When You’ve Hit Rock Bottom. (The Valley Recap)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge Episode Title: When You’ve Hit Rock Bottom. (The Valley Recap)
Release Date: April 23, 2025
Hosted by: Brittany Cartwright and Teddi Mellencamp
Published by: iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In this episode of Two Ts In A Pod, hosts Brittany Cartwright and Teddi Mellencamp dive deep into the latest drama and developments from "The Valley," a reality series that continues to captivate its audience with its intense interpersonal conflicts and emotional turmoil. Skipping over the introductory segments and advertisements, the hosts immediately engage listeners with candid conversations about the recent episodes, setting the stage for an engaging and insightful recap.

Key Discussions and Insights

1. Relationship Turmoil Between Jesse and Michelle

The core of this episode revolves around the strained relationship between Jesse and Michelle. Brittany and Teddi dissect the complexities of their divorce proceedings, highlighting the emotional baggage and accusations that continue to surface.

• Accusations and Denials:

  • Brittany: "Jesse claims he's 99% sure that Michelle cheated on him twice, but Michelle vehemently denies these allegations."
  • Teddi: "[00:22:21] Michelle swore on her daughter's life she didn't cheat on him. Anytime somebody swears on people's lives, they're lying."

• Public Perception and Media Influence:

  • The hosts discuss how public opinions are being swayed by the constant back-and-forth and the role media plays in amplifying these disputes.
  • Brittany: "Michelle portrayed Jesse as an absentee father, but Jesse admits it's been a huge struggle balancing work, personal life, and being a single dad."

2. Jax Taylor’s Struggles with Mental Health and Addiction

Jax Taylor’s journey takes center stage as the hosts explore his admission of needing help and his decision to enter a mental health clinic.

• Admitting the Need for Help:

  • Jax’s Confessional: "My name is Jax Taylor, and I'm finally admitting I need help."
  • Brittany: "I hope for the sake of their son and their relationship that he spends that 30 days in treatment."

• Family History and Personal Accountability:

  • Discussion about Jax’s family history with anger issues and mental illness, emphasizing the importance of breaking the cycle.
  • Teddi: "[00:23:08] Do you think that Jax would be doing this if he wasn't filming a television show?"

3. Conflict and Gaslighting Dynamics

The interplay between Jesse and Michelle is examined, particularly focusing on instances of gaslighting and emotional manipulation.

• Gaslighting Incidents:

  • Brittany: "Jesse throws fuel on the fire by questioning Michelle's honesty about his alleged cocaine use."
  • Teddi: "[00:36:12] He gaslights her the same way he did back when they went on that trip last year."

• Impact on Their Children:

  • The hosts express concern over how these adult conflicts are affecting their children.
  • Brittany: "Fighting in front of their child is not only unhealthy but also sets a troubling example."

4. Production Elements and Their Impact

Brittany and Teddi critique certain production choices in the show, such as the use of security cameras and staged packing scenes.

• Security Cameras Inside the House:

  • Teddi: "[00:29:35] Why do they have, like, such huge security cameras inside their house?"
  • Discussion on privacy concerns and the authenticity of what viewers are seeing.

• Packing Scenes:

  • Brittany: "The packing scenes are so annoying. Just pay attention, people."
  • Teddi: "[00:24:16] The packing scenes are so annoying. Just pay attention, people."

5. Cast Members’ Personalities and Actions

The episode delves into the personalities of various cast members, including Zach and Sheena, analyzing their behaviors and relationships.

• Zach’s Hair and Authenticity:

  • Brittany: "Is Zach’s hair real or is it a wig? It’s distracting and takes away from the authenticity."
  • Teddi: "[00:28:08] Is it a wig or is not a wig? I need to know if Benji has."

• Sheena’s Involvement:

  • The hosts discuss Sheena’s role in escalating tensions and her interactions with Jesse.
  • Brittany: "Sheena’s gateway back into the show with her comments about Jesse’s girlfriend being unfaithful."

6. Custody and Parenting Issues

The complexities of co-parenting are explored, focusing on the custody schedule changes and their ramifications.

• Changing Custody Schedules:

  • Brittany: "Jesse's changed the custody schedule, and it's really frustrating. Why can't they agree effortlessly?"
  • Teddi: "[00:17:47] The custody schedule thing is really fucking annoying."

• Impact on the Children:

  • Concerns about how these changes are impacting the children involved.
  • Brittany: "I’m not a fan of kids having other people sleep over at their houses when things are new. It’s a little too much."

7. Future Prospects and Speculations

The hosts speculate on the future of the relationships and the potential outcomes of the ongoing conflicts.

• Potential Reconciliation or Separation:

  • Brittany: "I hope Michelle never goes back to Jesse. Their toxic relationship is only tearing them apart."
  • Teddi: "[00:37:20] I hope she never goes back to him."

• Production’s Role in Shaping the Narrative:

  • Brittany: "Production is getting involved, which only heightens the drama."
  • Teddi: "[00:35:57] We're in it deep."

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Brittany Cartwright:

  • Questioning Vince's Manipulation: "[22:17] Anytime anybody swears on people's lives, they're lying."
  • On Custody Issues: "[17:36] Jesse's changed the custody schedule. This is really fucking annoying."

• Teddi Mellencamp:

  • On Casseroles: "[06:12] What is a casserole anyways?"
  • On Jax's Treatment: "[23:29] You need $1,000 a day to try to get Jax handled."
  • On Hair Authenticity: "[28:34] Is it a wig or is not a wig? I need to know."

• Jax Taylor (In-Show Confessional):

  • Admitting Need for Help: "[23:08] My name is Jax Taylor, and I'm finally admitting I need help."

Conclusion

In this episode of Two Ts In A Pod, Brittany and Teddi provide a thorough and unfiltered recap of the latest happenings in "The Valley." Their insights into the tumultuous relationships, particularly between Jesse and Michelle, alongside Jax Taylor's personal struggles, offer listeners a nuanced understanding of the show's dynamics. By highlighting key moments and providing candid opinions, the hosts deliver an engaging and comprehensive summary that both fans and new listeners alike will find valuable.

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Transcript

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[Jax Taylor]

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[Brittany Cartwright]

Two.

[Kristen Doute]

T's in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Hi guys. Welcome to another episode of two T's in a Pod with myself, Teddi Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The teas are back, baby.

[Brittany Cartwright]

You wanted to say bitches, but then.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I want to say bitches.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I have a question. What's your favorite curse word? Because I was talking about this with someone. I mean, granted, the person I was talking about it with was 80 and she. Her word really cracked me up.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, it depends. Is it like, directed towards somebody or is it when I stub my toe? Stub my toe is mine's my life.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Oh, yeah. My life is just on a daily basis. And if anything annoys me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, I mean, I love a good off.

[Brittany Cartwright]

You're a. Yeah. Do you say C u n T?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, I have. Yeah. I have to be really, really, really mad. And I definitely have. It's not one that I like to say.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Okay, so we are gonna talk about this episode. Which did you like it or not?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I liked it. I mean, it was heavy on Jax, who bugs the living shit out of me.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Well, know what? I thought it was heavy on the news reports, on the weather. I don't need to know how hot it is in the damn valley, you guys. I'm going to.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Every time they walk into a scene, they're like, oh, it's hot out there.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Like, we know It's a balmy 190, 109 degrees in the valley in the summertime. Like, we don't need you to tell us. We don't need the reasons why you're sweating. We don't need the reasons why your face is red. It's hot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We get it. We get it. Would you join the Valley?

[Brittany Cartwright]

Would I join the Valley?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I mean, I. I do a lot for money, so I Mean, it's hard to say, but I don't do a lot for money.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You wouldn't show the kitty?

[Brittany Cartwright]

I. I wouldn't show the kitty. She's too cute to just be thrown around.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Don't let her get abused like that.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I'm not gonna. I don't want her to get a beaten. Wow. Yikes. Well, it starts out where Brittany and Jasmine are over at Janet and Jason's house. Um, sometimes I wonder repeatedly what Jasmine. And what's the dude's name with the hair?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Zach.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Zach what? The fact that I can't remember Zach's name and he's in a lot of scenes. Like, I really wonder what they're doing on the show.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

By the way, when I was writing my notes, I said, the gay guy with the wig. I couldn't remember his name.

[Brittany Cartwright]

It's so bad. Like, I don't understand it, but they're there. They're trying to have a. An egg dish. Janet feels like she was talking to a crazy person the night before, AKA Kristen, when trying to apologize for what she said on the podcast. She starts to cry when she remembers what Zach said about her pregnancy. And then Jasmine saw that Janet unblocked Zach on Instagram. But then Janet claims she didn't even realize. See, this is where Janet loses me. Just say you unblocked him to be nosy and move on.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, exactly. So Jasmine says that casseroles are a white person thing, and she's kind of grossed out about that. So what are your thoughts on casseroles and crock pot stuff and things like that?

[Brittany Cartwright]

I love a crock pot, but a casserole? Wasn't casserole a thing on Orange County? Orange County? Like, you didn't even bring me a casserole. I didn't tell you. I'm not going to bring anyone a casserole ever.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, your next food that's going to be delivered to your house for me is going to be casseroles and crock pot stuff.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Please do not do a casserole. I will be furious because, what? They're like a casserole reheated and what.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The hell is a casserole anyways? This shit. You throw in a pot and cook it all together, like, I don't know.

[Brittany Cartwright]

But if there's mushrooms in the casserole, I'm for sure out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You should send Vicki a casserole since she bought you a coloring book of herself. My daughter hates casseroles and crock pots or anything like that.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Like, oh, but I don't know how to make anything in a crock pot.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, you could throw anything you can.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Anything.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

You can throw a small cat in there, it comes out. Right, Right.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Okay, so I. Maybe I'm going to start to learn about a touch of cast. I mean, crock pot action, but casseroles and casseroles when it's hot. No, thank you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

A little, too. I used to make a little tuna casserole when I was married and the kids were little.

[Brittany Cartwright]

My mom used to make a tuna casserole too, which.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, you know what? Baked ziti is really good for the kids. Like, you just make spaghetti, like, with the ziti, like the round noodles, and put it. Put it in the dish and then sprinkle it with cheese and bake it.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Also, that green bean casserole I loved.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

See, we like casseroles.

[Brittany Cartwright]

We just don't like egg casseroles.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Are we just confirming that two white girls love casseroles?

[Brittany Cartwright]

We're just confirming that we're wt.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

White trash @ its finest, baby.

[Brittany Cartwright]

You know what? I want that tuna casserole that you make the next time I come over.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Okay?

[Brittany Cartwright]

Then Kristen visits Jax sans casserole. Kristen. Kristen sees the chair that Jax broke during his fit of rage against Britney. He tries to tell her he isn't justifying his outrage as he keeps trying to justify it. Kristen calls him out on it. And then Jax complains how miserable he feels and how no one is checking up on him like they are with Britney.

[Kristen Doute]

Hello?

[Brittany Cartwright]

Kristen is there.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Kristen's there. Kristen is the cast member that bounces from cast member to cast member, trying to knock some sense into them. And guess what, Jax, it is your turn right now.

[Brittany Cartwright]

But then, Chris, she just left Jesse.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Now she's with you, baby.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Well, then Kristen's been completely with Britney when Jax has called her ugly fat, but Jack denies ever calling her fat. I'm sorry. I believe Britney on this one. I don't think that Jack says anything when he's allegedly in a coke raid.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He said when. When she says that about him calling her fat, his wife fat. His response was, I love girls that look like her.

[Brittany Cartwright]

But then I could go back and look at some of the alleged affairs he's. Well, I guess it's not affairs anymore, but the alleged girls he's been hooking up with since. Remember when there was the one whose dad.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

The one with the giant tits that they flashed on the screen? Wasn't that. Wasn't there one that they put on the screen? The girl like big, giant boobies and.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Maybe he likes Big tits. And he cannot lie. But when Kristen is the voice of reason, you know, it's time for Jax to take out a mirror.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Like this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, there's a lot that Jax needs to take out a mirror. Like, not being allowed to be alone with his son is pretty. Pretty big deal. And he's like, later on when he's like, I'm just going to rehab for my son, dude.

[Brittany Cartwright]

We're gonna get into some of the things that were said in front of the sun that really made me uncomfortable later on. But then first we get to Zach visiting Brittany at a rental home. Oh, Something we need to clear up in regards to Jesse staying in the house. Remember, we talked about this last week and we kind of went into him because we're like, why is this happening? The reason why that happened was Michelle had already moved into another place. She wanted to be in another place.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, that's how bad she want. I did the same thing.

[Brittany Cartwright]

But also his daughter. I'm not having. You know, Jesse's back, even though he's my friend. You guys are going to say it, but I'm assuming he's about to be a really huge dick. Even though I thought Michelle took the dick award for this episode, but both episodes. Yeah, but he. His daughter really wanted to stay in that home, allegedly. So that's why he stayed there. And Michelle moved out. But Michelle had already moved out because Michelle was already in a relationship with somebody else. Yeah, allegedly. We don't know if it was Aaron or somebody else. But also, what about when the kids said I love you to Aaron? I didn't see that really, when the daughter did. Okay. But anyway.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Ouch.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Zach visits Britney. Apparently, Jax texted her and asked that she check up on him every once in a while. Of course, he brought up the picture she sent to Julian again. Britney confirmed it was a picture of her boobs that she sent. Well, nobody thought you were sending pictures of your vagina. Do people do that? That?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Not me. I don't.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I don't even want to say wax. I don't even want to see it. And what position are you doing? I mean, I do think that, like, sometimes the pictures where you hold this and you also hold your prize, those are okay, but you're not really showing anything. You're just showing your bod. I'm a kind of okay with those.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It depends on what my bod looks at the moment.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Yeah, I'm currently not sending those pics to anyone. Then Zach compares Janet to Jack, saying she's just as manipulative as him. I don't know that I would go that far. But then Zach starts to cry because he feels like Janet has been driving a wedge between him and Britney's friendship. I want to start doing a cry test. How many times Zach cries an episode because he cries about that. And then he also cries about Benji, which I needed a jump scare. Before they panned to Benji's FaceTime videos.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I was like, whoa, am I the only person that doesn't care about Zach's relationship or his wig?

[Brittany Cartwright]

I don't care.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is that an actual wig?

[Brittany Cartwright]

No. He does the front blow dry. He does the Jimmy Neutron, but it's not Jimmy Neutron.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He's got Jeff Lewis hair.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Hold on now. I got. I haven't seen Jeff Lewis in long enough that I know what his hair is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, everybody accuses him of having a wig because his hair is so thick and dense.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Well, I can't even believe that anybody would have a wig. This is. My hair is growing at a rapid pace.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It really is.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And look at this body. Tap the link, because this is just, you know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, please, please, I beg you.

[Brittany Cartwright]

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[Brittany Cartwright]

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[Kristen Doute]

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[Brittany Cartwright]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Jax Taylor]

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[Brittany Cartwright]

Zach's upset about the potential deportation to Canada for Benji. Anyway, I don't care. I do care about this. Michelle visits Jesse at his house.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

This is so uncomfortable.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Jesse's changed the custody schedule. I can't say this is really fucking annoying, the custody schedule thing. Like, sometimes times when there's trips involved, I want to be one of those people that's just like, okay, sure, if you're going on a trip or you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Need this, like, there's always one bitter in a divorce. And they're like, no, I. It is my time. Even if they're, you know, I mean, like, I was always like, do what's best for the kids. The kids want to go. Let them go if they don't.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Like, you want to go to Hawaii and take the kids. Why would I say no? Or if I'm going to be out of town. And the options are the kids are with a nanny or the kids are with you. Just say yes, and let's effortlessly make the change. But the way they're doing it, it appears that Michelle is the one always.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Saying, now that's what it sounds like.

[Brittany Cartwright]

But Michelle portrayed him as an absentee father. And Jesse admits it's been a huge struggle trying to balance his work life, personal life, and being a single dad.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I mean, I felt bad for Jesse at this time. And then Michelle giving Jesse shit for crying is so cold and annoying. It's like, come on. And she's like, you just do this to make me look bad.

[Brittany Cartwright]

She hates him with a burning fucking passion.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

What did he do to her? Do you think that maybe he's not as innocent as it's.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I think when he gets drunk, my guess is he verbally says terrible things to her, is my guess, and she's just holding on to that. But I think if he had ever cheated or done anything else, I think we would have already known that by now. I don't think she'd be holding on to that, but I think, you know, Jesse claims he's 99, sure that Michelle. Michelle cheated on him twice. And then Michelle tells Jesse that his new girlfriend talks about him behind his back, telling Sheena she's sleeping with other guys as well. Jesse decides to call Sheena, who tells him that this information Is correct. Allegedly. Jesse's girlfriend is sleeping with the guy from Baywatch. We already talked about this. Whether she's sleeping with the guy from Baywatch or not. I think this was just Sheena's gateway back into the show.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, 100%.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And what guys, she was like, God.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Damn you, Alex Baskin. This is my gateway back in talking shit.

[Brittany Cartwright]

This great. Now I got to talk shit. Can you google which guys from Baywatch live in Orange County? I mean, clearly she'll come to Los Angeles.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Jeremy Jackson.

[Brittany Cartwright]

He lives in Orange County. There is.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He did.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Hold on, Lacey, I'm just going to say this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm going to.

[Brittany Cartwright]

The person that you hooked up with is Jeremy Jackson. I'm revved by the way, guys.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We tried to get her on the pod just for 10 minutes just to hear your her side. She's not interested in doing that. She feels like it would be, you know, make things worse. She's worried about the kids. She's still dating Jesse and she, she's.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Not about the spotlight. I think that shows the difference. Michelle is about the spotlight, even though she has zero to give.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Like, oh my God, could you imagine filming a reality show where you're divorcing Edwin but you guys hate each other and, and you have to like go to his house and talk to him like, no, I wouldn't want to do that.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I could easily do that extra. I want to film the Divorce Chronicles because I think it's the highs and lows is frickin craziness.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But well, you know what I didn't like is Michelle swore on her daughter's life she didn't cheat on him.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Anytime anybody swears on people's lives, they're lying.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, that's not true. I think why?

[Brittany Cartwright]

Because you've said it before.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I've said it before, but I think for sure when you are like, oh my God, I did not do that. And then there's people that, you know, just lie and be like, yeah, I, I, I swear to God on my.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Child'S life, I, I think I said I swear. I've, I've said any time that I've said, like I really swear, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think that I'm like fudging the truth.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Whereas for me it's like it's something, it's not a good thing to do. But I don't say anybody's life.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I swear on people. I don't think I'm not going to say enough. 100% certainty, but I don't think I've sweared on anyone's life. But if I'm being honest, I think I'm just very like, I'm not discussing this. This is clearly what happened. And. But if I feel the need to start grasping, that's where I think I personally, that's what I'm going to do.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. But I thought it was quite interesting that Michelle yells at him, then tells him his girlfriend's cheating on him, and then tries to be nice to him. That's whole passive aggressive situation right there.

[Brittany Cartwright]

But then also not agreeing to SW the days, just. And I. I feel like I'm a monotone human. Michelle takes me out.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, she wins.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Like, she. You know what? I like to win. But like this.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, you don't want to win this one.

[Brittany Cartwright]

This one. Now she's like, jesse, can I have a. He's like, do you want water? And she's like, sure. And he's like, sparkling. And she's like, I guess so. Yes. Thank you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She's so monetized.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I can't. Then Danny and Jason visit Jax at his house for an intervention. This didn't feel like an intervention to me.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I think those were Jax's words. He's like, oh, this feels like an intervention. I think the guys were just there to be like, you're a dick. Yeah, you need. You need help.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Jack says his father and grandfather both struggled with anger issues, and his sister says mental illness runs in their family. So to break the cycle and not allow Cruz to fall into the same trap, Jax has decided to seek help at a mental health clinic. The clinic is $30,000, which, you know.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Thousand dollars a day. Thousand dollars a day.

[Brittany Cartwright]

You know what? I would probably need $1,000 a day to try to get Jax and handled.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you think. Yeah. Do you think that Jax would be doing this if he wasn't filming a television show?

[Brittany Cartwright]

I don't know about that, but all I could think about while watching this is why Jack is packing all of his stuff into a bag that it doesn't fit and why he's packing dirty clothes into it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because when we do the packing scenes, I'm sure you share packing scenes, right? You just. I one time Heather watched the show and she's like, do you really pack with the hangers? And I go, no, I just open the suitcase and just shove things in and take it. Because the packing scenes are so annoying. Just pay attention, people. When you see the packing scenes, you see people putting the clothes into the suitcases. Those are not the clothes they see.

[Brittany Cartwright]

If it matches What?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

They matches.

[Brittany Cartwright]

But also, we already know what you wear every time Jax. It's Jax's sweatshirt from the bar. But can you wear.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's like Eddie with.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Can you go to. Yeah, but Eddie works out. Like, is there something wrong with, like, going to rehab and wearing a bar sweatshirt?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, there is something wrong with that, now that you mention it. Yeah. But he also said that his dad would be turning over in his grave if he knew he was going to a mental health clinic. I'm like, really?

[Brittany Cartwright]

I don't think so.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I don't think so either.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Maybe turning over in his grave in a positive way, like, phew, this is happening. Then Brittany goes to lunch with Janet and Michelle. Brittany tells them she accidentally sent Amazon packages to her old house, and she went to pick them up when Jax wasn't there. She went upstairs to grab some clothes that she may have left, and there was a thong on the bathroom sink. But then why did she bring the thong?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, she took a picture of it. She.

[Brittany Cartwright]

What was the white thing on the table?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That was the thong.

[Brittany Cartwright]

That's what I'm saying. She brought the thong.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, she didn't bring it. It was there. It was left there by some.

[Brittany Cartwright]

No, but when they were at lunch, there was, like, a white thing there, I thought.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, there it was the thong with a wipe. Like a. You know, like a baby wipe or something.

[Brittany Cartwright]

But then Michelle claims that Jesse's new girlfriend sent her a horrific text where she threatened to sue Michelle. Then Janet met her at Jax's. This is the same woman that said she wanted to send the entire cast cease and desist so they couldn't talk about her then. And Janet and Brittany's confessionals, they make a point to use the word allegedly very strongly.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes, allegedly. Allegedly. Now, I would. I think what happened is there was some drama about her that was circulating through the show, and Jesse told her, and she's like, I don't want my name mentioned in this. And so I think that that's what happened. I don't think that she really wanted to sue anybody. She just didn't want her name. I don't know. I'm just speculating.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Also, I'm gonna put a little PSA out there. To anyone potentially wanting to date a Bravo lab or a reality person, don't date them. Well, if you don't want your name out there, it's whether you signed up to do the show or not, your name is going to get.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She doesn't want her name out there. I know her name. You know her Name. I follow her, allegedly.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I don't follow her allegedly, but I have met her allegedly, and she's very nice to me, allegedly. I am also just confused on how you send a cease and desist before anything has been done, like on the show.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm going to speculate that it was sent to production. I think that's what I think.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Okay. Then we're back at Zach's apartment. He's FaceTiming Benji. They throw the idea around of Benji moving to LA or Zach moving to Canada to make the relationship work.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Zach ain't going nowhere as long as he's filming the Valley. I mean, he even had a shirt on that says Valley Crew.

[Brittany Cartwright]

What about his pink on pink shirt? That kind of bugged me too. I don't like that match. Granted, I'm matchy matchy right now, but it's matchy matchy sweatshirt.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Me too.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Yeah. Like, I can't help it if it's a matchy sweatset. I need it. But, like, I don't need matchy matchy pink with pink.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Pink and pink and pink. Well, maybe pink says color.

[Brittany Cartwright]

It's blush and bash.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do we. Do we know? Do we know if that's his real hair? Do we really know that? His real hair?

[Brittany Cartwright]

I think it's his real hair. I think it's just like if my. Here.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, there you go. Even more forward.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I'm a combination of Zach and Teresa now. Stop.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I need to know. Zach, tell us, is this. Is this really your hair or is it.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Or coming over Topper.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is it a topper?

[Brittany Cartwright]

You know what I mean?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Wigs are in right now, Zach, so you can be honest.

[Brittany Cartwright]

We don't mind, but I want to.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Get a wig now. After I've seen your. Your Instagram about the wig store, I'm like, oh, my God, I would do anything to just pluck it on my hair.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And they're sending me a couple more. Some days I'm going to be brunette. Oh, say then Benji jokes about Zach spray tan and Zach's wig. I'm like, that's what I'm saying.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Is it a wig or is not a wig? I need to know if Benji has.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Had sex with him, then he probably. I mean, I'm.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It probably. His toupee probably flew off.

[Brittany Cartwright]

No, I bet he has to take it off. I mean, I wouldn't leave this on if I was going to have sex. You're going to just have to take me with my bald spots all over the joint. I'm not going to be like, watch the Wig. It's very expensive.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Don't fuck up my wig.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Hold on. I gotta utilize this six times in a row before I get it washed, so. Excuse me. But then Brittany brings Cruz over to Jax's house. This entire thing is chaos to me because, yes, Jax is wrong, but they're. They're fighting immediately in front of their.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, at first it was just Jax, and then Brittany was antagonizing him, and I'm like, oh, my God, you guys should not be around each other.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Yeah, there. There's a playing. There's a playing card taped over the security camera. And why.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Why do they have, like, such huge security cameras inside their house? Well, the fact that those up after.

[Brittany Cartwright]

They split up, maybe if that's illegal, by the way, to have cameras inside of the house and video somebody else. Like, if I were to rent out my house right now and had, like. I have security cameras inside.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, you can't have them inside. I know that from Airbnb.

[Brittany Cartwright]

But if you live there, you can have security cameras inside your house. I know I have.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

But I do know a housewife that was caught on a security camera. Ring camera.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Oh, really?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Smoke and a bong.

[Brittany Cartwright]

We're gonna have to talk about that later. Then Jax gets home and says hi to Cruz and literally scares his child to the point of tear. Like, he, like, runs up to him and the kid's like. And then Brittany tells Jax, he. This. I didn't love Britney. Don't kiss my child on the face. Because he had a random girl over last night that we probably could have left off. I know that we could have probably.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, that just prompted Jax to scream, like, was Julian over last night? And she's like, absolutely not. And I'm like, shut the fuck up and stop yelling at each other. This is the time.

[Brittany Cartwright]

But also, this happened with Jesse and Michelle as well, where they're talking about the kids seeing other people sleeping over at. At their houses when it's new. Yeah, I'm not big on that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm not big on it either.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Like, I'm like. I think that's a little.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I waited six months for Eddie to even come over to my house, and then it was probably a year before he spent the night.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I mean, do you want another.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Do you want to know the reason why he spent the night?

[Brittany Cartwright]

Why?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Because I threw wine in Gina's face after the event. I said, can you spend the night? Because if I get arrested, I don't want my kids to go to. Into custody. That's.

[Brittany Cartwright]

That tracks.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Hello, darlings. Pack your suitcase for a new season of the Hulu original reality series Vanderpump Villa.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Let's do this.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Ciao.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It's Stassi. Of course. Lisa brought in her favorite to be resident chaperone of the Castle. Darcy is an icon. She's my eyes and ears. I love this.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Get ready for the luxury and drama that awaits us in Italy.

[Kristen Doute]

Cheers to all the toxic couples in the castle.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Season 2 of Vanderpump Villa premieres April.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

24, streaming on Hulu.

[Kristen Doute]

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[Kristen Doute]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

Well, I don't know about you, but.

[Kristen Doute]

Like, I never liked being told, oh wow, you look so good for your age. Like, why even bother saying that? Why don't you just say you look.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Brittany Cartwright]

And Jax's confessional. He admits to having Paige over at the house, which was breaking the rules he and Brittany set. These are the type of rules, like, you know they're going to be broken, so you might as well just zip it on that.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, yeah, but how about when Jack says to her, I have people watching you. Yeah, like, but also, if Britney wants.

[Brittany Cartwright]

To hook up with somebody else, just let the girl hook up with somebody else. You've hooked up with half of Los Angeles, allegedly.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah. And then he like, throws like, fuel in the fire. He's like, you had her here? And he's like, I was at her house too. Yeah, like, oh, my God, you guys, stop.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I know. And then all of a sudden, the nanny just magically arrives and the son leaves. And I'm like, oh, how'd the nanny get here? She didn't walk in with them. And then they keep going at it. And this is where. Now it's all of a sudden, production starts getting involved in this conversation because you can tell this is where Britney is going to say cocaine.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yes.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And she said it and she said it. And he took it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He took it.

[Brittany Cartwright]

At first he was like, this, this can't happen right now. I don't want this to happen.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And then she said it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She talks about his coke addiction and she. It just came, like, right out of left field.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And then he did what he always does and immediately throws it back in Brittany's face and says, so you've never done coke? And this is where I think she truly gets him. She goes, yeah, I have, but give me a test right now. And I would pass Would you? And that's where it's like, holy shit. We're in it. We're in it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

We're in it deep.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And it's clear that, you know, he's gaslighting her the same way he did back when they went to. On that trip last year. And he was like, you're drinking too much. And she was like, panic to tell the. I mean, I think they both have partied a lot together, but to try to use that. But this is where she says to him, and I really appreciated it. She was like, listen, if you don't finish, like, I'm fine to support you through this treatment, but if you don't get through the 30 days, I'm filing a restraining order. I'm gonna do full custody.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And then what was the third one?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

She's filing for divorce, I don't think.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And filing for divorce.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And I think.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I hope to God she never goes back to him.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I hope. I really hope. But then, in the midst of all of this, Jason shows up to take Jax to the facility with an unpacked bag with sneakers falling out. And in his confessional, he says, my name is Jax Taylor, and I'm finally admitting I need help. But you know what? I think we need Zuli on the pod.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Who's Zuli? The nanny.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Yeah, Zulie's the nanny. Because I want to know what really happened in that house. We're missing some.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, let's see the security cameras there. But she. Jack says, I'm doing this for my son because I threw things. And all I could think about. What about the fact that you have. You're addicted to cocaine? Does that. Allegedly. Does that. Does that enter your mind at all?

[Brittany Cartwright]

Well, I. I feel like cocaine. When he didn't answer back. Test me right now. Because if somebody would have said that to me, I would have been like, well, test me right this minute and I'll prove it to you. But I think it was clear he's actually really ready to go in for treatment. I hope for the sake of their son and for the sake of their relationship that he spends that 30 days in. But have we heard anything about him since he's been out?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

No, I don't think so. And I. I think part of him did not want to go to.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Because he didn't want to miss filming.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

He didn't want miss filming. That's what I thought immediately.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Me, too. But either way, he goes, we're happy about it. And then we get into some additional things. Know who we didn't really see much of this episode.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Who?

[Brittany Cartwright]

The happy couple. That is, I think, going to get torn to shred soon.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, you're talking about Danny.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Danny Nia. We didn't see much of them. We saw Danny make a couple comments about Valencia again, but that's it.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

And they did move, right?

[Brittany Cartwright]

Did they move?

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Yeah, that's what I heard.

[Brittany Cartwright]

This just in through Tamara Judge doing her research. They did move to Santa Clara. And that's smart because they are popping out another child. That's a lot of kids in a two bedroom apartment.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

That's a lot kids under four. But I feel like she a lot.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And she's five years old.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Could you imagine? I feel like she's the one that wants like six kids or something. She's just so sweet and loving and kind and I'm like, how I had four kids. I have no idea.

[Brittany Cartwright]

You know, I know I just said this just in and I gave you a compliment, Tamara, but now I'm taking it back because even though on Google it says they moved to Santa Clarito, when you go to their actual post, it just said they're moving because they're having another kid, but it doesn't say where they're moving to.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

Oh, I thought it was. I. I thought, I thought I heard it somewhere.

[Brittany Cartwright]

I know, Me too. But I think that you're gonna be gone for a little bit, so when you get back, we'll recap all the other things. I miss you.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I miss you. I love you.

[Brittany Cartwright]

Okay, guys, thanks for tuning in to another episode of two T's in a Pod.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Brittany Cartwright]

You can add the cold foam to literally any drink. I'm waiting to add it to my espresso martinis.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

It also is the perfect podcast. Pick me up.

[Brittany Cartwright]

And right now, they're giving y'all a $3 coupon. Visit coffeemate.com coldfoam my drink to grab yours. But act fast. There's only a limited supply.

[Teddi Mellencamp]

I'm literally doing this right now.

[Brittany Cartwright]

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[Kristen Doute]

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[Brittany Cartwright]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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[Brittany Cartwright]

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[Teddi Mellencamp]

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