Twots Takes BravoCon 2025 (Part Two- Margaret Josephs)

Summary

---

Two Ts In A Pod: Twots Take BravoCon 2025 (Part Two – Margaret Josephs)

Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp & Tamra Judge
Date: November 14, 2025

Episode Overview

In this lively episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge deliver their signature unfiltered takes on BravoCon 2025, giving listeners a behind-the-scenes look at the Bravo universe, housewives drama, and personal moments from the event. Special attention is given to Margaret Josephs, but much of the episode delves into candid conversations about Bravo celebrities, party culture, mental health, and empathy among Real Housewives stars.

The episode is a blend of humor, vulnerability, and classic Housewives banter—perfect for Bravo fans and anyone intrigued by the interpersonal drama that defines the Bravo world.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Facing the BravoCon Weekend: Drama, Reunion, and Nerves

[03:33 – 04:55]

• Teddi is relaxed about seeing any Bravo stars, declaring, “I could be in a room with anybody. Even the people that hate my guts.” (Teddi, 03:40)
• Tamra names Heather Gay as someone who might dislike Teddi:
  • “I know how the gay hates my guts.” (Teddi, 03:50)
• The group speculates about rumors involving Heather Gay and Captain Jason:
  • “Maybe she didn’t totally have sex. Maybe she gave him a blowjob.” (Teddi, 04:03)
  • They debate what “counts” as sex, in a cheeky discussion about boundaries, intention, and definitions.

Memorable Exchange:
Tamra: “I consider… you know, fellatio… I think doing anything with somebody’s lower extremities… is pretty much… yeah, you’re a done deal.” [04:57]

---

Counting Numbers, Hookup Honesty, and Relationship Realness

[05:18 – 06:28]

• Teddi and Tamra candidly (and humorously) discuss their “numbers,” what constitutes sexual experience, and how definitions shift over time.
• Tamra: “At that point, I’m like, we’re doing it.” [06:04]
• Interviewer jokes about being “almost Mormon,” underscoring generational and cultural differences in perspectives on sex and relationships.

---

Teddi’s Business Venture: Soiree Mocktail Line

[06:30 – 07:43]

• Teddi highlights her new non-alcoholic beverage line, Soiree. Caesars now features Soiree in their bars.
• She details the flavors:
  • Cucumber, mint, lychee, elderflower
  • Margarita: passion fruit, rose, guava
• Low calories, light sugar—aimed at health-conscious partiers.
  • “It’s very wellness-driven.” (Teddi, 07:29)
• Many friends still “spike” Soiree, but Teddi enjoys partying alcohol-free:
  • “I feel like I’m like a real party girl anyway, and I could stay out all night and not drink and that’s it.” (Teddi, 07:43)
  • She admits to preferring gummies and mushrooms to booze—underscoring how wellness and vice intertwine in today’s party scene.

Highlight:
“I don’t feel yucky the next day... but a lot of people spike it because, of course, my friends are still luscious.” (Teddi, 07:33)

---

Drugs, Anxiety, and Bravo Pressures

[07:52 – 08:14]

• The group discusses party drug experiences—mushrooms and anxiety, with the interviewer saying:
  • “Could you imagine my paranoia? Hell no. I am already paranoid and type A right now.” [07:54]
• Tamra encourages self-appreciation:
  • “You’ve done podcast today. You’ve been amazing and you do not need a mushroom. You just need to go with your day.” [08:08]

---

Crossover Reality—Empathy for Gia Giudice & Teresa

[08:34 – 10:22]

• Teddi recounts a meaningful exchange with Gia Giudice at BravoCon:
  • “She brought me to tears… She’s a very strong, wonderful young lady.” [08:47]
• Teddi offers rare praise for Teresa Giudice, expressing real emotion over harsh treatment on Special Forces:
  • “The way she was spoken to, that brought me to tears. I don’t like any woman being spoken to like that… I even called Melissa.” [09:09]
• Hosts share empathetic reactions to reality TV’s emotional toll, discussing how mother-daughter bonds are tested and displayed.
• Teddi admits:
  • “You still have empathy for the situation… seeing her be screamed out like that, I freaked out a little bit. I was like, I’m sick to my stomach.” [10:01]
• All agree: despite drama, there’s real humanity and connection underneath.

Notable Quote:
“I do know these women. We don’t have a relationship. But I did have a relationship. And that made me so sick. Like, you still have empathy…for this situation.” (Teddi, 10:01)

---

Would You Do It? Reality Show Limits

[10:29 – 11:11]

• Teddi says she could never do an intense competition like Special Forces:
  • “I am such weak sauce with stuff like that. What? Are you kidding me?” [10:29]
  • But admits she’d do The Traitors:
    • “I definitely would do Traitors… I’m not weak sauce for that.” [10:38]
  • On her boundaries: “I don’t physically suffer well... I like to do Pilates... I’d be like, poked his eyes out and like left. I’d be like, that is not for me. I’m not in the mud.” [10:47]

---

Notable Quotes

• “I could be in a room with anybody. Even the people that hate my guts.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp [03:40]

• “I consider… fellatio… doing anything with somebody’s lower extremities… you’re a done deal.”
  — Tamra Judge [04:57]

• “I feel like I’m like a real party girl anyway, and I could stay out all night and not drink and that’s it.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp [07:43]

• “The way she was spoken to, that brought me to tears. I don’t like any woman being spoken to like that.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp [09:09]

• “I don’t physically suffer well… I like to do Pilates. I’m not in the mud.”
  — Teddi Mellencamp [10:47]

---

Key Timestamps

• 03:33 – Discussing BravoCon nerves and social tensions
• 04:03 – Speculating on Heather Gay and Captain Jason rumors
• 05:18 – 06:28 – What counts as sex? Housewives candidness
• 06:30 – 07:43 – Teddi’s Soiree mocktail line at Caesars
• 07:52 – 08:14 – Party drugs, wellness, and anxiety
• 08:34 – 10:22 – Empathy for Gia & Teresa Giudice/Special Forces reflections
• 10:29 – 11:11 – Would Teddi do Special Forces? Drawing the line at physical suffering

---

Tone & Takeaway

The episode is honest, fun, and full of the Housewives’ signature mix of shade, warmth, and self-deprecation. Tamra and Teddi mine both the outrageous and the heartfelt from BravoCon and their lives, offering both gossip and reflection. Listeners come away with inside peeks at Bravo relationships, real talk about boundaries and wellness, and reminders that, under all the on-screen drama, these stars share empathy and real-life connections.

---

Transcript

[Podcast Host]

This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.

[Interviewer]

Remember when people were nice? When we could occasionally stop fighting and come together? Well, here's some good news. The Ripple Effect is here. Hosted by comedian Jenna Kim Jones. It's a show about how powerful it is when we reach out to one another. It's the perfect weekly proof that goodness isn't gone. The Ripple Effect is more than a podcast. It's a reminder that you can start a ripple that changes every everything. Listen to the ripple effect on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Commercial Narrator]

Sandals and Beaches Resorts offer their best, all inclusive value in the Caribbean through their all in one pricing. Located across the Caribbean's most stunning islands, Sandals Adults Only Resorts offers immersive experiences, gourmet dining, plus both land and water activities including Patti Certified scooter, scuba diving, golf and pickleball. Families love Beaches resorts where kids enjoy water parks and parents unwind at the Red Lane SPA. And coming March 2026, beaches Turks and Caicos is set to unveil their latest village Treasure Beach. There's no better place to experience the Caribbean than at resorts founded by a family from the Caribbean. Visit sandals.com or beaches.com for the best, all inclusive resorts and offers.

[Tech Advertiser]

Did you know? Microsoft has officially ended Support for Windows 10 upgrade to Windows 11 with an LG Gram laptop, voted PCMag's Reader's Choice top laptop brand for 2025. Thin and ultra lightweight, the LG Gram keeps you productive anywhere and Windows 11 gives you access to free security updates and ongoing feature upgrades. Visit lgusa.com iheart for great seasonal savings on LG Gram laptops with Windows 11 PC Mag Reader's Choice. Used with permission. All rights reserved.

[High Key Podcast Host]

High Key Listen to High Key, a bold, joyful, unfiltered culture podcast. Speaking of crunchy, what did you think of your trainers? Run. I was amazing on that show, sister.

[Interviewer]

Were you?

[High Key Podcast Host]

I had some. I was amazing. And I was better than you would be if you went. This is exactly why Bob is a good drag queen. Because she won't back down. She's not gonna go double back on that lie. I felt like you came in real hot, real strong, and that is just not the game, girl. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you why you're wrong and I can't wait to do this. Please listen to High key on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Bowen Yang]

This is Bowen Yang from Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, and.

[Matt Rogers]

I'm Matt Rogers from the very same podcast. And guess what? It's the holiday season. And you know what that means. Holiday parties.

[Bowen Yang]

VO Holiday parties. They're the best. But there's always the stress of what to wear, what to bring.

[Matt Rogers]

Easy solution. Okay. Bring a bottle of Casamigos.

[Bowen Yang]

Casamigos. Wow. That is the move you can make.

[Matt Rogers]

Casamigos mules or Casamigos Espresso Amigos cram. And don't forget about Casamigos margaritas. A Casamigos margarita is the perfect cocktail all year round.

[Bowen Yang]

Casamigos is just the perfect gift that keeps on giving.

[Matt Rogers]

And as the saying goes, anything goes with my Casamigos. On second thought, a holiday party might be in order.

[Bowen Yang]

That's a great idea.

[Matt Rogers]

Please drink responsibly. Imported by Casamigos Spirits Company, White Plains, New York. Casamigos tequila. 40% alcohol by volume.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Two teas in a pod with Teddi.

[Podcast Host]

Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Interviewer]

Is there anyone tonight that you're, like, a little bit worried about seeing or.

[Tamara Judge]

This weekend we're excited to see? Worried or excited?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You know, I don't worry about seeing anybody. I feel like I, you know, very comfortable in my own skin, and I could be in a room with anybody. Even the people that hate my guts.

[Tamara Judge]

Good answer.

[Interviewer]

Who do you think hates your guts?

[Commercial Narrator]

Oh, I know who.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

People hate my guts. I know how the gay hates my guts.

[Interviewer]

Heather. Gay.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She'll say. I don't even think about her. That's what she'll say to me. But she was. I will say this.

[Interviewer]

Do you think she made out with Captain Jason or.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I think she would have made out them. I don't know if she banged him.

[Interviewer]

Whoa.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Maybe they didn't totally have sex. Maybe she gave him a blowjob.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't. You know, I can't say we've talked.

[Tamara Judge]

About penises a lot this day.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Something definitely happened. I don't think she's gonna say it if something didn't happen.

[Interviewer]

Well, she's alleged that they kind of did, and then he pulled back from it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes. Listen. I mean, he said they didn't, and she said they did. I think something. Definitely.

[Tamara Judge]

Wow. So they're both. Did not. They're both saying it was just an answer.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It was just a tip.

[Podcast Host]

Exactly.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, well, thanks. Still banging. Definitely happening.

[Interviewer]

Still banging.

[Tamara Judge]

If it's just the tip, yeah. Banging.

[Interviewer]

You think? So, do you consider blowjob sex?

[Tamara Judge]

I consider. Okay, not. Yeah, I kind of consider anything. You do not. I mean, kissing's still crossing a line. Obviously. But I wouldn't say if you're cheating or whatever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Or whatever.

[Tamara Judge]

Or, like, you're kissing, you're making out.

[Commercial Narrator]

You.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

I. I consider. I consider, you know, fellatio. I think doing anything with somebody's lower extremities is like vagina, penis. I think it's pretty much. Yeah, you're a done deal. You're. You're.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's fooling around. It's definitely fooling around, but it's not sex.

[Tamara Judge]

Because I would think sex.

[Interviewer]

It's.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think sex.

[Interviewer]

Number. Would you up your number?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, no, I don't. I wouldn't up my number with that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I can't. I can't even count my number. I can't remember.

[Tamara Judge]

Teddy, you are 1 million percent right. Then it's not. She just proved us both wrong. You know why? Because the only number count you get is when there's insertion. But I still think the tip is insertion. It has. It has entered the perimeter.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay. It's entered the perimeter.

[Interviewer]

I do not think just the tip counts.

[Commercial Narrator]

Oh, wow.

[Interviewer]

Okay. Well, I want to keep my number under 20, guys under 20.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, I'm gonna be honest. I mean, I'm 58. Mine is definitely over 20.

[Interviewer]

How many tips have you had that you didn't go all the way? A lot. Really. There's a tip thing.

[Tamara Judge]

I can't do a tip without going. I would want it all. At that point, I'm like, we're doing it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Sneaking in.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. When you're younger, you plan the. You plan not for it to happen, and then the tip slides in a little bit.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. That's when you're like, no, girl, girl.

[Interviewer]

And then all of a sudden, I'm almost Mormon, and I'm like, don't bed hop.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay. You are so funny. I love that.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my gosh.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's scary. I can't remember.

[Interviewer]

So what are you here doing tonight?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, tonight I have a soiree event. Caesar's. I'm very lucky. Bought my mocktail line, so they have it in their bars, and they also have it at a plane.

[Interviewer]

Tell us what it's called.

[Podcast Host]

Ca.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Soiree.

[Interviewer]

Soiree.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Since I don't drink alcohol, but it's like an elevated beverage. Very layered. I have one that's cucumber, mint, lychee, and elderflower.

[Interviewer]

What's your favorite one?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's actually my favorite. It also cures nausea. It's only 45 calories.

[Interviewer]

I need that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, you'll have that tonight. You'll have time for this. I feel like, it always makes me feel better. It's very light, low in sugar. And then there's the margarita. That's passion fruit, rose and guava. Those are the two flavors they bought. So that's. So that's what we're doing tonight. So we're doing a private little event tonight and you'll be attending at Caesars. Yes. Do they.

[Commercial Narrator]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Thank you. I'm so excited, by the way. But do they. So when you said 45 calories, do they have like stevia or something in it or just monk fruit? This is important.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

A little sugar. Real sugar.

[Tamara Judge]

That's amazing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's very. It's very wellness driven.

[Interviewer]

But listen, a lot of feel yucky the next day.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You don't feel yucky the next day. I don't. But a lot of people spike it because, of course, my friends are still luscious. We can't all be like you.

[Commercial Narrator]

Sorry.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, no, no.

[Interviewer]

We.

[Tamara Judge]

We. I'm.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I feel like I'm like a real party girl anyway, and I could stay out all night and not drink and that's it. Mushrooms gummies. So they, you know, you can't do everything.

[Interviewer]

I can't do anything.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

I know people are like, have you tried mushrooms? I'm like, could you imagine my paranoia? Hell no. I am already paranoid in Taipei right now. Add in like an extracurricular. I just don't. I don't.

[Tamara Judge]

Hey, girl, you've done podcast today. You've been amazing and you do not need a mushroom. You just need to go with your date.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Go. You did it.

[Interviewer]

Oh, thank you so much. Any other sneak peeks you could give us onto what to expect with you guys? Because I really.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Can I tell you, I really don't know. I wish they would tell me.

[Tamara Judge]

And no run ins and elevators or weird things like I've had. Like.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Or.

[Tamara Judge]

Or Teddy has a funny story too, probably.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You haven't had any weird things. Nothing weird.

[Interviewer]

Okay. No.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I will tell you. I saw Gia, you know, and I know that Giudice is still. But she. I love her. I will tell you why. I did watch Gia on Special Forces and she. She brought me to tears.

[Interviewer]

Oh, my gosh. She brought me to tears too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I saw her today and I was like, gia, you're amazing. You brought me to tears. She's a very strong, wonderful young lady. And did she hug you?

[Interviewer]

Yeah, she didn't.

[Podcast Host]

We didn't hug.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But you know what?

[Tamara Judge]

You did.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You did. Us. So gracious. We had a nice conversation and I. And then I am going to say Something positive about Teresa. And this is what. And even that we don't get along. She's on special Forces. The way she was spoken to, that brought me to tears.

[Interviewer]

I know when she was screamed at.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't like any woman being spoken to like that. And I think that's why I get so triggered when I see videos like that and things that are so upsetting. It makes me anxious, thinking, I hope she's not being spoken to. That. When I saw her spoken to that way on that, I even called Melissa. I was like, that makes me sick.

[Interviewer]

I know when she was like, that was rude.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That was rude. And then she got ripped to shreds. Yeah, I got physically ill. Me too. Because I do not remember.

[Interviewer]

I felt the same exact way. And I'm not even through it, but I watched it with my son and he was like, mom, can you believe? And I was like, no, I mean it. But how much their relationship is bonded, that also got me because she's like, I'm leaving. Cause I can't see my daughter be punched.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And it was just. And I. And then Gia was crying. It just. It really brought me to tears. And I was like, I do know these women. We don't have a relationship. But I did have a relationship. And that made me so sick. Like, you still have empathy. You still have empathy for the situation, for this situation. And, you know, seeing her be screamed out like that, I freaked out a little bit. I was like, I'm sick to my stomach.

[Interviewer]

No, I felt the same way. Oh, I'm so glad you reminded me of that because that really was heartbreaking. Have you. Yes.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I can never do a show like that. They would never ask me to do a show like that. No. I am such weak sauce with stuff like that. What? Are you kidding me? I would never do that.

[Interviewer]

Would you do traders?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I definitely would do traders that. I'm not weak sauce for that. I'm really good.

[Interviewer]

I think you'd be great at that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think I could be. So what's your traders?

[Tamara Judge]

What's your cutoff then? It's like you don't want to do.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't physically suffer. Well, I am not. No, I'll be. No. I don't know. I don't put myself in situation like that. I like to do Pilates. I don't like to. You know, you're like stretching, elongating. You're not like. I like to go into the reformer. I mean, anybody screamed my face, I would like, been like, poked his eyes out and like left I'd be like, that is not for me. I'm not in the mud. I mean, things like that is not for me jumping out of planes.

[Interviewer]

No, I know. Well, we thank you so much. We just got the two minute mark so we know we have to go. But thank you so much for coming on. Thanks for having me.

[Tamara Judge]

Amazing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This was the best.

[Interviewer]

Thank you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Love you too. Thank you.

[Interviewer]

SA. Foreign.

[Commercial Narrator]

Beaches resorts offer their best all inclusive value in the Caribbean through their all in one pricing. Located across the Caribbean's most stunning islands, Sandals Adults Only Resorts offers immersive experiences, gourmet dining, plus both land and water activities and including padi certified scuba diving, golf and pickleball. Families love Beaches resorts where kids enjoy water parks and parents unwind at the Red Lane SPA. And coming March 2026, beaches Turks and Caicos is set to unveil their latest village, Treasure Beach. There's no better place to experience the Caribbean than at resorts founded by a family from the Caribbean. Visit sandals.com or beaches.com for the best all inclusive resorts and offers.

[Tech Advertiser]

Did you know Microsoft has officially ended Support for Windows 10? Upgrade to Windows 11 with an LG Gram laptop, voted PCMag's Reader's Choice top laptop brand for 2025. Thin and ultra lightweight, the LG Gram keeps you productive anywhere and Windows 11 gives you access to free security updates and ongoing feature upgrades. Visit LGUSA.com iHeart for great seasonal savings on LG Gram laptops with Windows 11. PCMag reader's choice used with permission. All rights reserved.

[Commercial Narrator]

A GLP1 helped you lose weight, but now you're noticing unwanted facial changes. The weight came off, but facial volume loss and dull sagging skin are making you look older. That's where the next phase of your weight loss journey comes in. There's before weight loss, after weight loss, and the after after. Help restore and refresh your facial skin and reclaim your natural looking youthful glow. To learn more, visit faceafterweightloss.com that's faceafterweightloss.com.

[Bowen Yang]

This is Bowen Yang from Los Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang.

[Matt Rogers]

And I'm Matt Rogers from the very same podcast. And guess what? It's the holiday season. And you know what that means. Holiday parties, bro.

[Bowen Yang]

Holiday parties. They're the best, but there's always the stress of what to wear, what to bring.

[Matt Rogers]

Easy solution. Okay, bring a bottle of Casamigos.

[Bowen Yang]

Casamigos. Wow, that is the move you can make.

[Matt Rogers]

Casamigos Mules or Casamigos Espresso Martinis or Casamigos cram.

[Bowen Yang]

And don't forget about Casamigos Margaritas.

[Matt Rogers]

A Casamigos margarita is the perfect cocktail all year round.

[Bowen Yang]

Casamigos is just the perfect gift that keeps on giving.

[Matt Rogers]

And as the saying goes, anything goes with my Casamigos. On second thought, a holiday party might be in order.

[Bowen Yang]

That's a great ide.

[Matt Rogers]

Please drink responsibly. Imported by Casamigos Spirits Co. White Plains, N.Y. casamigos Tequila 40% alcohol by volume.

[Podcast Host]

You've got the New Year's motivation, but the crowded gym? Not so much. Keep your drive. With iFit, we bring the world's best trainers right to your living room. Whether you want to crush a studio cycle class, build strength, or zen out with yoga, iFit adapts to your pace and your schedule. No waiting, no judgment, just results. Make 2026 the year it sticks. Start [e-mail] this is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.