When One Door Closes, Janet Will Tell You (The Valley Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge Episode: When One Door Closes, Janet Will Tell You (The Valley Recap)
Release Date: May 28, 2025
Host/Authors: Tamra Judge and Teddi Mellencamp
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In this episode of Two Ts In A Pod, hosts Tamra Judge and Teddi Mellencamp delve into the latest happenings of "The Valley," providing their unique perspectives and insights on the ongoing drama and relationships within the show. Skipping the various advertisements and introductory segments, the focus remains squarely on the hosts' engaging discussion and analysis.

Personal Updates and Initial Talk

The episode begins with the hosts sharing brief personal updates, setting a relatable tone before diving into the main content.

Tamra Judge (03:07): "I'm going to the happiest place on earth today. Disneyland."
Teddi Mellencamp (03:15): "Oh, get out."

Recap of "The Valley" Episode

Jax's Rehab and Relationship Struggles

A significant portion of the discussion centers around Jax's time in rehab and the ensuing impact on his relationships, particularly with Brittany.

Tamra Judge (16:08): "After 17 days in rehab, he's going to see his son. He starts getting emotional in his video and says his experience at the treatment center has been eye-opening."
Teddi Mellencamp (16:35): "I do not feel bad for him. I just hope he does the right thing."

The hosts express skepticism about Jax's commitment to changing, highlighting his decision to move next to Tom Schwartz, which contradicts typical rehab advice to avoid triggering environments.

Tamra Judge (16:09): "He starts getting emotional... but I'm just not there yet."
Teddi Mellencamp (17:01): "He shouldn't have to be casting on Traders so he can actually go to a real rehab."

Brittany's Financial Concerns

Brittany's financial woes due to Jax's unpaid mortgage are another focal point.

Tamra Judge (39:33): "Brittany just found out that Jax hasn't been paying their mortgage since May... $42,000 owed."
Teddi Mellencamp (39:43): "Where does he get it? That's a lot of money."

The hosts discuss Brittany's frustration and suggest practical solutions like selling the house and finalizing the divorce to alleviate financial stress.

Danny and Jasmine's Interactions

The interaction between Danny and Jasmine, particularly regarding past behavior and apologies, is dissected.

Tamra Judge (08:25): "Jason was bugging me so bad in the situation because he was acting like a little bitch, sticking up for his wife."
Teddi Mellencamp (10:04): "We're still talking about Jasmine... you either move on or you don't."

They debate the sincerity of Danny's apology and whether the lingering issues are being addressed effectively.

Jason and Kristen's Marriage Dynamics

The dynamics between Jason and Kristen, especially concerning Jason's habit of removing his wedding ring, are also explored.

Tamra Judge (22:31): "Kristen says Jason needs to keep his wedding ring on all the time."
Teddi Mellencamp (23:02): "A lot of people don't always wear their wedding ring because it's just not always... I don't like things on me."

Tamra and Teddi recount a similar incident from their own lives to illustrate their points about visibility of marital symbols and trust.

Notable Quotes

• Tamra Judge (05:02): "They always have to put your age. Why do they always have?"
• Teddi Mellencamp (21:44): "That was good. He accepted his fate. He said he was sorry. He listened to her feelings after the apology."
• Tamra Judge (17:38): "Block him. You can't get out. He can't get to you."

Fan Reactions and Final Thoughts

The hosts address fan comments and wrap up their thoughts on the episode's events, expressing anticipation for future developments.

Tamra Judge (43:27): "Do you think it's difficult for them as cast that was on a show popular for over a decade now?"
Teddi Mellencamp (43:44): "I think it's a very, very good [move to bring back familiar faces]."

They conclude with reflections on the importance of familiar faces in reality TV and express excitement for the next episode set in Hawaii.

Tamra Judge (44:28): "Thank you for tuning in and yeah, and we'll see you next week in Hawaii."
Teddi Mellencamp (43:35): "Love it."

Conclusion

Two Ts In A Pod offers a candid and thorough recap of "The Valley," blending personal anecdotes with sharp analysis of the show's drama. Tamra and Teddi's chemistry and honest opinions provide listeners with both entertainment and insightful commentary, making it a valuable listen for fans of the show and those interested in reality TV dynamics.

Transcript

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Two teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Hey, guys. Welcome back to another episode of two T's in a Pod. Today we are going to be recapping the Valley. How are you, Dolores?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm good. How are you?

[Tamara Judge]

I'm good. I'm going to the happiest place on earth today. Disneyland.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, get out.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I feel so bad. I mean, my daughter's 19 and I still feel bad when I have to go away for a weekend or in this month of where we may.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I've been like, today's May 28th. It's Frank Tanya's birthday. Happy birthday.

[Tamara Judge]

I, you know, cast trip. Then I got home, I went to New York, and then you haven't been there. Then I went.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You have not been.

[Tamara Judge]

I have not been home the month of May.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So every child needs some attention.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes. So Memorial Day, when we got back from Napa, we went to lunch and went shopping. And then yesterday we went, got our nails done and then.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She's nice.

[Tamara Judge]

Yesterday, mom, you know, you said, you want to go Disneyland soon? We always go one once or twice a year. And I said, yeah. She goes, can we go on Wednesday? I'm like, sure, let's go. Do you want to invite your brother? No, Come on. No, he can go next time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, she just wants you to herself. We always want our mom to ourselves.

[Tamara Judge]

So before we get into the Valley, did you. There's a couple things I want to talk about. Did you see that Brittany, Jax's ex, has a new love interest?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I didn't.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So next victim.

[Tamara Judge]

His name, He's a musician. Grammy award winning musician. Bill Gittins, I believe is how you pronounce it. So I went down the rabbit hole, I looked him up. He's award winning musician. He's got a beautiful voice. He is a beautiful man. Beautiful. So very happy. She is 36 and has been seen with him. I don't know why an article is they always have to put your age. Why do they always have.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I'm still waiting for Angela Oakley's age to be in an article, so.

[Tamara Judge]

I was never gonna pop up. It's never gonna pop up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know why. I don't know why they do that. I guess when you're 36, it doesn't really matter if they put your age, but really excited for her. I hope that whatever it is gets her through what she needs to go through right now.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, this will get her through it, trust me. Google.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

What is it the saying to get over somebody, get under them, get underneath.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So she was on Lala's podcast recently and she spoke about a new romantic interest.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, Brittany. Brittany, you're vulnerable right now. I don't care how cute he is or how good his voice is, please listen to me. Just keep your head on straight.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So happy for her. And then I don't know about you, but did you wake up this morning wanting to see the Chrisleys walking out of jail? I know this isn't Bravo related, but Trump Grant kind of is because they were full pardon. Wow. Todd and Julie, after two years of being.

[Justin Richmond]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

They were looking at some heavy time. And what did you think about the.

[Tamara Judge]

Time that they got for the punishment they got for what they did? 12 years and seven years.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know a lot about the case.

[Tamara Judge]

Tamara, we need Emily and Shane to get on it.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah. I need to know more about the case.

[Tamara Judge]

So I'm waiting to see those pictures. You know there's gonna be pictures of them coming out just like there was of Teresa.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I wish them the best, that's all.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so let's get on to the Valley. Episode 7. Now Jasmine is driving with her girlfriend Melissa to pick up Zach from lax. Jasmine says she's still struggling by Danny and what went down? And I'm like, come on. She thinks the apology from the white party wasn't sincere.

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[Tamara Judge]

Later on she tries to explain and he's very open.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Listen. He had the patience. He did him and Nia had the patience to hear out her feelings and hopefully put it to bed.

[Tamara Judge]

I just, that whole scene was Zach talking about his on and off again boyfriend Benji. I just. Zero interest. Yeah, I'm sorry, zero interest. Nia, Michelle are with the kids at a play date. Nia asked what happened at the dinner. After she left, we get a flashback to Jasmine ranting about Danny's behavior. Nia says Danny claimed to have apologized from the bottom of his heart at the white party. But the conversation while playing at the sand table. Michelle talks about her own issues with Jesse. Apparently is this is where I'm really. Apparently Isabella told her that if she wants to marry Aaron, she should. Now she's taken advice from a four year old which why would she even be having conversations with her daughter about that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They're putting a lot on Isabella. Yeah, I feel like.

[Tamara Judge]

And Michelle admits she wants to get married again and she hope it's to Aaron, but Aaron was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Aaron was ready to fly the coop last episode.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's like, I don't really want to deal with this and blah, blah, blah. And, you know, you only have to say that to me once.

[Tamara Judge]

Bye. See ya. Then don't exactly, you know what you're signing up for. If you can't handle it, then don't see.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Then don't tell me about it. Just go.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, now they have moved in together.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And Aaron and Michelle have moved in.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I heard. So allegedly.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So then Isabelle is around Aaron a lot.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Let's see what happens. But Jason, Luke and Danny are getting burgers. This scene here, I mean, Jason. Jason has a bit of an intervention with Danny, claiming he made Janet uncomfortable at the pantry. I mean, Jason sticking up for his wife.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Here's the thing. They did show it. He didn't have to shut the door.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I mean, he says that he walks in, Danny's in confessional. He says he walks in, grabs a white claw. Now wouldn't that be a warm white claw? Or is there maybe a refrigerator in the pan? I'm not quite sure, honestly.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I honestly don't give a. I know.

[Tamara Judge]

It's like they're like beating a dead horse at this point about this whole pantry thing. And if he was really hiding, taking a swig out of the tequila bottle, why would he do it in front of Janet? I mean, we're not on the show.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Of people that don't drink that he has to be hiding in a closet to drink.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, every time. Britney.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't think he had. I don't think he had. I really don't.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't think so either. But these. This is a group of people that. That drink a lot.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like, is always like, let's hide it, I think, you know.

[Tamara Judge]

But I don't know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Have we. I don't think he needed to go in there and shut the door, though. You know, you're in there with Janet who's going to make a thing about everything you do.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I'm saying. But then Jason was bugging me so bad in the situation because of the fact, like, he was acting like a little bitch, like, getting involved in sticking up for his wife and all. I'm like, dude, what are you doing?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But let me ask you something. He was sticking up before his wife. For what reason? Because someone shut the door and took a swig of tequila.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I don't know if he was sticking up for her or just being her mouthpiece. And she has it out for him. It's just.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Why does Janet have it out for him? There seems to be a thing where they, they're like, well, Janet, of course she was going to make a big.

[Tamara Judge]

Deal about it, right? I just, the whole scene was, there's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

A lot of, there's a lot of dragged out storylines here. And I'm sorry, guys. It's the truth. It is. We're still talking about Jasmine, who. We already spoke about this all season. I understand that was rude and that was wrong and he apologized. So you either move on or you don't. Or don't accept the apology and say, listen, just stay away from me and don't ever bother me again. But you're. You know that.

[Tamara Judge]

So.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

But we're still talking about this. And then we're going to now talk about the. The swig of tequila behind the pantry.

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[Tamara Judge]

Well, we do get some new new dirt in the show. When Jax comes back to record a video while he's in treatment, he's wearing a shirt that says tired dad. And I. What is this? You don't even have your kid, like, you're in treatment. Why are you wearing the shirt? So I googled it to see, like, is this, like, a cool brand or something?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, good, I'm glad you googled it.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. And it was. You know how I am. And I. All I can find was a shirt on Etsy that said tired dad. So I was like, tired from what? Tired from what? Right? So after 17 days in rehab, he's going to see his son. He starts getting emotional in his video and says his experience at the treatment center has been eye opening. I really want to feel bad for him, but I'm just not there yet.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I do not feel bad for him. No, I don't. But I just hope he does the right thing. And I'm not so sure that he is, because now he's getting out of rehab and he's getting an apartment next to Tom Schwartz. And, you know, the first thing they teach you in rehab is people, places, things you need to remove yourself from.

[Tamara Judge]

Right. And he's like, literally telling Britney that he wants to work on their relationship, and then he gets a house next to Schwartz where, you know, that's going to be a party house. I just don't think that's the best.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Always in the middle of everything, and he seems to be the most calm, but he's always in the middle of.

[Tamara Judge]

He. I think he. He's a little bit of a voice of reason. A little bit.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah. Yeah. He should have told him, don't come by me.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

A real friend at this point with some common sense would say, jax, you don't belong here.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, he should have talked to his wife first. You know, he should have had some communication there with her.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, yeah, that's what I was saying. I don't buy any of this. I'm sorry.

[Tamara Judge]

And then be like, hey, listen, you know, I want to make plans when I get out, and I want to talk to you about it. But don't say you want to work on a relationship and then go move next to, you know, frat boy Ali.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

After he's calling her names, rage texting her while she's out. I mean, no, no, he shouldn't even have his damn phone right?

[Tamara Judge]

So at Brittany's rental house, she's with her mom sitting up for the shark party. Luke and Kristen come over. Britney tells them that Cruz got to see Jax. After 30 minutes to them being together, Britney showed up so Jax could talk to the therapist together. And things didn't go well. So Brittany's like, she's.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

There's no hope.

[Tamara Judge]

There's. There's no hope. Yep. Somehow he got into the house without her knowing and took off the covers to the security camera he put up in the first place. So do you have security cameras inside your house? You probably do because. Oh yeah, you're within a. Somebody that has a high tech house.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, exactly. It's a smart house. So, yeah, we have all that.

[Tamara Judge]

So he has taped cards over in the past. He came in, he removed them, and it was. He's. So he can spy on Brittany while he spends the rest of his 15 days in rehab, I would imagine.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I'm sorry, I don't know. Is he in McDonald's or rehab? Why does he have access to his phone? I could be texting his drug dealer. He could be texting his friends. That's a bullshit ass rehab.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you know what have been great rehab for him is to cast him on Traders because you can't drink. Really, you can't. You don't have your phone. You're locked in a room. Like, there you go. Nobody. You can't do anything.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He shouldn't have to be casting on traitors.

[Tamara Judge]

I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No, I know that. But like, like this is what we're resorting to at this point, Tamara, for this guy to be like humbled. Like, cast him on Traders so he can actually go to a real rehab.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. So Britney's had it. She says she wishes Jax was in jail so she didn't have to deal with him. And I. I get that.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, that would be a real. Another one. That would be an actual rehab for him.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I understand they have a kid together, but Britney also needs to take some responsibility and stop engaging in these conversations with him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Block them.

[Tamara Judge]

Block him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You can't get out. He can't get to you.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Are you afraid of him? Is he violent? Because sometimes when you block a guy, they get violent. They come after you. So you're Afraid to block him. And I understand that. But instead she's like letting him do this. If she wants any new relationship to work. And take it from Michelle, you know, cut the shit with the fighting. Stop making fighting with your ex a part of your relationship. New relationship.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so to get this straight, she has a rental in the house that they bought together in the valley. That was where he was staying. Right. So he took the camera, he took the papers off the cameras in hopes that he's going to catch her coming in there and doing something. It's just so weird. Anyways, let's move on. So Danny takes Jasmine and Melissa to a brewery. He only orders water. Smart move. Jasmine explains she got triggered by Danny's actions because this is something that happened to. Happens to her all the time. Men don't take. Her relationship with Melissa's serious.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I understand what she's saying, but.

[Tamara Judge]

But I do too. I understand that. But do you think that it was that deep with Danny? You know, you're in a friend group.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't know what he. He patted her around the butt or something. Anyway, I think I don't want to hear something like that ever again.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, I will give him props because he did sit, he did listen, he did educate himself and he did apologize and he didn't try to push back in any way.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So lovely.

[Tamara Judge]

Yes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That was good. He was.

[Tamara Judge]

That was good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He accepted his fate. He said he was sorry. He said he was wrong. He listened to her feelings after the apology. So I think we should be good now.

[Tamara Judge]

So Kristen, Luke and Jesse are grabbing lunch. They catch Jesse up on all the drama surrounding Danny and Kristen says Jason is on her shit list. So she's pissed off about Jason going off on Danny. Kristen says Jason needs to keep his wedding ring on all the time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Kristen doesn't like him right now. She looks really pretty by the way.

[Tamara Judge]

She look great. She look great. So Kristen's like Jason needs to keep his wedding ring on when he goes out. So evidently she's claiming that when he goes out he takes his wedding ring off and guess puts in his pocket. I don't know. That would not be cool.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Had been a rumor, something that happened two years ago.

[Tamara Judge]

Two years ago. Now what do you think about a man, married man, that doesn't always wear his wedding ring?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think a lot of people don't always wear their wedding ring because it's just not, you know, always like. So I don't wear rings all the time. I don't wear my jewelry. It gets in the way Like, I don't like things on me.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And I. Oh, God. I remember a time where we were. Eddie and I were on Watch what Happens Live. We were in New York, obviously, getting ready at the hotel. We were rushed out, and we were on it together. This is right after we got married in. And doctor. What's that? Doctor famous doctor.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

That's on Dr. Phil.

[Tamara Judge]

No, the other one. That's Drew. Dr. Drew.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

And he made a comment because Eddie didn't have his wedding ring on, and he left it. Yeah, he made. He left it. Yeah, he made, like, a negative comment. Like, that says a lot.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He left it on the sink like a normal. I didn't know he was. Was a guy.

[Tamara Judge]

And I'm like, okay, let's not go there, but. Oh, whatever you think. In Jesse's confessional, he said the rumor was completely stupid. Personally, he would take his wedding ring off to go to the gym in the grocery store. Why the grocery store? That right there.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, that's the biggest pickup joint ever.

[Tamara Judge]

He should have kept that out. The gym, I get it, because you're picking up weights, but the grocery store? See?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Say less.

[Tamara Judge]

Say less. Luke is getting so annoyed that Kristen brought up unnecessary drama. I mean, I think it's pretty much every husband's reaction to his wife gossiping like, oh, God, really? Now this is gonna cause a problem.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I love that Luke was mad about it.

[Tamara Judge]

Why are we having a shark party?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Another kid party? I don't know.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, I thought for a second maybe it was her son's birthday, but I'm like, a shark party. So everybody shows up to Brittany's rental house. Oh, because it's Britney's favorite animal. Is a shark an animal? A mammal? I don't know, but it's. So why would a shark be somebody's favorite? Let's call it a fish.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It was rough. This was a rough episode. I'm sorry.

[Tamara Judge]

This. What I'm telling you right now, this was a very.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

She has a lot of theme parties.

[Tamara Judge]

This was a very for everyone.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

If. If she ever. If I was at her house the week before for the cowgirl party or cowboy party, whatever it was. And then she sent me an invitation for the shark party. I would definitely be busy that week. I.

[Tamara Judge]

This. You're right. This episode was a lot. I mean, not in a good way. It was like. It was a little bit of a struggle to get through for me.

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[Tamara Judge]

Now everybody's showing up to the shark party and Sheena, Brock and Lala. I got a little confused when I saw.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I didn't see Brock.

[Tamara Judge]

I barely. He had one speaking part and I.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Want to see him with a shark fin on.

[Tamara Judge]

I know bro.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It would be like a Can you.

[Tamara Judge]

Throw me a beer? That was his.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He would be like the magalodon shark tooth necklace guy.

[Tamara Judge]

So at first I thought when I saw Lala, I'm like, oh my God, there's Nia. She's pregnant. And they were hiding it the whole time. And it was Lala.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, okay. I wouldn't want to. I wouldn't be upset if I was mistaken for Lala. I think she's so pretty.

[Tamara Judge]

She's so pretty. So pretty. Did you like seeing the or pump cast on the Valley?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I always like seeing them on the Valley. It's not the first time. They were at the last party.

[Tamara Judge]

Do you think it's difficult for them as as cast that was on a show popular show for over a decade and now they're just popping in. Do you think that would be a hard pill to swallow? Are they like, you know what we're going to go on and we know next season we're going to be full time.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I think that when you're not filming, any chance to film do it is a chance you have to do it. You know, it's all about, if it.

[Tamara Judge]

Makes sense, do it right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's all about staying on tv. Like Lala got her scene. Now that could have, you know, Shay and Lala, I mean, Sheena was standing there in Lala and they told off Jesse and you know, they got. They got a scene and it was nice to see them, actually. They brought a lot to the show and that's good for Bravo to see Bring them back.

[Tamara Judge]

I like seeing familiar faces.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Me too. I think it's a very, very good.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, very smart move for them to film because this is, you know, a new up and coming show and I do believe that they'll be on it full time eventually. We. I think we need them.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

We do.

[Tamara Judge]

We absolutely need that group. So then at the party, well, how.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Many people could they have on? They'd have to get rid of some people.

[Tamara Judge]

I think they could.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm just saying. So at the party, Jason approaches Danny to apologize for his behavior at lunch. Jason gets emotional and he's talked when he's talking to him. But Danny, he does accept his apology and they end on. Good.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Danny was very nice about it.

[Tamara Judge]

I've always seen Danny pretty nice. Like, that's why I'm like, am I missing something? Is he like this crazy drunk that only the cast knows about? And he's, you know, some people on, on camera are like prim and proper and nothing like they are on in real life. So I'm like, both ways.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They could be bad on camera and good in real life. Like.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, exactly like Tamara Judge. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know, sometimes everyone says she's nothing like she is. I know. She's so nice.

[Tamara Judge]

You know why? Because. Because I would drink too much on camera and I'm not a good drinker. So I have learned that I should not do that because I get nervous. People don't understand.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, she's so outgoing. I'm like, no, I'm really not. You know, I just. I get my camera balls and I drink and then I go overboard, but. Which sometimes will make good tv. But then I have to put up with the junior snatch up.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So it make a TB list. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But Jason, knowing He messed up being Janet's mouthpiece by going after Danny. Made me like him again. Like, he admitted, like, what I did was wrong. He's like, fuck, I'm sorry I wasn't a bro. So I'm wondering if his wife is like, really? Why'd you do that? You didn't stick to the script?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. Well, listen, I mean, it was a little redeeming for me to see. I'm glad that he did it. It was the right move.

[Tamara Judge]

He should have done that. Oh, absolutely. I think afterwards he's like. So Lala calls Jesse out on his unacceptable behavior towards Michelle. How did you feel about Lala getting involved in this? Because she's like. She goes after him and then she says, I have zero interest in this conversation, but she's the one.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, we know Lala to be that girl, right? She went hard on Tom Sandoval. She went after Rachel. She's the one who's gonna speak her mind, go after the guy and, you know, whoever and say what she has to say. Well, you know, it's not like something new that we've seen something out of character for her.

[Tamara Judge]

No. So Lala and Sheena are very close to Michelle, and I think that they know more information than the rest of us do. But he did admit to calling her names and in a group chat and to her face said it was a moment of weakness. I mean, it wasn't. I'm not sticking up by any means. I don't like it. I don't like it. It's. It's. It. I don't know if it was something that she should get involved in, but it was, you know, it spiced up the show a little bit.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Does she do it off camera too?

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. I really don't know. Like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like if I got in a fight, like, if something happened with me and Paul, and me and Lala were really close, is she gonna see Paul out and tell him off? I kind of feel like she would.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I think she would. I know.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, I want to give it to her. I. I know Sheena always, you know, fights for what's the right thing, and Lala says it. I. I mean, I just think that they really are true to who they are in real person.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, Sheena.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And I'm friends with Sheena too.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I mean, I appreciate it. Sheena laid into me a little bit at the upfronts because.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

For picking on Michelle.

[Tamara Judge]

For picking on Michelle. And she talked to me about it and I go, okay, I get it. I get it. I've been in reality TV long enough that I. I get it. And so I'm sure that if there she's coming to me, she would go after her ex as well. Now Jesse tells Jason that Kristen's going to approach him about something. And then, you know, he like, what your. What are your thoughts on him getting involved in this? Jesse, given Jason a heads up, should he stay out of it? Should he be like, hey, dude, like, I know we just made up. I want to have your back here, but that some shit's been said about you and she. He doesn't tell him what it is, and you could seal. Jason is unraveling. He's like, what is it? Oh, God, what is it? And I thought at a moment, like, is he really insecure? Or did he. Does he do something that can get him in trouble? Because I know if somebody told Eddie, like, by the way, someone's going to confront. He's like, bring it. I don't care. Like, what could it be?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I say the same thing.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. He was really nervous about it to the point when he found out what it was about. You could see the relief. Oh, thank God. That's all it is.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, some people.

[Tamara Judge]

But, like, you know, some people don't like surprises.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like. Like, if you called certain friends, like, if you called Teddy and said, I have to talk to you, and she'd be like, no, no, it's got to be, no, no, we know she's done nothing.

[Tamara Judge]

I've done that to her. I've done that to her. I've called her and I said, hey, I got to talk to you about something. You know, let me know. She was at a horse show, so let me know when you're home and by yourself. And she's like, calls me. Immediately. I go, are you alone? Are you with your daughter? And she's like, I'm with her. And I said, just call me. Like, no, I gotta know now. I gotta know now. So some people are like that. But he was a. He looked like a nervous wreck.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, that's the thing. Like, I. I'm not going to judge him by that. I could. I could. But not everybody's as carefree, don't give a shit as me.

[Tamara Judge]

Right?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

So I'm just gonna say that's probably more of a normal response than saying, who cares?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I think me and Eddie are like brother and sister.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. I'm just used to Eddie. I don't give a shit what anybody's saying.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I don't care. I'm like Paul. I don't care. Don't tell me.

[Tamara Judge]

So funny. You and Eddie are a lot of like. Me and Paul are a lot of like, just shows, like.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Exactly.

[Tamara Judge]

So funny. So Luke and Kristen sit down with Janet and Jason. Luke tells them about the rumor that's spreading. Jason's relieved that this is the rumor. That's 100 false. Janet pulls Jasmine over and she says she heard this rumor two years ago. I mean, now we're Jasmine.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Jasmine again. Right?

[Tamara Judge]

She likes to get in the middle of things, that's for sure.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Yeah, well, you know, but not in a nice way. I don't think she was being nice to break. She's like. Well, then she backtracked on the rumor. Well, it was two years ago, and I really don't believe it. Then why are you bringing it up?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, well, because it's reality tv, and that's what we do. And Janice Confessional, she says she knows where her husband is at all times because she puts an air tag on him. I think she was joking.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

You know, you can't joke like that. And you know what? If you want to put an air tag on your husband, go ahead.

[Tamara Judge]

How about it?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

How about it? Go ahead. I don't care.

[Tamara Judge]

My husband would find it and throw it in the bushes.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I mean, it's. There's something called an iPhone.

[Tamara Judge]

You don't track people. Find my friends.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's called find my friend. It's called share your location.

[Tamara Judge]

Life360. So then Brittany pulls her friends aside to tell them about Jax's new condo next to Tom Schwartz. They tell her to get a lawyer immediately so she's not stuck with the $14,000 a month mortgage.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Where's he get it? That's a fucking lot of money. Why so much? I don't see a house that. That justifies that kind of mortgage. Am I missing one?

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, their house is nice, and I don't know how much they paid for it, but it's just I would personally wouldn't feel comfortable with that amount of mortgage. I know people like to. I'm weird. Even with. I paid my car, I paid my. Bought my car with cash. Like, I don't like payments, especially big.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Me neither. You're like me. I don't like. I don't like. You never know what tomorrow brings. So I don't like debt. I don't. Now they have to worry about how are they going to pay this.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. So I just say, sell the damn house, finalize the divorce and move on. You're going to be much happier, that's for sure. Then Jasmine sell it. Yeah. Jasmine and Brittany go to Jax is to meet up with Tom Schwartz, which Thomas just sitting there going, I'm getting paid for this, right? I'm getting paid for this. He doesn't really do anything. He just kind of sits there. Kind of like when he went to Summer House, he was just there and he's there and he's smiling and I like him a lot. I think he's a good guy, but I like him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's like, like soft spoken and, and he's never nasty.

[Tamara Judge]

I think he's. Out of all the guys, he's the guy to marry Tom Schwartz.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's really not a lot of choices here.

[Tamara Judge]

There's not a lot of choices. But Brittany puts a nap. So they go to Jax's bar. They get a little shady. Brittany puts a napkin over a framed picture of Jax. Jasmine's getting involved. No, no, no. We're gonna cover his face. And I'm like, okay. Ha ha. Funny. Shorts has been texting with Jax who's making it seem like re rehab has done wonders for him.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God, Amazing. So much wonders.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I know. Meanwhile, Brittany just found out that Jax hasn't been paying their mortgage since May. It is now, this was filmed in August, so there's three months. So if you take 14,000 times three, that equals $42,000 owed. I don't know where she came up with it. I probably owe a hundred thousand dollars at this point and it's going to ruin my credit and all these things.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Late fees, maybe, whatever else he didn't pay.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, maybe she meant he's not paying anything.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Like, where does he get, what does he do for a living?

[Tamara Judge]

He. Well, you know, he's big on cameo. He had said like at one time, I don't know if it's true, but he, and he's always, well, he is always at the top of the leaderboard in Cameo that he made like almost a half a million dollars. He makes a half a million dollars just on cameo. It's crazy. So. And then he has his bar. But I, you know, I've owned a brick and mortar and know how that works. It doesn't always make money. And, you know, I don't know how well that's doing. Brittany starts crying, says she's going to lose her dream home and her family because of Jax. Brittany tells Schwartz there's no more Jax and Brittany, she says. And we get a flashback of a relationship throughout the years. It was really cute. And sweet to see their relationship and their marriage and all.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Well, I watched it. I couldn't sleep one night and their wedding was on and I watched it.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, yeah, you told me about that. It was.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

And it was like they did flashbacks then of before her life got dragged through the mud. So. Yeah, that's like. I wouldn't want to watch flashbacks of that.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Well, it sounds like it's over. There's no hope of them getting back together. Hopefully they can co parent. Well, now Jax, we see the previews for next week and Jax is there. So Jax does come back there. I believe they're in Hawaii. So that looks like a good episode because this episode wasn't great. Sorry it wasn't great. We have a few fan comments. Janet and Jason need to go. Janet needs one of your CBD gummies. So that was it. So we will see them in Hawaii next episode.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I always like watching they get a great cast trip. Is that the cast trip?

[Tamara Judge]

I think so.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God. And we got the Jersey Shore.

[Tamara Judge]

Always.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Oh, my God, that's so nice.

[Tamara Judge]

It's nice.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Love it.

[Tamara Judge]

I know Ireland.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Ones that we can't forget about. About the one time we went to Ireland that.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, we went to Ireland. It was one of my most favorite trips ever. Just because visually it was so beautiful. Like, I'm like, oh, my God.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Who wakes up in a castle every day?

[Tamara Judge]

Castles and riding bikes through the countryside. Now Hawaii. I haven't been to Hawaii in a hot, hot minute. It's been like I've never been. You've never been?

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

How far is it? How far? Have a flight. It's like a five hour flight.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

18 hours or something.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, no wonder there's other places. Hours. That's after.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

After five hours. It's 24 hours.

[Tamara Judge]

You guys are. You can go to like the Bahamas.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It's three and a half hours to the Bahamas.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, see, that's. I'd rather do that. Okay, guys, thank you for tuning in and yeah, and we'll see you next week in Hawaii.

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