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Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of Two Teas in a Pod with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge. Good morning.
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Morning, Teddy.
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Good morning, Tam. How you going?
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I'm good. I am doing the pod, and then I am finishing my packing and going to the airport.
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Today's the day.
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Today's the day now. So it's today. Today is Sophia's birthday.
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Oh, my gosh. Happy birthday.
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20. 20. 20 years old. So she flies out tomorrow because her boyfriend has a special dinner planned for her tonight at a fancy restaurant. So they're gonna do that. And then the morning, really early, like 4 in the morning, they're leaving for the airport. And then, of course, I look. It's raining.
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Raining the whole time.
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Yeah. I'm like, what the New York. Every single time. I feel like I go. Anytime I go to the east coast, it's raining. And I asked Julius, I go, what is going on in New York? It rains all the time. He goes, where? The new Seattle. Like, it just rains all the time. I'm like, I don't like it.
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Because you're like, I don't want to have it.
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Well, just because in New York, you walk everywhere, so I mean, whatever. And Sophia's like, who cares, Mom? You get a little wet. And I'm like, I do.
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Like, I do. I have a lot of figures I gotta weave. What do you expect from me? Yeah, I know. Well, my sister comes tomorrow.
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I know. I'm so excited for you guys.
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So excited. And I convinced her to stay an extra day already, and she hadn't even gotten here yet.
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Oh, my gosh. How long is she out for?
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So she comes tomorrow, and then she leaves Monday, but she was going to leave Sunday, and I was like, what? You can't leave Sunday. You got to leave Monday.
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Monday. Yeah. We got to finish this weekend out.
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Finish it out. Come on. That's good.
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I'm happy. I'm.
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Me too. Because I know she gets super emotional about this stuff.
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She's like, me, me and her can talk the same thing. We're like, oh, God.
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I know. You guys don't hear from me. You get emotional. You think that, that something's going on.
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Yes, yes, yes. And then, and then, like there are certain people that are super strong and positive and all that. And I'm like, oh, God, I saw her post.
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She.
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I just talked to her. She sounds horrible or she sounds sad or oh my God, what's going on?
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I know, I know. We can't help ourselves.
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You're like, if I want words of encouragement, I don't call my sister or Tamara.
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I'm like, listen, guys, I'm not calling anyone. I'm doing the best that I can. Well, I can say this in regards to my panic state. Yeah, it's better than Lisa Barlow's. This entire episode. I have never seen somebody at such a full blown panic. An entire episode.
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Well, she didn't. She wasn't there for the first episode. We still don't know why. Do you think it was contract negotiation or she was like, shit, with all this stuff coming out, do I really want to go out, you know, go back and air my dirty laundry? I'm still very, very confused about these lawsuits that have been dismissed. Why are they even being talked about?
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Well, I don't know. Apparently we're going to get a bullet point of it with like on poster board for next week. Because I saw the trailer for that. Oh, yeah?
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Yeah, I saw.
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Yeah. I'm like, oh, gosh.
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I'm like, why are we talking about. Are these old lawsuits that.
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They must not be. I mean, some must be. But something for the. Was, was it the, the Herald. The fact. The Herald. The Washington. Was it the Washington? I guess it's not the Washington Herald.
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No, I think it's like Salt Lake City Tribune or something. I don't even know.
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Oh, you're right. It is the Salt Lake City Tribune. That make. That tracks. That makes a little sense.
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Yeah. Is there a Tribune in every city? What is a Tribune? I don't know. Anyways, I never really thought about the word because back in the day used to throw the paper, you know, to everybody's house. The Tribune. Do people still get the paper? Is it online?
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I think it was the Tribune that we got thrown and it was like the front door. I don't know. That was just the papers. I don't, I don't know. I get a bunch of catalogs that I don't want.
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I know, right? Is it. A tribune is a champion of the people. Oh, we're tribunes.
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That's us. Pretty much what we're. We are tribunes.
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Tribun.
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Just champion Tribunes in a pod.
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Two T's, three T's. Tamar, Teddy, and Tribune. That's us. Episode. This episode was something else, man. I just watched this and I get so fired up. I'm like, yes, yes. And then I'm like, why can't I Show me like that.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Yeah. I've seen Teresa say recently out there going, put me on Salt Lake City.
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I mean, it's so good.
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It's move on, but. Well, she's not exactly the queen of moving on, but, like, just the dynamic and just move on.
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Well, it starts out after waking up in the rv. The girls gather around the fire pit to make breakfast. This.
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I. You know what? First of all, I have to say, I never thought that they actually were going to spend the night.
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Me neither. Me neither. We were wrong there. When we're wrong, we say we're wrong.
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Eight girls in one rv, and they're probably starving, right? But there's, like, not that many beds.
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I know in RV like that somehow they're all in there and they're squeezed in.
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They're in chairs that recline. They're like, yeah, get me out of here.
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Meredith's like, is there a coffee frother or is there something like that? I'm like, most definitely not.
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Do you think that Beverly Hills cast would sleep in an RV for 24 hours like that?
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I don't think so. I can't imagine it.
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I don't know if Orange County. I think certain people would. But certain people would not. Maybe. I don't know. We did RVs. One year we went to Glamis and we. But we had our own rv. It's nice to have your own shitter, your own refrigerator, your own bed space. Your own space.
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I mean, I. I lived on a. On a tour bus for like six months.
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How old were you? Six?
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No, I was. I did this as an adult. I went and worked for my dad for, like, six months on tour.
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Shut up.
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Yes.
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And what did. What was your job title? Can you please fill me in?
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I was. What was my job title? I worked for his tour manager. So I was tour manager assistant.
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Oh, my God. I just saw your sister posted a picture of your dad with Willie Nelson, like, back in the day. And I'm like, that is such an iconic Picture. It was him, Willie and somebody else. I can't remember who the other person was. You might remember, but I'm like, oh my God, did you get to hang out with Willie Nelson?
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I mean, I have hung out with Willie.
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Oh my God.
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But I don't think he really. Then I probably was six.
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Yeah, but they're still friends to this day. They. They're involved with the farm aid, right?
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Yeah, they're still friends to this day. They still work together. But, um. Yeah, no, I know my sister's way more on top of things than I am when it comes to that kind of stuff.
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Does she live close to him?
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No, she lives in South Carolina and he lives in Indiana. But he has a house in South Carolina too.
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I thought they lived in the same state.
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No, they don't. But you know, they live close. But after the girls wake up in the rv, they gather around the fire pit for breakfast. Heather essentially opens up and has a conversation where she says she's ready for her daughter to leave. I didn't realize until this moment that Heather has been like the sole.
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Me too.
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That was caregiver.
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I enjoyed that. I enjoyed hearing her talk about that. That her husband. Ex husband. Was not really involved and she had the kid, the girls by herself. How long has she been divorced?
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Been a long. I mean, a while. Cuz she's been divorced since she came on the show.
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Yeah, it's six years, right? They've been on the show.
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Yeah.
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Six years. Yeah. So now she's about ready to be a free man.
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She's about to be ready.
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Can we talk about the steak? They were cooking like of all things, like they didn't. They couldn't even wait. They couldn't even make dinner. They were eating like bagels and stuff for dinner. But they're out there cooking steak for breakfast.
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What about a croissant for breakfast?
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How about anything? But Eddie makes steak for breakfast all the time. I'm like, I can't.
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Steak in a bowl.
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Steak in a bowl. That's exactly.
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Steak in a bowl with no forks.
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Just nah, nah. N that bone. I'm actually surprised that Mary ate that steak.
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Well, she was starving. All she had was that little bit of a bagel the night before, before the Blair Witch Project started.
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You made me freaking eat bagels for dinner last night and you had steak in there. What the hell?
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You know, she was so ready to get out of there. But when Heather's opening up, her daughter's leaving, and how she's, you know, feels a sense of relief. And I, I think what she was saying was, like, it's all come down to me. And now the, some of the pressure is being relieved. Bronwyn says, well, I feel the opposite, and doesn't want her daughter to leave. Heather thinks Bronwyn is calling her a bad mother. The way Bronwyn delivered this in the scene versus how did she deliver it? How did she, she delivered it like, what? Well, I don't even want my daughter to leave. I want her to stay so badly, I moved her boyfriend in.
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Well, I don't think that she was making Heather look like a bad mom. I think Heather probably took it like that. Like, oh, God, you want. You're here. We are on national tv, and you're saying, oh, my gosh, I want my daughter to stay forever. And that's actually not great, to be honest with you. You have to let them spread their wings Now. I did a scene with Sophia this season, and people are like, I can't believe you're kicking her out. I'm, like, kicking her out? No, I'm kicking her to college. What are you talking about?
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No, but also, I think the way that Bronwyn talked about it and her confessional made a lot more sense and wouldn't have upset Heather at all because she was like, listen, I'm scared for her to leave because I'm scared for then what that means I need to accomplish for myself. And what if I'm a failure? And what if I'm this and what if I'm that? Like, she didn't say any of those things in the moment.
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Yeah. Or she did and they didn't air it. Who knows? But what do you, what are your thoughts about her moving the boyfriend into the house? And how old is her daughter? Do you know?
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I think her daughter's just graduated high school.
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Oh, Is there a reason why she moved the boyfriend into the house?
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I mean, probably because they have. They wanted to be together, and she said, I'd rather you guys stay in the house.
B
Well, does he not just live down the street?
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I don't know.
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Tam, I need more background on this. Did his parents move? Was he homeless?
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What?
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Why? Why would you move him into the house? Did he need a place to stay?
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Because she doesn't want her daughter to leave, and her daughter probably wanted to move in with him.
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Okay, that's, I, I, I don't like that, honestly.
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You don't like that?
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I don't. If that's the real reason. I don't.
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I mean, okay, yeah, then Whitney gets emotional Saying she wished she could be a stay at home mom instead of being stressed and she kind of goes into her business some more. And so we have some clarity on that.
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So let's talk about the clarity on that because I am a little bit confused. There was things flashed up saying she was running a multi level marketing company.
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Well, I think that's. They were saying the, the business started crashing and then people started saying all these different things. So that it was an mlm, that it was this, that it was.
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There's a lot of negativity attached to multi level marketing businesses. They're not all bad, they're not horrible.
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All I know is that when I was a kid I grew up on Amway. Yeah.
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I mean there's been a lot of them have been out there for a long time. I remember when Advocare was they, they were a multi level marketing. It's all health products. I signed up for that. I use their products. I shared their products, I got sent on trips, all that stuff. They no longer do it. But now it's not like multi level. It's just like you get commission for anybody that buys from your site. And I still get checks from it.
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You do?
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Yeah, I still do.
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Oh my gosh.
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Yeah.
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Well, I guess the thing is you make this is what it says. The reason why is you make money mainly by recruiting, not selling instead of focusing on products. Success usually depends on signing up more people under you. Most people lose money. Only a tiny group at the very top earn big while the majority spend more money on the. The products fees than they ever make back. And people feel like it's pyramid. Like even if it's not technically illegal, the structure looks like a lot like a pyramid scheme. Pushy vibes. Friends and family often get targeted stuff or join which comes off as fake or manipulative. Basically the system is set up so a few win big, while a lot lose out.
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I worked, I was, I did a multi level marketing. I have a friend that is a multimillionaire because she is in, is in a MLM and she. Let me tell you, it's not like she just sits back and does nothing. She has got to work her ass off constantly.
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Did you watch? I forget what it was called. The Lulu. Lulu.
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Nuh.
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Lulu Rich documentary. Oh, it was so good about these women that would buy all these products like tons and tons and tons of leggings, different colored leggings and then get stuck with them. Huh?
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Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I mean you have to Know when to quit or when to get out. And if it's working for you, you have to be a very pushy person to make tons of money.
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Make it in sales.
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Yeah. And I, I don't think every business, multi level marketing is set up the same way. Maybe some are shady, I don't know. Yeah, but they're legal.
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But we.
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So she was trying to turn her business into a multi level marketing.
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We don't necessarily know that.
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But she was being accused of that.
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Yes, that's what she's being accused of.
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Yeah. I personally would never sign up for one. I'm just.
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She said she merged again.
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Again. I, I did it because it was our. We had a gym and we sold the products at the gym. But I would never be that person. Like, come see my product. Come on. We're gonna have an event at my house and I'm gonna sign you all up. Yeah.
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Well, she merged her business with a wellness company, so she merged it into Soul People. So I think once they merged, things went askew.
B
So there was a partner? I think so, because I heard her say something about her husband's business.
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I think it's their business together.
B
Okay. It's all very confusing, to be honest with you.
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All of their businesses I don't fully understand, but I think he solely works with her for her.
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Okay.
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Because remember, he got the boot from his job and then. Mm. Yeah.
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Yep. Rubbing each other's bodies with. What was it, pain or mud or something like that?
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Oh, yeah. That was a sexy canvas shoot. Yeah. Body.
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And you're fired. And you're fired. And you're fired.
A
Then Mary talks about how Robert Jr. Is doing since rehab, and the RV stops on the way back, so all the girls besides Mary get out and decide to push it themselves. Yeah.
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So the RV's stuck in mud and snow, and, I mean, I. I was. Can those girls even make a budge on that gigantic rv? But they. They got it out. But Mary's out. Nope. Sorry. I'm not pushing an rv.
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She's like, I'm not even getting out of the rv. I'm not even releasing.
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No, no. Yeah. The weight, the way her pounds, she is. I know you're gonna take my £100 out of here. You guys are gonna have to push me too. Sorry.
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I'm a part of this inside, not getting out. I'm still pissed at the steak, but.
B
What'd you think about Heather and Lisa's meetup for lunch?
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Well, Heather and Lisa's meet up for lunch. Heather immediately tells Lisa everything that was said about her on the trip, but not everything. She left off The Chin Shaw stuff.
B
True. Do you feel like Heather was really sticking up for Lisa at the moment when Lisa wasn't there?
A
I don't. I think she was just saying, guys, she's not here. Let's not talk about it. Yeah, but I think that's was kind of the extent. I didn't think it was like a huge something to be like Lisa Barlow getting emotional about how Heather's there for her. I don't know that Heather was there for her to that extent. I think she might have tried to shut it down.
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Yeah. Yeah, a little bit. Now Lisa, she cracks me up with her one liners and she. No one sues the bottom bitch.
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Yeah.
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We all go to the top. And you know what? Getting sued in business, I mean, they always say it's the price of doing business, but all these lawsuits are thrown out and dismissed and.
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But you know who was probably very upset? Screaming into her dry shampoo bottle in complete despair that she was not mentioned for standing up for Lisa.
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Yes.
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Brittany.
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Brittany High count body hair.
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Yeah. She was probably so bummed because she. She really was trying there because that's one of her best friends.
B
What do you think about. Lisa says she lives a different life than the rest of ladies.
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When she says that kind of stuff, it kind of bothers me.
B
You know, Eddie asked me the other day, we're just talking about the different shows, and he said, is everybody rich on every housewife show? And I said, let me think about Salt Lake City. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Angie had that big old house. Did she ever move?
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I don't think she ever moved, but.
B
Her house was for sale. She's got that big old house. But also house prices in Salt Lake City. I don't know what they are.
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They're different. Lisa Barlow, like, her background of her confessional. It looks stunning.
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Yeah.
A
So, I mean, clearly it's not a green screen.
B
I don't think anybody. I think they're all. I don't think anybody's hurting on that show, but nobody doesn't. They don't really talk about money.
A
Yeah.
B
I mean, it's not the type of show, like, I think they leave that for Beverly Hills. Like, you know, they're Beverly Hills. They're fancy. They're. But all the other shows or Miami, Miami. Miami's Hunt.
A
They talk about money, money, money, money. But I think the problem.
B
Elisa talks about money. My $60,000 ring, I just lost it. Oh, my earrings. All this. Oh, that.
A
And Bronwyn talks About money. Yeah.
B
I would say just watching that Bronwyn probably is the wealthiest one on the show.
A
Yeah. I mean, the fact that she can wear three outfits in one. Like when she walked in and her shoulders were going out to hear because of the. I can't even. I wonder how much like, the outfits are.
B
Does she buy them? Are they borrowed? Are they real? Because I'm telling you, that heart furry jacket, I found it on Amazon, but.
A
I don't think it looked the same. I think, I think. I'm sure it was.
B
I'm sure it was just like the necklace you bought.
A
I think the problem that we're ultimately going to have with Lisa Barlow is she thinks she is more elevated than the others.
B
But why?
A
That's what she's telling herself. Okay. So, you know, she's really put herself up there as like, I am above all. And now you're all trying to take me down because I'm so high up.
B
I was confused with that restaurant. I mean, it was nice that they had a purse hanger at the table, but they gave them like a one sheet paper menu.
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I'm like, you noticed?
B
What is that one sheet? Like a printing paper? Here you go.
A
Yeah, they're like, here, what would you like to eat?
B
Exactly. Here you go. Here's my rundown.
A
But what we do know is the lawsuit does state that John doesn't know about the debts. That's the part we need to make clear.
B
I mean, she didn't write that. Right.
A
Do you think it's fair game for Bronwyn to bring up the lawsuits?
B
Do you think Bronwyn's doing the most or is she just being a good housewife?
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Well, once we get to the this party, I felt like she was an incredible housewife.
B
Incredible. And of course, it's not Salt Lake City without seeing Whitney and Bronwyn skiing together. One skiing, one snowboarding. Whitney's got some moves on the board.
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Oh, yeah, Whitney's good. Whitney's a good skier.
B
She's good.
A
I mean, a good boarder. Yep. And then. No, I like that. It's just a cute little scene. And then we get to a scene with mary and robert jr.
B
This is heartbreaking. Heartbreaking.
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Heart wrenching. Heart wrenching.
B
Mary's face when he admitted to using drugs. I mean, she was such a good mom and so supportive and so concerning and like, he admitted it. It's just like she was just punched in the gut and she's like, what? Really?
A
She's like the same kind of one like. And he's I mean, you could tell he's just lost. I know he's lost, and he doesn't know what to do. And. But she did talk about Robert Jr. I mean, Robert Senior more than she has before.
B
Are they still together? Yeah, he just doesn't want to film.
A
I think he just doesn't want to film, but saying, you know, I couldn't have done any of this without Robert Sr. You know, she. She sings him his praises whenever she.
B
But I wasn't sure if they were together or not.
A
But Robert Jr tells her that he smoked today and he's been using drugs. And Mary explains that she has backed off and wants him to know she trusts him. I mean, this is a slippery slope.
B
It is.
A
It's a slippery slope. And we know what's to come, you know, because we've seen the.
B
So he went through rehab, but now he's probably needed a longer treatment program.
A
But, I mean, he. What? He said, he's like, you go into rehab, and then you come out and you're right back into your same setting that you were in before you went to rehab. So.
B
Right. Well, you have to continue. I've known people gone through rehab. You have to continue. You have to go to appointments, the.
A
Outpatient, new friends, and do all those things. But he. He definitely doesn't. He seems depressed. Yeah, he seems down.
B
It was really sad.
A
Yeah, it was really sad.
B
Then who the hell's Amy?
A
Who's just Rich.
B
Well, who is she? I. When they first talked about her, somebody talked about her. I'm like, oh, we got a friend of mine.
A
No, I don't think so. No, it's just. They wanted to go to that party.
B
It doesn't make any sense. Teddy, explain it to me.
A
They need. Well, I can explain it to you. They needed a good place to have a party and a fight, and Amy said they could do it there.
B
Do you think that. That she's maybe testing as a friend of.
A
I. If I would have thought that maybe she would have talked a little bit, we would have seen her talking, but we didn't.
B
I just. Yeah, I know that. It just doesn't make any sense.
A
Bravo.
B
Like, we never go. Like, hey, girls, there was a party down the street at my friend's house. Would you like to go and film there? It just was weird. They talked about Amy. We saw Amy. We went to Amy's house. We saw Amy's dick sucking the entire time.
A
Loudly in front of all of her fancy friends.
B
Gout dick, too. Not gout dick.
A
Not gout dick. Not me not knowing what gout dick is and having to Google it.
B
Well, I didn't even think that gout dick, like, it was possible, but gout is a form of, like, arthritis, I think, caused by the buildup of, like, acid crystals.
A
So I think she's saying old damn crystals. Yeah.
B
So I'm like, what does this mean?
A
Can't.
B
So I googled it. Can you get gout in your wiener?
A
Can you?
B
Yes. Although it's extremely rare, gout can affect the penis. But doesn't gout swell things? Isn't that something good? Does it make sense?
A
I don't think gout is a good thing. I don't. It'd be like saying the clap is a good thing. Then Bronwyn and Heather meet to talk. Can I just say I have liked more of the reaction shots of the women who looked at them when they walked in. Beyond, like, the women are like, what is happening here? And then Bronwyn apologizes for her comments about Heather's parenting. Came across, and she was trying to connect with her. But also when. When they came in and they sat down, they were both so awkward, they couldn't even say a word to each other.
B
They don't like each other. And you can tell when producers put two girls together, they're like, yeah, we got nothing in common. I don't like you. We work together. Let's make the best of this.
A
Yeah.
B
I hate you. You hate me.
A
Like, they cheers at the end and they're like, to the next disaster. But they pretty much talked through exactly what we.
B
Brittany and Lisa being best friends. Huh?
A
Huh? Ruh row. That's a problem.
B
Do you feel like Heather only has a problem with Bronwyn because Lisa has a problem with Bronwyn?
A
Uh, well, I think she's always had a problem with Bronwyn. I don't think that she likes. I mean, clearly.
B
Take it back. So Heather was always top dog, pretty much on that show. She's always the one with the one liners. She's outspoken. And then in comes Bronwyn, this girl for Fairly Newbie, which is her second season, right?
A
Yeah.
B
She does not hold back.
A
No. She has a sharp tongue. She doesn't hold back. She's able to move on. She's also able to apologize. She's able to really stir the pot. She comes into confrontation even when she's not wanted. So, I mean, I guess that's just. This lunch really gets us nowhere. But then once we get to Amy's Saturday social, Amy, there's that girl again.
B
Amy. Amy.
A
You know Amy, our bestie. Yeah, Amy. Saturday social, Brittany tells Lisa. Lisa comes in. You can tell she's a nervous wreck.
B
Oh, my God. Get. I know that feeling. Like I felt like, you know, after last season, moving forward, I felt like no one had my back last season. And then I moved forward this season. In every, every event I walked into for the first, like, I don't know, six weeks, I felt uncomfortable.
A
Yeah.
B
I felt not wanted, I felt not supported. I felt like I didn't have a close friend. And it's like a hard, it's hard to go into that because you don't know what's going to come out.
A
Yeah, you don't know what's going to come out. Well, it's coming out. It's coming out. And it's coming out at Amy's.
B
Yeah. And she even looked like her and her husband looked a little distant and awkward in the car.
A
They were like silent.
B
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B
I almost died when I saw her walk in with Jared.
A
I was like, you want to know what? Jared is madly in love with the cameras.
B
Then when I looked at Jared, you know who he reminds me of?
A
Who?
B
Jim Edmonds. Jim Edmonds. I was like, that looks like Jim Edwin. Like, it was just so weird.
A
For sure, he has.
B
I just kept like, I. I don't know how I feel about you, Jared. Yeah, but he's madly in love.
A
He said madly in love.
B
That's why he proposed and called it off.
A
I mean, clearly that's what one does.
B
But talk about some dick sucking.
A
Well, before we even get into the dick sucking, Lisa is trying to have a conversation with Angie about this. And then Bronwyn's like, uh, I know that I'm a part of this conversation. So I'm coming in and Lisa is trying to refuse to even speak to her. She's like, you're nothing. I didn't like how she kept being like, you're nothing. You didn't even go to college. You didn't do this.
B
The pettiness of their fighting and how nasty it is just gets me all warm and fuzzy inside. I don't know what that says for me, but I'm like, oh, you are screwing with my therapy right now, Salt Lake City.
A
But like, Bronwyn makes good points. Bronwyn stays relatively calm. Bronwyn's smart not to bring her husband. And I mean, because that would have gone a different way.
B
I bet you we see less of him in group events. I don't think he was very happy last year.
A
Yeah, no, I think we see him alone only. But she. They start to kind of, you know, Lisa gives up and then finally starts fighting with Bronwyn, which is like, okay, that's what we've been waiting for. Angie looks like a deer in headlights. She's seriously like, shit.
B
I don't know why she compared her To Jen Shaw.
A
Why did she do that?
B
I don't know. I don't know.
A
I think she was trying to be funny, but it wasn't funny. But either way, it's now moved on to. Lisa is calling Bronwyn a gout dick sucker. And then they start screaming at each other.
B
I had to like, what? Huh? And it took me a while. I'm like, oh, she's basically saying, you suck old dick.
A
Yeah.
B
And then she's like, you suck dick. You suck dick. And Ramen's like, yeah, I do.
A
My favorite part is when Whitney goes, you guys suck dick.
B
Wait, you still have to do that after you get married?
A
Now?
B
I pass.
A
Now I'm good. I'm done with that. Good. I've moved right along.
B
I got gout in my jaw. It don't work no more.
A
I got jog out. Bronwyn and Lisa get into a very intense argument about Lisa's situation. And Bronwyn digging into Lisa's situation.
B
Who do you think won that fight?
A
Bronwyn. Yeah.
B
I felt like she stayed relatively calm, considering what words were coming at her.
A
She stayed relatively calm and she. I mean, she had facts.
B
I mean, Lisa put up a good fight, but Bronwyn was a little quicker at the clapbacks, I think.
A
I agree, too. I agree. That's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, bronwyn is aware of what she's saying, and she's not getting offended by what Lisa's saying. And Lisa is being very pressed by what anybody's saying to her.
B
Well, I think Lisa could have said something a little bit different than, you are a gout dick sucker who didn't go to college. Who didn't go to college when you're married, it's not like she's calling Brittany. And she already did. Somebody already did, didn't they? I think it was Whitney. There's a lot of dick sucking. Two episodes of dick sucking on this.
A
It's a lot more dick sucking than you're used to.
B
Yes, a lot more than I'm used to.
A
Either way, it turns very, very dramatic. It's heated. The girls are fighting. They're going for it. They're like. They're not holding back. They're not worried about Amy.
B
And thanks, Amy, for letting us use your house. I mean, I gotta believe we're gonna see Amy again.
A
We gotta see Amy again.
B
Because it just, like, they're giving her name so much attention, like, we're going to Amy's.
A
But also it might be because Amy's like a Notorious for, you know, being up here.
B
Amy's their socialite. If they had socialites in Salt Lake.
A
City, I mean, I'm surprised Lisa Barlow isn't the socialite with the way that she's been talking about herself.
B
I know, I know. I think Lisa's in for a really hard season.
A
I think this continues really hard season, too.
B
We need to get her on the pod and see what's going on.
A
I know. We definitely need to get her on the pod, but what was your kind of favorite part of this episode?
B
Well, I think it's probably the fight. The dick sucking fight. I think the most. Obviously the most touching. There was some personal story in there and I really enjoyed that. And it was nice. I can't say it's nice to see because it's sad. It's really, really sad. I mean, I do think that it's helping other people when they show stuff like that. It also, on the flip side, scares me.
A
Yeah.
B
Because then he's labeled as somebody that has a drug problem and you can't do this privately. So it's like, you know, it's hard. It's really, really hard.
A
It's hard. But, yeah, the fight was good. And then we kind of get down to the end of the fight and then I want. I just. I wasn't ready for the episode to be over.
B
I know, I know. What, Remind me what's coming up. Is it a. To be continued?
A
We don't see them leave Amy's. But. Okay, so this week we see Lisa hosting the lunch where she goes over the lawsuits. That's what we see next week.
B
But we know lots of props on this show.
A
So many props, costumes, props, all of it. Printouts, randos.
B
Some Amy girl just shows up.
A
You're really worked up about it.
B
I'm worked out. I am. I. I need to know why she got, like a name and, you know, titled and we went to her house, but she's not a housewife.
A
But I liked Amy. I like Amy from what I saw of Amy. Yeah, Amy. Let's give us more Amy. Let's see what Amy didn't.
B
Okay. Didn't Lisa say something along the lines, and I can't remember, it was, I'm going to go and expose you on a website or blogs or something. I'm like, oh, wasn't that what Monica did?
A
She did say that she was gonna.
B
Go create a website about Bronwyn.
A
Yeah.
B
Is it about Bronwyn now? Isn't that why they all pushed Monica out is because she talked to or she created.
A
Yeah.
B
Prior to even being on the show.
A
I guess because Monica hid it. Hid behind it and didn't admit that she was doing it. Lisa's saying she's being open about it. She's going to do it. Just starting one. This is her goal.
B
Yeah, I don't think that's a good idea.
A
I don't think so either.
B
No, just air it out on the show. Just tell us on the show. We don't need a website.
A
Yeah, I don't need to go to the website.
B
And you might get another lawsuit if you do that.
A
Yeah, I think. Let's just fight it out. Let's keep it going, ladies, because this episode was good. I appreciated it. I felt all the things with all the different women. I thought everybody gave their. It was a 10 out of 10 out of 10.
B
Oh, there we go. 10 out of 10.
A
It was a 10 out of 10.
B
It was good. It was really good.
A
It was juicy. And I think it's only going to get juicier because now we've got Lisa into the mix and they've all got to start hanging out and. Holy moly. But you're not as revved up about me, about the college stuff. I think it's so rude. Oh.
B
By saying I didn't go to college.
A
So I didn't either.
B
So that's why it's like a. A sore subject. Like, you didn't go to college.
A
You didn't even go to college. Like, blah, blah, blah. Like, just stop it. Like, okay, Lisa Barlow, you did. And what. What's your point?
B
I know. I mean, I've heard my kids say to me, well, you didn't go to college and look how successful you are.
A
That's different.
B
Yeah.
A
They're giving you a compliment and trying to get out of going to college.
B
Well, then I would say to Lisa, well, then let's compare tax returns, because isn't her husband rich?
A
Yes.
B
She also had a baby at, like, 17 or something, didn't she, Bronwyn?
A
Yeah, yeah. Well, she was 19, but, I mean, she was young. She had the baby.
B
It's kind of hard to go to college right out of high school school when you have.
A
When you're raising a baby on your own. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Trust me, I know.
A
But that's where, once again, Lisa, showing that she's this elitist.
B
Did Britney annoy you in this episode? I mean, I don't think we saw a whole lot of her.
A
We didn't see enough of her. I mean, we saw her kissing to get Annoyed. Every kiss begins with K. When she.
B
Was kissing Jim Edmonds.
A
Yeah, when she was kissing Jim Edmonds. We saw her and then we saw her come over to say the exact quote that Heather had forgotten. How Heather forgot to tell that to Lisa Barlow. There's no way she forgot.
B
I know.
A
She admitted that on purpose.
B
You know what I want to see this year? I want to see a party at Donnie and Marie Osmond's house. That's what I want to see.
A
Well, you're not going to see that.
B
Do you think they talked to their cousin or whoever he is, third cousin removed? I don't even know.
A
I have no. I. Yeah, but I don't think we're seeing any parties.
B
Do you think Whitney goes over to Donnie's house?
A
Yes. And they're probably like, oh, they probably feel the same way about her that we do. But she didn't drive me that nuts this episode.
B
No, but she wasn't around. She wasn't in it that much.
A
Yeah. So it was okay.
B
We like you, Brittany. We like all you girls.
A
We love watching all of you girls, and we appreciate you.
B
Yeah.
A
But thanks for tuning in for another episode of Two T's in a Pod. We will be back. To recap, what do we still have this week? Miami.
B
We have Miami. And I will be doing that from New York tomorrow. So I watched O.C. oh, my God, you guys. I think this is probably the best episode of the entire season.
A
Now you got me sighted. You got me all excited.
B
Yeah, it's. It's good. I might even watch it again on the plane. That's how good it was.
A
I may even watch myself again.
B
I don't like watching myself, so I like, don't. I get. I have anxiety watching it. Like, what's next? Oh, God, what did I do? What's next? What's next? But this one was good.
A
I'm so excited. I can't wait. Yeah. And it's fun recapping with Erica because, you know, sometimes we have the same thoughts and sometimes they're completely different, but it's. I'm excited. We needed a good, juicy one.
B
And then.
A
Do you think it just keeps getting more dramatic from here or do you. Does it.
B
Yeah, I mean, does it gets. For a few episodes and then. I don't know, I haven't seen them, so. But just remembering filming. Yeah, it gets. It gets juicy.
A
Yes, it's juicy. So keep staying tuned, guys. We appreciate y'.
B
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Episode: Who is Amy? (RHOSLC Recap)
Release Date: September 25, 2025
Hosts: Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
Coverage: Recap of the latest Real Housewives of Salt Lake City (RHOSLC) episode
This episode sees Teddi and Tamra recapping a particularly dramatic installment of RHOSLC, full of personal revelations, friendship drama, confrontations, and the mysterious presence of “Amy.” The hosts break down fights, emotional parenting stories, and Housewife business controversies, dissecting the cast’s behavior with their signature bluntness and insider perspective.
On Lisa’s Anxiety:
“I have never seen somebody at such a full blown panic. An entire episode.”
— Teddi (06:19)
On the RV Life:
“Do you think the Beverly Hills cast would sleep in an RV for 24 hours?”
— Tamra (09:36)
On Mary Avoiding Physical Labor:
“Mary’s like, I’m not even getting out of the RV. I’m not even releasing.”
— Teddi (25:18)
On Lisa’s One-Liners:
“No one sues the bottom bitch. We all go to the top.”
— Lisa (as recapped by Tamra, 26:29)
On Housewife Wealth:
“I would say just watching that Bronwyn probably is the wealthiest one on the show.”
— Tamra (28:28)
On Amy:
“Who the hell’s Amy?... They needed a good place to have a party and a fight, and Amy said they could do it there.”
— Teddi (33:41–33:57)
On the Dick-Sucking Fight:
“You are a gout dick sucker who didn’t go to college!”
— Lisa to Bronwyn (46:12)
“You guys suck dick.”
— Whitney (45:10)
“I got gout in my jaw. It don't work no more.”
— Tamra (45:21)
On Parenting Vulnerability:
“Mary’s face when he admitted to using drugs...it's like she was just punched in the gut.”
— Tamra (30:55)
Teddi and Tamra remain sharp, playful, and irreverent as they dissect the housewives' behaviors. Their own dynamic is affectionate and teasing—they openly admit when they’re confused by cast motivations or logistics, often pulling from their own time as housewives to explain the show's mechanics.
They praise the show’s escalating drama (“It was juicy. And I think it's only going to get juicier...”—Teddi, 50:48) and express genuine emotion about the more vulnerable, “real” family moments.
They end by expressing anticipation for more “Amy” and for the unfolding Lisa drama:
“I think Lisa’s in for a really hard season.” — Tamra (47:28)
“10 out of 10 out of 10.” — Teddi (50:42)
This RHOSLC recap episode is classic Two Ts: messy, honest, and hilarious. The hosts break down all the juicy drama—RV breakdowns, awkward lunches, parenting struggles, legal woes, and viral-level insults—offering pop culture fans both analysis and behind-the-scenes candor. If you missed the show, this recap will leave you wildly entertained and fully caught up.