We Have the Ick (RHOSLC Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod: "We Have the Ick" (RHOSLC Recap)

Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Date: November 20, 2025
Platform: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge recap both their recent experience at BravoCon and the latest episode of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC). The pair dive into BravoCon behind-the-scenes tea, weigh in on cast drama, relationships, and much-discussed moments from RHOSLC. True to form, the conversation flows with candor, fun, and signature Housewives sass, all while breaking down Andy Cohen’s claim that this RHOSLC episode is one of his "top ten of all time."

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Post-BravoCon Blues and Highlights

• Both hosts reflect on the emotional and physical exhaustion that hit right after BravoCon wrapped.
  • Teddi: "I'm not sick, but I'm super emotional. Like, cried all morning." (03:50)
  • Tamra: "It was like putting together a big wedding and then… your body's exhausted." (03:56)
• Touching moments included the camaraderie, surprise gifts (like the Rachel Zoe packages), and the general feeling of support at the event.
• Some fun inside details: Vicki still "holding onto her orange" (07:31), and old castmates sharing sentimental photos.

BravoCon Drama & Exclusive Tea

• The hosts express confusion over social media-fueled post-con drama, including reported altercations (like Portia's incident and Lisa vs. Julia, with "hours and hours" of conversations and tears).
• "I have a little bit of tea," Teddi teases, diving into late-night reconciliations among cast members. (06:42)

RHOSLC Recap: Episode Analysis

Why Andy Cohen Loved It

• Tamra suspects it's due to Mary being "in her element" and the episode’s focus on behind-the-scenes personal story (13:43).
• Teddi points out, "He said it was the top ten housewives." (13:54)
• Both agree it felt perhaps overhyped compared to past legendary episodes.

Relationship Drama Galore

• The episode revolves around personal struggles, especially the state of marriages, leading Tamra to dub it: "They should have just labeled it 'my marriage falling apart.'" (14:16)
• Teddi: "Everyone was talking about their marriage." (14:24)
• Both find it a tad "scripted" but admit it works for the show’s entertainment value.

Brittany’s Storyline and the Infamous Plane Incident

• Questions remain about the lack of footage/proof of the big in-flight drama, drawing comparisons to "Heather’s black eye" mystery from prior seasons.
  • Tamra: "Why wasn't any video taken?... Someone would take video." (21:59)
  • Teddi: "Something's not adding up." (22:30)
• The hosts suspect the story is exaggerated or strategically amped up by the cast, causing some skepticism.

Key Cast Dynamics

• Whitney confronts Bronwyn about her missing wedding ring and suspected issues with Todd. The women have strong opinions about sharing private details on camera.
  • "She took her wedding ring off because she told him he had to go sleep somewhere else. Yes, I do," says Teddi on the drastic move. (24:04)
• Mary and her son Robert Jr.: Heartfelt scenes about his spiritual journey and addiction struggles. Both hosts note the segment's emotional weight.
  • "We see him not making it to the opening of her church because he was high that day." (24:44)
  • Tamra: "Very, very sad." (25:09)
• Lisa and John’s Coffee Date: Lisa is called out for not listening and glued to her phone.
  • Tamra: "As she's on her phone. What did you say? Like, like, like. What did you say? Like..." (25:22)
  • Teddi: "I was counting how many times she said like." (25:28)

The "Ick" with Jared and Brittany

• Both hosts seriously dislike Jared’s attitude.
  • Tamra: "He gives me the ick." (26:38)
  • Teddi: "I think she just wants to be loved." (26:57)
• They question why Brittany returns to him, critiquing his selfishness and lack of support.

Open Relationship Rumors (Bronwyn & Todd)

• Tamra is shocked at Todd’s willingness to film and speculates about their marriage:
  • "I feel like maybe Bronwyn wants to be in an open relationship and she keeps using as an excuse...But why would she want that?" (32:57)
  • Teddi: "Because I think she wants to stay married to him and...But he keeps stepping out." (33:17)
• Debate over whether rumors about Todd's behavior hold weight.

Memorable Shady/Comic Moments

• The hosts discuss awkward award show moments and on-stage shade-throwing at BravoCon.
  • Tamra: "When they asked me who was the thirstiest housewife, I instantly said Stacy, because, you know, I was sticking up for Kyle." (35:09)
• They laugh over a scene with Heather and Whitney discussing rotten broccoli:
  • Teddi: "Can we talk about one other thing? I don't need to know that broccoli smells like poop." (37:22)
  • Tamra: "That...is a shitty smell. That's for sure." (37:55)

RHOSLC Episode Final Thoughts

• Both agree it was enjoyable, but not necessarily “top 10” as Andy Cohen claimed.
  • "It was a lot of personal story. It was a lot of relationship story...Would I agree with Andy Cohen? No, I don't think it was the best episode." – Tamra (38:06)
• The episode’s lack of group drama is noted as both notable and a bit of a letdown for longtime viewers craving more classic Housewives conflict.

Quick Bravo World Updates

• Heather Gay is announced for the next Love Hotel.
• Upcoming Ultimate Girls Trip: "Road Trip" is teased—one Housewife from each city for a cross-country adventure.
• Rhode Island cast is getting attention for the uncanny Dolores Doppleganger.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• "I'm not sick, but I'm super emotional. Like, cried all morning."
  — Teddi Mellencamp (03:50)
• "Sometimes you just have to almost die for...to get some love."
  — Teddi Mellencamp, joking about post-con affection (04:22)
• "They should have just labeled it 'my marriage falling apart.' Everybody was talking about their marriage."
  — Tamra Judge (14:16)
• "Why wasn't any video taken? ... Someone would take video."
  — Tamra Judge, on the plane mystery (21:59)
• "He gives me the ick."
  — Tamra Judge, about Jared (26:38)
• "Can we talk about one other thing? I don't need to know that broccoli smells like poop."
  — Teddi Mellencamp (37:22)
• "Would I agree with Andy Cohen? No, I don't think it was the best episode."
  — Tamra Judge (38:06)
• "Hopefully soon...because we're about to be done with Orange County. This is the final week."
  — Both hosts, on upcoming franchise transitions (39:50)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Post-BravoCon Catch Up & Feelings: 03:36 – 07:58
• BravoCon Tea & Drama: 06:04 – 07:58
• RHOSLC Recap Begins (Andy's Reaction, Relationship Drama): 13:35 – 16:24
• Brittany's Storyline & The Plane Incident: 20:30 – 22:56
• Bronwyn/Todd Marriage Issues: 23:18 – 24:09, 32:34 – 33:37
• Lisa & John’s Relationship Tension: 25:13 – 25:50
• Brittany/Jared "The Ick": 26:15 – 27:09
• Heather/Wilting Broccoli Scene: 37:22 – 37:55
• RHOSLC Episode Wrap Up: 38:06 – 38:41
• Bravo News & Franchise Announcements: 38:41 – 40:28

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Episode Tone & Vibe

The episode is a mix of light-hearted Housewives banter, heartfelt concern for cast members’ real-life struggles, and pointed shade that keeps fans tuning in. Both Teddi and Tamra keep the conversation lively and off-the-cuff, drawing on their own experiences and Housewives expertise to break down both the fun and the farcical of Bravo world.

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For RHOSLC and Bravo superfans, this episode provides an unfiltered, detailed lens into the latest drama, on and off-screen, with enough sass and realism to keep you engaged throughout.

Transcript

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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Two t's in a pod with teddy mellencamp and tamara jud. Hi, guys.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Hi, Teddy. I haven't talked to you since Bravo Con.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. Can you believe.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. Are you feeling okay? Because all of us got sick.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm not sick, but I'm super emotional. Like, cried all morning.

[Tamara Judge]

That's so funny. It was. I felt the same way when I got home from Bravocon. It was like, almost like putting together a big wedding and then at. The aftermath is just over now.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. And then you're just. Your body's exhausted and you just feel so run down, and I. I don't know. Like, this morning I was just, like, crying and like, what the hell is going on?

[Tamara Judge]

Is it because of all the love you got at Bravocon?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh. I can't believe it. No, but that was so nice. Everybody was so kind. I've. I've never. You know, sometimes you just have to almost die for. To get some love.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, now let's not go there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Jeez.

[Tamara Judge]

I love presenting with you. That was the highlight of my trip.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. I loved presenting with you, too. And then, I mean, I would say we had so much fun.

[Tamara Judge]

We did. We had a blast. It was a. I mean, but we were so busy the entire time. So when we were not at Bravocon, we were at the Iheart suite where we were podcasting. And then we. Obviously, we brought Alexis in to be there when we couldn't be there, and seems like she did a good job. Lots of great reviews. I hope you guys have listened to all the BravoCon podcasts that we put out there, because there was quite a bit.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, we got a lot done. We did a lot.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you get a present in your room?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I Did From Rachel Zell?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. I just. I just thanked her. I just posted with the glasses and the perfume and the slippers and all that stuff. It was really sweet of her to do that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. That was so nice of her to do it. And it smells good.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, when I was on a panel, the Beverly Hills Girls said, I didn't get that present. It was cute. Everybody was walking around with either two T's and the pod slippers or Rach's o the leopard ones.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Did anybody surprise you or did you meet anybody that was like, wow, I.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Thought everybody was so nice and so fun. And the fact that there was all these fights afterwards, I'm so confused.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, there's always drama. It seems like there was more drama leaving. There was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Than at Bravo Con.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Portia got in trouble with something. She got an altercation on a flight. We still don't not clear on that. And then there was another one, too. Was it?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Lisa and Julia.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I haven't heard much about that one.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, apparently Lisa was just, like, trying to be, like, fine and cool about it, but Julia was, like, going off and then saying, I'm not trying to cause a big deal, but I'm not trying to cause a big deal, but you also. I have a little bit of tea.

[Tamara Judge]

What?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So the night of. I don't know which night it was, but the night that we had the after party at that steakhouse. Yeah. Julia and Adriana were out there talking for hours and hours and hours, crying and talking.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, so they made amends.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Who knows?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, look at you, Teddy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Getting all the dirt, getting some tea.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. But we had a. A great time. I mean, I'm glad it's over, and I'm glad it's only every other year, because it is, truly. Is that a thing?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is that every other year forever?

[Tamara Judge]

I think so, yeah. I think it takes so much into the planning that it. That's what I heard. But I might be wrong.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And then. How's Vicki doing?

[Tamara Judge]

Vicki's doing good. She's still holding on to her orange.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That was so cute. That picture of her in bed holding the orange. I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Super cute. And she. We're on a group chat, me, Heather and Vicky, and Heather's been sending memories of, you know, 10, 15 years ago when we were all on together, and, you know, it's just brought back so many warm and fuzzy memories when we actually had fun on the show. And it wasn't like playing a game of Survivor.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We need that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So. So we're all. Now we're all sending pictures back and forth, and it's been. It's been fun. Did you. When we got back from Bravicon, we got quite a surprise on our feed.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What?

[Tamara Judge]

Mauricio's sexy pictures on People magazine. The level of cringe I felt at that moment when I saw it. What is he doing?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. The belly button.

[Tamara Judge]

The belly button. I mean, all he needed was a little hoop hanging from his belly button. And the leather pants. The leather pants. What is. What. Have you talked to Kyle about this?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I haven't talked to her yet about it.

[Tamara Judge]

She must have just went, oh, dear Lord, no. And then I hear they had, like, a party in Beverly Hills to celebrate it. To celebrate it in PK Reza. Jesse Lolly were there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. What a bunch of studs.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I think we were even invited at BravoCon.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We were?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. From Spencer, the rep of Jesse. And we're like, no, we're good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Sorry. We can barely stand up straight and get ourselves together to get home. So. Do you mind? How was Revaz?

[Tamara Judge]

It was good, but I was having a hard time staying awake.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You? Yeah. I don't. I can't.

[Tamara Judge]

For one thing, I was exhausted. Another thing is a movie theaters usually put me to sleep. And second, it was just the. I don't know, like, the visual of it was just very sleepy. It was good, though.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was good.

[Tamara Judge]

And it wasn't too long.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, that's what I heard. I did. I talked to Brad Gretzky, and he said it was, like, the perfect length.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Because anything longer, like, I was literally leaning on my knees, so I wouldn't. If I put my head back, I'd fall asleep. So I had to lean forward to even watch it. I mean, it was weird. It's like I took a sleeping pill. I was just like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Did you have any drama with anybody at bravocon?

[Tamara Judge]

No, I didn't have any drama. I mean, there was a confusion with Chanel Ion, because, you know, the photo op. I don't think you did photo ops. Right. The big white booth, the big tent that they had to take us in a golf court, too. Well, there's, like, people pay for who they want to take pictures with. So there's multiple people on this big backdrop, and it was me and Katie. And then next to us was another line for Chanel and Chanel. She didn't know that. So she came over and was just, like, standing next to me and Katie, and. And we're getting ready to take pictures, and her line there's nobody there for them to take pictures with. So I go, no, no, you have to go over there. And she thought that I was dissing her and didn't want her in our pictures. I go, no, sweetie, that's not what happened. You had your own line for people that wanted to take pictures with you, but that was really about it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That was it. Well, that's a step up for us, because I feel like last time we had lots of drama.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, we did.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is this what we call growth?

[Tamara Judge]

I felt like this Bravocon was different for some reason. I felt like there was less people, less. Less talent there. Do you remember last time? We'd have to go to the suite, walk down all the way down the hall to the suite. It was like a hospitality suite. Then we would all gather there before we had to go do something. Then we had to walk all the way the hall.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Why don't they separated us?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, they didn't do that this year. Now they. Everybody meets downstairs. You just get in the car, which.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Makes it so much easier, so much better.

[Tamara Judge]

But I felt like. I don't know. I feel like I did. I saw the same people over and over again in between breaks. Like, when we go into the main, like, room where we just hang out, the green room where the food was and stuff. I feel like I just kept seeing the same people.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, know what I want to watch after this? What? The McBee dynasty.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I have to tell you, they are so sweet.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You talk to them.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So I was on Watch what happens live with Stephen and then got to know him there, and then he sent over his. Some of his meat to us because they. They do all kinds of stuff. They have a ranch. They have, like, a. I don't know, a meat service where they deliver steaks, and then they have car washes. And I hadn't met Cole before because he was not. Watch what happens live. But Cole, Jesse, and Stephen on all super nice. Now, you. Do you know the backstory? What's going on with that family?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I got some of it from Galena. Yeah, Galena. She. She kind of filled me in on what's going on.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So my.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And they all said that she was scared of her.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, because she's crazy. Crazy good for tv. Like, I think she, like, slit somebody's tires on tv. Like, she's done. She's good tv. I'll tell you that. And she's such a sweetheart in real life, too.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know. That's the crazy part.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, so their father's going to prison. So they're going to be. That's all going to be shown and everything on the show. So he was under a federal investigation for crop insurance fraud or something like that. Well, so me and Steven were at a photo op together, and three girls walked up with FBI hats on because I wore one on the show. When he saw them, his face dropped. I go, no, no, no, no, no.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's not for you.

[Tamara Judge]

It's not for your dad. It's for me. And he's like, oh, I got worried. I go, yeah, these Bravo fans are crazy. They're crazy.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. He got all worried.

[Tamara Judge]

That is the sweetest, sweetest guys.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay, another thing that we need to discuss is that Andy said this was his favorite episode of Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

[Tamara Judge]

I think I know why.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Why?

[Tamara Judge]

I think it was because Mary was in her element. She opened her church up, and there was, like, a lot of personal story this. This episode.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He said it was the top ten housewives.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, well, let's not get crazy. I don't think it was that great. I think it. I think it was Mary. You know, Mary son was in it, and she's been very open and honest about his struggles.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

All the relationships, they all kind of opened up about where they were struggling in their personal relationships.

[Tamara Judge]

It was like they should have just labeled it my marriage falling apart. Everybody was talking about their marriage.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Everyone was talking about their marriage.

[Tamara Judge]

And we'll get into that, but it's just. It's feeling a little scripted.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It definitely is a little scripted.

[Tamara Judge]

It's good, though. It's good. I mean, if that's what they have to do to make it good, then that's what they have to do. But, yeah, it was just. I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

Then there's the denim that goes with everything. Silk tops and skirts for when you need to look put together. Cashmere beanies and scarves and down jackets that actually keep you warm.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, it started out where Whitney planned a surprise potluck in honor of Britney. They made recordings for Britney Mary's Animal. Mary's Animal is silent. She is only being cordial since what Meredith did isn't okay, do you how.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you feel about the ladies making their hair high body count in honor of Brittany? Was it subtle shade? Was it funny?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Was it I didn't Find it very funny. Yeah. I feel like. Did you find it funny?

[Tamara Judge]

I didn't find it funny, but I didn't find it not funny. Like, I was just like, okay. But they're so used to being in costumes and, you know. You know what I mean? Like, every single scene, they have to do something like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I love that Mary chose not to partake.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, this is like Stacey all over again with. Doesn't have her name on her robe and all that. Like, they're just. I mean, Mary. I would have to say I met Mary for the first time at Bravocon. I think it was the first time. So sweet, so nice.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Great.

[Tamara Judge]

She is.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know her now.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you feel like they're using Britney to try to ice Meredith, Meredith and Lisa out?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know, because I don't think it's gonna work.

[Tamara Judge]

No. I feel like what they're doing to Meredith and Lisa is the same thing my cast did to me and Katie.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. But I do think the fact that the cast coming together for Britney like this proves that what happened on the plane was just way too much. Even though we still haven't seen any.

[Tamara Judge]

Proof of it, I'm still thinking about the plane. This is like Heather's black eye. Are we ever going to know? Why don't we see the proof? Why wasn't any video taken? Are they. Did these girls bind together and say, listen, let's make this a bigger deal than it is? I don't know. I don't get it. Because I'm telling you, somebody would take video sort of little, and if the crew was there, they would do it as well. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And we know that they were sitting in the seats next to them.

[Tamara Judge]

Something's not adding up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Something's not adding up.

[Tamara Judge]

I feel like it was exaggerated.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I do, too. Well, it's either exaggerated or they were all really sleeping for the majority of it. So nobody has the full.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, if they're all talking like they heard it and it was some horrible situation, but yet we don't have any proof. So it's really hard to go, oh, wow, that was horrible. When there's no proof.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, we didn't see any of it. Then Whitney calls out Bronwyn for not wearing her wedding ring. And that's when she tells the group about Todd on a plane looking at photo of a girl. He got defensive, so she told him to leave the house. Whitney lobbing Bronwyn another chance to throw her under the bus. To throw him under the bus. I was like, oh, gosh.

[Tamara Judge]

Every Time Bronwyn starts talking about him. I just think Todd is going to watch this. He's going to hear this. But then later on in the episode when they have their sit down, I was shocked about how open and honest he was for the things she was saying to him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He didn't really seem that open and honest. He seemed like he was just, like, going through the motions.

[Tamara Judge]

Maybe open and honest is not the right choices of words. Just the fact that he was there entertaining that conversation. I know it just because it seems like he doesn't want to film. But then when he does film, the conversation they have, I'm like, what is going on here? I know, but don't you think it's a little drastic? She took her wedding ring off because she told him he had to go sleep somewhere else.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yes, I do.

[Tamara Judge]

And then Whitney calls out Bronwyn. But yet then in her confessional, or maybe even in scene, Bronwyn's like, yeah, I told Whitney. So Whitney already knew. She knew when the ring was off.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know, I know. It felt to me. This is where they. They lose me a little bit.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then Mary takes Robert Jr. To her church and ask where he is spiritually. He said during a meetings he knew who his higher power was. And she says, if he doesn't have that help from the higher power, he will stay in the dark circle. This, in hindsight, makes me so sad because then we are flash forward. We see him not making it the opening of her church because he was high that day.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah. He even said when he was talking to his mom that a lot of the people that he went to rehab with have already relapsed.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Relapsed. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And it sounds like he went to Malibu.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. When he went to the rehab facility.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But it's really sad.

[Tamara Judge]

Very, very sad.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then John and Lisa go on a coffee date where he tells Lisa. She doesn't listen. And Lisa says, you know what? I'm a great listener. I'm amazing listener.

[Tamara Judge]

As she's on her phone. What did you say? Like, like, like. What did you say? Like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I.

[Tamara Judge]

Like. I was counting how many times she said like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's like, like, like, like. And then John feels like they talk only about business. And Lisa feels like he doesn't hug her as much. I'll tell you what. For once, I believe Lisa Barlow, because John did not look like he wanted to hug her in this moment.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we've never seen John's kind of.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Almost like smirking at her.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, we've never seen John voices opinion to Lisa. Like, he's usually pretty quiet. Takes a back seat. So he must really be annoyed. Yeah, he usually just goes with whatever Lisa says, so obviously there's something going on there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. What about when Brittany meets up with Jared?

[Tamara Judge]

I can't. I can't. When he was. What was he doing? He was standing. Like, they do this shot where he's walking on this field or whatever, out in the woods, and he. What did he say to her? He said something like, stable.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's like, if you're not going to be stable for even 10 minutes, then how are we going to be together? As if he's calling. Like, he called her unstable.

[Tamara Judge]

He gives me the ick.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I. I didn't. They go there. You could tell she wanted to talk about what happened to her. And all he did was talk about himself because he went to meet up with at Justin's house and they told him that Britney was flirting with the below deckman. What?

[Tamara Judge]

Is Brittany seeing him? Can you let me know?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think she just wants to be loved.

[Tamara Judge]

I think Jarrett knows Brittany wants, but he's just dangling this official carrot over her head. It's kind of gross. He would. Did you know he was at Bravocon?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. With her?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She didn't tell us that when she was.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. She didn't tell us that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She made it seem like they were still on a break.

[Tamara Judge]

No, I saw pictures.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh.

[Tamara Judge]

I just don't understand why she keeps running back to him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know. I think because it's what she knows. And I think he was being very selfish in this moment. Like, clearly she's been through enough right now. Like, her saying she wanted a tour of the deck, I don't think was that big of a deal.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, you're talking about Captain Jason.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, because he said, yo, you were flirting with all the guys.

[Tamara Judge]

But why did Justin tell him that? Why would he tell him that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know, Justin. And why didn't we see that scene?

[Tamara Judge]

And by the way, Whitney obviously told her husband, who then told him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it's all a whole thing. It's ridiculous.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then we see Bronwyn and Todd having their conversation. She is open to whatever will make him happy. Explaining to him that she talked to Whitney about their sex life and he was not happy about that. I don't think. I don't think Todd is happy with many things.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm actually shocked Todd is filming this television show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I just spit up my chai latte.

[Tamara Judge]

He wasn't at Bravocon. She was wearing her ring. I feel like maybe Bronwyn wants to be in an open relationship and she keeps using as an excuse because she keeps bringing that up. Like she's brought it up multiple times. Like if you. We could be in a open relationship. But why would she want that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, because I think she wants to stay married to him and. But he keeps stepping out.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, if staying married to somebody means you have to open your relationship to another woman, like that's not to me personally, maybe to other people. Doesn't seem like a very healthy marriage.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. Well, I think you can already tell that they don't have the healthiest of marriages.

[Tamara Judge]

Three is company, baby.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But she's. I think she wants four.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I just see Todd sitting on that couch talking to her and I'm like on his phone.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like on his phone.

[Tamara Judge]

And then thinking.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I was like, is he looking at the pics?

[Tamara Judge]

I know he's got some wild sex life that he needs. Multiple girl.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Wow. He just can't get enough of him.

[Tamara Judge]

Now that. Does this conversation make you think that there was some truth to Todd making out and farting with another girl?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Why'd you have to make me remember that?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, Angie said it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Angie. Well, if Angie said it. Angie won so many awards at BravoCon. Angie and Mary, by the way, Salt.

[Tamara Judge]

Lake City won a ton of. Period.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's true.

[Tamara Judge]

Ton of awards. Did you happen to catch the shady Bravo. The Watch what happens live with the. It was me, Reza, Erica, the ones, you know, the girls that talk shade.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. Give us the juice.

[Tamara Judge]

So basically, Stacy said that Kyle was not nice to her at Bravo Con.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, God.

[Tamara Judge]

So I couldn't help myself because that. That made me mad because I know Kyle's the nicest person in the world. And so when they asked me who was the thirstiest housewife, I instantly said Stacy, because, you know, I was sticking up for Kyle. Besides, hiring TJ as a boyfriend is kind of thirsty.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Then Reza said that Kyle was the most overrated housewife, and I kind of smacked him, like, stop it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What? Why does he. He always has such a thing for her. He has such a hard on.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. I don't know why. I go, oh, stop it. Like that. You see me on stage laughing.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What other questions were asked?

[Tamara Judge]

So Erica was asked who was the worst dress on the panel. And I'm like, oh, God, here it goes. It's gonna be me, right? And she. She goes, angie.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, gosh. Well, Angie had that green glittery thing on.

[Tamara Judge]

She had a green glittery suit, oversized suit. And she's like, well, listen, you're beautiful, but I don't think green's your color. She didn't like the color of it. And then Phaedra was asked who on the panel she didn't know. And she says, well, I think I know everybody. She goes, except for that girl in the end. And it was Emily. And then Angie was asked who had high body count hair, and she looked around, she goes, emily. Emily's like, what the.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it was. It was fun.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was fun. Then we get back, getting back to the episode. It's Mary's church reopening, but she had to leave Robert Jr. At home because he was high. All the women were invited. Except this also confused me. Why were all the women invited except for Britney?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God. I didn't even know that. I didn't even realize that Britney wasn't there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, Britney wasn't there.

[Tamara Judge]

Because she doesn't like her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, but then why did she go to her other event? I'm sorry, that happened on the plane event.

[Tamara Judge]

Did I miss something? Did she say she's purposely not inviting Britney? We.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No one even talked about it, but no mention of it.

[Tamara Judge]

But she went to Britney's high body count hair. Although she did shade her in the fact that she wouldn't put a voice memo in the damn. Build a bear.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I guess we did see the flashback that Brittany says Mary isn't a woman of Christ.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, okay.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So Mary said she was not having Brittany in her church in an interview. So, I mean, that makes sense. Okay, yeah. Can we talk about one other thing? I don't need to know. That broccoli smells like poop.

[Tamara Judge]

Who told you that?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You didn't see that? In the episode when Heather first. Who? Whoever it is first. Heather first walks into Whitney's house. She's like, do you smell that? And she's like, yeah, it smells like poop. What is it? And she's like, I open the broccoli and the broccoli smelled. Oh, that.

[Tamara Judge]

That Actually when you have, you know, vegetables have gone bad in your refrigerator, it is a shitty smell. That's for sure. A shitty mouth.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

My gosh. But I mean.

[Tamara Judge]

Overall, it was a good episode. Would I agree with Andy Cohen? No, I don't think it was the best episode. But I. That leads me to believe that Andy really likes personal story, because that's all it was, was a lot of personal story.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, it was a lot of personal story. It was a lot of relationship story. It wasn't much drama between the girls because I think they were all just busy sharing their own home. Personal drama. But I mean, it was a good episode.

[Tamara Judge]

It was good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It just was an episode. I don't know that I would say top 10 of all time.

[Tamara Judge]

Wait, did we talk about Heather Gay being on Love Hotel?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, we didn't.

[Tamara Judge]

It just came out today. I saw it. They might have announced it at Bravo Con, but I clearly wasn't in that room. But they just showed a picture on Instagram. I think it's true that Heather Gay will be on the next Love Hotel, which totally makes sense. Months.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I just watched her. What's her show called?

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, the documentary.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, I just watched the documentary. I watched it last night.

[Tamara Judge]

I watched two episodes and they were.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was good.

[Tamara Judge]

I haven't watched the third one yet.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Same here. It's good.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And then Rhode Island, I asked Dolores because he announced the cast and all that Dolores's friend on Rhode island looks exactly like Dolores. I'M like, did you have it? Have you guys done a DNA test? I mean, if you see a picture of her, you're going to think it's Dolores. Twins separated at birth is what I.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Need to see the full Rhode island cast. I need a picture.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, it's gonna. Hopefully it's gonna be good. I'm not sure when it comes out, though.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Hopefully soon. Yeah, because we're about. Because we're about to be done with Orange County.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. This week. Thank God.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

This is the final week.

[Tamara Judge]

Thank God.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my gosh.

[Tamara Judge]

And they. What else did they announce? They announced Ultimate Girls Trip. A road trip. Ultimate road trip or something like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Who's in that?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know that they gave out names of who's in it, but from what I've heard, they're taking one person from each cast and they're gonna go on a road trip to each of their towns or something like that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's gonna be a show.

[Tamara Judge]

I think it's for like the 20th anniversary of Housewives. That's why they're doing it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Oh, gosh.

[Tamara Judge]

So that's gonna be fun.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That'll be really fun to watch.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

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[Tamara Judge]

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