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Dolores Catania
Two teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge. Hi, guys.
Teddy Mellencamp
Welcome to another episode of Two Teas and a Pods with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Dolores Catania.
Dolores Catania
Hello.
Teddy Mellencamp
Hi, babe. What's up? Nothing much.
Dolores Catania
I'm still in Rhode island, you know, just hanging out. I'm actually supposed to go meet a senator because she passed a law in Rhode island recognizing menopause in the workplace. So when you go to work and you're all fucking crazy flashes and crazy flashes crazy. Then you should be given some time or some grace. And I want to go shake her hand.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. Well, that's great that you're going. I can't wait to hear more information about that.
Dolores Catania
Yeah. I want to thank her. Young girl. She's in her late 30s. And, you know, because Perry. Menopause starts at 35.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. I think I'm in either Perry or real.
Dolores Catania
It's real, girl. It's all real.
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh, my gosh. Well, Tam is going to be. So this is just a little housewife headline. Tam is going to be so upset that Karen Huger came out and she was glammed. I think she was glammed. I think she was glammed. I mean, she looked hot.
Dolores Catania
Would she do get glammed in the car? Because, you know, you. You go from the gate opens and you get into the car with whoever's, you know, I did.
Teddy Mellencamp
Was Theresa Express. When she was leaving to go out, did they. Did they film that? Did they get pictures of that? I don't remember. So long ago.
Dolores Catania
No. You know, her lawyer picked her up, so I think it was her lawyer that. But she went right home to film. It was the. Remember, it was the first time the girls were seeing her after a year not seeing her, but being able to. She's home. She didn't tell them she was coming home. Oh, God. Even thinking about it was crazy.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. Nobody. For Karen Huger, they had, like, the cameras. You could see the cameras in these paparazzi pics. You could see her getting into the car, waving.
Dolores Catania
Listen, we've seen her on her worst. Yeah, I don't think what we saw, Teddy. Well, we saw that day on that video. You can do all the glam she wants because I will never get that out of my. I can't unsee that.
Teddy Mellencamp
That's true. That is very true.
Dolores Catania
Glam it up, because I'm still gonna see you and saying the things that you said. That made me laugh for five months. I love five months.
Teddy Mellencamp
I thought you were gonna say five minutes. Nope. Five months.
Dolores Catania
Five months. And I still will. I'll still watch it if it comes up. If the feed comes up somewhere, which it should. I'm still gonna watch it.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, now that we've talked about it, it's infiltrated into your phone, and you're good.
Dolores Catania
Come on, today. I could use a good laugh. I always. I'm always good for you for a laugh.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, I know. I miss you every week when I don't talk to you. Yeah, no, I'm a little. Yesterday I had immunotherapy.
Dolores Catania
I know that's hard, right.
Teddy Mellencamp
So they did that, and then they also gave me an iron.
Dolores Catania
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Like an iron infusion takes forever, right? It takes forever. But I also. I've never had one, so I'm, like, kind of hyped up.
Dolores Catania
Girl. Enjoy that hype.
Teddy Mellencamp
I mean, like, whoa, whoa.
Dolores Catania
Yeah, well, that. That goes to show you how bad you needed it. Yeah. Really? Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
I've never had one before, so.
Dolores Catania
I have. Because I used to have very heavy periods, and then I had an ablation, so I didn't need one. But I was extremely anemic. Extremely. Like, I should have been hospitalized. But the thing is, it's such a slow drip, right?
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Dolores Catania
Yeah. But I. Is this your first one? You've never had it? I would think you would have needed it with all the immunotherapy that you've been through.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, yeah, I kept showing that I had low iron.
Dolores Catania
Low iron.
Teddy Mellencamp
And then I ended up going and getting my eeg, and they said, you know, like, each time she does her immunotherapy now, she should get the iron.
Dolores Catania
Amazing. Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
So now she's waiting on my EEG results, which.
Dolores Catania
How expensive it is. Insurance doesn't coverage, Teddy.
Teddy Mellencamp
It doesn't?
Dolores Catania
No. If your insurance doesn't, yours probably will. Mine was thousands of dollars. Oh.
Teddy Mellencamp
So I'm getting that good. Good.
Dolores Catania
You're getting that good shit?
Teddy Mellencamp
I'm getting the good shit.
Dolores Catania
Well, I'm happy for you.
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh, thank you. So I Hope that this time goes up. You know, I end up feeling better because this weekend it's Kyle's daughter's wedding.
Dolores Catania
Oh, that's right. Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. So I'm really hoping it'll be, like, my first time being up, like, past, you know, 9 o' clock A. So I'm like, you gotta have the energy. I hope that you keep feeling good, and I hope that, you know, the wedding's what, Saturday?
Dolores Catania
Yeah. Amazing. You'll be fine. This is great. It's such you. Even your skin, your coloring, everything. Beautiful. Always, anyway. But I'm glad you feel good.
Teddy Mellencamp
Should I wig or no wig?
Dolores Catania
No wig. Girl, with a face like that, you don't need hair. And look at that. I cover that. You know, at my age, we got to put it in. Put it on cover as much as cover the arms. I cover the arms.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. My arms are. Now that I don't get spray tans, my arms are always covered. These days I'm like, let's cover these bad boys, these age spots. Here we go.
Dolores Catania
You are good. You are good. Do not. No, that hair. Stop. So good. Beautiful.
Teddy Mellencamp
Thank you.
Dolores Catania
But you do what you want to.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, this episode. So our season seven, episode 14. I was hoping for more. I really thought this was such a. You know, we talk about how we love when housewives fight, and then the housewives fight, and then they have resolution, but this wasn't even that. They just kept everybody separated.
Dolores Catania
Why, though?
Teddy Mellencamp
I don't.
Dolores Catania
Because they didn't want to make up? No.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, no, I think because they didn't want to mess up the virgin cruise. They didn't want to mess up their relationship with Richard Branson. But watching this episode, all I thought was, I want to go on a virgin cruise while wearing Anastasia of Beverly Hills makeup. Like, come on, paid posts. Get it together.
Dolores Catania
Let's go. Let's go. Speaking of cruises, you know my cruise is canceled. It is? They canceled my cruise? Yes. Why? I was supposed to be on with Shannon and Teresa.
Teddy Mellencamp
Okay.
Dolores Catania
And the company said they are canceling for unseen circumstances, which maybe they just didn't sell enough tickets. Oh, gosh. So they. They rescheduled.
Teddy Mellencamp
They rescheduled. Okay, well, get me on one of those soon.
Dolores Catania
Con. Yeah, the next rescheduled one.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, come on. Hopefully I'll be feeling better by then, but. The episode starts off with Marisol and Julia meet for lunch. Julia tells Marisol how in the past she has struggled with her relationship with her daughters. And then Julia tells Marisol that her daughters told her one of her daughters Told her, I love you, I love you, and how much it meant to her. I'm sorry, but Julia not telling her grown daughter she was adopting two boys is as weird as her hair in the scene.
Dolores Catania
I'm sorry, am I not supposed to be laughing? Because this is a fucked up scene. I'm sorry. I'm just gonna say I agree with you. So, I mean, I don't like to judge the way other people parent because if you ask, we never know. I mean, you know, it's every. Everybody's different culturally. She's different. You know what I mean? Like, they're just. Listen, she should have told them.
Teddy Mellencamp
She should have told them from the very beginning, thinking about it. Then they could have talked through it. Then by the time that she actually adopted the boys, they would have all been in a better place. But who knows? They could be annoyed at her about anything.
Dolores Catania
Well, like, you mean when she didn't know what school she went to?
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, I mean, that might have. That might have done it too.
Dolores Catania
There's some things I there. I mean, I don't do. We really don't know the full story. The kids could be just mad about the boys, but, you know, as they.
Teddy Mellencamp
Could have been mad for a while.
Dolores Catania
They could have been mad for a while, but as an adult, kid, child, at some point you say to yourself, am I going to stop being mad at my parents who are. Do screwed up things and just get over it and just. And go with it. Okay, now we have two brothers. Let me not be mad and let me go embrace them. But that's gotta be on them. Of course I understand why they're upset.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. And also, you know, hopefully Julia is, you know, making a big effort with them to show them how much. Cause, you know.
Dolores Catania
Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Part of it could be they didn't know. Part of them could be, you know, they're feeling like, well, what about us? You know, all of those different feelings that kids have. I mean. And listen, I'm no perfect parent. Like, my daughter Dove this morning came in and I didn't answer with her within 10 seconds. And so she peed on my bedroom floor.
Dolores Catania
My dogs do that.
Teddy Mellencamp
Like, I'm not kidding. She goes, mom. And I go, yeah. And she goes, mom. And I was like, yes. And then she goes, well, you took too long. I just peed on your floor. I go, dove, you have a bathroom in your room. Go pee in there.
Dolores Catania
So she was asking to use your bathroom? Yes. But she didn't say yes when she doesn't even have to ask, Does She. No. She have to ask to use your bathroom? No, I think she just wanted an excuse to pee on your floor.
Teddy Mellencamp
I think she. But she did at least do it. Like, there's, like, a little area of rug, and then there's also the hardwood. She at least had the decency to do it just on the hardwood. Oh, do it on the hard.
Dolores Catania
That stains the hardwood. Well, okay.
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Teddy Mellencamp
That was an easy cleanup. But then the best is Cruz was sleeping with me. So then he gets up.
Dolores Catania
He.
Teddy Mellencamp
He doesn't realize what's happening, so he steps in. He steps right in it. He's like, mom, there's wet stuff all over the floor. And I'm like, that's done.
Dolores Catania
And did he have a fit? That's an episode right there.
Teddy Mellencamp
So you know what? When I. When I'm making my commentary about parenting, remember that tomorrow morning. Listen.
Dolores Catania
No, there's no. I was always the last mother at pickup. Always. I almost beat up one of the teachers for saying something about it. She quit the next day. It was a whole thing. Like, my kids can tell you stories, so I have to say that I will never talk about somebody else's parenting. It's so hard being a parent. It is so hard. You should have answered dove sooner.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, it's my fault. I should have said dove. What's up? Do you need to potty in my bathroom? Come on. That's just.
Dolores Catania
So awesome.
Teddy Mellencamp
I'm g to start doing that. Flores didn't answer me, so I peed.
Dolores Catania
You took too long.
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Teddy Mellencamp
Well then Keke and her father meet for dinner. My favorite part about this scene is like fourth wall. What are you talking about? Nope, we're just gonna. We're gonna talk. Keke's talking directly straight to the cameras.
Dolores Catania
But look, if I didn't throw you out on the street in the rain, you would not have these cameras here right now. Look at the contrast though. You have Julia's kids are upset that they weren't told about Their new brothers. And you have Kiki. Just saying, listen, Dad, I want to let you know I forgive you for throwing me out in the street. And he's basically like, I don't care if you forgive me or not. I'm okay with it. I'm just going to eat the lunch you're buying me. But no, you're just like, you have what you have because of whatever happened, basically. I don't want to hear it. Very different.
Teddy Mellencamp
She. He says, you know. You know, they're talking about her getting death threats from her extended family. They think because she's.
Dolores Catania
Wait one second. We need to.
Teddy Mellencamp
I know.
Dolores Catania
Elaborate on this.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. I mean, because they think she's so rich and so famous that she should be bringing them all to America.
Dolores Catania
Literal death threats.
Teddy Mellencamp
This lunch and the first time having a spicy tuna crunch roll isn't going to help things.
Dolores Catania
The salmon. Yeah. No, the sushi is not going to cut it. They're probably going to be more mad that they see what they're eating.
Teddy Mellencamp
I know they're going to. We wanted to try this.
Dolores Catania
Tone it down.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. If I was her, what I'm pretty impressed about is, like, when this season started, she was kind of having the zero relationship with her dad, but they seem like they have a pretty good relationship now because she wants it and.
Dolores Catania
He'S there for it. You know, he looks young. He looks very young.
Teddy Mellencamp
I mean, I think he has a very young child.
Dolores Catania
He does.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Dolores Catania
He does have a young child. But I think for your own healing and what I've also found in my life. My dad's upstairs, so I got to watch how I talk because he want to hear about my childhood upsetness, the things that upset me about the shit that he did. But the. I think forgiving is a part of you healing. If you could forgive your parents. We didn't come with a handbook. I always say, what kind of childhood did my mother have? Or what? Like, what did she know? You only know what you know. And I think we've all come very far in parenting, but there's a lot to be said.
Teddy Mellencamp
There's a lot to be said. But I did enjoy this scene almost as much as I was so awkwardly uncomfortable during the Lisa and Jody talking while Lisa pack scene. Why was that so awkward? Why? I was like, come in the room now. You don't know what's going on.
Dolores Catania
And, you know, it kind of reminded me of my scene when I asked Paul about his divorce. And he goes, if you think I'm gonna marry you, get on one Knee. And then the whole world jumped on him. Yeah, I. I mean, I wonder what kind of repercussion Jody's or she's gonna get or Jody's gonna get. He was just. It was so awkward. Oh, my God.
Teddy Mellencamp
What about when she put her hand on his hand to quiet him during their group conf. Their couple confession?
Dolores Catania
Actually, he's like. He's like, well, we've. You're talking about engagement, but we're like, we don't even sleep in the same room sometimes. She's like, cut.
Teddy Mellencamp
We fight so much. Sometimes we don't even sleep in the same room.
Dolores Catania
So honest. I wanted him to keep talking.
Teddy Mellencamp
I know. I was like, hold on, we need you.
Dolores Catania
This is good shit.
Teddy Mellencamp
Get yourself. Hold on. What's the thing that they have there? A mojito. Get yourself a mojito and get on the show. They're talking more about you.
Dolores Catania
And he's always looks like. He's just like not animated. His face looks frozen to me, no matter what he's saying.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, I don't think he went to her husband, her ex husband for work. No, no, I don't think he went to Lenny. I don't think he used to go to Lenny.
Dolores Catania
I don't. I don't really think so either. But she's like, does Paul get Botox? Oh, Paul gets everything.
Teddy Mellencamp
He does.
Dolores Catania
Paul gets plasma, the whatever shots for his hair. He doesn't even need it. He has more beauty products than anybody. He gets Botox from Dr. Karolac. Yeah, he gets it all.
Teddy Mellencamp
So you don't mind a man that does that.
Dolores Catania
No, but, you know, Paul is so manly. Yeah, he's such a, like rough around the edges guy. Even if he does those type of things, he's still very manly. I think if you're like, you know, I. I like a knock around guy.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Dolores Catania
So even if he does that, he's still like, you know what? He is. He is.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, then, Jody, essentially the conversation is. Lisa is just, you know, bringing up the engagement. And then she's like, my finger is. Feels so light.
Dolores Catania
Oh, it's so light. And I. I like being a Mrs. And I'm. And he's like this. He looked even more like a deer in headlights. His.
Teddy Mellencamp
This was. What if they would have done a still shot of this? It would have been more than the still shot.
Dolores Catania
And actually his face, his actually, his face actually moved. I saw some movement and it was on his face.
Teddy Mellencamp
He couldn't actually believe it.
Dolores Catania
I think he was gonna. I think. Yeah. I think he was nervous. He got a little nervous.
Teddy Mellencamp
Then he said, you know, the first there was all this drama because of Lenny, and now there's all this drama because of the women. You know, like, Jody seems a little high anxiety.
Dolores Catania
You think? Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Like, this is coming from somebody. High anxiety, you know?
Dolores Catania
You know, I'm not an anxious person, but I. If I.
Teddy Mellencamp
No need to brag.
Dolores Catania
Not being it. No, I just. Listen. I don't feel nothing. I'd love to feel anxious. Anxious. I'd love to feel anything at this point. I'm so, like, numb to everything. Not by choice, but, you know, when you go through. So at my age, Teddy, I got a lot of years on you. You don't give a fuck. But. But no, I just feel like. Because you could tell, right? You could tell if somebody's anxious.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Dolores Catania
You felt it from him.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, you could feel it. You could feel him anxious. But she then got embarrassed and then kept going, like, hoping he was going to make it better, but he made it worse.
Dolores Catania
You can't chase the fix.
Teddy Mellencamp
No.
Dolores Catania
It's like bad Botox. When you try to fix it, it just gets worse. Don't chase it. You cannot chase it. And this was a prime example. This should be in, like, the Handbook of 101 Housewives. Don't try to fix the mess that already is. If she would have just liked it off you.
Teddy Mellencamp
I know you want to marry me. Just whatever. We can pretend all you want.
Dolores Catania
I don't want to marry you either. Or I don't want to get married, you know? Yeah. Just, like, try to diffuse it, but it just kept getting worse and worse and worse.
Teddy Mellencamp
It actually kind of surprised me.
Dolores Catania
Men. Men. Men say stupid things on camera.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yes.
Dolores Catania
Because they're not on enough. They're not on enough. Right?
Teddy Mellencamp
They're not on enough. And then they're trying to be honest, but then they're trying to be sincere.
Dolores Catania
And then they just fuck everything up.
Teddy Mellencamp
And then they just go on and say things like, we don't even sleep in the same bedroom sometimes.
Dolores Catania
I was dying. No, I. I actually call. I'm like, paul, please come watch this. Paul likes Jody very much. He likes him. He thinks he's a great guy.
Teddy Mellencamp
He's like, oh, I actually think they were probably just having a rough week. I do see them getting engaged.
Dolores Catania
I don't know anymore. About anything.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, you paused there. You paused.
Dolores Catania
If she. If she wants. If she wants it, she could probably get it off him. I think he's crazy about her, but I don't know. He's like, we need to fix some stuff first.
Teddy Mellencamp
We got a big shit show we're dealing with with Larsa. Who cares? What does that have to do with getting engaged?
Dolores Catania
Nothing.
Teddy Mellencamp
Nothing. That's my point. That the fact that he used the drama within the show as the reason why I was like. It's like the other day, Edwin had an interview with Ralph Pittman, and Ralph said he had no idea that they had issues until she would talk about them on camera. I'm like, ralph, come on. Please, come on. You know, she did not shock you.
Dolores Catania
But then, wait, look, Alexia. Alexia didn't know there was issues. She said, which we. We all saw it. Adriana called it. She didn't know there was issues until he left when she was out to lunch after date night. I know. So people are. They are. They deny. But here's the thing.
Teddy Mellencamp
Are they denying it because they want it to be good camera or like, they want to seem like everything's good, or they're lying to themselves or they're in such, like, denial. Denial.
Dolores Catania
Yeah. I feel like sometimes people are in denial.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, I do too. But then Stephanie and her assistant are packing up goodie bags. Of course, this is done to attend. Like, me packing up goodie bags, like, would be, like, thrown all over the floor. I'd be like, I love a good goody bag.
Dolores Catania
I'm a good. I'm a goodie bag person. I give a lot of goodie bags. Like, if you're coming to the house, you'll have a goodie bag of good stuff.
Teddy Mellencamp
Good.
Dolores Catania
I love goodie bags.
Teddy Mellencamp
I don't want, you know, I don't want a shitty goodie bag if I'm gonna get a goodie bag. I want them to be keepable stuff.
Dolores Catania
I have not. I have my new beauty products and nice stuff.
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh, send me some stuff. And then I go buy a goodie bag. And like, I. I do theme bag.
Dolores Catania
I'm gonna. I'm gonna send you something that's on my list.
Teddy Mellencamp
Okay, perfect. It's on the list. But then Anastasia comes over. Stephanie talks about how she needs to freeze her eggs if she wants to have children in the future. And then Stephanie tells Anastasia how she to the women.
Dolores Catania
Yeah. So let me say something about this, and I'm not going to be very nice about it. Stephanie, let her talk. Just let this woman speak. She's absolutely brilliant. She's amazing. I think that while she was talking, Stephanie was listening, but so excited to hear herself talk that she really didn't let her finish. Like, is it Me or did I see? And it wasn't. I don't think Stephanie knows how to be calm and just take in what somebody's saying to her. She's always got to have that word.
Teddy Mellencamp
She's like, why it would be like. While you were talking just then, all I was thinking about was what I'm going to respond to you.
Dolores Catania
That's what I'm saying.
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Dolores Catania
Instead of. That's exactly what I'm saying. And this woman is so insightful, so beautiful, so accomplished, so brilliant and wise beyond even her years. And what she was saying to me was not being absorbed by Stephanie because Stephanie was so worried about what she.
Teddy Mellencamp
Was going to say and to prove their friendship and to prove how they met and how, like, listen, and the reason Stephanie likes her. What was the reason again? Was it because she said she liked what she did on Instagram?
Dolores Catania
Oh, yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
I was like, no, don't say that's why you were so blown away.
Dolores Catania
Well, she. No, she said she was a fan of her and then she was so taken back when the woman said she liked her. I don't know why the woman likes her so much, to be honest, but I, I want to say I am a fan of her. Now. That woman is class, beautiful, well spoken, wise, and she really. The last thing she needs to do is show up on the Housewives of Miami episode. She don't need.
Teddy Mellencamp
And clearly they must be good friends for her to do that.
Dolores Catania
Friends. There's pictures of them. They speak again. I'm not sure what the connection is, but Anastasia, if you talk to me, you will have my undivided attention.
Teddy Mellencamp
You know what? She probably would appreciated that because she could have. We could have all learned a lot from her in that scene.
Dolores Catania
I might even go back and watch it again just because she's somebody like, I was inspired by.
Teddy Mellencamp
I've always been inspired by her really story. And yeah, like, there's a lot of backstories she could have talked about, but no, no, Stephanie just wanted to be. Wanted to show off.
Dolores Catania
Yeah, this is my friend.
Teddy Mellencamp
This is my friend. I, you know, I. We got it. Stephanie. You're rich. You have famous friends. You have, like, there's a reason that a lot of these women aren't talking to you and there's a reason why your sisters aren't talking to you. Maybe listen, just a touch.
Dolores Catania
I think that. And Stephanie, I'm not saying this because somebody will send this to her. I'm not saying this to put you down. I'm not really saying it in. In A nasty way. I'm saying it because I like constructive criticism. So this is just constructive criticism. That's all it is. You have a lot going for you and it's just something like just to be a listener. I had to teach myself to be a listener. I did.
Teddy Mellencamp
I was on Joy her more.
Dolores Catania
Yes, 100%.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, yeah. We would enjoy you more because you are funny, Stephanie.
Dolores Catania
You're funny, are quick, you're quick witted, you're smart, you got Mahmood by the balls. Love it all. I love how he loves his dogs though.
Teddy Mellencamp
I mean, he loves his dogs, but did you notice when the girls were boarding the cruise? The cruise will one. I was confused. The cruise will start and end in Miami.
Dolores Catania
That's some vacation. Better than ours at the Jersey shore. I'll take it as a cruise that doesn't go anywhere off the dock.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, they all seem to love it. But did you see Stephanie's face?
Dolores Catania
Oh, I did, I did.
Teddy Mellencamp
She had a stank face on about that cruise.
Dolores Catania
And I was like, she had a reeling in though. But you know what, Stephanie? Thank you for making me laugh on that one. I was like, I know what she's thinking. I don't do worth. I don't do buffets. I don't do these.
Teddy Mellencamp
Not a buffet.
Dolores Catania
I ain't doing the buffet with everybody.
Teddy Mellencamp
No.
Dolores Catania
I don't care if it's in the rockstar suite.
Jody
Yeah.
Dolores Catania
I don't with my food all out at the same time.
Teddy Mellencamp
Absolutely not. Well, then Kiki asked Lisa why she's still wearing her wedding ring. And then Lisa tells Kiki it means nothing to her because she wants to.
Dolores Catania
Wear a big fat diamond from knuckle to knuckle. I get it.
Teddy Mellencamp
Look how many I have on.
Dolores Catania
There you go. I, I don't want to wear per, I don't, I'm perfume. I don't want to wear jewelry. I don't care. I have it. I, I, I, it's just too much.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, also, if, how could that ring mean nothing to her? I mean, I'm, I'm gonna tell you, I'm not wearing my wedding ring on a different finger because it does mean something to me.
Dolores Catania
I love to hear that. That is so nice.
Teddy Mellencamp
It does mean something to me.
Dolores Catania
I think it means anything to her. And I believe her did. Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Like three seasons. All we did was talk about Lenny and the idea of wearing a ring that he gave her means nothing to her.
Dolores Catania
No, no. Because they had a different type of life than you, Teddy.
Teddy Mellencamp
It was different. Yeah.
Dolores Catania
And, and the Sentimental things comes with other things. I don't know that there was a lot of sentiment in that relationship.
Teddy Mellencamp
Right, that makes sense. So if it's just an object.
Dolores Catania
100%. I think a lot of things in their life was just an object. It was, it was. It was built on objects. Their life, for me, the way I see it, anyway.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, no, that makes sense. And then Gertie asks Adriana what's wrong and why she doesn't want to celebrate her birthday next week. And then Adriana thinks she's too old to celebrate her birthday.
Dolores Catania
She is an absolute shit show this whole episode. I think she needs an. She needs an iron drip.
Teddy Mellencamp
Does she forget three episodes ago when she was saying that Marisol had sagging eases and was old? And now she's all talking about ageism and doesn't want to have a birthday because she doesn't want to be old? So she was just.
Dolores Catania
How old is she?
Teddy Mellencamp
She looks great.
Dolores Catania
She looks. She's pretty girl. She's a pretty girl.
Teddy Mellencamp
She's 59 years old.
Dolores Catania
Hell. So she's turning 60.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yes.
Dolores Catania
Oh, that's a rough one.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. And you know, we've got a single.
Dolores Catania
60 and single 60 and single. That'll probably. What happened to the French guy?
Teddy Mellencamp
We haven't been hearing much about him.
Dolores Catania
She wrote him the whole first three episodes.
Teddy Mellencamp
I know, but then where is he gonna. He can't be coming on. I don't think that Richard Branson would let him be on this ad of his for Virgin Cruise.
Dolores Catania
Richard Branson. I love all your things. I even like your flights. It has the, the misted stuff. The misted, the. The mist when you get on the plane and the different colors. I mean, it's always the best. I just don't ever fly it. I don't know why.
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Teddy Mellencamp
Then the girls head up to Marisol's Rockstar suite. The girls sit down and Marisol tells them they're all going to split up for dinner.
Dolores Catania
The Rockstar Suite. Listen, if the cruise isn't going anywhere, can we go hang out in the Rockstar Suite? If anybody should have it, it should be you.
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh, thanks. Because that's me.
Dolores Catania
Daughter of a rock star.
Teddy Mellencamp
If it's not going anywhere, and we're gonna just be doing a little.
Dolores Catania
I just want to eat. Listen, I don't mind a buffet. I'm good. I'm no snob. It's buffet. Hey, Paul, What'd you think of Jody in that scene I was telling you about? French. He's gonna get hosed.
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh, he's gonna get hosed.
Dolores Catania
Remember when you got hosed?
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, I remember, Paul.
Dolores Catania
Teddy. Hold on. Come say hi to Teddy. She hosed you. When you. Now it's Jody's turn to get hosed.
Jody
Teddy. Breaking my chops.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. Remember when you said, you gotta get down on one knee and propose to me?
Jody
No, that's not what I said.
Teddy Mellencamp
So what did you say, Daria?
Jody
Say that again.
Teddy Mellencamp
You said something along the lines, if you want to get engaged, you can get down on one knee and propose to me.
Jody
No, what I said was because I was just getting bullied by all these.
Dolores Catania
Little Italian guys and Teddy and Tamara. Yeah. Bravo, con.
Jody
You guys are posting my chops. No, what it was, I said, if I get engaged like today, do you expect me to get on one knee tomorrow and propose to you? That was a silly move. I didn't mean it to sound that way. It was just a stupid Irish move. Pighead. Trying to be stupid and smart, but it backfired because everybody fucking told me how stupid I was.
Teddy Mellencamp
But you know what? Your accent. You can get away with a lot.
Jody
You think so? Because you have no clue what I just said.
Teddy Mellencamp
You Guys are so cute. Look, now she's gonna rip it out before he says anything else. I love how you took it out before he could say anything back.
Dolores Catania
This is what. What Lisa did when Jody was talking. I don't care. He can say what he wants. I'm just like, hey, Paul, you're gonna get host for that one, no problem. No, but I'm transparent.
Teddy Mellencamp
No, you're transparent. And you know what? I love him. And it doesn't mean that I dislike Jody. I just. Jody. Jody.
Dolores Catania
Jody's gonna get it. Jody's gonna be a rough week for you, Jody. And you know who's gonna be on top of that? Our buddy Larsa. She don't let go.
Teddy Mellencamp
No, she. That's going to be big reunion talk.
Dolores Catania
Oh, yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Big reunion talk.
Dolores Catania
Okay. Can we talk a lot of big reunion talk?
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh, I heard there is a lot. We just had Marisol on, and she's told me who she's blocked and all kinds of stuff.
Dolores Catania
Like, I saw she was on.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, yeah. But then I didn't really understand. I. So they said they're splitting up the groups because they said they need to, like, talk. I thought that meant they were going to put people that have issues together, but instead.
Dolores Catania
Well, that's what makes sense. That's what I thought.
Teddy Mellencamp
No, but then one group. So there's dinner, group one, that's Julia, Julia, Lisa, Marisol, Alexia, and Adriana. And then dinner group two is Kiki, Stephanie, Larson, Gertie. I don't get it.
Dolores Catania
Yeah, what's the point?
Teddy Mellencamp
I don't get it. I'm like, let's talk hints and big. When he's like, I don't get it. Like, I don't get it.
Dolores Catania
But whatever. Whatever.
Teddy Mellencamp
Well, Lisa makes a comment about them being late to dinner. And then Lisa tells the group Jody never did anything wrong, and Larson needs to leave Jody out of it. And then Alexia tells Lisa that Jody needs to leave himself out of it. And then Alexia thinks Alexia jumped on that.
Dolores Catania
Oh, Alexia was like, your boyfriend. Because you know why? Everyone's got a lot to say about Todd. Now it's her turn to say something about. But I don't remember Lisa saying a lot about Todd, do you?
Teddy Mellencamp
I don't either. No, Lisa's too obsessed with Lisa, 100%.
Dolores Catania
So Alexia, like, who. Who's been, you know, very cordial considering, like, Stephanie. The first time Stephanie went off on her, I would have ripped her to shreds.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Dolores Catania
And she was, like, nice about it. After the fifth time, she finally spoke up. But but yeah. So Alexia went in on Lisa's. Jody.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, she went in on it. Alexia also was taking the late thing. She's like, just because I'm late one time and you're multiple hours late a bajillion times. Shut up. Just leave it. Sometimes you should know better.
Dolores Catania
Just.
Teddy Mellencamp
She's sharing a bathroom with. With Marisol. Like, maybe they needed to take turns or maybe she wanted to take a poo. Leave her alone.
Dolores Catania
So what? So, you know, she's not three hours late like Lisa was for 10 years.
Teddy Mellencamp
She's not making them sit on a shuttle. They're on. Like, don't make me sit on a.
Dolores Catania
Shuttle with a bunch of women. It gets really.
Teddy Mellencamp
I get really edgy on a shuttle. On a sprinter van. I don't like a sprinter van or a shuttle. And it's always hot in there.
Dolores Catania
Musty.
Teddy Mellencamp
Musty. But nothing really happens at this dinner, at either dinners for me. We still don't get really very much information about why Adriana shows up.
Dolores Catania
Half dad. Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Adriana's like. Adriana's either tipsy or she's just Xanax.
Dolores Catania
Maybe she's got to medicate through the birthday. I don't know. Maybe the French croissant left. I don't know.
Teddy Mellencamp
She's really. She's not happy. She is.
Dolores Catania
She's miserable.
Teddy Mellencamp
You know, maybe she's.
Dolores Catania
I could speculate.
Teddy Mellencamp
Okay, speculate.
Dolores Catania
Maybe she. Maybe she feels like she has no friends because her and Julia were friends. And who else is she really close with besides Gertie? Kind of.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah. I mean, but Julia is such a. Try hard. I'm like, just find somebody else then. I don't know why Julia rubs me the wrong way so much this season.
Dolores Catania
She rubs a lot of people the.
Teddy Mellencamp
Wrong way, but she's always rubbed me the wrong way. Cause I've always felt I haven't believed her stories.
Dolores Catania
You know what? You're very. If you don't believe you're one of the people. If you don't believe somebody, I'm going to not believe them, too. Yeah, because you're rarely wrong. How come you're like that?
Teddy Mellencamp
I think. Listen, I'm not gullible. I will make mistakes a million times, but if I have a gut instinct about somebody, most of the time that's accurate, even though Matt, our producer's laughing at us right now. But, like, I very rarely have the wrong gut inst. About somebody's.
Dolores Catania
Or you just say everybody's lying, and then sometimes you're right. You know what?
Teddy Mellencamp
Fuck off, Dolores. A liar knows a liar.
Dolores Catania
Everybody's full of shit. So at some point it sticks.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, I mean, but like I just. There's something. I don't know, but this. These two dinners to me are a complete snore fest. But no, it's not. Larsa thinks there's such a snore fest that when she gets back to her room, she facetimes Alexia, Marisol and Julia. Two hours after dinner she jokes that she needs to take photos for OnlyFans. And then she's feeling frisky and she starts like showing off her stuff.
Dolores Catania
They have to like Marisol and Alexia.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yes. You didn't see this part.
Dolores Catania
Where was I at this part? I don't even know. Oh yeah, go to bathroom or something.
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh yeah, you missed it. She's tipsy, she's showing it all off. I'm like, so is this third episode for Larsa's like, is this an ad for.
Dolores Catania
It's an ad.
Teddy Mellencamp
Larsa's only fans.
Dolores Catania
Well, I mean, how many only fans subscribers watch Housewives?
Teddy Mellencamp
I'm sure a lot. Think about how many husbands probably watch Housewives with their wives.
Dolores Catania
I don't know about that many. I don't know.
Teddy Mellencamp
I think a good amount. I think a good amount, but I don't think she's hurting in that. But I wonder if Bethany. They got the Bethany clause for that.
Dolores Catania
Wait, you know what? They should get it if everybody else gets it. Her only fan should be friggin.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, I know. Going through the roof, then Stephanie, then it's the next day. I was happy to see Larsa tipsy. I wish she would have been with the entire group. Tipsy in front of everybody and we would have had a good episode.
Dolores Catania
Yeah, that would be good. I want to see a bunch of drunk bitches. That's what I want to see.
Teddy Mellencamp
Me too.
Dolores Catania
I want to see Stephanie drunk. Loosen up.
Teddy Mellencamp
Loosen up. Steph. She can't. Because she can't even believe that she's on. She can't believe where she is at this moment. It hasn't sunk in. And then she's counting down the minutes like so instead of thinking what she's going to say next, she's counting down how many hours until this trip is over.
Dolores Catania
It's the one time she's actually thinking of. Not about what she's saying next, but the minute she gets to step off this cruise.
Teddy Mellencamp
But she shows up to Maricel's room in an 80s workout outfit with her mic showing, which drives me nuts. Like it was like poked out. Like I was like, should she have a third nipple? Because it was like a poke out right here. But then I was like, oh, it's the mic. It's the mic. But it was driving me nuts. But she gives one to Marisol. Marisol's like, I'm not working. I didn't bring shoes. Like, I'm going to have to wear my chocolates, which is flip flops. And Stephanie brings up what happened with Marisol and Alexia not coming on the plane. And Marisol tells her that she really likes her, but wants to know who she is, not what she is offering. That's a good way to put it. If only we were so eloquently spoken.
Dolores Catania
We're not. And we're. And we're criticizing Stephanie. Stephanie, I just want to say. I'm not saying it because I think I'm better. I'm just saying it because I expect you could be better. Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
But also, Stephanie, I implore you, I beg you, start wearing your hair natural more often. Because I thought she looked beautiful. Just natural. I don't need, like, a severe boss bitch all the time. Because she looked so beautiful in that scene where she was, like, just in her workout clothes and it was, like, her natural hair. She looks stunning to me.
Dolores Catania
She's pretty. She's 40. She's pretty.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah.
Dolores Catania
She's got a lot of money. She takes care of herself. She should look good.
Teddy Mellencamp
But then we get a flash forward.
Dolores Catania
Out to eight hours, a husband that kisses her ass. I mean, these things all contribute to looking good.
Teddy Mellencamp
True. But then we get a flash forward to eight hours later of Alexia telling Stephanie how bothered Marisol was. Then a flash forward to the next day of Stephanie telling Adriana that Marisol is a jealous demon who disguised herself as a loyal friend. She tells Adriana that you're gonna come for her. You better hit a bullseye, because when it turns. When it's her turn, she doesn't miss. Oh, that's another one of those ones that I bet she was thinking about what she was saying when somebody else was talking. Yeah, I know. It was very close to something Bethany has said before. I think Bethany said, if you take a shot at this bee, you better not miss. So it's. It's kind of similar. Oh, yeah.
Dolores Catania
Someone's doing their homework. You think or.
Teddy Mellencamp
I think nobody.
Dolores Catania
Yeah, but, I mean, listen, there's sayings that we don't own. If we say it once, it could be said again. But I think that Stephanie has spent time watching thing the show, and yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yeah, I think she's done her research, but either way, I'm happy to see that. That was in the flashback. Flash forward because it means that we're going to have a good episode next week.
Dolores Catania
I'm looking forward to it. Yeah.
Teddy Mellencamp
No more separations. No more keeping the peace. No more Adriana falling asleep at the table. Let's go, ladies.
Dolores Catania
Having a rough time. Are they gonna have a birthday party for her?
Teddy Mellencamp
Who knows? Does anyone even paid attention that she's upset?
Dolores Catania
I don't think so. I mean, it's. They kind of left her drooling at the end of the table like that. I'm like, okay, just, you know, Gertie went, checked on her to check their pulse. But outside of that, nobody cared if she was late. No one felt looking for her.
Teddy Mellencamp
I mean, no one even knew she was there.
Dolores Catania
No she was missing and they didn't even know when she showed up.
Teddy Mellencamp
No one bothered to even look over. She. Honestly, she. Maybe she's very, very seasick on Dramamine or something.
Dolores Catania
But how? The boat didn't move. How do you get seasick on a boat that's not moving?
Teddy Mellencamp
It does move around Miami.
Dolores Catania
I think it moves okay. I mean, I don't know, but I think. I think that was old footage. I think it was old footage. I think it was a green screen.
Teddy Mellencamp
You think they just got on and stood still?
Dolores Catania
I do. I can't breathe. I think that's what happened. Oh, I would bet money on it, I'm telling you.
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh, my gosh.
Dolores Catania
I hope somebody leaks that Richard Branson's.
Teddy Mellencamp
Yacht never moves from the station.
Dolores Catania
Only when they're on it. He didn't want to waste the gas on the Housewives of Miami. He didn't get to where he is because he's stupid. He's like, put the there, don't move this boat.
Teddy Mellencamp
And then just leave all the dishware on one table and give them a puppet.
Dolores Catania
Oh, God.
Teddy Mellencamp
Oh, I made this laugh. Oh, my gosh. Well, thanks you guys for tuning in to another episode of Two T's in a Pod.
Dolores Catania
I love you guys.
Teddy Mellencamp
Love you. Talk to you later.
Dolores Catania
Bye. Thank you. Bye.
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Episode: The Virgin Diaries (RHOM Recap)
Date: September 5, 2025
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Dolores Catania (Tamra off this week)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts
In this lively Housewives breakdown, Teddi Mellencamp and guest co-host Dolores Catania (stepping in for Tamra Judge) recap Season 7 Episode 14 of The Real Housewives of Miami (RHOM). They dish on parenting fails, medical updates, Bravo drama, and especially the quirks and conflicts of the cast’s much-hyped—but drama-light—"Virgin Cruise." The result? A warm, gossipy, and candid Housewives deep-dive, peppered with inside jokes and candid life chats.
Teddi and Dolores have a witty, candid repartee, seamlessly moving between Housewives breakdowns, real-life anecdotes, and playful critiques. They keep it light with a signature dose of Bravo-insider humor and self-effacing jokes about parenting and reality fame.
While this RHOM episode underdelivered on drama, Two Ts In A Pod made up for it with candid banter, inside scoops, and relatable Housewives wisdom. Minor spats, awkward relationships, Botox truths, and group dynamics are all on the table—and so is the hope for bigger fireworks next time.
Stay tuned for next week: Will the ladies finally confront their issues instead of circling the buffet?