You Aren’t Zen! (The Valley Recap)

Summary

Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

Episode Title: You Aren’t Zen! (The Valley Recap)
Release Date: July 23, 2025
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Tamra Judge & Dolores Catania (filling in for Teddi Mellencamp)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Tamra Judge and Dolores Catania join forces to break down the season finale of "The Valley." They dive deep into the dramatic events, interpersonal conflicts, emotional reconciliations, and the ongoing fallout among the cast members. Drawing on their own Real Housewives experience, they offer behind-the-scenes insight and candid opinions about the finale’s biggest moments, cast relationships, and unresolved drama, all while keeping the banter real and unfiltered.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Security Scares and Housewives History (03:45–05:35)

• Dolores shares the shocking news about Teddi’s recent attempted robbery, emphasizing the increase in targeted break-ins among Housewives in Encino.
• Tamra recounts her own burglary experience, describing her daughter's emotional call and gratitude that their pets were unharmed.
  • "All your jewelry's gone. Because I have six dogs…they broke the sliding glass door and came in. Thank God they didn't hurt the dogs." — Tamra (04:43)
• Dolores advises blurring your house on Google Street View as an extra layer of security.

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2. The Valley Season Finale – Storylines Breakdown

a. Lala’s New Baby Visit & Brittany’s Stance on Jax (05:39–06:36)

• Recap opens with Janet, Michelle, and Brittany visiting Lala and her baby.
• Brittany refuses to let son Cruise visit Jax’s condo, worrying for his safety; Tamra and Dolores discuss custody and the merits of supervised visits.

b. Fallout Between Kristen and Janet (06:36–07:05)

• Janet reveals Kristen called her "a fan"; nobody defends Janet.
• Highlight: Lala provides a sharp retort:
  • "Cocaine addiction is expensive." — Lala (06:52)
  • "And it's a luxury you can no longer afford." — Lala (07:02)

c. Jax’s Life in the New Condo (07:34–09:13)

• The ladies discuss the look (and location) of Jax’s condo, poking fun at the flight path overhead and his child’s room.
• Tamra gets real about Jax trying too hard to impress his son:
  • "Cruz doesn't care what his room looks like. Cruz wants his dad to be sober, to be functional, present, and a good example." — Tamra (08:46)

d. Jax’s Sobriety, Recovery, and Beer Fridge (09:13–10:22)

• Jax says he’s trying, installing cameras for Brittany’s reassurance, but the co-hosts note he's not fully committed to sobriety, given the "refrigerator filled with beer."
• Dolores is skeptical about Jax’s claims of not bringing women over.

e. Jax vs. Danny – Deflection and Lack of Accountability (10:28–11:28)

• Jax criticizes Danny, shifting blame to avoid his own issues. Tamra calls out the hypocrisy:
  • "People in glass houses should not throw stones. This is it." — Tamra (11:12)

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3. Finale’s Relationship Peaks and Tensions

a. Jesse & Michelle’s Emotional Breakthrough (16:56–18:33)

• Jesse gets emotional, expressing exhaustion and regret over constant fighting. Michelle views this vulnerability as growth.
  • "He's a broken man…She lasted. She won." — Tamra (17:17)
  • "Nothing's louder than the silence of everything that's been said." — Tamra quoting Ally McBeal (18:03)
• They reflect on the difficulty of filming so soon after a painful split.

b. Kristen’s Fertility Journey (19:19–20:37)

• Kristen opens up about being labeled "infertile," experiencing a pregnancy loss, and societal shifts in family norms.
• Tamra and Dolores compare generational attitudes about motherhood, pregnancy, and the "nuclear family."

c. Benji & Zach’s Relationship Realness (22:13–23:50)

• Benji reveals his divorce is finalizing on Zach’s birthday and admits he’s still hurting, leading to an honest conversation about rebound relationships and emotional readiness.

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4. Zen Party Chaos and Finale Showdowns

a. Crystal Healing Skepticism (24:22–25:14)

• The hosts debate crystal healing—mostly with humor and skepticism.
  • "I want to take Kyle's crystal that she drops 50 times during the reunion and throw it across the room." — Tamra (24:25)
  • "It was huge. She had, like, a dildo in her hand." — Dolores (24:36)
  • "I put crystals in my water…but it looked like a penis, so I stopped using it." — Tamra (25:04)

b. Brittany & Jax Face Off (25:35–27:17)

• Brittany and Jax sit down together, with Brittany playfully roasting Jax’s appearance ("his pores are big" — 25:58) and Jax proving petty about signing divorce papers.

  • "I'm going to wait until the very last day to sign the divorce papers just because…" — Jax, as relayed by Dolores (26:49)

• Discussion of Brittany being stuck with the house and Jax’s debt; financial stress plays a prominent role.

c. Jax’s Departure from the Series (28:26–28:44)

• News breaks (surprisingly early) that Jax will not return next season; the hosts speculate it wasn’t his choice, hinting at drama during the yet-to-air reunion.

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5. Unresolved Tensions, Apologies, and Transparency

a. Janet & Nia’s Non-Resolution (29:00–29:29)

• Janet tries to apologize to Nia, but Nia wants space—seen as perhaps too little, too late.

b. Danny & Nia’s Targeted Treatment (30:26–31:46)

• Jax compares Danny to infamous criminals, which Tamra calls "a very exaggerated comparison."
• Dolores points to the cast’s visible frustration over Danny and Nia allegedly hiding issues—suggesting that lack of on-camera transparency drives cast resentment.

c. Aftermath of Accusations and Group Dynamics (37:02–42:52)

• Dolores and Tamra unpack Jax’s denial of drinking issues ("I do not have a drinking problem. I have an anger problem." — Dolores quoting Jax, 37:20) and his continued missteps.

• Claims arise of Danny being repeatedly removed from Jax’s bar for inappropriate conduct, with flashbacks to previous incidents.

• Dolores notes as cast members push too hard to "out" issues, they often become the villain in the audience’s eyes.

  • "Bravo fans are not stupid. They see through people before we see through them…Our fans, they don't fuck around." — Tamra (38:57)

d. Nia Confronts Jax (40:07–41:38)

• Nia calls out Jax for his behavior, with the hosts labeling her as an "enabler" due to her tolerance for Danny’s issues, shaped by difficult childhood experiences.

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6. Drama Escalates at the Finale Party

• Danny fires back at Jax with accusations of infidelity with his staff, escalating the confrontation.
• Kristen breaks up the argument, acting as the group’s emotional center.
• Nia is frustrated at being dragged into new rumors, worried about legal consequences for on-camera allegations.
• Janet and Jason are relieved to avoid being the center of drama "for once." (43:01)
• Tamra gets clarification about Janet "leaving the country" due to death threats—a rumor blown out of proportion.

e. Final Moments & Coupling Off (44:01–47:29)

• Jasmine cracks, "There’s not enough crystals in the world to heal this group." (44:01)
• Zach gets rowdy, threatens to end his friendship with Brittany for siding with Janet, becoming the party’s emotional MVP and earning the nickname "zigzag Zach."
• Michelle and Aaron emerge as the only happy couple amid the fireworks.
• Kristen celebrates her engagement and good karma for the year.
• Final self-deprecating jab: "Jax claims he won't be able to love another person again…oh, except for himself." — Dolores (47:16)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On security and celebrity break-ins:
  "All you have to do is contact [Google] and they'll blur your house. Because these thieves will scope out your house." — Dolores (05:05)

• On Jax’s recovery and the beer fridge:
  "Well, that's not rehab to me. That's not being in recovery." — Tamra (09:38)

• On the nuclear family and generational shifts:
  "The nuclear family… what's normal to your family… it's all relative. It doesn't have to be in this one box." — Tamra (20:37)

• On Bravo fans:
  "Bravo fans are not stupid… Our fans, they don't fuck around." — Tamra (38:57)

• On the group’s dysfunction:
  "Jasmine says there's not enough, not enough crystals in the world to heal this group." — Dolores (44:01)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Security/Robbery Stories: 03:45–05:35
• Lala, Brittany & Jax Storyline Start: 05:39
• Kristen called Janet "a fan" & Lala's comeback: 06:36–07:05
• Jax’s New Condo & Sobriety Doubts: 07:34–09:13
• Jax vs. Danny Hypocrisy: 10:28–11:28
• Jesse & Michelle Breakthrough: 16:56–18:33
• Kristen’s Fertility Conversation: 19:19–20:37
• Benji & Zach at Dinner: 22:13–23:50
• Zen Party & Crystal Skepticism: 24:22–25:14
• Brittany and Jax Face-Off: 25:35–27:17
• Jax Leaving the Show: 28:26–28:44
• Janet & Nia Apology: 29:00–29:29
• Danny & Nia Transparency Issues: 30:26–31:46
• Group Accusations Escalate: 37:02–42:52
• Nia Confronts Jax: 40:07–41:38
• Finale Party Meltdowns: 44:01–47:29

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Final Thoughts & Next Steps

• The episode closes with Tamra and Dolores expressing anticipation for the three-part "The Valley" reunion, teasing that unresolved issues and major drama are yet to play out for the audience.
• Both hosts agree the season finale delivered on drama and emotional rawness, setting the stage for an explosive reunion.

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Summary prepared for those who want all the drama, insights, and juicy quotes—without sitting through the episodes or ads.

Transcript

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Richard Sherman]

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[Teddy Mellencamp]

Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Dolores Catania]

Hey, guys. Welcome back to the episode of two T's in a Pod with myself and Dolores. Hi. Good morning. How are you?

[Tamra Judge]

Good morning. How are you? It's beautiful.

[Dolores Catania]

You got a new background today. Got a little. Got a little stone behind you.

[Tamra Judge]

Stone. That's the fireplace.

[Dolores Catania]

Did you hear that? What happened to Teddy last night? No, what? Attempted robbery at her house.

[Tamra Judge]

Stop.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm like, oh, yeah. So I guess they either attempted or did rob the house next door and then came into her backyard. But you know, her husband has a alarm company, very high tech company, so she's got the.

[Tamra Judge]

She's got the full gamut. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So the police were called out immediately and everybody is fine.

[Tamra Judge]

But did they catch them?

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know. I haven't heard yet. She's a little, you know, shook it up.

[Tamra Judge]

It's scary.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah.

[Tamra Judge]

Very, very scary.

[Dolores Catania]

So thank God she had that alarm system on the.

[Tamra Judge]

Thank God. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

You know, that whole area of Encino, so many housewives, houses have been hit, from Kyle to Kyle's daughters to Dorit to like that whole area in Encino.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

I don't know what it.

[Dolores Catania]

I would.

[Tamra Judge]

We're targets. Get out of there. Because of. I'm on tv. They stole everything.

[Dolores Catania]

You got hit too?

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah, two years ago in April. I remember it was around Mother's Day and my daughter called me. She goes, mom, I'm so sorry. Everything's gone. All your jewelry's gone. Because I have six dogs. Six dogs. So they broke the sliding glass door and came in and thank God they didn't hurt the dogs. They put all the dogs in the room.

[Dolores Catania]

Another thing that we did that is. Well, Eddie is the one that was turned onto it. But if you guys go to like realtor.com or whatever, and you're looking at the house across the can. Like, do a street view and go. Or a Google view of the house. All you have to do is contact them and they'll blur your house. Because these thieves will scope out your house. Especially if you're, like, in a gated community or something. They can't easily get in to see. Like, how can I get in? So we did that to our houses. We had them all blurred.

[Tamra Judge]

Very good. That's great advice systems and all that.

[Dolores Catania]

Kind of stuff, but that's always a good idea. It's very easy. They do it very quickly. So the Valley season finale is here. It's the end of this season for the Valley. It was good in the end.

[Tamra Judge]

Everybody started going, what? What were they waiting for? I could have used that all season.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, right. So it starts out with Janet, Michelle and Brittany go over to Lala's house to see her new baby girl.

[Tamra Judge]

Lala looks so good, as usual. The girl is like, whatever. She always looks good. She's beautiful.

[Dolores Catania]

Brittany talks about where she stands with Jax and how she's not letting Cruise go over to his condo anytime soon.

[Tamra Judge]

I'm not against that.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm not against it. I don't know if there's a court order or what, but it's. I hope she's at least letting him see a son.

[Tamra Judge]

He should be able to see his son. If it has to be supervised, I understand that, but he should be able to see him, at least. Supervised, yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

They discuss what happens between Kristen, Janet in Hawaii. I will say that when Janet tells them Kristen called her a fan, nobody took the moment to disagree or stand up for her.

[Tamra Judge]

I saw that.

[Dolores Catania]

I know Lala came in with a zinger. Cocaine addiction is expensive.

[Tamra Judge]

Is expensive, yes. And it's a luxury. You can no longer afford.

[Dolores Catania]

To drop the big line. I mean, I didn't realize. I guess cocaine is a. It's expensive, I'm assuming. So that's why it's considered more of a luxurious drug. I mean, yeah, I. I like doing.

[Tamra Judge]

I'd rather buy. Spend money on Botox or something. I don't know. What's the problem? I mean, is it the rich man's drug? I don't know. I mean, what do I know about these things? But I can tell you he can't afford it.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamra Judge]

So even if it's cheap, he can't afford it right now.

[Dolores Catania]

The boys go over to Jax's new condo, which I was impressed. The condo looked beautiful.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

It does.

[Dolores Catania]

And then I was like, he's Enjoying it. He's enjoying it. And then I love the decor, especially the tennis shoes on the kitchen counter. And I am.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

I know.

[Dolores Catania]

And I'm sure he got a hell of a deal since it's on the LAX flight path and producers were so shady to see that, you know, the airplane's flying across his house.

[Tamra Judge]

That's. It's probably Burbank.

[Dolores Catania]

It's actually Burbank. It's probably Burbank because he's in. I think he's in the Valley.

[Tamra Judge]

I know Valley.

[Dolores Catania]

So I'm not sure, you know, I'm.

[Tamra Judge]

Familiar with the Valley because when little Frankie wanted to become an actor, I spent about two hours in a. In a apartment room in the Valley until I packed my stuff and left as the larvae was hatching in the rug.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, great. That sounds wonderful.

[Tamra Judge]

That was wonderful. Studio City was amazing for the big three minutes I spent there.

[Dolores Catania]

So Jax has a room for Cruise, and that was cute. Cute little room he decorated for Cruise. Although Cruise is not that over right now.

[Tamra Judge]

You know, he's so spent on. Look what this looks like. Isn't this amazing? Cruz doesn't care what his room looks like. Cruz wants his dad to be sober, to be functional, present and, you know, a good example of what someone, you know, you should be as a human. So, yeah, Cruz isn't looking at how you decorated his room. Sorry.

[Dolores Catania]

I will give Jeff.

[Tamra Judge]

I think he's missing that. Yeah, he's trying.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. But I will give him Pops for saying he's willing to have cameras in the house so Brittany could feel comfortable.

[Tamra Judge]

Yes. Yes, he is.

[Richard Sherman]

He's.

[Tamra Judge]

Listen, for him, he's trying. I cannot take that away.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, right now he is, but later on, he ain't fucking trying anything but being an asshole.

[Tamra Judge]

But why is there beer? Why does he have a refrigerator filled with beer?

[Dolores Catania]

Because he never stopped drinking.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, that's not rehab to me. That's not being in recovery.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, we'll get to that.

[Tamra Judge]

Sister has not had a drink in 18 years, and neither has her husband. Sorry.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, if you really want to be sober and you really want to change things, if you have a drinking problem, then that's what you do, you know? So Jack's saying he would never bring a girl to his condo. I'm like, dude, you probably already have the lies. Of course he would. Didn't he have women at his house that him and Britney shared?

[Tamra Judge]

I'm gonna give him something because I have to. I can't always go say not nice things. Maybe he means when his son is There.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, maybe. Okay, we'll give him that.

[Tamra Judge]

Let's give him the benefit of some doubt, Tam. Yeah, like. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. I know. That's what he meant.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. But Jack starts talking about so many negative feelings about Danny, and I'm like.

[Tamra Judge]

Bro, chill out. You know, another thing. If you're in recovery, don't you want to mentor your friend or do you want to kick down? Well, not a part of your recovery.

[Dolores Catania]

But don't you feel like this is Jax, you know, trying to make it look like Danny's worse than him to get the heat off of him?

[Tamra Judge]

I think Jax is not totally self aware. Oh, what an actual scumbag he's been.

[Dolores Catania]

I love when you call people scumbags.

[Tamra Judge]

It comes from my gut, so I love it.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

So, sure.

[Tamra Judge]

And Jax, I gotta. I mean, I'm not saying this in a bad way to you. I don't know that. I don't think you're that well aware. And I don't think that if there was ever a time when people in glass houses should not throw stones. This is it.

[Dolores Catania]

This is it. That's for sure. And we do see Danny is trying to stop drinking. He's drinking water and lemon or whatever, but he makes a point of telling everybody.

[Tamra Judge]

Did you make it to the end of the episode? I'm just curious. That was good to kids all day and you had your gram team.

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[Dolores Catania]

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[Jenna Kim Jones]

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[Dolores Catania]

So Michelle meets Jesse at his house. This is kind of a cute scene. Something to just button up the season. Jesse gets emotional and says he is so tired of fighting with Michelle. He is. He takes accountability. He's got tears in his eyes. You know, Michelle thinks this is a huge step in the right direction.

[Tamra Judge]

I wanted this for them really bad.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, they need this.

[Tamra Judge]

He's a broken man. They're. But she doesn't seem like she's. She's strong. Let me tell you something. This girl's really strong. She doesn't go either way. This guy broke. He is done. She. She lasted. She won. But I have to say, like, I felt that. Did you not feel that when he was saying and he was like starting to rise, Like, I'm just done. And it was so raw and real.

[Dolores Catania]

No, I don't feel like it was just for camera time or him thinking, like, I will not be the next Jax Taylor. Look at my emotions. I'm crying. Deep rooted, sincere. You can tell by the look on his face.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, you know, if you've ever sat across from that person when there's just, what is it? Nothing's louder than the silence of everything that's been said, like there's nothing left.

[Dolores Catania]

You're always so full of wisdom and.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, that was from Ally McBeal that I used to watch a long time ago.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh my God, I love that show.

[Tamra Judge]

It should still be on, but so I learned most of my wisdom from Ally McBeal and my mother, but. So that's when everything is just been said. It's just there's nothing left.

[Dolores Catania]

Could you imagine though being. Well, you kind of were, but there was some time distance between it. But literally just splitting up with your wife, that you've. That you're allegedly was cheating on you and then you got to film a TV show together like five months later. Yeah, that cannot be easy. Those are like some seriously raw emotions.

[Tamra Judge]

No, it's. It's not easy. And then you. Because you're. You're at a vulnerable stage, you go through these things and you do things, Tamra, that if you were maybe in your right state of mind, you wouldn't have said or done. So now you're. But now the whole world sees it like you're every fuck up during that time, which is the most time of fuck ups. When you're going through a bad breakup.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamra Judge]

Like. Yeah, I get it. You're right.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Kristen meets at Brittany's house. Kristen talks about her fertility appointment. She was told she was infertile though. She got pregnant a year ago. And she talks about, you know, at a certain age a woman is considered like geriatric and infertile and all these words, you know, for, you know, a lot of women right now are not getting pregnant till they're 40. You know, back in my day, like by choice though.

[Tamra Judge]

By choice, right.

[Dolores Catania]

By choice. Yeah.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Back in my day, you know, I was pregnant at 17 and I don't recommend that either.

[Tamra Judge]

No, no. Was it, is it just us or was there less infertility issues when we were young?

[Dolores Catania]

I just think that we just didn't have the medical advancements that we have now and know the things we know now.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

And I think, you know, women are now starting to get pregnant and starting their lives. They want their careers first and then.

[Tamra Judge]

They'Re able to control things.

[Dolores Catania]

They're able to control it. And you know, back in our day, it was. Mine was like a 50s housewife. I. My mom got married at 16, I think.

[Tamra Judge]

Mine too. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

My. I got married at 18.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Because I was pregnant. And you stayed home and you took care of kids and all. I mean, of course everything's changed now.

[Tamra Judge]

The nuclear family. I'll tell you what's wrong with it. I mean, I feel like the normal family is what's normal to your family. The nuclear family is what is norm. Nuclear to your family. It's all relative. It doesn't have to be in this one box. It's okay to be. Whatever happens, life happens. Right. There's no shame in it. And I feel bad for her because she's going through so much here. Like, they do go through their stuff on this show. It's like.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, well, I mean, look at them now. They. She just had a beautiful girl.

[Tamra Judge]

He's lovely.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I like him. I like. I like them as a couple. I think they're solid. I think she's really good tv.

[Tamra Judge]

She's always been. Yeah, she's always been. And she made a good choice in the end. I mean, she had her share of. She had a kind of a high body count. No.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, yeah. And. And she was let go of Vanderpump Rules as well. And I think that was brought in to the show. Dolores. High body count that was brought in the show. And she was accused of racism, you know, on the sub. On the episodes. And I'm like, okay. She has moved forward, and she's doing a great job. And she's doing a great job.

[Tamra Judge]

I love the comeback. I love to see her with someone who, you know, when. The end. At the end of the day, she just didn't settle for a jerk. She picked a really nice guy.

[Dolores Catania]

Really nice guy.

[Tamra Judge]

She was at a time in her life where she wanted this. She wanted something. She wanted to get pregnant. And she. She was smart enough to make a very good choice in the person she chose to do that with.

[Dolores Catania]

So, yeah, so we got to see Benji say more than two words in an episode. So Benji and Zach go to dinner. Benji's divorce will be finalized on Zach's birthday. What a great birthday present.

[Tamra Judge]

Happy birthday.

[Dolores Catania]

But Benji opens up and he's like. He's very quiet, and he's like, I didn't want to get divorced. He was very hurt. Worse. And I could see that maybe still in love with his ex. Right? I know. I mean, poor Benji's, like, opening and opening up about not wanting to divorce. Nor did he want to talk about Zach's screw talks.

[Tamra Judge]

He's. At least he's being honest. That's number one. Benji's not a liar. Benji. But I don't know if Zach knows this, but it's not a good place for him to be in love with someone who Possibly isn't. Or their last person. It doesn't.

[Dolores Catania]

Typically, it's called a rebound relationship. Yeah. So you know what they say.

[Tamra Judge]

To get over somebody, you gotta get on top.

[Dolores Catania]

You gotta get under somebody or on top.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah. But, yeah, no, like, I'm. I mean, I feel like. I feel a little bad for both of them right now. Zach wants this really bad. Benji likes him. Benji's very much, like, cares for him and knows that Zach's into him, which is nice. Right after you come out of a relationship with someone who didn't want you. And let's see. I hope that everything that settles. And they hurt each other at the end.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like Zach has become MVP of the season. I started off being kind of annoyed with him, but he has turned into one of my favorites on the show. He gets a little wild at the end of the episode, but I'm here for it. I'm here for it. Everyone arrives to Michelle's Zen party. Would you want to go to a Zen party?

[Tamra Judge]

I. I'd want to go to any party right now. I don't know.

[Dolores Catania]

Any party. Okay.

[Tamra Judge]

I. I'm not, like, the crystals thing, it was, like. It was a nice concept.

[Dolores Catania]

Do you believe in crystals?

[Tamra Judge]

I don't disbelieve in anything. I just don't know enough about them. Like, I want to take Kyle's crystal that she drops 50 times during the reunion and throw it across the room.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, it was huge. She had, like, a dildo in her hand.

[Tamra Judge]

I know.

[Dolores Catania]

It was like a crystal.

[Tamra Judge]

It was like a pocket rocket. It was so big.

[Dolores Catania]

It was a lipstick.

[Tamra Judge]

No, but, like, what did she do? Like, I mean, I'm sure it's. Is it the size of the crystal that matters, or.

[Dolores Catania]

It's how they use it? I'm with you on this kind of stuff. I don't disagree. I don't agree. I'm here for it.

[Tamra Judge]

I love it. If it works, it works. It works. I put crystals in my water. I had a water bottle. I bought a crystal in it, but it looked like a penis, so I stopped using it.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, Jax, he didn't believe it. He says, I don't believe any of this shit.

[Tamra Judge]

It's all, you better find something to believe in, bro. Maybe if you say, you better find Jesus something. If you believe in something, what. What it is you find that makes you believe in something, because you better find it. Yeah, you need. You need a conscience. You need something to answer to.

[Dolores Catania]

You know, it's a season finale when the exes sit down and talk. So first we had Michelle and Jess. Now we're having Britney and Jax. They agree to sit down. Brittany makes fun of Jax's pores, his greasy face. She had me laughing. I think when you're sitting across from somebody that you've been in a relationship with and you're like, his pores are big.

[Tamra Judge]

You see them through different eyes.

[Dolores Catania]

His nostrils too large, that one tooth.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, listen, she ain't doing too bad. I saw what she's been hitting lately. And I mean, Jax is a good looking. By the way, Jax is a good looking guy.

[Dolores Catania]

He is a good looking guy.

[Tamra Judge]

I find him to be.

[Dolores Catania]

But you know what? His personality, he doesn't act. Yeah, your personality could really make you ugly.

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, and yes, of course, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

But it. I was rolling when she was making fun of his greasy face and I don't know, maybe I just love that humor. I would probably do that. Absolutely. Jax tells Brittany he's going to wait until the very last day to sign the divorce papers just because. Just because he wants to piss because off.

[Tamra Judge]

Just because you said I had big pores.

[Dolores Catania]

It's like, dude, you're just, you know, you're a dick.

[Tamra Judge]

I don't think that they are in that place yet to be able to sit down and make any sense of anything. They're way too emotional to make any sense. Like it took Jesse and Michelle a whole season to come to their senses and say, let's call it truce. And there is no way that Jax and Britney is even. Tamara, they're not even close.

[Dolores Catania]

No, no, I'm close. But the one thing that I totally want to take Brittany and shake her is get rid of that house. Jackson pay the mortgage for seven months. He didn't pay his taxes for seven years. She has an additional over $1 million on that mortgage paying off his old taxes. Why would you want to stay in that house?

[Tamra Judge]

She have to have. Is she responsible? Is she responsible? Well, I guess it could be upside down, Tam, if. If they didn't pay the mortgage, sell it and owe money on it.

[Dolores Catania]

Short sell it. I don't give a. You want his debt? No way.

[Tamra Judge]

Got it.

[Dolores Catania]

That's just a stupid move.

[Tamra Judge]

There's somebody she could talk to about that.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, short sell. Do what you have to do. I don't know what year they bought it, but you know it's not worth it. You have like a $17,000 house payment. You're a single mom.

[Tamra Judge]

No, you and I, we don't even. We lose sleep over these Things, Yeah. I lose sleep for them. I'm. I'm like, watch. And I'm like, how do you come out of it? How do you catch up? Like, it's just crazy to me. It's crazy. I don't want to knock on wood. I cannot. The stress of that. The stress.

[Dolores Catania]

Now we know that Jax is going to be no longer on the show, which I'm surprised they announced prior to even the reunion airing. I don't know why someone chose to do that.

[Tamra Judge]

They don't ever do that.

[Dolores Catania]

They don't ever do it. I gotta believe it's not his choice. It's not his choice.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

He's.

[Dolores Catania]

He's.

[Tamra Judge]

Did something happen?

[Dolores Catania]

Maybe something at the reunion happened. I don't know.

[Tamra Judge]

That's why I'm excited.

[Dolores Catania]

So there is a three part reunion trailer just came out, huh? I don't know.

[Tamra Judge]

Three parts.

[Dolores Catania]

I know. Well, Janet goes up to Nia to apologize for the words she used on the boat. Nia just wants space from Janet. Now I have.

[Tamra Judge]

I understand that Janet's been hosing her since the beginning of the season, but.

[Dolores Catania]

At least Janet's trying. She's trying. And you know, it's a season finale.

[Tamra Judge]

She's trying because it's the season finale and they want to come back. They want to make resolution and come back.

[Dolores Catania]

Right. I'll give her that. But it was kind of maybe too late.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, and you know, yeah, you're right. It's too late. You don't wait until the end. You don't have to drag them through the mud until the very last five minutes of the finale. Right. When the producers probably say, well, guys, we're almost done filming, so you might want to do something. No, I'm kidding.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Well, Jesse is open and raw and tells Kristen Luke about his financial struggles, what he's going through as a single dad. And I feel sorry for him. I do feel sorry for him.

[Tamra Judge]

I do. He'll.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm gonna tell you, like you said, he's a smart guy.

[Tamra Judge]

He's very smart. He's got a lot going for him. He has the ability to come out of this. And now maybe if things are calm in his relationship with Michelle instead of all this hate back and forth, then maybe he'll be able to think clear enough to get himself out of the mess that he's in.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

Now, what were your thoughts when Jack compares Danny to Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted Bundy?

[Tamra Judge]

You know, this whole season, I've actually had the opinion that they're very hard on Danny. And Nia, very, very hard on them.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamra Judge]

And I think, of course, that's a very exaggerated comparison.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, you think?

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah, you know, I mean, come on. But they. What, what's the huge dislike for those that couple? Like, they're not. I don't look at them as horrible people. I think they're very kind. Even when people are coming at them, they don't go at them like animals, like I would do.

[Dolores Catania]

Like I don't understand it and I don't know if there's some stuff, you.

[Tamra Judge]

Know, that what I'm saying.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, there's a lot of talk about his, you know, his drinking and some call him alcoholic, some said he's crossed lines multiple times and his wife knows about it and they're keeping a secret. I know for a fact, you know, when somebody is keeping secrets like that and you. The whole entire cast sees it, but yet production isn't getting it on camera. It's frustrating.

[Tamra Judge]

That's. I'm feeling like. I was just gonna say I'm feeling like that's what it is. I'm feeling like. The cast is now frustrated with their lack of transparency because, you know, on our shows you don't get away with that shit.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

No.

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[Dolores Catania]

So Danny's on a seventh water with lemon as Jax goes and walks up to him. Jax claims he doesn't have a drinking problem. He hasn't.

[Tamra Judge]

Oh, it's the anger that makes him crack. That's like, do my pants look fat?

[Jenna Kim Jones]

No.

[Tamra Judge]

Does my ass look fat in these pants?

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Right? No, it's the pants that are fat.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, the play on like the switching the words is like, dude, Wait, why?

[Tamra Judge]

He's not taking accountability. He will not evolve. I don't see a lot of help here.

[Dolores Catania]

But just to hear him say, I do not have a drinking problem. I have an anger problem. And maybe an alleged cocaine problem too. He forgot to throw that one in.

[Tamra Judge]

Listen, it's the anger that makes him do everything. So this guy's got a. This guy's got a problem, period.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, a big one. He says Danny and Nia are trying too hard to pretend like they are perfect.

[Tamra Judge]

Well, that's annoying.

[Dolores Catania]

It is annoying if it's true. Jax claims that Danny has been reported out of his bar twice for touching girls inappropriately. Now let's go back to. The first person he touched inappropriately was Jasmine's girlfriend, Right?

[Tamra Judge]

I thought it was Jasmine.

[Dolores Catania]

Was it Jasmine or Jasmine's girlfriend?

[Tamra Judge]

It was Jasmine. It was Jasmine. And then the girlfriend didn't like it. And then the girlfriend. It was a whole.

[Dolores Catania]

It was Jasmine, then the girlfriend.

[Tamra Judge]

Yeah. Oh, boy. Oh, he's not learning his lesson. This guy's got a problem. I do believe he's got a problem. Listen, you know what? Janet called.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. And that's. That's the thing. And I've been guilty of this before. When you know that there is something going on and you want that person, you want it out there so bad because they're hiding it and acting like.

[Tamra Judge]

Nothing was hidden in your life.

[Dolores Catania]

You look like the asshole. You look the asshole. Sometimes you have to just let things naturally come out.

[Tamra Judge]

And they do. The dirty laundry comes out in the wash. It is going to come out. Because you know what? Bravo fans are not stupid. They're so smart. They see through people before we see through them. I know they're not even in front of them. They're watching them on tv. But our fans, they don't fuck around. I don't want to cross a Bravo fan.

[Dolores Catania]

Just recently, I don't know if it was with you or with Teddy. We're recapping the Valley and I was talking about Janet, I believe, and I said, listen, a lot of us have been guilty. I've been guilty of creating drama and doing these things in the past, but it always bites you in the ass. All of a sudden these bottom feeder bloggers come out. Oh, Tamara. Tamara admits that she creates drugs. I'm like, that's not what I said. I was forthcoming, saying, like a lot of us would, you know, exaggerate in scenes that you probably wouldn't do in normal life. But, you know, you learn your lesson. I've been, I've been at this game for many, many years. Like, I learned my lesson a long time.

[Tamra Judge]

You've lost it a long, long time for a reason. Yes.

[Dolores Catania]

Leave me the alone. Nia joins the conversation and Jack says, she, she's Miss America. She's missing.

[Tamra Judge]

Why is Jax going after her? This girl doesn't even swear.

[Dolores Catania]

Boundaries. And I guess that's the wrong chair.

[Tamra Judge]

When somebody's coming after you, why are you going to be mean to this girl? She's got enough on her plate. She's got three under three or four under five. I don't know what the 10 under seven. It's like some mass of a thing.

[Dolores Catania]

But Nia, I have to give it to her. She got involved. She says, like, I almost hit Jax. I think, driving in her car while he was stumbling drunk. Jack says, she makes shit up. And I'm like, you know what? Nobody's believing you. Jax over Nia. It's just not happening. It's just not happening.

[Tamra Judge]

I think Nia is a, what do you call it? When somebody doesn't help the person they with, they enable. She's an enabler. Yeah, I think she's an enabler.

[Dolores Catania]

We learned a lot about her life and growing up and we did that.

[Tamra Judge]

You don't come out of that unscathed. I think for the most Part coming from that. And I'm so sorry that she had to go through that as a child, that it's a lot of the reason she's tolerating what she is tolerating. And. And she wants that family in that unit so badly. She doesn't want to rock that boat. And Danny better get his shit together.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I. I'm.

[Tamra Judge]

And I waited this whole minute stop for them because I gave Danny the benefit of the doubt out.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, well, Kristen to the rescue. She comes and breaks up the argument. And Jack, she's like the mom of.

[Tamra Judge]

The group, by the way.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, she is. She really is.

[Tamra Judge]

She's so gonna be an amazing mother.

[Dolores Catania]

Danny claims Jax allegedly sleeps with his staff. Shocker.

[Tamra Judge]

Shocker. Oh, Danny, you really. You really hit him below the belt on.

[Dolores Catania]

I know. Well, you know this old saying, don't fish off the company pond. Like, look what just happened to those. That CEO that was at the Coldplay concert, they got fired.

[Tamra Judge]

Look, it's so amateur. Like, you couldn't just be like, take his arm and, like, start dancing. No, you, like, you killed yourselves.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, the way they docked. Everything is so funny. So funny. Like, could you imagine? Oh, God. Neo reminds Danny that the entire conversation was on camera. And she seems pissed about it. So she's pissed because Danny says Jack sleeps with a staff now. I don't know why she's telling. Like, shut up. It's on camera. Is it news that hasn't been out? And she's like, doesn't want to be starting rumors.

[Tamra Judge]

You know, we can make up a story right now. You know what the story is going to be? Is he going to get in trouble? Is he in trouble for sleeping with someone? Is he getting blamed. Is there charges against him that they had to let him?

[Dolores Catania]

Like, this could be, like, a legal issue. That could be a legal. Well, Janet and Jason find out. Yeah, we're going to find out. Janet and Jason were sitting in the corner during this fight. Like, thank you, Jesus with the popcorn. It wasn't us. For once. She's like, yeah, I'm going to end this season.

[Tamra Judge]

Good. What? Wait, I have to ask you something real quick. What's going on where she had to move out of the country because she's getting death threats. Like, what's that all about?

[Dolores Catania]

No, I.

[Tamra Judge]

She.

[Dolores Catania]

So she was getting death threats. She turned her comments or made her account private or something like that. And she had already planned a trip to go wherever she was at. I don't remember where it was, but she already had. Already had planned that trip. So she was just going on a family trip so people think she had to. You know how these bloggers.

[Tamra Judge]

I know. I thought that was a little much. All right.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

Leave the country because of social media, death threats and things like that.

[Tamra Judge]

Thank you for clearing that up for me.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

So Jasmine says there's enough. Not enough crystals in the world to heal this group group. Sheena's upset at Zach and Kristen for alleging that she brought Jenna into the group to hurt Michelle. Now, this conversation came out of left field.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Sound.

[Dolores Catania]

Left field.

[Tamra Judge]

Like, what?

[Dolores Catania]

We. Wait, were we talking about that anymore? And Kristen and Zach claim that Janet is the ringleader behind all the drama. Well, we know that, you know, every show needs their villain.

[Tamra Judge]

Not a lot of revelation going on here.

[Dolores Catania]

By the way, guys, Zach is on fire. He's maybe a little tipsy. He's ready to fight. He threatens to end his friendship with Britney if she sticks up for Janet again. And he was. He was not having it. Not having it at all.

[Tamra Judge]

Love makes you do crazy things. Love gives you that big D energy.

[Dolores Catania]

He's a little dick energy.

[Tamra Judge]

So he's. Yeah, but he's been a good friend to Britney.

[Dolores Catania]

He has.

[Tamra Judge]

And I think it's been a very, very good friend to her.

[Dolores Catania]

He's sick of it. He's like, I'm doing for you. Had enough. Like, give me some back.

[Tamra Judge]

And you know when somebody meets somebody and, you know, they have some pillow talk, and then that person starts saying, you know, like, you're more of a friend to that person than they are to you, and then all these things get in your head from the new person in your life. You know what I'm saying? Of course. This is all, like conspiracy theories that we talk about, right? Like, we make up.

[Dolores Catania]

We're not educated.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Just.

[Dolores Catania]

Meanwhile, Kristen and Janet are at each other's throat. Kristen says she wouldn't care if someone told her she was a and threatened to beat her up. Do you think it would bother Kristen if someone said that about her? I guess it depends on who said it.

[Tamra Judge]

I don't think Kristen would take that lightly at all from anyone ever. Kristen, she's like, you know, she don't put up with shit.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, she admits. She goes, I say, colorful, Colorful when I'm mad. And all I could say was, same girl, same. I get it, I get it.

[Tamra Judge]

Same girl, same. And then you feel like, a little bit stupid, and you say, I. I meant what I said, but I wish I said it more. I articulated it like, more classic, classy.

[Dolores Catania]

But I ain't classy.

[Orangetheory Fitness Announcer]

Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

Zach calls Janet a as Jason and her were leaving and then they come back. Then Zach yells at Brittany because he wants her support. Zach was just losing his like, I'm like, stop it, stop it. We were all here for you. Just stop it. So Zach's drunk name now is being zigzag Zach because he's all over the place when he gets drunk. He's just everywhere. So fireworks go off and Michelle and Aaron are the only happily couple. They're just holding each other, looking at each other.

[Tamra Judge]

They really love each other, don't they?

[Dolores Catania]

Really do love each other. Benji consoles Zach. He consoles him. It's all right. We'll get through this together. Kristen shows her engagement ring and says she's had great karma this year. Jasmine bought an engagement ring for Melissa.

[Tamra Judge]

Nice fighting. And Jack for them.

[Dolores Catania]

Yep. And Jax claims he won't be able to love another person again. Oh, except for himself. Except. And that's all you have it.

[Tamra Judge]

That's it.

[Dolores Catania]

That's a wrap season finale. Now there is a three part reunion.

[Tamra Judge]

I'm looking forward to it.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, so that's coming out next week and we're going to cover that as well.

[Tamra Judge]

So. Sounds interesting.

[Dolores Catania]

So we're not done with the Valley. All right, Dolores, you have a good day.

[Tamra Judge]

Love you all.

[Dolores Catania]

Bye. Okay, bye.

[Richard Sherman]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[Tamra Judge]

All.

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[Richard Sherman]

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[Richard Sherman]

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[Richard Sherman]

That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime.

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[Richard Sherman]

Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an.

[Dolores Catania]

Ice cold Coca Cola.

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[Richard Sherman]

No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work.

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[Dolores Catania]

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