Your Boyfriend’s A Hater (Summer House Recap)

Summary

Two T's in a Pod with Dolores Catania and Tamara Judge Episode: Your Boyfriend’s A Hater (Summer House Recap)
Release Date: March 29, 2025

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Addressing the Criticism: Bethenny Frankel's Remarks

In the opening segment, hosts Dolores Catania and Tamara Judge tackle recent criticisms from Bethenny Frankel aimed at the Housewives franchise. Dolores highlights the backlash received from their listeners, stating, “I've had many people slide into my DMs and say, I believe I agree with Bethany. She should go after Teresa. I said we weren't talking about Theresa” (00:58). Tamara counters by pointing out Bethenny's own financial success, emphasizing the hypocrisy in her remarks: “...she sold her company for millions. It went back to Housewives. So if she's saying you only go on Housewives if you're broke... then she's being hypocritical” (01:38).

The duo passionately defends the Housewives, highlighting their contributions and the platform the show provides. Tamara adds, “Bethany, don't forget where you come from... She just says these snarky remarks. Wait. And hopes it's funny” (02:21). They urge listeners not to be swayed by misleading headlines, encouraging them to engage directly with their content for accurate context.

Summer House Season 9, Episode 7 Recap

Transitioning seamlessly, Dolores and Tamara dive into a detailed recap of Summer House Season 9, Episode 7, titled Your Boyfriend’s A Hater. They express excitement about the episode's dramatic developments, stating, “We have so much to say about this... What a good episode” (04:17).

Relationship Dynamics and Conflicts

• Paige and Craig's Strain: The hosts discuss the tension between Paige and Craig, highlighting Paige's dedication to her career and Craig's perception of her podcast tour as a personal battle. Tamara notes, “It's war, because she's probably not coming back” (04:45), suggesting Craig feels overshadowed by Paige’s professional commitments.

• Jesse's Attempts to Mend Ties: Jesse's efforts to reconcile the relationship between Sarah and West are scrutinized. Tamara describes Jesse as “a dog slithering... He's coming to fix everything” (06:26), portraying him negatively and questioning his sincerity and maturity, especially in light of his personal struggles.

• Lindsay's Transformation: Lindsay’s journey to cleanse her living space from negative vibes is discussed, with Dolores pointing out her growth: “She has a little bit more mature than most of them” (18:19). The hosts speculate about her potential move to Real Housewives of New York, praising her readiness for such a platform.

Business Betrayals and Apologies

A significant portion of the episode centers on the fallout between Jesse and Craig over promotional deals for Jesse's "lover boy" product. Tamara reflects on the heated exchange: “Craig will not apologize for taking the deal with a competitor. You have to pick your battles” (14:10). The conversation escalates when Kyle accuses Craig of undermining his business, leading to Kyle’s outburst: “That was bad” (15:08). However, Dolores acknowledges Kyle’s growth, commending his apology: “it was a sincere apology. He wants to do better” (15:20).

Sierra's Controversial Moves

Sierra's actions at the party become a focal point of drama. The hosts express frustration over her flirtatious behavior with Jesse, questioning her intentions and its impact on her relationship with West. Tamara emphasizes the awkwardness of Sierra’s interactions: “Sierra rides or dies for all of them... She's kind of leaning into it a little more for my taste” (16:22). The tension crescendos when Jesse is caught on camera exhibiting inappropriate behavior, leading to widespread disapproval from the hosts.

Emerald's Night Out and Jesse’s Misconduct

Emerald’s late-night escapades introduce further chaos. Dolores recounts, “Emerald brings back two girls tonight. Not one, but two” (33:47), highlighting Jesse’s questionable interactions, including toe-licking incidents that leave the hosts appalled. Tamara critiques Jesse’s immaturity: “Jesse needs help... It’s not how you do it” (24:36), emphasizing the negative influence of excessive partying and irresponsible behavior on the show.

Anticipation for Future Episodes

As the episode wraps up, Dolores and Tamara express their keen interest in upcoming storylines, particularly focusing on potential confrontations between Wes and Jesse, as well as Lexi’s return. They anticipate further revelations about Sierra’s motives and Jesse’s true intentions, stating, “We have so much to see how it unfolds, so I'm excited” (40:06).

Conclusion

Your Boyfriend’s A Hater (Summer House Recap) offers a comprehensive and engaging analysis of the latest Summer House episode, blending sharp critiques with insightful observations. Dolores and Tamara adeptly navigate the intricate web of relationships and conflicts, providing listeners with a thorough understanding of the show's current dynamics. Their passionate discourse, punctuated with memorable quotes, ensures that both dedicated fans and newcomers gain valuable perspectives on the unfolding drama.

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Notable Quotes:

• Dolores: “I've had many people slide into my DMs and say, I believe I agree with Bethany. She should go after Teresa.” (00:58)

• Tamara: “Bethany, don't forget where you come from... She just says these snarky remarks.” (02:21)

• Tamara: “It's war, because she's probably not coming back.” (04:45)

• Tamara: “Craig will not apologize for taking the deal with a competitor.” (14:10)

• Tamara: “Jesse needs help... It’s not how you do it.” (24:36)

• Dolores: “He is growing Kyle.” (15:17)

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This summary omits ad segments and focuses solely on the hosts' discussions and the Summer House recap.

Transcript

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Tamara Judge.

[Tamara Judge]

Hey, guys.

[Dolores Catania]

Welcome back to another episode of Two T's in a Pod with myself and Dolores. Good morning, Dolores. Good morning. Good morning. We have something to talk about.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

Okay. So we. I think. I don't know. A couple days ago, we talked about how Bethany was saying things like Jersey was a dumpster trash bin or something like that. That. What else was she saying?

[Tamara Judge]

You only go on if you have no money.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes. And once you get established, you should get off. Well, Page Six do better because they came out with a headline saying, dolores and Tamara blast Bethenny Frankel for criticizing Teresa's money woes.

[Tamara Judge]

That's not even what Theresa address number one. That's not. That had nothing to do with it.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes, we get it.

[Tamara Judge]

And they know that. Page Six knows exactly what we were saying.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes. But also, I've had many people slide into my DMs and say, I believe I agree with Bethany. She should go after Teresa. I said we weren't talking about Theresa.

[Tamara Judge]

People just grab onto something and they're like, I'm going to go with this, and then they're going to follow what everybody else without even listening. Before you speak, look at what you're saying.

[Dolores Catania]

Right.

[Tamara Judge]

All we were saying was she trashed the whole cast of New Jersey. No one's ever even spoken a word about Bethany out of our mouths. It wasn't accurate what she said. I echo.

[Dolores Catania]

No, it's not accurate because I'm sorry to interrupt you, but she sold her company for millions. It went back to Housewives. So if she's saying you only go on Housewives if you're broke, and then once you establish yourself, get the hell off. Well, then she's. That's. That's hypocritical to say.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, that's all we were saying, is that she was being hypocritical by saying, you know, make your money and run. And then she went back on after she made her money and then knocks the very platform every day that made her where she is. Remember when she was on Andy, a friend of mine brought this up and she was like, thank you, Andy. I wouldn't have gotten anywhere. I'd be still living in an apartment, a one bedroom apartment, if it wasn't for this show.

[Dolores Catania]

Right.

[Tamara Judge]

So Bethany, don't forget where you come from. And all I ever hear out of her mouth is knocking other women. All she does is knock people. I've never heard her say, hey, great job, Bose. You're doing an excellent job as a new housewife. I don't hear her rally for anybody. She just says these snarky remarks. Wait. And hopes it's funny.

[Dolores Catania]

I was just absolutely shocked when the clip was posted and everyone started going, talking about Teresa. I'm like, this has nothing to do with Teresa. Why are you guys saying that? Where in this do you hear the words that we're talking about Theresa?

[Tamara Judge]

The whole point of it, as Jen Fessler said, was our show is not a trash bin. And, you know, I don't know why. I think I know why. I don't know why the Housewives of New York let her trash them the way that she does. They don't speak up at all.

[Dolores Catania]

That's right. Now you remind me. This. Actually, this conversation came from Jen Fessler's story.

[Tamara Judge]

It came from Jen Fessler's story saying, excuse me.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Not about Theresa's financial advice.

[Tamara Judge]

I wasn't broke.

[Dolores Catania]

Right.

[Tamara Judge]

I wasn't broke when I came on the show. It was a wonderful journey for me, as it sure was for you. Making all this money, and all you do is talk about it. She's reliving old Roni episodes. She talks about them recently. Criticize us all you want. I know what I said. I don't take it back, but I had every right to say that. Yeah, I had every right.

[Dolores Catania]

You did. And if you guys. If you're just reading a headline, don't read the headline. Go to the actual episode on two T's in a Pod and listen to what we actually said.

[Tamara Judge]

Exactly.

[Dolores Catania]

Enough of her. We're going to recap Summer House Season 9, Episode 7 now.

[Tamara Judge]

What a good episode.

[Dolores Catania]

I have so much to say about this. The Pirate Party continues. We pick back up with Paige and Craig talking about making the relationship a priority. In her confessional, Paige jokes that Craig's treating this podcast tour like she's going to war. I know she loves Craig, but she's worked her whole life to get to her point in her career.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, for him. I don't mean to interrupt, but it is war, because she's probably not coming back.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. I think in his mind, he knows she's not coming back to this relationship after this tour is over.

[Tamara Judge]

It is a war to him. Good, good. Yeah, it's a good analogy.

[Dolores Catania]

Did you see that?

[Tamara Judge]

Whatever you want to see.

[Dolores Catania]

That shirt she was wearing, the white T shirt and a confessional with that silver. I've seen that pinching her boob. Is that like a new. I mean, she wears very high designer stuff. One time there's an Instagram account, big blond hair. And she breaks down how much our clothes. I love her. And one of her dresses was like $10,000. I'm like, holy shit.

[Tamara Judge]

So she got it from Farfetch.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh.

[Tamara Judge]

And it is a high end top. Yeah. And it comes in a dress.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm going to have to go on Farfetch. And you want it? No, I don't want it. I just, I always want to know.

[Tamara Judge]

Like, well, how much was that big blonde hair? You know is going to post it.

[Dolores Catania]

I know. I think she did think she does that Lauren girl. I love her. So Kyle butts. She is. Kyle butts into their conversation to have his own talk with Craig. Paige seems happy to leave. And Jesse's trying to mend the relationship between Sarah and West, which isn't going very well, but really is he. I feel like not. I feel like he's trying to swoop in.

[Tamara Judge]

He's a dog slithering. He's a snake. I like dogs too much. He's slithering over. He's coming to the wounded, literal bird. She's a little wounded bird with her little outfit on, with her little broken heart. And he's coming over to fix everything. You know those guys. He's a hawk. Jesse Prey is right there.

[Dolores Catania]

Jesse was slimy this episode. He was a slimy.

[Tamara Judge]

Let me tell you, in my neighborhood, Jesse would. Jesse Solomon's teeth would be no longer. Whether west likes Sierra. Whether west.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh my God.

[Tamara Judge]

And you know, pissed off at Sierra. Jesse would be in trouble.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. He's just, he, he cannot be trusted. And he's like a little horn dog. And him saying that he was going to be on his best behavior around all these vaginas. I'm like, really, dude? That's how you think? How old are you? He's not an 18 year old boy that's humping the arms of couches.

[Tamara Judge]

Okay. He's 31. So at 31, I always say, and I'll say this again, you are a man is who he is. By the time he's 18, that's it. At 31, if he's acting like this, he is not going to calm down until his mid-50s. I say, unless somebody rails them in. Unless he meets his match, someone just like him.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, he'll be the next chef.

[Tamara Judge]

And they're out there.

[Dolores Catania]

Be the next Chef.

[Tamara Judge]

They are out there.

[Larison Campbell]

There's a type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo clay. It's thick, burnt orange and it's got a reputation.

[Selena Gomez]

It's terrible, terrible dirt.

[Larison Campbell]

Yazoo clay eats everything. So things that get buried there tend to stay buried until they're not. In 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery.

[Tamara Judge]

7,000 bodies out there or more, all.

[Larison Campbell]

Former patients of the old state asylum. And nobody knew they were there.

[Tamara Judge]

It was my family's mystery.

[Larison Campbell]

But in this corner of the south, it's not just the soil that keeps secrets.

[Dolores Catania]

Nobody talks about it. Nobody has any information.

[Larison Campbell]

When you peel back the layers of Mississippi's Yazoo clay, nothing's ever as simple as you think.

[Dolores Catania]

The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that.

[Larison Campbell]

I'm Larison Campbell. Listen to under yazukle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is this a good time? It's me, Dylan Mulvaney, and my dear friend Joe Locke from Heartstopper. And Agatha all along is my very first guest on my brand new podcast, the Dylan Hour. It's musical mayhem and it is going to be so much fun. I like a man. You like a man. What do I like, Joe? You like a man too. We often. There's quite similar. There's some cross pollination happening in here. Not like.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Have we? No. No, not yet. Never say never. I cannot wait for all you girls, gays and they's to join me on this extremely special pink confection of a podcast. There is so much darkness in this world and what I think we could all use more of is a little joy. Listen to the Dylan hour on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Love ya.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, you're listening to On Purpose with Jay Shetty. And today my guests are none other than Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco. I can't wait for you to hear this episode about their love story, about their relationship like you've never heard it before. I want to go back to the first time you ever met.

[Tamara Judge]

Thank you so much for this.

[Dolores Catania]

One of the great.

[Tamara Judge]

Thank you.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm Selena. But we're watching Disney Field.

[Benny Blanco]

When you're a pop star like she is and you're a huge entity and people set up all these walls before and then the first second, you, like, disarmed everybody.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

By the way, congratulations on your engagement.

[Selena Gomez]

What I felt for Benny, it was everything about him was honest. He'll tell me anything that he's feeling, and it made me feel like I could do the same.

[Benny Blanco]

If we would have met each other when we were younger, it would have never worked.

[Jay Shetty]

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jen Swan]

Imagine you're scrolling through TikTok. You come across a video of a teenage girl and then a photo of the person suspected of killing her.

[Unnamed Speaker]

And I was like, what? Like it was him. I was like, oh my God. It was shocking. It was very shocking.

[Jen Swan]

I'm Jen Swan. I'm a journalist in Los Angeles, and I've spent the past few years investigating the story behind the viral posts and the extraordinary events that followed.

[Tamara Judge]

I started investing my time to get her justice.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

They put out something on social media.

[Dolores Catania]

So I'd get called in the middle of the night all the time.

[Unnamed Speaker]

It's like, how do you think you're going to get away with something like this? Like you killed somebody.

[Jen Swan]

It's the story of how and why a group of teenagers turned to social media to help track down their friend's killer. This is their story. This is my friend Daisy. Listen to my friend daisy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unnamed Speaker]

My husband cheated on me with two women. He wants to stay together because he has cancer. Should I stay? Sam, that has to be the craziest story in ok, Storytime podcast history. Well, John, that's because it's dumping week and this user writes, my partner told me when we first got together that he has cancer. He's currently living with his mom while he is in recovery, so that it takes the pressure off me caring for both him and her baby until he's well enough to move into our new home with us. Good so far? Well, last week we had attempted break in. I asked my husband, who was supposed to be at his mom's, to come over and change locks, but he wouldn't. Then his mom told me he wasn't with her. I went to Facebook and it took me less than an hour to find the first two women. He was cheating on me.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh.

[Unnamed Speaker]

What else is he lying about? Well, one thing my paranoia just wouldn't let up was about the cancer and his treatments. I asked his mom about it, who told me he doesn't have cancer. She also informed me he was in rehab, not the hospital. He suffered from addiction and was trying to recover for me and our baby. Did she leave him? Well, to find out how the story ends, listen and follow the okay Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dolores Catania]

So after making Kyle wait for 10 minutes, Craig finally comes back to talk to him. We get a flashback to 3 hours ago when Craig told Jesse and Wes that he pulled lover boy from all of his stores. I was confused. I was confused about that. What do you mean his stores? He has stores.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't know. He has the pillows, right? Maybe he sells drinks in the pillow store, whatever it is.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And all his stores.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, I know. I don't understand what these stores are. Does he sell pillows in this store? What does he sell in the store?

[Tamara Judge]

Okay, so he has.

[Dolores Catania]

You know what he doesn't sell. He doesn't sell.

[Tamara Judge]

When he says all his stores, meaning two. He pulled the drinks from his stores and he put them there, I guess to be a good friend. And that doesn't mean he cannot make money and post for another drink for sure. Unless. Unless lover boy wants to pay him not to take it.

[Dolores Catania]

Thank you. So why didn't Kyle have Craig promote his lover boy? I pay friends, housewives, even housewives that I don't know to promote my Venus, CBD and thc. Like I do that. And if somebody on. I've had people on my cast do it, but if somebody on my cast wants to promote something, I can't stop them. I can't stop.

[Tamara Judge]

You can't take money from. Margaret has a drink and we've all promoted other drinks. And Margaret's like, fine, you have to make money.

[Dolores Catania]

You have to understand there's room for everybody. Now the conversation between Craig and Kyle gets heated. Craig will not apologize for taking the deal with a competitor. You have to pick your battles.

[Tamara Judge]

You have to pick your battles. And how close are they?

[Dolores Catania]

I don't know. That's what I'm saying. They're not even on the same show really.

[Tamara Judge]

This is a debt issue at this point. This is.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I don't think that Kyle's ever going to see Craig back on the show again. So I don't think it's going to be an issue. You're done. You're done.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, how much money could he have gotten for the post? Honestly, I don't know. Not that much.

[Dolores Catania]

I wouldn't imagine. I wouldn't imagine. Not life changing money, that's for sure.

[Tamara Judge]

That's what I'm saying. So I don't think the friendship was.

[Dolores Catania]

You know, that's solid. So Kyle lets his emotions get the best of him and he feels like an attack on his business and his personal attack. And he. He finally apologizes for calling him a liar. Calling him a liar. I'm watching.

[Tamara Judge]

That was bad.

[Dolores Catania]

That was bad.

[Tamara Judge]

That was bad.

[Dolores Catania]

But I think it was big of Kyle to apologize, admit that he's impulsive and he lets his emotions take over at times. So he is growing Kyle.

[Tamara Judge]

By the way, I love Kyle.

[Dolores Catania]

I do too.

[Tamara Judge]

I really like Kyle. He's so sweet. When you meet him, he is just. He's a doll.

[Dolores Catania]

He really is.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm not surprised. He apologized and it was a sincere apology. He wants to do better and you know, it's the intention behind things. He gets emotional.

[Dolores Catania]

What he needs to do better at is every single episode he's slurring his words so bad. Cause he's so drunk.

[Tamara Judge]

That's the motto of Summer House. To never be sober and to be drunk enough to make damaging things to your life that you'll never be able to forget. Cause they're on tv.

[Dolores Catania]

I know. Jesse tells Amanda and Craig that he would date Sierra. If he had to choose between Lexi or Sierra to save in a burning building, he'd choose them both. Amanda and Craig want to see Sierra and Jesse hook up. Jesse and Sierra's main reason for not being together is because she was with Wes last summer. Is that a good enough excuse? I guess so, yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, I think it is. But here's the thing. I don't know what happens with the rest of the episodes, but she's kind of leaning into it a little more for my taste about this whole thing. I don't like it. And the. Even the consideration between west and Jess is not what I. I would. I want to see Sierra with a like, guy a little bit older, not somebody from the house. Like a strapping man.

[Dolores Catania]

She's established a nice doctor or something. She's a nurse.

[Tamara Judge]

Come on.

[Dolores Catania]

Do you think that Wes would have a right to be upset if Jesse and Sarah did hook up?

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. And you know what? I'm going to tell you why. Because he's had 9 million time chances to be upfront with Wes and say, I'm trying to hook up with her. Just so you know, because he. He had a conversation not to get ahead of ourselves. He had a conversation with Wes and. And he. I was like, wow, he's gonna do the right thing. He's gonna do the manly thing. And he's like, would you be upset if she dated someone else? And I'm like, here it comes. He's gonna redeem himself in my eyes. And then never says nothing. He doesn't say, I'm trying to do this. And I'm like, ew.

[Dolores Catania]

I know. Well, they flash over to Lindsay back in the city. She's at her apartment, and she's trying to get rid of the bad vibes. She considered moving out of the apartment because so much shit has happened there, but she just sold all of her bad vibe furniture instead. And then they flashback to, you know, Carl on the couch breaking off the engagement or the wedding. And so she sold that. Her aunt or somebody calls her on the phone and she's explaining everything. I got rid of this and I got rid of that. I think that Lindsay's outgrown the show now that she.

[Tamara Judge]

You just took the words out of my mouth. She is a woman.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I think she's always been ahead of.

[Dolores Catania]

She's a little bit more mature than most of them.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

I think, you know, there's talk even. I think Andy. I heard Andy was talking about her maybe going to Real Housewives of New York.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. She wants that bad. And. And she needs that. She says I need to make a living.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

And, you know, I think she would do great on Real Housewives of New York.

[Dolores Catania]

I do, too.

[Tamara Judge]

That's a nice apartment, by the way.

[Dolores Catania]

It is. It's really nice. So she must be making some good money.

[Tamara Judge]

What about. What about Carl saying she conceived on a bed that I paid for?

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, shit. Get rid of that bed, too. Back at the house, the party is still going on. Jesse and Wes are talking about Sierra. Now Wes is upset the Sierra is saying he used her because he did really care about her. If Wes saw Sierra dating, he would feel relieved. Not if it's his best friend. Not if it's not his best friend.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Yeah. We forgot to ask if you. Everybody in the house sees what's going on except him.

[Dolores Catania]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

And he's the closest to Jesse because, you know, Tamara, when you're so close to somebody, you don't see what other people see.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, right.

[Tamara Judge]

Isn't that in life, like you just.

[Dolores Catania]

Even. Even dating, too?

[Tamara Judge]

Like, no one's telling us. No one's given. I want to. Where's the conversation? I'd love to see in this house at this party, someone go up to Wes and say, hey, bro, how do you feel about this? Him, you know, trying to do this with Sierra? It's clear as day. Why is no one. And you know what else is bothering me a really, really long.

[Dolores Catania]

What?

[Tamara Judge]

Jesse's not a. Like, right now, I don't know what a kind of a human he is, but right now he's not a guy you would want your friend with. Why are these girls instigating who are supposed to be friends with Sierra?

[Dolores Catania]

Who?

[Tamara Judge]

Sierra has their back all the time. Sierra rides or dies for all of them. And they're like, yeah, suck her toes. Yeah. Hey, guys. I see the two of you together. Hey, I've seen this since last. Why is nobody pulling Sierra on the side and saying, you know, not a good thing?

[Dolores Catania]

No, I don't like this.

[Tamara Judge]

I'm mad about it.

[Dolores Catania]

I'm not about encouraging.

[Tamara Judge]

Sierra would say it to them, I hope, anyway.

[Dolores Catania]

I would think so, too. In Page and Sierra's room, they're basically hiding from the party. At this point, Paige is complaining about Craig and his perspective that he's.

[Tamara Judge]

While he's looking, where's my girlfriend?

[Dolores Catania]

I know. Where's my girlfriend? Where's my girlfriend? Then Paige admits that Craig told her. He's not going to say her business is bigger than his on camera.

[Tamara Judge]

I don't like that.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, it kind of bugged me that Paige is talking shit about Craig to Sierra. And I'm also confused. Is Paige not thinking that there's cameras in the room?

[Tamara Judge]

She did not care.

[Dolores Catania]

She didn't. But. But she's like, you know, he wouldn't. He didn't want me to say this on camera or he says it on camera.

[Tamara Judge]

You know exactly what she was doing.

[Dolores Catania]

I mean, they're obviously on camera.

[Tamara Judge]

Listen, Paige has no soul right now. She has no heart for him. She is going to eviscerate him and she's going to make him pay for saying that and not giving her the credit that she. She deserved from him. But she doesn't need it. He does.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I just kept thinking, why is she saying this on camera if Craig told her? He wasn't comfortable saying it on camera. It's like, do you have your boyfriend's back at all?

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Dolores Catania]

I know that you're over it, but you. I think she's setting up the breakup is basically what she's doing. I'm going to start rolling things out and I'm going to start saying things about him now. Craig was on what?

[Tamara Judge]

She couldn't. She couldn't say it anymore. Couldn't. If she screamed it in his face, she couldn't do it any more than she's doing. And he knows it. He's kind of more mature, to be honest.

[Dolores Catania]

A little bit more than that. Yeah. He was on watch what happens live last night. He's happy now and he said he was happy and he said that he doesn't agree with what Paige and her friends are doing to him publicly. I guess they're. I haven't seen any of it, but they're talking negatively about him, so. But he didn't cash her.

[Tamara Judge]

No, he didn't. I don't. I'm not so sure that there's a call for that. Yeah, she moved on. She's happy. He didn't do it to her. She wasn't the one hurt by the relationship. They could kind of cut him a break now.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. I think that at this point, like, they're both public figures. It didn't seem like there was some huge fight that happened between them. It's like, just go on your way. You don't have to bash one another.

[Tamara Judge]

Right.

[Dolores Catania]

You know, I mean, like, have, like.

[Tamara Judge]

Have a little bit of class. Have the. It's not like Carl and Lindsay. Lindsay had the right to be mad over that. He say it, but it's. It's kind of like have the respect of the relationship that you once had.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. Yeah. So then we go on. And Jesse and Sarah are dancing on each other. Everyone's noticing that they look more than just friends. Back inside, Sierra rest her feet.

[Tamara Judge]

And Wes alive yet. Is there a pulse? West, have you seen anything?

[Dolores Catania]

Come on, West. Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

I mean, at this point, he's probably just so happy if somebody takes her because he can't take the. He's getting from it, even if it is him. But that's not a manly thing to do.

[Dolores Catania]

I know. And then, like you said, Sierra rests her feet on Jesse's leg, and Paige dares Jesse to lick them. Sierra says no, thank God. Outside.

[Tamara Judge]

Get your feet off his leg. When you were in the pool on the raft, you put your leg on his. He's a. He's a dog. What are you doing, Sierra? Is there a certain aspect of this where you want to shove it in West's face? Because west could care.

[Dolores Catania]

Maybe that's why. Maybe that's. It does.

[Tamara Judge]

You're. You're putting yourself in a position. And I hope I'm wrong to get back at somebody because you're still angry for. And this is how you're doing it. No, this is not how you do it. You go and get some hot dude. Hot fine piece of ass.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But, you know, walks in that party and offers to buy the house for you and throw your friends out. That's. Thank you. When you look like that. That's how you do it.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, this is the part that was like, you know, they split the cameras outside, Wes is venting to Amanda about Sierra, so he's complaining that she's being disrespectful and saying that you know, all these things about him. And then you go over and there's Jesse basically hitting on his, you know, his ex. You know, it's like poor Wes is upset telling Amanda how Sierra is telling all his friends are horrible things about him. And then they go over and his best friend is over there hitting on the girl he's talking about.

[Tamara Judge]

Does he see it yet?

[Dolores Catania]

No, not yet.

[Tamara Judge]

Is he just so happy, hopefully that, you know, it's not on him anymore. But that's terrible.

[Dolores Catania]

I know. And then this. It even gets worse because inside, Jesse facetimes Lexi while he's peeing. Then he tells her he jerked off.

[Tamara Judge]

He can't do it out in front of everybody because he's hitting on everybody. I know. So he's gotta go call his girlfriend from the bathroom.

[Dolores Catania]

But for. You know what just grossed me out? I mean, first of all, him saying I jerked off before I went into the.

[Tamara Judge]

So I don't miss you.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, it's not. It's not what it is.

[Tamara Judge]

The only reason you would miss her.

[Dolores Catania]

No, he. Jerk.

[Tamara Judge]

Did they sleep together yet?

[Dolores Catania]

They said he said no, but the way they're talking, I'm like, bullshit. Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

They also says no later on when he doesn't come out of her room for almost an hour.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

Does everyone just jerk you off? That all you do? Because it still counts.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, I don't think he jerked off because he missed Lexi. I think he jerked off because he didn't trust himself as a. As a guy in a party with a bunch of, you know, girls at 31. And he's wasted.

[Tamara Judge]

Jerking off once isn't going to be enough as Emerald.

[Dolores Catania]

But this is what really grossed me out. The fact that he's telling Lexi how bad he feels about west and Sierra after he's been hitting on her all night long.

[Tamara Judge]

It's so bad. And I'm telling you, he would have. He would. He would have a cinder block tied to his ankles and he'd be in the pool. I mean, I just. What happened to the old days? I'm not old school. This is so up.

[Dolores Catania]

Did you see the previews for next week? Now Lexi's not going to be. She's not happy. It comes to her attention.

[Tamara Judge]

Where is Lexi now?

[Dolores Catania]

She's in. She was in Canada with her family.

[Tamara Judge]

I know. It's with her parents again.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah.

[Tamara Judge]

But wait, where is she now? They're. I don't know either.

[Dolores Catania]

No, I don't think so. But I went onto her Instagram. Damn, that girl is beautiful. Dang. I'm like, holy moly. Like, all her modeling pictures.

[Tamara Judge]

So bad.

[Dolores Catania]

I know, I know. So the guys decide to go out. Even though Jesse can hardly stand up. Paige tells Craig to lay back. She's. I mean, so disrespectful. He's like, hi, honey. I haven't seen you all day. And she pushes him. Lay back, and gives him his phone to lay in bed so he can scroll on Instagram or do whatever he's doing.

[Tamara Judge]

That's it. That is it. It's over.

[Dolores Catania]

My husband's like, put the phone down. Put the phone down. Right. Like, to do that. It was just like, oh, oh, Nope.

[Tamara Judge]

But everybody's so bad.

[Dolores Catania]

It's so bad.

[Tamara Judge]

This is also. This is so cringe. I'm like, oh, my God. Let me tell you something. If I did that to a guy, they would have just left. They would have gotten in their car or however he got there.

[Dolores Catania]

Bye, bye.

[Tamara Judge]

And left.

[Dolores Catania]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

This is like. This is like dying a thousand deaths before the real breakup.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, did you notice the next morning when they wake up, she has her phone hidden underneath the pillow, and he. I don't know who she's texting or whatever, and he, like, hits it, and it falls, and she's like. I'm like, huh? What were you doing there? What were you doing?

[Tamara Judge]

There's just so many, like, signs on everything. I want to go to the party. Even though it happened six months ago.

[Dolores Catania]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Or a year ago, I want to walk in and tell everybody what the hell is going on and shake them.

[Larison Campbell]

There's a type of soil in Mississippi called Yazoo clay. It's thick, burnt orange, and it's got a reputation.

[Selena Gomez]

It's terrible, terrible dirt.

[Larison Campbell]

Yazoo clay eats everything, so things that get buried there tend to stay buried until they're not. In 2012, construction crews at Mississippi's biggest hospital made a shocking discovery.

[Tamara Judge]

7,000 bodies out there or more, all.

[Larison Campbell]

Former patients of the old state asylum, and nobody knew they were there.

[Tamara Judge]

It was my family's mystery.

[Larison Campbell]

But in this corner of the south, it's not just the soil that keeps secrets. Nobody talks about it.

[Dolores Catania]

Nobody has any information.

[Larison Campbell]

When you peel back the layers of Mississippi's Yazoo clay, nothing's ever as simple as you think.

[Dolores Catania]

The story is much more complicated and nuanced than that.

[Larison Campbell]

I'm Larison Campbell. Listen to Under Yazoo Clay on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

Is this a good time? It's me, Dylan Mulvaney, and my dear friend Joe Locke from Heartstopper and Agatha all along is my very first guest on my brand new podcast, the Dylan Hour. It's musical mayhem and it is going to be so much fun. I like a man. You like a man. What do I like, Joe? You like a man too. We often. There's quite similar. There's some cross pollination happening in here. Not like.

[Tamara Judge]

No.

[Dolores Catania]

Have we.

[Teddy Mellencamp]

No. No, not yet. Never say never. I cannot wait for all you girls, gays and they to join me on this extremely special pink confection of a podcast. There is so much darkness in this world and what I think we could all use more of is a little joy. Listen to the Dylan hour on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Love ya.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, you're listening to On Purpose with Jay Shetty. And today my guests are none other than Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco. I can't wait for you to hear this episode about their love story, about their relationship like you've never heard it before. I want to go back to the first time you ever met.

[Tamara Judge]

Thank you so much for this.

[Dolores Catania]

One of the great. Thank you, Selena.

[Selena Gomez]

We're watching Desi and kids.

[Benny Blanco]

When you're a pop star like she is and you're a huge entity and people set up all these walls before, and then the first second you, like, disarmed everybody.

[Tamara Judge]

By the way, congratulations on your engagement.

[Selena Gomez]

What I felt for Benny, it was. Everything about him was honest. He'll tell me anything that he's feeling, and it made me feel like I could do the same.

[Benny Blanco]

If we would have met each other when we were younger, it would have never worked.

[Jay Shetty]

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jen Swan]

Imagine you're scrolling through TikTok. You come across a video of a teenage girl and then a photo of the person suspected of killing her.

[Unnamed Speaker]

And I was like, what? Like, it was him. I was like, oh, my God. It was shocking. It was very shocking.

[Jen Swan]

I'm Jen Swan. I'm a journalist in Los Angeles, and I've spent the past few years investigating the story behind the viral posts and the extraordinary events that followed.

[Tamara Judge]

I started investing my time to get her justice.

[Dolores Catania]

They put out something on social media, so I'd get called in the middle.

[Tamara Judge]

Of the night all the time.

[Unnamed Speaker]

It's like, how do you think you're going to get away with something like this? Like you kill somebody.

[Jen Swan]

It's the story of how and why a group of teenagers Turned to social media to help track down their friend's killer. This is their story. This is my friend Daisy. Listen to my friend daisy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unnamed Speaker]

My husband cheated on me with two women. He wants to stay together because he has cancer. Should I stay? Sam, that has to be the craziest story in OK Storytime podcast history. Well, John, that's because it's dumping week and this user writes, my partner told me when we first got together that he has cancer. He's currently living with his mom while he is in recover so that it takes the pressure off me caring for both him and her baby until he's well enough to move into our new home with us so far. Well, last week we had attempted break in. I asked my husband, who was supposed to be at his mom's, to come over and change locks, but he wouldn't. Then his mom told me he wasn't with her. I went to Facebook and it took me less than an hour to find the first two women. He was cheating on me. Oh, what else is he lying about? Well, one thing my paranoia just wouldn't let up was about the cancer in his treatments. I asked his mom about it, who told me he doesn't have cancer. She also informed me he was in rehab, not the hospital. He suffered from addiction and was trying to recover for me and our baby. Did she leave him? Well, to find out how the story ends, listen and follow the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dolores Catania]

So that night, everyone gets back around 2am Emerald brings back two girls tonight. Not one, but two. He still thinks covering the camera in the room is doing something, but we can clearly hear everything. It's crazy, but the fact he needed a fan. He needed a fan because it was all hot and sweaty in there.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, it smells. I smell sex.

[Dolores Catania]

I guess I smell it. I smell it. But then Jesse, the dog and heat that he is, goes to Emeril's room to see the girls he brought back, knowing damn well what's going on there. And he was there for 37 minutes.

[Tamara Judge]

Where was Emeril again?

[Dolores Catania]

He was in bed with the girls. There was a. There's all four of them in bed.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, my God.

[Dolores Catania]

We're supposed to believe nothing happened? There was just some toe sucking going on?

[Jen Swan]

We.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah, no, no, that's. Yeah.

[Dolores Catania]

You know who we didn't talk about is at the party is Lil.

[Tamara Judge]

Lil, let's talk About Lil with her cute little self coming in.

[Dolores Catania]

The magician.

[Tamara Judge]

How is she? Magician?

[Dolores Catania]

She said she wanted. Did you catch the little conversation she had with Carl saying that if she could do anything, she would go to magician college? And she had a set of cards in her purse and she pulled them out and said she doesn't know how to do any tricks.

[Tamara Judge]

And the way. And then she was like. Kind of like when they were talking, all of a sudden she was like this for no reason, Cirque du Soleil stuff.

[Dolores Catania]

And then going on.

[Tamara Judge]

She's got her little cherry bag with.

[Dolores Catania]

Her, and her mommy and daddy picked her up dancing. I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Yeah. Run.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes.

[Tamara Judge]

Get in the car and don't come. You are not cut out for this world, Lil.

[Dolores Catania]

No.

[Tamara Judge]

Your whole Zen. Your whole whatever it is going on in that cute little nice head of yours. Run, don't walk.

[Dolores Catania]

Oh, my God. Well, the next morning, apparently the two girls Emerald brought were. Asked Jesse to join them in bed and have sex with them. But he put his feet where their faces were so they could lick his toes. Lick his toes?

[Tamara Judge]

Is that a thing in this episode? Because they were telling Sierra, yeah, there's.

[Dolores Catania]

A lot toe licking. A lot of toe licking. Jesse says in his confessional just how bad his feet were probably smelling. He was walking around outside barefoot. He was at a club.

[Tamara Judge]

He was walking all over the. The grass where they just take their dick out and piss on it instead of coming in and use the bathroom.

[Dolores Catania]

Yes. And the producer asked why he took his socks off, though. Because he went to Emma's room with socks on? No, because he wanted his feet.

[Tamara Judge]

He took his socks off because he was banging? Yes, he was banging. Not too many guys keep their socks on when they do that. I think it's a thing. Like, guys don't keep their socks. No, he's worried about his socks. When meanwhile, you got Emeril standing, laying there with a stiff one and two random girls. Okay.

[Dolores Catania]

Did you catch this on the camera footage from Emeril's room last that night? It was Jesse saying, I'm hard. So I had to. I had to rewind that a couple times. I'm like, who said that? I thought it was Emeril. You know? Of course. No, no, it was Jesse outside.

[Tamara Judge]

Jesse tells everyone, I'm almost gonna vomit right now. I know there's a little bit, like, I'm throwing up in my mouth, but. So, like, I don't usually get sick over things, but this is making me a little nauseous.

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah. So I think we both agree that Something did happen. Other than toe sucking with the girls.

[Tamara Judge]

In bed, How's Lexi gonna feel about this when she gets back?

[Dolores Catania]

Could you imagine Lexi watching this and.

[Tamara Judge]

Going like, her father and mother are gonna skip the club instead of going out and they're gonna go beat the shit out of him?

[Dolores Catania]

Well, clearly we haven't heard anything about them still going on. So I'm thinking next week she's done with him.

[Tamara Judge]

But I want. I want to watch her find out that he had a foursome.

[Dolores Catania]

I do, too.

[Tamara Judge]

This is. I'm so excited about this episode because there's so many arcs here. I want to know. I want Wes to find out that Jesse's trying to bone Ciara. I want to know how he feels about that. Because if he ever really cared about Ciara, whether he's pissed off at her or not, he should be mad at what Jesse's trying to do. If he ever really cared about her. This will be a way for Sierra to know if anything, their friendship was real, if their fling was real, if there was ever any intentions there. He should be very upset that somebody he cared about is trying to go for her with not good intentions. He's not a guy who wants to get in a relationship. He's asking people in the house, when do you stop looking at other girls?

[Dolores Catania]

I know.

[Tamara Judge]

Make a committed relationship.

[Dolores Catania]

I really thought that Jesse was going to be a little bit more mature because of the things that he has gone through with his health issues and stuff like that.

[Tamara Judge]

Jesse needs help.

[Dolores Catania]

I think that really, in most cases changes you and who you are and you have a different perspective on life. But I guess his new perspective on life is bone in everything that. That walks.

[Tamara Judge]

Well, listen, that could be it. That could very well be it. Like, hey, you know, I went through this. I'm going to live life to the fullest. But is that really what is that? The Fullest is at 31. No, that's at 21. Yeah, that's in college, at college parties. That's not at 31.

[Dolores Catania]

So I'm sure we're going to have Lexi at the reunion. So it's gonna be, you know, like.

[Tamara Judge]

Oh, see, I'm so excited.

[Dolores Catania]

And I want. She has to say, and I want.

[Tamara Judge]

To know what's going on with Sierra. Like, I want to know where her head is at and why she would want that. Sierra, keep your legs off that man's legs. I see that one more time on the next episode. And then you expect that guy not to, like, you know, enough.

[Dolores Catania]

I agree.

[Tamara Judge]

Enough.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, that's it for this episode. Thank you, guys.

[Tamara Judge]

I got excited for this episode. Did you too?

[Dolores Catania]

Yeah, I did.

[Tamara Judge]

I did. There's so much I'm, like, into. I'm into watching all this unfold. We have the breakup with Craig. We have Lexi coming back and finding out about the foursome. We have west waking up and deciding to be upset about something I want him to be upset about with Jesse.

[Dolores Catania]

Mm. There's a lot going on.

[Tamara Judge]

We have so much to see how it unfolds, so I'm excited.

[Dolores Catania]

Well, thank you, Dolores. And I will see you very soon.

[Tamara Judge]

You are the highlight of my week to talk like this is our gossip stuff.

[Dolores Catania]

So much.

[Tamara Judge]

It is.

[Dolores Catania]

So thank you and thank you guys for tuning in.

[Tamara Judge]

Bye.

[Larison Campbell]

In Mississippi, Yazoo clay keeps secrets.

[Tamara Judge]

7,000 bodies out there. Or more.

[Larison Campbell]

A forgotten asylum cemetery.

[Tamara Judge]

It was my family's. Mystery.

[Larison Campbell]

Shame, guilt, propriety. Something keeps it all buried deep until it's not. I'm Larison Campbell, and this is Under Yazoo Clay. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, you're listening to On Purpose with Jay Shetty, and today my guests are none other than Selena Gomez and Benny Blanco.

[Selena Gomez]

What I felt for Benny, it was. Everything about him was honest. He'll tell me anything that he's feeling, and it made me feel like I could do the same.

[Benny Blanco]

If we would have met each other when we were younger, it would have never worked.

[Jay Shetty]

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Unnamed Speaker]

My husband cheated on me with two women. He wants to stay together because he has cancer. Should I stay? Okay, Sam, that has to be the craziest story in okay, Storytime podcast history. Well, John, that's because it's D week and this user writes, last week, we had an attempted break in. I asked my husband, who was supposed to be at his mom's, to come over and change the locks, but his mom told me he wasn't with her, and it took me less than an hour to find the first two women. He was cheating on me. Did you leave him? Well, to find out how this story ends, follow the okay, Story Time podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Jen Swan]

Imagine you're scrolling through TikTok. You come across a video of a teenage girl and then a photo of the person suspected of killing her.

[Unnamed Speaker]

It was shocking. It was very shocking. Like, that could have been my daughter. Like, you never know.

[Jen Swan]

I'M Jen Swan. I'm the host of a new podcast called My Friend Daisy. It's the story of how and why a group of teenagers turned to social media to help track down their friend's killer. Listen to my friend daisy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dolores Catania]

In 2020, a group of young women found themselves in an AI fueled Nightma was posting photos.

[Tamara Judge]

It was just me naked.

[Jen Swan]

Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts.

[Dolores Catania]

This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart podcasts Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope about the rise of deep fate pornography and the battle to stop it. Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.