Two Jersey Js: Cheers to New Beginnings

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Two Jersey Js: Cheers to New Beginnings"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts
• Episode: Two Jersey Js: Cheers to New Beginnings
• Release Date: December 31, 2024
• Description: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge team up to Tell All. Listen each week as they watch and rehash as only they can. Who knows housewives better than housewives?! Right?! Teddi and Tamra are Two Ts in a Pod. (Telling All).

Hosts:

• Jackie Goldschneider
• Jen Fessler

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1. Year-End Reflections and Emotional Challenges

The episode opens with Jackie and Jen reflecting on the challenging nature of the past year. Both hosts express hope for a more peaceful and positive 2025, despite the divisiveness and ongoing conflicts that have plagued the nation and the world.

• Jen Fessler shares her optimism for the new year:

  "I'm very hopeful for some peace and some exciting change in the new year." ([02:57])

• Jackie Goldschneider discusses the personal toll of global events:

  "As a Jewish woman, I have carried a weight on my shoulders every single day... it's been hard to know that's still happening every day." ([03:26])

2. Impact of Current Events: Anti-Semitism and Global Conflicts

The hosts delve into the harsh realities of rising anti-Semitism and the ongoing conflict in Israel, highlighting how these issues resonate personally and emotionally with them.

• Jackie underscores the personal impact:

  "I think about that family all the time. And I just... I'm really sad." ([04:19])

• Jen emphasizes the need to remain united against hate:

  "You're a really good friend." ([54:42])

3. New Year's Plans and Personal Celebrations

Jackie and Jen discuss their respective plans for celebrating the New Year, sharing personal anecdotes and traditions that bring them joy amidst the year's difficulties.

• Jen reveals her New Year's Eve plans:

  "I'm going to be on a plane home from Mexico... going to a friend's house. We're all going to be in PJs and I'm going to bring over some black-eyed peas." ([04:40])

• Jackie shares her family's recent experiences:

  "We took the kids to Europe for the first time. We went to Italy... my kids loved it." ([19:33])

4. Parenthood and Personal Growth

The conversation shifts to the joys and challenges of motherhood, highlighting the hosts' dedication to their children and the personal growth they've experienced over the year.

• Jen reflects on her children's achievements:

  "Zach got into law school... Rachel moved into the city... she loves that." ([08:56])

• Jackie discusses her journey through recovery and motherhood:

  "Recovering, getting rid of the big stuff... I've gained some weight over the past few months and that's been a little bit hard for me." ([40:12])

5. Professional Endeavors and Creative Projects

Both hosts share updates on their professional lives, including podcast renewals, new segments, and creative pursuits that have enriched their personal and professional growth.

• Jen talks about her segment on Page Six:

  "I talk about pop culture with Evan and Danny... it's a big love fest and we laugh." ([10:15])

• Jackie mentions hosting the National Eating Disorders Association gala:

  "That was amazing. One of the most amazing highlights of my year." ([44:40])

6. Entertainment and Leisure: TV Shows, Movies, and Trends

The hosts engage in a lively discussion about their favorite television shows, movies, and current trends, providing listeners with entertainment recommendations and personal preferences.

• Jen shares her love for reality shows:

  "I'm a Housewives junkie... I watch most of them." ([26:19])

• Jackie reminisces about favorite movies:

  "Great Balls of Fire was my favorite movie growing up." ([30:14])

7. Personal Growth and Emotional Resilience

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the hosts' personal growth, particularly in managing emotions, relationships, and mental health through therapy and self-reflection.

• Jen discusses her journey in therapy:

  "I can... think, wow, what about this? And then put it into play... therapy is the greatest gift you can give yourself." ([38:13])

• Jackie speaks about her progress in recovery:

  "I've had to make baby steps every day... being okay with gaining a few pounds." ([40:25])

8. Resolutions and Hopes for 2025

As the episode draws to a close, Jackie and Jen share their aspirations and hopes for the upcoming year, offering listeners motivational insights and personal commitments.

• Jackie emphasizes patience and consistent effort:

  "Planting the seeds and the little things... that's my resolution." ([51:34])

• Jen encourages embracing opportunities:

  "Don't let your dreams die in your head because things take effort." ([55:30])

9. Closing Messages and Listener Encouragement

In their final remarks, the hosts urge listeners to pursue their dreams, maintain emotional well-being, and continue supporting each other through shared experiences.

• Jen hopes to connect with listeners:

  "We try to be honest and open and it's all about connecting with people." ([56:43])

• Jackie offers heartfelt encouragement:

  "Follow through on the things that you are dreaming about... no one gets away." ([55:53])

10. Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jen Fessler: "I'm very hopeful for some peace and some exciting change in the new year." ([02:57])
• Jackie Goldschneider: "As a Jewish woman, I have carried a weight on my shoulders every single day... it's been hard to know that's still happening every day." ([03:26])
• Jackie Goldschneider: "Recovering, getting rid of the big stuff... I've gained some weight over the past few months and that's been a little bit hard for me." ([40:12])
• Jen Fessler: "Therapy is the greatest gift you can give yourself." ([56:43])
• Jackie Goldschneider: "Follow through on the things that you are dreaming about... no one gets away." ([55:53])

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Conclusion:

"Two Jersey Js: Cheers to New Beginnings" offers an intimate and candid look into Jackie Goldschneider and Jen Fessler's lives as they navigate personal challenges, celebrate milestones, and reflect on the past year. Their honest conversations about mental health, family, and professional growth provide valuable insights and inspiration for listeners seeking connection and encouragement as they step into 2025.

Transcript

[Jackie Goldschneider]

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[Jen Fessler]

Happy Almost New Year's. I'm actually quite excited that we are saying goodbye to 2024.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I am, too. But why are you.

[Jen Fessler]

I mean, I think this. I'm very, very hopeful for 2025. It's been a hard year. I think it's been a hard year for everyone. It's been a hard year for our country. It's been. Not to start out as Debbie Downer, but, you know, it's been so divisive. What's happening in Israel has plagued us both. I know. And it's still happening all year. I'm hopeful for some peace and some exciting change in the new year.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah, I'm with you. But it hasn't all been bad. But yes, I must say, as a Jewish woman, I have carried a weight on my shoulders every single day. And not that the anti Semitism that's destroying the world right now has impacted me so greatly, but I think living in a town that has a hostage, so there's a hostage from my town and it's. I think about that family all the time. And I just. I'm really sad. I'm sad. I think about, you know, when I look at the girls that are being held hostage, they. They look like the same as my daughter, you know, and it's really hard to take myself out of that and say this is about other people, because it's not like I'm Israeli. And it's just been hard. It's been hard to. To know that's still happening every day.

[Jen Fessler]

We haven't really spoken about it a lot here.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

And I know because it's politically divisive, which it shouldn't be. I mean, there should be no political divisiveness to the fact that, like, you support creating these innocent hostages and that.

[Jen Fessler]

You'Re against anti Semitism.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah.

[Jen Fessler]

Which is running rampant. But anyway, guys, for another time.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah.

[Jen Fessler]

Yes.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

So let's talk New Year's, because it's here. I know. What are you doing? What's your plan?

[Jen Fessler]

Well, actually, by the time that you guys are hearing this, I'm going to be on a plane home from Mexico, which I'm so excited about.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

That's nice. Get out of this weather a little bit. It's so cold. I feel like it just went from like summer to winter. And now with the time change like, it goes from. If there's no afternoon, it's like morning and then it's night time.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

You know, so it'll be nice.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah, it will. I'm gonna celebrate on the day though, so going to a friend's house. We're all going to be in PJs and I'm going to bring over some black eyed peas, which is a very southern tradition. You have to eat black eyed peas on the new year for good luck.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh, I love that. I went to a pajama party at a friend's house the other day. We did a cookie swap. Like, everybody baked cookies and then we put them all out. There was like 20 of us and we put all the cookie platters out on a table and everyone went around and took home like four of everyone else's cookies for themselves. My kids loved it. They went crazy. Yeah. So, okay, so New Year's Eve, you're gonna be in Mexico. New Year's Day, you'll be with your friends. That's really nice.

[Jen Fessler]

I'll be flying home from Mexico, so I'll probably be a little depressed. But then New Year's Day, I will be with my friends.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah, that's nice. That always feeds your soul. I love being with friends. I really prioritize my girlfriends. I love, I love being around them. It always makes me feel good when I am with them. What about lately with you?

[Jen Fessler]

I'm sorry to interrupt. I just, I feel like lately, ever since like the show, I just see you with your friends, like very often on. Have prioritize them. It's. Since the show has been on pause. It's a very different feel. Right. It's like, yeah, you know, I love.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

The show and I do hope that it keeps going, but in the meantime, I'm like enjoying a little bit of the break.

[Jen Fessler]

Right.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I am. I'm trying out new projects. I'm prioritizing friendships. I really have extra time for my family. It's been nice. Yeah, it's been good. Anyway, so, you know, for, for many years, Evan is not the partier than I am. I. I could go out five nights a week and he, he likes going out about once a week. And then he's hit his social max and he's busy. I mean, he works full time. He. He's always with the kids at basketball and he likes to sit on the couch and he doesn't care. You know, he's not ashamed of it. But he, he does like to go out like once a week, but that's his night. Out, and that's fine. But New Year's we've got into this routine of not doing anything, and I was okay with that for a while, but now I'm kind of feeling like, you know, now one of my almost 17 year olds loves going out. So if he's going to be out and I have to wait up for. For him anyway, and I probably have to pick him up, then I might as well go out, right? So I don't know. We're trying to decide now because we've, like, for a decade have not done anything.

[Jen Fessler]

I don't love New Year's Eve and I don't love going out. So both of those combined. I mean, Jeff is. It's always very surprising to people that know us that Jeff is way more interested in going out at night, like any night.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

So maybe, maybe I'll send Evan to your house and you can hang on the couch at him.

[Jen Fessler]

You know, I love that. You know, I love that. Evan Goldschnider.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah, he's a cutie. So let's see. So let's. Let's talk about the year a little bit. So we already at the top, you know, talked about some of the shits, and there's no denying there was. And on both sides of the political aisle, there were shits. Right. That was.

[Jen Fessler]

Yep.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

So divisive. I've never seen an election like this in my life.

[Jen Fessler]

It's horrible. But the process leading up to it was horrible. It's. I know that for some people, they're. They're still in mourning. Some people are thrilled. Depends who you ask. But divisive for sure.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah.

[Jen Fessler]

I'm just hopeful.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I mean, like, it is what it is, so there's no point in being thrilled, upset, whatever. It is what it is. Now let's see. Right?

[Jen Fessler]

Yes.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Now let's see. So, Jen, what was the best thing that happened to you this year? Something good?

[Jen Fessler]

No, it's like, you know, you always, as. As a mom, I. My first thought is always, like, I always feel good when good things happen to my kids. Right. So it's. Then my therapist would probably say, learn to separate. It's probably very dysfunctional. But I think about my kids just being. Having good things happen to them. Zach got into law school, which is. Which is so exciting. Rachel moved into the city, which she absolutely loves, and she's working in pr and she loves that. And so those things occur to me. But probably that's the wrong way of thinking about it. Right? Like, no.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Why Being a mom is such an amazing part of your life. And also, like, it's not just your kids accomplishing them. Like, they're accomplishing this because they have a support system behind them and because they know that you're there. I mean, don't take yourself out of your children's accomplishments.

[Jen Fessler]

I absolutely agree with that. But I, by, like everything else, you know, I want to have my own things going on, and I think it's so helpful, especially for an empty nester. So we've had a few really, you know, fun things. I mean, this podcast, well, that happened last year, but.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah, but still. But like, we got renewed.

[Jen Fessler]

We're. Yes, we got renewed. That was exciting. I loved. I am loving having the segment that I'm doing on Page Six. I don't know you guys, if anyone's listening to it, but on Page Six, I talk about pop culture with Evan and Danny. Like, that's been really fun in a way to sort of separate out of the housewives world. We don't discuss housewives, but we discuss what's going on, you know, all around the world, just pop culture. So nothing deep. And it's fun to just sort of be still in front of the camera a little and, and. But it's a different dynamic, right? It's these two fabulous men and we all love each other. It's a big love fest and we laugh and we're a little shady at times, but nothing that's gonna get me killed. So, yeah, that's been really fun. What about you?

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah, the best thing that happened to me this year. I don't know, it was a tough year. I mean, I think just that, like, this is going to sound silly and cliche, but just that everyone is, like, healthy and happy, you know, Like, I just like nothing, you know, I had a challenging year. So in January, Aiden, my. My. One of my older twins, we were at the Madonna concert the night that he broke his knee. Meaning you. And. He broke his knee. He broke his leg. He had a horrific surgery. He was home for a month after that. He was in so much pain. It was. I was crying, like, all day. I slept. I had slept in a bed with him downstairs because he couldn't move, and so he was immobile. So I. It was a really hard month. And then I homeschooled him. And then he finally made his way back into sports by May, and in July, he broke his shoulder. So it's been, you know, like watching your kids suffer through something. And I know that you've been through this too. It's really hard you know, it's hard now that all my kids are, like, healthy and doing well. I'm kind of like savoring that part of it. Like the fact that I'm not like, said about it. I get that is a good thing.

[Jen Fessler]

I get that. What they don't tell you about having kids is that you, you are always. At least for me, I'm even in my happiest moments, I'm a little nervous. Like I'm always. Or, you know, I'm thrilled when my kids are happy. If they're not, it affects me. It's a very difficult. You know, you have this part of yourself that you have no control over. Right. And you shouldn't. I mean, the kids have to live their own lives. It's how you raise them. But you're always sort of just a little bit on edge. Where are they? What are they doing? Are they good? Yeah.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Maybe two that are going to start driving soon. And I. God, how did you do that? Like, I am so. I don't mind driving with them and teaching them to drive. I do it all the time. But I'm so nervous for them to get their license. Really nervous.

[Jen Fessler]

It's not. That is not easy.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah.

[Jen Fessler]

There's so much that. I mean, I'm always worried because my daughter has a chronic illness. She has type 1 diabetes. And that's always kind of something that's, you know, with me, I'm thinking about and. But then other stuff there. Yeah. When. When both my kids got their licenses, I was a nervous wreck. I wouldn't even. I couldn't be in the car with them, teaching them. So that was all of Jeff. Oh, I couldn't bear it. It was. I. I freaked out. Which freaked them out. I just. I had no ability.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

No.

[Jen Fessler]

I'm good with it.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

But we also. We haven't really been on many highways. We haven't done anything super challenging. So.

[Jen Fessler]

Right.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

That's to come. But. Okay, so what was the most challenging thing that happened to you this year?

[Jen Fessler]

And how did you. I would say that. Well, I actually. I've been looking at these questions a little bit and I would say that it's challenging and rewarding to be an empty nester. I know that. Again, back to the kids. But there are times where I sort of walked around my house and especially with the show being on pause and it's trying to figure it all out. You know, I'm at the age now. I'm 56. And what does the rest of my life look like? It's a. It's an interesting thing to consider and also like being this house, I'm in this. I'm suburban New Jersey in this, you know, colonial with. We're paying taxes for the schools and like, what's the point? So what are we. What is our next step? So that's always on my mind and I think that has been a challenge, but also it's been at times a delight. My house is, well, not always neat. The kids come home a lot, but like, you know, just waking up. Jeff leaves at 6:30 every morning. And there are days I'm really busy and there are days that I'm have nothing going on. The days that I have nothing going on, I think I get in a slump. I get a little depressed and the days that I'm.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah, but you have so much going on the other day. So you don't just savor those days as like, I can relax today.

[Jen Fessler]

You know, I think it might seem like I have so much going on on. On social media, if you follow my social media, although I don't think I posted that much recently. But I'm posting like events I'm going to. Right? And I'm posting, I'm posting stuff that I'm doing, which, yeah, I mean that definitely takes time and keeps me busy. But on a daily. I'm not necessarily like, I do the Page Six thing once a week. You and I record our podcast. You know, that's an. That's an hour every couple weeks. It's. So I'm always posting about those things or I'm going to an event or I'm. But there's a lot of downtime for me now without having the kids in the house and you know, I fill it with friends and I actually knew this year is working out and. But I'm always better when I'm busier, when I've got something. Like my. One of my favorite times was when I was writing the song when I was learning guitar and writing the song for. For the end for the finale of the Housewives.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh yeah, that was a great song.

[Jen Fessler]

So that was one of my favorite things that happened this year was writing that silly song that was just. I love doing that so much. It's so. It was so creative and it was. I don't know, it was so satisfying for me. And then of course, in true gen festival form, I didn't pick up the guitar again when it was over. So. But.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh, didn't you write a part two?

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah, but then. Yeah, that was pretty soon after.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh, okay. Oh, and you haven't written. You know, I play the piano, so. And I know every time my house is empty, I play. I can't play when people are home because. Really? Yeah, because they don't like the noise from it. But also, like, I. I don't know. They, like, make fun of me. Right?

[Jen Fessler]

They make fun of me.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Think of my house. They associate piano with, like, something I forced them to do when they were little, and I really just went back to it. But I'm very good. I like. I want to get a. I want to get, like a 10, 20 song rotation that I can play just by heart. And I want to. I want to play in a band one day. That's like a bucket list thing for me. Just for one day. Just one night only. Jackie Goldschneider. One night only.

[Jen Fessler]

I love that.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Playing a band.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah, I Love that. So 2025, baby.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah. Let's see. Let's see. I have a couple of projects that I want to accomplish in 2025, but. Funny thing that happened to you this year. I can't think. I don't know any. Like, I'm sure I have. I'm sure we're going to sign off from this. And I'm like, that was the funny thing that happened to me this year. I'm trying to remember. Like, I did laugh a lot this year, but I don't know. I don't know if there was anything particularly really funny.

[Jen Fessler]

Well, I went to Vietnam with Jeff this year, and we laughed our way through that trip. Whether it was. We went on this. These motor scooters. What are they called? I don't know what they call it. The mopeds or whatever it is. So we circled around them. I want to say. Was it in Saigon? I don't remember exactly, but we stopped off the tour, had a stopping off. It was like a food tour. And we were so sick to our stomachs by the time it ended. There was. So it went on for hours. And I just remember, like, he and I trying to be so polite to these tour guides, and both of us being. There's just. And, you know, and being with him, just him that far away, we always have. We're always able to make fun of each other and laugh. And that whole trip, we were. It was one of those, like, moments in time where we were in awe of Vietnam, but also just hysterical the entire time. The culture is so different than ours and, you know, getting used to that and. And being, I don't know, on fishing boats, and we. It was fun and we laughed a lot.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah. Probably traveling. Yeah, we went to. We took the kids to Europe for the first time. We went to Italy. We spent a week in Rome with the kids and it was just amazing. I am like I was flabbergasted by how many people watched the show that were in Rome. I got stopped constantly.

[Jen Fessler]

Nobody watches in Vietnam you watch the.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Show, especially people from like London, people from Canada, they love these shows. Yeah, they watch all of them. I don't think I watch any shows from overseas.

[Jen Fessler]

It's true though. I remember when I was in France, I got stopped a couple times. Yeah, like in weird places like shopping or whatever.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

You're worldwide.

[Jen Fessler]

Jen Fessler I'm worldwide, baby.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

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[Jen Fessler]

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[Jackie Goldschneider]

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[Jen Fessler]

They got cozy Uggs, Crocs, nest candles, dry bar travel kits, skin gym, LED masks, great options for stocking stuffers and more.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

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Thursday on abc. Get ready to move that bus. The beloved series Extreme Makeover Home Edition is making a triumphant return to kick off the new year. Join the makeover mavens Joanna Teplin and Cliche here as they hit the road on a mission to transform the lives of deserving families whose stories will truly touch your heart. With the help of the design team Arion Belizer and Wendell Holland, they have just four days, a race against time to rally communities, demolish old homes, and rebuild not just houses, but lives. Get ready for those heartfelt moments filled with tears of joy as Joanna and CLE dive deep into the emotional journeys of these families, uncovering their struggles and beginning the healing process. It's not just about remodeling homes. It's about rebuilding hope one family at a time. So don't miss out on this incredible journey. Extreme Makeover Home Edition premieres Thursday at 8, 7 Central on ABC and will be available to stream next day on Hulu. You won't want to miss it.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Let's fast forward just for one second. Since we're on the topic of shows. I have to tell you, I just watched a show. I'm not going to ruin it, obviously for anyone. And I really liked it all the way through. And then my mind was freaking blown. And the last episode, it's called Disclaimer. Have you watched that?

[Jen Fessler]

No.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

With what's her name? Oh, God, that blonde actress. I'm blanking right now. That was. Hold on. Let me remember. Hold on one second. It was Kevin Klein.

[Jen Fessler]

Love Kevin Klein.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

The woman who's married to. To Sean Penn, who's absolutely Robin Wright. No, no, she was married to him a million years ago. Hold on.

[Jen Fessler]

He's married Sean Penn now? I thought he had some new young.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Okay, Planchette. Sorry.

[Jen Fessler]

Okay.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah, I think. I think Lea George is married to Sean Pen. Oh, no, she was married to him for two years. She's much, much younger than him. She's absolutely stunning. It's called Disclaimer.

[Jen Fessler]

Okay.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Really good. The last episode really blew me away. So watch it. If you haven't watched it, watch it.

[Jen Fessler]

Well, absolutely. Watch it. This was. I watched a lot of TV this year, I have to say.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Did you?

[Jen Fessler]

I did a lot of tv.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

What? Did you watch that?

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah. Well, that's the thing, is that, like, when I am home and I have the day, I'm such a slug. Also. So we talked about this, Jack. But, like, if I'm home and I've got nothing going on, I'm in my bed, period.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Really? Oh, I'm not. I'm cleaning out clothes.

[Jen Fessler]

People aren't. No way.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

But I'm crazy.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah, well, I'm crazy, too, but I'm crazy in the bed, and I.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

You're crazy in the bed. You know.

[Jen Fessler]

Well, don't get. Let's not be silly. But I am streaming and eating and talking on the phone and staring at the TV while I'm looking at my other device. Whatever. But, yeah, I stream a lot. I'm very grateful. For what?

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Do you watch reality shows or you watch? Because I know people are always looking for, like, a show to watch.

[Jen Fessler]

Yes, I definitely watch reality shows. So it's a lot of that. So, you know, we talked about this, but I'm. I don't know if you know this about me, but I'm a Housewives junkie. So.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

You watch all of them?

[Jen Fessler]

I'm just kidding. But, no, I do. I watch most of them. Not all of them, but I watch most of them. Yeah.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

And I watch New York this season. I haven't watched.

[Jen Fessler]

Sorry. I haven't either.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh, I'm. I need to watch Salt Lake City. I'm behind on Beverly Hills just by, like, one episode. But I've watched all of Potomac.

[Jen Fessler]

Me, too.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I watched all of Orange County. That was fantastic.

[Jen Fessler]

Yep.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah, I'm. But, yeah, I gotta watch Salt Lake City. I heard it's great, so.

[Jen Fessler]

Well, yeah, so it's a lot of time spent on reality tv, for sure. And then Jeff is always suggesting something that I don't know. We're always. What do we just watch? Oh, my God. Al Cross with Alex. The guy's name is Alex Cross?

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh, yeah. That's a James Patterson.

[Jen Fessler]

Yes.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jen Fessler]

Which I loved until I didn't read those books. Yeah, I totally see reading. We watch.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

We watch a lot of House Hunters. We love it, Play it like a game. Yeah. So like we pause after they seen all the houses. You know how it works, right? Like the real estate agent takes. We only watch the international one, so we could like fantasize about living somewhere else. And not that New Jersey's not like fabulous, but they, they take the person or couple to three different homes and then we pause it and we bet which house they're going to choose. And it's so much fun, but it's like formulaic. Like one person always wants to live in the city center and one person always wants to live in the suburbs and one person always wants to be by the water and one person always wants to be walking distance to town, you know, so it's like. But it's really fun and it's mindless and it's a half hour and it's easy.

[Jen Fessler]

I'm all about the mindless tv. I mean, listen.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah. And we love Amazing Race actually. Do you watch that? No, we watch every season. We love it.

[Jen Fessler]

I didn't even know it was still on. I don't watch hgtv. Only because it's on. It runs on a.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

In the Manic Spiral.

[Jen Fessler]

In the Manicure. Yes, yes.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Every man has it on. Yeah. And they have subtitles. Yeah.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

It's really nice.

[Jen Fessler]

What about, what about movies? Anything?

[Jackie Goldschneider]

You know, I haven't seen that many movies in the movie theater. I've watched a few on airplanes that I was like. I watched that one that we talked about a long time ago. We did an episode, you and I on what was the topic? But it was. We were talking about the Anne Hathaway movie. Maybe it was our intimacy one or I don't remember. But we were like, oh, it was about being middle aged women and being sort of like the forgotten years, you know?

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

And I watched that Anne Hathaway movie where she falls in love with the lead in a rock band and he's much younger than her.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that. You were like, you loved that movie.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

That I'm dying to see is like, no, I like it. But every movie I'm dying to see is like, it's in the theater for like a minute and then it's out at like, it's just in the city.

[Jen Fessler]

So like I have rediscovered. I have rediscovered movie theaters this year. I mean, I think after Covid, I.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Like them Too, but I'm not gonna travel an hour for it. So we saw. We went to the premiere of that. That Roadhouse one. That was good fun, right?

[Jen Fessler]

Yep.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

You know, me and my girlfriend went on a girl date to see Beetlejuice. And that was fun, you know, but I don't think I've seen anything really mind blowing. But I'm dying to see Anora. You know that movie Anora? And I'm also dying to see. I love a biopic. And I'm dying to see the Timothee Chalamet one on Bob Dylan.

[Jen Fessler]

I'm not. So really, I don't know what that. I don't. I'm not a huge Timothee Chalamet fan and I'm not a huge Bob Dylan Dylan fan. I'll see it. We'll see.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Well, I'm not either. But my favorite movies of all time, a lot of them have been. Is it biopic or biopic? It's biopic, right?

[Jen Fessler]

I don't know.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I don't know either.

[Jen Fessler]

I don't know. But I do love the ones, especially when they're about musicians. I mean.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah.

[Jen Fessler]

So like John, right?

[Jackie Goldschneider]

That one was my favorite.

[Jen Fessler]

That was amazing.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

One was good. Queen was my favorite. And growing up, my favorite favorite movie growing up was Great Balls of Fire. I loved it. So there's a scene in that movie that still makes my hair stand up. It's like when he's playing a whole lot of shaking going on and the whole bar starts dancing. Oh my God.

[Jen Fessler]

Like, really think about if that movie was out now. Okay, because. What? When, When. What's his name? Who? What's his name? No, yeah, but who. What's his name that he played? Great Balls of Fire is who.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh, Jerry Lee Lewis.

[Jen Fessler]

Right. Jerry Louis. He married like a 13 year old or something. And like, I don't remember at the time even discussing that. Like it wasn't even right.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Or even like in the 90s, like Jerry Seinfeld was dating a 17 year old. Shoshana.

[Jen Fessler]

Shoshana.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah.

[Jen Fessler]

I love now.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh, you could never. Although you do have Bill Belichick dating.

[Jen Fessler]

Like a. Oh, I can't even with that.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Well, right. I mean, what's just. What's the appeal?

[Jen Fessler]

What? I. I don't know. Know.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Anyway, we're going off on a tangent.

[Jen Fessler]

But wait, I want to talk about my favorite movie.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Did you grow emotionally this year?

[Jen Fessler]

Wait, I'm not talking about the movies because I want to. That I loved. I did love Wicked, by the way. But. But everybody.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh, I Didn't see Wicked.

[Jen Fessler]

Amazing. And I. We saw it at the Ipick, which is like undercovers with chicken fingers, and it was just incredible. But anyway.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh, can I just tell you one thing, though, that bothers me about Wicked? Is that Kristin Chenoweth used to like me and Message. I used to talk to her sometimes on Message and she followed me and she doesn't like Teresa, and so she has unfollowed me. So I kind of.

[Jen Fessler]

That is heartbreaking. Although you do know that. Well, she is in Wicked. She is in this one, which was. Maybe. I understand that. No, I understand the grudge. And I feel badly for you because I.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

There's.

[Jen Fessler]

First of all, Wicked was just unbelievable. But also, I love me some Kirsten Chenoweth. I wish you hadn't told me that.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

No, I'm sure she's lovely. I was the very minor friendship.

[Jen Fessler]

Well, this. So the movie that I loved was called A Real Pain and it was with Kieran Culkin and Jesse Eisenberg. And it's about these cousins don't want to give anything away, but they travel. Their grandmother dies and so they travel. I'm gonna get this wrong. And it's so ridiculous. I want to say they traveled to.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I think it's Poland, right?

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah, I was gonna say Germany. And it wasn't. Thank you.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

No, I heard of it.

[Jen Fessler]

It was really quite incredible. And the acting in it was so superb. Over the top, ridiculous.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Here is the one who's in succession, right?

[Jen Fessler]

Yes, Correct.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

He is unbelievable.

[Jen Fessler]

Unbelievable. And he plays like this, this kind of a manic young man. And Jesse Eisenberg plays this very uptight person. And they. But the beautiful thing about it was it was a lot about the Holocaust and finding their grandmother's childhood home and talking about they. I don't want to give anything away, but it was so beautifully done. Really haven't seen a movie like that where I walked away just, you know, feeling like I had been sort of transported. Yeah. It's called A Real Pain.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Have you seen the Macy's commercial starring Alison Brie? She plays the human gift guide. And it's so cute. A red blazer, red bow in her hair, and red lipstick. She's adorable.

[Jen Fessler]

And you know what sales she would be telling us about now? The Macy's friends and family, where you can take an extra 30% off top gifts and 15% off top beauty brands.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Macy's has something for everyone. So you can get your shopping done now and not be scrambling later.

[Jen Fessler]

They got cozy Uggs, Crocs, nest candles, dry bar travel kits, skin gym LED masks, great options for stocking stuffers and more.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

And they even offer free shipping starting at $25. So make sure to shop December 4th to December 12th and let Macy's be your guide to gifting. Visit Macy's.com or use the Macy's app.

[Tanya Rad]

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[Unknown]

This is Tanya Rad from Scrubbing in with Becca Tilly and Tonya Rad. And what do you do when you need a complete closet overhaul? You start selling to keep buying. Yep. On ebay. Feeling bold and tired of all that beige? List it all, then buy it all in full color. Craving that vintage vibe? It's out with the new and in with the pre loved. Next thing you know, you've just refreshed your wardrobe without spending a dime. That's the thrill of ebay. You can come with what you've got and leave with what you really want. And once you start, you might just see your closet transform before your eyes, filled with rare interesting finds and even some authenticated designer pieces. Look at you with all the designer deals. So yeah, ebay the place to buy and sell new pre loved vintage and rare fashion ebay things people love.

Thursday on abc. Get ready to move that bus. The beloved series Extreme Makeover Home Edition is making a triumphant return to kick off the new year. Join the makeover mavens Joanna Teplin and Cleigh Shearer as they hit the road on a mission to transform the lives of deserving families whose stories will truly touch your heart. With the help of the design team Arion Belazer and Wendell Holland, they have just four days, a race against time to rally communities, demolish old homes and rebuild not just houses, but lives. Get ready for those heartfelt moments filled with tears of joy as Joanna and Clee dive deep into the emotional journeys of these families, uncovering their struggles and beginning the healing process. It's not just about remodeling homes. It's about rebuilding hope one family at a time. So don't miss out on this incredible journey. Extreme Makeover Home Edition premieres Thursday at 8, 7 Central on ABC and will Be available to stream next day on Hulu. You won't want to miss it.

[Tanya Rad]

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[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh.

[Tanya Rad]

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[Jackie Goldschneider]

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[Jen Fessler]

Certainly hope so since I pay almost 200 a week for therapy. Yeah, I tell you, I had therapy this morning and we spoke about my. About Rachel, about my daughter. And she was going through something over the last couple days. And I've learned she's 22 years old. When she goes through something. We started out talking about this, but when she goes through something, not to take it on as my own and not that, I mean, I'm always there when she needs me, but she could be going something through something. I attach to it in my mind. I can't let it go. It's on my mind all day. And then she resolves whatever it is. And I'm, you know, I spent a whole day. It's just a little dysfunctional. So I feel like I've grown in that. In this particular instance, I kind of separated. I said, She's 22 and I trust that she could handle this. And I'm going to give her the space to handle it. So that that's, I hope, one way. And my son, who is in law school, who is not, doesn't have time now to call mommy every day. And, you know, so to also take a step back and know that he's doing his thing and not to be overbearing, which I tend to be. So I feel like I've grown both of those ways. Maybe also I've gotten. I've Gotten more patient this year. I think that show being on pause has been so strange for us. And I haven't been doing it like you have, Jack. Obviously I've only been doing this for. I only did it for two years and different.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah. But you know what I say? I think that that that makes you want it more than me. Like, not that I don't want it, but like I've had it for a long time and I'm okay if this is the end of the road. I'm totally fine.

[Jen Fessler]

It's not even about not knowing.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Just got started with the excitement, the not knowing. Yeah, that bothers me. I'd like either to know what my job's going to be or to have closure.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah, I mean that's, that's what I mean by patience though. It's like. And everyone's always asking us, right? And we don't. We have no idea. And it's guessing game and all of that. So patience. Okay. What about you?

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I have grown emotionally. I've had to. Well, you know, I'm still, you know, in recovery and I still make like baby steps every day. And it's not, it's not super easy for me.

[Jen Fessler]

Or harder.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

No. Well, the problem is that like recovery, getting rid of like the big stuff, like the not eating, getting rid of that was great. I was so excited adding new foods to my diet. Great. So excited. But it's like the little things, like the nitty gritty, like, it's like the not being afraid of specific foods. It's like the not feeling guilty after a meal. It's like the not overthinking before a restaurant. Like the little teeny, tiny day to day things sometimes are a little bit hard for me. I've gained some weight over the past few months and that's been a little bit hard for me. Not because I don't. I mean, the trade off is worth it. The trade off of having that freedom is worth it. It's just, it doesn't seem fair to me because I'm not like going crazy. I'm not eating everything that I love to eat. I still work out daily. And like, to gain weight when you're not doing anything that warrants gaining weight is hard. Especially when like so many people around me are slimming down, you know, so that's been hard. But also I feel like, I feel very empowered that like I'm in control and how I feel about it. And so I'm proud. I choose to be proud of it instead of being ashamed of it. Because I'm still, like, I'm still me. It doesn't matter. You know, a few pounds up, a few pounds down. I'm enjoying letting myself fluctuate because I've never had that before. You know, for 20 years, I had to keep my weight within a 1 pound range or else it like, drove me crazy.

[Jen Fessler]

Right.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

And I. I don't weigh myself, but I know I've gained weight. So just being okay with that, I feel like, is something that I've never had before. Even in my first, like, two years of recovery, the weight was really uncomfortable for me. Like, now it's. It's just part of me and like, it is what it is. Right. So I feel like that's a big, big growth for me. I've also calmed down. One thing I'm really proud of this year, it's no surprise. The. The show is not great for me this year. Right. And it's fine and it's done and like, the hatred has stopped. But for a month, for like a month, I got horrific social media hate. And that's fine. But I'm really proud of signing off of social media for a month. I went off at the beginning of August and I didn't go back until the beginning of September or the end of August. And that was so great because all this really just exists in your phone, right?

[Jen Fessler]

Like, yeah, really hates you.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Your friends don't really hate you. My friends couldn't give a about it. Right. Like your family doesn't care. So it really just exists in your phone. So I think that was one of the wisest things that I. I've ever done, was just deleting it for a month. And I think I would have caused myself a lot of distress had I not. And it makes me want to in the new year kind of change my relationship with social media more.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah, I think it's really. No, I think that's a great goal, I think, for all of us. Did you hear that TikTok is getting abolished in January?

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I didn't hear January. I thought it had to go through.

[Jen Fessler]

More legal processes, but I could be wrong. I think I just heard that, like this morning. I probably heard it on TikTok.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I just got on TikTok too. Guys, follow me. And someone took Jackie Goldschneider. I'm scared to look at it. I haven't looked at what the page.

[Jen Fessler]

Is, but I have to come up for me, like, usually if it was.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I'm at like Jackie Gold 100 or something like that, I should check what My name is because someone took Jackie Goldschneider. I'm fairly confident there's not other Jackie Goldschneiders walking around. I'm acquiegold100 and I only share eating disorder content, but I don't know what the other Jackie gos.

[Jen Fessler]

According to what I saw on TikTok, it's not going to matter much longer anyway, but I guess we'll see.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah. I host the NITA gala this year. I hosted the National Eating Disorders association gala this year, and that was amazing. One of the most amazing highlights of my year. Like, I can't believe how I try. I want to say full circle, but it's not full circle because I wasn't at that point to begin with. But, like, half circle. How half circle? I've come.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah, I love that.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

All right. Favorite song this year.

[Jen Fessler]

I mean, the thing is that, like, I'm always listening to old songs. I'm. I'm, you know, I'm listening. I put on. It's totally embarrassing, but I'm, like, listening to 80s music and 70s music more than pop.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Huge. Huge. I don't listen to pop. I'm a huge alt rock person. I know.

[Jen Fessler]

That always freaks me out about you.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh, I love it. Weird much? There were a few songs that I loved this year, but I have to say, my favorite is there's a band called Cage the Elephant. Do you listen to them? They put out a new album, a song called Neon Pill that just gets. I just love it. I love Hozier, too. Oh, he's so good.

[Jen Fessler]

I mean, you're talking like we're going to jingle ball in tomorrow, actually.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah.

[Jen Fessler]

It's going to be so much fun. I'm so excited. But if. If truth be told, I don't. I mean, Katy Perry, right? Sza Shabzi Shaboozi. I don't think so.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

So good. I have to say, in terms of pop, Sabrina Carpenter song taste is so good. But I have a teenage daughter and, like, so I feel like an idiot sometimes when I, like, I'm like, running, I. You know, when I run, I put on music I like. I don't want to run to the stuff that, like, she's listening to with her friends and doing TikToks, too, you know, because then I feel like. I don't know. I feel like.

[Jen Fessler]

Right.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

It's her stuff.

[Jen Fessler]

I know. No, I totally get that. I totally get that.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Funny. Like, it's so funny. And this is off topic, but, like, God, how did. How did we get old so fast? I was just.

[Jen Fessler]

I mean, you're talking. I. I can't even have that discussion with you. You're a baby.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I'm not a baby, Jen, you're a baby.

[Jen Fessler]

Comparatively, I mean, 56 to 50, you are. I'm a year and a half. Okay, you're 48. I don't know, Jackie, the difference is, it's huge. I mean, 56 and at 48, I don't even think I was feeling my age. Like.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

No, I'm not feeling my age.

[Jen Fessler]

No, I mean, like, I don't think I was even that. Like now 56, it's. Things are different. Like, my body feels different. Even sometimes when I would watch myself on camera, the way that I move felt I was watching myself. And of course, we're our own worst critics, but I felt like I was moving like an old person, you know? And also that probably is one of the reasons why I started exercising again and lifting weights. But like, I remember watching back when Rachel Futa had this. Had the pajama party. Do you remember that? Yeah. Silly stuff. But watching myself walk from her foyer into like where her bar area was or is. And I remember just seeing that back and thinking, you, you walk like an old person.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

You know, it's like I never saw you walk like, you know.

[Jen Fessler]

Well, you would. I mean, you probably wouldn't because you're not looking for that. But it's weird. It's like the aging thing is, is.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah. Maybe working out will help with that. Well, you're wondering. Okay, so let's see, let's see what else? The best meal you had this year was your best meal in Vietnam.

[Jen Fessler]

Vietnam. Oh my God.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Every meal. My best meal, if anyone is visiting Rome was in like, by far, hands down, no comparison. In a town called Trastevere, there was a restaurant called Taverna Trellusa that was, I mean, just Evan and I were just staring at each other the whole meal. Like, did you try this? Did you try this? It was unbelievable.

[Jen Fessler]

I love that.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

It was unbelievable. Yeah, it was so good.

[Jen Fessler]

Favorite trend?

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Favorite trend?

[Jen Fessler]

Fashion trend.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

What's yours?

[Jen Fessler]

I'm. I am so surprised to hear myself say that. I love the barrel Jean.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Do you? I do. That's so funny that you say that.

[Jen Fessler]

I think you have to find the right one.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Bow legged.

[Jen Fessler]

So I didn't like it either until I found the right one. I just bought a pair of Paige and I love them.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Really.

[Jen Fessler]

And yes, yes. And I can't put on skinny jeans anymore.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

No, I don't wear my skinny jeans. I'm wearing wide leg right now. But I. I have not tried barrel jeans yet. Maybe I will try them.

[Jen Fessler]

I'm shocked that I love them, but I love them.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

All right. I love that. I actually, this year I've been wearing a lot of those New Balance 327 sneakers.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah. Oh, I've started wearing a lot of sneakers.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I like, like a chunky white sneaker I've been, like, really into. So. All right, so let's. Let's get into our hopes for the new year. Do you make resolutions?

[Jen Fessler]

No.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

No.

[Jen Fessler]

When I was younger, it was always to lose weight, right? Every year it was the same thing. And waiting. And up until the new year, I would binge, like, literally, I would think, it's coming. It's coming on New Year's Day. And then on New Year's Day, I would say, well, it's New Year's Day, you have to eat. And I mean, you know, we've talked about the fact that I've also had suffered with eating disorders at times in my life, but that was always the resolution. It was always to lose weight, which I don't do anymore, like, at all. And I don't really do resolutions. But do you.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

You know what? It's not that I do, like, resolute, like, hardcore resolutions, but there are things that I'd like to see happen. They're mostly like career goals. Because obviously I can't resolve to have my children behave in certain ways. You know, when they're good kids, I just want them to be happy. So they're mostly like career goals. I have a lot of career goals and a lot of ideas, and every day I throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. And 99% of it doesn't stick, but that 1% that does is really exciting. So I think I have, like, a whole bunch of things that I have to consistently remind myself to stick with because I love immediate gratification. But, you know, this year I read this book, Atomic Habits. Do you ever read that? And it was talking about God, they had the best analogy. And it was like, you know, you leave an ice cube on a counter in a room, and if you gradually heat the room up from like 0 degrees to 31 degrees, nothing is going to happen to that ice cube. But the minute it hits 32 degrees, that ice cube is going to start to melt, Right? So it's everything you did up until that point that prepared that ice cube to melt. It wasn't just that one thing of hitting 32 degrees that made it happen. It was all the steps before that. Right. So I have to consistently remind myself that planting the seeds and the little things that don't actually make anything like, go boom are what leads up to that, you know, gratifying moment where something does happen for you. So, yeah, planting a lot of seeds, you know.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

And so I have to stick with it. That's my resolution.

[Jen Fessler]

Definitely. That's actually something I did learn, I have to say, this year, this past year, is that, like, I can. I hate the word manifest. Let me not use that word. But. But I do have an ability to think, wow, what about this? And then put it into play, which I think that I struggled with for so long. I mean, I created a business, and I always say this going back when I was 50, but the reason that I stuck with it was because I brought people into it and I. People invested emotionally in it and financially, and so, you know, an F major. And so there was no squirming out of it because my 10. My tendency through the years has been to have a big idea and then, you know, squirm and sort of just like, not really, you know, dedicated, but.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

You busted your ass with that. I remember the first time I met you years ago. Full of shoes.

[Jen Fessler]

No, I know, but that was again. I mean, I. I had put myself in a position where I couldn't squirm out, so. But. But I have. This past year, I've had, like, what about this? What about this? And actually putting that into motion, you know, like the Housewives thing. I got a call from a casting director, and then that I didn't have to do much except to show up. You know what I mean? I didn't. I wasn't creating a show or creating something for myself. It was more like I got an opportunity and I happily took it. Right. But actually coming up with stuff now again, while we're. We don't know what the future is, you know, of the show, and I've been able to do some things. I don't know that I'm. I'm pleased that I've been able to put things in motion this year, and I will. I hope. I hope that I'll be able to do that again.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah, it's kind of exciting not knowing what will happen. Like, as long as my. The people I love are healthy, then I'm kind of, like, excited to see, like, what happens, you know?

[Jen Fessler]

You know, I have a friend who is. Just. Had some. Just found out that he's having some health issues, some serious ones. And. Yeah, I mean, it just changes everything right In.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

In an instant. Right.

[Jen Fessler]

And I'm. Yeah. And I want to say when I think about the coming year, my part of. Part of it. I'm not trying to say this that I'm so altruistic, but like, I just think about my dear friend and I want to be able to be as strong for her and make this, if I can, in any way easier. And like, it'll be a good year if I can help. I mean, I had another friend years back who was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. And for a few years she's. She passed. And this friend won't, but thank God. But anyway, the point is that it was hard. It was really hard to be a close friend of someone going through that way harder for her than it was for me. And as I look. When I look back at it, I think I did everything that I could to make it easier for her. Know that's the only thing that. That's was gratifying in any way about it is that I think I helped make it.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah. You're a really good friend.

[Jen Fessler]

I mean, I don't mean to. I'm not trying to be like.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I think the important thing that I want to carry into the New year is that like, there's never. There's never a year where everything is great. There's never a year where everything is bad. There's never a time in your life. You know, I used to wait a lot and say I'll do this when things ease up. And I'll do this when I'm not like, upset about something. And there's never going to be that time. You just gotta like, do what you do and let life be life, you know? And no one gets away, Jack.

[Jen Fessler]

That's what I tell my kids. No one gets away. Every. No matter what. In. In might be a small thing that you think is small or big or not, but. But the struggle's real. Period. Full stop. That's I guess.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah. And we got these drones flying over New Jersey and who knows what the inside of them. Right?

[Jen Fessler]

I don't want to talk about those. That's freaking me.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Let's hope we actually make it to the New year.

[Jen Fessler]

Freaking. God forbid, that is.

[Tanya Rad]

It's in.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

It's in my. It's in my town.

[Jen Fessler]

Wow.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yes. People in tenly were find we're taking pictures of them.

[Jen Fessler]

I don't get it.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Scary.

[Jen Fessler]

No one can figure it out. I know.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jen Fessler]

Let's hope we're still here on Earth without the Martians. In 2025, know what's in them.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Okay, so message for listeners next year. God, I would say follow through on the things that you are dreaming about because it's really easy to let your dreams die in your head because things take effort, you know, and be okay with rejection. I'm saying that out loud for me also because rejection is a part of it and I hate rejection.

[Jen Fessler]

But yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I said I don't really make. Don't really make resolutions. But I would recommend therapy for anyone who's not in it because I do feel like each year I, I do grow. I grow like we talked about, a little bit emotionally and yeah, therapy is.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

The greatest gift you can give yourself, I would say.

[Jen Fessler]

I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Okay, then, well, listen and I also hope in 2025 you guys keep listening to us and I hope that we are. I don't know if either we're amusing you or you can relate or you don't feel when we talk about certain things, maybe you don't feel so alone. You know, we try, I think with Jersey Jays, we both tried to be honest and open and. Because that's it, right? It's like all about connecting with people. So yeah, for sure. I hope we get to continue that in 2025.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah. We've had some fantastic guests on this year.

[Jen Fessler]

What's your favorite?

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I just have such a thing for my biologist.

[Jen Fessler]

I knew you're going to say that. I knew you were going to say that.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

I really do. Like, I love her. I love that she's an unabashed nerd. I love how she stands by her conviction. She's such a talented actress. Like everything. I love everything about her.

[Jen Fessler]

I know you do. And I loved, love her and love that episode and I think one that really affected me was Maria Menounos, which we did pretty recently and I think.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Oh yeah, we called each other after that. We were just like flabbergasted.

[Jen Fessler]

Yeah, she is a force. She really is.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Yeah.

[Jen Fessler]

So that was a good one. So, so good one.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Some great guests in 2025 and some fun topics and some, some more success and I love you and I wish all of you guys a happy new year and we will happy, healthy you in 2025.

[Jen Fessler]

2025.

[Jackie Goldschneider]

Bye.

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[Jackie Goldschneider]

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[Jen Fessler]

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[Jackie Goldschneider]

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