Toodle Doo! (RHOP Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod – "Toodle Doo! (RHOP Recap)"

Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge

Date: December 9, 2025

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod (iHeartPodcasts)

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge deliver their unfiltered take on the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Potomac (Season 10, Episode 10). The duo also delivers a fast-paced "Tea Rundown" for several other Housewives franchises, including Salt Lake City and New Jersey, and touch on recent news in the Bravo universe. The conversation is peppered with personal anecdotes, signature humor, and their trademark irreverence about all things Housewives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up: Weddings, Family, and Parenting Teens

• (03:35 – 09:00)
  The hosts share their respective wild weekends.
  • Tamra attended an extravagant medieval-themed wedding with a Beauty and the Beast live performance.

    “It was like a medieval times theme. They had the Broadway play from Beauty and the Beast there singing...” – Tamra (04:06)

  • Teddi talks about exclusive events at California Adventure and taking several family members, touching on her kids' relationships, artistic pursuits, and the nostalgia of burning CDs as gifts.
  • Discussion on growing up, tweens, and the challenges of shopping for a 10-year-old.

    “Ava, you know, she’s turned that corner where she’s no longer, like, a baby, and she’s not. She’s a teen. She’s like a preteen.” – Teddi (08:00)

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2. Housewives Franchise News & Gossip

• (09:28 – 14:07)
  • Salt Lake City reunion seating chart: Discussion about who deserves the "hot seat" next to Andy and why (especially Bronwyn and Lisa).

    “Lisa got her ass handed to her all season, so she does belong in the seat next to Andy. You know, that’s the hot seat…” – Tamra (11:06)

  • Reality TV crossover: Quick talk about Heather Gay’s live TV appearance during a football game, with Melissa Gorga and others.
  • New Jersey: Rumors of Teresa Giudice making up with relatives Kathy and Rosie; speculation about the Gorgas spending Christmas together and its impact on family dynamics.

    “All I know is that, yeah, she did reach out to her a couple months ago, actually…” – Tamra (13:39)

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3. Viral Housewives Drama & Rumors

• (14:07 – 15:14)
  • Speculation about the Salt Lake City “plane fight,” the likelihood of an NDA for passengers, and whether unseen footage will air at the reunion.

    “They allege they do have footage of what happened and they are saving it for the reunion…” – Dolores (15:47)

  • General skepticism about production rumors and how much is orchestrated or real.

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4. Other Bravo Happenings

• (16:59 – 17:47)
  • News: Below Deck’s Frasier hospitalized after vape-related heart attack; conversation about the dangers of vaping.

    “He’s urging people to give up vaping. I could have died for the sake of something so ridiculously stupid…” – Teddi (17:47)

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Deep Dive: RHOP (Real Housewives of Potomac) S10, Ep10

1. Wendy, Stacy, and the Loyalty Dilemma

• (23:35 – 25:16)
  • Wendy defends Stacy despite Stacy’s dishonesty and new cannabis venture; the hosts are shocked by Wendy’s mild reaction.

    “Are you not shocked that Wendy gives her a pass?” – Teddi (24:05)

  • Questioning Stacy’s authenticity and her tendency to “avoid an answer or lie.”

    “They should do a drinking game. How many times Stacy can avoid an answer or lies in every episode…” – Dolores (25:05)

2. Tia, Stacy, and the Neverending Lie

• (25:16 – 26:14)
  • Tia’s growing frustration with Stacy’s fibs, particularly about Timu/Timo’s whereabouts; Tamra feels Tia is “trying too hard,” while Teddi confesses a personal aversion to liars.

    “I cannot stand when somebody lies. It gets under my skin. It gets in my gut. It wants to explode out of my mouth.” – Teddi (25:54)

3. Ashley’s Breakup and Emotional Honesty

• (26:18 – 27:09, 38:08 – 39:22)
  • Ashley’s raw and direct breakup with Josh on camera elicits empathy from the hosts.

    “My butthole was clenching. I was like, is she doing this to this... She’s breaking up with him on national tv.” – Tamra (26:47)

    • Later, they expand: Ashley’s honesty is praised; Uncle Lump is lauded as the voice of reason.

    “She gets to the core of this girl's pain…” – Tamra (45:41)

4. Monique’s Apology and Family Collateral Damage

• (34:55 – 35:24)
  • Monique’s apology for comments about her daughter’s father and the impact of reality TV on family members.

    “The truth is… our families are like casualties of these wars…” – Tamra (35:24)

5. Stacy’s Cannabis Party – Who Owns What?

• (47:01 – 48:15)
  • Dissection of Stacy’s cannabis launch, the sparse turnout, and whether she truly owns her business or is just a brand face.

    “Producers say to her, they ask her in her confessional, do you own it, Stacy? And she’s like, I love my business partnership.” – Dolores (47:09)

    • Both hosts, with business experience, call out the difference between branding and true ownership.

6. The Ongoing Stacy Conflict

• (49:22 – 54:13)
  • Debate about Tia confronting Stacy; the cast’s exhaustion over Stacy’s evasiveness and white lies.
  • Ultimate scene: Stacy kicks out Tia (“toodle doo!”) after a heated argument; the hosts compare who’s really to blame.

    “She said exactly what Stacy said. She just repeated it. How is Stacy making Tia the bad guy in this? I don’t think Tia is the bad guy.” – Dolores (54:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On honesty and Housewives drama:

  “Ashley… the shit that comes out of her mouth is so raw and honest. I die, Ashley Darby. I die over you.” – Tamra (26:47)

• On the reality of being a Housewife:

  “Our families are like casualties of these wars.” – Tamra (35:24)

• On production and rumors:

  “They allege they do have footage of what happened and they are saving it for the reunion…” – Dolores (15:47)

• On Stacy's evasiveness:

  “They should do a drinking game. How many times Stacy can avoid an answer or lies in every episode…” – Dolores (25:05)

• On calling out liars:

  “Stop lying, and I’ll stop talking about you.” – Ashley (reported by Dolores, 51:41)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:35 – Weekend catch-up: weddings & family updates
• 09:28 – Salt Lake City reunion seating chart talk
• 14:07 – Salt Lake City plane fight/NDA rumor
• 16:59 – Below Deck vape incident
• 23:35 – RHOP recap begins
• 25:05 – Stacy’s truthfulness (& drinking game idea)
• 26:47 – Ashley’s on-screen breakup with Josh
• 35:24 – The impact of reality TV on families
• 47:09 – Stacy’s cannabis launch and business ownership
• 54:13 – Stacy and Tia’s “toodle doo” drama

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Final Thoughts

• The hosts remain divided and passionate about Stacy and Tia’s feud, with Teddi siding with Tia for calling out dishonesty and Tamra emphasizing the necessity (and exhaustion) of having on-screen drama.
• Ashley is praised for her honesty but, according to social media, is not always the fan favorite—while Stacy somehow retains that mantle, for now.

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Episode Tone

Playful, irreverent, but sharp—Teddi and Tamra’s banter thrives on calling out cast members’ inconsistencies while relishing Housewives chaos. Both are honest about their own quirks, from parenting fails to strong feelings about lying, making for an entertaining and relatable recap.

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Tamara Judge]

Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Commercial Announcer]

Hi, guys.

[Dolores Catania]

Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself and Dolores. Good morning, Delores. How are you?

[Tamara Judge]

Good morning. We're all bright eyed and bushy. I know today, aren't we?

[Dolores Catania]

Yes, yes, yes. So how was your weekend?

[Tamara Judge]

I went to the most incredible wedding. My weekend was amazing. It was an experience, actually. It was Gabby's best friend. We can't post on social media or anything very like. Yeah. I just don't even know.

[Dolores Catania]

Was it a fancy wedding?

[Tamara Judge]

Fancy. It was like a medieval times theme. They had the Broadway play from Beauty and the Beast there singing as a gift from their wedding planner. And it was. And it was made to think that we were on a big. The room. It was at the hall of Lemaire and it.

[Dolores Catania]

The mommy and daddy are rich.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And so are they. Actually young kids, 30. They. They made their own way.

[Dolores Catania]

Wow.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, the whole thing was made to think you were on a blimp.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, my gosh. Well, do you ever get to post pictures? Because I want to see this or. You just have to send.

[Tamara Judge]

I'll send them to you. I'll definitely send them. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So I had a busy weekend, so. Yeah. So a lot with the kids. We went to California Adventure for the Coast. It's a private event. This is, I think, my fourth year of doing it through iHeart. So you can get into California Adventure at 6:00 o', clock, but at 8:00, it's a private party till 1:00 clock in the morning.

[Tamara Judge]

So.

[Dolores Catania]

Cool. It's very cool. There's no lines. You just walk up to every ride, which Is unheard of. And so I took Sophia, Spencer and then their.

[Tamara Judge]

Their significant others.

[Dolores Catania]

Significant others. So Nico and Jordan came along.

[Tamara Judge]

I met Jordan. Yeah, she's so pretty.

[Dolores Catania]

She' beautiful. So Spencer and Jordan have been together over two years.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And then Sophia, Nico celebrated their six month anniversary. That's only six month swear.

[Tamara Judge]

Those kids have been together in many lives.

[Dolores Catania]

Those two are talking about getting married.

[Tamara Judge]

When it's right, it's right.

[Dolores Catania]

Yep. So I mean, not.

[Tamara Judge]

Not right now.

[Dolores Catania]

I love him.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I see this kid.

[Dolores Catania]

So they're both into the arts. So they're talking about moving to New York.

[Tamara Judge]

I went through his Instagram.

[Dolores Catania]

He's artsy, he's a photographer.

[Tamara Judge]

I see that they're very into like the 70s theme.

[Dolores Catania]

You know, he's very 70s.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

You know, she is. Her style changes all the time, but she, they both love fashion and music and they just get each other, I think.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I love it.

[Dolores Catania]

You know, she asked me, mom, do you have a computer that I can burn a cd? I go burn a cd.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, you stick it in the side.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, what are you talking about? Like, and she goes, yeah. Nico's car has. Still has a CD player because he's got an older car car and I want to do a special CD for him for our six month anniversary.

[Tamara Judge]

And very sweet.

[Dolores Catania]

And so she's like, oh, I found when I can buy one, they're really cheap. I'm like, okay. And then he gives her the exact same gift. Oh, they're just very, very connected. Very sweet. I see that they're kind of morphing into the same person.

[Tamara Judge]

I do.

[Dolores Catania]

She has a short hair.

[Tamara Judge]

Perfect for each other, honestly.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. And then, then I took Sophia, Nico, my granddaughter Ava, her mom Sarah to Jingle Ball. So we went to Jingle Ball, which was such an amazing experience. Nico bought his sister, who's the same age as Ava, so she'd have somebody to hang out with. And we went. They had like two. Oh, there's the first time either one of them had been to a concert. They're both 10 years old.

[Tamara Judge]

It's the perfect concert for them too.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes. And it was a lot of bands. I didn't know a lot, I have to admit. Some couple of them I knew, but the young ones, they knew all of them. But it was such an experience. They had a gifting suite. So the kids went through the gifting suite and left with bags of free stuff. Love that they had ice cream in there and all that. And then we went into the suite from the I heart suite and it was filled with food and see the concert and. Oh, it was just. It was a great weekend, but, you know, that wipes me out. Then I'm tired for the rest of the.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. Yeah. And the funny thing is, you could send them back, but here's the thing. Do they understand that when your mom is cool and hot that you get a lot of perks in life?

[Dolores Catania]

Ava, you know, she's turned that corner where she's no longer, like, a baby. And she's not. She's a teen. She's like a preteen.

[Tamara Judge]

10 is. 10 is the new 14.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. She's going to be 11 in February, so, you know, it's like, I don't even know what to buy her for Christmas now. What do you buy?

[Tamara Judge]

They like sneakers and stuff like that.

[Dolores Catania]

Suddenly she wants clothes. Well, she is in the 99 percentile for her height, so she's.

[Tamara Judge]

Stop it all.

[Dolores Catania]

And skinny.

[Tamara Judge]

Kidding.

[Dolores Catania]

Her mom's really tall, so Sarah's super tall, so I'm like, okay, well, I'll buy you, but I don't know if they're gonna fit. So it's. She's just like a little girl now. She's no longer that, but she's fun. And we got to go kind of like backstage at the concert, which they thought was really cool.

[Tamara Judge]

So cool. So for them, and especially their first concert, now they're gonna think every concert they ever go to is gonna be like that.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, that's what Sarah said. She goes, you really raised the bar for me. And then. Oh, they got to walk a red carpet.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

Oh.

[Dolores Catania]

Ava did some interviews with me. I don't know if they'll make it out. Sophia did. Her boyfriend did.

[Tamara Judge]

So I just would love to hear them speak because I only see their pictures, so I want to hear.

[Dolores Catania]

So they were saying they hard launched their. Their relationship right there on the red carpet at Jingle Ball. So it was fun.

[Tamara Judge]

Fun and exciting.

[Dolores Catania]

I know. So we got the Salt Lake City reunion seating chart. A lot of people were confused by this seating chart. So Andy's in the middle. On each side of him, you have. Well, on one side is Bronwyn, Heather, Angie and Brittany. Angie and Brittany.

[Tamara Judge]

Brain fog. I know you're tired. I am. Wore you out.

[Dolores Catania]

And then you have Lisa, Meredith, Mary and Whitney.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

Whitney.

[Dolores Catania]

Whitney on the end. What did you think of the scene chart?

[Tamara Judge]

So I thought that. And I like. Like, I like everyone, but I think there could have been a few switches. Like, I think Angie made. It should have been before Heather, because I thought Angie did a lot of the heavy load this year.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. Well, what about. What about Bronwyn being first seat.

[Tamara Judge]

You know? Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

You thought that was. I do.

[Tamara Judge]

I do. She went. She had a rough season with her husband, with her family. Really hard. Lot of, like, personal story, and those are really. That's gotta be. I mean, a fight with someone you don't even really fucking like is not a big deal. But when you have to put your family stuff out there and sit in front of your husband who's kind of, like, eviscerating.

[Dolores Catania]

You keep in mind that we haven't seen the whole season yet, so there's gotta be. What. What episode are we on now? Don't they have 17 episodes? We're on 12, so there's still five episodes left.

[Tamara Judge]

That's a long way to go.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. So we don't know what happens.

[Tamara Judge]

Things might change, you know, you're.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes, things might change.

[Tamara Judge]

I get what you're saying, and you might be right about that. So we'll. We're gonna find out. But it's worth. It's always worth looking at this show. I love to watch. I look forward to it. They bring it every. Every episode. Lisa got her ass handed to her all season, so she does belong in the seat next to Andy. You know, that's the hot seat, you know, when you're sitting next to Andy. Really? I mean, I think you kind of.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm still bleeding from being on. I'm still trying to get the knife out of my back.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm really okay with that.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, yeah, I know. I'm like, put me the end. Did you happen to see that new show that came out last night? What is it called, Guys with Justin Sylvester? It's a little talk show about football on Peacock.

[Tamara Judge]

I did.

[Dolores Catania]

Heather Gay was on it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Like, how'd that all happen? Heather, Boston Rob, Melissa Gorga, and who else was it? Somebody sent it to me because there was. Of course, Melissa had. He was funny. He asked if Juicy Jo would be at Christmas.

[Dolores Catania]

Okay, so it's called reality Hot seat. I did not see it. I actually went off the grid yesterday. Put my phone down, didn't look at it. Went to bed early. Watched Landman, like, just.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, Landman's out. Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

Land man's out. Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

So it was like. So I was out to eat with Paul and his kids at the river palm down the street, and my back was to the tv, and he could see the TV goes, hey, look who's on. So I Turned around and it was them. So. But I couldn't hear it. So then of course, it was on Instagram. Somebody.

[Dolores Catania]

Okay, so it was live, which makes a lot.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

That.

[Dolores Catania]

That makes a lot of sense because the clips I saw, I thought they could have edited this better.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I didn't even notice.

[Dolores Catania]

But it was live that reviews came in.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it was during the football game.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. So, I mean, you would have never known from the clips I saw that they were actually watching a football game because it was about everything but a football game.

[Tamara Judge]

Right? It was. But it was funny when he said, so is Juicy Joe coming? And then he went, no, I meant Louie. And Melissa was like. But anyway, they did mention it's a Christmas miracle that the Gorgas will be spending their Christmas together, which is very nice. I'm very happy for them.

[Dolores Catania]

So Teresa has made up with Kathy and Rosie as well.

[Commercial Announcer]

We're hearing.

[Dolores Catania]

Is that true?

[Tamara Judge]

She did say that she called Kathy. I didn't hear her mention Rosie. Who. I'm a big fan of Rosie. I love Rosie. And Kathy's expecting her first grandchild. I can only imagine the outfits that'll be on. She does everything with such class and taste. I can't wait to see this baby. It's beautiful. I'm sure everything's going to be amazing. But all I know is that, yeah, she did reach out to her a couple months ago, actually, but I don't know anything since.

[Dolores Catania]

Okay, so I'll be a rumor. So there's a little Real Housewife for Salt Lake City Tea from the Daily Dirty. They are posting on Reddit. People are saying that NBC and Peacock had passengers on the plane with the Real House of Salt Lake City. You know, when they had that. They had that big fight when they had that big fight with Meredith.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, Meredith was like, yes, taking Britney's seat. And I mean, I heard my friend Christina Pasina always gives me like, she hears it before me and she's like, like she was like really going after on the plane. It was crazy. And at the end, Britney was like hysterical crying.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, evidently they were asked to sign an NDA, which doesn't really make any sense because if somebody, if I'm not on a TV show and they hand me an NDA because I saw something on the. I would be like, no, I'm not signing that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I feel like I have no.

[Dolores Catania]

Ties to the show.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

Why?

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, I'm not going to go out there and spread it to people, but, like, I'm not going to sign some contract unless they don't pay unless they got paid. That's the only.

[Tamara Judge]

You have to understand, they're not going to pay for that. People sitting around them that doesn't know who they are. I've been on a plane not many times, but there's times where I have like a little old lady sitting next to me and if they were in first class, you know, like who knows a business guy, we don't care who they are. He's not going to go on social media with this. It depends. But how come no footage ever came out about the fight with Porsche on the plane? That they have the whole people the, the whole plane sign in NDA. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know. They allege they do have footage of what happened and they are saving it for the reunion now. I don't know. We've all said they must have it because they're going so hard. This to me seems a little bit like speculation. I don't think I, I have a hard time believing there's any truth to this. They're not going to just ask the guy in front, can you sign an NDA?

[Tamara Judge]

No, no, it's not going to happen. Producers even on there?

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, they're always on there. There's always a producer that rides with us.

[Tamara Judge]

Just something like that film. So, yeah. So the producers got the footage then? Please. They got it.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. So the real house of New Jersey. Sister in laws Teresa and Melissa in the news again. They enjoyed a double date with their husbands, according to.

[Tamara Judge]

I saw.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, Teresa shared on her Instagram story a video of herself, Louie, Melissa and Joe at dinner drinking wine. Listen, I honestly don't know what to think.

[Tamara Judge]

I hope the best for them. They're. They seem happy. Joe seems super happy. You know, let's see what happens. Time tells. Time tells. And I, like I said, I hope it's the last time we ever see them make up. I know that means they never get.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So the Below Deck star, Frasier had a heart attack from vaping. Now, I don't watch the show, so I don't know him, but it says a blow deck. Stu took to Instagram saying I was rushed to the hospital due to severe chest pains and difficulties breathing. To keep it simple, I had vape poisoning. So vaping is an E cigarette and it's associated with lung injury.

[Tamara Judge]

These kids, I hope they understand. And adults too. My sister vapes all day.

[Dolores Catania]

It's very addictive. I've done it before and it's like, it tastes good, it curbs your appetite.

[Tamara Judge]

And all these things smell like smoke.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, but it's really, really bad for.

[Tamara Judge]

You popcorn lungs also, which is you. Listen, guys, is that a real thing worth it? Yes. Yes.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, he's urging people to give up vaping. I could have died for the sake of something so ridiculously stupid. So please do yourself a favor and give it up cold turkey. We don't know enough about these horrific things, but I can tell you one thing that was not cute. Not even for the plot. So was he filming when this happened? Jesus.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. But I don't know. I think it's horrible. But I did see the shape he had a no, like he is six pack, big shoulders, nice packs. Like he's in great shape.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

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[Dolores Catania]

Then there's the denim that goes with everything.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Dolores Catania]

Bring your A game and talk to your doctor. Learn [e-mail] or call 1-888-240-0340. Well, let's get on to Real House of Potomac Season 10 Episode 10. So I feel like these, these seasons are going to buy so fast. Salt Lake City's got. Got what, five more episodes? Potomac's got seven, so I think they do 17 if I'm not mistaken. Well, it starts off where Wendy tells Giselle she doesn't think Stacy's a bad person but feels she copies the other girls. Giselle says Stacy is a liar. Now, I knowing Wendy's personality in everything that Stacy is doing, as far as not always telling the truth and and now having a cannabis company, are you not shocked that Wendy gives her a pass?

[Tamara Judge]

What I'm more shocked about is the fact that Stacy has her trepidations about Wendy. Like when she didn't want to invite Timu to the dinner and she's like, not that good with Wendy when Wendy's the only one that has her back. Really?

[Dolores Catania]

Well, then also, didn't she say she didn't want to invite her to her cannabis launch?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, like that.

[Dolores Catania]

It's just so mind blowing to me because Wendy's so outspoken and she can read a in two seconds.

[Tamara Judge]

Wendy has been very good to her. And yeah, I mean, if it's because of the reunion, I think Stacy needs to drop it because there's people that she's being nice to that are a lot nastier to her than Wendy.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me.

[Tamara Judge]

Why does Stacy always look like her neck is stiff? She turns her whole body when she's talking.

[Dolores Catania]

Was she a beauty queen? Was she one of these?

[Tamara Judge]

That's how she like, she's like, oh, right. Something just Stacy. I don't know. I don't know.

[Dolores Catania]

But they should do a drinking game. How many times Stacy can avoid an answer or lies in every episode. I think it's still the fan favorite.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't want to get to you mad at me, but I'm going to tell you this. Tia's trying too hard with this little fight with Stacy. Like, she's overdoing it. She's totally overdoing it over. That's why Stacey, I didn't. I agreed with her when she went Bravo. Bravo. Like, T is getting loud. It's not a part of.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know if I agree with that, though. I don't know. I just. I think of myself.

[Tamara Judge]

She care if she lied about Timo being. We've all lied about. You've never lied about saying, oh, Eddie's not around, can't make it tonight, or whatever. Don't say you haven't. Everybody has at one time or another. Like, why?

[Dolores Catania]

I think for me. For me, I don't know. There's an issue I have. I didn't talk to my therapist about it. There's a name for. I can't remember what it is. Something to do with justice. I cannot stand when somebody lies. It gets under my skin. It gets in my gut. It wants to explode out of my mouth.

[Tamara Judge]

You would never be able to be on this show with.

[Dolores Catania]

You're a liar. You know that's what I'm saying.

[Tamara Judge]

You know who I feel is the MVP of this. This whole episode is Ashley. Ashley Darby and Ashley. And when I was watching it, I was thinking of you because I'm like, you're a lot like her, in a sense that you can't stand a liar because she's Ashley. So honest. And we'll get to like her whole scene with this guy because I. My butthole was clenching. I was like, is she doing this to this?

[Dolores Catania]

She breaking up with him on national tv.

[Tamara Judge]

He's gonna cry. I think he's crying. And I was. And he was. We gotta get there. Yeah, I was, like, on the couch, like, in the fetal position for him. And she's just like. The shit that comes out of her mouth is so raw and honest. I die, Ashley Darby, I die over you.

[Dolores Catania]

It's funny. Funny. So what do you see? It says, seeing mo' Nique felt good. And that mo' Nique came off light and positive. I love mo'. Nique.

[Tamara Judge]

Monique is so beautiful.

[Dolores Catania]

She is stunning. Absolutely stunning.

[Tamara Judge]

Furry fraking statist.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Maybe even prettier. It's crazy.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't know if they're.

[Dolores Catania]

And the body.

[Tamara Judge]

The body and.

[Dolores Catania]

Holy moly.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you see her watch what Happens live?

[Dolores Catania]

I saw pictures. I saw just videos.

[Tamara Judge]

I like her. I really like.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, I love her. I love her.

[Tamara Judge]

And. And I'm gonna. And we'll get to what she said on Watch Happens live about, well, you.

[Dolores Catania]

Know who doesn't love her? Well, Giselle. She's not sure how she feels about Monique, but says they need to talk. They need to talk, she says, but they're at the car they're looking at now, correct me if I'm wrong, the G wagon. They're looking at G wagons for her daughter.

[Tamara Judge]

I thought it was for her. I thought it was for Giselle.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, I thought she said something about her daughter. Then she says that she wants to leave a, a better footprint. And she goes on to talk about.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, no, because she wants an electric car, that's why.

[Dolores Catania]

You know what I don't want? Electric fucking car. That's what I don't want.

[Tamara Judge]

She said her lease was up. My daughter has an electric car. Biggest mistake ever.

[Dolores Catania]

Biggest mistake.

[Tamara Judge]

Everybody I've talked to pull over and charge it. Because she drives an hour and a half to work, and when it's. And when it's cold out, she doesn't get as much out of it. We told her not to buy it, but my daughter is into, yes, I get it and I respect it. All into saving the planet, but it's really not about saving the planet. And she's going to need a new battery soon, which is like $10,000.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, see, I don't know. Anyway, I'd be the one that would get stranded. You can't take it long distance and you have to worry about finding a place. My girlfriend moved her son to college to Arizona. He has an electric car. Literally, we're stranded. Everyone they went to was out of order.

[Tamara Judge]

There's a line.

[Dolores Catania]

Yep. And then they finally found one. It added like three hours to their trip.

[Tamara Judge]

We had an electric car for a week. Paul had an electric Rolls Royce.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, my. Of course he did.

[Tamara Judge]

And we sent it back.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

He almost got an argument at the guy at the charging station. I said, this isn't going to work with us.

[Dolores Catania]

We actually, last night we watched a documentary on how they make Rolls Royces. I'm like, holy.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. It's pretty crazy.

[Dolores Catania]

Crazy. So I guess her lease was up, so now she wants an electric G wagon.

[Tamara Judge]

I have one. Non electric. I, I, It's a tank. And somebody actually just said it's a. Ballistic doors. You can't shoot. Shoot.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I heard that. I went back and forth. I'm on my third Range Rover.

[Tamara Judge]

I had them too, and I like them. No, I bought this one. Yeah, but I've never bought a car before because I beat the out of them.

[Dolores Catania]

So I bought my last two cars outright.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it's just whatever. At this point, I don't even know. I just do what I'm told.

[Dolores Catania]

It's nice not having a car payment.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, right.

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Dolores Catania]

I mean, when you're on one of these reality shows comes up about everything in your life. So I don't, I thought that it was nice that Monique apologized for hurting her daughter about talking about her dad, I guess, about him flopping his big D all over the place.

[Tamara Judge]

But at least she said he had a big day.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, but the thing is, is like she didn't go in it trying to hurt the kids. But it's, you know, the collateral damage is what it is. And when you're on a reality show, like, I mean, that was nice of.

[Tamara Judge]

Her to do that, but the, you know, our families are like casualties of these wars when they, when it happens, when the war hits.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, yeah, ask all my extended family. You and your fucking show.

[Tamara Judge]

The truth is, that's a sad truth of us being on the show, that the people attached to us get hurt and they don't get paid for it.

[Dolores Catania]

I know, I know it's hard. Tia call Stacy and thanks her for inviting her to the shot. Shayo. Shayo, whatever the cannabis brand she's launching. And I think there's a question the.

[Tamara Judge]

Weirdest conversation I think I've heard all season. She's like, yeah, so Stacy was just talking really strange. No. Yes.

[Dolores Catania]

So T is invited to Stacy's grand opening, but Wendy is not. And I thought that Wendy was her closest friend in the group. This woman sounded like, yes sense at all. She makes no sense.

[Tamara Judge]

Wendy. The only one that's giving you grace. Stacy, you don't invite because she. You actually said, Stacy, that you were afraid because. Because Eddie has a cannabis line that she would be stealing your ideas. This is so weird.

[Dolores Catania]

And she says like that, the smile on her face. I'd be good. Go fuck yourself, Wendy.

[Tamara Judge]

Because you know why Wendy doesn't get mad? I'm gonna tell you why Wendy doesn't get mad. She don't give a.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, she just probably isn't gonna go anywhere.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, she doesn't care. You know, Wendy's being so smart about this whole thing with Stacy and how she's being treated by Stacy. She's not giving it any light. She's like, oh, geez. Like, oh, yeah. So I get it. I'm not invited. Okay. So I don't have to say no to.

[Dolores Catania]

It doesn't seem.

[Tamara Judge]

But she would have went. It doesn't.

[Dolores Catania]

She would have went like, Wendy's personality. Something's up.

[Tamara Judge]

She does not care at all. Only when you can only get mad when you give a shit.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So that's. That's how I feel about.

[Dolores Catania]

But you're paying it for the show.

[Tamara Judge]

But Wendy is like, enough people are doing my job for me. I don't need to jump on this. Let's beat up Stacy today. Bandwagon. Wendy's like, she already got her beaten. What do I care?

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, well, Ashley in her situation. So she's on her date with Josh just so she can dump him. She says she doesn't want to have kids and, you know, all these things. And he just sat there. I felt bad for Josh. I felt like it was kind of embarrassing for him. I couldn't imagine. Like, she said, hey, Josh, we're going to meet and I'm going to dump you. So I just want to give you a heads up. Do you think she did that or no?

[Tamara Judge]

Ashley. Oh my God. It was like, not going good. It was kind of going south. The conversation. I think he kind of felt where it was going. He's never been dumped. Like, she's a woman.

[Dolores Catania]

I feel like that conversation was cut up and left on the. The editing floor because one of the reasons, and probably one of the only reasons other than not wanting to have kids and settling down is. They have not been on an international trip.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, there. It's the. It's not just the trip. It's the whole meaning of, like, what kind of life. If I'm. Am I going to have, it's because.

[Dolores Catania]

He doesn't have the money, baby. That's what it is.

[Tamara Judge]

But he goes, like. He goes like this. He goes, how do you know what my finances are? She goes, we haven't even been on a trip. Like, we haven't. He's like, well, let's go this weekend. And that's when. She's like, he's not getting it, so let me really hit it home. She's like, well, you're gonna find somebody who's really going to deserve you and be so good. And that's when I was, like, on. Like. I was, like, rolling off my couch. I was like, oh, my God, I feel it. Thank you. For him. You're out of your league, bro.

[Dolores Catania]

It kind of made it like you don't have enough money, so I'm gonna have to let you go.

[Tamara Judge]

There's a lot of. But you know, Uncle Lump, he really hit it home with State with Uncle Lump, who's like, the father figure in the family. I think he deserves. I don't know if that's his name or his last name or. I don't know why they call him Uncle Lump, but give the guy a better name. I think he deserves it. He's been the father figure in the family. But Uncle Lump was like, listen, cut him loose. We know what you're doing with this kid. Like, just. He. He's a nice guy, you know, Give a. Cut him a break.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Giselle and Monique meet up. Monique says she's done a lot of reflecting and hasn't and wasn't completely sure why she was mad at Giselle.

[Tamara Judge]

That's me.

[Dolores Catania]

Time goes on. I don't give a shit.

[Tamara Judge]

It ain't that bad. Like I said, I forget why I was mad. I've gotten into arguments with people, and they're like, well, tell me when you did this. And I'm like, I'm sorry I wasn't keeping tabs for what I did for you.

[Dolores Catania]

What about people that keep tabs?

[Tamara Judge]

Not, don't. Don't trust a motherfucker that keeps a tab. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

People that keep tabs on everything you've ever said and done.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, no, sorry.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm sorry. But they have issues.

[Tamara Judge]

They have an agenda.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Anybody who's keeping tabs on every conversation what they did for you, what you said. When. What you didn't say. They're. They're just keeping their log. To me, that's a worst.

[Dolores Catania]

Yep.

[Tamara Judge]

That's the burn on you. I don't get, you know, character flying. And you know what I don't like? It really bothers me.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't either. We're not like that. Move on.

[Tamara Judge]

Move. No. All right. That's why I lose an argument sometimes, because I don't have. Thank you. Information. You're asking me.

[Dolores Catania]

The season I was on, that everything was about 15 years ago. It's like I don't even remember what I had for breakfast this morning. You think I'm gonna think about all that stuff? Like, move the on?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Like I'm not myself.

[Dolores Catania]

Another thing I don't ever want to hear is she was traumatized and hurt by what you said. Shut up. I don't have the power to traumatize and hurt you. Grow some balls.

[Tamara Judge]

No, that's just like somebody just saying, like, you did this to me. Oh, please. I. I don't. I don't have. I don't have patience for that. To me.

[Dolores Catania]

Do it again. Do it again to me. See what happens.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

But.

[Tamara Judge]

You mean it, too.

[Dolores Catania]

She also played a role in things going wrong, and they end the conversation with a hug. Now, social media was upset because they felt Giselle didn't take enough accountability in.

[Tamara Judge]

The scene, but she did, and it was edited out.

[Dolores Catania]

That's what we learned. So Monique had her back on Watch what happens live last night and said that Giselle, in fact, did take a lot of accountability, but it wasn't shown. And that's what we're. People like you don't understand a lot. They can only fit so much in a. In a show.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. But here's the thing. That was something that should have given. You know, I would have taken something from Stacy and Tia's little tiff or some other stupid things that happened during the episode and given that more time because people have lived through that. That was a pivotal moment in the show and in a friendship and things that have happened. So I would have liked to have seen more of that than something stupid. Whatever.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. What did you think about angel going ring shopping with Greg and Kay's mom for Kiana?

[Tamara Judge]

You know, I think it was. You know, I think it was nice. But see, I. I'm a little bit. I feel like angel is really, truly happy for her. And I. Am I wrong to think that angel is a better friend to Kiana?

[Dolores Catania]

I think that Kiana's harsher with her words. And angel just seems like she's very sweet within the group. It's when you get her outside of the group with her husband is when she really speaks her mind. Yeah, but we did learn from angel that when you're in your 30s, it's considered middle aged. Which is really funny because I did a cameo yesterday where somebody was turning 30 and they're like, let her know she's middle aged. I'm like, middle age? What am I, one foot in the grave?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, we're. We're old age now, so middle aged. If. If 30s. Let me just let everyone know since I'm the big menopause queen right now. Yeah, menopause starts at 35, so call it what you want, but yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

It'S all right.

[Tamara Judge]

We're all fun.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, whatever. Well, then Ashley goes and tells her sister she ended things with Josh. She says she misses him, but that their relationship wasn't right. So she's like, we haven't talked in two days. I miss him.

[Tamara Judge]

She goes, I'm not gonna lie. You know, I miss him. But this was a scene, though. Moving forward in this scene, her sister broke my heart.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

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[Tamara Judge]

When she's taking her sister furniture shopping and she starts crying, it was like a real guttural cry, a real hurt cry. She seems very sweet, the sister. So sweet.

[Dolores Catania]

Now, do they. Is it like her half sister or just sister by.

[Tamara Judge]

I feel like it's her half sister. She kind of looks like the mom. Different father. Okay, so it is. It is her half sister.

[Dolores Catania]

The father is the one that Ashley doesn't like.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Dolores Catania]

Now, I didn't know her mom. Yeah. I didn't know her mom had a kid.

[Tamara Judge]

Had a child with him. That explains a lot.

[Dolores Catania]

That's why she stays with them. I thought he was just like this freeloader that just comes and she takes care of. They have a child together.

[Tamara Judge]

They've been together for many years. Well, she's not a child. She's a grown adult. But, yeah, look at even she's an adult. She's going to the University of Maryland. Ashley's taking her shopping. Ashley lets us know how she financially is able to give back to her family at this time, which I'm happy for her. That's a great feeling that you could do things for your family that you love. And, you know, Ashley talks deep. She would make me uncomfortable because I don't talk deep like that about feelings. I would run away from Ashley.

[Dolores Catania]

Me too.

[Tamara Judge]

But Ashley gets to the core of this girl's pain and she starts to really cry. And I'm like, oh, God, look, as a parent, look at the hurt that we put onto our children when we fuck up. You know, we don't mean to do it. Nobody's meaning to do it, but it happens. This girl's on her way to college and she's going, she's leaving with a lot of pain. And what she says is, it should have never gotten the way as bad as it did with his addiction. I don't know. I thought he was an alcoholic guy. I don't really know what his addiction is.

[Dolores Catania]

Whatever it is, they made it sound really bad.

[Tamara Judge]

Whatever the addiction is, it's really hurt the family and the people involved so badly. So you know what? I hope her father sees that and feels that. Well, we.

[Dolores Catania]

Do we ever see him on the show?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I don't think we have.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't remember if we did. It's been a while, that's for sure.

[Tamara Judge]

I just felt so bad for her. She seems, like I said again, she didn't badmouth him. She didn't say, he's a horrible man. Yeah. She just said it was so hard and it was a really not an easy way to live. So, you know, I really hope the best friend healing for everyone there.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Well, then Stacy throws her launch party for cannabis line.

[Tamara Judge]

Now, I thought this put it in a phone booth. People could have fit in because no one showed up.

[Dolores Catania]

No one showed up. I thought, this is interesting. Producers say to her, they ask her in her confessional, do you own it, Stacy? And she's like, I love my business partnership.

[Tamara Judge]

I.

[Dolores Catania]

So she's the face of it. She doesn't own it.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we already knew that. There's a lot involved. There's licenses, there's a lot of paperwork, there's legal.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, my God, you have no idea.

[Tamara Judge]

I do.

[Dolores Catania]

It's a big freaking deal. It's a big deal and it's a lot of money. A lot of money.

[Tamara Judge]

A lot of money. And I mean, it's just so hard, you know, Frank owns a bunch of dispensaries he's been working on.

[Dolores Catania]

That's right. How's he doing with many years?

[Tamara Judge]

Good. And you know, it's just. It was really. It was years of years and years.

[Dolores Catania]

There's so much.

[Tamara Judge]

Seven or eight years involved and banking.

[Dolores Catania]

And all kinds of stuff. Yeah, it's a lot. I mean, we have partners, but we're partners. We're not like. I'm not a face of the company.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

So anyway, it's. It's another brand deal. A housewife gets that, she puts her name on that.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, don't say you own it if it's a brand deal. That's the only thing that bugs me.

[Tamara Judge]

Just say I'm representing.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. I mean, from somebody that owns one, it's annoying. So Stacy throws her launch party at the cannabis line, and the girls know. I mean, this girl knows how to dodge a question. Like, she does not answer any question whatsoever. Then Giselle and Kiana were invited, but they didn't want to go. That's crazy. Then Tia asked.

[Tamara Judge]

They shouldn't be invited. They shouldn't have been invited. Sorry.

[Dolores Catania]

But they were invited.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, but they shouldn't have been. It shouldn't make sense.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, then Tia asks where Tiamo or Timo, whatever his name is. Stacy says he's. And it's weird because they're like, well, where is he? This is your. Your launch of your business. And she's all, he's traveling, he's traveling, he's traveling. But something did not seem very authentic about it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. We don't know enough to say. Maybe he just doesn't like to film. We can't say that yet because we don't. We haven't seen them. They were getting divorced. Now they're not.

[Dolores Catania]

But do you ever think, like, because she lied about the boyfriend last year, and it came out that she was paying him to be her love interest? Do you ever wonder if this relationship. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Is real version of the marriage.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, Timu. Version of the marriage. I. Sometimes I do. I. I don't know, because it's like when somebody is always telling white lies and fibbing. It's like, for me, I feel like everything they say is a lie.

[Tamara Judge]

This is how bad they feel about Stacy, that they don't want her there. Kiana wasn't in the episode at all this season. This episode.

[Podcast Advertiser / Narrator]

She.

[Tamara Judge]

She didn't get a lot of airtime. She got basically nothing. All she did was ring shopping that, you know about her. But she wasn't there, not even for air time. Did she want to go to her party?

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

What is their actual beef? I'm just curious. I don't know. Why does everybody get so upset about Stacy's lying all the time?

[Dolores Catania]

Unless it's annoying.

[Tamara Judge]

It's annoying to have something about that specific person. Yeah. But when somebody's always lying about her own life just to ignore her.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, that's the thing. That's. You know, if somebody's constantly telling lies, either you're gonna, like, head on go for them, or you're just gonna ignore them?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that's what Wendy's doing.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And. And Ashley is like, you. She can't stand a liar.

[Dolores Catania]

I can't stand it. No, I cannot stand it. Well, Ashley, like, she was going for it. They were going back and forth.

[Tamara Judge]

It was like rock, paper, scissors the way they were talking.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. So Stacy pulls Ashley aside and asks her how they can move forward. Ashley says Stacey needs to stop lying. Stacey tells Ashley she needs to stop being evil.

[Tamara Judge]

Evil.

[Dolores Catania]

I don't think Ashley's. She's not evil thinking evil.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. She's forward, very straightforward and transparent. And maybe that comes off as evil to someone who does not tell the truth and isn't transparent.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, as she says, if you stop giving. If you stop giving me something, I'll stop talking. So basically, stop lying, and I'll stop talking about you.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Ashley showed up and right away went for the dress that she had on last week. Like, we don't really, you know, we don't really do that over here. Like, it's very obvious. Like, I. I mean, the dress looked right on her. It's kind of nice, really pretty. But.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, here's the thing. We all kind of shop in the same online store called Revolve, so it's hard not to have a crossover of the same outfit.

[Tamara Judge]

But if. You know that. If I knew that Teresa had an outfit on the week before, but I'm not putting it on this.

[Dolores Catania]

No, I agree with that. I agree with that. There was at the Bravos, there was a couple people, three people, actually, at Bravo Con that had the pink Crystally dress. Jen Pedante had it on, Gia had it on, and Portia had it on.

[Tamara Judge]

It's not their fault. They don't know each other. They don't film with each other.

[Dolores Catania]

I had brought that dress. It was one of my reunion dresses, and it wasn't cheap. And the only reason I kept it, well, it was, like, over a thousand dollars. But the only reason I kept it and didn't return it is because when I went to put it on, it had no zipper, and I ripped the tags off of it, so I had to keep it. So now I'm like, oh, I'm never gonna wear it now. It's just gonna sit there.

[Tamara Judge]

You wear it to a wedding or something, you'll wear it. You'll have a place for it. Maybe an appearance or something. Maybe wear with a jacket.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I could do something like an upside down.

[Tamara Judge]

Like a fur Shrug. You could do something with it. It's not going to go to waste. If it was my size, I'd borrow it.

[Dolores Catania]

Tia brings up how Stacy lied about Timo being out of town to avoid dinner with Wendy. Here we go again. It's always about Stacy's lies again.

[Tamara Judge]

Tia, not that big of a deal.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, they get into a screaming match about it, so it was kind of a big deal on the show.

[Tamara Judge]

Overdoing it.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, they don't trust each other. Well, Stacy ends up kicking her out.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, literally doodle do out of my toodle do.

[Dolores Catania]

Now I think I am on tsi. You're on Stacy side. So Stacy is exactly who her cast says she is. Tia didn't overstep, in my opinion. She said exactly what Stacy said. She just repeated it. How is Stacy making Tia the bad guy in this? I don't think Tia is the bad guy. I feel like she's not.

[Tamara Judge]

She's calling her out, right? She's calling her out, but she's calling her out and she's doing her housewife duty. Now, Tia, because she has to. She has to have some type of fight. This.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, actually just called her a lying ass hoe. But Tia didn't. She didn't kick her out. Toodle doo.

[Tamara Judge]

You mean Stacy didn't. Stacy didn't kick out Ashley? No, she didn't.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, she didn't kick out Ashley's what I'm saying. So she. But she called her a lion ass hoe. That's way worse than what Tia said to her.

[Tamara Judge]

She was thought she was going to make friends with Tia, and. And Tia is like, I'm not jumping on this sinking ship. I'm out, and I'm going to use this to get out. See, Stacy. I mean, Tia told Stacy to shut up. And then that's when Stacy got all Detroit on her and said, toodle do on out of here.

[Dolores Catania]

Toodle, Dolores. Until next week, Stacy.

[Tamara Judge]

Now don't ever say that again. That's all I want to say to you.

[Dolores Catania]

She continues to be a fan favorite. She really does.

[Tamara Judge]

And after this one, I don't know.

[Commercial Announcer]

We'll see.

[Dolores Catania]

We'll see. I forgot to do a thing on my stories asking people's thoughts.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm still. I'm still not over Ashley breaking up with that Josh boy.

[Dolores Catania]

Poor Josh.

[Tamara Judge]

Joshy.

[Dolores Catania]

Josh will end up on a reality show soon.

[Tamara Judge]

Josh isn't okay. Josh is not okay. He's doing a rebound right now with some girl his age, and he's taking her on a vacation and saying See.

[Dolores Catania]

Ashley, they're in Europe somewhere for Christmas.

[Tamara Judge]

He didn't make it to Europe. He's had a, an all inclusive on an island in Cabo. He did a Groupon.

[Dolores Catania]

So from according to Instagram, Stacy is still a fan favorite and Ashley is, well, let's just say not.

[Tamara Judge]

I can't believe that. But I'm. But Ashley is like doing her job. She's not hated by Bravo.

[Dolores Catania]

She's still on. No, I love Ashley. I love her takes and I feel like she's like brutally honest about things.

[Tamara Judge]

I told you, I can never talk to her about my feelings. And if she ever does that, I'm going to run in the other room. So she better not ever pull that with me. Ashley, she speaks well. She's very articulate.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, she's very smart.

[Tamara Judge]

But she was married to a very much, much older man for a long time. And you learn a lot from whoever you're with. You can lose brain cells or you can learn, get, you know, gain intelligence.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I was in the car yesterday and Eddie was trying to talk to me about the stock market and I, and I did everything. I mean, he's long winded. So he sat there and talked, I can't tell you, like 20 minutes. And then he's talking to me and I'm looking out the window. He goes, I'm so glad we had this conversation. I feel like I'm talking to myself. I go, you are zero interest in the stock market. And there you have it. Well, toodle doo to you, Dolores and we'll see you soon.

[Tamara Judge]

Talk to you soon. Bye bye.

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Tamara Judge]

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