What A Sh*t Show (RHOP Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Episode: What A Sh*t Show (RHOP Recap)
Release Date: February 4, 2025

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Introduction

In the episode titled "What A Sh*t Show," hosts Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge dive deep into the latest happenings of The Real Housewives of Potomac (RHOP). Skipping past the advertisements and intros, the duo engages in candid conversations, dissecting the drama, alliances, and pivotal moments from the recent season. Their chemistry and insider perspectives offer listeners an engaging and insightful recap of the show.

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Reunion Trailer Breakdown

The episode opens with Teddi and Tamra discussing the unexpected twists revealed in the RHOP reunion trailer.

• Tamra [03:04]: "Well, it got better with the reunion trailer for Real Housewives of Potomac. Wow."

• Teddi [04:18]: "They have a little picture of Karen, like one of the photos they have at Traders."

The hosts note the absence of Karen and how her presence, even in photos, sets the stage for unresolved tensions. They highlight Ashley's comment about showing her bunion to Karen, expressing amusement and mild criticism of Karen's handling of appearances.

• Tamra [04:46]: "I know. Ashley said, I'm showing my bunion off to Karen. I would probably rather see Ashley's bunion than the inside of a jail cell."

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Karen Huger's Legal Troubles

A significant portion of the episode focuses on Karen Huger's legal issues stemming from a DUI charge.

• Tamra [14:21]: "Then we get to a headline. Karen Huger fires lawyers after guilty verdict. Asked to delay DUI sentencing for rehab. Huger."

The hosts speculate on Karen's strategic moves, questioning the timing of firing her attorney and seeking an extension for sentencing.

• Teddi [14:32]: "Well, she's trying to buy time. And I think, you know, you fire your attorney and then you have to ask for an extension because you have a new attorney that needs to get caught up so it's."

They discuss the potential consequences Karen faces, including up to two years in prison, and express skepticism about the reliability of leaked information regarding the DUI incident.

• Tamra [06:43]: "But do we think that whoever Karen is dating can run fast enough to flee from the police?"

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Cast Dynamics and Conflicts

Teddi and Tamra delve into the intricate relationships and conflicts among the cast members.

• Teddi [04:57]: "Tj, no matter what situation, I know he won you over at that one lunch."

They analyze the strained relationship between Stacy and Karen, especially after Stacy confronts Karen about her backstabbing tendencies.

• Tamra [23:02]: "And then Stacy says Karen has a problem, but she took me aside over hers."

The hosts commend Stacy for standing her ground and question Karen's motives for continuously trying to maintain her relevance within the group.

• Teddi [32:58]: "But also, I want to know, like, did she fully drive through it or did she like just do a quick stop or."

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Event Highlights and Drama

The discussion moves to key events from the season, including charity events, personal revelations, and on-screen confrontations.

• Teddi [36:14]: "Yeah, I know. I'm sure we don't know everything."

They recount the chaotic "Stacey's Strut for Strays" event, highlighting the tension between Stacey and Karen, the mishaps with the dogs, and the dramatic fallout.

• Tamra [38:09]: "I don't want someone."

The hosts critique Karen's over-the-top reaction to the dogs' mishaps, finding it unnecessarily dramatic.

• Teddi [38:37]: "Don't you want to see Giselle get married?"

They also touch upon Giselle's heartfelt moments, including planting a tree for her father, which adds an emotional layer to the otherwise tumultuous season.

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Looking Ahead to the Reunion

As the episode nears its conclusion, Teddi and Tamra build anticipation for the upcoming reunion special.

• Tamra [41:27]: "I know. I miss Robin."

• Teddi [41:33]: "It's three. Get that money."

They tease the inclusion of former cast member Jason and announce their plans to podcast live from New Orleans during the Super Bowl, promising real-time updates and special episodes.

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Fan Reactions and Final Thoughts

The hosts share fan sentiments, expressing relief and support for certain cast members while lamenting the absence of others.

• Tamra [15:47]: "Like, I'll lose it."

They reflect on the season's most controversial moments, acknowledging the complexity of the cast's interactions and the unpredictable nature of reality TV drama.

• Teddi [37:06]: "But do you think that Stacy should have brought this earlier in the season?"

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Conclusion

Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge deliver a comprehensive and entertaining recap of The Real Housewives of Potomac season, offering listeners both laughs and thoughtful critiques. Their ability to balance humor with critical analysis makes "What A Sh*t Show" a must-listen for RHOP fans and reality TV enthusiasts alike.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Tamra [03:04]: "Well, it got better with the reunion trailer for Real Housewives of Potomac. Wow."
• Teddi [04:18]: "They have a little picture of Karen, like one of the photos they have at Traders."
• Tamra [14:21]: "Then we get to a headline. Karen Huger fires lawyers after guilty verdict. Asked to delay DUI sentencing for rehab. Huger."
• Teddi [32:58]: "But also, I want to know, like, did she fully drive through it or did she like just do a quick stop or."
• Tamra [41:27]: "I know. I miss Robin."

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Listen to "Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge" on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or your preferred podcast platform to stay updated with the latest in reality TV recaps and discussions.

Transcript

[Arturo Castro]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Arturo Castro]

Two T's in a pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Hi guys. Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yay. Hi. How are you? You are home.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm home. I'm happy to be home.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Are you?

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. It's so much better to just be home. And like, I think you know something? We forget about when you're, like, grieving or going through things in your marriage and your life, and it's just, like, the lack of sleep and.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, because you're stressed.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, my sleep has been so bad that, like, I seriously feel like I'm burning the candles at all the ends and. Yeah, so that's that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It gets better, I promise.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, it got better with the reunion trailer for Real Housewives of Potomac. Wow.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What an unexpected twist.

[Tamara Judge]

Hold on. Your boy, tj. Something must have been going down.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I don't want to blow it, but there was some post on Instagram that said.

[Tamara Judge]

What?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That he's been hired by her. And if that's what. I don't know if it's true, but if that comes out, that's not good. What do you think about that? Has any other housewife done that where they hired somebody to be, like, a boyfriend?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, they're saying, like, Kenya and Walter.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That happened with Walter.

[Tamara Judge]

It was someone that Kenya dated on Atlanta.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But, I mean, Kenya and. Well, I mean, I thought you meant, like, two separate people did it.

[Tamara Judge]

But that was her first season.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She was. Kenya was accused of it her first season. But was it true?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. Just like, I don't know if this is true. But, tj, no matter what situation, I know he won you over at that one lunch.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, he lost me at last. At the last. At the season.

[Tamara Judge]

At the dog shedding cleanup competition.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, God, we have so much to. So much to dig into.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, well, before we get into that, we're going to talk about the reunion trailer. It opens up on New York City on January 9th. Um, Andy says there's an elephant in the room they need to address. Karen is not with us, but she sends a message. They have a little picture of Karen, like one of the photos they have at Traders.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

There was at one point. It was on the floor, wasn't it?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I know. Ashley said, I'm showing my bunion off to Karen.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ew.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is that necessary? I'm sure Karen's already seen her bunion. A little bit more respect.

[Tamara Judge]

Listen, I would probably rather see Ashley's bunion than the inside of a jail cell.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, me, too.

[Tamara Judge]

Then Wendy says it all adds up, and she can confidently say, that is not my friend. The women are coming from Mia. Wendy says Mia's plan with ink backfired, so she dropped ink. Giselle says, let me pretend to drop.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ink, basically saying it was just, like, a lie. She was just pretending because this. Her storyline didn't come out Very well this year.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And then K says Mia is exploiting her family. And then Stacy says, you are a liar. How dare you. And then Wendy says, let's talk about Miami. But then Andy tells Mia. This is like back in the dressing room.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Andy tells Mia she's in a shame spiral. So I think he, you know, Mia's probably really going through it. And he's like, listen, I know you're in a shame spiral, but get out of here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Didn't she do this to herself?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I think we can all do shit to ourselves. It doesn't mean that we're lack of like, having human emotion when shit goes wrong.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You mean getting caught?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I. I don't know if it's getting caught, but I think she probably regrets some of the things she said about her kids.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Here. Let's start with. With this. You're on a reality show. Be real.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I think. I mean, if we're going to talk about real, I mean, she's probably being more real than Stacy. If Stacey has a rent a boyfriend.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, we're seeing cracks. And Stacy for sure after this episode.

[Tamara Judge]

Then Wendy says Karen comes here every single day and she gets drunk. Then Ashley says a journalist messaged her saying there was a person in Karen's car who fled. And Mia says it was her boyfriend.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ouch.

[Tamara Judge]

But that is an easy thing to find because remember when we were deep down the PK rabbit hole and he had gotten pulled over for the alleged dui? And Sutton tried to say that PK was not in the car alone, but you look at a police report and it says who's in the car.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, but they could have fled before the police got there.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I guess they could have, but do we.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And the only way that it could be leaked is if that person told somebody that told somebody.

[Tamara Judge]

But do we think that whoever Karen is dating can run fast enough to flee from the police?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They're in the goddamn woods hiding behind a tre me. It's not me, it's a tree.

[Tamara Judge]

Then Andy asked if Karen goes to jail, how she will do.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't think anybody, especially a woman, is going to do well in jail. And if she. I mean, they say two years possible. That's a long time.

[Tamara Judge]

That's a long time. But what about how Eddie.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Six weeks is a long time.

[Tamara Judge]

Is the only. Is the only husband that comes out for this reunion. Eddie. I'm like, Eddie, not you getting VIP this episode.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Eddie was a housewife showing up with his bag of goodies to give to Stacy.

[Arturo Castro]

Right.

[Tamara Judge]

But at the reunion.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Plug.

[Tamara Judge]

At the reunion, TJ's not there. And so Eddie FaceTimes him. And the women all yell, what? And Stacy says, it is a lie. TJ would never say that. But I'm like, if it's on a FaceTime, then he probably did say that, whatever that may be. And then Wendy says TJ said it on camera. And then the women chant, bring Eddie out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, so that's why they were chanting that. Because I'm like, why are they chanting that?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So let's get into the looks. All the looks are pretty similar.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They're very booby. It's a titty showing.

[Tamara Judge]

It's a big titty show. It's all, you know, white and silvery.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think they all look great.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, they all look great. A lot of them don't really look like themselves because they have such dramatic hair changes. It like, took me for a moment.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ashley, I couldn't even recognize in this picture. Giselle looks like Giselle. Well, they all look beautiful.

[Tamara Judge]

They look stunning.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Mia looks totally different.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, I know. Mia and Ashley are unrecognizable this year.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I need to know how Mia is holding that dress up.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I think Mia's. I don't think Mia's like me, where I'm like SpongeBob SquarePants. Just like a square human wearing a dress. Like, I think she has curves.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't have any curves. Curves either, but I kind of have boob envy. I'm not doing it. I won't do it. But every once in a while, I.

[Tamara Judge]

Think I need to point out the obvious. Tam. Mia, I believe, is, like, over 5, 10, so she can have those size boobs. If you were to have.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I wouldn't want that. Those size. I would just like a little perkiness up on top.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, you can be like the girl from Southern Charm and get a little fat sucked out of your ankle and zipped right into your titty. I'll go with you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I could probably do it out of my inner thighs. Some fat there for sure.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, let's. Let's figure that out. Let's do a pause.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Will you go with me?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I'm sure if they can suck some fat out of me or if.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They can wear some fat out of me.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, you know, whatever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Either way, I need some help. On your mind?

[Tamara Judge]

All directions.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Arturo Castro]

Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Roadhouse and so many commercials about back pain and Now I'm starting a podcast because honestly guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians to tell them a buck wild tale from across history and time. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zoe Chao.

[Tamara Judge]

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[Arturo Castro]

It's giving funny true crime. I love storytelling and I love you. So I can't wait. Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm so sick of hearing men talk about women's basketball.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

If only there were a professional WNBA player with her own podcast I could listen to.

[Tamara Judge]

Hey, this is Lexi Brown, WNBA player and professional yapper. And this is Mariah Rose.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You may know me from spilling the.

[Tamara Judge]

Tea on Hoops for hotties on TikTok. And we've got a new podcast, Full Circle. Every Wednesday, we're catching you up on what's going on in women's basketball, and not just in the wnba, but with Athletes Unlimited unrivaled and college basketball. We've got you with analysis, inside stories, and a little bit of tea. I know you guys have seen a lot of former and current basketball players telling their stories from their point of view, and I just think it's time for the girlies to tap in. We want to share all of the women's basketball stories that you won't see anywhere else. Tune into Full Circle, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio.

[Arturo Castro]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Arturo Castro]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's about learning through them and their new perspective. Join me on the Ghost Therapy podcast.

[Tamara Judge]

Whoa.

[Arturo Castro]

My lights in my living room just flickered. I'm a little nervous.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm excited. I'm excited nervous. You know, I'm a very spiritual person, so I'm like, I'm ready and open. That was amazing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I feel so grateful right now. I got to speak to my great grandmother, Abuela, and she gave me a lot of really good advice that I'm.

[Tamara Judge]

Gonna have to really think about.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wow.

[Arturo Castro]

Okay. That's crazy. Yes, that is accurate.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Tamara Judge]

Then we get to a headline. Karen Huger fires lawyers after guilty verdict. Asked to delay DUI sentencing for rehab. Huger.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you think that was strategic?

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I'm just curious what she thought was going to happen.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, she's trying to buy time. And I think, you know, you fire your attorney and then you have to ask for an extension because you have a new attorney that needs to get caught up so it's.

[Tamara Judge]

I can catch him up. I watch this season of Potomac. It will take me about 23 minutes and I'll give the updates.

[Arturo Castro]

Oh, my God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm sure we don't know everything.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. I'm sure what we don't know is worse.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, I know, right? It's probably just buying time, but.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, she did for her extension. It's goes till Valentine's Day. What a way to celebrate love than finding out if you are or not. Gone to the clinic.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wear red.

[Tamara Judge]

Where?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Bring some chocolates. Make some friends. Find a lover.

[Tamara Judge]

Sell some flowers. Lise, what are they called? Like the grams. Remember at school when we were younger, you could buy like a valentine.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Graham, you can buy grams or we Used to do, like, daffodil grams or something like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I don't know. All I know is I never got one of my kids Valentine's Day cards. Because the new form of Valentine's Day cards exchanges is you can't add candy to it. I'm like, then who the hell wants a valentine?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm surprised at this point. They're not digital.

[Tamara Judge]

I will make my life editor. I'm wearing it on my hand.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This is have candy. So they can just have a, like, you know, those. A card that says, happy Valentine's. Be mine. And then it's like, oh, my God, he loves me.

[Tamara Judge]

But then you give it. It's a rule that you have to give to everybody in your class. So it's like. It's a little bit different Valentine's these days. Yeah. This next one is. We're on to Salt Lake City. Lisa Barlow is clapping back at Bronwyn. This is from Cece Loves you. In a video taken of herself, Lisa says, it's super insidious when you go on podcast and you lie to the press and you lie to your friends and you tell them that you bought jewelry that you didn't buy. And then the jeweler who you met through me starts getting attacked because you're giving out her name and sending your bots and bitches to go attack her. That's pretty shitty. Listen, the one issue I have is Lisa brought up the jeweler's name, not Bronwyn. So we may be annoyed at Bronwyn for pretending that she could buy a $4 million necklace and then buying a cheaper one. But Lisa was the only person that used the name of the jeweler that said she didn't buy it. She's the one that. Over her friend, not Bronwyn, I mean. Yeah, I mean, Bronwyn, I guess did. If she didn't buy anything.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I mean, Andy's the one that brought it up first. Like, I thought, you're going to wear the $4 million neck. And then she just. I would have said the same thing. Like, I'm trying to let those things go, but injustice and lying on reality tv, like, within, you know, my cast, I guess, or whatever other cast. I can't tolerate that.

[Tamara Judge]

But she didn't need to say the jeweler by name, the Jew.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, well, they could have bleeped that out.

[Tamara Judge]

I know, but her doing that, it's like, of course that woman's gonna get hate now, because that's like. I mean, I know she's not a doctor She's a jeweler. But, like, you shouldn't be sharing that person's name on national television just to prove a point. I. I think that was crossing a line.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But didn't. Didn't Bronwan ask her who she talked to?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think so. I think she just offered up, hey, and I talked to, okay, blah, blah, blah. I don't need to repeat the girl's name.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, I'm surprised they didn't bleep it.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, even when we recapped that pod, we were like, we know someone who's gonna lose her job now for the jeweler, because that. Yeah, I mean, don't lie and say you got something you didn't. But, I mean, it's not like many people cared when Jenna Lyons did it with the Bentley or whatever it was.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, she admitted.

[Tamara Judge]

She admitted it four episodes later, at.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Least she admitted it.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Bronwyn said she got a smaller one, so we'll see. I couldn't afford a $4 million necklace.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm going to tell you, I wouldn't want one.

[Tamara Judge]

I'd lose it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't. I don't care about stuff like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Then Lisa says in the Daily Mail that she hopes which cast member she hopes doesn't return for season six. She told Daily Mail in a new interview that she's heard things but can't say for sure on what's going to happen next month. I mean, if they don't want me, I'm fine with that, too. She said, please, Lisa not buying that, but I feel like it's so divisive when you're around consummate lies and the consummate pileups. Like, no one would be on a show if it weren't for me. I helped bring the show to Utah. And instead of supporting me and being like, lisa is a good friend, She's a good ally. She does whatever I need to do when I need her to do it. She added, it gets old, you know, I'm exhausted by it. Lisa went on to say who she wouldn't ask back despite it not being her decision. I mean, I wouldn't have asked Whitney back last year or this year. She spelled. I mean, she's another one that her storyline the whole year was like, lie, lie, lie, and I don't give a shit about your business. She continued, I've always have had a soft spot for Whitney.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wait, I don't give a shit about your business, but Vita Tequila was on every episode.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, we don't give a shit about anyone's business.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

If I'm being clear, this whole article here does sit well with me. Nobody has to bow down to Lisa. I like Lisa, but nobody has to bow down to her because she started the show.

[Tamara Judge]

And like, don't say I don't care about being on the show and then give us a 43 reasons on why you should be you, why you are.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The show, why people should bow down to you.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So she wants Whitney gone.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Which I didn't. I mean, I liked Whitney towards the end of the season. I like Whitney in general. I like Whitney. Did I. When I try to think about going back in my head what Lisa Barlow's storyline was this year, it's as blank as what Whitney's was, in my opinion.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Not every single year you have something huge going on in your life.

[Arturo Castro]

Right.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So it differentiates between.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, it is huge. Bryn Whitfield steals carbon monoxide quote from the movie Luckiest Girl Alive this is from Bitches of Bravo. Bryn's text to the group seems to be a copy of the dialogue used in the film Luckiest Girl Alive, using the words someone who tried to blank with me once called me carbon monoxide, invisible, odorless, and sucks the very life out of you before you even have a chance to realize it. During a confrontational scene, the protagonist Annie, played by Mila Kunis, says, my anger is like carbon monoxide. It's odorless, tasteless, colorless, and completely toxic. The movie touches on systems sensitive subjects such as rape and gun violence. Bitches of Bravo captions the post brin as female fatale as she thinks. Everything about this is unoriginal and she's a pathological liar, fake even. Bryn Whitfield's psychological tactics are scripted off of a movie. Wtf? How embarrassing. She can't even come up with this dumbass quote herself.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We used to have a cast member that would quote things and use like canned one lines all the time.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, this wasn't even on air though. She just wrote it on a text message. Then they brought it to air. Look at me trying to see both sides of every situation today. I'm one for the people today, as you can tell by my wet hair and my second coffee. Then we get to Potomac. We're through the headlines here. Karen is picking out an outfit for Stacy's charity. Karen says she's supporting the cause but not walking. Karen says with her court case, she's already stressed and doesn't need more pain. Then Wendy calls Karen, inviting her to the White House taping this ends up backfiring after we find out what happens to Snapchat. Michonne.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

If Stacey and Karen weren't that close to begin with, why does she expect her to always defend her?

[Tamara Judge]

Because I think in Karen's mind, she got Stacy on the show.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She introduced her to the group. So Karen can't stand that Stacey is doing something with the dogs, so she has to come up with her own little rescue story to make this whole episode, she just kept trying to make herself relevant.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And I'm like, just walk in the damn show. It's for charity.

[Tamara Judge]

And also, like, of all the things you're stressed about walking a dog on a Runway in a broad dress, is that stressful? Well, Stacey tells AJ that she can't wait for him to meet a. For him to meet tj. All these Jays are really.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

And then AJ says he can. He can wait. And you know what?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I love him. I love him. Stacy has more chemistry with AJ than she does her boyfriend, Bess. Friend. Whatever he's called at this point. Tj.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, the fact that she has more chemistry with AJ and I'm 99% sure AJ doesn't like vaginas is a pretty good sign. Something tells me, though, that Stacy was not prepared for AJ to be as honest. Oh, right. But honestly, we needed it. Thank you, aj.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thank you. He said she was brainwashed. This is some Stepford white. He's a lot. He's AI. He ain't your type. He's a cornball. I mean, thank God for AJ saying what everybody is thinking except for Tam.

[Tamara Judge]

Last week, because, Tammy, you had me for a moment.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You had me for a moment with the tears. You really did.

[Tamara Judge]

It's me. Ashley and family celebrate her aunt's birthday. Ashley says she and Michael will be officially divorced next week. In a shocking turn of events, Ashley's kids are back on the countertop. I know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I thought the same thing.

[Tamara Judge]

I also. I know that sometimes I whip into song like I just did. But celebrating her aunt's birthday and then singing. Singing her song was like, I almost had to throw myself off a countertop.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I like when she goes. I do love Josh, but I like when she goes, it's mommy's co worker. And I'm like, that you call Babe? Yeah, it's just coworker Babe. Hey, Babe. Babe.

[Tamara Judge]

Do we have another pod after?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But congratulations to Ashley. I'm assuming she's a divorce by now, although her card at the end said she wasn't. Quite divorced yet?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But long time coming.

[Tamara Judge]

Long time coming. Then we get to Giselle and her daughters planting a tree for her father. Giselle got a plaque that says, merry Christmas. We miss you. And then Giselle gets emotional, thinking about how her father would be proud of them. This is the scene. I love Giselle.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This is a cute scene. Yeah, I know. I know. When they first start digging the ground so hard, and it's like the two inches she dug was not gonna cut. It was not going to cut it. And I'm like, just let your gardener take care of that. I mean, digging holes is non negotiable for me. It's like. Like, I won't. That's one thing I will not do. I do.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, they didn't.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'll do anything. The ground was hard.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm like, maybe they were on a route.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They probably were a lot of trees in that forest.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, then. But do you think that the guy that was with, allegedly with Karen during her DUI was hiding in that forest?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Probably. He could probably dig the hole.

[Tamara Judge]

He probably.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Don't you want to see Giselle get married?

[Tamara Judge]

No. I don't care. She seems happy. No. Then Wendy, her family, and Karen go to the White house for the Dr. Wendy Show. Wendy interviews the press secretary of the United States of America. Karen says she's honored. Wendy brought her along. And then Eddie says, Wendy has made so many strides in her career, and this is monumental.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Dr. Wendy at the White House. Do you think they'd ever have us at the White House, Teddy, doing a.

[Tamara Judge]

Podcast even if we had Dr. In front of our four years? Maybe we are not getting in the White House for a pod.

[Arturo Castro]

Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and narcos and Roadhouse and so many commercials about back pain. And now I'm starting a podcast because, honestly, guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week, I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians to tell them a buck wild tale from across history and time. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, Joseph Gordon Levitt and Zoe Chao.

[Tamara Judge]

Titanic, Charles Manson, Alcatraz, Assata Shakur, the sketchy guy named Steve.

[Arturo Castro]

It's giving funny true crime. I love storytelling and I love you. So I can't wait. Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm so sick of hearing men talk about women's basketball.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

If only there were a professional WNBA.

[Tamara Judge]

Player with her own podcast I could listen.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Listen to.

[Tamara Judge]

Hey, this is Lexi Brown, WNBA player and professional yapper. And this is Mariah Rose.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You may know me from spilling the.

[Tamara Judge]

Tea on Hoops for Hotties on Tick Tock.

[Arturo Castro]

And we've got a new podcast, Full Circle every Wednesday.

[Tamara Judge]

We're catching you up on what's going.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

On in women's basketball and not just.

[Tamara Judge]

In the wnba, but with Athletes Unlimited.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Unrivaled and college basketball.

[Tamara Judge]

We've got you with analysis, inside stories, and a little bit of tea. I know you guys have seen a lot of former and current basketball players telling their stories from their point of view, and I just think it's time for the girlies to tap in. We want to share all of the women's basketball stories that you won't see anywhere else. Tune in to Full Circle, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio.

[Arturo Castro]

App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Welcome. My name is Paola Pedrosa, a medium and the host of the Ghost Therapy.

[Arturo Castro]

Podcast, where it's not just about connecting with deceased loved ones. It's about learning through them and their new perspective.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Join me on the Ghost Therapy podcast.

[Tamara Judge]

Whoa.

[Arturo Castro]

My lights in my living room just flickered. I'm a little nervous.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm excited. I'm excited, nervous. You know, I'm very spiritual person, so I'm like, I'm ready and open. That was amazing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I feel so grateful right now. I got to speak to my great grandmother Abuela, and she gave me a lot of really good advice that I'm.

[Tamara Judge]

Gonna have to really think about.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wow.

[Arturo Castro]

Okay. That's crazy. Yes, that is accurate.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Listen to the Ghost Therapy podcast as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Arturo Castro]

Ever wonder what it's like to be on the phone with an NFL general manager as you finalize the biggest contract in NFL history? I'm A.J. stephens, Vice President of client strategy at Athletes Verse, where we've negotiated $1.4 billion in current NFL quarterback contracts? Introducing the athlete's first family podcast, the Quarterback Series, along with my co host Brian Murphy, athlete's first CEO. We're pulling back the curtain on how these historic deals come together. You'll hear directly from the agents who shaped the NFL's financial landscape, the ones who negotiated Justin Herbert's extension into Sean Watson's fully guaranteed contract that sent shockwaves through the league. This isn't just about the numbers, though. It's about the untold stories behind these massive negotiations and the relationships the NFL superstars like Dak Prescott, Tua Tungavaloa and Jordan Love have with their agents at Athletes First. For the first time ever, the agents who orchestrate these deals are sharing the details of the negotiations and everything that led up to their clients signing on the dotted line. Listen to the Athletes First Family podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But did you notice how Karen needed to one up and talk about how she gives back? It's getting annoying and it gets worse throughout the episode.

[Tamara Judge]

She's always but also I I want to know, like Wendy, what's going on with your other friendships that you thought Karen would be the best option of a support group? Like, at least if you wanted a cheerleader, you should have invited Stacey.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And then all the women arrive at Stacey's Strut for Strays event. Stacy asks Karen why they have a problem, and Karen says she's never seen Stacey stick up for her. Stacy says she stood up for Karen when Mia called her a drunk and a cheater, which she did. We got a nice flashback. Then Karen tells Stacey her backstabbing tendencies are her personality. And then Stacy says Karen has a problem, but she took me aside over hers. Then Karen tells Stacey she has never brought up the accusations against her, and Stacy says she's never been to court. Karen says Stacy has driven through the same stop sign three times. I thought Stacy handled Karen pretty well, and I don't think the grande dame was ready for that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I don't think so either. Stacey drove through the stop signs three times and she's making it out like it's just as bad as what she did.

[Tamara Judge]

But also, I want to know, like, did she fully drive through it or did she like just do a quick stop or. And was she drinking allegedly when she went through the stop signs? Or is it like one of those?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And how does Karen know this? Like, she dig up like how many tickets she had? Did Stacy get tickets for this or.

[Tamara Judge]

Was it like in one of those zones where nobody ever is in the middle of Potomac and like she just, you know, knows that nobody's ever there?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So what are your thoughts on Karen bringing this Scarecrow, witch, whatever prop she brought to her confessional.

[Tamara Judge]

You know how I feel about props in general. You know, I don't mind when somebody slurps on their straw or like, I know you do, but Stacy is confusing me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She acts all naive and innocent and, like, very Christian woman. And then she has, like, half naked men at her event. There was no need for those half naked men.

[Tamara Judge]

I think that Stacy is trying to throw it all against, like, you know, a Velcro wall and seeing what sticks.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And Karen telling her. What'd she say to her? Something like, you're raggedy ass. And she's like, I'm raggedy? And she's like, yeah, your clothes are. And I'm like, I didn't notice. I thought Stacey dressed fine.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Then Kiarna says she and Greg are taking some personal space. And then Kiarna says that she can't even agree to disagree, so they're taking a step back. I feel like we knew this was going to happen.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I think that she deserves somebody better. It just.

[Tamara Judge]

She's kind of grown on me. I like her.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I like her.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm happy for her to be back next year.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I love her voice.

[Tamara Judge]

I do, too.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's so sweet and soothing.

[Tamara Judge]

Then don't you worry. Stacey's trying to get everybody organized to walk this thing. You know, Giselle comes in, and she's wearing the dress that allegedly Stacy didn't want anyone to wear because she didn't want anyone to look better than her. And then Ashley tells Giselle that Stacy told her that Karen. Karen told her to avoid Wendy like the plague. Giselle and Ashley confront Karen. The Giselle says anytime a new person joins the group, Karen tries to skew them in a way that's great for herself. Giselle asked Stacy if it's true, and Stacy says Karen said Mia is not Potomac and that Wendy is self absorbed. There's a moment here where, like, the women aren't fully believing Stacy, but then Stacy throws in that they went to the. What's the place called?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, the Tally Hut.

[Tamara Judge]

Tally Ho.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I believe Stacey. I believe stacey. Karen said 100%. Karen's face just fell like, oh, my God, she's outing me. And another thing is, it's like when you know there's a new cast member coming on, you are. It's frowned upon to reach out to them, take them aside, and try to.

[Tamara Judge]

Either brainwash them or form your same opinions. It doesn't make for a good show if you go in trying.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But do you think that Stacy should have brought this earlier in the season.

[Tamara Judge]

I think Stacy was kind of feeling the waters. And then once she realized that I think what Aaron pissed her off by not walking in this event, then she was like, you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah. I didn't have your back. Now I really don't have your back because you're full of it. Then Wendy tells Karen she wants her to ride for her the same way Wendy does for Karen. And then Stacy says she has held on to what Karen said about everyone for months. I don't mind. You know, one of the questions is, do we mind that Stacy brought this out? I don't. I think Stacy had all the rights to bring it out because.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I know. I'm glad she did. It was about time that she kind of got in the mix of things. But Stacy's like, I've held off saying that. You told me about everyone. And Giselle's all, run it all, baby, run it all.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. Giselle was amazing.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And Karen did the worst acting. She was denying it. And then she's like, oh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's right. As soon as she did it, Tally ho. Or her favorite restaurant. The girls are like, clock.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean it. But Karen did this about something else. Oh, the Ozempic. Remember when she was like, no, no, I'm not.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm on. Blah, blah. And then they're like, very much in denial of the truth.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And then I think there's more to Stacey, though. I really do. Yeah, she's one of those housewives that comes on and acts all sweet and innocent.

[Tamara Judge]

Anyone that sweet's got a real. Yeah, they're on their side. But then the women walk the Runway with the dogs, which is complete chaos. Wendy adopts a puppy she's walking with. You can tell Eddie is less than thrilled.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That dog was so cute. I would have adopted it.

[Tamara Judge]

Of course you would. If it looks like your dog.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I know I want another one.

[Tamara Judge]

Then a bunch of fog machines go off, scaring the dogs. The dogs start pooping on the floor, and Karen throws up. Allegedly.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Don't you. I didn't see anything come out of her mouth. But don't you think that again, is a little dramatic? It's dog poop. Like, in an adult room. Like, come on.

[Tamara Judge]

I have a question. Why does poop need to have a blurred out screen?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, I was like, we're not looking at a penis here. We're looking at dog poop.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

All I don't know question. That's a. But, like, everybody's Screaming like they. I mean, almost everybody there has a dog. So is dog shit the worst thing in the world?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't want someone.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't want them shitting on me. But Karen, overly dramatically acting like she's throwing up. I'm like, oh, come on.

[Tamara Judge]

And do you think that Stacy just told Giselle that that dress was one she didn't want anyone to wear because they would look so good in it just to sabotage Giselle and have her wearing it because she knew she was going to go out and buy it?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I mean, kudos to Giselle for doing that. She's like, I had to go back and buy it. I don't know why, but I'm like.

[Tamara Judge]

Did you buy it though, or did that lady just let you have it?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay, now, Lisa, I don't know, but it looked great. But I thought maybe Stacy was going to wear it. That's why she didn't want anybody else in it.

[Tamara Judge]

No, she wasn't. Then we get to the closing credits. Kiara and Greg tried moving into their new home together, but Kay moved out soon after. K stands by her girl Math and still expects a ring in early 2025.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Now, so Ashley is still casually dating Josh, but her priorities are healing and thriving as an almost single woman and drag king.

[Tamara Judge]

Healing and thriving.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You sound better than she.

[Tamara Judge]

Giselle is now officially empty nester. She's rekindled things with the guy she went on that speed dating with. Yeah, and she's open to him taking a dip in her love lagoon. Okay, I don't want my love thing to be called a lagoon.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Lagoon. No, no.

[Tamara Judge]

Aren't those dirty?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't know. And Wendy has new position teaching a class on reality TV at Wesleyan University. She is enjoying being self absorbed in her own life.

[Tamara Judge]

Great. Stacy's in the final stage of her divorce. With that burden almost lifted, she is looking forward to a very unstiff 2025. Believe it when I see it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Stacey, Mia and Gordon spent New Year's Eve together with her kids. She and Ink broke up a month prior. But as the saying goes, Ink is never gone for good. This was interesting that they did this. How? They came back five months later. The morning of Karen's trial. So 12 hours later, the jury reached a verdict. On December 19, 2024, Karen was found guilty of a DUI and other charges, including negligent driving. After Karen's verdict was reached, police body cam footage from the night of the arrest was released to the public. Her sentencing is scheduled for February 2025. She faces up to two years in prison. Now, it was supposed to be in January, but she got an extension. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

To Valentine's Day.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. So we have a few fan thoughts. Glad Stacy stood her ground. Stacy. Stirring the pot is unnecessary, dog. Literally. Oh, bring Robin back. Yes, bring Robin back.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. I miss Robin.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I miss her. I love it. Can't wait for the reunion. Now, is the reunion a three parter?

[Tamara Judge]

It's three.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's three. Get that money.

[Tamara Judge]

The twat seat is about to come out with Jason. Captain Jason. So make sure you guys tune into that. We also are going to be podcasting from New Orleans at the super bowl, so we're going to get real time.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We're kind of a big deal. Teddy Joe, we're a big deal.

[Tamara Judge]

Tammy sue, we made it. We may even just tell ourselves we're big deals, but, you know, at least. At least we can say that to each other. But, yeah, we'll have plenty of episodes this week, so make sure you guys keep tuning in.

[Arturo Castro]

Hi, I'm Arturo Castro, and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and narcos and Roadhouse. And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly, guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history. Each week, I'll be sitting down with some of the most hilarious actors and writers and comedians. People like Ed Helms, Diane Guerrero, and Joseph Gordon Levitt. I love storytelling and I love you, so I can't wait. Listen and subscribe to Greatest escapes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jon Stewart is back in the host chair at the Daily show, which means he's also back in our ears on the Daily Show Ears Edition podcast. Join late night legend Jon Stewart and the best news team for today's biggest headlines, exclusive extended interviews and more. Now, this is the second term we can all get behind. Listen to the Daily Show Ears edition on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Tomer Coyne, LinkedIn's chief product officer. If you're just as curious as I am about the way things are built, then tune into my podcast building One. I speak with some of the best product builders out there. I've always been inspired by frustration.

[Tamara Judge]

It came back to my own personal pain point.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

So we had to go out to farmers and convince them.

[Arturo Castro]

Following that, curiosity is a superpower. You have to be obsessed with the human condition. Listen to Building One on the iHeartRadio app, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. Did you know that 70% of people get hired at companies where they already have a connection? I'm Andrew Seamus, LinkedIn's editor at large for jobs and career development, and on my podcast, Get Hired, I bring you all the information you need to, well, get Hired. Landing a job may be tough, but Get Hired is here for you every step of the way, with advice on resumes, networking, negotiation, and so much more. Listen to Get Hired with Andrew seaman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you like to listen.