The Yawn Heard Around Atlanta (RHOA Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: The Yawn Heard Around Atlanta (RHOA Recap)
Release Date: May 21, 2025

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Introduction

In the latest episode of "Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge," hosts Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge dive deep into the intricacies of Season 16, Episode 11 of "The Real Housewives of Atlanta" (RHOA). This episode, aptly titled "The Yawn Heard Around Atlanta," unpacks the drama, friendships, and personal struggles that unfolded, offering listeners an engaging and insightful recap.

Recap of Season 16, Episode 11

The episode begins with Angela and Charles having a tense lunch where Angela attempts to address conflicts involving her sister and daughter. According to Tamra, Charles is pushing Angela to distance herself, seemingly indicating underlying tensions. Teddi observes, "Charles doesn't like Angela," suggesting that their interactions hint at deeper issues within their relationship ([05:21]).

Shamia and Portia's friendship takes center stage as they navigate their personal and on-camera dynamics. Shamia expresses feeling blindsided by Portia bringing up their relationship issues publicly, particularly highlighting past rude comments Portia made about her singing abilities. Tamra points out, "Portia's not been very supportive of her," indicating a potential strain in their longstanding friendship ([07:35]).

Analyzing Character Dynamics

Angela and Charles

Angela's dedication to her family is evident as she grapples with her responsibilities towards her sister and daughter. However, the lack of support from Charles raises questions about the future stability of their relationship. Teddi notes, "She looks at him and she's always smiling, but when she tells someone off, she's smiling too," depicting Angela's complex emotional state ([06:37]).

Shamia and Portia

The hosts delve into the evolving dynamic between Shamia and Portia. Shamia's frustration is palpable as she confronts Portia about her dismissive behavior, especially during emotionally charged moments. Tamra remarks, "Shamia came to the sit-down ready to work, and Portia came to move the forks around the table," highlighting the disparity in their approaches to conflict resolution ([15:12]).

Teddi adds, "Portia is very covetous of her spot, and nobody comes between that," suggesting that Portia's focus on her position within the show may be jeopardizing her friendships ([09:56]).

Family and Personal Struggles

The episode sheds light on Portia's daughter grappling with her parents' divorce. Angela's emotional conversation with her mother, who is moving out of the house Angela purchased for her, underscores the personal sacrifices and familial tensions at play. Tamra empathizes, "It's really hard, but it's a hard thing to hear, period, that your kids are going through something that is changing them and they will act out," emphasizing the challenges of maintaining honesty with young children during turbulent times ([22:21]).

Predictions and Host Insights

As the conversation progresses, Teddi and Tamra speculate on future developments within the show. They express uncertainty about Nene's potential return to the series, with Tamra stating, "I'd be surprised if she came back," given the recent tensions ([27:45]). Additionally, they discuss the possibility of Portia and Shamia's friendship enduring Bravo's intense environment, with Teddi hopeful yet cautious: "I hope that their friendship sustains the test of Bravo," ([34:53]).

Notable Quotes

• Teddi Mellencamp: "Charles doesn't like Angela." ([05:21])

• Tamra Judge: "Shamia feels like she downplayed the rude comments and times Portia has been a bad friend to her." ([07:35])

• Teddi Mellencamp: "Portia is very covetous of her spot, and nobody comes between that." ([09:56])

• Tamra Judge: "A real friend when they want to make up with you, they'll take that." ([16:00])

• Tamra Judge: "All she wants is for it to be more natural on camera between her and Portia." ([13:57])

Conclusion

In this comprehensive recap of RHOA Season 16, Episode 11, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge provide listeners with an in-depth analysis of the complex relationships and personal struggles faced by the housewives. Their insightful commentary, backed by poignant quotes and keen observations, offers both fans and newcomers a nuanced understanding of the episode's key moments. As the season progresses, the hosts anticipate further drama and development, keeping their audience eagerly awaiting the next unraveling of friendships and alliances within the glamorous yet tumultuous world of Atlanta's elite.

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Stay tuned for more episodes of "Two Ts In A Pod," where Teddi and Tamra continue to dissect and discuss the latest happenings in the Real Housewives universe and beyond.

Transcript

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Hey guys, welcome back. Another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself and Dolores. Today we are going to recap season 16 episode episode 11 of Atlanta. Before we get started, we need to.

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Guess who comes on next week.

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We've been waiting for Phaedra.

Phaedra.

Come on, Phaedra.

Girl.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Wait so long for Phaedra.

[Tamara Judge]

So yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, did I see Andy post something about the Atlanta reunion is coming up here pretty soon?

[iHeart Podcast Host]

No, but did you see the Summer House reunion outfits? I didn't really like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, you didn't? Well, I didn't really. When did you see them on set? Yeah, because they. It was made out to be like a bed.

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Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So I thought it kind of. I kind of liked it.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I didn't really like it.

[Tamara Judge]

Very pastel.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

It was pastel. You know, it's just I'm not used to them wearing clothes so they had a lot of material.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, they should just came in bathing suits.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

They should have came in in their little nighty pajamas that they wore all season. So I'm not used to them having so much material on. I would have thought like I'd wear something like that.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm actually, I'm excited to watch the season finale of Summer House.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I know. I can't wait to See Frankie Funicelli on it?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, that's right.

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That's right.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God.

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Do you know for sure.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you know for sure she made it on?

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I mean, she had to have. I mean, her friend was talking.

[Tamara Judge]

Did she sleep with. I would say, did she sleep with Jesse?

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Not my. Not my Frankie. No, she would never do that.

[Tamara Judge]

All right, well, let's get into Atlanta. So it starts out with Angela and Charles. Go to lunch. Angela needs to talk to her sisters about her sister's conflict with her daughter. Charles wants Angela to have more distance and not keep giving her sister so many chances. It feels like they're trying to get us to think. Charles doesn't like Angela. I mean, the confessional they do together.

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And they were then, like, kiss me. And he's like, why.

I think this is a case?

[Tamara Judge]

I'm not. I'm just. I'm just saying this out loud. I don't know what you have to.

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Say, because I. I don't know if you see what I see, but go.

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Well, I just feel like he's not into the mess of the show. Like, he's like, you talked me into doing this damn reality show. I'm not into this. Why are you doing this to me? This is stupid. Like, I don't.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I might be wrong, but he just.

[Tamara Judge]

Seems like he's just not into filming.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

So. Okay, what do you think?

[Tamara Judge]

You think he's a dick?

[iHeart Podcast Host]

That. That. I think he could be a little bit of a dick to her. I think he could be nicer to her. Like, you know, so maybe he's not into filming, but can you be a little affectionate? Like, she looks at him. Like, I don't like her. I don't like the way she is around him. I. I feel like she's on edge around him.

[Tamara Judge]

She makes a form, too.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

She's overcompensating. I think she's crazy about him. She, like, looks at him and she's, like, always smiling. But she tells. When she tells someone off, she's smiling too. Like, she's hard to read. You're a. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

You're such a whore.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Like, you have miles and wrinkles around your mouth. Like, but. But, you know, I just feel like she's nervous around him. I don't like her energy when she's around him.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Yeah, I can see that.

So pretty. She's beautiful. Her body is, like, amazing. She handles herself like a woman. Maybe she's not that well liked on the cast for some reasons, like they say, but I. I happen to like Her.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I like her, too.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I think the. I think the fans like her, too.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, she's. She's a good addition to the show. Then Cynthia and Shamia go for drinks. Shamia didn't sleep last night.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

She.

[Tamara Judge]

She's feeling blindsided by Portia bringing up their relationship in front of the other woman. Shamia feels like she downplayed the rude comments and times Portia has been a bad friend to her, such as Portia's comments about Shamia's singing. And they did flashbacks where, you know, she's like, oh, that's Drew. And if they. They've been best friends for a long time, I'm shocked that now seeing it going, oh, yeah, she hasn't been very supportive. Portia has not been very supportive of her. No, not at all.

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I don't think so. I think. I think that Shamia is an amazing friend. Listen, let's face it. Shamia does not need this show. She never needed the show. So this has been going on long before Shamia was on the show.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think there's a. There's a part of Portia that's like, I come back and now my best friend is also on the show at the same level as me. Like, we're both holding peaches, and I.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Think that way, and I don't like when people think that way. I don't like not bringing a friend carrying them along with you.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, sometimes it's hard to have a friend on the show and. But the one thing that bothered me the most is when they sat down and they were talking and she's like, well, why are you different on camera than. You know, why? Shimmy is asking Portia, why are you different on camera than you are in real person? You know, real life? Like, why can't you just be the same person? Which makes me believe, like, oh, okay. There's certain level of Which I get. Of course, she's a. The girl on the show that. That moves storyline and gets things going and I don't know this year. No, I know, but I normally.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

She is so.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

She was a princess. She came on with nothing. She made it really fast. She's beautiful. I mean, her body's, like, insane. Like, sometimes I'm like, it's not like, what. What's going on with her ass and her. And her waist is this big. It's like, I don't even know where to look. I'm like, oh, my God. But, you know, she. She became like a phenomenon. And I think that in this world, Tamara, you don't think there's jealousy with who?

[Tamara Judge]

Between. Not Shamia's side, but Portia's side. Do you think there's jealousy between the two?

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I think. No, I don't think it's jealousy. I think it's more like Portia is very covetous of her spot, and nobody comes between that, you know, And Shamia's doing amazing. Shamia has an amazing storybook life. Beautiful house, nice husband, she's talented. She has her own money, she has her own career outside of the show. And Shamia made it very clear. She goes, these cameras, they don't mean shit to me. Me, this friendship meant something to me, I'd like. But I've had friendships like that before, like Shamia and Portia. I've been the Shamia many times in my life. So I see and I understand. It's very familiar to me when I see what's going on here.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, to Me and Portia's mom have been friends for a long time, too.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I didn't know that they were falling out.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, big. They had some big ups and downs.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Nobody wants to talk about what it was. I'm dying. Enough.

[Tamara Judge]

Shamia won't talk about it. She's like, I'm not going there.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I'm dying to know.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. So Cynthia, Angela and Portia go bowling. Portia's daughter has been struggling with her divorce.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Wait, we have to go back. Sorry. Because there was a big point about when they were sitting down at lunch. They were. She said, first of all, Shamia is so angry. You know when you're. When you're sitting across from that guy that just you over so many times, and you're just looking at them like, yeah, you're done. I'm done. I'm done with this. So she had that look. Shamia took Portia, and I think Portia felt it. And then she said. And you even had to bring up what your mother said about me. I was just saying what my mother said. Well, I want to repeat what my mother said about my best friend on camera. If she wasn't nice.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

So there's a lot of. Here. Sorry, go ahead.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, let's continue. Let's jump down to number seven, where Shimmy and Portia are meeting up for lunch. And let's continue this conversation since we're on there. Shamia says there's a lot of issues in their friendship that she masks. Portia is upset that Shamia discussed things with her other. With other women. Portia yawns and Shamia says, am I.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

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Sometimes, you know, some people laugh when they're nervous.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I think that at this point, I think that Portia was very self aware of the things that she has said and done. She did.

[Tamara Judge]

I think she was nervous.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

She was nervous.

[Tamara Judge]

She was nervous.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

You don't want to hear it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And she didn't have an answer for it. Shamia was not having it with her non verbal cues, as she said. She says they're dismissive.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I mean, I saw a woman that was fed up. She is fed up.

[Tamara Judge]

She is fed up. And she's upset because she wants to salvage the friendship. Portia's not really giving much answers. She's just kind of shuffling around the silverware and then she ends up going to the bathroom. And, you know, she may ask questions why her relationship with Portia is different on camera.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

But, you know, and then also Portia was like, I'm going through a lot right now. And Shamia looks at her and goes, we all are. Which everyone's going through something. Look what Shami is going through. She has a daughter who's been through all these surgeries and she's doing great now. Shiloh. But she's been through it. She's, you know, gone through a lot with the surrogate. Like, you know, everybody's problems are relative.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

And, you know, I'm gonna be honest. I was introduced to Shamia's and Portia's friendship at watching Shamia's birthday. And she showed up late and was.

[Tamara Judge]

That's right.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

And I wasn't. And you know, I was like, no apologies.

[Tamara Judge]

Just shows up late. Yeah.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Not late, two hours late.

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And blame it on a couple hours.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Late and then jumping in the, you know, taking her moment when she's getting in the Rolls Royce. And you know, I was like, okay.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, according to Shamia, all she wants is it for to be more natural on camera between. Between her and Portia. Portia replied, they have to pay me more for that. So that statement right there to me is like, what? They have to pay you more to be natural?

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I mean, with all due respect to Portia, I think she needs to pull in her horns a little bit on. On her status on the show. Don't get too big, don't get too cocky because there's always somebody bigger. And sometimes people who started back when think that everything revolves around them, but it doesn't Always.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, in the past season, Shamia barely had any confessionals, so we never heard her point of view on things. I think that is why Portia feels a little bit uncomfortable now, because she's worried that the audience might not be on her side. And I feel like she's a very strong personality.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

It doesn't have to be a side or a side between them. They could stick together. But I think that Portia needs to be more of a friend to Shamaya. That's it. Sorry I said it. I did feel like, because I like.

Portia, but I like Portia too.

[Tamara Judge]

I love her. But Shamia came to the sit down ready to work. She wanted to, like, try to fix the this, and Portia came to move the forks around the table, and she.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Was getting called out.

[Tamara Judge]

Getting called out and then go to the bathroom. So I, I, I'm, if I had a side with one of them during this, I would definitely side with Shamia. I think that she's like, listen, I want to get to the bottom of this. And Portia's like, what, What? What's the problem? I don't even know what the problem is.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Tamara, she was so nervous, and, and, you know, she, honestly, she doesn't have that fight in her that she used to have. Thank God for this friend, their friendship, because. Because if that conversation would have went south, we'd be having a different few next episodes. I want to see if she, if Portia spends more time with Phaedra. When Phaedra comes on and kind of dumps Shamia, I don't know what's going to happen.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, wow.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Good call.

I want to see how that works out. That's, that will be very telling. This will be a very pivotal moment for what I see in their friendship. But, yeah, so, I mean, I don't, I didn't see her give, give that same reception to Shamia in any point in this episode when Shamia walks through the door, you know, So I, I just, that's kind of my prediction. I don't know, but I hope it's. I'm wrong.

[Tamara Judge]

We're gonna see.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

We're gonna see. We're gonna see next week. I cannot wait. But as far as the whole, you know, when Portia sincerely said, I don't want to fight with you and I don't want to lose you, and let's cut it. Let's, let's just figure this out, that was enough for Shamia, because you want to know why, Tamara? I'll tell you why. Because a real friend when they want to make up with you, they'll take that.

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[Tamara Judge]

Now they got their food to go because things weren't working out well and then they ended up hugging and everything's better.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Portia's exhausted.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. Do you think they got their. They're like, never mind, we want to eat our food now.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

No, they left. No, they left. Portia's exhausted. That food looks so good Though, so good.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. Just thinking about makes me hungry. Well, earlier in the episode, Cynthia, Angela and Portia go bowling. Portia's daughter has been struggling with a divorce with Simon, which shocks me a little bit because they weren't together that long, were they? For her to be like Papa in.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

The life of a kid, it's a long time.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

She's just a baby. That's who she saw every day. That's who she went to sleep seeing. That's who she woke up seeing.

[Tamara Judge]

But at what point does Portia tell her daughter, like, you know, papa's not coming back, or papa moved out, or, you know, because she's too young to really, truly understand maybe.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

You know, I think being honest and saying hard things to kids is so hard. But they already know they're smarter than we think. You never know what's going on in their heads. And they need to know. They need to know the truth. And that's the hardest thing, I think. I was divorced probably three years before my daughter said to my husband, you don't live here anymore. And he goes, how do you know? She goes, because your clothes aren't in the closet.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, they know. They know. They know more than we think. They know so they hear more than we think.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

But why she had to deduct that in her little brain and her little head and, you know, like I said, the whole thing with Drew and, and, and her mother sitting down with her, but.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, well, let's jump into that. FaceTime. There's a FaceTime and a sit down, too. So Ralph wants to be part of Drew's llc, so he wants part of that. Drew says she was providing for the kids 100%. She doesn't know the details of Ralph's accounts because they're separate for a living, I don't know. But she did insinuate that he makes good money, but she's also saying they had everything.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Money at some time. I don't know how much she makes singing. But what.

[Tamara Judge]

That. What the dick wad about changing the key code to the house so she couldn't get in and at one o' clock in the morning, had to get a hotel room.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

You know, I. I don't. I don't understand that. Especially when it's a tumultuous relationship. They should not be in the same house. You know, that energy when, when you live with someone that you don't like or you don't get along with or that you need. It's in the air. And, yeah, it's not Good for the kids. And. And Drew's mother, preacher mom, is right. These kids were not being thought of when that decision was made.

[Tamara Judge]

Her mom knew that things weren't where things were bad, so she flies in to support her.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

She called her cry, like she called her crime to mom, pray for me. You know when your kids call you up and say, pray for me, you get on a plane.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they're two years into this divorce, and he's still living in the same house.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Like, no financially dreaming. Draining. It's emotional draining.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Drew was not happy, and I think she didn't want this. On camera, when Drew's mom thinks the kids are out of control and acting out because of the divorce, she's like, no, we're not talking about this on camera. I'm walking away. I'm walking away.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Put the toothpaste back in the tube. I know that's a hard thing to hear from your mother. Yeah, it's really hard, but it's a.

[Tamara Judge]

Hard thing to hear, period, that your kids are going through something that is changing them and they will act out.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Moms worry. Moms worry about their kids. Moms worry. They say, you're only as happy as your saddest kid. And her mom is worried for her. But, you know, like a good grandmother, like a good nana, like my mother, the kids come first. And as much as my mother loves me, my kids come first. So when I was going through my divorce, my mother's first priority until this day are my kids.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. The way it should be.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So then Angela meets up with her mom. Her mom lives in a house Angela bought for her. Her mom is now moving to a new house to have some more independence. Angela's sad because she wanted to continue taking care of her mom.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Angela's mom passed away recently. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

She just.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Going to DM her. That's terrible.

[Tamara Judge]

Really sad. Especially when, you know, she.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I don't know if she had resolution. I hope she had some resolution with her mom in that conversation. Her mom was moving out of the house that she bought her. And Angela's like, but, mom, I want to take care of you. And the mom's like, but I don't want you to have to take care of me.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, it sounds like the mom also does not care for her husband, but. And then she brings up the age and all that.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

But no, well, yeah, that, too.

[Tamara Judge]

But she said she loves. She said she loved him or something.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

The mom said why she didn't like him because he wasn't talking nice to her in front of her mother, she said, you're my daughter. I have to stick up for you.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah, kind of like.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

And the mother was not wrong. What mother? You know, she wants to keep the peace. But he said something to her, and she said it. The mother said it.

[Tamara Judge]

Now, do you think that Angela will be back next season? I just feel like her husband's just not into this at all.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I don't know. I think he'll be back. I mean, it's not. He. He doesn't have to do anything. He just has to. Oh, no, no, no, no. They get. Do I think Nene will be back from that orange.

[Tamara Judge]

So it was Cynthia that said the only time she's had a falling out with a friend, it was Nene. And so this is the second time they've referenced Nene. And it always just makes me think, like, are we gonna see Nene? Is Nene coming back?

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I thought that I wouldn't be. So I would be surprised if she came back.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I mean, with everything that went down, I'd be surprised.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I don't think so.

[Tamara Judge]

But I heard rumors that she was asked to do traders. I don't know if that's true.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I think I heard that too.

[Tamara Judge]

So to me, it's like, I don't.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Know because, you know, I would be surprised.

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[Tamara Judge]

So, okay, so we have a few fan thoughts. So Porsha and Shamia needed Cynthia at the lunch as a mediator. At the end of the day, they made up. They found their way. They've been friends forever. I think they'll be fine.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

I'm not so convinced yet that they're made up. I think there's a lot of bad water under the bridge.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, everyone has a lot going on besides Brit, who I don't care about. Somebody said. Another one said Portia was awful to Shamia. So dismissive. Another one. So many fourth wall breaks during this conversation. There is a power dynamic in the relationship.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Okay?

[Tamara Judge]

And Portia, that's what I keep thinking. I keep thinking, like, something like, there's a power struggle. Portia's always. Every time she's been on this show, she's always been top dog.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

That's true.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

She doesn't want to lose that spot. Is doing very well.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, she's doing very well. Very, very well. Like, she is. Like, I. I think I asked her. I'm like. My response was like, why are you.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Just now a housewife?

[Tamara Judge]

Like, you know, she's been on and off the show for many years, but this is the first time she's in a housewife. Like, she's.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Why is it the first time now?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I don't know. I can't remember what she said, but, like, holy hell, she's meant for this job.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Well, you know, and also, she's a novelty. She's new. We've seen Portia for so long, and now you see somebody new and shiny coming in cars, in her house.

[Tamara Judge]

She was a friend. Like, she. She was on the show. Like, we'd see her, like, as. I don't know if she had an official friend role or she would just be at events. I'm not sure, but this is the first year that she's an actual housewife.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

And she's beyond before.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, maybe not. Maybe the husband didn't. Maybe she was just fine doing what she was doing.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

She acted like she wasn't something that she wanted to do before. I think it was always open for her.

[Tamara Judge]

Mm.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

But. And you know what?

[Tamara Judge]

Let me ask you one damn good job did.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Was it Portia's suggestion to bring her on, or was it just that the producers kind of like.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know, because I don't think.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Portia pushed for her to be on.

[Tamara Judge]

Portia came back. This is her first year back, so it's not like Portia was in the mix at the time. You know, isn't like Portia was on last year. And it's like, hey, next season, I think you should bring Shamia on full time. So I don't know. Who knows?

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Well, I hope that they. Their friendships sustains the test of Bravo.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Bravo time. I hope it does. Well, I hate to see that. And even Cynthia was like, I hate that when friendships go down the tubes because a group of women pit them against each other, you shouldn't be able to do that.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I don't see Shamia turning on Portia at all. And in fact, it was Shamia's birthday, I think, last week.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

No, she said she won't. She won't do it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah, she wouldn't do it. And she, like Portia, said happy birthday to her, you know, publicly on social media and stuff. So it looks like they're back on track as of now.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Okay, well done.

[Tamara Judge]

All right, well, thanks, guys.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

Keep it that way, girls.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Thank you guys for tuning in next week. We're super excited because our girl Phaedra will be back in the mix, and it's going to be an exciting.

[iHeart Podcast Host]

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