Two Ts In A Pod – "Will Dadtok Survive This?! (SLOMW Recap)"

Hosts: Tamra Judge & guest host Jenna Kim Jones
Date: December 24, 2025
Podcast: Two Ts In A Pod (iHeartPodcasts)

Episode Overview

This episode serves as a detailed and entertaining recap of the season finale and reunion for Hulu’s "Sisterhood: Living on Mormon Wives" (SLOMW). Tamra and Jenna dissect relationship drama, cast evolution, behind-the-scenes production manipulations, and the mix of real-life struggles and over-the-top reality TV moments. The conversation covers topics ranging from the pressures of parenting, holiday chaos, and wellness routines to the weightier issues of infidelity, trauma, and emotional honesty on camera. True to their "housewives know housewives" brand, Tamra and Jenna blend laughter, personal anecdotes, and candid opinions.

Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Holiday Chaos, Parenting, and Self-Care

Timestamps: 03:30–13:46

• Holiday Burnout: Both share that they’re “one and done” with active school involvement, finding it overwhelming compared to natural “room moms.”
  • Tamra: “I tried to be a Brownie leader one year... It was a one and done.” (04:08)
  • Jenna: “I was a good ref... but the whole process of it all, I don’t have the capacity right now.” (04:23)
• Holiday Decorations and Family: The hosts reminisce about decorating traditions, opting for DIY over hiring help; Tamra and her daughter keep up the spirit while other family members bow out.
• Social Battery & Sobriety: Shared introvert tendencies lead them to prefer hosting over going out. Both chat about drastically reducing their drinking, the physical impact of alcohol, and the rise of “sober-curious” lifestyles.
  • Tamra: “I went to dinner with Vicki and Katie and had two glasses of wine...the next day, I woke up in the middle of the night sweating.” (08:54)
  • Jenna: “It’s been months since I’ve had a drink. I’m not saying I’m not drinking, I’m just choosing not to at the moment.” (09:28)

2. Reality TV Snacks: Processed Food, Diet Soda, and Guilty Pleasures

Timestamps: 10:22–13:46

• They trade stories about attempts to avoid junk food, with Jenna suggesting Zevia as a Diet Coke alternative and discussing childhood snack restrictions.
• The intersection of “bad but good” processed food and “bad but good” reality TV is noted:
  • Jenna: “Well, you know, really good processed food is kind of like a reality show...it’s bad, but it’s good.” (13:21)

3. SLOMW Recap: Drama, Redemption, and the Art of the Reality TV Villain

Timestamps: 13:48–16:04, 21:33–36:15

• Taylor’s Phone Call Fallout: The Dakota cheating scandal is dissected, including his social media “hard launch” with a new partner and how serial infidelity is framed in the show.
  • Tamra: “You’re never going to get the truth out of someone that lies.” (14:10)
• Production Manipulation: Both hosts suggest that several events (e.g., Taylor/Chase date, Marciano/Jesse moments) have the fingerprints of reality tv producers.
  • Jenna: “I feel like those things were producer manipulated.” (33:43)
• The Villain Edit: The rapid shift from fan favorite (Demi) to villain is discussed, with Jenna noting the strategy of “leaning in” to the spotlight.
  • Tamra: “You’re only as good as this week’s episode. You can be great one season, villain the next.” (21:33)
• Redemption Arcs: Whitney is praised for her trajectory from controversial cast member to apparent peacemaker.
  • Tamra: “Whitney… really turned it around. I was really proud of her.” (21:38)

4. SLOMW Gender Roles, Cast Dynamics, and Friendship Complexities

Timestamps: 16:04–27:48

• Business & Friendship: Discussion of Jay Z Styles Hair Academy’s growth, the risks of mixing beauty services with friendship, and hair disasters.
• Custody Battles and On-Camera Disclosures: Taylor’s struggles with her ex and the emotional perils of sharing real-life drama on TV.
  • Jenna: “Everyone’s showing all sides, so you can’t pick and choose just because you don’t want to be looked at as the bad guy.” (25:44)
• Cast Payment Dynamics: The hosts debate whether SLOMW’s men are (or should be) paid, noting how on "Housewives" they are not.
  • Tamra: “On Housewives, the men don’t get paid...so maybe he’s like, screw this, I’m not getting paid.” (26:05)

5. Trauma, Therapy, and Emotional Honesty on SLOMW

Timestamps: 29:36–32:29, 44:35–48:21

• Unfiltered Conversations: Scenes involving barbie dolls, “speaking your truth,” and apologies are praised for their vulnerability.
• Demi’s Family Backstory: New insights into Demi’s childhood with a sibling with Down syndrome shed light on her need for validation.
• Trauma Revealed: Jesse discusses uncovering a repressed memory of sexual assault; Michaela shares lingering intimacy issues. The hosts emphasize the reality and variability of coping with trauma.
  • Jenna (on Jesse’s memory): “How people manage and deal with trauma...is different from somebody else, but to just [doubt], that’s not fair.” (44:35)
  • Tamra: “People block out memories they don’t want to remember.” (45:00)

6. Season Finale and Reunion Critiques

Timestamps: 34:32–40:19

• Anti-Climax: Both express disappointment with the reunion, finding it underwhelming and overly promotional (e.g., Dunkin Donuts appearances).
  • Jenna: “I was so excited...and I was so underwhelmed.” (34:32)
• Host Comparison: Nick is deemed a stronger reunion host than Stassi for stirring necessary drama.
  • Tamra: “Nick did a better job, that’s for sure. Sorry, Stassi.” (35:41)
• Do Reunions Even Work? The limitations of SLOMW style reunions are discussed, as cast can’t discuss unfolding storylines:
  • Tamra: “I don’t think they need a reunion...they film non-stop and half the stuff they can’t even really talk about.” (36:15)

7. DadTok Diss & Relationship Dynamics

Timestamps: 29:36–32:29, 45:21–52:06

• Both express fatigue with the Dadtok spinoff and urge the focus stay on the women.
  • Jenna: “I hope they stay on the storyline of the mom talk, because I think they’ll lose a lot of women if they go too heavy in dad talk.” (45:35)
• Marciano/Jesse Scandal: Debate over the emotional vs. physical nature of infidelity, with both hosts agreeing that emotional affairs are often worse.
  • Tamra: “I think an emotional affair is way worse than just ... having a few drinks.” (48:03)
  • Jenna: “If he said he loved her, that was it for me.” (48:16)

8. Cast Reflections and Real Life vs Reality TV

Timestamps: 52:06–56:06

• Dakota’s Future: The hosts debate whether Dakota will appear next season and if he deserves a paycheck; there's hope for a redemption arc if he takes responsibility.
• Personal Toll of Reality TV: Both Tamra and Jenna speak frankly on the emotional costs of filming reality TV, especially when real life (divorce, illness) intrudes.
  • Tamra: “None of this really makes sense when you have a friend that’s going through a really hard time.... I’d rather be there with my friend than scream and yell and fight with girls on national TV.” (53:48)
  • Jenna: “What I think a lot of people forget is that this is your actual life...we come at you like you’re our favorite character, or most hated character, but...these people are going through things.” (54:02)
• Would Jenna Join Housewives? Citing thin skin, both insist they could never handle the show’s constant public scrutiny.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "You’re only as good as this week’s episode. You can be great one season, villain the next." – Tamra Judge (21:33)
• "Processed food is kind of like a reality show...it’s bad, but it’s good." – Jenna Kim Jones (13:21)
• "If your friend does [mess up your hair], it’s hard because then you’re like, well, I’m not going back to you." – Tamra Judge (23:57)
• "I always think...Taylor has had such a very strong, empowered voice this season and I do feel like Whitney has showed up in the end." – Jenna Kim Jones (31:21)
• "If he said he loved her, that was it for me." – Jenna Kim Jones (48:16)
• "None of this makes sense when you have a friend that’s going through a hard time...I’d rather be there with my friend than scream and yell and fight with girls on national TV." – Tamra Judge (53:48)

Key Episode Timestamps

| Time | Segment / Topic | |----------|-----------------------------------------------| | 03:30 | Opening chat: Parenting, holidays, and burnout| | 06:41 | Christmas traditions and family involvement | | 07:31 | Introversion and holiday socializing | | 08:54 | Sobriety & "sober curious" movement | | 13:21 | Comparison of reality TV and processed food | | 13:48 | SLOMW: Taylor/Dakota cheating fallout | | 21:33 | Demi's villain arc on reality TV | | 24:38 | Should women cut their hair at a certain age? | | 25:21 | On-camera custody & infidelity | | 29:36 | Dadtok, trauma, and therapy talk | | 34:32 | Reunion disappointment | | 35:41 | Comparing Nick and Stassi as reunion hosts | | 44:35 | Trauma revelations during reunion | | 45:35 | Dadtok vs Mom talk; keeping focus on women | | 48:03 | Emotional affair vs. Physical affair | | 53:48 | Tamra on real life vs reality TV |

Tone & Style

• Conversational, honest, and breezy—with trademark housewives sass, humor, and “tell it like it is” commentary
• Supportive & empathetic—especially toward cast members dealing with real-life trauma
• Self-aware & tongue-in-cheek—about the spectacle and manipulation of reality TV

Summary Takeaways

This episode is both a loving roast and a thoughtful critique of the SLOMW season finale and reunion. Tamra and Jenna deliver sharp observations on friendship, fame, personal boundaries, and the blurred lines between entertainment and real life. For anyone invested in the SLOMW cast, the episode is a treasure trove of inside jokes, sensitive insights, and classic "Two Ts in a Pod" banter—perfect for fans who want to keep up without watching every frame.