Twots Take BravoCon 2025 (Jesse Lally)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod: Twots Take BravoCon 2025 (with Jesse Lally)

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Date: November 13, 2025
Guest: Jesse Lally (The Valley)
Setting: Live from BravoCon, Las Vegas

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Overview

In this BravoCon-special episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge welcome Jesse Lally from "The Valley" as a guest co-host. The trio discuss their experiences at the fan-packed BravoCon event, share stories from their reality TV journeys, and delve into personal moments—most notably, Jesse’s recent divorce and Tamra’s new marriage. Their candid conversations explore what it’s like to be a Bravolebrity both on and off screen, the supportive energy of the Bravo fandom, and the reality of managing public perception and personal change.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. BravoCon First Impressions & Atmosphere

(03:27–07:21)

• Jesse Lally shares his excitement attending his first BravoCon, noting how surreal it is to be recognized and how fans seek out Bravo stars for photos and conversation.
  • “I just happened to be walking around...and a couple people came up to me and said, 'Oh, my God, can I take a picture with you?'” (05:18, Jesse)
• Tamra and Jesse note the unique gathering of Bravo talent and fans in a single Las Vegas hotel, creating an electric and positive environment.
  • Tamra assures Jesse that, unlike online interactions, no one is “mean to your face,” and fans at BravoCon are overwhelmingly kind.
    • “No one is mean to your face. They will not come up and yell at you...But they do give a lot of love.” (07:28, Tamra)

2. Fan Encounters & the Bravo Universe

(04:50–08:13)

• Jesse recounts flying in with other Bravo stars (notably Sheena Shay and cast from “Persian Style”) and describes the wave of support and excitement from fans.
  • The group discusses the thrill of random BravoLib encounters and the sense of community among both the cast and fans.
• Jesse mentions watching other Bravo shows recently—he’s four seasons into “Southern Charm” and dreams of meeting Patricia for a martini.
  • “If anyone asks, who are you most excited to meet? I want to have a martini with Patricia from Southern Charm.” (08:32, Jesse)

3. Bravo Family & Mutual Respect

(08:13–09:37)

• Tamra reflects on the diversity of Bravo personalities and the shared bond of doing reality TV, which is more challenging than viewers realize.
  • “It's not easy to be on a reality TV show. So it's fun, and I appreciate each person for where they are...for this career that we have all fallen into.” (09:13, Tamra)
• Jesse observes that, across different shows, the authenticity and vulnerability of cast members resonates with fans.

4. Personal Updates: Divorce, Marriage, and Moving On

(10:20–14:11, 19:43–20:29)

• Tamra and Jesse acknowledge big life moments: Jesse has finalized a divorce while Tamra recently remarried. They toast to both new beginnings.
  • “Cheers to that.” (10:28, Tamra and group)
• Jesse opens up about the emotional journey of his divorce:
  • The divorce process lasted 2.5 years; he describes how the emotional detachment happened much earlier than the paperwork.
    • “It’s not like signing the papers...was a weight off my shoulders...But for me it was like when I found out she was in this relationship, [five months after separation], I moved on.” (12:14, Jesse)
  • Jesse shares a poignant memory:
    • “The same moving company that moved us into the house, moved her into her new place... I looked at my master closet, and it was...missing, you know, holes in the closet...It was just me.” (13:21, Jesse)
  • Tamra empathizes, sharing her own divorce experience, reflecting on how closure can come at different times for different people.
    • “A lot of people feel like you have to wait till the ink is on the paper and your divorce is finalized, which neither is right or wrong.” (13:05, Tamra)
• Tamra shares a light moment about her wedding planner handling both of her weddings (to different people), underscoring the full-circle nature of life events.
  • “My wedding planner that planned my wedding to my husband, ex-husband of my children, 20 years ago, was my wedding planner for this wedding.” (19:43, Tamra)

5. Lighthearted Games and Banter

(20:29–21:39)

• The hosts initiate a playful paddle game where Jesse has to guess which host—Teddi or Tamra—would “jump off the bridge” for the other.
• Jesse jokes he only listens to episodes he’s on, and tries to guess the personalities, bringing laughter to the group.
  • “I only really listen to myself on the podcast, so…” (20:56, Jesse)

6. Bravo Connections & Closing Moments

(21:39–22:07)

• Tamra and Jesse note their various connections—through Orange County, mutual friends, and now as castmates and new lovers, comically tying a bow on their shared experience.
  • “And we have love together. We both...are both in love with new loves.” (22:01, Tamra)

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Memorable Quotes with Timestamps

• On BravoCon Experience:
  “It’s everybody coming together and running into people in the lobby. And then I just happened to be walking around...‘Can I take a picture with you?’” — Jesse Lally (05:18)
• On Fan Interactions:
  “No one is mean to your face. They will not come up and yell at you...But they do give a lot of love.” — Tamra Judge (07:28)
• On Being Part of the Bravo Universe:
  “It's not easy to be on a reality TV show. So it's fun, and I appreciate each person...for this career that we have all fallen into.” — Tamra Judge (09:13)
• On Divorce and Letting Go:
  “Once I found out she was in this relationship...I moved on. So signing the paperwork was...just signing papers.” — Jesse Lally (12:14) “I looked at my master closet, and it was, like, missing...That was when it happened for me...It was just me.” — Jesse Lally (13:21)
• On Resilience:
  “A lot of people feel like you have to wait till the ink is on the paper and your divorce is finalized...neither is right or wrong.” — Tamra Judge (13:05)
• On Bravo Family:
  “It’s very exciting to see...a group of people across the entire Bravo universe who are willing to put all of that stuff out...being as authentic and vulnerable as they can.” — Jesse Lally (09:38)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• BravoCon Arrival and Fan Interactions – 03:34–07:21
• Community, Shows, and Shared Experiences – 07:22–09:37
• Personal Life Updates (Divorce, Marriage) – 10:20–14:11
• Wedding Planner Anecdote – 19:43–20:29
• Paddle Game and Host Banter – 20:29–21:39
• Wrap-Up/Shared Connections – 21:39–22:07

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Tone and Vibe

• Light-hearted, candid, and conversational
• Warm camaraderie and mutual respect among hosts and guest
• A blend of meaningful personal sharing and playful Bravo banter
• A celebration of both life’s challenges and its joyful, serendipitous moments

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For Listeners

This episode provides a behind-the-scenes peek into BravoCon as experienced by the stars themselves. It’s filled with fun, laughter, and heart—perfect for Bravo superfans and anyone interested in the lives behind the reality TV personas. Whether you’re invested in their storylines or just want to feel part of the Bravo community, this is a must-listen for realness, resilience, and reality TV joy.

Transcript

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Hi, it's Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Welcome back to two T's in a Pod live from Bravocon in Las Vegas.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

It's such a fun, busy weekend and. And we want to make sure you get as many episodes as possible. So we have a special guest co host for you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Alexis Bellino is here. Take it away, Alexis.

[Tamara Judge]

Jesse. Jesse. Jesse, Jesse.

[Jesse Lally]

Jesse Lally from the Valley. I just. I walked into the wrong room. I thought it was my room. Here I am, two T's in a pod. Once again, throwback to my first podcast ever. Nice to meet you.

[Tamara Judge]

It's nice to meet you. But this is a suite. Honey, you are in. You are in the two cheese in a podcast suite. Like two or three bedroom suite.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't even.

[Jesse Lally]

Snacks, Amazing snacks.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you get some salami?

[Jesse Lally]

I got some salami.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. So it's so fun to finally meet you. I have heard a lot about you. I obviously, everyone knows the show that you're on, but I'm wondering from you, this is your first Bravocon, right?

[Jesse Lally]

First Bravocon.

[Tamara Judge]

So I'm wondering from you, you've only been here a hot second. I mean, it started about three hours ago, but what has happened? What has it been like so far? Have people recognized you in the hallway? How was your flight?

[Jesse Lally]

It was amazing. The flight we flew in jet suite, met other Bravo celebrities that I had, you know, never met before.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, hold on, hold on. We're potting right now. You got to who?

[Jesse Lally]

You got to do details. I met a couple people from the upcoming Persian Style, the Valley, formerly Shahs of Sunset. Sheena Shay was on my flight, but I've also seen on Instagram the Kyle Cooks running into so and so at the airport. And it's just. It's everybody coming together and running into people in the lobby. And then I just happened to be walking around looking at like the layout of the hotel. And a couple people came up to me and said, oh, my God, can I take a picture with you? I heard everybody staying at the Four Seasons. Can you confirm who else is gonna be here? And I'm like, I think everybody's staying in Encore or just me.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, well, I love that personality about it because that's a very witty, quick thing to say. But, yeah, everyone's here. It is crazy. You just, you, you, you walk out the room and there's four other Bravo liberties. So guess what? BravoCon's real and it's big.

[Jesse Lally]

I know. I'm excited. I'm excited. I, I actually did Kristen and Luke's podcast also on the Valley, and, and she was asking about how excited we were as first timers because she's been here before. And I will tell you, I have had two trips to Vegas since the show premiered. And both trips 24 hour just for show or concert and the fan base that comes to Las Vegas. I remember going back and I asked a couple people, why was it so crazy? I was in Vegas for 24 hours and people are screaming my name. And this is the demographic of people that watch Bravo.

[Tamara Judge]

Strippers and gamblers. Everybody, everybody wants to come to Vegas.

[Jesse Lally]

It's like people from all over the country, they cut. They come here to have fun. And, you know, it's, it's, it's exciting to see. And I can't imagine when it's all focused on Bravo, how wild it's going to be.

[Tamara Judge]

It is crazy. And I, I love positive energy. I really do. I know people think from what you see on TV is, is one way, but I mean, I hope you even feel my positive energy here right now. But I love it because it doesn't feel heavy at all. Everyone is screaming, happy, excited, grab another cocktail. Good to see you. Can I have a photo? It's just a fun time.

[Jesse Lally]

Yeah. I asked somebody recently, you know, are there going to be people yelling and screaming like you're a douchebag or you're.

[Tamara Judge]

This, Wait till tonight. Well, they won't say that. No one. No one. I'll tell you what I have Learned in my 15 years of reality being on reality TV. No one is mean to your face. They will not come up and yell at you and say you're a douchebag. And you did. I don't like that you did this scene on one of your episodes or whatever. But they do give a lot of love. Even the person that's probably typing later tonight about how they don't like something about you. They're so kind here. And everyone's having fun.

[Jesse Lally]

I mean, everyone's paying to come here to enjoy this experience. And from what I've been told, it is very positive.

[Commercial Announcer 3]

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[Jesse Lally]

Everybody who is here is here for the right reason. I was told to be careful what I say at the bar when I'm at the lobby of the hotel.

[Tamara Judge]

This is true.

[Jesse Lally]

This is. Yeah, no, this is 100%. Everybody's here. Everybody's here to enjoy their weekend. And. And, you know, I'm excited. I was never a major reality watcher, but if since after meeting a lot of different people have started watching some shows. So, like, what I am currently, for four seasons into Southern Charm, and I will tell you, if anyone asks, who are you most excited to meet? I want to have a martini with Patricia from Southern Charm, because she is.

[Tamara Judge]

This is good, guys. This is good.

[Jesse Lally]

Who of anyone you don't know, would you like to meet while here at Bravoco?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh. Like, honest to God, we just started three companies, and I have six kids now, and I just got married. The last thing I can do is watch tv.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

I am.

[Tamara Judge]

But I've also been on Bravo for quite a few years. Like four at the beginning and then one last year. So I've met a lot of these people, and I love them all. I think they're. Everyone has their, you know, their niche or their reason that they're so amazing. And you also have to remember Jesse, as you know now it is not easy to be on a reality TV show. So it's kind of. It's fun, and I just. I appreciate each person for where they are and that we're all here coming together for this career that we have all fallen into.

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It's.

[Jesse Lally]

It's. It's very exciting. It's very exciting to see, you know, a group of people across the entire Bravo universe who are willing to put all of that stuff out, you know, and tell this story about themselves with, you know, being as authentic and vulnerable as they can and now getting to meet all of them and, you know, you know, also watching shows, the more I watch, the more I see these, like, similar character, you know, characters across different shows, and, you know, they know what they're doing, and they, you know, the people love each individual show and each individual character. It's very exciting.

[Tamara Judge]

And you just said you love how everyone's so open and real. So you just completed a divorce and I just completed a marriage.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Right?

[Tamara Judge]

So, cheers. Let's cheers to that.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Cheers to that.

[Jesse Lally]

Yeah, yeah. Congrats. Congratulations.

[Tamara Judge]

And congratulations.

[Jesse Lally]

I'm so sorry for you. No, I'm just kidding. Wait, wait.

[Tamara Judge]

You can't be on the John Jansen bad bus already.

[Jesse Lally]

Listen, listen, I say over and over again, I love, love. It didn't work out for my ex wife and I, but we have a beautiful five year old daughter and we're doing really, really well. But yeah, the divorce was finalized just a week or two ago.

[Commercial Announcer 3]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

So I'm gonna ask one serious question, then we're gonna go back to the fun of it. But what was your feeling when that happened? Because I've been divorced, you know this, right. And I'm now married, but it was only eight years ago or seven years ago. So what was that feeling when the papers. Mine happened fast. We were like with a mediator. We got it done. I wasn't smart enough to probably handle it the way I should have, but it is what it is. But what did it feel like now that. That part is because you are with a very serious rela. In a serious relationship.

[Jesse Lally]

Yeah. So ours took a little bit longer. Ours was about two and a half years and everybody's asked me that how did it feel in the moment? And when I signed the paperwork, my ex wife sat across the table from me and she was crying. And for her it just felt like a weight had been lifted off her shoulders. For me, a couple months after we separated, we had kept it a secret for a while. Then she immediately, within a couple weeks, was in a relationship. So once I found out who that person was and we made it public, I was done. So for me, fast forward almost two years later.

[Tamara Judge]

Hold on. One question real quick. Sorry to interrupt you. So she started dating somebody before you even knew it. And it was very soon in the relationship and that's when you were like.

[Jesse Lally]

Okay, now that's when I sort of, for me, it was like immediate, like, all right, this is over, I'm done. Yeah. It's not like signing the papers, you know, was a weight off my shoulders or it made me feel lighter, which my ex wife said it did for her. But for me it was like when I found out she was in this relationship, I, you know, five months after we separated, I moved on. I had already moved on. So signing the paperwork was for me, just signing papers.

[Tamara Judge]

You know, Jesse, that is such like, I don't like we're at Bravocon. We're not supposed to be talking deep right now. But the one thing I know is that when my ex, Jim and I, the father of my children, and I decided to divorce. It was pretty much like when one of us went to the courthouse. From that moment on, it was done for me. But, you know, a lot of people don't feel that. A lot of people feel like you have to wait till the ink is on the paper and your divorce is finalized, which neither is right or wrong, in my opinion. You have to do what feels good for you and works for your family at the time. But that's an interesting story. That's something I didn't know about you. And that's not just out there.

[Jesse Lally]

Yeah, it was.

[Tamara Judge]

You're talking from the heart right now.

[Jesse Lally]

Yeah, yeah, no, 100%. It was for me. I'll never forget. Five months after we separated, she moved out in the same moving company that moved us into the house, moved her into her new place. And literally, they walked out and the guy said to me, enjoy your bachelor pad. And I thought about it. I looked at my master closet, and it was, like, missing, you know, holes in the closet. And I. That was when it happened for me. I was like, oh, my God, this is. I can. I can put all my suits in this section, and I can. And then all of a sudden, it was. It was me. It was just me. All I had was me and, you know, my daughter. And then I think for my ex wife, I could see the emotion when I actually signed the papers.

[Tamara Judge]

So you guys had it at different times.

[Jesse Lally]

We had a. Different times, yeah.

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Jesse Lally]

It would have been amazing if you wanted the exact same palette. And she's like, nah, that didn't work out so well last time. Let's make it all black. Let's just make everything black.

[Tamara Judge]

Nobody's in white except you. Or you're in black. And everyone else is exactly perfect. Okay, that is. Okay.

[Jesse Lally]

So back to the fun. Let's get. Let's get away from.

[Tamara Judge]

I have a fun question for you.

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Okay, okay.

[Tamara Judge]

So I've got a paddle here for you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

There's one of Teddy and one of Tamara. I have a question to ask you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

And you're gonna hold up the paddle. We're gonna have to. There's no cameras, so we're gonna have to just talk. Put them down. And then now you're gonna tell me.

[Jesse Lally]

Hold them both.

[Tamara Judge]

You're gonna. You're gonna pick one and hold it up, and we're see if we have the same answer. Okay. Between. Have you listened to Teddy and Tamra on their podcast or do you even know a little bit about their personality? Otherwise, this game's not gonna work.

[Jesse Lally]

I mean, I only really listen to myself on the podcast, so. Untrue.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, then guess what? This will be hysterical because you don't really know. So I'm gonna ask you a question.

[Jesse Lally]

All right? You have to hold up one or the other, right?

[Tamara Judge]

You're gonna choose Tamara or Teddi.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

Who do you think would be the first to jump off the bridge for the other person between Teddi and Tamara? You gotta hold them both.

[Jesse Lally]

Oh, damn it. I. I was gonna say Dolores, because that seems like every episode I've ever listened to. She's filling in for Tamara.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer 3]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

That's a good one. We don't have a face of her. We only have Teddy and Tamara.

[Jesse Lally]

Correct. All right, so going on now. I'm sweating. I can't.

[Tamara Judge]

No, but it's been great. We have to move on to the rest of Bravocon. You have a packed schedule, so we've got to get you to your next dill. But it was really nice to actually get to sit down with you for a little bit.

[Jesse Lally]

It was nice to meet you. I love that we have the OC Connection together. I love meeting you. We have the Spencer connection together. And now here we are podcasting together.

[Tamara Judge]

And we have love together. We both have. We are both in love with new loves.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Right?

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Jesse Lally]

Amazing.

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[Jesse Lally]

Nice to meet you.

[Tamara Judge]

Nice to meet you too.

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[Tamara Judge]

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