Twots Takes BravoCon 2025 (Part One- Margaret Josephs)

Summary

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Two Ts In A Pod: Twots Takes BravoCon 2025 (Part One – Margaret Josephs)

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge
Date: November 14, 2025
Guest: Margaret Josephs (with Alexis Bellino)
Episode Focus: Behind-the-scenes BravoCon stories, Real Housewives dynamics, and Margaret’s personal updates

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into BravoCon 2025 and brings listeners candid reality TV gossip, Housewife relationship deep-dives, and some personal updates—mainly through a lively and unfiltered conversation between Teddi, Tamra, Alexis Bellino, and special guest Margaret Josephs. The tone is honest, occasionally raw, and frequently hilarious, recapping not just Bravo drama but also their lives behind the camera.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Margaret’s Latest Life Update

• [04:07] Margaret happily reveals her oldest stepson (from her first marriage) just had his first baby at age 50.
  • Margaret: “My oldest stepson just had a baby at age 50 from my first match. His first baby. Is that not crazy?”
• Margaret also mentions working on her mocktail line, Soiree, and is energized by the BravoCon pause and reset.

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2. The "Pause" in Bravo Shows – Reactions

• [04:45] Margaret embraces the break in filming, saying it was needed by all.
  • Margaret: “I'm not gonna lie. I enjoyed my time off for a little while. I think we all needed a little breather, a little break.”
• The hosts probe about possible reconciliation within the cast, specifically the Gorga-Giudice family drama.

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3. Gorga-Giudice Family Drama — Private vs. Public

• [05:00] Discussion delves into whether Melissa and Teresa have reconciled. Margaret urges that family issues “shouldn't play out in the public eye.”
  • Margaret: “I think we've all seen it. You know, something like this has to be done in a therapist's office, not played out in the press.”
• Alexis expresses hope for family healing, emphasizing family above the reality show element.

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4. The Controversial Louie Video

• [06:17] Teddi describes a distressing video of Louie (Teresa’s husband) reportedly yelling at an ex-wife, sparking debate about accountability and the potential impact of AI and public blame-shifting.
  • Margaret: “They are claiming it's AI, but this... was done way before AI. I think a lot of people have discredited that. And the whole point is, it was done and those things were said.” ([07:05])
• The group discusses whether people can truly change or if past behavior is always indicative of the future.
  • Margaret: “I think past behavior is indicative of future behavior. A lot of times with things like that.” ([07:30])

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5. Reality TV & Accountability

• [08:36] Margaret and Teddi open up about times they've made mistakes, drawing a line between honest self-reflection and denial.
  • Margaret: “I've done a lot of shitty things.”
  • Teddi: “I've made multiple mistakes.”
  • The group agrees that growth comes from taking responsibility, not deflection.

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6. Social Scene Updates: Friend Circles & Relationships

• [14:12] Teddi asks Margaret who she’s been hanging with lately. Margaret mentions Dolores’ engagement and iconic engagement ring:
  • Margaret (about Dolores’ ring): “...her little baby hands with this huge ring. I’m going to have to be your ring assistant and help hold your hands up.”
• Margaret shares she keeps in frequent contact with Dolores and Melissa, but not Teresa:
  • Margaret: “We don't have a relationship. It used to be contentious... I have no ill will towards her. Truthfully, I kind of feel sad for her in this situation.” ([15:23])

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7. When Cast Drama Goes Public (Shannon Beador & Alexis Bellino Elevator Moment)

• [16:44] Teddi puts Alexis on the spot to recount her run-in with Shannon Beador at BravoCon:
  • Alexis (on avoiding Shannon in the elevator): “I just don't want the strife... After that, I looked at my friends and said, I shouldn't have done that. Why did I feel I had to?” ([17:55])
• Margaret says she would have just gotten in the elevator and said, “Hey,” keeping things grown-up and civil.
  • Margaret: “If you're a grown lady, you just say hi and move on.” ([19:10])

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8. Reflections on Reality TV Relationships

• [16:05] Alexis laments the isolation reality TV fallout can cause, wishing things could be more cordial:
  • Alexis: “I don't want the feeling of when I'm walking by my cast that I feel like they're just gonna shun me or not say hi... nobody gets it unless you've been in it.”
• The group agrees it is possible to respect each other’s space without animosity, even if past wounds exist.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Margaret Josephs (on the Gorgas and Giudices):
  “I just hope it's genuine for the sake of Melissa and Joe.” ([05:13])
• Teddi Mellencamp (on viral videos and accountability):
  “I do think that if you’re willing to put yourself out there on camera and be so aggressive...that’s really intense.” ([08:04])
• Alexis Bellino (on cast relations):
  “We're not brain surgeons. We’re not at that level. But it’s a hard career, nobody gets it unless you've been in it.” ([16:28])
• Margaret Josephs (on moving past drama):
  “I kind of feel sad for her in this situation. I want everything to be good for her. She's been through the wringer.” ([15:23])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:14] Intro & guest welcome
• [04:07] Margaret’s family update (stepson’s new baby)
• [04:45] The BravoCon pause – initial reactions
• [05:00] Gorga-Giudice family drama
• [06:17] The Louie controversy — viral video discussion
• [07:30] Can people change? Arguments for and against
• [14:12] Margaret’s friend circle and Dolores’ engagement ring
• [15:38] Lack of relationship with Teresa—“our ship has sailed”
• [16:44] Alexis & Shannon: BravoCon elevator avoidance, cast fallout
• [19:03] How to stay civil after reality TV drama

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Episode Tone & Style

Conversational and direct, the hosts and guests don’t shy away from controversy. Margaret is open, humorous, and sometimes self-deprecating, while Alexis brings moments of vulnerability. Teddi keeps the chat on track and isn’t afraid to push for the real story. The tone is equal parts gossipy and therapeutic—reflecting why fans turn to this podcast for insight straight from OG Housewives.

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This summary captures the heart of the episode for listeners who want the gossip and the heart behind the Bravo headlines—without any of the filler.

Transcript

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Margaret Josephs]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Margaret Josephs]

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[Alexis Bellino]

Two T's in a pod with Teddy.

[Margaret Josephs]

Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of Two T's in a Pod With Myself, Teddy Mellencamp. And I've also got Margaret Joseph, Joseph and Alexis Bellino with me. I am so happy. What is going on?

[Margaret Josephs]

Oh, my God. First, I'm so happy to be here, and you look absolutely fabulous. I'm just thrilled to be here with Alexis. Congratulations on the marriage.

[Tamara Judge]

Thank you.

[Margaret Josephs]

You're welcome. Yeah.

[Alexis Bellino]

Teddi looks amazing. It has been a rock star.

[Margaret Josephs]

My cat's in my sweats.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Everybody else is, like, ready to go out, and I've switched into Vicki Gunvalson sweats.

[Margaret Josephs]

That's okay.

[Alexis Bellino]

You know what?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

If she would have given Soulmate and Sister, if she would have given me.

[Alexis Bellino]

One, I'd be in it, too. But she only likes you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yours is in the mail.

[Margaret Josephs]

That's right. But I like that sweatsuit. She should be singing those for Soulmate Sister.

[Tamara Judge]

That's so cute.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know.

[Margaret Josephs]

Isn't it cute? Yeah, I like it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It feels so cozy, and I needed it.

[Margaret Josephs]

I love it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What is new with you? What's going on?

[Margaret Josephs]

What is going on? Well, my oldest stepson just had a baby at age 50 from my first match. His first baby. Is that not crazy?

[Alexis Bellino]

That's amazing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

First baby. Boy or girl?

[Margaret Josephs]

Little boy. Little baby. Jack.

[Alexis Bellino]

Hey, 50 is the old 30 or 30 50s? The new 30 was.

[Margaret Josephs]

That's good. I mean, you know, my first stepson's only eight years younger than I am, but, yeah, so that's very exciting in our family. And then, you know, my mocktail line soiree, trying to, you know, shake it up for that, which is great. And then, you know, just. And we've been on hold for a little while, but I'm thrilled to be here. Bravocon.

[Alexis Bellino]

That's what I want to know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We have to talk a little bit about the pause hold.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What are your thoughts on that?

[Margaret Josephs]

Listen, I'm not gonna lie. I enjoyed my time off for a little while. I think we all needed a little breather, a little break. We'll see, you know, we'll see what happens. We'll see, you know, we'll see what happens. I'm still always with Melissa. I love. Obviously, I love.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Did Melissa and Teresa, like, did they have this meeting that we supposedly saw in the world?

[Alexis Bellino]

Good question.

[Margaret Josephs]

You know, it's funny. I think Teresa and Joe, you know, did speak. I think, you know, the family. Listen, I'm always about a family reconciling. I just hope it's genuine for the sake of Melissa and Joe.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I hope that I never have to see another video like I just saw of Louis.

[Alexis Bellino]

Wait, what? Fill me in.

[Margaret Josephs]

What?

[Alexis Bellino]

Okay, first of all, I want to. I want to back up Margaret on this. I hope that. I hope that for the sake, or maybe it was you that said it just now, that of Joe and Teresa. I want this family to reunite because family is everything. I want them to put it all. TV's a whole nother.

[Margaret Josephs]

You know what it is? I think it shouldn't play out in the public eye. And I just think it's. It's just. That's what it is. I think we've all been down this road with them before, and hopefully this will be the last time this ever happens. I think we've all seen it. You know, something like this has to be done in a therapist's office, not played out in the press. And I don't like that it's playing out in the press. And I think that they should. It shouldn't. But for the sake of everybody, I just hope.

[Alexis Bellino]

I agree. Now, what's the video? Because you just had a high reaction. Teddi, what's the video? I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The video is a video of him videoing himself, but yelling at. I believe it's to be his ex wife. So he's videoing himself, but he's like, you know, if it were me, I allegedly. Something along the lines of, like, I would do this to you. And it's like, very aggressive.

[Margaret Josephs]

Did you see this march? I think a lot of people see it. It was all over the Internet. Yes, it's a lot of people.

[Alexis Bellino]

And I feel like I'm. I'm. I'm in the twilight zone because I'm like, okay, what is. What is it? I mean, I have to go see it now. So. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

[Margaret Josephs]

You know what it is? It was very upsetting. They are claiming it's AI, but this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Video was done, I thought was like face app that, like, only makes us hotter.

[Margaret Josephs]

But also, this was done way before AI. I think a lot of people have discredited that. And the whole point is, is just like, I think we should stop blaming everybody. Well, this one put it out or this one's against me. The whole point is it was done and those things were said.

[Alexis Bellino]

Exactly.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, that is.

[Margaret Josephs]

And I think that's. What's. That's upsetting. And if that. And I, I just, It's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you believe people change?

[Margaret Josephs]

I think past behavior is indicative of future behavior. A lot of times with things like that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Me too. I hate to say it.

[Margaret Josephs]

I don't like to say that. Listen, I think people do make a mistake, but this isn't the first video we've seen. Yeah.

[Alexis Bellino]

So neither of you feel that someone can make a mistake and go, I'm not doing that again. That was. I'm horrified by my.

[Margaret Josephs]

No, I think that's not what I'm saying. People can do that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I've made multiple mistakes.

[Margaret Josephs]

I've made tons of mistakes that I.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Can say, you know what?

[Alexis Bellino]

I made a mistake.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm not gonna do that again. But I do think that if you're willing to put yourself out there on camera and be so aggressive and take a video of yourself and feel that it's need to be sent out to other people.

[Alexis Bellino]

Are you sure that he didn't send that and someone else did? Is it on his account?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Margaret Josephs]

No, no, no. It's not that. It's. He videotaped himself saying very not nice things to someone.

[Alexis Bellino]

I'm saying, did somebody else video it? And it doesn't matter either way. It's bad either way.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's not like a fan account got him randomly. Like it was like when he was getting his bag at the airport.

[Margaret Josephs]

No, no, no, that's not what happened. That's not what happened. No, it was. It was. He did it. He did a personalized video to someone, kind of like a cameo.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Alexis Bellino]

Wow. Okay. That is. I got.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And it was terrible.

[Margaret Josephs]

No, that's what's upsetting. And you know what? Yes. Do I think people. Bad things happen. They could change everything else. The only problem is I've been on the receiving end of some of it and I've done.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I've been.

[Margaret Josephs]

Listen, I've done a lot of shitty things.

[Alexis Bellino]

At the other end also. Of course.

[Margaret Josephs]

No, you know, you haven't. But.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, we both have. I mean, we both have.

[Margaret Josephs]

And listen. And you know what? It happens in life.

[Alexis Bellino]

It happens in life. And that's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But it's like you're self awareness.

[Margaret Josephs]

We take responsibility for it and that's the difference.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Margaret Josephs]

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[Commercial Announcer]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

So who have you been hanging out with the most during this time and have you seen Dolores ring?

[Margaret Josephs]

Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Honestly, it's like this size.

[Alexis Bellino]

It's an ice skate rink.

[Margaret Josephs]

I said first of all, she has like little baby hands. I was laughing because she, you know, she plumped them up. So I said, you have those little baby hands with this huge ring. I'm going to have to be your ring assistant and to help hold your hands up. I haven't seen it in real life but she texted me right away, sent me pictures. I was so I'm so thrilled for them. We got to see it today. Yes, we got to see it today. Teddy. So big ring. I know, but I was cracking up. I was like Dolores, those little baby hands. How you gonna hold that ring up?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, she can't. Well, probably can't. Her finger.

[Alexis Bellino]

Her left bicep's bigger than her right bicep.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I'm ready to go.

[Margaret Josephs]

I'm very, very happy. I'm so happy for them, thrilled for them. And I get to see Dolores. I talk to her all the time. Melissa and Joe, I get to see even, you know, Rachel Fooda. I get to be, you know, see her. Little Jen Bessler, you know, so.

[Alexis Bellino]

Okay, then I have a question. That's a hard question. So you don't. You don't talk to Joe and Melissa?

[Margaret Josephs]

No, I just. I see Joe and Melissa.

[Alexis Bellino]

Okay, so then Theresa. You don't talk. Theresa much?

[Margaret Josephs]

No, I don't. We don't have a relationship.

[Alexis Bellino]

Is it. Is it tentious, like contentious, or is it just if you see her, you'll say hi or walk by?

[Margaret Josephs]

You know, it used to be contentious. I have no ill will towards her. Truthfully, I kind of feel sad for her in this situation. I want everything to be good for her. She's been through the wringer. It's just. I think our ship has kind of sailed.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Margaret Josephs]

It's just because a lot has happened between the two of us, and it's. And it's not really. It wasn't really about us. It was really. Listen, she was. It was about her relationship with her husband. I was always very protective of her. I think rightfully so, with things of that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I think when you see somebody going through something that like.

[Margaret Josephs]

And I think I was on it.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Margaret Josephs]

No, and I think, you know, just a lot of things have happened that.

[Alexis Bellino]

There'S so much water under the bridge, and that's okay. I feel like if. As long as you don't feel like. Here's what I struggle with, with my cast. Of all the seasons I've been on the show, I don't want to feel like if I'm out in public. Look, we don't have to be best friends, but we were on a reality show together, and that's the hardest career, one of the hardest careers you can do in a different way. We're not a brain surgeon. I always say. I make fun of that. Cause I'm like, we're not brain surgeons. We are not at that level. But it's a hard career. Nobody gets it unless you've been in it. But I don't want the feeling of when I'm walking by my cast that I feel like they're just gonna shun me or not say hi. I wanna just be like, hi. Okay, bye.

[Margaret Josephs]

Okay. Okay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Let's ask Margaret then, about what happened today. Okay. So she saw Shannon Beador to win.

[Alexis Bellino]

We don't need to go there. Why are we meeting a dead horse?

[Margaret Josephs]

You could ask me. I feel like I'm very therapeutic. I feel like.

[Alexis Bellino]

I feel like I've been a lot of. In a lot of therapy shows.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So do you know the backstory?

[Margaret Josephs]

Yes, I know the whole story.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Alexis Bellino]

I watch the show.

[Margaret Josephs]

I know everything.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Margaret Josephs]

I know it all.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay? She's to the elevator, and she sees Shannon, and she decides to wait till the next elevator.

[Alexis Bellino]

Well, first of all, when Shannon walked out of the room, I was walking with my concierge person taking me to my room, as we all did. And she walks out and she's like. And as this, like, look. And then. And I'm like, okay, we. Okay. I don't even know what to do now. Like, it's just like, let's just go. And then she's ahead of me, and she's getting on the elevator, and I think, okay, an elevator's gonna swoop her up, and then I'm gonna be able to get on. And then the elevator doesn't come forever. So I'm holding back with Spencer and my concierge, and I'm like, okay, let's just hang back. I just don't want it. I don't want the strife. And then the elevator opens and she goes. And then the next elevator comes, and we jumped on that one. And I just thought after that, I looked at my. At my friends around and I said, I shouldn't have done that. Why did I feel that I had to?

[Tamara Judge]

It was.

[Alexis Bellino]

I. I wanted to give everyone space. But I also. It's at the same time, it's like, I'm not at fault here. No, listen, I'm not at fault here.

[Margaret Josephs]

No, I. I totally get it. You should be able to be in the same space as her and I get it together. And it ended on a bad note.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I under.

[Margaret Josephs]

I.

[Alexis Bellino]

You know, you can get both sides. I know you can see both sides.

[Margaret Josephs]

Listen. I could. Listen, it was a heartbreak to her. Whatever it is, no one wants to see, you know, their guy moving on with some hot girl. You know what I mean?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's a good point.

[Alexis Bellino]

Married. Married.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No.

[Margaret Josephs]

Exactly. No. Married to some hot girl.

[Alexis Bellino]

No.

[Margaret Josephs]

But in the beginning. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Alexis Bellino]

But now it's been years. It's been years now.

[Margaret Josephs]

And work with them. No, of course Absolutely.

[Alexis Bellino]

But now it should be, what would you have done? I want to ask Margaret this. What would you have done?

[Margaret Josephs]

No, I would have probably got in the elevator.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You. That's what I said too.

[Margaret Josephs]

I would have gotten the elevator. You know, I would have said, hey. Yeah, I would have said, Tamara said.

[Alexis Bellino]

Tamara said she would have hung back. Because I've asked a lot of people this. Tamara said she would have hung back. And. But the funny thing is, is that I did hold back. But then once it came and went and we got up to my room, I go, why did I do that? I was like, this is ridiculous. I'm not skirting around the rest of my life.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I probably would have gotten the elevator and been like, this is awkward.

[Margaret Josephs]

Me too. That's our langu have just said hi. I would be like you. I'd be like, hey.

[Alexis Bellino]

To be honest, I would have just said hi and then been on. On my day. Like, we're grown. If, if you're a grown lady, you just say hi and move on.

[Margaret Josephs]

Yeah. And I think there's going to be a lot of you guys live in.

[Alexis Bellino]

The same place and we also are.

[Margaret Josephs]

On the same restaurant.

[Alexis Bellino]

We're both on a, like in this world.

[Margaret Josephs]

Bravo verse.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Same restaurants with a quiet woman.

[Margaret Josephs]

Yes, exactly. I met my husband. You're going to be at the Bronco first together. You know, you're gonna have to do it. You know what I'm saying?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Margaret Josephs]

Okay.

[Alexis Bellino]

I just love getting your take on.

[Margaret Josephs]

Foreign.

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