Podcast Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: The Twot Seat: LUANN DE LESSEPS (RHONY)

Date: September 23, 2025

Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge welcome iconic Real Housewives of New York star Luann de Lesseps. The trio dishes on Real Housewives headlines, Luann’s cabaret career, love life updates, BravoCon plans, and play a rapid-fire game of "Trey Chic or Cheap." Listeners are treated to exclusive behind-the-scenes insights from across the Bravo universe, Luann’s take on the future of RHONY, and plenty of trademark Housewife shade, humor, and friendship.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Housewives Headlines and Speculation

(03:50–14:00)

• Miami Casting Rumors:
  Tamra and Teddi discuss a tip from Bravo and Cocktails suggesting Gertie, Julia, Adriana, and Kiki’s return to RHOM is uncertain. They debate the validity of the tip and speculate about who might not come back.

  • Tamra: “I've never heard that term before. Meaning their contracts haven't been finalized...” (04:12)
  • Teddy: “I mean, producers are still deciding whether to keep them, and it's likely that two of the four won't be back.” (04:36)

• Housewives Being Fired:
  Both share personal experiences with uncertainty around contract renewals—Tamra recalls being told she’d sit next to Andy at a reunion, only to be Let go soon after.

  • Tamra: “...No, we're gonna put you here. And then I got fired.” (16:39)

• Jen Shah & Return of Housewives with Legal Troubles:
  Discussion on Andy Cohen’s statement that he never wants to see Jen Shah return, and the moral consideration of bringing back Housewives with criminal histories.

  • Andy Cohen’s quote, via Teddy: “Jen Shaw, I never want to see again.” (07:54)
  • Tamra: "I was like, God, if they bring her back, like that's really sending a message." (09:10)

• Monica Potential Return:
  Monica’s possible comeback is debated, with the consensus being her return is more likely than Jen Shah’s.

2. Reunion Prep & BravoCon Anticipation

(15:17–21:31)

• Prepping for Reunions:
  Tamra shares her candid, often casual, approach—sometimes watching only select episodes and focusing on bringing “receipts.” She details her recent cosmetic treatments as part of prep.
  • Tamra: “I went to Megan the injector. I had PRF done under my eyes... I look like Skeletor.” (16:44)
• Seating Chart Speculation:
  The hosts playfully try to guess the OC reunion seating chart, discussing dynamics and seniority among the cast.
• BravoCon Attendance:
  Both confirm they’ll attend, with Tamra mentioning Vicki and other castmates are expected. Speculation arises about shifts in friendships and podcast appearances signaling drama.

3. Luann de Lesseps Joins the Pod

(25:40–51:32)

3.1. Cabaret Success & Upcoming Shows

• Eight Years of Cabaret:
  Luann discusses the evolution of her cabaret show and the creativity behind "Countess and Friends" and "Countess Cabaret."
  • Luann: “It started as Countess and Friends... It's always different. And so the shows I'm doing out in California are called Loonaverse shows...” (26:24)
• Special Loonaverse Performances:
  For venues that can’t accommodate a full band, Luann adapts her show to include iconic clips and behind-the-scenes stories.
• Upcoming Shows and BravoCon:
  • Performing at the Catalina Club in Hollywood (Oct 10–11) and House of Blues in Las Vegas during BravoCon (Nov 14).
    • Luann: “When I found out I got booked for Bravocon, I was like, I need to make some more money while I'm out that way, because, you know, they pay so well.” (29:49)

3.2. Housewives Legacy, “Weirdest” Filming Experience & Crossovers

• RHONY Legacy Rumors:
  Luann addresses rumors of a RHONY "Legacy" return—she’s heard talk, but nothing’s confirmed. She and the hosts agree that fans want OGs back, possibly blended with new cast.
  • Luann: “There's been talk around town, and so I'm not sure what's going on... I don't know, actually.” (31:23)
  • Tamra: “Maybe I would prefer you guys just to go back to Roni, you know, I mean, I think that's what the world wants.” (31:34)
• Behind the Scenes:
  Luann describes her favorite creative process—building storylines around her cabaret songs and picking the perfect dresses.
• Weirdest Experience:
  Without hesitation, Luann names Love Hotel as the wildest show she’s done.
  • Luann: “Love Hotel, for sure.” (32:33)

3.3. Dating Life & Personal Moments

• Current Relationship:
  Luann is dating a German man and also maintains a friendship with James from Love Hotel; she explains the difficulties of long-distance relationships.
  • Luann: “I've been dating him for quite a while now. It's been like a year and a half.” (41:35)
• Kids Meeting Partner:
  Her children have met “the German,” but she’s ambivalent about marrying again: “Why get married again? ...I am a hopeless romantic, so you never know.” (41:44)
• Celebrity Friendships:
  Tilda Swinton and Luann are close, with Swinton supporting her London show and even introducing her on stage.
  • Luann: “I could go to heaven, right?” (37:15)

3.4. Rapid-Fire Game: Trey Chic or Cheap?

(39:12–44:50)

Sample questions and Luann’s candid, on-brand answers:

• Hooking Up on the First Date:
  “Very chic. I was married for 17 years and we hooked up on the first date, so there you go.” (39:27)
• White Pants After Labor Day:
  “Cheap. Yeah, right. It's just... I know it's time for fall.” (39:41)
• Splitting the Bill on a Date:
  “Pretty cheap. Yeah. Amongst girlfriends, sure. But on a date, no, no, no.” (43:53)
• Dating Someone Your Kid’s Age:
  “Cheap for me because, you know, I wouldn't want to bring home a 28 year old.” (41:11)
• Role Playing in the Bedroom:
  “Say chic.” (44:07)
• Re-Gifting an Item:
  “I would go to cheap more than chic... It's really the thought that counts, right?” (42:20)

3.5. Bravo-verse Tea & Mount Rushmore Honors

• Andy’s ‘Mount Rushmore’ of Housewives:
  Luann describes the surreal honor of Andy Cohen naming her in his all-time Housewives lineup, recounting the backstory to her “be cool, don’t be all uncool” catchphrase.
  • Luann: “That 'be cool, don’t be like all uncool' moment is epic.” (34:18)
• Bravo Flirtations & Southern Charm:
  Luann finds Southern Hospitality’s Joe and Southern Charm’s Craig attractive, revealing her appreciation for Southern manners, but admits the distance makes some flirtations impractical.
  • On Captain Jason (Below Deck): “I met him at BravoCon two years ago... I saw him, like, hanging around with a lot of... and flirting with a lot of housewives.” (44:58)
• Cross-over Speculation:
  She’s open to doing Traders, comparing herself and Sonja to “Snoop Dogg and Martha Stewart” and would happily join more Ultimate Girls Trips or Below Deck.

3.6. Final Thoughts & What’s Next

• Upcoming Projects:
  • New music is in the works (“a classic”), touring in California, Hawaii, Toronto, and Las Vegas, and promoting her role in Murdoch Mysteries.
  • Luann: “I'm working on a new song... I'm going to be in California. I'm going to be in Hawaii. I'm going to be in Toronto.” (47:32)
• No Bravo Bad Blood:
  Luann says she’s not dreading seeing anyone at BravoCon; calls it a “big family reunion of sorts.”
  • Luann: “Not really. I mean, no. You know, I don't have any. Any problems with any of the girls that I know of now. You just never know until you get there.” (48:48)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Luann on last-minute gift-giving:
  “I did give a pair of earrings and a bracelet to a girlfriend... because I was in a hurry for a gift that I did not have. So I gave her something that I knew she would like…” (43:10)
• Luann on creative process:
  “The most fun is the creative part. I’ll pick a song and go—what story’s going to get me to that song?” (28:05)
• Luann on resilience:
  “I feel blessed that I've been able to do it this long because my show is always changing because my life changes...” (27:09)
• On “Be Cool” legacy:
  “He (Andy Cohen) said, ‘Lou, you have the line of the season’... and I was like, really?” (34:18)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Miami Housewives Casting Debate: 04:03–07:42
• Jen Shah Return Controversy: 07:54–10:43
• Reunion Prep & Cosmetic Talk: 15:17–17:42
• Luann de Lesseps Joins: 25:40
• Luann Discusses Cabaret Origin: 26:24–28:38
• BravoCon Plans & Las Vegas Show: 29:34–30:32
• RHONY Legacy & Future Shows: 31:17–31:53
• Love Hotel “Weirdest Show” Story: 32:33–32:39
• “Trey Chic or Cheap” Game: 39:12–44:50
• Bravo Flirtations (Captain Jason, Craig, Joe): 44:58–46:25
• New Music & Upcoming Projects: 47:32–48:26

Tone & Style Notes

The conversation is quick-witted, playful, and unfiltered, with Teddi and Tamra leaning into their insider Housewife knowledge. Luann brings classic New York humor, self-deprecating charm, and sprinkles of glam, smoothly pivoting from businesswoman to confidante. The trio shares mutual respect, serving both tea and heartfelt advice—making for a breezy, juicy listen for any Bravo devotee.