Titty Tape (RHOP)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: "Titty Tape (RHOP)"
Release Date: January 28, 2025

In the "Titty Tape" episode of Two Ts In A Pod, hosts Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge delve deep into the latest season of The Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP), unpacking the drama, relationships, and pivotal moments that have captivated fans. This detailed summary captures the essence of their lively discussion, highlighting key topics, insightful analyses, and memorable quotes from the hosts.

---

Introduction and Personal Check-In (02:03 - 04:30)

The episode begins with Teddi and Tamra sharing personal updates, setting a relaxed and relatable tone. Tamra candidly discusses her struggles with anxiety and her attempt to manage it with CBD tincture, leading to a humorous exchange about feeling "loopy."

Tamra Judge (02:26): "I could cry at any given moment... I just have this weird really bad anxiety."

Teddi Mellencamp (02:49): "So now you're high?"
Tamra Judge (02:50): "Not yet."

Housewives Headlines: Bravo News and Alumni Updates (03:31 - 04:22)

Teddi transitions the conversation to recent headlines from Bravo, specifically highlighting Mia and Gordon's flight to the Bahamas with their children. The hosts express confusion over the relevance of this headline but pivot to more significant news about NECA, a former alumna, who is expecting her first child after two years of trying to conceive.

Tamra Judge (03:54): "NECA is going to be a mom. After two years of trying..."

Teddi Mellencamp (04:17): "Congratulations. We're happy for you guys."

Bren Whitfield's Rolling Stone Interview and Aaron's Response (04:20 - 08:22)

A major focus of the episode is Bren Whitfield's exclusive interview with Rolling Stone following the explosive season finale. Bren discusses the events in Puerto Rico and her standing with the cast, which ignites a fiery response from Aaron. The hosts analyze Aaron's comprehensive reply, emphasizing his feelings of being misrepresented and his frustration with media portrayal.

Teddi Mellencamp (05:01): "Aaron responds, saying we are sisters is quite the reach. We haven't spoken or seen each other in months."

Aaron's Statement (06:56): "Respectfully, fuck off."

The conversation highlights Aaron's emotional turmoil and supports Bren's perspective, with Tamra expressing sympathy and concern over the unnecessary public airing of grievances.

Tamra Judge (07:10): "I don't think it was necessary for Bryn to do the article with Rolling Stone magazine. It's just so icky."

Navigating Social Media and Public Support (07:32 - 08:35)

Teddi and Tamra discuss the pitfalls of engaging with social media during conflicts, noting how it can exacerbate situations rather than resolve them. Tamra shares her attempt to reach out to Bren, receiving a heartfelt response, which underscores the importance of support among cast members even amidst drama.

Tamra Judge (07:55): "I feel bad for her. I really do. I even sent her a message... She said your words meant a lot."

Relationship Dynamics and Reunion Speculations (08:21 - 26:33)

The hosts delve into the intricate relationships within RHOP, particularly focusing on Mia's tumultuous relationships with Ink and Gordon. They analyze Mia's motivations, her inconsistent behavior, and the impact of her actions on her relationships.

Teddi Mellencamp (33:04): "But exploiting your children's paternity and husband's mental illness is not a cool storyline."

Teddi and Tamra speculate about upcoming episodes and the anticipated reunion, predicting intense confrontations and the potential reconciliation of long-standing relationships.

Character Analysis: Stacy, Giselle, and Karen (27:10 - 42:49)

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the interactions between Stacy, Giselle, and Karen. The hosts critique Stacy's handling of conflicts, her loyalty, and the perceived manipulation by other cast members. They also examine Giselle's strategic moves to stir the pot and Karen's role in the group's dynamics.

Tamra Judge (38:41): "She may or may not have been bitten by a dog. I know I may be lying or something like that."

Teddi Mellencamp (38:46): "Stacy's getting hazed for not going along with the OGs..."

Strut for Strays Charity Event and Group Tensions (37:45 - 42:49)

The "Strut for Strays" charity event becomes a focal point for group tensions. The hosts critique the event's execution, Stacy's exclusion, and Giselle's underhanded tactics to maintain control over the group's philanthropic efforts.

Tamra Judge (41:44): "She was kicked out."

Teddi Mellencamp (42:05): "She wasn't allowed to go in the event."

Final Thoughts and Episode Wrap-Up (42:49 - 44:26)

As the episode nears its end, Teddi and Tamra offer their final assessments of the season's developments, expressing anticipation for the reunion and concluding with light-hearted banter about personal relationships and future episodes.

Tamra Judge (44:03): "She [Kiara] is holding on to that for three months."

Memorable Quotes

• Teddi Mellencamp (07:07): "Save it for the reunion."
• Tamra Judge (26:12): "Two T's. Tape and Taint. Welcome to another episode of Tape and Taint."
• Teddi Mellencamp (36:05): "There's more to this story."

---

Conclusion

"Titty Tape (RHOP)" offers an engaging and thorough analysis of The Real Housewives of Potomac's latest season. Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge provide insightful commentary, balancing humor with critical examination of the show's intricate relationships and dramatic moments. This episode is a must-listen for RHOP fans seeking a deeper understanding of their favorite housewives and the dynamics that drive the series forward.

Transcript

[Jon Stewart]

If you love your phone but not your carrier, just switch to T Mobile.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You can keep your phone, keep your.

[Jon Stewart]

Number and we'll help pay it off.

[Tamara Judge]

Up to $800 per line.

[Jon Stewart]

You can also use our savings calculator to compare our plans and streaming benefits against Verizon and AT&T. So switch and keep your phone, keep your number and keep more of your moolah. @t mobile.com up to four lines via virtual prepaid card.

[Arturo Castro]

Allow 15 days qualifying unlock device credit.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Service port in 90 plus days with.

[Jon Stewart]

Device and eligible carrier and timely redemption required.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Card has no cash access and expires in six months.

[Jon Stewart]

Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at the Daily show, which means he's also back in our ears on the Daily Show Ears Edition Podcast. Join late night legend Jon Stewart and the best news team for today's biggest headlines, exclusive extended interviews and more. Now this is a second term we can all get behind. Listen to the Daily Show Ears edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danny Trejo]

You should probably keep your lights on for Nocturnal Tales from the Shadow. Join me, Danny Trehov and step into the flames of Fright, an anthology podcast of modern day horror stories inspired by the most terrifying legends and lore of Latin America. Listen to nocturnal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[AJ Stephens]

$1.4 billion in NFL quarterback contracts the untold stories behind the biggest deals in football history. I'm AJ Stephens, Vice President of Client Strategy at Athletes first, introducing the Athletes First Family Podcast the Quarterback Series. My co host Brian Murphy, Athletes First CEO and I are sitting down with the agents who have negotiated contracts for Justin Herbert Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott Tua Tuga Wall Jordan Love. Listen to athletes first family podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Two teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge. Hi guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Tamara Judge oh God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How's it going?

[Tamara Judge]

Not great. Could be mood. No, I just have like this weird really bad anxiety and like I could cry at any given moment and I went to go take tincture of CBD and I took the one that has full spectrum in it instead of the one that doesn't. So now I'm probably going to be like a little loopy in a minute.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So now you're high?

[Tamara Judge]

Not yet.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well that's great because we have three hours of podcasting I know, I know.

[Tamara Judge]

I'll get it together. I'll get it together.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. I feel, like, sleepy, I think.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, really?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. I'm like, all morning. Like, even I was, like, dragging ass on the peloton. Like, just, just. I'm in. I'm in the slow go. You know, I think I. I need one of those days where you just don't do anything.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I had that happen in Big Bear, so I just did nothing. But I'm home now, and I didn't work out this morning, and I got in the sauna instead. I'm gonna go work out later today, which I hate doing, but I just couldn't get it together today.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, it's early. Well, let's get into some housewife headlines here. The first one is from Bravo and cocktails on a flight to the Bahamas right now. Mia and Gordon and the kids are also on it. To me, I don't even really know why this is a headline.

[Tamara Judge]

I think, well, because that's not all of it. Somebody wrote and they're in coach.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So.

[Tamara Judge]

It'S a little bit of shade. Oh, and they're in coach. So neca, we haven't heard from about NECA in a long time. And she is going to be a mom. So after two years of trying the real house of Potomac alumni, NECA is going to be a mom. Over two years of trying the real house. Potomac alumna is and her husband, the doctor, are pregnant with their first child.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Congratulations. We're happy for you guys.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes, yes. Congratulations.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This next one is. Aaron just responded to Bren's Rolling Stone interview. This is from Queens of Bravo. So it starts off because there's the Real Housewives of New York City star Bren Whitfield on that explosive season finale. Whitfield speaks exclusively to Rolling Stone about what went down in Puerto Rico and where she stands with the cast today. I mean, if you're going to do an article, I mean, getting it in Rolling Stones pretty good. But then Aaron's response, it's going to. I'm going to take a couple deep breaths and have some water because it's so long. Give my readers.

[Tamara Judge]

Matt, what were your thoughts on her? I think this launched the same night or the next morning after the season finale aired.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I mean, I think she was a lot. She was like, I'm in damage control. But Aaron responds, to say we are sisters is quite the reach. We haven't spoken or seen each other in months. Other than Bren thanking Abe for clearing up the intention for the call. I really wanted Bren to win so bad. I was excited to watch her shine like I'm with all my girlfriends. Each woman on the show is special and smart, excited for us collectively. But Bryn always had all this childhood trauma that I was particularly excited to see her break free from. Yet here we are, an article doubling down. Instead of saying, hey, I messed up, it's upsetting to read for all of you viewers. Can you imagine how it feels for us? The show is supposed to be fun. It's all I tried to do throughout. Yet somehow things kept getting twisted and turned and I will take ownership that I very much was naive and fell victim to much manipulation. I swore I wouldn't comment, but this article is so triggering to me and I just can't stay silent. And to all you troll, the few I've seen, most of you have been supportive and amazing all season during an incredibly hard time for me. So thank you. Trying to put me in some sort of bucket because of the color of my skin. Honestly, F you. I spoke out when she called UBA an angry black woman, and I was the only one who heard the SA story that night and immediately said, no way. That doesn't sound like Uwa. She wouldn't forget that. Which led to the she didn't clock it comment. I'm not saying I'm perfect, but I'm fair and I stand up for what's right and what counts. So respectfully, fuck off.

[Tamara Judge]

She said, respectfully, fuck off.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Mm. Respectfully, fuck you, Tamara.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, God, not right now. I'm too fragile. Do you think this was necessary?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. I mean, save it for the reunion.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, that's kind of how I feel. I don't think it was necessary for Bryn to do the article with Rolling Stone magazine. It's just. It's just so icky. And Bryn's talking a lot on social media, like she's just doing stories like nothing ever happened. I think sometimes in a situation like this, just take a beat. Just.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Just take a beat and let.

[Tamara Judge]

Take a beat. Get off Instagram. Get off. Just take a beat.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, it's easier said than done. I think people, you know, they want to get their point across if they feel like it wasn't properly conveyed. But then what you end up doing is most of the time, you look like a big. You know, you can take this advice because both me and Tamara have done it, made ourselves look like bigger assholes because we didn't stay off social media.

[Tamara Judge]

But if you're getting, like, I'm sure Brent's getting attacked on social media. Like to me it's just best just to put it down, turn it off, don't engage. And she's not doing that whatsoever. No, I mean, I feel, I feel bad for her. I really do. I even sent her a message. Tough episode to watch. You know, it sorry that you've. What you went through and I hope that, you know, things are okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did she respond?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, she did. She said you're me. Something like your words meant a lot. And, and you know, I do, I feel sorry for her. Did she screw up bad at the reunion? From what we saw? Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Finale.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I mean, at the finale. Yes. But you know, we haven't seen the reunion yet. I haven't heard how it went down. And it's probably most people that didn't even watch the season are definitely going to be watching the reunion.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, they're gonna tune in. I wonder, is it a three parter? Do we know that answer yet?

[Tamara Judge]

I think it's two.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, well, only a two parter after that kind of an ending is.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but the ending was the entire, you know, the best part of the entire season as far as I'm concerned. So there wasn't a lot to really talk about. Were they going to talk about pranks And I did pigeons. Yeah, Pranks and pigeons.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Know who did take a little Instagram break and then came on to announce some news? Allie.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She laid low. She kept it. You know, I'm sure that I think I. Classy. Well, it's not even about classy. Yes, but like I think she wanted to process her feelings. Right.

[Tamara Judge]

But she could have easily gone on social media and. Or did interviews and said horrible things about him and. But she didn't. So I feel like that takes a certain level of class.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. And I think. But also she, she gave her time to process and decide what her next steps are going to be.

[Tamara Judge]

Who doesn't love the good things in life? Even though I enjoy little luxury, it doesn't mean I can always afford it. Until I discovered Quince. Quince is my go to for luxury essentials at affordable prices.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Quince offers a range of high quality items at prices within reach. Like 100% Mongolian cashmere sweaters from $50, washable silk tops and dresses, organic cotton sweaters and 14 karat gold jewelry.

[Tamara Judge]

The best part is that all Quintus Items are priced 50 to 80% less than similar brands.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

By partnering directly with top factories, Quint cuts out the cost of the middleman and passes the savings onto us.

[Tamara Judge]

And Quince only works with factories that use safe, ethical and responsible manufacturing practices in premium fabrics and finishes. I love that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

If you haven't tried Quince's cashmere, you need to from sweaters to cardigans. They are so comfy.

[Tamara Judge]

Give yourself the luxury you deserve with quince.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Go to quince.comteddy for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's Q U I N C E dot com Teddi to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.comTeddi hi, I'm Arturo Castro and I've.

[Arturo Castro]

Been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Roadhouse and so many commercials about back pain. And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly guys, I I don't feel the space is crowded enough get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians to tell them a buck wild tale from across history and time. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zoe Chow.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Titanic, Charles Manson, Alcatraz, Assada Shakur, the sketchy guy named Steve.

[Arturo Castro]

It's giving funny true crime.

[AJ Stephens]

I love storytelling and I love you. So I can't wait.

[Arturo Castro]

Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jon Stewart]

Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at the Daily show, which means he's also back in our ears on the Daily Show Ears Edition Podcast the Daily Show Podcast has everything you need to stay on top of today's news and pop culture. You get hilarious satirical takes on entertainment, politics, sports and more from John and the team of correspondents and contributors. The podcast also has content you can't get anywhere else, like extended interviews and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to The Daily show here's edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast podcasts.

[Danny Trejo]

Welcome. I'm Danny Thrill. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter Nocturno Tales from the Shadows presented by iheart and Sonoro. An anthology of modern day horror stories inspired by the legends of Latin America, from ghastly encounters with shapeshifters to bone chilling brushes with supernatural creatures. Take a trip and experience the horrors that have haunted Latin America since the beginning of time. Listen to Nocturnal Tales from the Shadow as part of Michael Tura Podcast Network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Kristen Davis]

Hi, I'm Kristen Davis and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? In 1997, my life was forever changed when I took on the role of Charlotte York on a new HBO show called Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in New York City, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now I want to connect with you and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes together with special guests. What will begin with Sex and the City Will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. Are youe a Charlotte? Is much more than just rewatching our beloved show. It brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor, and of course, some optimism. Listen to Are youe a Charlotte? On the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She writes, this is in regards to James Kennedy's arrest over domestic violence. It's from Best of Bravo, but she posted on her Instagram, thank you all for your support and kindness. I am happy that prosecutors decided to not file against James as I never desired criminal charges. We had an argument outside of his home related to him drinking again. However, I was not physically hurt. I was shocked by the headlines and disheartened by how the event was portrayed. We are no longer together, but I'll always support James and wish him the best with his sobriety and healing. Thank you for understanding.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I hope he gets the help he needs because this is just not a one time situation from what we've heard.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. And I hope that she has the strength to not go back even if he does get sober.

[Tamara Judge]

She seems like a pretty smart girl.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, we all make mistakes.

[Tamara Judge]

She's just so cute and sweet. He's always kind of an odd couple.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

I was hoping that she would, you know, rub off on him and.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I think there's only so much somebody else can do for you. You have to do stuff for yourself. Then we get into season nine, episode 16 of Real Housewives of Potomac.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you actually catch Mia on watch what happens live?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. What was it?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, basically what happened was, you know, she got questions about the paternity test and she just talks herself in circles and the guest that was there wasn't putting up with it. Neither was Andy. It was quad married to medicine and Andy just wasn't Putting up with it. He was just like. You get the look on his face is like, okay, Mia. Okay. And Quad was actually interviewing Mia about her lies.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But also, she said Ink thinks the show is bad for his reputation.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes, she said that he has a 20 year. No, he's not DJ. What is he? Radio announcer?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Radio VJ or something? I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

And Quad goes, didn't you have this job before you guys started dating? Or you've been hooking up all this time? So all of a sudden now I. I mean, obviously it's not true. There's got to be another reason why they broke up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, Mia confirmed that her and Ink are still not currently together. She revealed that he felt like their brands were not aligned, which led to the split. What does that even mean? What brands?

[Tamara Judge]

Does she have a brand?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Her purse.

[Tamara Judge]

Their personal brand is her brand. Housewives. And his brand is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I guess they mean, like, her reputation there.

[Tamara Judge]

And her brand is Jerry Springer.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I. Oh, by the way, that documentary is so good.

[Tamara Judge]

Somebody reached out to me and said that I was in that documentary. Hold on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I watched that documentary. I don't remember seeing you in it.

[Tamara Judge]

Really? I'm like, what? They're like, yeah, sorry.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Icon. Queen. I don't remember Gina's face. Oh, maybe I did see that. Yeah, I did. I saw that.

[Tamara Judge]

Wow.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm so immune to seeing you do like that. That it didn't even. I didn't even. You know what? I didn't clock it.

[Tamara Judge]

You didn't clock it. Damn. Damn. I've made it, but been associated with Jerry Springer.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's good. And you kind of love Jerry Springer.

[Tamara Judge]

What was it? What is it on, Tim?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ask me questions. I know the answer to. I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I put it in a little.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's on Max. It's on Max.

[Tamara Judge]

Probably don't have that. I'm too cheap. It's on Netflix.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I can share my account. As of now, Edwin hasn't deleted it, so it could still, oh, let's share it.

[Tamara Judge]

Or let's sell it. Like Ramona did to her. Her Twitter. Oh, hear that?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. What is this?

[Tamara Judge]

Either Ramona was hacked or she sold her Twitter. People are saying to some big corporation. But I think, what does one get.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

For selling their Twitter? I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I was like, damn, that could be a retirement.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't ever need to go on Twitter again in my life. If somebody wants to pay me the big bucks from my Twitter, I know.

[Tamara Judge]

They'Re saying the CEO of BlackRock bought.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It, but she did not sell it because it's back to Ramona Singer.

[Tamara Judge]

Either way, she has been hacked. Somebody sent me that information. I'm like, you sure she's not hacked? No, she sold it. I'm like, okay, well, that's why you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Always got to wait.

[Tamara Judge]

Send it to me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Isn't it funny how people are constantly.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Sending us things that half the time aren't true? Mia says she found out the paternity test a week ago. And Karen says Mia knew and was painting Gordon like a nut and playing with their emotions. Mia says they should question if Raven is Ray's child.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, damn.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh. And then Stacy seems to take Mia's side, questioning why Karen would do this at Ashley's event. Do you think Stacy should have stuck up for Karen Moore? In this moment?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. Stacy sticking up for Mia was. To me, it was totally disappointing. Mia brought her kids into this group first. It wasn't like. Like, I understand what Stacy was saying, but Mia had brought her this situation up. Was it been, like, two years she's been talking about the paternity of her kids?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, but I actually Button is the one that brought it up.

[Tamara Judge]

She's still talking about it? Well, yeah, in the way she's wanting how she. And. And she even said and seen. Could be he, could be Inks. I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And at one point, she said, the fathers, the fathers.

[Tamara Judge]

But how come Stacy didn't go in hard when brought up Giselle's daughters? If it was.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know. I think that Stacy's a little slow to the pickup on, like, what the stories are and what we're going with. Just kind of like her mediation and her divorce. Huh? Huh? Oh, you mean I should ask her child support? Like, I'm like, are you. Stace? Stace, let's have a real conversation. I don't know who your husband is, but he's going to meet somebody else. And Ashley gave you some sound advice that you didn't take, if he hasn't already. Yeah, but Ashley, I love that she's like, you know, we see her doing her. Her surprise show, but then she's like, what weight drama went down that I didn't have to help stir up shit. Give it to me at my own event. Like, thank you. She's like, this is gonna air. Appreciate, everybody. What about Kate Chastain makes an appearance?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, at first I'm like, is that Kate?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Which is so weird because Kate lives in Florida, so maybe she's close with Ashley.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, she did chat Room with Giselle. That show that I don't think exists any longer. So maybe she's close with Giselle. But, I mean, it was funny to me that they never showed Kate talking. We just had to, like, be like.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they never do you know how that works when you bring somebody from another show on your show? You're like, oh, my God, there's Tedd. Oh, my God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And then they're actually got speaking parks on Orange County. Oh, I got speaking parts. You are.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I got.

[Tamara Judge]

One thing that is not special and I don't ever want is residue on my taint.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hold. Tell me about residue on my taint.

[Tamara Judge]

Explain it. You know what your taint is, right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know what a taint is. Tape residue. Okay. That I.

[Tamara Judge]

Tape residue. Yes. I don't like, not say tape.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I, I just, I, I, I was getting tape and tank. There were so many T words, I was getting lost.

[Tamara Judge]

Tape on a tangent.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, it's like when you wear those little butterflies on your nipples or whatever to, like, so that you don't have that you don't show your nipples through your clothes. And then, like, if you leave them on too long, then all of a sudden you're like, well, hold up. I got residue on my nips.

[Tamara Judge]

Two T's. Tape and Taint. Welcome to another episode of Tape and Taint.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Tape and Taint. Here to serve.

[Tamara Judge]

Ashley looked really cute.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ashley thrived in this role.

[Tamara Judge]

And then when she ripped that shirt off.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Holy.

[Tamara Judge]

Those titties are. Oh, they're everything.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Some good tits.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. It made me wanna.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was gonna say, Tam, you're about to go back in and get your.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm gonna go back in and get them done because.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And grab your old tits so they can put them back in. Save a couple.

[Tamara Judge]

They're probably moldy inside. They're like 30 years old.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, ma'am.

[Tamara Judge]

But she did this in front of her uncle and her mom, like her new boyfriend. Did she in front of your dad? What if you did that in front of your dad?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm in trouble with my dad because I haven't called him back in two days. Like, so me even getting on stage and ripping my shirt off is not even something I could consider. Like, he sent me a text. He's like, call me. And I was with Slate all weekend. And then I got back and I'm with the other kids. So then last night I'm like, hey, Dad, I love you. I just want to tell you I'm going to call you when I finish podcasting. Tomorrow morning with Tam, because I have a couple hours without the kids. I could tell he's fucking pissed because you want to know what his response was? What's. What's a bigger response than K. Whatever.

[Tamara Judge]

Thumbs up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thumbs up, thumbs up.

[Tamara Judge]

So now you're. Now you're nervous. Well, I know, like, we've talked about this. Like, certain outfits he doesn't like you to wear.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

He still thinks you're, like, 14.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He. Yeah. I mean, clearly, with my young face, I'm just. So that's it.

[Tamara Judge]

Thanks to your doctor.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thanks to my doctor. Paid me, gave me that good, good neck. But then Giselle, Karen and Ashley. And so we get through the whole drag thing. Ashley asks her boyfriend to check out her dick.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, he.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, he's a cutie. I kind of hope that they end up together because they're such an odd couple. Josh. Yeah, Josh.

[Tamara Judge]

Josh.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I like him.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, haven't we seen pictures on her Instagram recently of her and Josh after.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The dating show I Am Uncle? Well, we definitely saw paparazzi pics. I'm unclear if she posts pictures of him on her Instagram because my algorithm only shows me people that I've, like, recently liked. A photo from, like.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, mine only show me guys with hair transplants, which I have no idea where that came from.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Mine's motivational speakers.

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe it's Kaden. Maybe Instagram.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hair transplants.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I have a dumb question.

[Tamara Judge]

What is it?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do men and women both have taints? I mean, I know it's the area between the front part and your butthole.

[Tamara Judge]

It ain't. It ain't the kitty, and it taint the butthole.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay? So everybody has a. Taint that little space in between. Okay? So you don't have to have a penis or a vagine. You can vagine. Vagine.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a very fancy vagina.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Mine is very fancy.

[Tamara Judge]

I've seen it. It ain't that fancy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Don't be jealous just because your Wiki feet score is lower than mine.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, we're gonna hear this all the time.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah. Oh, boy.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm gonna start taking pictures of my feet and making sure they're really pretty. I'm gonna edit them and put them out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You're gonna face that.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm gonna face. I am the Hollywood. Hollywood for my feet.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You go ahead and why don't you send them to Alicia Hochstein and ask her to do some editing on that, because it's going to take a lot of work to get those feet up to five stars.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. Well, you remember when Meredith used her feet to touch her husband's taint in the bathtub?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I'd like to forget that, but thank you now for scarring me. As we finish off then, Giselle, Karen, Ashley, and Kiara meet for lunch. Kiara gets emotional, saying that she and Greg had a huge argument about her being a part of this group. I'm surprised they're letting her use this, even though it kind of, you know, makes sense, but it's really breaking the fourth wall.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. I do. Do you like it or not like it?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't really mind. I mean, I think, to be honest, respectfully to Greg, I think he'd be an asshole whether they're on the show or not. So he can blame it all he wants, but he. I think he's controlling, and the idea of her having control or financial control or anything, I think is alarming to him.

[Tamara Judge]

But don't you feel like him hating the show and not wanting her to be on the show is drawing more attention to the relationship and making people ask more questions, like, what is he afraid of? Why doesn't he want her on? Is it because he's protective because she got hit in the head with a bottle? Or is it he doesn't want to put his. I don't know, their fiance behavior on behavior out there. He doesn't want to put her out there to make her, you know, a star. What is it. What is it that Greg doesn't like about the show?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, the part that they can do.

[Tamara Judge]

Whatever they want with your image. Yeah, I mean, the part he's not getting paid. Is that it?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, it could really be anything. But what I did like to see is that the women, especially Ashley supporting Kiana, especially since she literally, like, bled for this show.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Did you. Did you notice? Ashley finishes her show. It's very cute. And the girls were so happy to run up to her and go, me as a lion. Mia's a lion.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

They couldn't let the girl take a drink. And they went up to her and, like, just like that. Me is a liar. And Ashley. Ashley had a big reaction.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Of course she did.

[Tamara Judge]

She's all pumped up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She's on her adrenaline from, like, her show. Like, she's feeling all the feels.

[Arturo Castro]

Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Roadhouse and so many commercials about back pain. And now I'm starting a podcast because, honestly, guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians to tell them a buck wild tale from across history and time. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zoe Chao.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Titanic, Charles Manson, Alcatraz, Assata Shakur, the.

[Tamara Judge]

Sketchy guy named Steve.

[Arturo Castro]

It's giving funny true crime.

[AJ Stephens]

I love storytelling and I love you. So I can't wait.

[Arturo Castro]

Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jon Stewart]

Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at the Daily show, which means he's also back in our ears on the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. The Daily show podcast has everything you need to stay on top of today's news and pop culture. You get hilarious satirical takes on entertainment, politics, sports and more from John and the team of correspondents and contributors. The podcast also has content you can't get anywhere else else, like extended interviews and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to the Daily Show Ears edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danny Trejo]

Welcome. I'm Danny Thrill. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter Nocturnal Tale from the Shadows presented by iheart and Sonoro. An anthology of modern day horror stories inspired by the legends of Latin America. From ghastly encounters with shapeshifters to bone chilling brushes with supernatural creatures.

[Kristen Davis]

I know you.

[Danny Trejo]

Take a drift and experience the horrors that have haunted Latin America since the beginning of time. Listen to Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows as part of Michael Tura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Then Mia picks up Ink and Ink says Gordon texted him about the paternity test results, but Ink doesn't believe Gordon took the test. Mia questions why Gordon got the test done behind their backs. Ink wants to set wants Mia to set up boundaries with Gordon.

[Tamara Judge]

Can we just talk about this setup scene for one second?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I can't. I can't.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, it was so fake. First of all, they're dressed like they match and like a suit in an evening gown to go pick up at the airport. And then he's like, oh, I like your fit. I'm like, ew.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I also just want to let anyone know now that I'm back in the dating world, I am never picking anyone up from any airport unless I've birthed you I am not.

[Tamara Judge]

Take a damn Uber.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Get your ass in an Uber. Do what you need to do. But, like, I. That is not who I am. And I also don't really even understand people that are that way.

[Tamara Judge]

You know what bugged me? A lot of things bugged me, but especially today. But when he started talking about how he wanted to take Jeremiah to a ball game, it just bugged me. I feel like, you know what? It's. It's too soon. Stop trying to act like you're his father in that sense. And I feel like that's what he's doing on TV to like, yeah, I'm his father. Like, yeah, I'm going to take him to a game. Oh, I'm going to do this. It's just kind of like you're crossing a boundary.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It feels like Mia. But also, I think the problem is, and where we're having such a disconnect is I think Mia wants Ink and Gordon. I don't think she's happy with just one of them. I think it's the combination.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. But with all this, she talks about Gordon and how he's unstable and bipolar and she's constantly. Throw him under the bus. What is it about him that she does? Like?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think, is he.

[Tamara Judge]

Does he. Is he supporting her?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I think she pays for him. Allegedly, is what we've been led to believe. But I think, you know, he's. He's there. He's a constant. He's her children's father. Yeah, Allegedly.

[Tamara Judge]

We don't really know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I think. I mean, I think Mia has had some abandonment issues, and I think letting go and setting up clear boundaries isn't something she's super comfortable doing. I mean, clearly she's been on and off with ink for years.

[Tamara Judge]

But exploiting your children's paternity and husband's mental illness is not a cool storyline.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. But then Stacy invites Ashley to the Humane Rescue Alliance. Stacy is hosting a fashion show Strut for strays. Stacy says she's bonded with Ashley since they are both going through public divorces. Ashley says she may have to file a public claim against Michael for her divorce.

[Tamara Judge]

Is that because he's not responding?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Let me read it again. Ashley says she may have to file public claim against Michael for her divorce.

[Tamara Judge]

Usually you have to do that if he's not responding divorce papers, which is weird. And, oh, my God. Unemployed Stacy still talking about waiving child support.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Even the dogs are like, bitch, someone please get her to secure that money. She ain't thinking right.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, one Line, I always tell my friends that are getting divorced, you never know who you married until you divorce them.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And also, why would you. In, in any stretch of the imagination, why would you choose spousal support over child support? That is the one thing that you want to have organized for the kids for the rest of their life.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. But spousal support, doesn't that usually end when you remarry?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So she remarried a year later than she's with tj.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. She gets nothing. And then there's no, you better hope.

[Tamara Judge]

TJ gets a good movie.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But the fact that she believes that no matter what, her ex is gonna, you know, continue paying for the lifestyle of her Arabella makes me very nervous for her. Like, yeah, of course you want to believe that, that the father of your children is always going to do the.

[Tamara Judge]

Right thing, but, like, it doesn't always happen.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What's the. But also, what's the pain? And then just putting it in writing.

[Tamara Judge]

There's more to this story.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

There is something. And he's holding it over her, and she's going along with it, in my opinion. Then Kiana wants to talk about their argument, and Greg doesn't Eng. Greg tells K to go with the flow and calm the f down. And then Kiana gets emotional, explaining she feels dismissed by him. Gray says he's not dismissed her feelings. I, I.

[Tamara Judge]

But I gotta love dismissing her feelings right there at that very moment.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's what I was gonna say. I gotta love the irony of Greg saying he doesn't dismiss K's feelings while in the middle of freaking dismissing her feelings.

[Tamara Judge]

This guy's a tool.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

His sunglasses. Nah.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, the flip flops. Why'd they zoom in on his flip flops?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know when they zoomed in on the mandals. I mean, you realize on my hinge.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think you're gonna get a five?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He's not gonna get a five, but the only thing it really says on my hinge profile is don't even reach out if you wear mandals. Mandles like a leather sandal on a man. She's fine with a pair of rainbow flip flops, but like a mandal out to dinner.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't really like. I don't really like. I don't really like seeing nice feet.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It depends on the feet, but I just don't.

[Tamara Judge]

I just. I don't. I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Something tells me that we'll be seeing a single Kiana holding a flute next season.

[Tamara Judge]

How long has she been dating him?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Two years, I think she said then we get all the women coming to meet for Strut for Strays. I gotta say, it's not a great name. Not a great name.

[Tamara Judge]

Strut for Stray. I thought it was cute. Strut for Strays.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But then Karen declined. They're meeting with Vivian, who we previously met with at the beginning of the season as Karen's friend. Giselle says Karen introduced the group to Vivian, and Stacy should have let Karen know. Stacy says she's known Vivian longer than Karen, And Giselle tells Stacy that she was shocked she's even into charities since she didn't donate to hers.

[Tamara Judge]

She was doing the most in this scene. It was a little too much in normal circumstances. I mean, Stacy knows this woman and has known this woman. She knew her before Karen. Explanation about using a designer. She has no longer than Karen. So I don't understand what Giselle. She's just stirring the pot. And I will tell you, her confessional was kind of hilarious.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What'd she say?

[Tamara Judge]

I may or may not have been bitten by a dog. I know I may be lying or something like that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, Well, I love that. Like, what essentially is happening is Stacy's getting hazed for not going along with the OGs that want the show the way the OGs want the show to go. So they're like, okay, we're not happy about it. So now, Stacy, you're next.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Giselle was a little bored. She just had to stir the pot, which I totally appreciate.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Then, in a scene that I didn't need to see, Wendy is Preparing for season two of the Dr. Wendy Show. Stacey and Mia meet for lunch. Eddie says he got off the phone with the White House. Wendy is going to film an episode interviewing the White House press secretary.

[Tamara Judge]

Is it that easy to just call up the White House?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know what I call. I talked to the White House this morning.

[Tamara Judge]

Let's try that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Let's also show you this. That came onto my phone. Somebody's called me from a correctional facility. Their name sounds like Mer. And they'd like me to press 1 to have a conversation and 2 to decline the call. I'm like, who? It's. It sounded like Merce, Like Merce from the purse. But the fact that I won't even pick somebody up from the airport. I ain't picking you up from jail.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I don't normally. Me and Eddie had this conversation yesterday driving home. He says, have you talked to so and so, like, a friend? I went to high school. Have you talked to this person? I go, I don't talk to people on the phone. I am offended if somebody calls me. I don't want to talk to you. There is a thing called texting, and I'm perfectly happy with that. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And if I'm going to talk on the phone, it's because I have ample amount of time in the car alone. And that's when it works for me.

[Tamara Judge]

That's when I work. That's when I talk on the phone. Is in the car. I know it's bad, but it's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's like, yeah, I can't. I can't know. Like, I'm not. It's going to be a chore right now to call my dad. And also after the thumbs up, passive aggressiveness, like, I can't even deal with it. Then Stacy says that Karen told her to avoid Mia because she's not Potomac and not to be friends with Wendy because she's self absorbed. Mia questions if driving into a tree and having multiple DUIs is Potomac. Wendy says she wants to share this moment with Karen. And Stacy says that Karen wanted to poison her against Wendy to make. Make sure she'd stay loyal to her. I mean, I knew Stacy had it.

[Tamara Judge]

And look at Stacy being a housewife. But do we believe her? Do you think that's true?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Why is she holding on to that for three months?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because now she's pissed because she wanted to have Karen strapped for strays. And Karen said, no, I'm not going. And then Giselle, just to be. Now that she's close with Karen, also said, no. And you could tell there was a moment there were, like, Stace was, like, about to cry. Like, she had to pull.

[Tamara Judge]

She was either gonna cry or she's gonna tear someone's face off. I'm like, oh, that's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I don't think she was gonna. Look, you could feel like. Like embarrassment and sadness. Like, she was like, what the fuck? I cannot believe.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I think it's kind of shitty even if they don't. They're not happy with Stacy to not walk in it for charity.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. And also.

[Tamara Judge]

And I think it was kind of shitty for Giselle to say, like, Stacy didn't donate to her charity. I'm like, you never know what somebody's financial situation is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I think Stacy's financial situation is just fine if she's not asking for child support. But I do think she was kicked out.

[Tamara Judge]

She was kicked out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Remember, she wasn't allowed to go in the event.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yes. Yes. Giselle's event. Yeah, that's right. So maybe if she wasn't kicked out, she would have. She would have donated.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. I mean, I think the look we saw on Stacey's face was, oh, my God, I just realized what show I'm on and now I'm gonna have to put my big girl panties on and fight. And so then she starts it with Mia. She starts giving the little crumbs that she's gotten before she joined the show and they go at it.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I appreciate Stacy housewife ing up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, me too.

[Tamara Judge]

I think Kiara, she's like that at the reunion. And did I hear that next week is the season finale?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You may have, but I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it is. That would make sense then. Has there been a time this season where Mia hasn't thrown Gordon under the bus?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm sure she'll take ample time throwing him under the bus at the three part reunion.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think she feels ridiculous now that her and Ink are not. Her ink is not forever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

Her ink is not permanent.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I should say no, because I think this is all. I think it's all a plan. I think she'll be back together with Ink. I think Ink and her have been, you know, moving in and out for 20 years. I don't think they're over. I think they're trying to.

[Tamara Judge]

It's just craziness to me to think that she's been back and forth with him for 20 years and she's been married to Gordon for how long?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, over 10, right?

[Tamara Judge]

It's like. Or get off the pot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, you gotta pick one pick. But we don't want to have to sit there and watch the stage scenes with both of them. Thank you though.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thanks guys for tuning in to another episode of two T's in a Pod. We will be back later this week covering all the things.

[Jon Stewart]

Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at the Daily show, which means he's also back in our ears on the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Join late night legend Jon Stewart and the best news news team for today's biggest headlines, exclusive extended interviews and more. Now this is a second term we can all get behind. Listen to the Daily Show Ears edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danny Trejo]

You should probably keep your lights on for Nocturnal Tales from the Shadow. Join me, Danny Trail and step into the flames of Fright, an anthology podcast of modern day horror stories inspired by the most terrifying legends and lore of Latin America. Listen to nocturnum on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Tamara Judge]

Welcome.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

My name is Paola Pedrosa, a medium and the host of the Ghost Therapy podcast where it's not just about connecting with deceased loved ones, it's about learning through them and their new perspective. I think God sent me this gift so I can show it to the world.

[Tamara Judge]

And most of all, I help people every single day. Listen to the Ghost Therapy podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[AJ Stephens]

$1.4 billion in NFL quarterback Contracts the untold stories behind the biggest deals in football history I'm AJ Stephens, Vice President of Client Strategy at Athletes first, introducing the Athletes First Family podcast, the Quarterback Series. My co host Brian Murphy, Athletes First CEO and I are sitting down with the agents who have negotiated contracts for Justin Herbert, Deshaun Watson, Dak Prescott, Tuathailoa and Jordan Love. Listen to athletes first family podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.