The Twot Seat: MARYSOL PATTON (RHOM)

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod: The Twot Seat – MARYSOL PATTON (RHOM)

Airdate: September 3, 2025
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge
Guest: Marysol Patton (The Real Housewives of Miami)

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Episode Overview

This episode welcomes Marysol Patton, Miami OG and fan-favorite from The Real Housewives of Miami, into the “Twot Seat.” Teddi, Tamra, and Marysol swap stories from the Bravo universe, rehash recent RHOM drama, discuss cast dynamics, tease the infamous reunion, and serve up plenty of candid opinions, behind-the-scenes revelations, and humorous moments. The vibe: fun, candid, and a bit unfiltered—a true blend of housewives gossip, wisdom, and shade.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Birthdays, Bravo News & Realness

• Celebrations: Tamra’s birthday is acknowledged, with playful banter over age and housewife timelines.
  • “We are the same age now, Marisol.” – Tamra (04:11)
• Talk of Karen Huger’s (RHOP) release from prison and thoughts on how returning housewives should re-enter the limelight.
  • “I hope she comes out as she is and doesn’t have to get glammed... we need the real, the raw after something like that.” – Tamra (05:01)

Miami Social Life & Housewife Labels

• Bougie vs. Keeping it Real: They joke about Marisol’s designer wardrobe and the superficial side of Housewives.
  • “Why are you looking at the... Tamra, look at my soul. My soul.” – Marisol (06:24)
• Nicknames, terms of endearment, and why Lisa Hoxstein got sensitive about being called ‘monkey.’
  • “It became a… bone of contention… I like giving people a name. And it’s like, it’s because I love you. It’s fun.” – Marisol (06:49)

Relationship Talk & Repeated Weddings

• On Lisa’s relationship with Jody:
  • “I think she’s a better Lisa with Jody… He’s quiet, he’s calm, and I feel like Lisa’s calmer with him, so that’s always good.” – Marisol (08:08)
• Marisol reveals she’s technically married to Steve three times—anniversary celebrations, rather than new marriages.
  • “If I do him every year, then I’m gonna run out of locations. It’s just like an anniversary celebration. Like you celebrate your birthday.” – Marisol (08:57)

RHOM Drama & Production Insider

• Wedding Party Explosion

  • Marisol’s wedding party was a surprise, not staged by her, and she didn’t take the chaos personally:
    • “We’re filming a show and everyone’s doing their overacting and shit… Julia slammed the glass, water got on all of us… You can’t do that.” – Marisol (10:15)
  • On Julia and Gertie’s feud: Julia’s temper was stoked by Gertie, but there’s more to hear at the reunion.
    • “She explains… at the reunion, so I think you guys should watch the reunion. She’ll explain why…” – Marisol (13:00)

• Blockings & Feuds

  • Marisol currently has two cast members blocked: Adriana and Gertie (28:00).
    • “I did it a few days before the reunion. … She takes things that have been resolved from months ago… and then puts something on her Instagram and starts dragging it.” – Marisol (28:06)
  • Multiple cast members have blocked Gertie over social media behavior (29:30).

Casting, Taglines & Housewives Hierarchy

• Marisol reflects on her “Friend-of” status and lack of desire for a full-time housewife slot:
  • “If I’m gonna have to tear my friends down to be a housewife, then I don’t want it…” – Marisol (20:49)
• Shares her tagline (were she a housewife):
  • “I love to rock a pony and I can always spot a phony.” – Marisol (21:24)

Hair Business & Charity

• Marisol discusses her hair extension business, Locks & Main, and their charity for patients with hair loss:
  • “We have a charity called Strong Like Me… started donating the wigs and the hair. And then… now we do adults and…” – Marisol (22:30)
• Offers to send Teddi wigs/extensions, touching moment acknowledging Teddi's health journey (23:07).

Reunion Teases & Cast Dynamics

• The reunion is hyped as explosive, unlike anything seen before; major revelations promised.
  • “I’ve never heard anything like this in my life. And everyone’s gonna be floored. I’m just saying. And I’m not hyping it up, I swear to you.” – Marisol (13:41)
• Stephanie and Alexia got the first seats at reunion, surprising some, but not Marisol.
  • “Maybe he did it for his own mental health.” – Marisol on Andy’s seating choices (24:50)
• Stephanie’s ‘annoying’ moments are mostly a product of editing; off-camera, she’s more well-rounded.
  • “You know how it works. They pick, like, the strong, most annoying part of your personality and they just stick to that.” – Tamra (25:59)

Adriana Feud & Yacht Incident

• Body shaming and hypocrisy:
  • “I got a problem with body shaming. Yeah. You know, at any age, it’s…” – Marisol (33:54)
• Marisol reveals reconciliations are made off-camera but not always reflected on the show due to editing choices.
• On Adriana:
  • “I knew we were supposed to be getting along… so I stayed so quiet because I wanted to do what… I’m supposed to do.” – Marisol (35:40)
• “Adriana brings a prop. Surprise, surprise, surprise. Okay. It wasn’t for me this time. Wow.” – Marisol teasing the reunion (48:06)

Package Deals, Friendship & Alexia

• Teddi and Tamra quiz Marisol about her close friendship (“package deal”) with Alexia.
  • “We’re thick as thieves. We’re old friends. We’ve come this far. And I’ve told her… no stupid television show is gonna, you know, cause us to have a problem.” – Marisol (38:34)

Relationship Reflections: Alexia & Todd

• Marisol believes Todd’s return was calculated during filming.
  • “I think that he strategically decided to come back into the scene and enamor her while we were filming… And it worked.” – Marisol (40:12)
• Confirms that Alexia and Todd are no longer in contact, and that Alexia herself cut things off.
  • “You have to walk away completely and, and, and block all communication. I’ve been there.” – Marisol (41:36)
• Suggests Alexia should look for someone new, outside of Miami.

Private Jet, Seating Chart, and Cast Tensions

• The infamous private jet seating chart is dissected, showing how production and cast decisions interplay.
  • “She (Stephanie) was very emotional that evening… she was also torn because she was in between the Lisa Larsa problem…” – Marisol (42:29)
• Multiple cast members debated even going on the trip.

Cast Trust and Friendship Outside Cameras

• Marisol says she does trust Julia, but hasn't had her trust tested yet.
  • “I’ve never had a reason to not trust her, but I’ve never also challenged that. So I don’t know, but I… think she’s cool and like a cool, fun girl to hang out with.” – Marisol (45:24)
• Closest with Alexia and Larsa: “Like, Larsa will call all the time and text us and… let’s have a pool party…” (45:54)

Social Media, Follows, and Breakups

• On whether to follow unfollow Marcus (Larsa’s ex): “I asked her. … And then when they broke up, I just unfollowed him.” – Marisol (46:31)
• Marisol never followed Lenny due to lack of friendliness.

Teasing the Reunion, Drink Throwing & Events

• Drink toss and group text drama dissected; Marisol hopes unseen reactions make it to air.
• Both parties (Gertie and Julia) acted badly, in her view, and the fallout still lingers.
  • “I don’t like either of their behavior. And from day one, I’ve said they were both wrong.” – Marisol (52:24)

Promoting Locks & Main

• Marisol plugs her business and charity:
  • “Locks in Maine is sold at HSN or 500 Ulta stores… In October, we’ll be in dry bars… And she started that charity and I’m really proud to be a part of it.” – Marisol (53:11, 53:59)

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On the Housewife Show Experience
  • “If I’m gonna have to tear my friends down to be a housewife, then I don’t want it…” – Marisol (20:49)
• On Reunions
  • “I’ve never heard anything like this in my life. And everyone’s gonna be floored. I’m just saying. And I’m not hyping it up, I swear to you.” – Marisol (13:41)
• On Cast Drama
  • “I got a problem with body shaming. Yeah. You know, at any age, it’s…” – Marisol (33:54)
  • “She takes things that have been resolved from months ago… and then puts something on her Instagram and starts dragging it.” (28:16)
• On Friendships
  • “We’re thick as thieves. We’re old friends. We’ve come this far. And I’ve told her… no stupid television show is gonna, you know, cause us to have a problem.” (38:34)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Tamra's Birthday and Bravo Gossip: 04:03 – 06:01
• Lisa’s Relationship & Marysol’s Anniversary Marriages: 08:03 – 09:18
• Wedding Party Drama/Production Insights: 10:01 – 11:53
• Blockings and Fights (Social Media Impact): 27:40 – 29:44
• Housewife Status, Tagline Fun: 20:00 – 21:41
• Locks & Main, Charity Work: 22:08 – 23:47, 53:11 – 53:59
• Adriana Feud and Yacht Incident: 33:43 – 37:00
• Alexia & Todd Dynamic: 39:28 – 41:38
• Private Jet Seating Chart: 42:13 – 44:49
• Drink Toss, Reunion Teases: 48:01 – 51:32

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

Candid, irreverent, but also strikingly honest, this episode offers both lighthearted housewife banter and a peek behind the curtain at Bravo’s carefully edited drama. Marysol is open about cast feuds, production reality, and where friendships stand. Listeners get exclusive hints about upcoming Miami reunion bombshells, a feel for the unique camaraderie (and dysfunction) of the cast, and a dose of humor and resilience from one of Bravo’s sharpest socialites.

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[Marisol Patton]

Two T's in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamara Judge. We are having Marisol Patton on from Real Housewives in Miami today. Can't wait to ask her all the questions. Hi.

[Marisol Patton]

Hi, girls. Hi, Teddy. How are you?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm good.

[Marisol Patton]

How you feeling?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm hanging in. You know, every day's a new day, but doing the best I can.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, one day at a time, right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

One day at a time. First and foremost on this pod, we need to say happy birthday to Tamara.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Tamara Judge]

Thank you. We are the same age now, Marisol.

[Marisol Patton]

Yes. I can't believe it because I've been watching news before even I was on and I thought I saw. You know, you assume you're younger, but you're just not.

[Tamara Judge]

I thought you were gonna say, I've been watching you since I was in high school.

[Marisol Patton]

No, of course not.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

College?

[Marisol Patton]

Well, no, not even like in the 2000s. Mid 2000s. Right. Later.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, early 2000s for my birthday. I got Karen Huger getting out of prison today, which was a great thing to see on Instagram.

[Marisol Patton]

What's happening?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I'm sure there was. I'm sure there was cameras following her the entire way.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Let's hope so.

[Marisol Patton]

This is what, wait till Jen Shaw gets out.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, but this is what I hope. I hope that they she comes out as she is and doesn't have to get glammed and all that. Like, we need the real, the raw after something like that.

[Marisol Patton]

Well, like what? You want her in an orange jumpsuit, no makeup, no wig?

[Tamara Judge]

I want. I don't need her in an orange jumpsuit, thank you very much.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But, you know, she could just rotate to a beige one.

[Marisol Patton]

Oh, that's federal prison. I learned that.

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't know that.

[Marisol Patton]

I didn't know that either. That's the tan one. I Found out. You know, I live in Miami. Oh, my God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, that's a good.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, glad she's home present. I'm actually going to Jackson Hole tomorrow morning. We're gonna do all the. I've never been there before.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wyoming. So it'll be.

[Marisol Patton]

Oh, it's very fancy.

[Tamara Judge]

I heard it's very pretty.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, I haven't been, but I hear it's fancy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I haven't been either. Tam's the only one. She's the bougie one, I guess.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah.

[Marisol Patton]

Bougie Tams.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah, that's me and my swe. Hat.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Every day. Every day. We can't help ourselves.

[Marisol Patton]

We're just keeping it real, girls. Nobody wants to get glam every day.

[Tamara Judge]

Marisol is the bougie one. I. You know, we. I follow those girls that do. Like, let's talk about how much their outfits are. Marisol. Marisol's is always up there in the thousands and thousands of dollars.

[Marisol Patton]

Well, why are you looking at the. Tamara, look at my soul. My soul.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I'm superficial. I gotta look at what you're wearing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You're pulling a Lisa. When she was talking about the Jets, I only friends with jets. And.

[Marisol Patton]

Oh, my.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God.

[Marisol Patton]

I'm not allowed to call her monkey anymore, so.

[Commercial/Announcer]

I know.

[Marisol Patton]

I can't believe that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think it's so cute.

[Tamara Judge]

Why?

[Marisol Patton]

She said it came up. It became a. A. A bone of contention, everybody at the reunion. And I was like, jesus, Lisa, I've been asking for 15 years a million times, do you like the name? She's like, oh, my God, I love it. I love it. And. But I want a name for you. What? Everyone was like, oh, you shouldn't be calling her them. Like, 15 years later, people like, really? It's a term of endearment. No more names for anyone. Just bro. Bro's the only one. And Pips. She doesn't care that I call her Pips. I just. I like giving people a name. And it's like, it's because I love you. It's fun.

[Tamara Judge]

I like that about you, too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I felt like that was a specialized name. Like, I thought. I didn't take any offense to it, if you would like.

[Marisol Patton]

I'm just. It's always been a sweet thing, but, you know, everybody has to something to pick if they don't have anything to pick. So guess what? Your name is now. Lisa Hoxtein forever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, maybe it was because there was all this animal talk with the rottweiler and the chihuahua. Now. Maybe that's why she's offended by it.

[Marisol Patton]

Lord, I don't know. Really. Decade and a half later.

[Tamara Judge]

Wait, do you. Do you think that she's going to get married to Jody and she'll change her last name?

[Marisol Patton]

I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I would like to see that trajectory for her, if it's good, if it's gonna make her happy. I think she's a better Lisa with Jody, but, you know.

[Commercial/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Marisol Patton]

So you like Jody. Everyone's on their good behavior. Yeah, I like Jody. He's quiet, he's calm, and he's. I feel like Lisa's calmer with him, so that's always good. You want your friends calm and peaceful.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I hope they get married. Well, I mean, not as many times as you've been married, so. How many times have you been married to Steve?

[Marisol Patton]

Oh, you mean to Steve?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Marisol Patton]

Oh, I thought you meant, like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, no.

[Marisol Patton]

Steve.

[Tamara Judge]

She has to count.

[Marisol Patton]

Wait. Two. Three. Three times.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so when's the next wedding?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is it Richard Branson gonna be on his yacht?

[Marisol Patton]

Oh, my God. Shut up, Daddy. Not in his yacht. But I'm thinking, like, one of his, like, fabulous locations. And I'm not gonna say which one, but maybe in a year or two, you know, if I. If I do him every year, then I'm gonna run out of locations. It's just like an anniversary celebration. Like you celebrate your birthday.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, I love it. Well, how is married life going?

[Marisol Patton]

Very good. Very good. He's a gem. I'm happy. You know, what more can I say? You know, all you want in life is some peace and a good companion. And I got that. Finally. Took a lifetime.

[Tamara Judge]

Sometimes it does. Took me three times now. How long have you guys been together?

[Marisol Patton]

Five years.

[Tamara Judge]

And how long have you, on paper, been married?

[Marisol Patton]

You mean, like, us? Like, legally, they were all legal. They just weren't legal in Florida. In the U.S. so legally, four and a half Tulum. The first one.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, okay, okay. Your wedding party was quite the disaster with Julia and Gertie of it all. You didn't seem too bothered on the show. Were you more upset than you let on?

[Marisol Patton]

Okay, let's just be real, guys. We're filming a show and everyone's doing their overacting and shit. And I'm like, okay, I didn't even know I was having this party. It was a surprise. I thought I was told specifically you and your stepsons and Steve are gonna have dinner with Alexia, Peter and Frankie. A fam. A family dinner to celebrate. Not, you know, because we got married the day before. Then I walked into this whole. Like, my whole family's there, my friends. I'm like, how the hell they pull this off without me knowing? And then the girls are doing their, like, you know, housewife stuff. And, you know, I let them do their thing because we are filming a show. And I didn't. It was not like I planned this party and it was very important to me. It was very sweet and it was a wonderful gesture. I let everyone do their thing. And, you know, Julia, you know, she threw that water. You know, she slammed the glass. The water got on all of us. And I was like, yeah, you can't do that. You can't do that. Larsa's like, this is not cool. You can't throw stuff. Like. And I think Julia understood that immediately. And one of the things she said to me in the bathroom was. She's like, it's just that Gertie makes me so. She gets me so mad. She just goats me. And I said, you gotta use your words. You can.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Why would she invite her on that trip? It makes no sense if this. If a person drives me crazy, I don't invite them. Places with not filming, when I'm not filming.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, not filming. Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Not filming.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Marisol Patton]

That's a. That's a Julia question, not a marital question. You know what I mean?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, you have an idea, you guys, she's in the cool group now.

[Marisol Patton]

With you, so, you know, I hate all those labels. It's so stupid. You know what it does? You know what it does? It's just. It just denotes that we're mean. We're not mean, we're just being real. You know how it's time where you gotta be real and sometimes people don't like to hear the real truth. And then if you say it, you're mean. I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So, Teddy, you're referring to the cruise that was taken where Julia brought Gertie off camera, right?

[Commercial/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Marisol Patton]

That's the funny thing about it. First I heard about it was at my wedding party. There was so much going on. I couldn't even believe that Alexia had found all these people like my childhood friends and my. My brother and his wife. I was. I was mortified. They all kept looking at me and everyone's screaming and fighting like it was a long. They immediately separated us with the girls and then everyone was just hanging out on know how these big events.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We heard that Julia really lost her timber and that it's happened before. Lashing out and we haven't seen it. I don't.

[Marisol Patton]

I mean, come on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know or you don't know?

[Marisol Patton]

I. I mean, she's lashed out at me before, and I'm like, where's that coming from? But she explains a lot of that at the reunion, so I think you guys should watch the reunion. She'll explain why she'll be watching. Oh, you guys have no idea.

[Tamara Judge]

We are watching.

[Marisol Patton]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is it bad?

[Tamara Judge]

Is it bad?

[Marisol Patton]

Oh, can I tell you, like I said before, Tamara, I've been watching since, like, what? I watched OC when it was first on, and I would watch Vicky on the weekends. I would totally zone out. When I had my PR firm, I would just lay in bed and cool down because it was so stressful. And I would watch it back in the day, and I would say to myself, that looks really cool. I want to do that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Really?

[Marisol Patton]

Like, three years later, they'd be knocking on my door. You know what I mean? But. And every year, you see everyone say, oh, it's an explosive reunion. Oh, my God, the things that are gonna come out. I swear to you. I mean, I haven't watched every reunion, but you see the clips on Instagram. I've never heard anything like this in my life. And everyone's gonna be floored. I'm just saying. And I'm not hyping it up, I swear to you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial/Announcer]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial/Announcer]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial/Announcer]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial/Announcer]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Were you in a mood this reunion, like, last reunion, or were you in a better place when you sat down? I forgot what you were upset about when you sat down last year, but there was something. We could tell. Your hair.

[Tamara Judge]

Wasn't it your hair or something?

[Marisol Patton]

It was. Well, adriana was like 247 picking on me. It was so annoying. And I thought my hair looked good. When I watched it back, I was like, oh, God, that's horrible. No, I. I think I hated my. My dress, which is my own fault because I designed it with somebody and I said, make it like that. I didn't realize that it was. Wasn't going to look so great. That, honestly, that didn't ruin my mood. Adriana was just one of those days where she was pounding me and pounding me and pounding me, and I was like, are you ever going to shut up? I was just. I had that puss on my face because it, you know, it's tiring and it's stupid.

[Tamara Judge]

What's her problem with you?

[Commercial/Announcer]

Adriana?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

There are moments where it seems like you guys are going to get along.

[Marisol Patton]

But then so badly. I do. I really don't know why she has to keep doing this. I did. I did see somewhere where she or she read somewhere that she did a podcast and she said, you know, you know, there was a lot of competition before because we were friends fighting for a house fight position. I'm like, I didn't feel any competition. Like, I didn't. I was always being a friend and being, you're either gonna, you know, get it or you're not gonna get it. And quite frankly, I don't even. I don't want it. I don't want it.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, let's talk about that. So this is your fourth season in a row being a friend We've talked about this personally.

[Marisol Patton]

Five, six. Holy. The first two years I was a housewife. Fifth year. Sorry, third year. No, it's been five years like that. I don't care.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It doesn't matter.

[Marisol Patton]

I get all the same airtime. I get paid really well. I don't care. Care. If I'm gonna have to tear my friends down to be a housewife, then I don't want it for the extra little ching ching at the end. You know, it's not that much more.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And yet. And you really do film everything that they do.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, it's my film at my house all the time. I film personal scenes. I film with the girls. I film group. I host group trips. I host parties. I do all of it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, so it's. I mean, I get what you're saying.

[Tamara Judge]

I want you to be a housewife just because I want to hear your tagline.

[Marisol Patton]

You want to know my tagline? Yeah, I have it, but I'm never going to use it because it's never going to happen because I love to rock a pony and I can always spot a phony.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I love it.

[Marisol Patton]

That's a cute one.

[Commercial/Announcer]

Oh, my God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh. Well, sometimes I do tease you a little bit about your headbands, but this one today is very cute.

[Marisol Patton]

It's called I don't feel like doing my Hair. It's the baseball cap.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's the baseball cap of my.

[Marisol Patton]

Well, I actually own this company, so I gotta wear my wares because no one's selling them for me except for me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, that. You look adorable.

[Tamara Judge]

Is that part of your hair extension line?

[Marisol Patton]

Yes, yes, it's part of Locks and Main. We sell these at Ulta and Target. But yeah, this is part of Locks and Main, which is like clip in hair extensions and ponytails. It's doing amazing. And it's not even on the. Like, it gets no play on the show. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I didn't even know this. I had no idea.

[Tamara Judge]

I found out in Boston you had that really nice ponytail.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, yeah. So it's all human hair. And actually we have a charity called Strong Like Me that we started in 2017. This. The company's based out of Canada. My partner's son had leukemia and she met a lot of children in the hospital. There were like little girls losing her hair. She started donating the wigs and the hair. And then in 2021, it became like an official foundation and now we do adults and. And I tried to. To get hair to you, Tanny. Like, nope. You know, just to try it out if you like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I would love to try it.

[Marisol Patton]

You didn't have to. You don't have to tag. You don't have to post. I would, I would.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But send it to me. I, you probably have my old phone number. My tumor phone.

[Marisol Patton]

No, I have your new phone number. I got it to me back in the beginning and then I asked Dolores to reach out to you. I know you were going through a lot, like you don't have to tag it or anything. I just want you to try it. You can call it one.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Believe me, I want to try it. I love to try new things, especially wigs right now. Trying to find comfy ones.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, I mean it's, Wigs are uncomfortable.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Marisol Patton]

Straight up. Straight up. But I love your short hair. Thank you. It's very Annie Lennox. It's so chic. Like if I could wear my hair like that, I would. You would.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You think you would until like a couple months into it and then you're like, all right, I'm over it. I want to have a ponytail.

[Tamara Judge]

It's like cutting bangs, right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, oh, you like them for a little bit and you're like, oh God, these damn bangs.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, so do we have the seating trait yet from the reunion or no?

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, that came out a while ago.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh yeah. So that sometimes they're fake. So I never believe it.

[Marisol Patton]

Oh yeah, no, no, no, it was legit.

[Tamara Judge]

Stephanie and Alexia were first seat. Was that a shock to you?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Me?

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Was that a shock to you?

[Marisol Patton]

Oh God, nothing shocks me. Not really. No. No, I, I, I was struggling, wondering who the hell is going to get. I mean, I don't really care because I know it's never going to be me. So I'm always figuring, I always know. I'm at the end of the sofa, everyone's like, who do you think it's going to be? And I don't really care. And then I thought, well, there's so many toss ups. It could be like, you know, Julia and Gertie. It could be Lisa. I thought it was Lisa and Larsa. They dragged that, that, But I couldn't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

If I had to hear about that anymore.

[Marisol Patton]

Maybe, you know, my, the way I rationalize it is maybe. And you know, Andy's done a million of these and you know, I'm sure it gets tiring for him. He probably didn't want to sit in between two people that are going to be yelling over him right next to him. So maybe he did it for his own mental health.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, it's not Very often that a newbie gets first seat at the reunion.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And how do you feel about Stephanie?

[Marisol Patton]

I mean, I like Stephanie. I think she's great for the show. I'm so happy she joined, and I hope she stays. I really do.

[Tamara Judge]

Teddy loves her.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, she.

[Marisol Patton]

I.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Here's the problem. She drives me a little bit nuts with the bragging.

[Marisol Patton]

Right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is it less bad when you're with her in bigger doses? Like, am I just seeing little tidbits from. Because she's filming a show? Like, is she talking about herself all the time like that?

[Marisol Patton]

I mean, I've hung out with her off camera and she. It's not really like that, but. So now that you say that, in hindsight, I mean, we spent a lot of hours and a lot of months filming together. So, you know, but.

[Tamara Judge]

But you know how it works. They pick, like, the strong, most annoying part of your personality and they just stick to that.

[Marisol Patton]

Right? They. They. Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah, but there was. It was more than that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I do more bragging than that.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah. And I do, actually.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I thought you meant there was more to her than that than bragging.

[Marisol Patton]

Well, there's both. Well, there. There's many things about her. She's multifaceted. She's very emotional. She doesn't hide her feelings. She can be angry. She can be a bossy, she can be funny, she can cry. She can be self deprecating. Like, she does it all. Which I appreciate because sometimes people just show up and they want to be admired and adulated and loved, and we're like, sorry, guys, it's not, you know, a Runway in a fashion show. And it's like. And clap for me. Like, we all get beat downs and we all need to show every side of ourselves.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, that's true.

[Marisol Patton]

She shows every side of herself and I appreciate that. And that's why she's great for the show.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I think she's great for the show. It's just watching it sometimes I'm like, please.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, People.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

A lot of people I know have private jets and they don't talk like that.

[Marisol Patton]

I know. Well, you know, everybody put them on.

[Tamara Judge]

A housewife show and put a microphone on them, and all of a sudden they're like, look at my private jet.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, no, not really.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Even, like, not always. Can we talk a little bit more about Adriana? She has a tumultuous time on the show together. Where does your relationship stand currently?

[Marisol Patton]

So currently I saw her blocked.

[Tamara Judge]

Is she the only person on your cast that you have blocked? I have two people blocked on my cast.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Cast.

[Marisol Patton]

I have, on my current cast, only two people blocked.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, okay. Who's the other one that's blocked?

[Marisol Patton]

Verity.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, did you do that this year?

[Marisol Patton]

I did it a few days before the reunion.

[Tamara Judge]

So things hold on. Things get worse.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Teasing us with some additional information.

[Marisol Patton]

I think it's not that it gets worse on the show. I think just the problem is she takes things that have been resolved from months ago and then when the show airs and she sees the reaction of the audience, then she'll jump on it and then put something on her Instagram and start dragging it.

[Tamara Judge]

That's why I. That's exactly why I blocked one of my cast members.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because Jen has been going on a rampage on Instagram. I can't even have to.

[Tamara Judge]

I've seen the repost. Yeah, because it was like she would go on her Instagram and people would talk about me and then she'd add to it and I'm like, yeah, they jump on it and it's like, oh, God, girl, really? And I'm like, I just don't want to see it. I don't even want to be tempted.

[Marisol Patton]

It's. It's detrimental to the show. I think, you know, we all get dragged, but we don't all go and do a crazy post and. Do you know what I mean? And, and, and, you know, we're supposed to be friends, we're supposed to bicker, we're supposed to move on, we're supposed to get along. We're supposed to actually like each other. And I feel like, you know, I just, I didn't want to see the posts anymore. I'm like, blah. I get that I need my mental peace.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you think she's realized it?

[Marisol Patton]

There's actually four cast members that have her blocked. Oh, and somebody today told me, I don't want to see those posts anymore. Should I block? I go, don't ask me what to do. You do whatever you want. So there might be a fifth.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Now I haven't even. I haven't even seen the post.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial/Announcer]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Commercial/Announcer]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Each episode joins host and former Chicago Cop turned Chicago PD producer Brian Lucci, and he's joined by the actors, producers and writers behind the epic One Chicago Universe.

[Commercial/Announcer]

To listen to the One Chicago Podcast, Search for One Chicago Podcast on Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app. That's One Chicago Podcast.

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[Tamara Judge]

So back to Adriana. How do you feel about her behavior on the yacht? Because when it comes to knees at 58, I got a problem with that because there ain't nothing we can do about it.

[Marisol Patton]

I got a problem with body shaming. Yeah. You know, at any age, it's. It's okay. So we had actually done. So Julia tried very hard to mend the relationship between Alexia and Adriana and I. So we had a bowling scene. We all go bowling. We're getting along. Adriana's like, you know. You know, I really want it to be like it used to be and whatever. And I said, me, too. And I'm like, but what's changed in the last, you know, six, seven months? She just kind of gave me a blank stare, whatever. The whole scene got cut because we all make up. And literally a few days later, we're on a bus to the goddess event, and she's snapping at me. At the goddess event in the truck, in the. In the. The SUV that we go in. She's giving me all the flags. And I was like, I thought we were supposed to be getting along. Then we get on the boat and she starts all that nastiness. I called my producer from the. You know, I went down to my room, and I was like, he didn't pick up, and I left him a voicemail. I'm like, what do you want me to do? The directive is to get along. She's being awful. I'm gonna snap her neck. And I don't want to look weak, but I'm gonna snap her neck. Any. Any respects. Or I'm gonna call. Just, you know, don't do anything. Just whatever. Relax. And so I relaxed. We went to dinner. She was calm at dinner. And, you know, and then it just continues and continues and continues. And I. You know. You know what? I did the whole knee thing. That's why I stayed quiet, because I knew we were supposed to be getting along. And I'm like, what happened to us getting along? What are you guys doing? I thought we were supposed to be getting along. So I stayed so quiet because I wanted to do what, you know, I'm supposed to do. And the pact that I made with her on scene, which I thought was going to air, that never aired. And they cut it because they said it didn't make sense, because then she starts attacking me. So, you know, I turned the negative into a positive. I've been having chats with Dolores about her knees, which she'd done renovi on.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes, I want to do that. Let's go. I'll do it with you.

[Marisol Patton]

Okay, but don't you find it a.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Little ironic that Adriana called you an old whore and then was very upset at Kiki for calling her old?

[Marisol Patton]

I mean, of course I said it to her. I was like, are you kidding me? She looks at me and she goes, shut up, Marisol.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I mean, isn't that housewives, though, 101? Being a hypocrite?

[Marisol Patton]

I don't know. I try not to be.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I know, but there's a lot of them. There's a lot of them.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

It's like you can do. They can do whatever they want to somebody, but if you do it to them, then you're a horrible person.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you think there's any chance in hell she was trying to say the word wretched?

[Marisol Patton]

Oh, please. Watch the rest of the show. That will unravel itself.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, so we're not done. We're not done with that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We're not done with that.

[Marisol Patton]

We're not done with that. Just keep watching.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. Speaking of being done with, do you think there's any change, chance Dr. Nicole comes back next season?

[Marisol Patton]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I felt like there was a perfect setup. There was a perfect setup for her to come back.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah. Yeah. And, I mean, she has a fan base and they want her there, but I don't. I don't.

[Tamara Judge]

But you don't. But you don't. She's got a fan base, but I'm not a fan? Is that what you're saying?

[Marisol Patton]

Why are you. Why are you guys putting words in my mouth? I didn't say it. You guys are always trying to get me in trouble.

[Tamara Judge]

I can read your energy. I can read it.

[Marisol Patton]

Energy. I'm happy. I'm having a tequila for your birthday.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And now she's putting some lip, but she's got to lean back and put her lipstick on. Now she's like.

[Commercial/Announcer]

Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Why do you think that everybody is so obsessed with calling you and Alexia a package deal?

[Marisol Patton]

Well, with the twins, yes. I think because we're the closest and we speak all the time, and, you know, we're very open with each other. I think we have a very rare relationship in this, you know, this genre of work that we all do, that we don't turn on each other, we speak every day. We're very close. We do family things together. We share everything, which is hard.

[Tamara Judge]

That's hard to do when you're on a show like this. Has there ever been. Has there ever been a time where she said or done something where you're like, afterwards, like, really?

[Marisol Patton]

We both have. We both have. And then we talk it out and we snap at each other and we yell at each other, and she yells a lot louder. So I'm usually like, you know what? You're right. I just. I like to keep it calm. We're. We're thick as thieves. We're old friends. We've come this far. And I've told her a million times, no stupid television show is gonna, you know, cause us to have a problem. And we're very open and discuss everything. And you know that she's very vocal and she. And she calls me, she says it, and then she gets over and so do I. And so, you know, we don't make plans when we go on camera, but we always do speak about our thoughts on things and speak things out and clear stuff up before we, you know, even get there. But things happen. I mean, you see us have little snippies together, but we're like sisters, you know, it's normal.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, throughout this season, you kind of talk a lot about the toxic relationship she's in with Todd. Do you find that she was actually listening in that moment? Cause I remember, I think maybe you guys went and did pottery. And then, you know, in the pottery thing, she starts immediately, you know, maybe painting something for Todd or something like that.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, she's doing a lovey dovey little tile for him. Oh, my God. Texting me. Jesus. She knows I'm on here with you guys. I really forget.

[Tamara Judge]

She knows that you guys are so close. She knows you're talking about her right now.

[Marisol Patton]

No, no, it's just she's sending me stuff and she. I mean, whatever, Todd. So here's. Here's the thing. I think that he strategically decided to come back into the scene and enamor her while we were filming to get, you know, her to, like, clam up and, you know, shut down whatever anybody was saying, speak more, you know, preferably about him. And it worked. And she has said to me, I could. I'm really mad at myself for all of that, you know, I mean, it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Didn'T work for us. I don't think any more positively about him, but it worked that she clammed up, but I. I felt sorry for her.

[Tamara Judge]

I. I thought it was quite clear what he was doing to her. While she was filming. And I think that she was still in a very, you know, state of mind. Yeah, exactly. But as of now, they last I talked to her, they are no longer speaking or communicating at all.

[Marisol Patton]

Right. I know that, that, that's done.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is this the longest they've gone?

[Marisol Patton]

I don't. I guess, I don't know. I. Let me. No, is it. Wait.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because it. Leaving a narcissist can be very difficult.

[Marisol Patton]

It's about the same thing. But she's the one that did it this time. She shut it down.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Good for her.

[Marisol Patton]

You have to walk away completely and, and, and block all communication. I've been there. Yeah. That's the only way to get away.

[Tamara Judge]

She needs to get under somebody else is what she needs.

[Marisol Patton]

Absolutely. She needs new day, new D. Are.

[Tamara Judge]

You helping, Are you helping her with that? How's she doing with that?

[Marisol Patton]

Listen, she doesn't need any help, but I do, you know, make suggestions like maybe nobody in Miami. Maybe like a nice guy from New England. You know, I don't know. Just a different type of vibe and energy than what's here because, you know, we get all kinds here in this town.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. And then can we talk a little bit about the private jet seating chart? Because.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh my God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, it was definitely nerve wracking the night before. Like, did you think that Stephanie's like crying at the restaurant? Did you think that made sense?

[Marisol Patton]

She was very emotional that evening. Extremely emotional. She was like. Yeah. I don't know if she was on the rag or. It was like.

[Tamara Judge]

That since high school.

[Marisol Patton]

Right. That's such an 80s term.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I'm happy that she still gets hers.

[Marisol Patton]

But then she was, she was a feeling a lot of ways. I think she was also torn because she was in between the Lisa Larsa problem and then the, you know, I forget who. Also Kiki and. Kiki and Adriana were fighting. And so I said, why don't we sit down and do like a, you know, maybe have people sit strategically so they're not in front of each each other and it's a pleasant ride. Mind you, I've never been on the jet, so I don't know the seating. So she starts doing the drawing where people are isolated and I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I like this. And then there was so much fighting in the last three days and I was like, you know, I don't even want to do this anymore. I don't want to see my friends isolated. I don't want anyone getting in a fight. I just want to spend some time with Alexia. I think I'm going to ditch the whole thing. I thought about it all night. We called Julia to the room. Julia came and hung out with us. Adriana ended up coming up also. And I said to Julia, listen, we. We were with her for, like, four hours, saying, are you sure you're okay? Are you sure you're okay? I'm plying her with booze, and she's like, you girls don't have to go. Don't worry. And then Adriana was like, I don't want to go. And then Lisa's like, I don't want to go. You know, everybody. I don't know, everyone started. They weren't in the room. Adriana was in the room with us. But the word was that a lot of people didn't want to go. And I said, I'm just going to stay behind with Alexia. But I slept on it. And the next day, Alexi and I, in the morning called our boss and said, listen, we don't want to go. And he goes, you go, it's not going to be the same if you girls don't go. And I said, it's just.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it's better. I disagree. I disagree with the producer. I think it's better when you kind of split things, people up on a cast trip like that, because it's a different dynamic. And then, you know, people are bitching and complaining that, well, why didn't they go? And then you're over here, So I just feel like it gives you more content.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think it would have been better.

[Marisol Patton]

If he was cool. He was like, listen, you girls can do whatever you want. You know, they don't tell us what to do, right? And he's like, but I feel like it would be better if you were there. It'd be more fun. And I said, well, the Bro show is not going to go. So we didn't decide till that morning. 100, 100, 100%. I said, let's sleep on it after Julia left the room. And then the next day, I woke up and I looked at Lexi and I'm not going. You can do whatever you want. You go. I don't want to go.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you trust Julia?

[Marisol Patton]

I do. I like her a lot. I do. I've gotten to know her. She's very sweet.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's not trust.

[Marisol Patton]

I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

You know. You know, she's media trained.

[Marisol Patton]

I've never had a. Had a reason to not trust her, but I've never also challenged that So I don't know, but I. I think she's cool and like a cool, fun girl to hang out with.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. Okay, so who would you say you're closest with other than Alexia? Currently?

[Marisol Patton]

I guess Pips.

[Tamara Judge]

I was gonna say Larissa. Yeah, had to been Larson.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, I mean, you know, we're close to Lisa too, but like, Lisa doesn't call us. Like, Larsa will call all the time and text us and. What are you guys doing? Come over, let's have a pool party, you know, And I, you know, I always have love in my heart for Lisa, but she doesn't really call to make plans. But Lars is very like family.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, tell me and Teddy are too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, we're not.

[Tamara Judge]

The friends are gonna keep texting, calling and making plans. Right, Ted?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, that's us.

[Tamara Judge]

We need to be better friends.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ted, did you ever follow Marcus or Unfollow?

[Marisol Patton]

So. Yes. So I saw. I think I saw that he was following me. I don't remember. He's always telling me, oh my God, you're so funny. Whenever I'd call Larsa, he'd always be there on speakerphone. And then he started following me, I guess. And then I said to Larsa, he's following me. Is it okay if I follow him back? She goes, yeah, no problem. And then when they broke up, I just unfollowed him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I had a conversation.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, Like I asked, you know, I asked.

[Tamara Judge]

I asked her too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And.

[Tamara Judge]

And she said when all this came out, I didn't think about it. I followed him back from the trader's days. And she, I said, do you want me to unfollow? And she said, yes. I said, okay, deal and follow.

[Marisol Patton]

I mean, that's just girl.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. Like, who cares?

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, it's basic.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's not like his Instagram was so interesting.

[Tamara Judge]

It's not like he cared that I unfollowed.

[Marisol Patton]

I don't even remember anything he posted.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And.

[Marisol Patton]

And I never followed. I never followed Lenny because, like he was. Was never nice to me. So, like, why would I follow him? And then.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you ever see him around town? Lenny?

[Marisol Patton]

No. Because he's like a South beach dude and I never go to South Beach. Like if they do more like late nightclub stuff and I don't do any of that.

[Tamara Judge]

Isn't he old? Why is he still doing that?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because he's dating 22 year olds.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah, he's gotta keep him happy. That's it.

[Tamara Judge]

That sounds exhausting.

[Marisol Patton]

I can't. Like, I just can't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yep.

[Tamara Judge]

So reunion was epic. You say anything, you can tease any.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Anything.

[Commercial/Announcer]

Any little tidbit.

[Marisol Patton]

Adriana brings a prop. Surprise, surprise, surprise. Okay. It wasn't for me this time. Wow.

[Tamara Judge]

I was gonna say you didn't bring a prop.

[Marisol Patton]

I don't. I don't bring them to the reunion. Oh. I have my Tumblr. I mean, but that's basically for the cockies. You gotta have, like, a little nip and a sip there because it's a long day.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. Well, I have one last question before you give us a final tease. How about, how did you feel and how did you react to Gertie showing the text versus how they acted during the drink toss? Because to me, like, everybody was in upheaval when she showed the text, but, you know, it was pretty chill when she got a drink tossed on her.

[Marisol Patton]

Well, the drink toss reactions were not shown, so hopefully they will be shown. Yeah. So that's why when I was upset about that, which I've seen before on this show, and she left and came back, and I thought, but why are you back here? That's just happened to you? Like, I would have left. And she had an interesting conversation with Kiki on the side, which I wish Kiki would share, like, with the public, because that would be very revealing and interesting, why she came. Why she came back. But that's a question for Kiki, and you guys need to get her on here. So she left the room, came back for a very interesting reason. I didn't know that until afterwards. And then, yeah, we all were like, oh, my God, what are you doing? We don't like that. You know, it just kind of just wasn't there. Hopefully you'll see it now. You know, maybe it'll come out in the reunion. I kind of hope so, because things were brought up, and hopefully they'll dig up the footage and show it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Why should Gertie leave and not Julia if.

[Marisol Patton]

Okay, right. So I took Julia to the bathroom, like I said, to calm her down, because she was so angry. Angry had come back, and I said, you gotta calm down. You know, this is whatever. She apologized. I was like, you can't throw things at people. You gotta use your words, the whole thing. She went out, everybody was behaving, everyone hung out. They were there till we left. After that, I wasn't gonna throw anybody out of there. I don't throw people out of anywhere. First of all, I didn't even know this party was happening. But when I got to Gertie's event, since I was vocal about how I felt about the drink throwing. We even had a scene the next day at my house with Julia, and she was crying and apologizing. She brought the letter she had sent Gertie in the text.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, so she showed text first.

[Marisol Patton]

She did. She said, I sent her this long apology. She's not answering me. It was the day after my wedding party. They only showed a text. Tiny bit.

[Commercial/Announcer]

Yeah, but.

[Marisol Patton]

And I was. And I. Alexi and I were like, you cannot do that. We reprimanded her for, like, an hour straight here at my house. So then when I got to the point of Gertie's event, I was like, what the is this? Like, I'm filming all these outrages of why I didn't like what you did to Gertie. How am I not going to react the same when Gertie publicly humiliates her? Because that was pretty bad.

[Tamara Judge]

That was really bad.

[Marisol Patton]

I was mortified. I went into an event and, you know, I was crying. It was beautiful. It was about her. You know, her. You know, just, you know, her remission, that she's fine. Two years. She's that bitch. The whole thing. Her husband's there, the kids. I'm crying like, you know, I'm very. I get very sentimental about health things. Like, I was my caregiver for my parents. Like, those things bust me up big time. So I was, like, all crying, and then all of a sudden, it turns into this, you know, this, like, I'm like, what are you doing? Why are these techs up here? There's all these cancer patients in the room. I found the whole thing distasteful because what I.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What she told me, she came on the pod and she said that it was like a separate thing. It was kind of like the after party. And it was actually an event for the Knot. Like a wedding part. Like a wedding magazine.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah. So she's had, like, a. Ever since. She's spun it 20 different ways. Ever since people were saying, okay, we have our cancer charity. They presented a cancer check. There's cancer patients in the room. When people. She saw the reaction that they didn't like it. She's like, oh, no. It was my cover release for the Knot. It became something else afterwards. But what I went to, I was horrified. I don't like either of their behavior. And from day one, I've said they were both wrong. And hopefully other things will be shown.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And we go from there. Well, anything. Can you please tell our listeners again where they can find some of your hair extensions and. Oh, yeah, headbands and Whatnot. So we can promote that.

[Marisol Patton]

Yeah. So locks in Maine is sold at HSN or 500 Ulta stores. We're now going in October. It'll be in the Middle east in Ulta, they're in Bloomingdale's, online. In October, we'll be in dry bars. So when you get your blowout, you can add extensions as an add on. And yeah, it's, it's doing really, really, really well. And congratulations. Well, it's my business partner, Jennifer. She started the company and, you know, I jumped in on it because I, you know, it wasn't like she was reinventing the wheel, but I fell in love with her. I, I, you know, sometimes you invest in the person, not the product. Right? Yeah. And every door she hits on, people open it. She's a wonderful human being.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Marisol Patton]

And she started that charity and I'm, I'm really proud to be a part of it.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, congratulations.

[Marisol Patton]

Thank you, girls.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thanks for coming on and making us laugh.

[Tamara Judge]

We love you so much.

[Marisol Patton]

I love you girls too. I hope to see you soon.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hope to see you soon.

[Marisol Patton]

Bravo con. Yeah, BravoCon. Are you going, Teddy?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes, I'm going to. So I'll be there. And you got to come to our two T's and a pod party.

[Marisol Patton]

I come to your party like I did last time and give you a person. Maybe I'll bring some hair or just ship it. Yeah, text me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

All right.

[Marisol Patton]

Enjoy the rest of your birthday. It's so.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thank you.

[Marisol Patton]

Thank you. All right, love you both. Bye bye.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Marisol Patton]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line.

[Commercial/Announcer]

But first, There the last one.

Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

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[Marisol Patton]

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