Twots Take BravoCon 2025 (Keiarna Stewart)

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: “Twots Take BravoCon 2025 (Keiarna Stewart)”
Original Air Date: November 15, 2025
Guest: Ashley Darby (The Real Housewives of Potomac)

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode recorded live from Las Vegas during BravoCon 2025, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge welcome Potomac Housewife Ashley Darby and co-host Keiarna Stewart for a candid, fun, and shade-filled conversation about all things “Housewives.” From behind-the-scenes BravoCon stories to inside cast relationships, Ashley holds nothing back as she dishes about shade-throwing, cast drama, what it’s really like to be in the hot seat, and her thoughts on the new Potomac cast members. The result is a rapid-fire and intimate look into the shadiest, wildest, and most heartfelt moments in the Bravo universe.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Initial Banter and Impressions at BravoCon

• The hosts compliment Ashley and Keiarna’s appearance, setting a casual and friendly tone.
• Ashley reflects on her first BravoCon, admitting she felt nervous but quickly realized, “I’m like, oh, no, everyone still loves me.” (05:08)
• The group discusses the social perks of BravoCon and the affirmation it brings after a dramatic season.

2. Shade-Throwing and Cast Dynamics

• Ashley points to Giselle as the undisputed “Queen of Shade” in Potomac:

  “Giselle definitely throws the most shade. It’s not even a question at all. Giselle’s gonna throw that shade. It’s like confetti, and she’s so good at it.” (04:31)

• The panel laughs about the artistry of throwing shade and how Giselle can insult while smiling, escaping notice.

3. BravoCon Events & Panel Highlights

• Ashley reports on her day:

  “Today I did the panel. We did the Real Housewives of Potomac Takes Vegas panel... and then I’m here with you ladies.” (05:13)

• Hype gathers for “the Bravos” event that night, which Ashley is excited to attend.

4. Relationship Status With Cast Members

• When asked about her closest allies, Ashley emphasizes strong ties with most of the cast:

  “Despite what you guys are seeing, I actually have great relationships with 85% of the ladies.” (06:15)

• She highlights Tia as a particularly close friend, calling her “so sweet and so genuine.”

5. On “Chin Check” and Friendship Boundaries

• A lighthearted debate erupts over the meaning of “chin check,” with Ashley providing clarification:

  “Chin check means I’m about to address it and I’m going to check it… So to the point we’re not going to talk about this ever again. That’s all it means. It’s nothing violent.” (07:00)

• Teddi relates it to group chat drama and the fine line between confrontation and care in friendships.

6. The New Girls: Angel & Tia

• Ashley praises both new Housewives (“Angel” and “Tia”), noting Angel’s initial struggle:

  “She’s still nursing, she’s still like, you know, the postpartum of it all… So I think the feelings were, seemed a bit heavier than what we expect in Housewives.” (10:21)

• She insists that Angel will show her fun side:

  “I think after this, you get to see a little bit more of her funny side, a little more lighthearted.” (11:02)

• Tia is described as sweet, emotionally intelligent, and fitting well with the group (22:05).

7. Ashley on Upcoming Drama and the Remainder of the Season

• Ashley remains unfazed about the rest of her storyline airing:

  “After these first six episodes, whatever else got left, just let it roll.” (09:40)

• She teases fans:

  “If you thought these first seven episodes are like, what the hell? Just stay tuned. It’s a lot. In a good way. It’s a lot.” (24:21)

• Confirms there will be 17 episodes in the season.

8. Notable Bravo and Cast Moments: Karen’s Andy Cohen Interview

• Ashley expresses pride about Karen’s participation in the dramatic mid-season sit-down with Andy Cohen:

  “To just see it and just to see like... Hi Andy. It was like, Ooh, this is the moment.” (17:46)

• The group notes the rarity of Andy doing an in-home interview, underlining the importance of the moment.

9. Reflections on Conflicts and Accountability

• On dealing with the sometimes-unanswered questions and evasions—especially by castmate Stacy—Ashley observes:

  “We all have a responsibility to own our lives, own our stories, own our shit... And then we have this one woman who’s just capable of like– she’s like the Matrix... she will not break.” (21:03)

• The group affectionately dubs Stacy “the Matrix.”

10. Thoughts on Dr. Wendy & Other Feuds

• Asked about Dr. Wendy, Ashley is brief and diplomatic:

  “I have none. I just don’t. I don’t have any thoughts on her. I don’t have any thoughts on her situation. Shock. Yes. Very shocked.” (23:01)
  “We’re not friends right now. And that says a lot.” (23:37)

• Ashley talks about what it takes to maintain friendships on the show, noting, “You can only be friends with people who want to be friends back with you.”

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Ashley Darby on Housewife Dynamics:

  “Once you join [Housewives], it’s not like any other normal friendship group. You really are like, survival of the fittest, Game of Thrones sometimes.” (11:22, Ashley Darby)

• On Handling the Heat:

  “I care. I love her… Listen, this is my girlfriend. We’re not doing that. Like, that’s a limit that I’m not going to do…” (08:42, Ashley Darby)

• On Stacy’s Deflections:

  “Stacy’s ability to really be, like, not today now… She will not break. She’s like, ‘that’s not relevant.’” (20:27, Ashley Darby)
  “That is Stacey’s new name: The Matrix.” (21:48, Teddi Mellencamp)

• On Fans and BravoCon Comfort:

  “The season was so crazy, and I’m like, oh my God, everybody hates me. And then I got the BravoCon. I’m like, oh, no, everyone still loves me.” (05:08, Ashley Darby)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Compliment Fest & Icebreakers: 03:33 – 04:11
• BravoCon First Impressions: 05:00 – 05:10
• Shade-Throwing Chat (Giselle talk): 04:21 – 04:51
• Panel Experiences & Night Plans: 05:13 – 05:24
• Friends and Foes on Potomac Cast: 06:15 – 06:59
• Defining “Chin Check”: 07:00 – 08:00
• Ashley on the Newbies (Angel & Tia): 10:05 – 11:16, 22:05 – 22:53
• Karen’s Big Sitdown with Andy Cohen: 17:29 – 18:09
• On Stacey’s Matrix-like Deflections: 19:43 – 21:48
• Comments on Dr. Wendy: 23:01 – 23:41
• Season Tease and Episode Count: 24:14 – 24:43
• BravoCon Silliness & “Squash That Beef”: 25:03 – 25:32

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Final Thoughts

This episode delivers the signature blend of playful shade, honest reflection, and behind-the-scenes insight that fans expect from real Housewives. Ashley Darby’s candor and sense of humor shine, and Teddi & Tamra keep the conversation lively, relatable, and thoroughly Bravo. The episode’s real value lies in its ability to de-mystify cast interactions and showcase the “realness” behind the drama, leaving fans feeling like insiders in this wild world.

Best for: Anyone curious about Potomac, BravoCon, or the friendships/battles that define Housewives life.
Tone: Fun, sassy, rapid-fire, honest (with plenty of side-eye energy).

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Transcript

[Ashley Darby]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod. We are in Vegas. I am sitting here with Tamara Judge and Kiarna Stewart.

[Ashley Darby]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How's it going?

[Kiarra Stewart]

Hi, Kay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What should we call you? Kay?

[Ashley Darby]

Just call me K. I like Kay. It's more casual.

[Commercial Voice 2]

You're so pretty.

[Tamera Judge]

Pretty.

[Ashley Darby]

Thank you. Ditto.

[Commercial Voice 2]

You're stunning.

[Kiarra Stewart]

Thank you, guys.

[Tamera Judge]

Stunning.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm like. I'm like looking at her, I'm like, where?

[Kiarra Stewart]

Here we are in sweats. Please.

[Ashley Darby]

Oh, please.

[Kiarra Stewart]

You look like you have a filter on.

[Ashley Darby]

I know you're. Well, we know a lot about.

[Kiarra Stewart]

I don't know.

[Ashley Darby]

I know a little bit.

[Kiarra Stewart]

You have a real life filter on your face.

[Ashley Darby]

You have a real life filter. Yes. Yes, you. On purpose.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I couldn't even believe that.

[Ashley Darby]

Oh, my God. It was so, so. Did you see me?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Ashley Darby]

I was literally like, what is even happening?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How did you even feel in that moment? Watching that?

[Ashley Darby]

I was shocked. First of all, I didn't expect it. I know that the girls can do little mean things or whatever. We throw shade. That's just what it is.

[Commercial Voice 2]

But who do you think throws the most shade?

[Ashley Darby]

Who throws the most shade? Giselle definitely throws the most shade. It's not even a question at all. Giselle's gonna throw that shade.

[Commercial Voice 2]

She's good at it.

[Ashley Darby]

It's like confetti. And she's so good at it. She throws the shade. And sometimes I don't even think the girls are realizing how. How shady she's being. Cause she's just so good at it. She's just lighthearted. Yeah, she's so light hearted. Just made somebody smiling like, oh, my.

[Kiarra Stewart]

God, this ugly shirt I haven't seen. She's so good at it. Are you crazy? So cute.

[Ashley Darby]

Yeah, that's what it's like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Is this your first bravocon?

[Ashley Darby]

This is my first bravocon.

[Commercial Voice 2]

How's it going for you?

[Ashley Darby]

It's going great. I actually needed Bravocon because, like, the season was so crazy, and I'm like, oh, my God, everybody hates me. And then I got the Bravocon.

[Kiarra Stewart]

I'm like, oh, no, everyone still loves me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yay.

[Ashley Darby]

You know, that's what it's been like.

[Kiarra Stewart]

What have you done today?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So.

[Ashley Darby]

So today I did the panel. We did the Real Housewives of Potomac Takes Vegas panel. I did that earlier. I did, like, just some other, like, touch and goes. And then I'm here with you ladies.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Today, and you're going to the Bravos.

[Ashley Darby]

And then I'm going to the Bravos tonight.

[Commercial Voice 2]

That was fun.

[Ashley Darby]

Super excited about. Cause I hear that's, like, really the fun. It is. It is. Okay, good.

[Commercial Voice 2]

It's quite a performance.

[Ashley Darby]

Oh, really? Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yay. Who'd you sit next to on your panel?

[Ashley Darby]

I was next to Monique.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Next to Monique.

[Ashley Darby]

Yeah. So it was me and Monique together on the couch at my panel, and then in front of me. So on my side, though, it went, Giselle, Ashley, me, Monique.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Ashley Darby]

All right.

[Commercial Voice 2]

We just had Stacey on the pod.

[Ashley Darby]

Yeah.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Where do you stand with her?

[Ashley Darby]

We're stand it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was gonna say. I was like, I wonder if your reaction is gonna be similar to hers.

[Ashley Darby]

We were stand it. Stand it. Where's the stand? Wherever the stand is. We're stand it.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Kiarra Stewart]

Oh, my God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Who would you say that you're closest? I mean, other than angel, obviously. Yeah, other than angel, obviously. Who would you say you're closest with on the cast?

[Ashley Darby]

Okay. So. Wow. I actually. Despite what you guys are seeing, I actually have great relationships with 85% of the ladies.

[Commercial Voice 2]

85%.

[Ashley Darby]

85%. That's good. That's better than 80, 20. So I'm doing great. So, like, me and Tia are really close. I really adore her.

[Kiarra Stewart]

I love her.

[Ashley Darby]

I love her. She's really just a sweet. Like, she's so sweet. She's so genuine. So I just say me and her. And I actually really like Ashley.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ashley.

[Kiarra Stewart]

Me and Ashley. Ashley at all.

[Ashley Darby]

Yes. Me and Ashley have Ashley. You know what? I hate that a lot of the scenes that we had to develop where we are right now aren't really shown that much, but, like, we really have, like, had some very hard chats. We really got in the field about it, and I feel like now it's like, okay, girl, I'll see you. And, you know, it's so far, so good.

[Commercial Voice 2]

What does chin check mean?

[Ashley Darby]

Chin check means that you are going to literally Address. That is not what it is.

[Kiarra Stewart]

You're somebody in the chat. No.

[Ashley Darby]

Oh, my God. So, okay, so this is almost like. Can I say, this is. I was like, almost like a black colloquial. Because I feel like, you know, this. Like, it's like. It's like an old thing we say all time. Like, chin check. It's like I'm about to address it and I'm gonna check it. And I'm checking this. So to the point that we're not going to talk about this ever again. That's all it means. It's nothing violent. But I thought it was like, no.

[Kiarra Stewart]

I mean, somebody would check you.

[Ashley Darby]

Somebody said. I mean, maybe, like, mobster terms, people might use it, too. I feel like there's different arenas where you could use chin check. But long story short, so if the.

[Commercial Voice 2]

New Jersey girls said, I'll chin check you, that means they're gonna punch you in the jaw?

[Kiarra Stewart]

No, they might do both. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

[Ashley Darby]

I love Jersey girls.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Don't do them.

[Ashley Darby]

But I will say. I will say it just. It never. I don't think it's supposed to mean. It's just, like, something that I feel like I was told before. Like, it's like a very firm stance on. Like, let's not play about that. Like, let's. This is a thing that I want to go back and forth about.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You're putting a stop to it.

[Ashley Darby]

I'm putting a hard stop to this. Because I don't want this to ever have to go any further than this.

[Commercial Voice 2]

I gotta chin check you.

[Ashley Darby]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know about what, but, like.

[Kiarra Stewart]

And she said some crazy shit.

[Ashley Darby]

I'm gonna be like, are you kidding me? Come here. You know, I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

One time she removed herself from our group chat.

[Ashley Darby]

Cause I knew, you know what?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And that was a.

[Ashley Darby]

Let me give you a better example. So if she went in the group chat and was like, fuck you all. I don't wanna be friends with you anymore. I did that, and I'm done with you. And now I'm instantly leaving the chat. We might have to call Tamara and chin check her, because. Tamara, are you okay?

[Kiarra Stewart]

She did. She chin checked me. She chin checked me. Chin check.

[Ashley Darby]

Like, are you all right?

[Kiarra Stewart]

Are you good? She was like, a year, two years ago. I am still carrying it around. I'm still carrying it around.

[Ashley Darby]

I was seeing it.

[Kiarra Stewart]

She was like, tamara's gonna quit the pod. She hates me.

[Ashley Darby]

That you just have to be like, never Again in your life. Okay, Just. So we're good. And it's just. It's a friend thing. It's really just a friend thing. You know, it's like, I care. I love her. And I feel like I had the tunnel vision, and I'm like, listen, this is my girlfriend. We're not doing that. Like, that's a limit that I'm not going to do, because this is someone that I'm.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You're not thinking about how it ultimately did.

[Ashley Darby]

I did at the. It was so much more conversation than that. Of course, it's just a sound bite. The whole conversation was more so me being like, somebody bringing you a bone and actually me defending it. And, like, no, it wasn't like that. And so I checked the situation. It wasn't like that. You know, so we don't have to make it a thing. And it's so funny. Cause at the time, I thought I was not making it a thing by saying, no, no, no, let's not do that. Like, we chin check the situation. Let's not do that. And then it just spiraled into, like, what we're now just being like.

[Commercial Voice 2]

It's so aggressive. We're like, six episodes in about chin checking.

[Kiarra Stewart]

Yeah.

[Ashley Darby]

I'm like, all right, let's check one. Let's check something else.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Let's check somebody. Is there anything coming up that you're not looking forward to airing?

[Ashley Darby]

No, not really. To be honest, after that, I feel like after these first six episodes, whatever else got left, just let it roll. I don't think anything else is more, like, more interesting than I think how I come into the season and, like, the back and forths and the buildup, you know, the arguments, you know, me and Stacey have another big moment, and then we have another moment after that. So I just think that's more so, like, like I said, we're standard, so it's like, okay, you know.

[Commercial Voice 2]

So you love both the new girls.

[Ashley Darby]

Oh, I do. I love them both.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Do you think that Angel's cut out for this? Because I feel like her feelings have been getting hurting. Hurt so much.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We feel sorry for some of the things that they're saying to her.

[Ashley Darby]

Thank you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Are not. I mean, my feelings would be hurt, too.

[Bowen Yang]

That's what I'm saying.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Rightfully so.

[Ashley Darby]

And here's the thing. I'm also, like, equally sensitive. Like, don't get it twisted. I'm equally like. And I think when you're just so used to being so well received, it's like, you guys know, sometimes coming on Television. It's shell shocking where people are, like, just literally trying to ruffle your feathers and get a little response out of you. I think initially, when angel first came on like, she was. She's still nursing. She's still like, you know, the postpartum of it all. So I think the feelings were. Seemed a bit heavier than what we expect in Housewives, because we know it could get a lot more darker, meaner, intense than the things that we're talking about. But she's a solid woman. She can handle herself. She's a wordsmith. And I hate that people didn't get a chance to see that side of her, because it's all there.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Do we get to see that side of her?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do we get to see a lighter side?

[Ashley Darby]

Like a. Yeah, we do. I think we see some evidence after this. Like, it's not just so much she said. I think after this, you get to see a little bit more of her funny side, a little more lighthearted. I think she gets the idea of, like, let's not take this so personal after this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Right?

[Ashley Darby]

So.

[Bowen Yang]

Good.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Good. I mean, I was worried we weren't gonna see her again.

[Kiarra Stewart]

She's like, first season, peace out. Like, I hate you all. But I.

[Ashley Darby]

No, no, no, no. But, you know, and also, I get it. It's like, just think about it. That's a new feeling. It's a new feeling to be like, wait a minute. What's going on here? People don't like me. Like, you know, trying to build relationships. You know, Housewives. Once you join it, it's not like any other normal friendship group. You really are like, survival of the fittest, Game of Thrones sometimes. And it's just a new experience, you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Ashley Darby]

This season.

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[Tamera Judge]

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[Commercial Voice 2]

Is your entire cast here?

[Ashley Darby]

Yes, mine is. Well, besides Jazzy. She's not here.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Oh, she's not here.

[Ashley Darby]

But the cast is here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is Karen here?

[Ashley Darby]

Karen is here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What?

[Kiarra Stewart]

Karen's here.

[Ashley Darby]

Karen is in the mother freaking building. She is.

[Kiarra Stewart]

I haven't seen her yet.

[Ashley Darby]

Karen is here.

[Commercial Voice 2]

How's she doing?

[Ashley Darby]

She's doing good. I'm so proud of her. You guys know I love Karen.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Well, we saw her in the mid season trailer.

[Ashley Darby]

Yes. Yeah, everyone's seen her.

[Commercial Voice 2]

That was like gave me chills to have Andy knock on her front door and sit down.

[Ashley Darby]

We was watching while you were. Yes, that was our first time seeing it. So we were all like, like some people may have knew that that happened but I think to just see it and just to see like. Hi Andy. It was like Ooh, this is the man. I've ever done that before. I didn't say don't.

[Kiarra Stewart]

This is her first.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Breaking the fourth wall.

[Ashley Darby]

She's the first. Sit down. I think.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Commercial Voice 2]

He didn't even do it. And Salt Lake City, when.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, no, he wouldn't have done that.

[Commercial Voice 2]

He didn't do that. And then. Not with Teresa, no.

[Kiarra Stewart]

Wow.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You're thinking Jen Shaw?

[Commercial Voice 2]

Yeah, I thought maybe. No, somebody. Somebody else did an interview in her house.

[Ashley Darby]

No, we didn't.

[Bowen Yang]

No, no.

[Commercial Voice 2]

A pre interview before that was somebody else.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She was causing some kind of drama, I think.

[Kiarra Stewart]

Yeah.

[Commercial Voice 2]

I was at BravoCon a few years ago when I tried to get her in, and I was like, tamarack, please.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Stop trying to get gin shot.

[Kiarra Stewart]

Oh, my God. She crashed. She crashed our suite.

[Ashley Darby]

Swear.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Yes.

[Tamera Judge]

Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And brought her jeweler.

[Ashley Darby]

Oh, wow.

[Kiarra Stewart]

And took her alcohol out of our bar.

[Ashley Darby]

Oh, wow.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. And then Tam's like, come with us to the bar.

[Kiarra Stewart]

I was drunk. I'm like, come on. Hang on. I love the drama.

[Ashley Darby]

The party's over. Thank you. It's fine.

[Kiarra Stewart]

I love me a shady bitch.

[Commercial Voice 2]

I do.

[Ashley Darby]

I'm mad about it.

[Commercial Voice 1]

Me.

[Ashley Darby]

Me too. Me too. Me too. Unless it's too much shade on me. Then it's like, yeah, I don't want it anymore.

[Tamera Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you think the cast was too hard on Stacy?

[Ashley Darby]

You know what? I would say this. I could say we could have possibly broke it up. But I will say I think Stacy enjoys being the center of the drama of it all. I think Stacy comes across like. Stacy's good. She's good.

[Kiarra Stewart]

She's good.

[Ashley Darby]

And I was like, at the end of the day, you just got to give it to. Sometimes you just got to give it to her. You. Sometimes you just got to be like, you know what?

[Commercial Voice 2]

She's.

[Ashley Darby]

You're good.

[Kiarra Stewart]

Teddi called her out. Teddi called her out because she's very.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Good at not answering a question.

[Ashley Darby]

Yeah. It's just. It's not gonna happen. Like, to this day, we don't know. Like, even today at the panel, they were like, so Stacey. And she's like, that's a question for him. And it was so casual. And she was, like, literally done with it. Cause, you know, anybody else, they'd be like, okay, so, you know. And she just like, you know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then I'd be like, you're dodging the question.

[Ashley Darby]

She'd be like, yeah, no. Well.

[Kiarra Stewart]

And she changes the subject. That's a talent.

[Ashley Darby]

It is so such a talent. One thing I will say about being a part of like this Bravo universe. Like, you really realize how talented people are in different ways.

[Commercial Voice 1]

Yes.

[Ashley Darby]

And that is one of, like, Giselle's, like, smiling on your face and calling you ugly all at the same time is great. But Stacy's ability to really be, like, not today now.

[Kiarra Stewart]

Like, exactly.

[Ashley Darby]

Stacey's ability to be like, what are you talking about? Yeah, you know what the hell I'm talking about. I mean, she will not break. She's like, that's not relevant.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Why would we care?

[Commercial Voice 2]

She's like, nothing bothers me.

[Ashley Darby]

Nothing. But, I mean, listen.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Yeah, I was gonna sell something on qvc.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Everything bothers me.

[Kiarra Stewart]

So I know we're the ones.

[Ashley Darby]

Oh, my God. Everything bothers me, too. As you can see. Clearly, I'm bothered. I'm bothered and unbothered. It's kind of things like, I either really care, and then all of a sudden, I don't give a shit at all. So you just gotta catch me when I care. And then I'm like, all right, I'm done with this. Like, once other people care, I don't think I care anymore.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So why do you think she gets on everybody's nerves so much? Because she doesn't care or because people want answers?

[Ashley Darby]

I think it's a common. I think people want. Want answers. And then I think it's like, it turns into deflection. And then I think it gets frustrating because we all have a responsibility to own our lives, own our stories, own our shit. Yeah. Be honest. Take accountability. And then we have this one woman who's just capable of like. She's like, the Matrix. She's like, no. You know, it's like, what are you doing? What are you doing? Are you. Are you in it with the rest of us? You know, And I think it just, like.

[Kiarra Stewart]

It's like, a part.

[Ashley Darby]

Why do you want to be like, kudos? Cause I love to dodge it like that. But then the other part is like, oh, bitch, get in this. You know, because it gets like that, but, you know, you get it is what it is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. Yeah. I think she's gonna be around for a while.

[Ashley Darby]

Oh, yeah.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Oh, she ain't going anywhere.

[Ashley Darby]

Yeah, she's not. She's not. She's teaching a few of the rest of us how to just be like, you know, deflect. Just the Matrix. I'm telling you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Just.

[Ashley Darby]

Just literally. The Matrix that is. Stacey's new name is the Matrix.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How do you think the two newbies actually did at the end of. After you watch, after being through the entire season, do you think Both of them would want to come back.

[Ashley Darby]

Yeah, I think they would for two different reasons. You know what I mean? Like, I think it's angel just because a, there's so much more of her story that's not really getting told and so much more of her that I feel like that she could still give. And I just think that she has a lot of range that can be seen. So I think for that reason, she would want to. You know, anytime someone gets painted in, like, an awful light, if you have the ability to be like, let's get this shit straight, you're gonna take it, right? So I know her to be that woman. Tia, on the other hand, is like, if things are going great, why not? You know what I mean? Like, she actually is. She's sweet. She has a good rapport with, like, the ladies. She's. I feel like she's natural. She has great emotional intelligence. Like, she has the balance to be that sound medium in the group and build on that as she builds her relationships. And I think that's a need.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Did you meet her tonight?

[Commercial Voice 1]

Today?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I didn't get to meet her.

[Commercial Voice 2]

I met her.

[Ashley Darby]

She's so sweet. Yes, she's so sweet. She was so excited. I love her.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What are your thoughts on Dr. Wendy?

[Ashley Darby]

I have none.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

None?

[Ashley Darby]

None. I just don't. I don't have any thoughts on her. I don't have any thoughts on her situation. Shock. Yes. Very shocked.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Yeah.

[Ashley Darby]

I think the world wise, I don't think. Yeah, I think, like, you know, for most people we know, we need to be for her intelligence and, you know, the things that she brings to the family. Intelligence, things like that. But I just. I don't have any thoughts, you know, and we're not in a space where I even really want to speak on her. You know what I mean? So I have no thoughts. God bless.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Ashley Darby]

Yeah.

[Commercial Voice 2]

It's a tough one.

[Ashley Darby]

Yeah. Really? God bless. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because where do you guys stand in your friendship right now?

[Ashley Darby]

We're not friends right now. And that says a lot about your.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Character to say that.

[Ashley Darby]

It does. Yeah. I have friends. I'm used to having great friendships. I know what it takes to be friends. But I think you can only be friends with people who want to be friends back with you. And I think if you have a problem with dealing with things that you're brought with, and that's so disturbing to you that you can't get over it, and that's an enabler for you to have, move on in your friendship. That's a hard no, for me back. Cause it's like, you know, I can only be friends with somebody who wants to be friends. But if you're making it a point to make this feel like it's too hard or too difficult or that's not what you want, then I'm equally gonna meet you at that energy. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Anything you wanna tease for us?

[Ashley Darby]

No, I think the rest of this season, I mean, you guys seen the trailer?

[Commercial Voice 2]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Just.

[Ashley Darby]

It's just the ride is not over. It's far from done. Like, if you thought these first seven episodes are like, what the hell? Just stay tuned. It's a lot. In a good way. It's a lot. In a good way. It's a lot. In a good way.

[Commercial Voice 2]

How many episodes you guys have?

[Ashley Darby]

We have 17 episodes. So standard. Yeah. So we have 17 episodes and I think every last one of them is very much something. Something's happening. Something's going on. Every day is something. Yeah.

[Kiarra Stewart]

So we really appreciate you.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Yes.

[Kiarra Stewart]

We're so happy for you to be here.

[Ashley Darby]

We love you for thinking of me. And it's so fun tonight.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Cause some bravocon drama.

[Ashley Darby]

Oh, yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's the best thing to do is that.

[Ashley Darby]

You know what I was thinking that I was like, this may be the bigger moment to do it. Yeah, it's really.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We've done it before by accident.

[Ashley Darby]

It's always by accident. I love accidents.

[Kiarra Stewart]

Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Tonight when they do like squash the beef and stuff.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I think that's. Watch what happens live.

[Ashley Darby]

Oh, my God. Squash the beef is hilarious. Yeah, that would have been fun.

[Commercial Voice 2]

I do that one time. I was up there for every single person.

[Ashley Darby]

That sounds like me. Hey, you. Oh, okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then you.

[Ashley Darby]

Okay, then another one.

[Kiarra Stewart]

So Tara, just stay. Stay there in the chair. I. One year was like, Dolores came up.

[Commercial Voice 2]

And Doris goes, do we have beef?

[Kiarra Stewart]

Okay. And then Andy sat with me because I had beef with him. Oh, this is good.

[Ashley Darby]

This is good. This is good. Yeah. Listen, light them up. Okay. Well, thank you so much for having me. This is so much fun.

[Commercial Voice 2]

Yes.

[Ashley Darby]

See you ladies tonight.

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial Voice 2]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial Voice 2]

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[Bowen Yang]

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[Ashley Darby]

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