Twots Take BravoCon 2025: Dr. Dubrow Answers Hard Questions (RHOC Recap)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod – "Twots Take BravoCon 2025: Dr. Dubrow Answers Hard Questions (RHOC Recap)"

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Guests: Alexis Bellino, Dr. Terry Dubrow
Date: November 16, 2025
Episode Focus: Real Housewives of Orange County (RHOC) Season Reunion Recaps, BravoCon 2025, and a hilarious/insightful Dr. Dubrow cameo

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers around Teddi Mellencamp and Alexis Bellino (sitting in for Tamra) rehashing the drama and dynamics from the RHOC reunion episodes at BravoCon 2025 in Las Vegas. They dissect cast seating arrangements, friendships, feuds, and confrontations, and also respond to listener questions about authenticity and relationships. Plus, Dr. Terry Dubrow pops in to answer a very memorable medical question that derails the Housewives talk in the best possible way.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. BravoCon and Reunion Vibes (03:49)

• The hosts set the scene, surrounded by Bravo celebrities in Las Vegas.
• Teddi jokes about not making money despite her frequent mentions on the show:

  "Carlos counted and my name was mentioned six times. And where is my money?" (04:10)

2. Seating Chart Strategy and Jen's Role (05:34)

• Teddi challenges why Jen got "first seat" at the reunion, suggesting she didn't deliver enough for it:

  "Why does Jen have first seat? Because she doesn't deliver." (05:34)

• Alexis disagrees:

  "I think she delivered amazing... she's found her voice." (05:46)

• The two debate who truly "earns" seats and who brings value to both the couch and the series.

3. Jen vs. Tamra: Authenticity and Alleged 'Fibs' (07:27)

• Discussion around Jen’s denial that she knew Tamra before joining the show, with Teddi emphasizing the importance of honesty:

  "What this proves is she knew Tamara. So just say, yeah, I knew Tamara...I would have liked it." (08:18) "If you're going to start there, what else are you going to fib about?" (08:38)

• Alexis tries to see Jen’s side but ultimately agrees more specifics would help.

4. Friendship Realities (11:16)

• Debate on the authenticity of the women’s friendships off-camera:

  "I feel as if none of these women would be friends if the cameras went down." (13:07)

• Both hosts agree that dramatic life-stage differences among the women weaken their potential for true friendship.

5. Katie & Matt: Love, Loyalty, and Reunion Performance (13:52)

• Alexis supports Katie and Matt, saying Matt was a stand-up guy despite the group's criticism:

  "Matt is a standup guy. Maybe she did have her thumb up her ass a little bit...she is so good in her confessionals." (15:46)

• Teddi criticizes Katie for letting her husband do the talking:

  "She sat there with her thumb in her ass and let her husband do her dirty work." (14:09)

6. Couples and the 'Naked Wasted' Drama (22:19, 30:03)

• Secondhand embarrassment discussed over Matt being the only man at the reunion segment.
• Debate about Matt's behavior—too vocal, supporting Katie, or overreaching?
• Discussion shifts to the infamous 'Naked Wasted' situation, with both women expressing fatigue over resurfaced drama.

7. TikTok Apologies: AI or Authentic? (27:12)

• Gretchen and Jen’s TikTok video controversy arises; Katie thinks Gretchen’s apology was AI-generated:

  "Gretchen did. But Katie thinks AI wrote her apology." (27:12)

8. Gretchen's Costume Persona and Relationship History (28:06)

• The hosts discuss Gretchen’s knack for “morphing” into people or costumes, questioning her authenticity.

9. Dr. Terry Dubrow Crash-Talks Penis Fracture (38:08)

Memorable and hilarious segment

• Teddi asks Dr. Dubrow if you can actually break a penis:

  Dr. Dubrow: "Oh, you can fracture your wiener." (38:22) Teddi jokes: "I kind of want to cut a penis in half and just see what's in there." (39:06)

• Dr. Dubrow admits he doesn’t watch the show to avoid drama with fellow cast members:

  "I want to stay friends with everyone, so I purposely don't watch anything." (39:28) "Never argue with a housewife because you will lose 100% of the time." (39:57)

• Teddi and Alexis reflect on whether Matt made the right call by attending the reunion, with Dr. Dubrow sharing his regret from doing the same in his season.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On the importance of reunion seating:
  Teddi: "Why does Jen have first seat? Because she doesn't deliver." (05:34)

• On Jen and Tamra’s pre-existing relationship:
  Teddi: "What this proves is she knew Tamara. So just say, yeah, I knew Tamara...I would have liked it." (08:18)

• On Housewives friendships:
  Alexis: "I feel as if none of these women would be friends if the cameras went down." (13:07)

• On reunion performance:
  Teddi: "She sat there with her thumb in her ass and let her husband do her dirty work." (14:09)

• On husbands at the reunion:
  Dr. Dubrow: "Never argue with a housewife because you will lose 100% of the time." (39:57)

• On medical mysteries:
  Dr. Dubrow: "You can fracture your wiener. That's a real thing." (38:22)
  Teddi: "I kind of want to cut a penis in half and just see what's in there." (39:06)

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Highlights and Memorable Segments

[05:34 – 07:18] First Seat Debate

The hosts dig into Bravo's logic behind the seating chart and what it says about production priorities.

[13:07 – 15:45] Off-Camera Relationships

Alexis and Teddi’s banter about how “real” or transactional on-screen friendships really are.

[22:19 – 24:38] Embarrassment for Reunion Husbands

Matt’s solo appearance as the only husband gets rehashed—and gently roasted.

[38:08 – 41:52] Dr. Dubrow’s ‘Broken Penis’ Breakdown

A deeply unfiltered, often hysterical moment as Dr. Terry Dubrow medically confirms a storyline about “breaking” penises, offering reality TV meta-wisdom and comedic relief.

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Overall Tone & Style

• Candid, opinionated, with playful shade: Both Teddi and Alexis are direct, banter-heavy, and unafraid to “disagree on a lot of things today.” They balance critique with empathy, especially regarding cast members’ struggles.
• Self-aware and meta: The podcasters acknowledge their own roles as ex-Housewives, their prior feuds, and the blurred lines between reality TV and real life friendships.
• Energetic, gossipy, and irreverent: The episode combines inside scoop and unfiltered reality TV commentary with a healthy dose of humor—especially in the Dr. Dubrow segment.

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Essential Takeaways

• Reunion seating reflects production’s drama needs more than who truly delivered or is liked.
• The authenticity of on-screen friendships is questioned—few would survive without cameras.
• Jen and Katie’s falling out, and Matt’s involvement, sparked heavy debate on loyalty, performance, and support.
• Dr. Terry Dubrow’s drop-in provided both medical clarity and reality husband advice in a way only he can.

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For Further Listening

• [12:50] – Alexis proposes the “Housewives Friendship Paradox.”
• [14:09] – Teddi critiques Katie’s reunion approach.
• [38:22] – Dr. Dubrow’s “can you break a penis?” medical Q&A.
• [39:57] – “Never argue with a housewife because you will lose 100% of the time.”

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Summary prepared for listeners who missed the episode but want a lively, thorough recap of BravoCon 2025’s juiciest RHOC reunion moments—with all the shade, insight, and medical fun that Two Ts In A Pod delivers.

Transcript

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Two teas in a pod with Teddy.

[Alexis Bellino]

Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself and Alexis. Hi.

Hey, guys.

We are recapping Real Housewives of Orange county from BravoCon. Wow, we're in Vegas.

Lots of Bravo liberties around here right now.

Lots of Bravo liberties walking around. So I have a quick question for you before we get into recapping episode two. What were your thoughts on episode one of the reunion?

It's really hard to put myself back in that place because after Reunion two, episode two, I'm deep in the thoughts of that. But I feel like they owe me a paycheck because Carlos counted and my name was mentioned six times. And where is my money?

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Where's my money? How many times has I mentioned this to you? I don't know.

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Do you know?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know, but I should be rich.

Teddi, we both should not be having to buy like two ply toilet paper. But you guys have four ply toilet paper in your bathroom that says two.

T's right now at the hotel, but at home it's one ply.

Well, I have to come to your house for a piece of bubble gum because I don't. I didn't make a dime off of the show.

Well, so the episode starts out. It's Jen and Tamara agree that they don't know where they stand with each other. Jen says it's hard to navigate Tamara. She feels she just doesn't like her. Andy asked if Tamara showed the old picture of Jen because she wanted to prove that Jen physically changed to look more like Tamara, and she says yes. Jen confronts Tamara, accusing her of an affair, and Tamara says she shouldn't have said anything without proof. Jen says she didn't even know who Tamara was or watched the show, but she did DM Tamara in 2013. So.

Okay, let Me, I want to know first. I have a lot of thoughts on this. I want to know where you stand and what your thought and you know, it's okay if we agree to disagree.

That's fine. The thing I'm a little bit confused is why does Jen have first seat? Because she doesn't deliver.

Okay, so I already disagree with that.

You think she delivers?

I think she delivered amazing. I do, I do. I think she's. I think she's got this. She's found her voice. I think the first season, kind of like Katy last season, I felt like Katy froze on the couch at the reunion and I feel like she froze in scene, like when you're on the moment and then she's great in her confessionals. I feel like Jen delivered. I feel like everyone's questioning, like she doesn't have all of, you know, she forgets things so quickly when it's convenient for her. I get that. That's what the audience thinks. But I do think she delivers a good show.

She's likable.

She's likable and she does bring something to the equation. I do feel that.

Yeah, I don't think she should be. I think she should be a part of the show. I just didn't.

What seat would you have given her?

Second.

Okay, who would you have had first? Next to Heather?

[Alexis Bellino]

Really?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I would have had her. Yeah. On the other side of the couch. Yeah.

Wow. Okay, well.

Okay. Okay, well who would you.

Well, I think, I think they. The way they set it up was perfect. I think it was. I think, I mean, I personally think Katie deserved a closer seat because even though she was, you know, iced out a little bit, she did bring a lot of the first six episodes. Ish. Six ish episodes to the forefront and made the ratings amazing for those episodes. So I believe she deserved a little bit further up.

Oh, gosh. We're going to disagree on a lot of things today, Teddy.

The one, the one good thing you have is I'm in five inch heels and I'm exhausted. So there's no scrapping. Okay. There will be no.

And I'm in flat and riddled. So, you know. But this is the message that Jen Ellsworth Padrante sent to Tamara back in 2013, even though supposedly she didn't know her and she just randomly showed up at the gym. Hi, Tamara, I hope you don't mind I'm messaging you. I live in Ladera and was talking to a friend of mine this am I asked her if she knew anyone that could do this procedure I'm thinking about having, she said, gosh, I wish you knew Tamara. I think she did it and used the same doctor. I know one person, and she told me her story, and I'm scared to get death. Okay, this doesn't even really matter what she says here, but what this proves is she knew Tamara. So just say, yeah, I knew Tamara and. And I was a fan, not a fan. Now, she could have said that. I would have liked it.

Yeah. So your beef is that you fibbing? Okay.

I don't like when people. It's fine.

I don't like fibbing.

I don't mind if, like, holding your.

Tongue or like, guarding your tongue, as the Bible would say, but like. Or like not saying everything but you feel like Jen is fibbing.

I feel like if you're going to start there, what else are you going to fib about?

[Alexis Bellino]

But.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because if somebody would have asked me, if somebody were to ask me tomorrow, would I do another reality television show, and I said, no, are you fibbing? I would be. I would want to.

You would.

I wouldn't want to go back to Beverly Hills, but I'd want to do.

You do something else.

I do something else.

Got it?

Yeah.

Okay. Where do you think Jen is fibbing? Because Jen. Is Jen saying, like. Like you think Jen is saying, I never knew Tamra before because I've heard Jen say on. On this. Even at this past reunion that we're getting ready to recap. I. Or that we're recapping now. I thought Jen was like, yeah, we knew each other.

No, she's saying before she went and, like, sought her out, came to the gym.

Tamara's saying Jen sought her out. And you're saying Jen said no, she didn't.

Yeah, Jen saying, I had no idea who this even was. I just liked Eddie.

Okay, See, I. And see, that's what.

And she said, loved Eddie, by the way, which is she's.

And Eddie's sitting right there, and I'm watching his. You know what's funny is that that's what different viewers take different from the scene because I captured from that scene that Jen was basically saying, yeah, I kind of knew who you were. Kind of was doing my thing. Did this, did that. Made fun of putting your hair in my head and moving on.

But she didn't even double down on putting the hair in the head, like, take ownership of the things.

I agree. Okay. I agree with that. But she did tell me and laughed about it. Like, I thought it's funny. I thought America would think Funny too. It's like, okay, I struck, stuck those.

In it again and then took them up.

Yeah.

Like, don't just wait it out. Like, I just didn't appreciate her silence in moments where she could have been a little bit more.

You feel like she's not being as authentic as you want is what I'm gathering.

I know that I'm forgetful right now. I also had stage four cancer and Teddy on a psychotherapy.

Not comparable at all.

And so the fact that she can't remember convers conversations that she had days ago, weeks ago, months ago, and she's always flip flopping bugs me.

Yeah. I think that I haven't, I haven't read anything on social media, but I do hear from people on my team that that is kind of what. What the general consensus is. But that's also what's hard about podcasting. And being in this real moment is like, because I do love her. And I know you have a beef with her, and I know Tamara has a beef with her, but I do not really have a beef with her. I feel like her and I can maybe squash the beef, to be honest.

Oh, you're ready to be friends. Would you come back to oc?

I had a great time.

She would.

I had a great time. I'm gonna leave it at that.

Okay. All right, so we know what that means, guys. All right, then. Continuing on, Andy asked Gina if she thinks Shannon and Jen's relationship is fake. And Gina says that she would tiptoe during conversations about Shannon and not say what she really felt. I didn't actually agree with this. I think that, I think, I know that, you know, it's gonna be hard for you to like to me, Shannon and Jen, you know, they're not. Maybe they're not best friends, but I think they get along just fine.

I do, I do think that their friendship seems real. And this is how I can remove myself from my own experience. Because when you're podcasting, you're here. It's kind of like a broadcaster, reporter, whatever. You're here to speak the truth about what you've seen on tv, what I witnessed from that and the whole season with Jen and Shannon, I do think they have a true friendship, as much of a friendship as Shannon could have. Because if you think about it, she dropped Tamara right away when she's quit the show. And that has been what has been evidenced by other friendships that have been spoken about. So hopefully, maybe Shannon learned and is now like, okay, I need to keep my friendships authentic, even if what If Jen gets fired next season, what do you think? And Shannon stays on, or flip it, what if Shannon gets fired and Jen stays on, Then what do you think would happen with that friendship? That's the true question.

I think that friendship would be over if one of them got the boot.

I think.

I think they're in different stages of their life. I think that we gotta be. This is what we also have to talk about in the world of housewives. It never works when people are in dramatic different stages of their life.

Very true. And I think it's also really gonna be blunt and weird for people to hear. Some people might like it, some people might hate it. Sorry. It's my opinion, as Tamla would say. I'm gonna say my opinion, but I feel as if none of these women would be friends if the cameras went down. Because if you look at Tamara and I. I'm not filming. Haven't been on for a year. We're very tight. You know, I'm still trying to connect with Jen and get that we have a hard conversation that needs to be had. And I feel that way with Katie too. Katie and I have squashed it and moved. We're like, okay, the Minouche, let's move on. But I don't feel like many of those women, if they don't get the re up next season, we'll stay. Would stay friends. I don't.

Well, what is your thought on Katie and Matt?

I freaking love them. I love them. No, I'm sorry. You don't Tell me, Teddy. Okay, then tell me why. You need to give me a why. And you better get the why out.

Okay, so here's the thing about that. I loved Katie on the pod. I thought she was straightforward. I was ready for her to come. I was ready for her to bring it. I was ready for her to show receipts. I was ready for when they said, where's the Verizon bill? She had it and she had the calls like I wanted her to deliver. But instead what she did was she sat there with her thumb in her ass and let her husband do her dirty work.

I think Matt was a little intimidated by abrasive. Well, he was slightly abrasive, but rightly so. Everybody's going after her. Okay, here's the problem I have is that Matt is watching his wife come home crying nonstop.

[Alexis Bellino]

Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did she lie about some things? Absolutely. She owned some of those. Did she deserve the treatment she got, which is the old high school mean girl treatment? No. We are grown ass women. This is the problem. If I'm having this conversation with my 17 year old in high school or 18 year old in high school. It's totally different. That's things. They're learning their ways. We are all 35 plus.

I was like, who's 35?

I was 33 when I started this show. Everybody. Okay, 35 plus 35. I'm 48 now. But here we are. All I'm saying is everyone is a grown ass woman. So it should never be to the level that it has gotten to. Especially with Katie. My heart does go out to her and to be honest, my heart went out when Gretchen got booted out of the van. So we're supposed to be recapping the reunions too, but I'm just saying we are going through.

We're going through.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

To make the feel the feeling and just my. My heart is. I think people should have a little bit more sensitivity to the fact that like you and I, we have difference of opinion. Yeah, totally. I think Matt and Katie first of all are madly in love. I think Matt is a standup guy. Maybe she did have her thumb up her ass a little bit. If I really go back and rewatch it and look at it from your perspective, you're probably right. But I think sometimes they freeze. Katie is so good in her confessionals.

I know she's. And she was such a good interview too. And I loved her. So it's not about me not liking her.

[Alexis Bellino]

I actually.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She just freezes a little. But is what frustrates me.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

But also I kind of got secondhand embarrassment that Matt was the only guy that came out.

Well, I think he was gobsmacked by that. I think he was like kind of. You think he didn't know because he said he goes, where's Slate? I thought he was coming. That's the only reason I came today. He said that at the reunion.

He goes on reunion too.

Okay, see, that's why it's good to talk it through. Because now I want to go back and watch the scene with Katie and see if she really did sit there like you said. But like he, he said to Gretchen, where is Slade? He's why I came. I wanted to talk to him about this and get this cleared up.

Well, either way, I was a little bit embarrassed. Secondhand embarrassment for myself.

The show's really good at making surprises happen, though. So there you go. It's why Bravo's doing a good job with all these housewife shows.

Well, then we get through. Andy asks if Jen misses her friendship with Katie, and Jen says she doesn't know what is real in the friendship. There are things that Katie does that doesn't make sense in a real friendship. Like what?

I don't know. But what I gathered from that is Jen is saying. She said Jen's words were something similar to what you. The stories don't always line up or something like that. It was to that I might. Don't make me verbatim, Teddy, and come to me next time and tell me I did it wrong. But I'm just saying something along those lines. And so I think that what Jen feels. And by the way, they both have their own. Jen and Katie both have different feelings about what happened. But it was obvious that Jen is frustrated and feels as if certain things don't line up with Katie's stories, which is evident.

She doesn't actually ever really say that to Katie. We never have a scene where she's like, I don't believe you.

Except at the reunion. That's what I think she was trying to say right then.

Okay.

That's what I think Jen was trying to politely say to her is, your stories don't add up.

But just say I stopped being your.

Friend because I don't trust you and give examples.

I don't need word vomit. And I want proof.

I would if I was.

I want timeline.

If I was in Katie's seat at that moment and you had been telling me that, and it's like you and I were doing it, I would be like, okay, Teddi, tell me what then. What doesn't add up. Give me something.

Yeah. Give me something tangible. Yeah, but maybe she. Maybe she doesn't remember anything. Maybe she can't remember because she can't. She for sure can't keep her story straight. But here's the good news. We're halfway through talking about this, and we've talked about Jen, we've talked about Katie, and we brushed on Tamara. Okay, so we need. What I need from a reunion is a little bit more Phil. I need to talk. Be able to talk about everybody.

Okay, well, you've left out Heather, Gina, Emily. And I mean, so you went from. You went Jen, Katie, and Tamara. That's why Jen has second seat. Because Jen is the most talked about. Right. Jen's first seat or first seat. I mean, first seat. Yes. Thank you. That's why Jen has first seat. What I'm saying is we've brushed on those three, but look at who the three names are. I know precisely why Katie needed a bigger seat.

So, ladies, we need to figure it out. We can't be just having Tamara do your dirty work.

I literally didn't want to come in here like, guns ablaze. And I know I'm on the twats right now, but it's like, I feel so frustrated for Tamara. And, like, we also, you and I both know the behind the scenes of how she feels and all of that, so it's hard to have your friend be in such a bad position. And watching her go through last season, you know, dying on the sword for me, like, I.

Which I warned her about, by the way.

She didn't listen, did she?

No, she didn't. I warned her. I said, this is gonna bite you in the ass.

Well, guess what, Teddy. You spoke very harshly and badly about me and John on your podcast, and here we are, reunited, doing this together. Because this is a podcast. Hello.

We have fluorescent lighting that say two T's in a pod, and we're shitting on our own names. So, like, clearly, this isn't about.

All I'm saying is, you know, you told Tamra not to do that, and Tamra felt something. Convicted. Cause if you could have felt some of the scenes that Tam and I had together on season 18, which was last season, you would have known the truth behind our love and our friendship, like you would have, because you feel it. Like when she came in and sat down with you. Right now.

I feel like Jen misses Katie as much as Tam or missed Gretchen, which.

Took me a minute. Okay. I'm, like, connecting the dots. I'm like, okay, wait, wait, wait.

Where?

Lego Legos. Wow.

Yeah.

Wow, Teddy.

Yeah. Then Gretchen and Jen are confronted about the tick tock they made. That was taken down because it was offensive. Katie says she doesn't think it was aimed towards her, but it was insensitive. She says that Jen never apologized to her. Gretchen did. But Katie thinks AI wrote her apology.

What do you think of that? I'm watching your eyes, right? Like I'm watching you. I can't wait to hear your thoughts.

Well, one. Gretcher's drives me freaking nuts. Gretcher's is bugs like no other. So for me, Gretcher's saying it was AI. I mean, her saying it was AI About Gretcher's, I. You know.

[Alexis Bellino]

I think.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know. I don't Know how she speaks. I don't know the woman.

I don't know either, but I think.

Were you never on the show with her?

I was, but I don't.

But you don't know her either.

I don't know if she's. She's been engaged to a guy for 16 years, and I've only been a part of, like, two of those years, so I don't.

I'm surprised you never dated Slade.

Oh, f. Oh, I mean.

[Alexis Bellino]

I mean.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, fudge. Oh, fudge. Oh, no. And he'd probably say the same, so it's all. It's all okay. We're washing it here. Because he'd probably be like, I wouldn't date her either. I mean, whatever. But, no, I. I don't know her. I also was, like, her closest friend when I came on. She was 32, I was 33. We became fast best friends, and then she shit on me so bad that it's like. It's like I don't know her. I don't trust her. I don't know. I feel she's a chameleon a little bit.

She'll just morph into whatever's convenient.

Yeah, kinda, but at the same time, I mean, kind of like her costumes. You know, she morphs into whatever. She likes the costume. So it's kind of the same with the personality. Like, what do you think about the costumes?

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Here's the thing about the costumes. If you're gonna do a costume, you better knock it out of the park every single time. Like, do you watch? Like. Well, they popped champagne on that one in the room.

Someone's getting a champagne right now.

Little vuv.

Hey, they're not. I want to. I want to let the viewers or the listeners know they're. They are not short of vuv in this room. No, it is.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Three cases. They must want to get every celebrity drunk before they come on this podcast.

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I don't know what to call it.

Us and JLO go hand in hand.

I always. I. I always laugh so hard. I'm like, yeah, kind of like, F, G, B, H. Like, down. You know, down. We're down.

Okay, then. Slade, Ryan, and Matt weren't all invited to talk about the Naked Wasted situation.

Gosh, I can't wait to get your thoughts.

So you. You give me your thoughts because you have more of, like, a backstory. What do you think about the Naked wasted situation?

I 100% know that Gretchen and Slade have both claimed that and the refeed thing. But I really don't want. I'm being honest with you. I don't want to get into thick of it. I already have enough issues with. There's the door, b'dor. And I'm just like, I'm just over a lot of. I'm not.

But you for sure know that Gretchen and Slade shared this story.

I believe Katie, is what I'm going to say. I. 100%. First of all, Matt. Have you met Matt yet?

No, I think I would like Matt in person. I met him once in person.

He's amazing. He is a standup man. He is a one. Like, he is one of those people that literally, like, doesn't have anything to, like, skirt around or be a liar about or any of that. And also, he's in a really hard position with his getting the treatment that she got. I mean, the one thing I would like for Matt is for him to be supportive of her. But also say, Katie, you did lie about a couple things and you did. You know, we have to really own that and just.

I don't even need him to say that they lied. I just need him to, like, not.

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I just felt.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

There was a couple times he just, like, what? Too much to the other woman.

To the other women. Like when he cut Jen off. He cut Jen off? What did he do, Teddy? I forget now.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

I know he said.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He said to Jen, he goes, excuse. Like, he butted over, started talking over her, and then she was like, oh, that's rude. I agree.

And I think he might have been rude to Shannon once. I think he was rude like. But also, if your issue is with Gretchen, then have it with Gretchen.

But here's the other part to this, Teddy.

What?

He's not getting paid and he. His name is getting thrown out there.

You know what? He shouldn't be there if none of the other men were there. I'm sorry, it's. It's just weird.

He was. He was. It was kind of a throw under the bus kind of thing.

I mean, was Terry debrow there?

He thought, doesn't matter. The only three that Andy specifically said were invited were Ryan, Matt, and Slade. Those were the three.

I would have needed to know that the other ones were coming before going.

Yeah, well, here's the thing. When you're in reality tv, Teddi, you were on a long time ago, and you were on a lot of seasons. I was on a long time ago in a lot of seasons. And it's like you learn after watching and learning, it's hard when you're in the moment. And he wanted to be there to defend his wife. He wanted to be. He's such a good guy.

But then he talked for her the whole time.

I don't think he talked for her. Andi was asking him the question.

The questions were to Matt and then he would sh people.

I don't blame him, I have to say. I mean, I put myself in that. If that was John. Oh, we all saw what happens when I'm John's getting attacked because you better watch out because this little 2 inch bicep becomes 12 inches very fast.

I'm just telling you, she's like a wiener, guys. She just gross.

I'm not a wiener. I am more. I have a little bit of a muscle than more than a wiener. Okay.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Who said they broke someone's wiener this year? Well, I. I don't know.

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Who was that?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Gretchen.

And said she broke Slade's wiener and it went like this.

I still never heard of that. Oh, Terry debrow just walked in. Let me ask if this is actually a thing. Terry. Terry, you're on the pod. You're on the pod. Really quickly, can you break your wiener? Actually, yes, you can fracture your wiener.

So we're trying to figure out and get to the bottom of this whole. Gretchen and Slade, come over here. Yeah. Papa squat.

Come on.

Dr. Debrow, Papa Squat. So. So we are trying to get to the bottom of this, and we are not obviously surgeons, so. So she did not think it's possible. I believe it could be because anything that long can be like, it could be broken.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

Well. Oh, the length has to do susceptibility fracture.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I don't think this is gonna this long.

If it has a good amount of girth, I feel like it would be harder for. For it to be fractured.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

Well, it penis composed of various tubes and soft tissue structures, right. That have density and you can fracture them. That's a real thing. A fractured penis.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I kind of want to cut a penis in half and just see what's in there.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

Oh, I can see why you want to do that. Don't tell John.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That poor guy.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

Hi, honey. Hi, honey. I've decided I want to cut a penis today in half.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So did you watch the reunion?

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you watch anything?

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So I said Heather should have first seat.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

Oh, you did?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

And she didn't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She didn't. She.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

All right, so the shear. Yeah, I don't, I, I, I, I want to stay friends with everyone, so I purposely don't watch anything that. Why? That way, when I go into a scene, it's like, hey, how are you? I have no idea if you're trashing my wife or you're happy with my wife.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Actually, husbands of any reality or wives of any reality TV star. Sorry, star. D list celebrity, please remember to not watch so that you can be friends with everyone in the room. I love that.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

When I meet a house husband who's new on the show, the first thing I say to them is, hey, here's the rules of engagement. Never argue with a housewife because you will lose 100% of the time.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And that's what.

This is my point, though. This is my point. Why it didn't really work out for Matt.

Matt, I feel, got screwed, though. Teddi, that's where you and I are a little bit different on this. I feel like you this season, just.

To keep you up to date, only one of the husbands up.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

It was not on the reunion.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Matt, Slade, and Ryan all got invited to go talk about the naked wasted roofied night.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

I knew about that and.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And only Matt showed up. But Matt thought everyone else Was going to be there.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

Was it a mistake or not showing up?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I thought it was a mistake. She thought it wasn't, by the way.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

Oh, really? You thought it wasn't?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I feel like he needed he. When you're in that position. If he needs to get his voice heard, I would. I honor that because this is a fricking hard. It's hard.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

But look, the two others who didn't show, they. It was a good idea they didn't show up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was a good. Because we're not talking about them as much.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

Yeah. I don't know if you remember, 100 years ago, I showed up to one of these.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, boy.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

And it was a huge mistake. That was the season where I called David Beador a penis, which was a huge mistake.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did you ever get eaten alive?

Was it a broken penis or.

[Alexis Bellino]

Right.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

It was a fractured penis. My penis was fractured making that movie. No, but it was. Like I said, we have a term for you in anatomy. It's called penis. I thought it was being funny. Totally backfired on me. It didn't work, and it was a huge mistake.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did you plan the line before you said it?

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

I did.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You did?

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

100%.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, that. Those. Those never work. That's the problem.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

Never plan a line. And by the way, so now I show up. I have no idea what the storyline is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I like when you're a little bit stoned.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

I know, I know. By the way. Yeah, I thought. Okay, so I'm stoned on the show.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Try one of those shroom thingies. I. I don't know. I was excited about it.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

We have weed at a weed part. I mean, have a weed station every party.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, that was smart.

Shrooms. I'm talking about the shroom thing.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

So anyway.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, well, okay, so you get.

Long story short, we got a celebrity in here today. We didn't even know Dr. Durreau was.

Going to come on this. He looked behind.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

You can dismiss me now if you like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I'm like, you're out. We gotta close out this show.

Next celebrity coming in. Thank you very much.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

Very much. You look amazing. I'm happy to see you're doing so well. You look beautiful.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

[Dr. Terry Dubrow]

You have no idea. I'm so happy about that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you for your.

Your interesting feedback about the penis configurations and if they can really break.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes, yes, yes.

Yeah. Come here. Terry Debro, get over here. All I know is I'm going to be very careful with my husband. Moving forward because now that we know it's real, Teddy, you can't break his penis. I am not breaking anything on that man. No, I'm not breaking.

Oh my.

And yeah, your your little 35 year old. He may look all buff and everything, but be careful with that penis girl.

Well, thanks guys for tuning in to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod. That was our kind of recap of episode two of the reunion.

It was fabulous.

Thanks Alexis.

Bye guys.

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