Twots Take BravoCon 2025 (Stacey Rusch)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode: Twots Take BravoCon 2025 (Stacey Rusch)
Date: November 15, 2025

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Overview

In this lively BravoCon 2025 episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge welcome special guest Stacey Rush for an unfiltered, candid discussion about all things Bravo. Broadcasting live from Las Vegas, the trio dives into the behind-the-scenes action at BravoCon, Stacey's trailblazing role in the cannabis industry, real Housewives drama, friendship dynamics, and personal growth. With signature humor and honesty, they cover the highs and lows of reality TV life, dishing out memorable anecdotes, in-depth reflections, and a few incredible one-liners.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. BravoCon Vibes & Fashion Fun

• Stacey’s First BravoCon Experience
  • Stacey shares her excitement and slight overwhelm at her first BravoCon. She praises the lively energy and reflects on her outfit of the day.
  • [04:58] Stacey Rush: "Amazing. Overwhelming. Okay. So stimulating."
• Fashion Talk
  • Stacey, in a Lapointe ensemble with feathers and beads, gives “a little illusion, a little body, a little sexiness.”
  • Tamra and Teddi joke about branding and BravoCon’s surprising attention to detail, noting branded toilet paper and luxurious sweatsuits.

2. Breaking Barriers in Cannabis

• Stacey’s Historic Achievement
  • Stacey celebrates launching her brand in Nevada after success in Virginia, proudly noting she’s the first Black woman to own a cannabis brand in Virginia.
  • [05:46] Stacey Rush: "I'm the first black woman in the state of Virginia to own her own cannabis brand. Can you believe I'm saying... Wait, what? In 2025, I am the first black woman in the state of Virginia to own her own cannabis brand."
  • Tamra relates with her own experience starting a cannabis company, confirming the potential in the industry.
  • Stacey’s mantra: “God is good.”
  • [06:08] Stacy Rush: "God is good."

3. Bravo Inside Scoop & Panel Drama

• Fangirling and BravoCelebs

  • Stacey admits to fangirling over Angela from RHOA (Real Housewives of Atlanta) and shares their adorable meeting at the event.
  • [06:48] Stacey Rush: "I met Angela from the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I met her last night. We literally jumped up and down and held each other."

• Panel Insights

  • Stacey attends and sits on a panel, mentioning the buzz around Wendy, her presence at BravoCon, and addressing Tamra being unfollowed by Wendy on social media.
  • Tamra reveals that Wendy unfollowed her after Tamra discussed “legal paperwork” about Wendy on the podcast.
  • The trio jokes about social media drama:
  • [08:01] Tamra Judge: "I didn't do anything on purpose."
  • [09:03] Tamra Judge: "So I got unfollowed because it was due. It was due. I deserved it."

• Legal Paperwork Mini-Scandal

  • Stacey is asked about legal documents and previous drama involving a cast member named TJ, but she calls it meaningless and over a year old.
  • [09:28] Stacy Rush: "It's so hard for me to revisit something that is just so meaningless. You know what I mean? Like, it's been over a year."
  • She reveals she’s back together with her ex-husband and prioritizing a measured approach with their daughter during their reconciliation.

4. Family, Relationships & Reality TV

• Navigating Divorce and Reconciliation

  • Stacey opens up about telling her daughter about divorce and being conscious about reintroducing her ex to their child, emphasizing the importance of protecting her daughter’s emotional well-being.
  • [10:23] Stacy Rush: "So we wanted to, like, be very, very sure before we even talk to her about, well, we still love each other, and we're gonna work this out. That's so heavy. She's only nine, you guys. So baby steps. Baby steps with Bella."

• Relationship Dynamics on TV

  • Tamra discusses the awkwardness of having husbands film reality TV, and Stacey agrees on respecting loved ones’ comfort level with fame.
  • [12:23] Stacy Rush: "Everyone doesn't have to necessarily want to be a part of this journey that we do."

5. Going Viral & Reflection on Past Careers

• QVC Throwback
  • Stacey’s old QVC hosting clips are trending, and she, while appreciative, laughs about the short but fun ride selling on air.
  • [13:06] Stacy Rush: "I love Andy and I love that he loves me. And I love that everyone is enjoying these clips because, honestly, that was a great time in my life. I loved working on QVC."

6. Behind-the-Scenes: Housewives Dynamics

• Shade About the Robes

  • Tamra expresses her annoyance that Stacey didn’t get a personalized robe like other “housewives,” viewing it as a slight.
  • Stacey shrugs off the gesture, showing maturity and confidence:
  • [14:27] Stacy Rush: "I just think you will only be minimized if you allow people to make you feel that way."
  • [14:37] Stacy Rush: "It doesn't affect me. I know who I am. Like, I don't need my name on a robe to remind me who I am. Are you kidding me?"
  • She credits personal growth for her resilience.

• Least Trustworthy in the Group

  • Pressed to name who she trusts least, Stacey bluntly says Ashley Darby, calling her “very duplicitous.”
  • She recounts Ashley FaceTiming her warmly off-camera, only to accuse her of faking her divorce when the cameras rolled.
  • [15:43] Stacy Rush: "Ashley is very duplicitous. Ashley will call..."
  • [16:53] Stacy Rush: "...then she calls me and FaceTimes me and says, I love you. I want to meet you. Let's start over. I walk into a boutique to meet her, and she's like, I don't believe your divorce is real."
  • She contrasts on-camera confrontations with genuine off-camera connections, labeling Ashley’s behavior "conniving and low-brow."
  • Children of both have become friends off-camera.

7. Shifting Friendships & Drama

• Friendship Trajectories
  • The midseason trailer teases drama and shifting relationships. Stacey acknowledges ups and downs with Wendy, affirming her support and love.
  • [17:49] Stacy Rush: "Wendy and I definitely had some highs and lows."
  • [18:00] Stacy Rush: "I love her and I support her. I love her and that's what friendship is like. Are you kidding me?"

8. Addressing Rumors: Chris Samuels

• Rumor Control
  • The hosts push Stacey on rumors she dated Chris Samuels (Monique Samuels’ ex). She’s adamant there’s no scandal, having met Monique only recently.
  • [23:51] Stacy Rush: "Oh, my gosh. Listen, let me tell you this. When I met Chris, I thought he was such a cool guy. Very nice, very respectful…I'll never say anything negative about him because there isn't anything negative to say."
  • Even if the rumors had any truth:
  • [24:14] Stacy Rush: "What does it matter? That was such a long time ago, and I am legally divorced as today, and he's divorced. So even if it did happen, is it so salacious? It's so stupid."
  • She reiterates: she's everyone’s storyline this season, and sometimes, that’s just Bravo.

9. Owning Her Story: Growth and Balance

• Standing Up for Herself
  • Teddi asks if Stacey feels she stood up for herself on the show. Stacey says she’s mastered balance, letting things roll off her back but “checking a bitch when I need to.”
  • [27:00] Stacy Rush: "I am always positive and I am always nice. But I'm also from Detroit and I'm not gonna let you play on my face. So I think that you will see that at the end of the season. I have achieved a balance of letting things roll off my shoulders and checking a bitch when I need to."
  • The hosts love this closing note, praising Stacey’s attitude and candor.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• [05:46] Stacy Rush: “I am the first black woman in the state of Virginia to own her own cannabis brand.”
• [06:48] Stacy Rush: “I met Angela from the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I met her last night. We literally jumped up and down and held each other.”
• [14:27] Stacy Rush: “I just think you will only be minimized if you allow people to make you feel that way.”
• [15:43] Stacy Rush & Tamra Judge:
  • "Ashley is very duplicitous. Ashley will call—"
  • Tamra: “That’s a big word for the twats.”
• [27:00] Stacy Rush: “But I'm also from Detroit and I'm not gonna let you play on my face. ...I have achieved a balance of letting things roll off my shoulders and checking a bitch when I need to.”
• [24:14] Stacy Rush: “Even if it did happen, is it so salacious? It's so stupid. ...Now that I know Monique, I really don't have anything negative to say about her.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 04:58 – Stacey describes her first BravoCon experience
• 05:46 – Discusses becoming the first Black woman to own a cannabis brand in Virginia
• 06:48 – Fangirling over Angela from RHOA
• 09:28 – Dismissing legal drama as “meaningless”; reveals reconciliation with ex-husband
• 12:23 – Discussing comfort levels of loved ones on reality TV
• 13:06 – On going viral with QVC clips and praise from Andy Cohen
• 14:27 – On not letting lack of a monogrammed robe affect her
• 15:43 – Calls Ashley Darby “duplicitous” and details off/on-screen friendship fallout
• 17:49 – Admits to highs and lows with Wendy
• 23:51 – Addresses rumors about Chris Samuels
• 27:00 – Balancing positivity with assertiveness

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Conclusion

This episode offers a vibrant, behind-the-scenes snapshot of BravoCon 2025, blending industry insight, personal growth stories, and honest Housewives commentary. With a blend of humor and straight talk, Teddi, Tamra, and Stacey pull back the curtain on reality TV’s emotional side—all while reminding listeners that strength, resilience, and a sense of humor go further than a monogrammed robe ever could.

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Recommended for: Hardcore Housewives fans, BravoCon obsessives, and anyone craving a candid take on friendships, feuds, and finding your path on and off reality TV.

Transcript

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[Stacy Rush]

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[Commercial/Promo Voice]

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[Stacy Rush]

No pressure.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

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[Podcast Host (Two Teas in a Pod)]

Two teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Stacy Rush]

Hi, guys.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself, Teddi Mellencamp.

[Tamara Judge]

And a very tired Tamara Judge. So tired. I couldn't sleep last night, guys. I was so pumped up, and I thought for sure, like, I'd be out, but I did a Red Bull last night like an idiot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, well, that's what happens when you're not around me. But either way, we've also got a very special Jerry special live from Bravo. It's a fan favorite. We've got Stacy Rush with us, and we have so many questions. We need so many details.

[Stacy Rush]

I'm so ready, Stacey.

[Tamara Judge]

Are you gonna give us an answer?

[Stacy Rush]

It is. It's all going down today. Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. So you're all dressed up. We took our outfits off after.

[Stacy Rush]

So cute. I love the neutral tones. You look so, like, comfy and cozy.

[Tamara Judge]

Are you selling us, like, qvc?

[Stacy Rush]

Am I? Yeah. Oh, my God. I need these sweatsuits. Who made those?

[Tamara Judge]

I want them very cozy.

[Stacy Rush]

Can we just get right into the branding of it all? You guys are amazing. I walk in the door, I have pillows on my feet. Yeah, I know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Have you seen your toilet pain?

[Stacy Rush]

Blake, stop. Yeah, the toilet paper has.

[Tamara Judge]

Can somebody please give us a piece of.

[Stacy Rush]

I need to see the toilet paper.

[Tamara Judge]

It's like five.

[Stacy Rush]

Respect, ladies.

[Tamara Judge]

It's like five ply.

[Stacy Rush]

It is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's not.

[Tamara Judge]

We're afraid to wipe a clock in the toilet.

[Stacy Rush]

Oh, my gosh. Cheers to you.

[Tamara Judge]

Cheers to you.

[Podcast Host (Two Teas in a Pod)]

Thank you very much.

[Tamara Judge]

This is your first Bravo con, right?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know. How does it feel there?

[Stacy Rush]

Stop it right now. If you feel like you have this in my life with Shiao, for my brand, you know that I launched here in. In Nevada yesterday.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You did?

[Stacy Rush]

So after achieving so much success in Virginia, now I am officially in Nevada. So two states.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God, that's awesome.

[Stacy Rush]

We're growing. Thank you so much.

[Tamara Judge]

I have a cannabis company as well.

[Stacy Rush]

You do?

[Tamara Judge]

I started six years ago.

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah. What is your cannabis?

[Tamara Judge]

Cannabis Vena. Cbd. Well, we started with cbd, and now we've moved over to thc and we.

[Stacy Rush]

Have gummies, and so you understand the power of. Of cannabis and how it helps so many people.

[Tamara Judge]

By the way, you're going to get really rich.

[Stacy Rush]

Am I? Oh, okay.

[Podcast Announcer]

Oh, yeah.

[Stacy Rush]

She's like, I'll take that. Cheers to that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a very good business to be in.

[Stacy Rush]

Well, you know, I made history. Why? I'm the first black woman in the state of Virginia to own her own brand. Can you believe I'm saying. Wait, what? In 2025, I am the first black woman in the state of Virginia to own her own cannabis brand. Well, congratulations.

[Tamara Judge]

Cheers to that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Making that is love.

[Tamara Judge]

That's awesome.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Congratulations.

[Stacy Rush]

God is good.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And how's your first Bravocon?

[Stacy Rush]

Amazing. Overwhelming. Okay. So stimulating.

[Tamara Judge]

Your Bravocon outfit for the day. Yeah, I love it.

[Stacy Rush]

It's a look, right?

[Tamara Judge]

It's a look.

[Stacy Rush]

This is not.

[Tamara Judge]

Can you sell it to usually wear. Sell it to us.

[Stacy Rush]

Stop it, stop it.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm obsessed with all the details.

[Stacy Rush]

Well, it is Lapointe and it's, you know, feathers and beads. A little illusion, a little body, a little sexiness. I'm giving it all to you.

[Tamara Judge]

Is there a Bravo Liberty that you may fangirl over?

[Stacy Rush]

It already happened.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, who?

[Stacy Rush]

I met Angela from the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I met her last night.

[Tamara Judge]

She presence.

[Stacy Rush]

We literally jumped up and down and held each other. It was adorable.

[Tamara Judge]

Walked past me. She was off to do something.

[Stacy Rush]

She's so sketch.

[Tamara Judge]

She's like.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

She's a. She has a presence.

[Tamara Judge]

Like you just look at her.

[Stacy Rush]

Like. Like you. I.

[Tamara Judge]

You have like a pinky.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

Yes. Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No. Who doesn't? We don't.

[Podcast Announcer]

Me.

[Stacy Rush]

No, you. You are giving me a present right now. No, not at all. Sweats and slippers.

[Tamara Judge]

We are hot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Anyone you don't want to run into?

[Stacy Rush]

Well, I've already, you know, sat in my panel today, so tell us all the people I work with. Are you kidding?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, you can tell us about it.

[Stacy Rush]

The work has been done.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm in the same boat as you.

[Sophie Cunningham]

Right.

[Stacy Rush]

I'm like, oh, so what?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Tell us any juice from the panel? Because I know it ran live, so it's. You can actually share.

[Stacy Rush]

I mean, I think that a lot of people were interested, of course, about. In seeing and hearing from Wendy. So it was wonderful that she was there.

[Tamara Judge]

So Wendy is here. I haven't seen that.

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah, she's here. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

She unfollowed me.

[Stacy Rush]

She unfollowed you?

[Tamara Judge]

She unfollowed me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did she unfollow you?

[Stacy Rush]

Well, you must have done something to get that unfollowed.

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't do Anything on purpose.

[Stacy Rush]

Okay, well, Wendy is very intentional, so you must have done something.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, I'm sure we did.

[Stacy Rush]

What did you do? What did you say?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We probably talked about her.

[Tamara Judge]

It's always my fault.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I don't know if I'm unfollowed or not.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You should check. I doubt I was ever followed.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, I'll come clean. So when it all went down and they got arrested, we did a pod, and one of her neighbors DMed me and said some stuff.

[Stacy Rush]

I saw that. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. And I said, I don't know who this neighbor is, but whatever. But she unfollowed me. I'm sorry.

[Stacy Rush]

Why are you talking to Wendy's neighbors?

[Tamara Judge]

No, her neighbors. Don't you know I'm the leaker of all storages.

[Stacy Rush]

Am I not a good friend? I'm like, let me check you. What are you.

[Tamara Judge]

No, no.

[Stacy Rush]

Listening to her neighbors.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

I don't know who she.

[Stacy Rush]

Okay, so.

[Tamara Judge]

So my social media is like, somebody in Wendy's neighborhood.

[Stacy Rush]

So how do we even know if that person.

[Tamara Judge]

We don't. That's what I said. Like, we don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Legal paperwork is real.

[Stacy Rush]

Okay, so you got unfollowed, but.

[Tamara Judge]

So I got unfollowed because it was due. It was due. I deserved it.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

Don't worry.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We also dug into you and TJ's legal paperwork.

[Stacy Rush]

Oh, did you?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah. Oh, you do it all here. Can we talk about it? Is that even. That piece of paper, Is it even something that you've seen?

[Stacy Rush]

I just. It felt even.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know you don't want to know how to comment.

[Tamara Judge]

It looked like a kindergartner made it.

[Stacy Rush]

It's just, you know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I don't know.

[Stacy Rush]

It's so. It's so hard for me to revisit something that is just so meaningless. You know what I mean? Like, it's been over a year.

[Tamara Judge]

Meaningless. You guys are not friends.

[Stacy Rush]

Like, the whole conversation of it all, you know, like, people are like, well, did you see this? Or did you hear this? You know, Ssigal. That's what you say in German. It doesn't matter. It's meaningless.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Stacy Rush]

You know, my life. I'm back with my ex husband.

[Tamara Judge]

So how's that going?

[Stacy Rush]

There's so much going on.

[Tamara Judge]

I see the ring on your finger.

[Stacy Rush]

I've been, like, thinking about that.

[Tamara Judge]

The rings back on.

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah. I love wearing it. It makes me feel good.

[Tamara Judge]

And how does your daughter feel?

[Stacy Rush]

Oh, she's so happy.

[Tamara Judge]

Is she now? Are you guys Living together.

[Stacy Rush]

Now, you'll have to see.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

When you watch Girlfriend, I have a feeling, yes.

[Tamara Judge]

You think so?

[Stacy Rush]

Now, why do you say that? Do I look like I'm living with someone?

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

You're glowing.

[Stacy Rush]

You're glowing. You're glowing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So now that your daughter's in the mix of knowing that you guys are back together. Cause for a while, you said you were waiting to tell her, right?

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah. I mean, I think that our job as mothers is we have to protect our children, right? So I just told her that we're getting a divorce. And, like, Teemo and I cried when we told her that. We were so, so disappointed in ourselves and having to tell our daughter that. So we got over that horrible conversation and, you know, the sort of restructuring of the family when you go through a divorce. So we wanted to, like, be very, very sure before we even talk to her about, well, we still love each other, and we're gonna work this out. That's so heavy. She's only nine, you guys. So baby steps. Baby steps with Bella.

[Tamara Judge]

Are you calling him your husband?

[Stacy Rush]

You know, considering he's the only man that I've ever married. I mean, and the father of your daughter and I only have one child, so no matter where we end up in this crazy world, in this life, he is my one husband. He is the one father of my daughter.

[Tamara Judge]

I have to ask you, does he like to film, or is it uncomfortable? No, he's like my husband.

[Stacy Rush]

Stop.

[Tamara Judge]

He's like, now, do you know what.

[Stacy Rush]

I have to do?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, Yeah, I know what to do. Reverse cowgirl. Reverse cowgirl. Or is it.

[Stacy Rush]

I'm gonna have a sip of the champagne in this lovely tumble.

[Tamara Judge]

So that's the whole thing. So when. When he first filmed, I go, oh, this is Eddie. He's like, do I really have to do this?

[Sophie Cunningham]

You know?

[Tamara Judge]

He's like.

[Stacy Rush]

He does.

[Tamara Judge]

He does the bare. But he kind of did the bare minimum.

[Stacy Rush]

I mean, listen, I. I recognize it. Want a man who turns up and.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Doesn'T want to be thirsty because he.

[Stacy Rush]

Doesn'T necessarily want to do. Comfortable doing, but he does it because he loves.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's my husband.

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah, I'm good enough with that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Do we see more?

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah. Everyone doesn't have to have. Everyone doesn't have to necessarily want this. And I'm, you know.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I appreciate that.

[Stacy Rush]

I'm learning this through family, through friends. Everyone doesn't necessarily have to want to be a part of this journey that we do. That is.

[Tamara Judge]

There's nothing worse than a husband that is thirsty.

[Stacy Rush]

That oh, yeah. That is the worst. Family and friends, including my husband, my mother, who, you know, want to support me, but not necessarily so much and be a part of my story. Yeah, I respect that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah. Their love means much more.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You're going viral, did you know that? With your old QVC videos?

[Sophie Cunningham]

I know.

[Stacy Rush]

Is that.

[Tamara Judge]

And how about Andy saying how much he loves them and loves you?

[Stacy Rush]

I love Andy and I love that he loves me. And I love that everyone is enjoying these clips because, honestly, that was a great time in my life. I loved working on qvc.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

How long did.

[Tamara Judge]

Were you on qvc?

[Stacy Rush]

It was under a couple years. Yeah. It was a very brief time.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

Would you go back?

[Stacy Rush]

It was so much fun.

[Tamara Judge]

Is it still around QVC's years? Well, no, but HS. Some of them had still stopped because Heather Dubrow.

[Stacy Rush]

No. Well, HSN and qvc, I believe, have joined together.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, is that what happened?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you know Jamie Kern Lima?

[Stacy Rush]

I don't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She started IT Cosmetics, but she, like, got her, like, big sale.

[Tamara Judge]

I love IT Cosmetics.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know.

[Stacy Rush]

I do too.

[Tamara Judge]

I did sponsored posts for them.

[Stacy Rush]

I have. I use and wear so many products that I found selling on QVC to this day.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. She's amazing.

[Tamara Judge]

Can I tell you something? I'm really mad about what? That you didn't have your name on anything on the trip. That really pissed me off.

[Stacy Rush]

Why did that piss you off?

[Tamara Judge]

Because I just. I felt like they were trying to make you less than. Like, everybody has their name on their robe. Everybody had their name on their towel. Everybody. Everything was monogrammed, even their little.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think it was meant to hurt your feelings.

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And I thought that was so mean.

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah. But you know, I don't really value an embroidery, you know? And a name.

[Tamara Judge]

Does it matter?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Does anything bother you or, like, is everything like water off a duck's back?

[Stacy Rush]

I just, I. I just think you will only be minimized if you allow people to make you feel that way. Oh, my God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I love that.

[Stacy Rush]

No matter what they do.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

Yes.

[Stacy Rush]

It doesn't affect me. I know who I am. Like, I don't need my name on a robe to remind me who I am. Are you kidding me?

[Tamara Judge]

Have you always been like this?

[Stacy Rush]

No, of course not.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

No.

[Stacy Rush]

No.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

You're strong.

[Stacy Rush]

This is growth.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Stacy Rush]

This is. Grown women talk. You know what I mean?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Stacy Rush]

When you grow and you mature and you get to a place, you're like, girl, that's all you got.

[Tamara Judge]

She was trying to get to you.

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah. Try harder.

[Tamara Judge]

Really try harder.

[Stacy Rush]

I didn't Even want that robe. It wasn't even cute. It was a horrible color.

[Tamara Judge]

It was a horrible color.

[Stacy Rush]

Not very soft.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, yeah, because it was waffle.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, Waffle's horrible waffle.

[Stacy Rush]

Giselle, who knows nothing about fashion or.

[Tamara Judge]

Quality, who in the group do you feel like you can trust the least?

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah, you know, I know, but I.

[Tamara Judge]

Just want to hear you say.

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You have to say the little imp.

[Stacy Rush]

Ashley. Darby.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, what?

[Stacy Rush]

I. Who were you gonna say?

[Tamara Judge]

Giselle.

[Stacy Rush]

Oh, no, Ashley.

[Tamara Judge]

Really?

[Stacy Rush]

Ashley is very duplicitous. Ashley will call.

[Tamara Judge]

That's a big word for the twats.

[Stacy Rush]

Duplicitous.

[Tamara Judge]

I know what that means.

[Stacy Rush]

You do?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Acting.

[Stacy Rush]

Turn of events.

[Tamara Judge]

I just saw Teddy go.

[Stacy Rush]

Well, it's like, you know, Ashley will call you and say, for example, at the start of the season when she and I met and we were shopping and I walked out because she was questioning me about my divorce. What you didn't get a chance to see is 24 hours before that, Ashley FaceTimes me, and she's like, stacy, I feel like we have had our highs and lows. I really love you. I think you're a great person. I just want to meet you again. Let's just talk and hang out. You know, we had so much fun with the kids. She and I had actually met with her boys and Arabella. We spent, like, all day at a jungle gym, you know? And then she calls me and FaceTimes me and says, I love you. I want to meet you. Let's start over. I walk into a boutique to meet her, and she's like, I don't believe your divorce is real.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And you're like, do you think it's phony?

[Stacy Rush]

I've spent.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. She does things for the family.

[Stacy Rush]

It's like the cameras come up and she turns into the devil. Oh, oh, oh. Why wouldn't we have that conversation if she was really, truly a friend? Like, let's keep it real.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Stacy Rush]

We were hanging out with our kids. You FaceTimed me talking about how you love me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

When you hung out with the kids, were you on camera?

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

No, off camera.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Off camera.

[Tamara Judge]

Hang.

[Stacy Rush]

Our children love each other.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

Oh, my God. That's.

[Stacy Rush]

We hung out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's even worse.

[Stacy Rush]

So if you were. If you guys hung out together and you had questions about each other, wouldn't you be like, so, girl, are you really divorced? Like, what's going on? Yeah, it was just very duplicitous. It was very conniving and low brow, if you will, for me. And it just. It set the precedent of who she became this season. Does it get worse of being a friend of mine?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well we just saw the mid season trailer and it looks really dramatic.

[Stacy Rush]

Dun dun dun right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So do any friendships shift that we're currently seeing?

[Stacy Rush]

Absolutely. You saw it, didn't you? Yes, I know you saw it. I know. Wendy and I definitely had some highs and lows. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Where are you with Wendy now?

[Stacy Rush]

I love her and I support her. I love her and that's what friendship is like. Are you kidding me?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Here's the thing about being a great gift giver. When you find something truly perfect for everyone on your list, you almost don't want to give it away.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

That's what happened with my quints. Order everything so soft and well made. I'm seriously tempted to keep all of it for myself.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial/Promo Voice]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial/Promo Voice]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial/Promo Voice]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial/Promo Voice]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial/Promo Voice]

Specifically all of the shows from the One Chicago Universe.

[Tamara Judge]

If you're a fan of one of.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Commercial/Promo Voice]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Can we talk a little bit about Chris Samuels?

[Stacy Rush]

Yeah, let's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And we can't beat around the bush with the answer. We just need who has a bush nowadays?

[Stacy Rush]

You.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, sorry.

[Stacy Rush]

Please Tell me you are way too beautiful for a bush. You do not have a bush. Oh, my gosh. God. Do you have a bush? Oh, no, no, no, no.

[Tamara Judge]

We went to the bathroom and I go, I haven't shaved in a few days.

[Stacy Rush]

Oh, was it a bush?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, it wasn't a full bush.

[Tamara Judge]

It was just stabilizing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was starting to peek out.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, it was like you had bravicant two years ago now.

[Stacy Rush]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Sometimes you just can't do the most.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we have been supporting you with this whole Chris Samuels thing because you don't. You don't even know Monique.

[Commercial/Promo Voice]

You've never.

[Stacy Rush]

Like, there's. I didn't meet her until. Well, I'll meet her on this episode that's airing on Sunday. So I don't know Monique.

[Tamara Judge]

But even if you did date him.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did you slide into his DMs? Did you want to date with him?

[Stacy Rush]

Oh, my gosh. Listen, let me tell you this. When I met Chris, I thought he was such a cool guy. Very nice, very respectful. Not like smarmy and weird. And that's what it is. I'll never say anything negative about him because there isn't anything negative to say.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You're very dodging the answers.

[Stacy Rush]

Well, I just want to say, quite frankly, if you were to believe the most salacious rumor that, like, oh, my God, I dated him or whatever, what does it matter? That was such a long time ago, and I am legally divorced as today, and he's divorced. So even if it did happen, is it so salacious? It's so stupid. I literally started the season months ago in April, talking about dating my ex husband and getting back together with my ex husband. I wasn't talking about Chris, so what does it matter? But the truth is, he is a friend of mine to this day. I will never say anything negative about him. I didn't know Monique. Now that I know Monique, I really don't have anything negative to say about her.

[Tamara Judge]

Is she nice to be?

[Stacy Rush]

She's a cool girl. She's good. She seems level headed. She seems like she has been through something and come out on the other side. And I have a lot of respect for that. So it is what it is. And if people want to make it bigger than that, that's on them.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think they're trying to make it bigger just for, like a storyline?

[Stacy Rush]

I mean, I'm literally everyone's storyline this season. I know how it feels.

[Tamara Judge]

I know how it feels.

[Stacy Rush]

I don't even want to be like, I'm like, and let's have fun and let's be friends. And they're like, we hate you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you think watching back you stood and then I know we need to rap. I know, guys.

[Stacy Rush]

The boss man is.

[Podcast Host (Two Teas in a Pod)]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you think you stood up for yourself enough this season?

[Stacy Rush]

I think that, like, everything in my life, I have somehow achieved a really great balance. I think at the beginning of the season and what you've seen so far, I've allowed a lot of things to sort of roll off my shoulders. I'm very confident in who I am and I am so loved. Like, I am at home with my man. I got my daughter. I got a brand. I'm not, like, thinking about these and the fans love.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I gotta say, I. I stood close to Stacy and I didn't smell any stinky breath.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, Stacy. Can you breathe on us?

[Stacy Rush]

Do you want me to breathe on? Can I come and kiss you like I am?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Stacy Rush]

Like, stop, you guys. Are you breathing at me? You're like, like, stop. It's so sad. How sad is that?

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't like when Andy mentioned it on whatcha happens live.

[Stacy Rush]

I think, you know I can take a joke, but I don't. I can take a joke. You can, but my point is we can. I've achieved a balance at the first. You will. As you have seen, I've allowed things to roll off my shoulders. Right. Let it slide off your back. It doesn't matter.

[Tamara Judge]

However, do you get revved up at all this season?

[Stacy Rush]

You can only take so much.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Stacy Rush]

And I am always positive and I am always nice. But I'm also from Detroit and I'm not gonna let you play on my face. Oh. So it's so I think that you will see that at the end of the season. I have achieved a balance of letting things roll off my shoulders and checking a bitch when I need to.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, well, we'll end on that.

[Stacy Rush]

I can't believe I said the B word. Oh, my gosh. It's too much champagne.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's so good. Oh, my God.

[Tamara Judge]

Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, Stacy.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We appreciate it. Guys, keep tuning in because we'll keep bringing on more content for you guys. Live from BravoCon in Las Vegas.

[Stacy Rush]

Sam.

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[Stacy Rush]

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