The Twot Seat: MEREDITH MARKS (RHOSLC)

Summary

Two Ts in a Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: The Twot Seat: MEREDITH MARKS (RHOSLC)

Date: January 12, 2026
Guest: Meredith Marks
Host: Tamra Judge (Teddi Mellencamp absent)

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Episode Overview

In this engaging "Twot Seat" episode, Tamra Judge sits down with Meredith Marks – currently one of the most talked-about housewives on Bravo’s Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC) – for a candid, revealing interview. With the reunion still unaired, Meredith shares her unfiltered perspective on the turbulent season, addressing rumors, accusations from castmates, family impact, social media scrutiny, her evolving business ventures, and the broader world of Housewives drama. Tamra and Meredith reflect on the unique pressures and double standards of reality TV, as well as their own experiences navigating the highs and lows of fame, friendship, and public perception.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reunion Anticipation and Meredith’s State of Mind

• Catharsis at the Reunion: Meredith expresses relief that filming has wrapped and found the reunion "very cathartic" as she could finally address issues she couldn't speak openly about during the season.

  • “For me, reunion this year was very cathartic because I felt like I could finally really talk about things that I really wasn't able to during the actual season.” (05:07 MM:SS)

• Hints at New Info: The reunion will reveal new information and context for viewers, providing “a lot more understanding” as to her actions and conflicts during the season.

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2. Targeted Accusations and Double Standards

• Defamation & Drug Test Drama: Meredith strongly disputes accusations of substance abuse and cheating, labeling them as defamatory rather than factual. She points out the hypocrisy and double standards among the cast, referencing specific incidents when her character was unjustly attacked.

  • “A lot of the women need to take a good, hard look in the mirror and, you know, see what's going on in their own lives that is making them try to literally completely defame me. Because it's not truth.” (06:50)
  • Repeatedly offers to take a drug test anytime (“I’ll pee in a cup any day...I have nothing to hide.”* 07:03) and notes no one else was willing or interested when it came to it.

• Accusations as Deflection: Meredith suggests that some housewives use attacks on her to deflect from their own problems.

  • “I think some of it is a little bit of herd mentality where some people have been convinced by others. I think some of them are deflecting from talking about their own problems and issues.” (18:23)

• Plane Incident Skepticism: Meredith debunks rumors of outrageous behavior on a plane, questioning why, if the accusations were real, no one intervened or captured video. She points out the absurdity and lack of evidence.

  • “If what was going on is really what they were saying...how awful are you that you don't step in and do something?...Like, it was that bad and you did nothing. What does that say about you?” (20:40)

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3. Impact on Family and Children

• Family’s Reaction: Her children were initially skeptical of how bad the season was until watching it themselves. Ultimately, her family is supportive and understands the manufactured drama of reality TV.
  • “When they watched, it felt for me… now that they've seen it, they're like, oh, wow, we get it. And I'm sorry you went through that. But, you know, they're unaffected by it because they know what it is.” (08:29)

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4. Friendship Fallout, Hypocrisy, & Cast Dynamics

• Marriage Rumors & Double Standards: Bronwyn bringing up rumors about her husband came as a shock, particularly because she previously insisted that spouses and children were “off-limits.”

  • “It's a double standard. Don't talk about her marriage, but I'm going to go talk about someone else's...What she's saying happened in New York is a partial truth.” (10:27)

• Heather’s Hypocrisy: Meredith brings up Heather's harsh criticism for being called a liar, while Heather herself lied for years about her black eye.

  • “The big issue was her—me saying you lied when we know she lied about a black eye for years...But she did lie.” (26:58)

• Who Runs the Show? On whether Heather is a “puppet master”:

  • “I think there's a lot of herd mentality...Who is actually pulling the strings is tough to tell. Yeah, I think in certain circumstances, yes.” (27:55)

• Mary’s Concern: Meredith credits Mary as genuinely concerned for her well-being, unlike others who mask criticism in the guise of “friendship.”

  • “She clearly did seem to be very, very, very concerned, and I felt horribly that she was upset and concerned by it.” (29:46)

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5. Taking Accountability & Production Side Notes

• On Accountability: Meredith acknowledges sometimes being reactive but refuses to apologize for things she did not do.

  • “I take accountability for the things that I actually do. I'm not going to take accountability for false accusations against me.” (35:09)

• Conflicts Off vs. On Camera: She discusses sensitive off-camera conversations and how misinterpretation or willful misrepresentation by others becomes weaponized on the show.

  • “Now I just. I can't have conversations with [Bronwyn] off camera...She volunteered the information and I said, is it okay for me to bring this up? And she said, I'd rather not have to take accountability for it, but if I do, I will. Go for it." (33:45)

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6. Social Media and Fan Perception

• Meredith maintains a pragmatic perspective on social media “negativity,” sometimes taking breaks when fan negativity spikes.
  • “Usually I can let it go because it's sort of like I just don't care that much about one person's random opinion, you know?” (39:50)

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7. Housewives Universe & Beyond

• Filming Future/Quitting Rumors: Meredith doesn’t confirm or deny rumors about leaving but is open about feeling exhausted post-reunion.

  • “Let's hope I feel good after reunion...sometimes you finish the reunion, you're like, I'm never doing this again.” (48:52)

• Would She Return with Jen Shaw or Monica? She would consider filming with Jen Shaw if Jen’s post-incarceration story is redemptive, but is wary of Monica’s motivations given missed context and rumors about her leverage among the cast. (40:09)

• Asked About "Traders": Meredith would entertain appearing on "Traders," seeing it as a fun departure.

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8. Business Ventures and Personal Life

• Bath Products & Caviar Lounge: Meredith plugs her bath product line and talks about her caviar business and upcoming caviar lounge in Park City.

  • “We're getting ready to open a caviar lounge in Park City, which I'm super, super excited about.” (46:19)

• Brooks and Next Gen: Proud of her son Brooks and the RHONY: Next Gen cast for their maturity.

• DJing: Meredith fell into DJing unexpectedly and loves being able to party without the stress of hosting.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Double Standards:

  • "Tell me when I have been fall down drunk...The only time you can say I was tipsy was at the rumors and nastiness night. And yes, I was. I had two martinis. I'm not a heavy drinker." (18:23)

• On Fans’ Support:

  • "I think early on, I had a very hard time with the fans. I think that in these last few weeks, it has finally started to gel for people that this was just like an orchestrated takedown that is not rooted in reality and that is just completely insane." (39:01)

• On Andy Cohen’s Reunion Walk-Off:

  • "I'd like to think that I was not the cause of that, but I guess we'll see as we watch what it really was." (36:19)
  • "When everybody's yelling, it's. It's a waste of everyone's time, you know, and it's a long day, so I get why he gets irritated with that." (36:38)

• Describing the Reunion:

  • “Cathartic, for sure…a lot of chaos…very disappointing [for some cast members] that they didn’t get the reactions they were looking for.” (37:05)

• On Leaving the Show:

  • “Sometimes you finish the reunion, you're like, I'm never doing this again. It's like childbirth.” (49:01)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:11: Tamra introduces Meredith and explains Teddi's absence
• 05:07: Meredith discusses the reunion’s catharsis
• 06:45: Meredith addresses season-long accusations against her (drugs, marriage)
• 07:25: Drug test drama and how she handled it
• 08:29: Impact on Meredith’s family and children
• 09:56: Bronwyn’s marriage rumor, double standards
• 18:23: Substance abuse accusations and herd mentality
• 20:35: Plane incident breakdown & why the narrative is implausible
• 26:58: Heather's black eye lie and friendship fallout
• 27:55: Discussion of cast “puppet masters” and show power dynamics
• 29:46: Meredith on Mary’s genuine concern
• 34:56: Meredith on taking accountability (and standing firm on what she won’t)
• 36:14: Andy Cohen walks off the reunion
• 37:05: “Three words” reunion description: cathartic, disappointing (to others), chaotic
• 39:01: How online fan reaction has shifted across the season
• 40:09: Would Meredith rather film with Monica or Jen Shaw?
• 46:19: Meredith discusses caviar business and upcoming lounge
• 47:38: Whether she watched a documentary about Mary and her church
• 48:52: Meredith addresses rumors about quitting the show

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Conclusion and Takeaways

This episode offers a deep dive into the behind-the-scenes machinations of RHOSLC, with Meredith providing her most unguarded thoughts on cast conflict, housewife politics, production realities, and ongoing misconceptions. Notably, she stresses the catharsis of the reunion as a means for truth, the isolating nature of targeted takedowns, and the challenge of taking accountability in a world rife with false narratives. Listeners gain an insightful look into the mental and emotional toll reality TV can take—and how the stars themselves work to maintain sanity, family, and business pursuits amidst chaos.

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For full context and nuances, listeners are encouraged to tune in to the entire episode, especially those wanting the gritty details of the accusations, housewife dynamics, and personal reflections from Meredith Marks.

Transcript

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Hi, guys. Welcome back to another episode of the Twat Seat. It's our first guest for 2026. I feel bad because Teddy is not here, and I know that she'd want to do this interview, but I'm gonna give it my best shot because it is the most talked about housewife right now. And that's Meredith Marks.

[Meredith Marks]

Hi. How are you? Hi.

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I don't see. There you are.

[Meredith Marks]

There we go. I'm like, I think everything's on. Yeah.

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First of all, I want to thank you coming on the podcast today. Teddy, of course, is not here with us, but she would have loved to been here, so. And I also want to thank Bravo for allowing you to do this because your reunion has not aired yet. So if I ask you something that you know, I know that you will say, I can't answer that.

[Meredith Marks]

I'm. I'm good at saying that.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

I know you are. You're very good with your words, that's for sure. I want to start off by thanking you as well for this gift.

[Meredith Marks]

Yes. Yes. I wanted to take your bath.

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Well, you know what? I've been gone most of this month in Big Bear and stuff, and back, you know, the holidays and stuff, but I have a beautiful bathtub, so I am definitely going to try this for sure. By the way, guys, the smell of these just opening it and they're sealed is amazing.

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I think you'll love them. But report back, please.

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I will. We're.

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We love constructive criticism, too, if you have any.

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[Meredith Marks]

Yes, they are. You can get [e-mail] we have a link right on our site. And yeah, they're available. They're ready to ship.

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They smell so good. And they're beautiful, too. So congratulations on that. You have to be so happy that this season is. Is done. I mean, you have the reunion still, but I always feel as the housewife, after you shoot the reunion, the season's over in my mind.

[Meredith Marks]

I agree. I think there's something just. I mean, for me, reunion this year was very cathartic because I felt like I could finally really talk about things that I really wasn't able to during the actual season. So for me, reunion was pretty amazing and it was great. And then like you said over Is over. Went into the holidays, and it was beautiful. Had a lot of great family time and great vacation time. And now, unfortunately, it's back to work.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

So are you saying. Saying that there were things during the season you weren't able to talk about, but you will talk about at the reunion?

[Meredith Marks]

Correct.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Okay.

[Meredith Marks]

There's definitely a lot more information that you'll find out at reunion. A lot more. I don't know, probably understanding. I mean, look, a lot of this is you. Most people, I think, can see that. There was just a lot of like, oh, Meredith, you don't talk enough. And then you start talking, and the next one's like, oh, you talk too much, you know?

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Yes, Yes.

[Meredith Marks]

I was kind of, like, pigeonholed well by the women.

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And they definitely had their feet on your neck all season long.

[Meredith Marks]

Yep.

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And I can relate to that. I've had seasons like that. They're not easy seasons to go through. Very painful. So, I mean, a lot of times I literally just wanted to give you a hug.

[Meredith Marks]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

I would love it.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah.

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Because, you know, it's. It's. I mean, it was tough. I'm talking about substance abuse, talking about your marriage, talking about cheating. You know, there was so much accusations being thrown your way.

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[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, I mean, I think that a lot of the women need to take a good, hard look in the mirror and, you know, see what's going on in their own lives that is making them try to liter. Completely defame me. And that's what it is. It's defamation because it's not truth. And if it were true, that would be another story. But it's. It's not. You know, and I. As I said multiple times during this season, I'll take a drug test any day, anytime you want me to leave you right now and go peanut cop, I'm happy to. I have nothing to hide.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Now, you brought the drug test to one of the events. Did you guys ever take the drug tests, or was it just like.

[Meredith Marks]

Because as soon as that was actually something for real, they're all running. And I'm not running. I'm not the one. I'm happy to pee in a cup any day. If you come see me on the Bravo Con. If I see you, I ran into in the montage one day, wherever you hand me a cup, I'll pee any day, anytime, no problem. You're going to find, other than what I've said, which is a little thc, I'll take an occasional gummy Here and there, usually to sleep.

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[Meredith Marks]

Thank you. I'll take that, definitely. And that's it. Like, I'm not. It's. I'm not into that. It's, you know, no judgment on those who do. It's just. It's not my thing. It's not. I'm not a heavy drinker.

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Was this season hard on your children? And did you have to tell them, like, you know, this is coming out or this happened? And are they just like. Like, my kids are like, nah, we know this stuff's all, you know, is what it is.

[Meredith Marks]

It's not hard on them in the sense they. They. I think they really, when they watched, it felt for me. When I came back, you know, after Santorini, Seth actually came and met me the. The morning I knew I wasn't leaving there because I had a wedding, like, a few weeks later in the English countryside. So I thought, okay, I'll just stay in Europe for a few weeks and take a little vacation. I didn't know where I was going. You know, going into these trips were so slammed, I couldn't plan and think about it. And that morning, I w up, everyone was gone. And I was like, you know what, Seth? Come meet me in Crete. And so he somehow got himself there, like, a day and a half later. And I sort of took a while to unwind, and the kids were calling me, and I was like, I can't even talk about what happened because I'm, like, still trying to process it all myself. And by the time I got back, everything had settled in, and I tried to explain to them how it was, how horrible it was, and they were just like, I don't think they could believe that was really as bad as I was saying. They kept saying, you should reach out to this one. You should reach out to that one. And I'm like, you don't get it. And now. Now that they've seen it, they're like, oh, wow, we get it. We get it. And I'm sorry you went through that. But, you know, they're unaffected by it because they know what it is. You know what it is. I know what it is. And most of the audience, I think, knows what it is. You know, when we have these targeted takedowns, you can't win.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

You can't win right now. I was very shocked in the season finale when Bronwyn brought up the dinner with another woman with Seth. Now, Bronwyn was the one that made it quite clear that husbands and children are off limits. But yet she held on to this information, which I find it hard to believe only because Bronwyn can't keep a secret for five seconds and she's saying she held onto it for five months.

[Meredith Marks]

So what's interesting about all of this is, you know, everyone's like, oh, you got so silent in the car. And it's because I was like, very surprised. I was very shocked by what was going on, you know, and it's a double standard. Don't talk about her marriage, but I'm going to go talk about someone else's. Well, we have a little problem here because like, what she said we talked about that night was partial truths, not full truths. And what she's saying happened in New York is a partial truth. And I mean, I have a text from her own husband who was there saying it was very clearly a business dinner. There were four men there. Did she forget that part?

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That annoys me.

[Meredith Marks]

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I know just having, like, when we had our gym, we had a lot of female instructors, and Eddie would go to lunch or whatever, like, you know, talk about the business or whatever. Just go to lunch. Like, hey, you want to go to lunch? And from, you know, after. During work time. And I would get dms. Your husband is at the Mexican restaurant with a girl? Yeah, that's one of our trainers, you know, so people would have it. And I'm sure you would get the same thing. Like, if he was out on some romantic dinner, somebody would have snapped a picture and they would have been, hey, of course.

[Meredith Marks]

And the funny thing is, you know, it was a restaurant I'd never been to, and it ends up that I went there with Seth after I was like, take me to this restaurant. You know, it ends up the owner of that restaurant was the maitre Dia at Scal Nutella for decades, where I went with my family for decades. So he remembered Seth being in there, and we had a whole conversation about it. He's like, yeah, he was here on a business dinner with all these guys. And, yeah, and Todd said the same thing. So, I mean, go ask Todd. Go ask Diego. Like, come on.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. One thing that we have talked about on the podcast this entire season is you have been the same person since season one. So six years later, you are still the same person. Why now do you think that they're accusing you of substance abuse and all these other things?

[Meredith Marks]

I think that it's a combination and I think it depends on who. I think some of it is a little bit of herd mentality where some people have been convinced by others. I think some of them are deflecting from talking about their own problems and issues. So if they can create one for me, then that becomes the main topic of conversation. And I think others are projecting their own problems onto me because clearly there are some other things going on here. You know, you can sit here and say this stuff. I am not like, tell me when I have been fall down drunk. I wasn't fall down drunk for three days at bravocon. I wasn't vomiting and peeing at the same time. I haven't like the only time you can say I was tipsy was that the rumors and nastiness night. And yes, I was. I had two martinis. I'm not a heavy drinker. That's a lot for me.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, yeah, that's a difficult one when everybody is coming at you with the same story, oh, she's got a problem. And then there's this whole conversation about the, the plane. There's. I find it very hard to believe, and I'm not kissing your ass on this, but if something like that went down to that level, somebody would have taken video and I don't know, maybe they have it at the reunion. I'm not sure. We haven't seen it yet. But that's where I get it. Loses me a little bit.

[Meredith Marks]

You know, we see these flights and videos posted on social media all the time. I'm sure you travel a lot just like I do. You know, even someone just playing music on their phone quietly, they're reprimanded to turn it off. Yeah, we, you know, we know that what they are saying is just not possible. It's just not possible to. Ivent to Lisa intermittently. Yes, I did a little bit at the beginning, a little bit at the end. 100% were the things I, you know, and the things I said, I've already said to Britney's face. So that's just like playing the victim here. Being like, I heard that these things. I'm. I'm broken from it. I said them all to you before. You weren't broken by them. When I said them to your face. Yeah, like it was nothing new.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

If it was that bad as they say it was, why didn't anybody step in?

[Meredith Marks]

Well, that's the Bigger question. If there were, and let me be clear, there was one producer in first class with us. That was it. The rest. So you have eight people from our cast and the other 12 people, the majority of the first class cabin are just regular individuals. And let me ask this. Of those seven other, let's say six, let's take Lisa out of the mix because she was next to me. Of those six other people, if what was going on is really what they were saying, were saying, how awful are you that you don't step in and do something. This is your friend here and your other friend who's totally unhinged. Either stand up for Brittany and shut me down, stick a camera in my face, because guess what? What's going to happen? I wasn't mad about someone recording me. I was mad about somebody recording me, you know, without being honest about recording me. Big difference. So stick a camera on my face. What do you think is going to happen? You're either going to capture it or it's going to shut it down. You know, like, stand up for Britney or go, come for me. And be like, hey, what's wrong? Are you okay? Do something. Be a friend. Be a human being. Like, it was that bad and you did nothing. What does that say about you as. As a friend, as a co worker, as a producer, whoever it may be, you did nothing, but you saw this. Wow.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, wow. And there had to have been many producers and crew members on your plane as well, right?

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, we had someone right in the row behind us. They weren't coached, but it was a curtain. The curtain was open. We turned around. We were talking to her throughout the flight at different times. Like, you know, there were people. There were two producers very close to us and one in first class, one not. And they would.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

They would have recorded it. Another thing is. Another thing is, is you had every right to be upset when somebody comes after your marriage and it's clearly a lie and you're insane and they bring something to you. You know, it's happened to me before. You have two options. You can either go full force on them and tell them they're an effing liar, or you can just be like, okay, whatever, sure. And there's like, you know, a lot of us housewives are like, the more you buy into it and the more you yell, the more people think it's real.

[Meredith Marks]

Of course, that's the thing. When you go to defend yourself, people are like, oh, it must be true. Well, what am I supposed to do? Just be like, okay, make these Accusations about my husband, who, by the way, this year was the first year in our lives that my husband was working completely remotely. We were together 24 7, but we don't see any of that. Yeah, we never even saw a fallout scene between me and my husband after these accusations were made.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

How long have you been married?

[Meredith Marks]

We're going 30 years, since August.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Oh, my gosh. That's a long time. It's a long time. Congratulations. Congratulations. But what I was getting at is that you have every right to be upset. And when the cameras were down and you're in that plane, I probably would have vented to. To my friend. I would have just, like, if I was sitting next to Lisa, I'd be like, this is bullshit. Like, this pisses me off. You know, now that it has set in, like, I probably would have had some kind of reaction, too. But the reaction that they say you're having, just the math is not mathing.

[Meredith Marks]

No. I mean, you guys have seen me all these years. I just. If anyone honestly thinks I'm standing up on a plane and I would have had to stand up to kick her seat because I couldn't reach it from where I was sitting. Oh, and I had a spray and I was sprained. So really, come on. Like, this is. It's so ridiculous. And, you know, there is more to the story, I think, some of which will come out at reunion, some may not. A lot of it was spoken about, but I have a feeling not every. You know, they only have so much time. So I'm sure you won't get every detail, but I think you'll learn a bit more about why I was agitated, as agitated as I was, but certainly not to the level they claim.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Now, recently, Monica Garcia came to your rescue, and she did a TikTok or something on social media, basically saying, you're not the one with a drinking problem. It's somebody else on the cast that was taken to the hospital that was very vocal about. Didn't want production to air it or talk about it. Is there truth to that?

[Meredith Marks]

Somebody did go to the hospital? That is correct. I can't speak to whether a stomach was pumped or not because I have no idea on that part. But, yes, somebody was taken to the hospital from drinking. And, you know, I do find it very interesting that that is completely something that we don't see or talk about yet. You know, these women can make these accusations on me all season long. I mean, it's crazy to me, but c' est la.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Another thing that from the past that Was buried very quickly was the black eye. Yeah, nobody ever brings up the black eye situation, ever.

[Meredith Marks]

Well, I think it's wild because, you know, Heather's whole bone to pick with me this season was that I said that she lied. Which I actually, as you saw in the scene, maybe you didn't pick up on it, but I said in the scene it was a mistake. I didn't mean to say that because I didn't mean to call Heather a liar in that moment. Now, in retrospect, having seen everything, maybe things have changed a bit.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

But.

[Meredith Marks]

But. But the big issue was her. Her me saying you lied when we know she lied about a black eye for years. And a lot of people were, you know, looked into because of it. She got a lot of people in a lot of trouble because of it. And you're going to end a friendship with me and stay on my case for two months screaming at me because I accidentally called you a liar? And I didn't even call you a liar. Accidentally said you lied. And maybe I should have said it now, like I said in retrospect, but I didn't. That's the funny part. I didn't actually.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

But she did lie.

[Meredith Marks]

She did lie. She did lie. But you have to remember in real time at this point, I only know what some of the women are saying about me because I'm not at all of these different moments, you know, So I don't know exactly who said what. And I was very much trying to give Heather the benefit of the doubt. Like, I knew what Brittany was saying. I knew what Whitney was saying. I was not 100% sure what Heather was saying because we had talked on the phone, and she did seem to be supportive of me when we spoke. So it was just a whole different thing. And then I think she didn't like that I'm not doing what she says, just like she didn't like it that I wouldn't gang up on Lisa. She had asked me to do some other things on the phone that I chose not to do that she should do on her own if she wants to do them. And I think she got mad I wouldn't. And so this, again, more punishment, you know, Know, it's just like, whatever.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. Do you think Heather's the puppet master of the show?

[Meredith Marks]

I think there's a lot of herd mentality that goes on on our show. Who is actually pulling the strings is tough to tell. Yeah, I think in certain circumstances, yes. I don't know that I would say on the show in general, but in Certain circumstances, Yeah, I do think so.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Okay, so you can really tell how much Mary cares about you. Where are you guys now? You guys in a good place? Who. Who are you not talking to?

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, I mean, well, I'm not talking to most people, but.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Same. Same.

[Meredith Marks]

Yep. Yeah. I mean, this is the whole thing that's really interesting to me. You know, it's like these women are sitting here and pushing you and bullying you to say you did all these things that aren't true and say all these things that are about you that aren't true under the guise of being your friend, and it's just not the case. Like, you can't sit here. Like, when I say things about Britney, I don't pretend I'm saying them out of kindness. I'm not. I'm not saying I'm not voicing it out of kindness. I'm voicing it because she pissed me off. Like, I can own that, you know? But to pretend that it's because you're my friend, whether it's how Heather dealt with Lisa on the boat or how they dealt with me the whole second half of the season, it's like, don't pretend you're my friend when you're clearly trying to decimate me, you know? And Mary was a different situation there. You know, she clearly did seemed to be very, very, very concerned, and I felt horribly that she was upset and concerned by it. But, you know, I think she had a lot of people saying a lot of stuff all season long to her in her ear, and I think she had a lot going on in her own life with her own. We don't think. We know she had a lot going on in her own life with her own son.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Right.

[Meredith Marks]

And I'm sure that that was impacting her and impacting, you know, her focus, because obviously she's going to be very focused on her own kid. That's normal. And I think they kind of convinced her of all of this because everybody was saying it to her. And we see how at Bravocon, her statement was a bit different. She had really backed off on it because I think she recognized that she had all these people in her ear trying to skew her into this direction. And when they're all saying this over and over again. Yeah, of course she's going to be afraid and concerned for her friend. Yeah.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

You know, what made you decide to reach out to Bronwyn on the trip to have her come to your room to talk about what was said? Which, by the way, even if you did ask her what was said? Why is that such a bad thing?

[Meredith Marks]

It's not, but I didn't ask. We did have a conversation about it and you know, here's the thing. So I called Bronwyn down in the first place to talk about something related to production. And so we're obviously not going to spend the whole day talking about that. Right. So that was why I asked her to come down. And she came down and then it quickly pivoted to. She was very, very nervous about the reunion. And I did say to her, I said, well, you know, usually it's going to stem from something that happened from these break off scenes. And at our scene, I don't think there's anything that really is going to be the basis for reunion. So maybe there was something that you're seeing and if she wants to think that that was, you know, harassing her for information, she can think that. I don't really know. She was very upset. She came down, you know, I guess she had other making fun of her that she was a lesbian after she had said she made out with a woman or whatever. You know, I wasn't there for that part when they had that conversation. So I was not in tune with it. She was kind of like really breaking down, very upset, very nervous about reunion and didn't like that. She was like being weaponized, you know, for having kissed a girl, which I agree with. That's wrong. You don't do that, like. And I felt horrible and, and I said to her, I haven't heard any of this, you know, because I probably wasn't paying if the jokes were made. I didn't get them because I didn't, I wasn't there for the conversation. So I said, I'm glad you told me, you know, you have my support. That's wrong. We don't do that. And you know, I thought we had overall this really good conversation. And so the next day I was like, what? Like I didn't pump you for information. If you think me saying that what happened at your lunch is probably the basis, then fine, that's pumping, I guess. But that was not my intention. And she didn't tell me what they talked about. But I think the next day was her own guilty conscience because she did talk about my marriage after very specifically saying that's what we don't do. And it's just, it's a double standard. The rules don't apply to me and usually not to Lisa either, the way they apply to them. You know, they can say all these things about Us. But if we even say one little thing that touches on it, we're in trouble. And I don't. You know, I made a very conscious effort not to say anything about Bronze marriage, because when I was trying to be helpful the year before, it turned into we were taking Todd's side because we cheat on our husbands. Like, that's where it went.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

I remember that.

[Blue Apron Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Meredith Marks]

And so, like this year, when people were annihilating Bronwyn's marriage, I just was silent. I didn't. I couldn't stand up for. I couldn't go against her. I'm like, I'm not talking about it. I'm not going there. I saw where that got me the last time. Thank you, but no, thank you.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, I think we saw a different side of Bronwyn this year for sure. I feel like I don't want to say anything too negative, but just a different side of her. Let's just leave it at that. Now what?

[Meredith Marks]

Salad at the end of the day and every conversation I had with Bronwyn that wasn't on camera, which now I just. I can't have conversations with her off camera because he responded to something else. The whole Britney thing. She 100% told me that I would never know to ask her about that because I didn't know it was happening. All I knew was it happened that one time that I saw. So why would I all of a sudden be like, hey, Bronlyn, does Brittany drink to the point of vomiting and start drinking again? Repeatedly? Like, I wouldn't even know to ask the question. She volunteered the information and I said, is it okay for me to bring this up? And she said, I'd rather not have to take accountability for it, but if I do, I will go for it. That was what happened.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. Speaking of accountability, a lot of fans are saying that you do not take accountability for the things you do. Is there anything you feel like you didn't take accountability for?

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, I think that I have been at times, very reactive to things, and I don't love that. I think I should be, you know, less bothered by these women. Sometimes.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

That's hard.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah. No kidding. No kidding. But the reality is I. I take accountability for the things that I actually do. I'm not going to take accountability for false accusations against me. So if you want to say that I was dumping wine on Britney's head on the airplane, I am not going to take accountability for it because it didn't happen. Will I take accountability for saying things that are not nice but true about her on the plane to Lisa, and maybe it was a little louder than I thought it was, but she had over ear headphones on and I had set them all to her face. Anyway, it was not that big of a deal, but I do fully take accountability for that. It was 100% the wrong place, was 100% the wrong time to do it. But I don't feel bad about the things I said because they're true and I said them to her face before.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Now, at the end of the day, the season finale, we see a little clip for the reunion, and it's the first time, I think, in Housewife history that Andy has walked off the stage.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, it was crazy.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

That's crazy. That is crazy.

[Meredith Marks]

It's crazy. It's crazy. I mean, I'd like to think that I was not the cause of that, but I guess we'll see as we watch what it really was.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Who do you think was the cause? Was it just everybody yelling over each other and he's like, he couldn't shut you guys up.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah. I mean, no one can hear. I get it. Like, when everybody's yelling, it's. It's a waste of everyone's time, you know, and it's a long day, so I get why he gets irritated with that. I. I do too, some of the time, but I hope it wasn't me, but maybe it was. I don't know. In the heat of the moment, one never knows.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Can you give us three words that would describe the reunion?

[Meredith Marks]

Well, for me, cathartic, for sure. Because I got a lot off my chest. Whether it all airs or doesn't, we know it won't all because there's only so much time. I'm fine. Like, I got it out, which was major for me. I would say that it was to some of the women, probably very disappointing that they didn't get the reactions they were looking for. I think they were looking to really incite certain issues that they were unable to get accomplished. So that I would say for some of the women, but I don't think it will be for the audience. And I think you'll see a lot of chaos. It was very chaotic. Yeah. We did see part of what Andy left. Why Andy left. You know, he came back, though. Come back.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. In the teaser, we see Heather saying her friendship with you is over. Those are strong words. Those are very strong words for somebody that's on an ensemble cast.

[Meredith Marks]

Well, she said it a few different times during the reunion. That was not the only one. But, you know, in my View. Like, I don't know what to tell you. She was screeching at me for two months. And even if she wasn't, but that's how I felt. I'm expressing that it's not that deep. You guys can sit here and say that I am an alcoholic, a pill popper, mentally unstable. My husband cheats on me, this, that, and the other. And I'm like, you were screeching at me.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

You sound like a good housewife. You sound like a good housewife with all those.

[Blue Apron Advertiser]

Right.

[Meredith Marks]

Like you. Can producers dream accusations? Exactly. Make all these false, false accusations against me. And then I'm like, you were screeching at me. And that's it. So now our friendship's over. Well, then I guess we didn't have a friendship to begin with. If that's the little bit that it takes for it to be over, fine.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

How are the fans treating you on social media and does it affect you?

[Meredith Marks]

Yes and no. I think it's been very up and down this season. I think early on, I had a very hard time with the fans. I think that in these last few weeks, it has finally started to gel for people that this was just like an orchestrated takedown that is not rooted in reality and that is just completely insane. But so it's been. I've had a. I mean, I feel like, especially after last night, it's been mostly very, very positive. Does it affect me sometimes? Usually not. Usually when I feel like things are not great for me, I try to stay off and I sometimes will take a week break or whatever, you know,

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Good advice to anybody out there.

[Meredith Marks]

No one needs to read, like, all this negativity about themselves. But usually I can let it go because it's sort of like I just don't care that much about one person's random opinion, you know?

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. Yeah. Would you rather film with Monica or Jen Shaw?

[Meredith Marks]

You know, that's interesting.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Is that an either?

[Meredith Marks]

No. You know, I'm very curious to see. You know, Jen did serve her time. I believe she's paying her restitution. I would be hopeful. I would love to see a story where she has turned a corner. Like, that would be incredible to see this become, you know, this positive outcome where she pays everybody back and does some really great things like how beautiful. That would be amazing. I don't know if that's the case or not. We're gonna all find out. Monica. It's interesting because there's a lot that has come to light over the last. Not just, you know, this season with How I was treated and seeing how things unfolded, but also things I found out about. That there may have been some fears regarding Monica of her having information on people that I didn't know existed that I am now very well aware of and aware of why it would be so concerning for them. So I have to wonder if everything was so fair there with her.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. Does it obviously gives you a different viewpoint on how the group treated Monica? It sounds like I like Monica, but I didn't work with Monica, but I really like her.

[Meredith Marks]

I didn't have a problem with Monica really, until pretty much like in Bermuda when she was trying to pin all that stuff on me that I just didn't do. And. But it wasn't just Monica. It was everybody. Again, another, like, everyone's like, let's try to take down Meredith. You know, I think they just have a problem with me and Lisa, and it's like they feel like if they can isolate us by taking either of us out, then the other one just is done as well, because then they can all just come after us without any, you know, one to support. So do I think everybody's saying that? No, but I think there is a group in the cast that does that and then they sort of rope everyone else in somehow.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. Would you ever do Traders?

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, I think so.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

I'd love to.

[Meredith Marks]

Have you been asked?

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

You will? You will. I think everybody at certain points, gonna be asked. It's such a good show.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah. You loved it.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

No, I didn't love filming

[Meredith Marks]

was.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

It was just hard on me because I am such a homebody. And then you go to Scotland, you're by yourself, you're stripped of pretty much everything. No outside conversations are happening, and. And it's hard. And then I got really sick, so it even made it harder because when you're sick, last thing you want to do is be isolated. So it was. If I think in different circumstances, it would have been more enjoyable for me. But it's in general, just watching it is such a good show. It is such a good show. I think that you would do great at it.

[Meredith Marks]

I think that would be fun. Change of pace.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. So some fan questions. A lot of fans want to know, where do you live? Do you live in Salt Lake City? Do you live in New York, or what's going on?

[Meredith Marks]

Both. Both I. And everywhere else, too. The airplane's probably the best answer of all, but I. You know, we spend the ski season, which is roughly five months out of the year, in Utah, and we then are based in New York the rest of the year. But I actually spend less days in New York than I do in Utah because we travel all the time. Like, I like to spend at least a month in Europe in the summer, hopefully, too.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

What a lovely life. What a beautiful life. Now, you raised your kids in New York, right?

[Meredith Marks]

No, no, no. My kids were raised part time, part of the time in Utah, Toronto, and Chicago.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Okay.

[Meredith Marks]

So we. We bounced around quite a bit, which is, you know, why I think I like moving around. It's very. I get very anxious when I think I have to stay somewhere for a really long period of time.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Now your son Brooks is on Next Gen. How is he enjoying that? And how are you loving seeing him just take the torch and run?

[Meredith Marks]

I think NextGen is phenomenal. I think it's like a whole. It's interesting. I mean, let me ask you this, because I think that these kids are dealing with some pretty heavy issues some of the time, and they handle it more mature than the housewives do. It's crazy to me. They have more maturity than we do. And I just. I watch and I am just like, wow. Brooks has done an incredible job with it. You know, he really helped put that whole cast together. And they are great. It is a great group of kids. I mean, I know they're not kids. I call them kids because they're young, but, you know, a great group of young adults.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Do they have to be 21 to be on that show?

[Meredith Marks]

You know, I don't know legally what the story is, but everyone is 21 and over.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, I think it might be they're

[Meredith Marks]

all 21 to 29 or maybe Charlie turned 30 this year. I don't really. I'm not sure about him, but my daughter. In their twenties.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

My daughter wants to move to New York and pursue music and fashion, all that stuff. And she's like, I'd really like to be on that show. So I'm like, well, wow, maybe. Maybe one season.

[Meredith Marks]

Right? Right.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

That would be amazing. How's your. How's your caviar business going?

[Meredith Marks]

Oh, my gosh. The holidays is, like, total chaos. I'm happy the holidays are over because things are now settling down a little bit, but caviar has been amazing. I am having the best time with it. It's, you know, it's just. It's something I love. It's. Everything I do is something I'm passionate about. And we're getting ready to open a caviar lounge in Park City, which I'm super, super excited about.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Can I go to the Grand. Can I go to the grand opening?

[Blue Apron Advertiser]

Yes.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

I would love it.

[Meredith Marks]

You're gonna have to come to town and visit then.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Are you gonna DJ there?

[Meredith Marks]

I will. I will sometimes.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

How the heck did you get into that? How did you get into it? Now Dorinda's doing it as well. I'm like. I wouldn't have saying about it.

[Meredith Marks]

It's fabulous and amazing. I love Dorinda doing it. We keep saying we have to do something together, and we will. Hopefully. Hopefully this summer we'll find the time to do that. You know, really? I was asked to DJ for Pride, and that's sort of how it came about. And I had no idea that it would take off the way that it did. And so I've just been having the best time with it. It's like throwing a party without having to do the heavy lifting. And so we continued on my tour. I've got several dates in January and February that we're doing, and it's just. It's the best. It's like fun, fun, fun. There's nothing negative, nothing bad about it. Everyone's in a good mood. I get to meet and interact with people, which is always, you know, I like that. I mean, I know it can be exhausting for us sometimes, like a Bravo.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

I don't know how you do it. I wouldn't know the first thing about it. I know we're running out of time, but I want to have one last question.

[Meredith Marks]

Did you.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

This is a fan question. Did you watch a documentary about Mary and her church?

[Meredith Marks]

I have not. I just got back from Punta Mita. We were there. I saw that after I DJed in Puerto Vallarta. Verta at the Trist Hotel, which was.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Did you see Vicky there?

[Meredith Marks]

No. Was she there for New Year's?

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, Vicky was. She. She has a house. Yeah, she has a house in Puerto Vallarta. So she's. She's been there for over a week, maybe two weeks now.

[Meredith Marks]

I wish I had known. Yes. I wish I had known she was there. I would have invited her to my DJ set. We had the best time. That was so much fun. And then the kids and I and Seth all went on to vacation for about a week. So I just got back last night. So, no, I've not watched it. I. I don't. You know, all I've seen are a few things here and there on Social, so I can't really speak to it.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. Well, Meredith, thank you so much for taking the time.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, thank you. This was so fun. And so now you have a trip to Park City this spring?

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yes. Yes, for sure. I mean, I hope the rumors of you quitting the show are not true. I saw those out there.

[Meredith Marks]

I hope not, too. Let's hope I feel good after reunion.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

I mean, sometimes you finish the reunion, you're like, I'm never doing this again. It's like childbirth.

[Meredith Marks]

Birth.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

It's like childbirth.

[Jill Winterstein]

It's just hard.

[Meredith Marks]

There's so many positives. But then you say, why do I put myself through the negatives?

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

I know, I know. But you know what? Bravo is a great place to work. It's an amazing platform. There's so many other things you can do, and they're so good to us. So that is 100 good hands.

[Meredith Marks]

That's why we all keep coming back.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah. But again, thank you so much. I wish you the most amazing 2026.

[Meredith Marks]

Thank you. Happy New Year to you, too. And I hope it's all positive and great things for both of us. So do I.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Please, for once.

[Meredith Marks]

Yes. We need it to be great, so. And I hope I see you soon. Yes.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Thank you again.

[Meredith Marks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, have a great day. Bye.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Bye.

[Meredith Marks]

This is an I heart podcast.

[Jill Winterstein]

Guaranteed human.