The Twot Seat: Justice Mellencamp

Summary

Podcast Summary: "The Twot Seat: Justice Mellencamp"

Podcast Title: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode Title: The Twot Seat: Justice Mellencamp
Release Date: April 21, 2025
Host: Teddi Mellencamp
Guest: Justice Mellencamp (Teddi's sister)
Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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1. Introduction to Justice Mellencamp

The episode opens with Teddi Mellencamp introducing her sister, Justice Mellencamp, affectionately nicknamed "Bird Face in the hole" (01:02). Teddi shares anecdotes from their childhood, highlighting Justice's playful nickname origins and their close yet occasionally tumultuous relationship.

“Right?! Teddi and Tamra are Two Ts in a Pod. (Telling All).”
- Teddi Mellencamp [01:02]

2. Childhood Memories and Sibling Dynamics

Teddi and Justice delve into their shared childhood experiences, emphasizing the age difference of four years and how it influenced their interactions. Teddi recounts playful rivalries, such as competing over nicknames and petty disputes like the infamous "Don’t Touch Me" armrest game during flights.

“We played a game and it's called don't touch Me.”
- Teddi Mellencamp [11:18]

Justice adds her perspective, recalling moments when she tried to be close to Teddi despite feeling overshadowed.

“I was desperate just to like be a part of whatever you were doing.”
- Justice Mellencamp [07:07]

3. Navigating Parental Divorce and Travel

The sisters discuss the impact of their parents' divorce on their upbringing, particularly the logistics of traveling between states every other weekend. They share humorous yet poignant stories about being left as unaccompanied minors at airports, highlighting Teddi's sometimes careless behavior and Justice's resilience.

“When you'd go ahead and travel together or... Just make sure you always have a greeter. Don't send your kids alone.”
- Justice Mellencamp [11:56]

Teddi recalls the stress of managing travel with siblings, including an incident where she accidentally left Justice in the bathroom at Charlotte airport.

“The flight attendant who was supposed to be greeting us was talkt out of greediness.”
- Teddi Mellencamp [10:16]

4. Evolving Relationship into Adulthood

Transitioning into adult lives, Teddi and Justice reflect on how their relationship has matured. They acknowledge the shift from childlike dependence to mutual support in parenting and personal challenges.

“Now we're adults, we have so much more in common. We're both moms, we're both working...”
- Justice Mellencamp [15:04]

Teddi emphasizes their strengthened bond, noting how they've become best friends despite past conflicts.

“But she is my best friend. I love her to death.”
- Teddi Mellencamp [03:06]

5. Overcoming Health Challenges

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing Justice's melanoma diagnosis and Teddi's battle with cancer. They candidly talk about the emotional and physical toll of these health scares, the support they've provided each other, and the impact on their family dynamics.

“But some of the most fun and hilarious conversations we've all been able to have post this diagnosis.”
- Teddi Mellencamp [27:57]

Justice shares the moment she realized Teddi's condition had worsened, highlighting the gravity of the situation and the family’s response.

“Unfortunately, it was none of that. And, yeah, I mean, it was tough.”
- Justice Mellencamp [26:19]

Teddi reflects on her time in the hospital, expressing gratitude for the unwavering support from Justice and other family members.

“Seeing my family come to that hell every day really meant a lot to me.”
- Teddi Mellencamp [27:32]

6. Parenting Styles and Family Life

The sisters compare their approaches to parenting, illustrating their distinct personalities and philosophies. Teddi describes herself as "Type A," focusing on structure and organization, while Justice adopts a more laid-back, loving approach, often embracing chaos without realizing it.

“Justice is more of a free loving, like, sure you want to do cookies? We'll do it right here, last minute.”
- Teddi Mellencamp [18:38]

Justice acknowledges the challenges of parenting different children, emphasizing the need to adapt to each child’s unique needs.

“With each kid, you kind of have to parent differently. And Woods is kind of a nightmare. He's the cutest nightmare I've ever seen.”
- Justice Mellencamp [19:17]

7. The Real Housewives Experience

Teddi opens up about her participation in "The Real Housewives," sharing Justice’s initial skepticism and eventual acceptance. They discuss the complexities of being in the public eye and how it affected their personal lives and sibling relationship.

“I have been watching 'Beverly Hills' forever. It was kind of my mindless fun.”
- Justice Mellencamp [32:42]

Justice candidly criticizes the superficial aspects of the show, while also acknowledging the entertaining dynamic it brings.

“But you went on it and ruin it. Cause now I'm, like, fully invested.”
- Justice Mellencamp [33:10]

Teddi shares humorous behind-the-scenes moments from filming, including mishaps with food and interactions with other cast members.

“You did drop a little bit of your pizza. It was delicious.”
- Teddi Mellencamp [34:26]

8. Strengthening Bonds Through Challenges

Throughout the episode, Teddi and Justice emphasize how facing adversities, such as health issues and public scrutiny, has fortified their sisterly bond. They discuss becoming more vulnerable and open with each other, recognizing the importance of their support system.

“I've realized I don't care if I'm having a hard moment. I'm gonna call my sister and cry to her.”
- Teddi Mellencamp [31:50]

Justice reflects on how witnessing Teddi's struggles has made her more proactive about her own health and well-being.

“After your diagnosis with the melanoma on your back, I started going every year for my checks and have had two biopsies. Thank God they've been clear.”
- Justice Mellencamp [30:01]

9. Future Aspirations and Family Plans

Looking ahead, the sisters express a desire to spend more quality time together without the responsibilities of parenthood weighing them down. They discuss potential trips and activities that would allow them to reconnect and strengthen their relationship further.

“We've never... This is the first time since we've had kids where we've had any kind of, like, alone time. I'd love to go on a trip with Justice.”
- Teddi Mellencamp [43:04]

10. Reflections on Family and Privacy

Teddi and Justice touch upon their family's dynamics, particularly their father's influence and their mother's role as a single parent. They comment on maintaining privacy amidst their father's celebrity status and how it has shaped their upbringing.

“Our mom did a really good job on just making sure we had the upbringing we would have if we didn't have a famous dad.”
- Justice Mellencamp [40:05]

They share anecdotes about their father's song and the humorous realization of having a sibling misgendered at birth.

“He would admit the best thing that came out of that song was my name.”
- Justice Mellencamp [42:32]

11. Conclusion and Closing Remarks

As the episode wraps up, Teddi humorously navigates through final topics, including their current social media presence and teasing future interactions. The sisters reaffirm their bond, despite past disagreements, and express gratitude for their shared experiences.

“She is private, so it's going to be hard to find much on Justice, but you could follow her at justicemellencamp.”
- Teddi Mellencamp [46:07]

“Love you.”
- Justice Mellencamp [46:48]

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Key Takeaways:

• Sibling Bonding: Despite age differences and childhood rivalries, Teddi and Justice have cultivated a strong adult relationship built on mutual support and understanding.

• Overcoming Adversity: Both sisters have faced significant health challenges, which have tested and ultimately strengthened their familial bonds.

• Parenting Styles: Their distinct approaches to parenting highlight the balance between structure and free-spiritedness within their family.

• Public vs. Private Life: Teddi's involvement in "The Real Housewives" contrasts with Justice's preference for privacy, showcasing different coping mechanisms in the public eye.

• Future Aspirations: The sisters look forward to creating more shared memories and deepening their relationship outside of familial and public obligations.

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Notable Quotes:

• “But some of the most fun and hilarious conversations we've all been able to have post this diagnosis.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp [27:57]

• “I think you have let yourself be a little more, like, vulnerable about things.”
  — Justice Mellencamp [31:05]

• “How would you describe your relationship back then compared to now?”
  — Teddi Mellencamp [15:00]

These quotes encapsulate the essence of the episode, highlighting the evolution of Teddi and Justice's relationship through shared experiences and personal growth.

Transcript

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Two teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge Hi guys. Welcome to another episode of the Twat Seat. A very special guest today who never likes to do anything publicly. It is my very own little sister, Justice Mellencamp, who I like to call Bird Face in the hole. The reason she's been bfith since we were little is because you guys may take notice here. How granted I get to say this because she's the cuter, tinier, all of the ones, but like, look how her entire face would fit into that. It's like a little bird poking its head out of the hole and it's trying to eat. That's her bfit.

[Justice Mellencamp]

H. Thanks.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What do you call me?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Oh, I don't know. So many nicknames for you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So many nicknames. But justice and I are four years apart. We are full siblings. I know. You know, the last couple days have been no wig days. But of course I had to put a wig on today because one of our favorite songs to sing, you may have heard of it, it's from Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen. I am the cute one.

[Justice Mellencamp]

She's just my sister.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And we go back and forth on this and I knew if it was a bald day for me then I wouldn't be able to take either parts, which would have been difficult.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You don't?

[Justice Mellencamp]

No. I think you can totally rock the shaved head.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, thank you, bird. Birds being extreme Very, very nice to me. Cause we've been going through all the stuff. She's been helping, taking care of my kids. She's been here to help me because some days I am, you know, I'm pretty good. Until about 2:00, wouldn't we say? That's when I have the switch off.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, it's tiring. It's a lot going on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's tiring being you too.

[Justice Mellencamp]

It is. You've got way too much going on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But she is my best friend. I love her to death. But you may notice that our voices sound very similar.

[Justice Mellencamp]

I know. Remember when we would call dad, like before caller ID existed and cell phones and all the things, and be like, which kid is this? We'd just go, hey, hey, dad, which kid is this?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Which one? Which one is this?

[Justice Mellencamp]

He had no idea.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And we most of the time wouldn't tell him. And then he immediately would start talking shit about whatever one he thought we weren't. But most of the time he got it all.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, it'd start with, don't tell your sister. And I'm like, it's a good thing he doesn't. What daughter. This is because we're about to get a lot of information and that's his.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Favorite thing to do, is to call one of us at. We should try to call him. Is he on the plane yet?

[Justice Mellencamp]

He's flying already. Yeah, his last text went green, so I know he's zero service.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, if it was green for any other reason than being on a jet, it would really be disturbing. Like green texts really upset me.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, then I get all nervous that I'm like, what happened? What happened to the person? Why is it green if it's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You don't have any friends that are green?

[Justice Mellencamp]

No, I have no Android friends. Well, only our brother, Spec.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, I know. That's upsetting too. Hud had it for a while. But then Hud is the one that taught me about the.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Oh, the privacy screen.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The privacy screen. HUD got himself all fancy and got himself an iPhone and a privacy screen and now he thinks he's big time. And he was on a television show.

[Justice Mellencamp]

I know. Well, HUD made fun of me. Cause I also have a privacy screen. But then I text, I voice text and let my Siri type everything out. And he was like, you've got to be kidding me. You think you're private, but I can hear everything. You just said your text.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, this is my favorite thing about justice. So recently it was really hard for me to see text messages So I told anybody, anybody who wants to talk to me, voice note me. So the first voice note I get from Justice, I can already imagine her like this. She's like, hi Teddy comma, it's your sister justice, period. Just wanted to tell you I love you, exclamation point.

[Justice Mellencamp]

I'm like, are you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This isn't.

[Justice Mellencamp]

That's because I normally have Siri type stuff out. The auto notes were very new to me until this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But now that I've told everybody this, now no one can stop. Everybody wants to send audio notes. They're the best. And if you don't do it, ruin your friends lives by adding it. Because you know what? Nothing anybody wants to hear more than 1 minute and 55 seconds of an auto. No, no. It's for them to have to take notes on listen. Especially if you work with them.

[Justice Mellencamp]

It's not fun. Half the time I just click it so I can just see it typed out. I don't even listen.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I have typos. That way it doesn't understand what I'm saying.

[Justice Mellencamp]

That's okay, I can get it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No you can't. Sometimes I see and it doesn't even know my name. Between it not even knowing my name and face app not even working anymore when I don't have a wig on and giving me the option of adding a beard or Hud that you. Hud. Hud, what are you doing? So we used some listener questions. What were you like as kids growing up together?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, I mean I was obsessed with you. I wanted to do everything with you, but you were way too cool to hang out and. Yeah, I don't know. I think here's the thing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She likes to say that I was like maybe not the nicest to her, but she would do crazy ass shit like I would my room. I had a room that was looked like a horse doll.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Do we have to tell this story?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes, we do. Cause it's my favorite room.

[Justice Mellencamp]

I know, it's so psychotic.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This is like the. This is the type of psychosis so when she lives in her mind of I was always the butler.

[Justice Mellencamp]

But wait, can we preface it with that? You would have friends over and you'd be like, you can sit in my room but you cannot talk and you have to sit on the floor over there. And I would do it. I was so desperate just to like be a part of whatever you were doing. I would do it. So that was.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, anyway, then I got over doing that. So I decided because then she started telling people what I was doing. In this room. But anyways, my room was a stall door, so it was, like, had planks. And so I tell Justice. I'm like, bird, I think maybe I had my boyfriend over at the time. His name was Jamie. Do you remember?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So I had Jamie over. And so the rule was, like, I could keep the bottom thing locked, but I'd have to leave one of the parts undone. But I'm like, don't come in because, you know, he's here. And we're probably gonna wanna make out or whatever it may be. I give her enough warning, but what do I get? She starts banging on the door. She's this big, by the way. This. Maybe five years old, by the way right now. Or six. Like, she. Her feet aren't even touching the ground in the podcast room because she's. She says she's 5 foot, but she's 1 million percent 4. 11. Am I lying?

[Justice Mellencamp]

I don't know. We could get a tape measure out, figure it out when we're done.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You could be the judge of this. When you see us stand next to each other. Cruz is as tall as Bird face right now. But anyways, I'm just trying to mind my own business, make out with Jamie, and I see these little beady eyes poking through, and I'm like, justice, no. And so then I lock the top. I lock the entire door, and I use this as my excuse on why everything can be locked. Justice.

[Justice Mellencamp]

It's my fault.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Justice goes and gets a. What is it called?

[Justice Mellencamp]

A crowbar.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

A crowbar. And starts breaking down my door like she thinks she's gonna be able to.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, there was a lot leading into it. A lot of not nice words were being spoken through the cracks of the door from you to me. You, like, triggered me. I went nuts.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She went nuts. So she broke through the door. Me and Jamie have. Yes, you do. So then me and Jamie have to jump off my little balcony, go running, and she keeps running after me.

[Justice Mellencamp]

This is exaggerated. Never.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This is not exaggerated.

[Justice Mellencamp]

This is the fact I never got through the door.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, you got through figuring out a way you crawled over the outside where the stairs were and got into the. Somehow she got into the room.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Let's move on. Let's move on from the story. We don't need to go any further.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay. So what other things would you like to talk about? Us growing up? If you're gonna talk about me leaving you as an unaccompanied minor, yeah, I can do that.

[Justice Mellencamp]

That's a good one. Yeah. So when we'd have to travel every other weekend to Indiana.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Our parents got divorced when we were.

[Justice Mellencamp]

I was four.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know how old I was. I was eight. Obviously four years older.

[Justice Mellencamp]

So at some point they thought they'd trust us to fly with a flight attendant greeter, I guess you'd call them and. Cause my mom would have to do the trip with us. And that got old for her. So finally we got to the age where they're like, you guys can just go on your own. It's fine, we'll get a date. 4 and 8 seems right for two kids. I think we were a little older at this point, but it was every other weekend. We were so over it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We didn't want to go because at this point, I mean.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, we didn't want to go because we, like, had friends and things going on on the weekends.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And sometimes dad would come to Hilton Head, so he'd get really excited to.

[Justice Mellencamp]

So we could just hang at our own house. Yeah, well, we would always do Hilton Head to Charlotte, Charlotte to Indianapolis, and Teddi would be less than nice on the travel days. And I would have to just like hold it together. No crying in public. Until the one time she left me in the bathroom at the Charlotte airport and walked to the gate. And the flight attendant who was like supposed to be greeting us was talked out of greediness. Cause at this point, Teddy, you were probably like 14, okay? Yeah, like you were. Well, like you were old enough to know better to do this to your 10 year old sister.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I probably did it on purpose. She probably pissed me off.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, luckily it was the same gate every single time, flying back and forth, so I knew exactly where to go. But after that, the flight attendants were back on full schedule. We had one every single weekend.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I may have left her, but if you have a kid that's looking to play a fun game, this is our favorite game. Okay, Put your hand here.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, we'd have to share the armrest.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We'd have to share the armrest. But it'd be. We played a game and it's called don't touch Me.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, Teddi played the game. I just was living my life.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So what you do is you share an armrest and then if one person touches you, then you get to punch them.

[Justice Mellencamp]

So she would never touch her, but.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I would get dangerously close and then touch her and then. And then she'd cry. So you know what? This is a tip to most. If you live in a different state than your significant other, your spouse, you may want to think about living in the same state because traveling together or.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Just make sure you always have a greeter. Don't send your kids alone.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I would have already been there. We were in our.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Oh, that's true.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We were in our own seats now playing Don't Touch Me.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah, we weren't playing. You were playing. It's all just because I wanted to be your best friend. I mean.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, you're my best friend now. And we're about to go chats, so we'll get back into the questions that you guys asked. But since we were younger, we always wanted this little knife tattoo. And justice, how mad were you when I went and got it by myself?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, I mean, that was kind of messed up. We've been talking about it for three years. Or you've been talking about it for three years.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Can you sing the song as I pat it?

[Justice Mellencamp]

So, no, I want you to sing it. It makes more sense. But for, like, three or four family get togethers, Teddi has tried desperately to get a tattoo artist to come will come to the house. Like, these people are like, no, you're insane. Like, we're not.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because also, you guys said it had to be a thin.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Oh, I wanted a single needle tattoo. Correct. But, yeah, we haven't been successful. And then what is. What does she do? She goes and gets it just by herself.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And so it's. I think I like this little knife. And it's really so, like, I've already done it to justice, and she hasn't even realized it, but, like, it's. When somebody's pissing me off, I just tap it. Tap it. Like, this is your little quiet minor before we play. Don't touch me.

[Justice Mellencamp]

You cut off.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But we're gonna go get one after this pod today. But justice says she doesn't want to get it in that spot. Where else are you gonna be able to tap it that people are gonna see? If you try to get this on your leg or something, you're gonna not like.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, I mean, I was kind of just thinking, like, here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Instead of a teardrop, I'll just do this little knife right here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Just a little knife.

[Unknown]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

How would you describe your relationship back then compared to now?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, I mean, obviously now we're adults, we have so much more in common. I mean, the four year age difference when you're a child is huge. Right? Like, you were able to drive and do all these things and, you know, I was like, still playing with Barbies. So I feel like now we, you know, we're both moms, we're both working, we. We have a lot more in common and a lot more that we can talk about as far as, like, getting advice from each other. Right. Like, when we were kids, that wasn't really.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I mean, we can say this as much as we weren't close. Like, I still slept in Justice's room every night.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah, I mean, and like, we had this one rule. She just fakes not to like me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I just didn't like her in front of other people. But we had this one rule. My. We were allowed to watch TV going to bed, which guys don't judge. This was the 80s.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, it was the 90s.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But yeah, remember old school TVs where you'd see the little things line up. It would go to, like the end of the volume.

[Justice Mellencamp]

The word volume was on the screen, and then there was little dashes underneath, like how loud it could be.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So our rule was at nighttime, it could not be above the E. And we lived downstairs and my mom lived upstairs. And so I would go and stay in Jay's room. She had two beds. You know how I had a horse room? She had a room that had all of gymnastics equipment. So there was like a trampoline. And what are those things you walked on?

[Justice Mellencamp]

A balance beam.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

A balance beam beam. It was all these different colors, but either way we'd like, go to bed at whatever, 9:00. And then we'd hear our mom go.

[Justice Mellencamp]

It'S above the E. She always knew. Like, how did she know? I have no idea. Because it was sometimes above the E. But sometimes it wasn't. And she'd still yell. And we're like, what in the world?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But we watched this. And also our VHS machine was broken. So we watched the same movie for years.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, that was later when the tv, when it got. Yes, we watched the same movie for probably three years in a row. Again, still sleeping in my bed.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The movie was.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, that was when we were teenagers. Yeah, you've got mail, actually. I mean, but we typically would watch it through the credits in the first scene and then both be sound asleep. But we knew every word.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But we'd also have to wait until it got to the very end so it would rewind itself so we could watch it the next time.

[Justice Mellencamp]

If you woke up in the middle of the night and turned the TV off, you were screwed because you couldn't watch it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ruined. Then you were just stuck because then you could just had to live on repeat. You've got mail still to this day. If we don't watch it this afternoon, I'm gonna be upset about it. Yeah. Okay. Were we ever jealous of each other or our brothers?

[Justice Mellencamp]

No, I don't think so.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I don't. We like to all claim that we're the favorite, but, I mean, it's clear I am.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, now. I mean, you had to go and do all this crazy shit. Favorite. But it was me for a really long time.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know what? It's always been me. But we'll go. We'll let you have it. Sometimes we think it's one of our brothers, and then we get all revved up. But if we say one thing about our brothers, we get a lashing.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah, we're not allowed to talk about.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Them, but we are allowed to talk about each other. Which may mean we are not the favorites.

[Justice Mellencamp]

No, I mean, we're clearly the favorites.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Just.

[Justice Mellencamp]

You're in the lead right now. It's okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, it's. Cause I got some things going on.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, just wait till you beat it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How do you think we're different as moms?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, I'll let you start because I would love to hear your opinion on this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, it's a little bit different because I'm very, like, type A and particular. So is J. But she pretends she's one of the worst kind where she pretends she's not, but she is. But, like, my kids are pretty, like, on it, you know, where justice is more of, like a free loving, like, sure you want to do cookies? We'll do it right here, last minute. And so she's like, so kind and so loving, but, like, chaos could be accruing, and she doesn't even realize it. Like, think about, like, Thanksgiving dinner with Woods.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Listen, woods is chaos. That's different, I think, also because I had Trent when I was 20, and I think I just kind of let more things go. I was so uptight on trying to keep him, this, like, perfect child and reprimanding him for everything. Well, there's no such thing as perfect. And every kid's different. And I think with each kid, you kind of have to parent differently. And woods is kind of a nightmare. He's the cutest nightmare I've ever seen. But, yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So he has a ponytail. Guys, he's three.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Man bun.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Man bun.

[Justice Mellencamp]

He calls everybody's hair a man bun. Why are you wearing your man bun? I'm like, well, because I've wanted it up today. Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He is so cute.

[Justice Mellencamp]

He's the cutest thing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But he. Like, after three days of him, you're like, you deserve a special medal.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

For what you've done.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Definitely something.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But the. The next question is, what's the best advice we've given each other? I would say we're. We're different in certain ways. Like, when I'm upset, I just shut down and kind of disappear. And when justice is upset, she wants to do it the right way and, like, talk it through.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, I definitely don't let anything not get talked about. Like, if it's bothering me, I kind of just say it and get it off my chest. And if it's, you know, not the nicest thing, I try to word it better, but I'm gonna go ahead and say it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But what we have learned is if there's certain topics that we know we don't agree on, we're like, we're not going to talk about these things.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, this is not good for us. This doesn't. You know, we'd rather enjoy the fun that we do have, which. We laugh a lot. We can get emotional a lot. But, like, it's kind of better for us to know our topics that we stay away from.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, I mean, the one time that I kind of, like, was, I guess, a little mean to you. I was not feeling well. I had no idea. You cried for, like, a year. She secretly went off, and I forgot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What was I mad at you about? That's gonna sound crazy.

[Justice Mellencamp]

It is so crazy. But you told the crowbar story. I mean, so we were at Thanksgiving at our grandfather's, who at the time was, like, 92 I'm so sick. It's like, Covid already happened. You'd think that they'd be like, no, justice, don't come. Like, you need to stay home. You're sick. Nope. Dad forced us to go. I'm literally coughing on Everybody.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We have 640. There's actually 642 melon camps there. There's definitely not enough food for all of us.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah, I shouldn't have gone. I was really sick. Anyway, we were there, and Teddy could tell I wasn't feeling well. And she's trying to be helpful, but Teddy also likes to kind of, you know, take charge, even if you don't ask her to, which is fine. Yeah, Sometimes we need it. But I am, like, sitting on the couch, so ready to go, but I'm not gonna ruin anyone's good time. And she goes and tells one of our brothers, like, let justice take your car and drive home. Well, driving home was, like, an hour and a half. I did not want to do that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But she also has a husband there that could have driven her home. Yeah, but there was a good. There was a good rationale, because the brothers were already saying, no, we're gonna stay later, and we're gonna do whatever. And I said, well, then give one of the cars to justice so her and Michael and the kids can drive home. She's clearly very ill.

[Justice Mellencamp]

So she's saying all this, and I'm like, no, no. Like, the kids are having fun with their cousins. They never see, like, we'll stay. And she's like, justice, just take the car and go. And I was like, can you please stop bossing me around? And she clammed up. And I thought, okay, well, conversation's over. And we all stayed till the very end. And little did I know, like, two years later, she admits that she went off to the bathroom and cried. And I'm like, how is it?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was so mean. Cause I was trying to be helpful. I'd gotten it all organized in front of everyone. She's like, quit trying to control everything. And I was like, but then, don't worry. I didn't speak for the rest of Christmas. So I made a Christmas miracle was that I was silent.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, it was Thanksgiving, but.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thanks.

[Justice Mellencamp]

I was so sick, I didn't even notice you weren't speaking. And it took two years for you to finally tell me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And by the way, I didn't tell you. Dad told you.

[Justice Mellencamp]

No, you did, because we were on the phone.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I told dad, and dad goes, you either tell her, or I'm gonna Tell her.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, that I don't know about all that, but you told me first, and then I told dad, and he was like, what? You made her cry? I'm like, yeah. I didn't even know it was like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's why I didn't stay up late that last night we were there. I was pissed.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, you should have just said something like, I do when I'm pissed, and then you just get over it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's not what I was saying.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Hold grudges.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was just gonna hold a grudge until you realized how you wronged me.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, this next one is Teddi's diagnosis.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Oh, gosh.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ugh. This should be good for us. What went through your head when? I mean, I don't even know who told you. It says, when Teddi told you about her diagnosis, I was not in a position to be telling anybody.

[Justice Mellencamp]

You didn't tell me, so. Well, I mean, obviously, for two years prior, you had the surgeries, and you're. You know, we're battling it for a.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

While, but this is when the melanoma was on my back.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah. When it was just on your back. So, I mean, that was obviously scary. And, you know, we tried our best to never think it would go to where it did and kind of just pushed it to the back, you know, like, just, okay. She's going every three months, like, she's taking care of herself. This is great. We had a couple trips in between that. We had so much fun together. You felt good. I was like, okay, she's beat this. This is done. But I Mean, when I found out that it had metastasized, I was, well, leaving Nightmare Baby's swim lesson, and he had finally turned a corner and listened to his swim instructors. I'm like, yes, this is great.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What he did.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, for a minute, yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He knew you needed a little bit of happiness.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, no, he's got four. Yeah. So we're walking out, and dad calls. And typically, if you don't answer Dad's call, he keeps calling, and then he.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Writes, call me all in. Catch.

[Justice Mellencamp]

So that happened like, three times. Because I'm trying to get the kids to in the car and the call me right now. I called. I'm like, dad, I'm sorry. I'm trying to, like, get the kids in the car. What's up? And he's like, drop everything. And I'm like, oh, God, he's so dramatic with everything. Well, he had a reason this time, obviously, and he told me. So. Of course, what I normally do is try to do. Best case scenario. I'm like, no, no, there's no way. Like, it's gotta be this. It's she. You know, maybe she fell and just. Maybe it's a concussion. She's had a lot of concussions when she was riding when she was younger. Like, maybe this is what it is. And unfortunately, it was none of that. And, yeah, I mean, it was tough. We all got on a plane the next day while you were in surgery. Unfortunately, my flight got canceled because flying out of Hilton Head is always questionable. So I came a day after that and just kind of came to be by your side, you know?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, they were all there. Unfortunately, I don't remember any of them being there.

[Justice Mellencamp]

No, I'm glad you don't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I can say this is gonna sound so morbid, but, like, some of the most fun and hilarious conversations we've all been, including my friends, my family, everybody that we've been able to have post this diagnosis. And my surgeries has been some of the behavior in the hospital.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Teddi was just being her true, authentic self that she doesn't let anyone normally see. Cause it was just all out there.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh. What medication was it that made.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, you were on steroids.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, steroids. But there was another one that they give you that's a painkiller.

[Justice Mellencamp]

I don't even know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So there's zero memory.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, thank God it is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But, like, nice little things that would happen would be when justice told me she was leaving or. No, what did I do?

[Justice Mellencamp]

So right after your surgery, you were sleeping when we were in the room.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Which, in my mind, I didn't sleep any of the 16 days I was.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Up 24, seven while you were sleeping, which, you know, you were so peaceful. And we were talking about how beautiful you looked, and she did. I mean, you did. You looked beautiful. I mean, your skin color was perfect, everything. And I'm like, how does she look this great after brain surgery? Shaved head. Like, I look, like, literally been dragged through the mud after traveling 19 hours to get here with all my delays and canceled flights. But anyway, I'm like, she looks amazing. And so I'm talking about her to whoever else was in the room.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's Kyle, Tamra, Jen. Jen, Marcella. Like, all my best friends out here.

[Justice Mellencamp]

So we're all raving about how great she looks, and she opens her eyes, and I'm like, hi. Hi. Like, it's the first time she's seen me. I'm like, how are you? I love you so much. Can you see me? And she goes, unfortunately. And I'm like, well, there she is. And, like, you could tell everybody in the room was like, yeah, there she is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Pretty much went downhill from there.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Oh, I don't know. It added some comic relief in a really, really shitty situation.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, Like, I. As much as things are really hard, like, seeing my family come to that hell every day really meant a lot to me. But it's. We had some highs and lows. Like, there's definite moments that I'm so grateful that, like, some of my friends caught on video and we get to watch. Like, we still talk about it. The next question is, did it make you feel differently about your own health, hearing about the stuff with me?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, for sure. I mean, everyone just kind of goes through life living and doing their own thing, and you end up putting a lot on the back burner, your health being one of them. But certainly after your diagnosis with the melanoma on your back, I started going every year for my checks and have had two biopsies. Thank God they've been clear. But I never in a million years would have thought that was something I needed to start doing or even think about. But, I mean, we were beach babies. I had a CAT scan, so I just. Yeah, well, you know, it just. It. It brings a lot. You've brought a lot awareness also. So many people, including, you know, my husband, for instance, we were just talking about it before I flew out here, like, that melanoma is not just skin cancer that it can spread. You need to be on top of. On top of it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's very surprising to me that I never had gotten a PET scan after having 16.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, yeah, it's insane.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's insane. And I had a lot of anger towards that. But how do you think that this has changed our relationship?

[Justice Mellencamp]

I think you have let yourself be a little more, like, vulnerable about things, you know?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Justice Mellencamp]

You know, you've always tried to be the strong sister who, like we said earlier, like, if I was mad, you knew I was mad. You know, like, it just. I think you have let yourself kind of express a little bit more with me, at least.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I think it's. You know, I'm not. If you're not in my face, then I'm not the world's best communicator. Like, I've really worked harder on it with, like, my kids and my family. And, like, when I say family, I mean the people that live in this home, but the people that aren't as geographically close. I keep everybody at a little bit of a distance because I don't want to trouble them.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, you're not troubling people.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know, but now it's kind of. I've realized I don't care if I'm having a hard moment. I'm gonna call my sister and cry to her. Because you know what? Even yesterday, I told her something, and I wasn't expecting the sister reaction. I was expecting just like, oh, that's all right. And her face, she was like, I'm gonna have that conversation with this person. You know, like, she was pissed to.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Stick up for you. Yeah, I mean, I've always been that way. But you maybe not have shared your feelings about something happening with me to the point where I would be like, well, let me try to handle this situation.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, now we get to change this sad topic and go to an even more depressing topic, which is Teddy on Housewives. What did you honestly think when you found out I was gonna be.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, first you called and asked for everyone's advice that we knew you weren't going to listen to. I mean, that was a dead giveaway. Like, she's calling for this advice, but she's already made up her mind. Well, I have to say, I've watched Beverly Hills, like, forever. It was kind of my mindless fun. Turn it on. I don't know these women. Like, this is something I can watch, and it's entertaining, and I like it. And then you went on it, and I was like, that girl's a bitch. I hate her. Like, I was fully invested.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You thought I was a bitch? From the beginning.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Not you. I'm talking about, like, when someone would be mean to you, like, these women.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't. That's such jazz.

[Justice Mellencamp]

No, Nope. Not gonna do that. But, like, watching the show prior to you being on it, I didn't care if they were mean to each other. That's what made the show. And then you go on it and ruin it. Cause now I'm, like, fully invested.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I have a question. Yesterday, you met both Tamara and Erica.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did you feel like they were different than when you saw them on the show?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, I think I met Tamara in the hospital. I think Tamara's very. Well, No, I don't. I don't know. I think they're both very nice. I thought that I. Well, let's be honest. You and Erica did not get along your first season.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Right.

[Justice Mellencamp]

And I kind of disliked Yalls relationship then. But she was so lovely yesterday. So nice. You guys have such a great relationship now. But also, like, because of you being on the show, I learned it is a show no one wants to see. You guys all, like, getting along and, like, having tea together. Like, I get it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I hated having tea. Hated it. But, yeah, I mean, and Tamara's pretty effortless.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Like, she comes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She doesn't care. Like, we all sat out on the floor, the carpet, eating pizza. Eating pizza. I can still see the two grease stains, which I'm trying to get over.

[Justice Mellencamp]

But, yeah, you did drop a little bit of your pizza. That was you, too. Not.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. It dripped. Cause I squeezed it in half.

[Justice Mellencamp]

That pizza was huge.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was delicious.

[Justice Mellencamp]

It was good.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What was your favorite part of me being a wine?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, obviously in Provence, when you were like, just. I'm sorry. Very, very overserved at the winery.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And it was hilarious when Kyle's not letting me eat.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Eat your chip. And then you wouldn't go to bed. You would not go to bed. I mean, I was, like, howling, dying, laughing. And I kind of knew it was coming. Cause I don't know if you remember, you called me that morning.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah. I called everyone.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Cause I was, like, so anxious.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I may have ruined our lives. I don't know what I said about anybody.

[Justice Mellencamp]

You. I was driving to work. Cause of the time difference. I was like, you know, starting my day. And maybe it wasn't morning for you. Maybe it was night. I don't even know. But you were panicked. You're like, I really hope I didn't do anything to embarrass the family. I'm like, well, I hope you did, because I've Been waiting for this since you started the show. But, no, I think I really loved, like, seeing the family on there and your kids and, you know, I think it was good that you obviously went on this show, but by the time you were leaving, I think all leaving, you're exiting, whatever you want to call.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It, by the time of your exit that you were invited to exit when.

[Justice Mellencamp]

You weren't invited back, I think we all, as a family, knew it was time. We had seen you go through some tough stuff. You know, personally, that wasn't actually being shown, and I just thought it was. It was good. Like, you were on the show. You did your best when you were pregnant, which was. I know. Not fun. Yeah. Brutal. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Now they want to know about your private life.

[Justice Mellencamp]

My private life.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I love that she checks the notes to see if I'm making it up for people who don't know. Why did you choose not to be in the public eye like me and Hudson?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Because I'm very private in a sense where, like, I'll be open and share my opinion. And if, you know, you get to know me, you know all about me. But I have had the same group of girlfriends, literally, since I was a child. I married a guy that I've known since I was four.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I've been boyfriend girlfriend since kindergarten.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah. So I just. I keep my circle very tight and very close. Like any big group situations, I'm like, nah, I'm good. I think I'm gonna pass on that. It's just I. When you wanted me to do that one interview. Zoom interview. And then I bailed last minute.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah. There was a show that they wanted.

[Justice Mellencamp]

The sisters or something.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, there was, like, a sister show they wanted us to do. And I really wanted. I always call her Slate, by the way. So if you see me pausing. Cause I don't know why they remind me of each other, but I called Bird and I'm like, would you want to do it? And she's like, yep, sure, yeah, I'll do it. And then.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, no. I said, no, I don't want to be on the show, but I will do this for you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then the day of, she's like, I'm canceling. And I'm like, bitch.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah. Well, I mean, I had some stuff going at home, but I felt like I was going to throw up the whole day. I was like, there is no way. This is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did you feel like you were going to throw up before doing this pod or you knew? I'm just such an effortless energy.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, it Helped watch it helped watching you guys do it yesterday and seeing kind of like, how it would go down. But when you initially asked me, Michael could see my face when you asked, and he was like, what? And she was like, she wants me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

To do the pod.

[Justice Mellencamp]

He's like, well, did you say no? And I was like, I can't say no. I'm gonna do it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I said, can you give Michael a little shout out?

[Justice Mellencamp]

My husband?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But also, can we talk about what the things are that Michael's obsessed with really quick, just so they can get a shout out?

[Justice Mellencamp]

No, we cannot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hold on. What are they called? Please tell me.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Cryptocurrency.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Crypto.

[Justice Mellencamp]

We can't, because it's actually not allowed to be spoken in my house. Like, I'm like, we are not talking about.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hold on. But what is the little thing? What? He has his own name.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Oh, no. He got rid of it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, no, don't.

[Justice Mellencamp]

He has. Don't even.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He had his own Instagram, guys. So if you're into cryptocurrencies.

[Justice Mellencamp]

He got rid of it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hold on. But what was the name?

[Justice Mellencamp]

I don't even know. I never followed it. I don't know. I never followed I.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Can guys, find Michael Moore?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Oh, no, he can't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Cryptocurrency.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Guys, it's gone. Don't even waste your time. Even if you were, like, entertaining the idea of trying to find it, you weren't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't even know what it is, but some days we would sit there, and I'd be, like, an hour and a half in, and finally I was like, I gotta give up on this, buddy.

[Justice Mellencamp]

No, I gave up on it pretty early. But, yeah, so he knew by my face that I was like, oh, God. Like, okay, go talk about myself.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, do you feel so. A lot of people and Erica even said something yesterday about how we had a different life growing up because of our dad. And nobody ever believes me when I'm like, we didn't realize it. We really didn't real. I didn't realize it till I moved to la.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, I mean, it's not that we didn't realize it. I think our mom did a really good job on just making sure we had the upbringing we would have if we didn't have a famous dad. You know, like, she gave us a great, you know, life at the beach and did all the things that she could do as a single mom. And, I mean, we definitely had some really cool experiences. Me more than you, I feel like. Cause you were riding all the time Yeah, I didn't have sport that I was like, so listen, I just got beaten Horse with Cruz yesterday. I am not an athlete.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But she's talking about Horse. The basketball.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Basketball. Yeah. I mean, I was at. I was done for. Like, it was awful. But you were gone a lot where. I was kind of like, you're with dad this week. You're gonna go ahead and travel with him. So, I mean, we definitely got some really cool experiences. Yeah, I. I went on tour with dad for a whole summer. Like, there was things that were very different than your quote, traditional upbringing. But I think mom, for the most part, because we were in Hilton Head and dad lived in Indiana, like, there was no, like, glamorous stuff, like, people would assume.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I would say the most truly is, like, when somebody's grandparents would come to one of our, like, games or something, and they'd be like, hey, is that Johnny Cougar?

[Justice Mellencamp]

No. I mean, yeah. I mean, there was just. Hilton Head was like a very, very.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, girls. Girls were into the. The older girls were into Cougs.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, yeah, but I think people, like, respected the privacy of it all, too. Like, they weren't going to.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

People like, we graduated from a class of how many?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, I had 32 in my class, and yours is probably even smaller.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, so, like, there we weren't filled around tons of new people. Like, it was always this same.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah, well. And also, there was no social media. There was no. You know. And my dad's so private that it wasn't like he was, like, broadcasting that we were his kids anywhere, you know?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. No, it's not like now where everything's in the press. I mean. Sorry, dad. Oh. Do you feel like you have ownership over your dad's song? Justice and independence?

[Justice Mellencamp]

I mean, I should, but. No, I don't. But I. The story behind that is the whole time they thought I was a boy and they had a name, which was hud, which is our brother, but they had no idea that I was a girl until I was born. And so no girl name. And I guess they were sitting in the hospital and they were getting ready to go home, and they're like, you gotta name this kid. Like, you can't just take it home. You have to name your child. And so dad and mom decided, because he had written that song that year, which is an awful song guys like, it is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Don't. That's gonna be everywhere now. It is not a good. So you just screwed yourself. Thank you so much for stepping into my world and People magazine. You better Be clocking that one as well. Right next to my mausoleum.

[Justice Mellencamp]

He would admit the best thing that came out of that song was my name. Let's say that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, also showing more that justice is the favorite. The Big Daddy cover was supposed to be justice, but she was throwing such a major fit that. That's why I am on the COVID holding my dad in, like, a dirty white T shirt.

[Justice Mellencamp]

You were not picture ready. I, on the other hand, was not having it that day.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, if there's one thing you and Teddi could do together, sort of like a bucket list, what is it?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Oh, I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I would say we've never. This is the first time since we've had kids where we've had any kind of, like, alone time. I'd love to go on a trip with Justice.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Without our 7,000 kids and husbands and.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah, that would be fun.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Brothers and dad. Cause we're always having to take care of everybody.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, yeah, I think it would be fun to take a trip, just you and I, somewhere.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh. What's it like having to live in Teddy's shadow?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Oh, well, I didn't know I was in your shadow, but.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I'm in Dad's. But you're smaller.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, I'm in everyone's shadow. When you're 5ft, you're 4.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

11. What?

[Justice Mellencamp]

I'm always in the shadow. I didn't know I was, though.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I didn't. I don't think so either. Because we watched you've Got Male so much. How did we feel when dad started dating me, Ryan?

[Justice Mellencamp]

I mean, obviously, it's sick.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We were sick.

[Justice Mellencamp]

We're like, what? How?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We had never been when I walked in.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, she was the nicest. I mean, right off the bat, you knew she was.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hold on. Not nicest ever. There's a new. There's a new nice. See? So we don't want to shade the old.

[Justice Mellencamp]

I. Well, I just meant compared to some other people dad dated.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes, there was one that was so.

[Justice Mellencamp]

We were really into her space, so we were pretty relieved that he. You know. But I think I told her right away. I was like, just so you know, Teddy and I know every line to youo've Got Mail. And she was so embarrassed that I said that. I was like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was like, no, play it cool. Don't be all uncool. And then I was like, we. Do you want to see us?

[Justice Mellencamp]

You want us?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We recite the whole thing. You got mail.

[Justice Mellencamp]

I mean, it was. It was a great movie.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Let's just Say, you know what? Sometimes. What's the little shop in the corner?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Shop around the corner.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Shop around the corner. It was one of the greats. No, we love her. And no, they, they.

[Justice Mellencamp]

You know, things happen, but.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Things happen. But we were ecstatic, and we still are. Like, she's such a good person in all of our lives. So, yeah, we. We appreciate Meg always and. Yeah, a lot. I love that you had to call out the other chick. Do you think people are gonna figure out who the other chick is?

[Justice Mellencamp]

I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She was a famous one. And she licked it.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah. Oh, that was tough.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That was tough.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Well, when she shooed me away to order room service once, I was like, we are. And I was pregnant, so my hormones were not in a good sitch. I was like, yeah, no more.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

When she got her. When we were at Craig's for dinner and we were about to walk out and, like, we were still going through the back, but she opened up her. What are those called?

[Justice Mellencamp]

Cosmetic mirror.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Her cosmetic mirror to touch up her lips. I was like, I am actually done.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yeah, it was a lot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But you know what? I guess a lot of people do the touch ups, but it totally gave me that.

[Justice Mellencamp]

It's just not Dad's type. And we knew it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We knew it. I was like, dad is wearing overalls.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Yes. And we're not same ones from yesterday.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But thank you guys for tuning in to another episode of Two T's in a Pod. She is private, so it's going to be hard to find much on justice, but you could follow her at justicemellencamp. And if she likes your jewelry or whatever it is that you're slanging, she may follow you back. If not, we'll let you know in a couple years when she comes back on the pod. Or I'll just video the crap out of her at Christmas or whatever holiday she's already trying to plan out. Fourth of July. I'm like, jay, I'm trying to get through this week. Calm your tits. But anyways, thanks for tuning in.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Thanks for watching.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Her Instagram name is justicemellencamp. She left the bird out, which I thought was rude.

[Justice Mellencamp]

Love you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Love.