Ep.394 The Grey That Returned

Summary

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UFO Chronicles Podcast — Ep.394: "The Grey That Returned"

Date: July 12, 2026
Host: Nik Hunter
Guest: Amber Sepulveda (Tennessee)
Theme: Firsthand witness account detailing lifelong UFO and abduction experiences, with a focus on telepathic contact, abduction events, and the lasting impact of such encounters.

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Episode Overview

In this episode, host Nik Hunter is joined by Amber Sepulveda, who shares her extraordinary and deeply personal experiences with what she believes to be non-human intelligence, primarily a recurring encounter with a Grey alien. Amber recounts significant events from her childhood through early adulthood, including telepathic communication, abduction, surgical-like procedures, and receiving "forbidden knowledge." The conversation spans from her earliest memory of contact at age 9, a pivotal question to Apollo 15 astronaut Al Worden, through to an impactful abduction at 16 and a spectacular UFO sighting later witnessed by her entire family. Her story blends faith, fear, awe, familial secrecy, and an ongoing search for answers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Formative Years and Worldview (07:19 - 09:30)

• Amber describes her upbringing in a Christian household in South Florida, which shaped her early understanding of reality.
• Curiosity about life and the universe was present from an early age.
• "As a little girl, I was just a normal kid. I loved animals. I loved nature. I was fascinated by how life itself worked. I would spend hours wondering how everything fit together." (07:27, Amber)

2. First Contact: Telepathic Encounter at Age 9 (09:34 - 16:00)

• At age 8–9, Amber experienced a late-night visitation by a classic Grey in her bedroom.
• The being engaged her in telepathic communication:
  • "The very first thing it said was, 'Do not be afraid.' That immediately reminds me of how angels speak throughout the Bible..." (11:43, Amber)
  • It showed curiosity about Amber's dreams, asking, “I’m just curious about your dreams.”
  • Amber resisted mentally, refusing to allow access to her dreams and eventually broke the telepathic hold, regaining control of her body.
• After escaping to her mother’s room, Amber’s mother remarked: “Amber, oh my God, you look like you just seen a ghost. You’re white as a sheet.” (15:59, Amber)—an observation echoed in many abduction accounts.

3. Obsession and The Astronaut's Confirmation (16:30 - 20:45)

• Haunted by her experience, Amber became fixated on finding answers.
• During a school trip to Kennedy Space Center at age 10, Amber asked Apollo 15 astronaut Al Worden directly: "Are aliens real?"
• His simple, direct answer: “Yes.”
  • “That single word changed everything for me. It wasn’t just the answer. It was the certainty behind it.” (19:28, Amber)
• This propelled years of obsessive research into UFOs and abduction phenomena.

4. Abduction Experience at 16 (20:50 - 32:30)

• At 16, Amber experienced a “lucid state” and was drawn toward hurricane windows at home, stepping through them “like water” into a glowing craft.
• Inside, she describes seamless organic architecture and being brought before several Greys, including a tall, female “queen” leader.
• Telepathic communication continued; procedures were performed:
  • Incisions made on her ankles, leaving symmetrical scars.
  • “I remember when they took me off the table...It was almost like a doctor's appointment and the surgery was done or something.” (27:38, Amber)
• Marked with a sigil by the queen, who said: “You are our familiar.” (29:48, Amber)
• Shown vivid, holographic projections, including a visit to Saturn’s moon Titan in a pill-shaped craft, and taught concepts of oneness and universal connection.

5. The Forbidden Knowledge – Visions and Mission (37:55 - 45:30)

• Amber recounts receiving apocalyptic visions: a landscape where all man-made structures were destroyed, but nature remained untouched.
• Telepathic message from her recurring Grey:
  • “We are called Planet Destroyers. You are our familiar. You are here to help us create the new world. This is the fifth world and it will end in fire.” (38:40, Amber)
• Compares her visions to Hopi prophecy of cyclical worlds, suggesting an extraterrestrial role in Earth’s periodic transformation.

6. The 2014 Mothership Sighting (41:45 - 45:00)

• Amber and her entire family witnessed a massive UFO hovering over their neighborhood, resulting in a widespread power outage—all submitted as a MUFON report (#54956).
• Other local residents reported similar sightings that same night.

7. Effects on Life, Health, and Family (45:45 - 59:36)

• Amber speaks about the psychological and physical impact:
  • Ongoing health decline and unexplained medical issues, particularly with her legs and ankles where incisions were made.
  • Isolation and lifelong search for answers have shaped her worldview.
• Family initially unaware of her experiences; later, they were accepting and supportive, having witnessed other unexplained phenomena themselves.
• “I think it’s because I can handle the truth.” (59:40, Amber, when asked why she was chosen)

8. Reflective Insights and Advice (59:53 - 64:09)

• Amber emphasizes the openness and non-malicious nature of her Grey visitors, advising that calm, open interaction reduces fear:
  • “If you encounter them...as long as you stay calm and you encounter them with an open mind and you’re there to understand and listen, that it could be a very profoundingly spectacular experience and it shouldn’t be scary.” (60:45, Amber)
• Notes her experiences have broadened her mind and reaffirmed her belief in God, proposing that alien entities may not be “demonic” but part of a vast creation.
• Affirms the therapeutic power of sharing experiences and encourages others not to stay silent.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On First Telepathic Contact:
  "I couldn’t move my arms. I couldn’t move my legs. I couldn’t even open my mouth. The only thing I could move were my eyes...I shouted back, ‘No, you may not look at my dreams. They’re mine.’” (12:35, Amber)

• On the Queen Grey:
  "She was beautiful...She was like the queen ant. Without her, there's no hive. They went to her for everything. She had a sense of diplomacy." (56:44, Amber)

• On the Concept of 'Familiar':
  “When she did that, she looked at me and told me, 'You are our familiar.' In that moment, a sense of communion washed over me, a profound oneness.” (29:48, Amber)

• On Sharing Her Story:
  "Whether people agree with my interpretation or not, these experiences changed me forever...But over those 17 years, I came to realize something else. I’m not the only one." (44:10, Amber)

• On Listener Advice:
  “I do believe if you’re kind to them, they will be kind to you...The Greys that I met were not malicious. But as long as you stay calm and you encounter them with an open mind...it shouldn’t be scary.” (59:53, Amber)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Amber’s Introduction & Motivation for Speaking Out: 07:19 – 09:36
• First Abduction Encounter (Childhood): 09:34 – 16:30
• Astronaut Al Worden Exchange: 16:30 – 20:40
• Teenage Abduction & Grey “Tour”: 20:50 – 29:55
• Branding & "Familiar" Mark: 29:48 – 32:30
• Forbidden Knowledge/Apocalypse Vision: 37:55 – 41:45
• 2014 Family UFO Sighting: 41:45 – 45:00
• Physical & Emotional Impacts, Family Reaction: 45:50 – 59:40
• Reflective Advice & Final Thoughts: 59:53 – 64:12

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Episode Takeaways

• Amber’s story is rich with recurring motifs from classic contactee and abduction stories, including telepathy, missing time, medical examinations, marks on the body, apocalyptic visions, and messages about the interconnectedness of all life.
• Her narrative is deeply interwoven with spiritual searching, balancing her Christian upbringing with the radical implications of her encounters.
• Despite long-term health effects and years of secrecy, Amber advocates for openness, dialogue, and the pursuit of answers.
• She reassures listeners: sharing these experiences is crucial and potentially healing, and no one experiencing the strange and unexplained is truly alone.

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For more encounters and to contact the show, visit ufochroniclespodcast.com. To view Amber’s sigil image as mentioned, check the episode’s companion post on the website.

Transcript

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Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had an encounter and would like to be on the show, you can email [e-mail]. Hello everyone. Hope you're all doing well tonight. I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. For tonight's guest, we have Amber from Tennessee. And she'll be sharing about her experiences that she believed involved contact with non human intelligence. Beginning with an encounter at age 9 in South Florida and continuing with a second event at 16 that she interprets as an abduction. She describes telepathic communication, a mysterious examination and unusual marking she says was left behind, and the years she spent trying to understand what happened. Amber is up next. But first, if you enjoy the show and you would like to help support the podcast on Patreon, you can do this for as little as $1 a month. Head on over to patreon.com u UFO Chronicles podcast. You can also find a link in the description of this episode. Any help is very much appreciated. Now, on with the show. Hello, Amber.

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Welcome.

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Welcome to the show.

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Thank you so much for having me, Nick. It's an honor.

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The pleasure is all mine, Amber. Thank you for joining us tonight. And you're coming to us from the state of Tennessee?

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Yes.

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Okay. Now Amber, you have some quite a few experiences to share with us. Would you like to start at the beginning please, ma'?

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Am?

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Yes, I would love to. Hello and welcome. My name is amber supploveda. I'm 32 years old. Born on June 4, 1994. I grew up in Boca Raton, South Florida and grew up in my family home in Margate, Florida. I was raised primarily by my aunt alongside my mother. And from my earliest memories, my life revolved around Christianity. As a non denominational Christian church wasn't just something we did on Sundays. It shaped how I understood the world, how I understood God, and how I believed that reality worked. As a little girl, I was just a normal kid. I loved animals. I loved nature. I was fascinated by how life itself worked. I would spend hours wondering how everything fit together. How God created the universe, why everything seemed connected, and how something so complex could exist with such incredible design. Then in 2003, when I was 8 or 9 years old, something happened that completely changed the course of my life. One encounter one night. And then from that moment on, the foundation of everything I believed was shaken. For years I kept these experiences to myself. I questioned them. I Wrestled with them. I tried to make sense of them through my faith, through science, through history, and eventually through years of research. Today, we're living in what many people describe as an age of disclosure. Governments have acknowledged unidentified aerial phenomena. Military footage has been released, and conversations that once seemed impossible are now happening in the open. Whether you agree with my conclusions or not, I believe this is finally the right time to tell my story. There's another reason I'm speaking now. My health has been declining, and it's given me a profound sense of urgency. And I don't want this story left untold. For a long time, I hoped I could share these experiences anonymously, but that somehow there would be a layer of protection between me and the public. But I've reached a point where I no longer want to hide behind a synonym. My name is Amber Sepulveda. This is my real name. These are my experiences. And whether you believe every part of them or simply listen with an open mind, I'm grateful you're here. And I'm glad to be here. The events I'm about to share unfold between 2003 and 2010 and a UAP mothership sighting in 2014, well over seven year period that forever changed how I see reality. But they're impacted. And in there, they stayed with me every single day, even now. And looking back now, I can divide those years into three defining chapters in my life. The first began in 2009, when I was 8, and what I believed was my first telepathic encounter with the great alien. The second came in 2005 during a school field trip at the Kennedy Space center, where I met Apollo 15 astronaut Al Worden. I asked him a question that had been burning inside me, and his answers sent me down a path of obsessive research. The third and fourth chapter came in 2010, when I was 16. It was beyond anything I could have prepared for. It wasn't just another encounter. It was a revelation. I was told. Forbidden knowledge taken on what felt like a guided tour. And I was familiar to them, known in ways I still struggle to comprehend. I'll reveal more as we continue. In time, I came to understand abductions. As described in many reports, they unfold in distinct stages. First being the communion, the initial contact when they come for you. Second is the tour being shown the ship and what it's within. The third stage is surgical procedures or examination, sometimes leaving behind marks. Then comes the fourth stage, the deeper tour, sometimes to places far beyond Earth, revealing even more. And finally, the fifth stage. They release you when they Return you home, though not always exactly where you started. Like in my case, I found myself returned to a different location, yet forever changed. By then, I was 16 years old, and I wasn't the frightened child I had been in 2003. Years of searching for answers had prepared me in ways I couldn't have imagined. When I came face to face with those same entities again, I chose not to run. I chose to ask questions. And those three moments are connected, each one built upon the last. And I'm going to take you through each chapter exactly as I remembered it, to honestly share what I experienced and how it changed my life forever. This is the first contact. It all started one night in 2009, when I was just 8 or 9 years old. I remember laying on my right side, fast asleep in my bed. Then all of a sudden, I became aware of this overwhelming presence, this unmistakable feeling that I was being watched. It wasn't like waking up from a dream. It felt as though something had entered my room and somehow reached inside of me. I opened my eyes. Just a few feet from my bed was a dark figure, crouched down, no more than three feet tall, staring directly at me. Mind you, I'm nine. I'm so scared. Then it spoke. Not with its mouth, but inside my mind. It wasn't hearing words with my ears. It was more like thoughts were being placed directly in my consciousness. The communication felt deeply personal, almost intimate. The very first thing it said was, do not be afraid. That immediately reminds me of how angels speak throughout the Bible. Their first words are almost always, do not be afraid. Then it says something that completely caught me off guard. I'm just curious about your dreams. I instantly tried to move. Nothing. I tried to sit up. Nothing. I tried to scream. Nothing. I couldn't move my arms. I couldn't move my legs. I couldn't even open my mouth. The only thing I could move were my eyes. Left, right, up and down. As a kid, I used to imagine what it would be like to have superpowers, to read minds or communicate without speaking. And somehow, in that moment, I felt like I could. Without knowing what telepathy even was, I instinctively answered in the exact same way. It was speaking to me inside my mind. I shouted back, no, you may not look at my dreams. They're mine. I remember feeling with absolute certainty that my dreams weren't just dreams. They were something sacred, something deeply personal. And I wasn't going to let anything take that away from me. It felt like this being was flipping through my memories. Almost like something scrolling or someone scrolling through photographs, in a slideshow, moments from my life to my dreams. And as deep as my thoughts, I could actually feel it. Searching and searching through my mind like flipping pages in a book. It was one of the most violating feelings I have ever experienced. Looking back now, I realized I was communicating telepathically. But at eight years old, I had no idea what telepathy was. It just happened naturally. The exchange felt organic, as if our thoughts were flowing back and forth without words. Oddly enough, the being didn't feel hateful. It felt incredibly curious. That doesn't mean I wasn't terrified. I absolutely was. It looked exactly like people today would describe as a classic gray. Its skin was pale with bluish green tint, almost translucent, like faint veins were visible beneath the surface. Its head was oversized. Its eyes were almond shaped, enormous, blacker than black. The only light reflecting from them came from the moonlight shining through my bedroom window. There was no anger, no happiness, no expression at all. Just this intense, silent curiosity. Years later, after researching countless reports and learning about sleep paralysis, people naturally asked if that's what was happening to me. And the reasons I've never personally believed that explanation fits. My experience is because something changed in that room the moment I refused to let it into my mind. It felt like whatever connection existed between us suddenly snapped. It was almost like a cord had been cut. Instantly, I was able to move again. I jumped up out of bed and took off running toward my mother's bedroom. But before I reached the doorway, I made a decision. I was a smart kid growing up. I told myself, if I look back and it's gone, then maybe I imagined all of this. But if I look back and it's still there, then I know this is really happening. So I looked back as I'm running to my mom's room. Except it wasn't three feet tall anymore. It stood up. It had to have been about 6 or 7ft tall. Its arms slowly reached towards me. And then I noticed its hands, like three or four long fingers. Its mouth open just slightly and its eyes widened. And for just a moment, it almost looked like it didn't want me to leave. But I didn't stop running. I sprinted, completely terrified, straight into my mother's bedroom. And she immediately sat up and looked at me. And her first words out of her mouth were amber, oh my God, you look like you just seen a ghost. You're white as a sheet. I had never forgotten that years later, when I heard of other experiencers describing family members saying almost the exact same thing after their encounters. Like Raina Ryan, her husband said she had looked like she had just seen a ghost when she saw her alien. And in one of her interviews in 1980. And it just struck me how similar that phrase and experience was. In that moment, I wasn't thinking of any of that, though. I was just a terrified girl trying to understand something I had no words for. And so here's chapter two, the question that changed everything for me. For the next two years, I couldn't stop thinking about that night. I didn't tell many people. I didn't even know what questions to ask. All I knew was that something had entered my bedroom, communicated with without speaking, and left me with more questions than answers. These questions followed me everywhere. They followed me to school. They followed me to church. They followed me every single night before I fell asleep. By 2005, I was 10 years old. Our school took a field trip to Kennedy Space Center. At the time, it was just another school trip. I had no idea that it would become one of the most defining moments of my life. During that visit, I had the opportunity to meet Apollo 15 astronaut Al Worden. Standing there in front of someone who had actually traveled to the moon, I knew I had one chance to ask the question that had been burning inside of me ever since that night in 2003. I looked at him dead in the eyes and I asked, are aliens real? I'll never forget his response. As I remember, he looked directly back at me and answered, yes. That single word changed everything for me. It wasn't just the answer. It was the certainty behind it. Walking away from that conversation, I felt like a door had opened that I couldn't close. From that moment forward, I became obsessed with finding answers. I immersed myself in everything I could find, from the Roswell incident, the historical UFO reports, to books, documentaries, accounts from people who claim they have experiences of their own, military cases, interviews, anything that might help me understand what had happened to me. For the next five years, I wasn't trying to prove anything to anyone. I was trying to answer one question for myself. What happened in my bedroom that night? Years later, I came across interviews where Al Worden discussed life beyond Earth on Good Morning Britain eight years ago. From today on YouTube, before he passed away in 2020, one statement that stood out to me was when he expressed the idea that aliens are us and we are them. Whether someone agrees with that idea or not, hearing those words years after meeting him made me reflect on that conversation at Kennedy Space center in a completely different way. Looking back now, the single question I asked 10 years ago became the beginning of a search that would eventually lead to what happened to me in 2010. And by then, I wasn't the same frightened little girl anymore. I was ready to ask questions. So here's chapter three, my abduction when I was 16. I was just sprawled out on the couch, thinking it was just another ordinary night. But it wasn't just any night. It was already 11pm and there was this show I was watching on Adult Swim called Aqua Teen Hunger Force. It was a show for older teens, 18 and up. But at 16, I felt like I was getting away with something. There was a bit of pride in staying up late watching what I wasn't supposed to. I was relaxed, wrapped up in that teenage thrill of pushing my limits. But then I glanced down the hall. That hall was etched in my memory from years before. My mother's door was just slightly cracked open. So subtle I might have ignored it. But then I saw it move. Slowly, the door crept open as if unseen hands were from within, pulling it outward, beckoning the darkness forward. That darkness wasn't just black. It was alive. It felt like the same blackness I'd seen in those gray eyes all those years ago. It was a void. Familiar, yet terrifying. I froze. I turned off the tv. The room fell silent. I threw the blanket over my head as if that could shield me from what I had felt. I whispered, it's nothing. Just my imagination. I convinced myself I was fine. And then I drifted off to sleep. But when I woke up, it was different. I was in this lucid state. But I wasn't paralyzed, not like before. I was hypnotized, moving as if something else was guiding me. My arms stayed at my side, and I rose from the couch, step by step, towards the hurricane windows to my right. And now these hurricane windows, they're. They're heavy. They're thick, okay? And they're not like regular windows. They're for hurricanes. Growing up in South Florida, you come to realize you're accustomed to that. And I just. I ended up going towards the window. And outside, I saw in the yard, there was this glowing white craft, brighter than anything I'd seen, yet somehow gentle. It swayed, fitting into the yard as it. As if it belonged there. I reached out and my hand pressed through the window like water. I stepped forward onto their ship. Everything was white. Everything felt strangely organic, as if it all belonged together, just like the window had flowed like water. When I reached through, the ship itself felt alive, Fluid. The chairs, the tables, the entire structure. It wasn't separate pieces. The furniture emerged from the floor seamlessly part of the ship. It wasn't like anything I'd seen. No edges, no seams, no bolts, nothing like that. No metal. It was just a continuous, smooth environment, like it was grown rather than built. And there I was, standing in this living space. No shadows, no doors. At that moment, a couple of grays stepped forward. I couldn't tell exactly how many at first. And they emerged from one of the corners, if you could call them corners. The space was so bright, so seamless, that it was like a mirror room without mirrors. No shadows, no depth in the corners, just this white expanse. But out of the depthless space, they stepped forward. And I realized I wasn't alone among them. I recognized instantly it was the same Gray I had met when I was 8 or 9 years old. I couldn't explain how I knew, but I knew. There was this familiar feeling, like it had known me for years. I just knew it was a male. There was no anatomy, no obvious sign, but it was as if that knowledge was already inside me. There's that organic feeling again, the instinctive, like it had been downloaded into my mind. I had no doubt that this was the one that had been with me from the beginning. Ever since that first night. This was the one I had been waiting to meet again, the one I wanted to speak with without fear. Ever since that first encounter, I had wondered what it would be like to face him, to have a real conversation, to ask the questions I had carried for years. And now there he was, standing before me, this Gray who had been with me since I was a child. I wasn't here to run. I was here to talk. After that, it's all a blur. I don't recall what they did, whether they placed something inside me or removed anything. But I do remember them gently taking my hands and guiding me off the table, as if part of the stage was complete. So I remember when they laid me on the gurney, I had three or four grays on each side of me on the left and right. And as I'm laying down on this gurney, the table is cold. It's like the metal ones you see in the hospital. It's cold, and I'm wearing, like, a white robe. I noticed this small, childlike gray come to the right side of me. And he's carrying, holding what looks like one of those lights that help you see those Game Boy advance color screens a little bit better in the dark and you could play the game at night. It looked like one of those. And it came up to me and said, look at this light, you will feel no pain. So I looked at the light, and I felt no pain. And as I was feeling no pain, they were making little incisions on my left and right ankle. And I don't know if they took something out or put something in, but I still have those scars, one of each, each of my foot today. They were very gentle with me. It didn't hurt. It was very interesting. I remember when they took me off the table. It was almost like a doctor's appointment and the surgery was done or something. And I remember getting off the table, and then this. This gray came out from the corner. She was beautiful. I remember looking up at her, and she was, like, towering above me. What was interesting about this being is I knew that they worked like a hive, like a hive mind. She was tall, like probably about nine feet. The other grays are about three or four feet. And the gray that was with me since I was a child was about 6 to 7.5ft tall. So I could tell she was like the queen. And I spoke to her a lot more as I stood before her. I remember looking up. She was towering above me. They all spoke telepathically, a chatter I could barely understand. Their dialect consisted of clicks and chirps, like birds in my mind. But her voice was clear. She told me that they came from a sister solar system not far from us. She said that there is a galaxy not far from here and we visit often. When she named where they were from, it sounded like Galilee. But later, as I dove into research, I realized it wasn't Galilee. It was something closer to what the Betty and Barney Hill abductee story star map described in the Zeta Reticuli map. In the encounter, I recall them saying Galilee. Or at least that's what I thought I heard at the time. But later, when I delved into research, I realized I had misheard it. It wasn't Galilee. It was Gliese. I think the star system that referenced matched to Gliese catalog. There's like an 86 and a Gliese 82. It all fell into place. It was like their origin. And I finally understood. It struck me deeply because I realized it mirrored their own way of communication, not with just words. Though she also said she spoke Gaelic. And these are impressions and shapes, as if their language flowed and formed itself. In a strange way, it made perfect sense that she named her dialect Gaelic, as if their own dialect wasn't just spoken, but manifested a language of forms and meanings. In that moment, something struck me. I thought, wow. As A kid, I'd always dreamt of what this would be like to talk to these grays. And I just remembered the gray that was with me since I was a child. I just was like, man, this is cool, you know, the one that had been there with me, probably observing me all these years. I just simply looked at it and said, I'd like to see one of Saturn's moons, Titan. I was so interested with that planet and that moon as a kid, I had no idea why. I just had maybe a theory that there was water there. I then remember being escorted to a smaller ufo. A sleek pill ship shape, and it was almost cute compared to the larger craft that I had first entered. These ships were strange. They seemed to shift shape as if wished or formed whatever they imagined. I had no idea how their technology works, but it was fascinating, Almost as if the ships were truly alive. I remembered being guided into the smaller pill shaped craft. It was just so different. It wasn't a giant, overwhelming vessel. It was just simple, almost elegant. A smaller, intimate form. And the gray that had been with me since childhood was piloting it. I sat in the passenger seat. It was only a two seater and it just. Everything unfolded right before me. I was on Saturn's moon, Titan. The ground was black sand, like something from Hawaii. But beyond it there was this deep blue water. And there it was, Saturn's rings, perfectly horizontal, lining the horizon, just as I always imagined it. In that moment, every dream I had as a child, every wonder became real. I looked at the gray entity that's been with me my whole life, and I was speechless. I wanted to stay in that perfect stillness. But as I glanced at him, he gently asked, is there anywhere else you want to go? And in that suspended moment, time slowed. I didn't want to break that wonder. I was being asked to choose. And even though I couldn't fully grasp how vast it all was, I was simply overwhelmed with gratitude for the journey, for the wonder, and for being fully present in that infinite fleeting moment. After that, I had found myself back on a medium sized ship once again, standing in front of the queen. Her presence was so commanding and she said, give me your arm. And I offered it, almost like in a trance. And she placed something on my arm. I still can't say if it was a device or if she simply used her hands, but it was a brand, like you're branding a cow. And when she did that, she looked at me and told me, you are our familiar. In that moment, a sense of communion washed over me, a profound oneness. As if a universal center of being was pulling me in. It wasn't just that I was chosen. It was this idea that we are all connected. We are them and they are us. That we are one. I still have a picture from that day. A snapshot that anchors me to that moment after the alien abduction. My memory became hazy. Like a dream slipping away in the morning light. But the image, that single picture. I found myself back on that medium sized ship once again. And as soon as I got up, I realized I was in a different location. I looked down at my arm and I got marked with a sigil. I was in my living room when I was abducted. After I walked through those hurricane windows. And I ended up in my mother's room. When I came back, it was strange. It was like they were able to move me across space, but not perfectly. They have this structure, sense of design, but there's still this raw, imperfect edge. That they make mistakes. And so do I. And because of that photo, because I stayed still and held on to that moment, I know that I will never forget it again. And after the alien abduction, there was a series of days where I was flooded with these holographic vivid images. Where they came through dreams or some early stage of a time slip. There are so many things that I can't fully recall. But each night it was like a projection unfolding. Unreal but sharp. As if something was guiding me through these layers of time. Like peeling a layered onion. And in them, each image held a piece of the puzzle. Fragmented knowledge, cryptic signs all pointing toward a meaning I couldn't fully grasp. Yet. When I awoke in a different location after the alien abduction, I told myself if I don't take this photo, no one will believe me. They branded me as their familiar. And I took a photo. Within five minutes, the sigil was gone. And as I was taking the photo, my memory was starting to go with the encounter as well. But as I took the photo, I remembered everything. I didn't need hypnosis, nothing like that. I just recalled everything foreign.

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This final that I'm going to tell you is the forbidden knowledge that I was told by them. There was a series of days and I could remember one where the sky was impossibly blue. No animals, no birds, no clouds. The trees and the grass were still intact, untouched, not scorched. But every building across me was rubble. I could see for miles because living in South Florida, it's all flatland. So as I looked out, I saw my house and there was a few others still standing in the neighborhood. It was called Paradise Gardens. And amid complete destruction, I remember frantically I went back inside, rushing through the kitchen, out the back door and into the backyard. The fence was broken. Half of it was gone. And I. I saw him. The same gray alien, the one who had been with me all these years, peering out from behind the fence. Only this time, all I could see were his eyes, just like when he was watching me as a child. I looked at him confused, and he reached out his arm, guiding me with a slow motion, as if telling me, look at all this destruction. In that moment, he spoke to me telepathically inside my head, saying, we are called Planet Destroyers. You are our familiar. You are here to help us create the new world. This is the fifth world and it will end in fire. And in that moment, I realized what they meant by calling me their familiar. After all these years, the alien who had watched me since I was a child was finally telling me I wasn't just a passive observer. I was tied to their purpose, to their plan. I was chosen to walk with them as they created this new world. And everything I had ever questioned suddenly started to make a terrible, heavy sense. During the whole encounter, I never felt like they were malicious or had any harmful intent. They never physically hurt me and they didn't put me in any pain. In fact, I wasn't scared. I was just bewildered, awestruck by their vast knowledge of the expansive universe and their deep understanding of how limited we are in comparison. And because of that, I think I began to grasp the connections over time tying them to the Hopi prophecy, this ancient idea that I had once only heard whispers of. And it opened my eyes in ways I never experienced. After I was given a series of dreams and projections that lasted about three consecutive days. During this time, between 2010 and March of 2014, there were no further encounters, no visions, no sightings. Until that night of March 26th of 2020. I remember encountering a UFO mothership that was hovering in my neighborhood. On that night of 2014, I filed a MUFON UFO report about seeing a mothership. Truly the biggest craft I have ever witnessed. And I saw small, I saw medium, I saw large. I'd never seen this. This was huge. And it just hovered, suspended over my neighborhood one night and all the power went out around it. 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Florida had a current UFO alert rating of 3 with a high number of recent reports nationally. In fact, Florida had 39 UFO reports just in February of 2014, making it the second highest reporting state. And on that very night I submitted the report. Another sighting was filed the same day in Florida where a flood witness in Miami, driving on 8th street and 42nd Avenue with their kids saw and photographed the same UFO moving over very low over the commercial buildings. And the witness had noticed a single light floating by and they became curious. And this was covered as Florida dad kids chase low flying ufo. And that article was also taken down to an on examiner.com both reports, mine and that Miami's witness disappeared. But even though they're gone, I kept a copy of my report because something inside me knew that this was important. Those details, those dates, they were all part of a bigger story, One that had always been pulling me forward. It's been 17 years from the time I was 16 to now at 32. 17 years of wondering. 17 years of holding on to fragments. 17 years of searching for answers without ever forgetting the weight of what I experienced. And now, with what many people call the age of disclosure unfolding around us, I feel like every one of those scattered pieces has led me to this moment to finally tell my story, to finally speak my truth. And to remind myself and maybe someone else that even after all this time, my memories have never left me. And neither has my search for answers. My search will never stop because I experienced what I can only describe as a communion. I had a tour, I underwent what I felt like was a medical procedure. I was shown things I still struggled to explain. And I was told what I believed was forbidden knowledge. Whether people agree with my interpretation or not, these experiences changed me forever. For years I've carried them in silence. But over those 17 years, I came to realize something else. I'm not the only one There are others who have experienced something they can't explain. Others who have stayed quiet because they were afraid of being judged, ridiculed, or simply not believed. To those people, I want you to know you are not alone. I don't claim to have every answer. I don't know exactly what tomorrow holds. I don't know why these experiences happen to me. I don't know if I'll ever truly understand them. But I do know this. We shouldn't stay silent. Whether our experiences are ultimately explained through science, psychology, spirituality, faith, or something humanity hasn't yet discovered. These conversations matter, and they're very important. By sharing our stories and asking difficult questions and listening to one another, we move one step closer to understanding the bigger picture. Because I believe we are more connected than we realize. Connected to each other, connected to the universe. And perhaps connected to truths we haven't fully uncovered yet. I had my encounter. I met what I can only describe as a gray being. I am. Someone who believes I experienced an abduction. I had what felt like a communion, a tour, a medical procedure. And ever since then, I've been searching for the meaning behind it all. If there was a communion, then maybe one day there will be a reunion. Until that day comes, I'll keep asking questions. I'll keep searching. I'll keep listening. And I'll keep telling my story. Because if my journey has taught me anything, it's that the search for truth is just as important as the answers themselves. So thank you so much for listening.

[E]

Thank you for sharing all that, Amber.

[C]

Yes, you're very welcome. I hope it doesn't sound so crazy.

[E]

I've heard many accounts over the years. Take us back to 2003. When you're age 9. Did you understand what was happening at the time?

[C]

You know, funnily and interestingly enough, I was such a bright kid growing up. I was just very intuitive, observant and intellectual for my age. That I had a very deep and spiritual understanding with the world. And I felt deeply connected to it. I was always a weird kid. Growing up, I didn't have a hard time making friends, but I struggled with it. But when this was all happening to me at that time, I was very, very terrified. I thought they were demons. I thought, you know, maybe like this creepy, scary monster thing from one of those movies. But when I saw it, I knew it was organic. It was a real entity. It was a real thing that bled just like we do. And it had shaken my faith for sure. But I understood a little. But enough to know what was going on. And to know that this was. This was like an animal, in a way. Yeah.

[E]

And did you tell your parents what happened?

[C]

No, I kept it a secret for many years, even. I kept it for my mom and my aunt. I thought they would think I was crazy or they were gonna put me on medication or something. I was very afraid to say anything. I kept it to myself and I held onto it for many years. You know, I told some close friends, but I don't really think they cared, really. They just never had the same experiences. They've only seen ghosts and stuff like that. The paranormal, but not extraterrestrial. So I always went throughout my life asking people I met, have you ever seen aliens? You know, trying to find a connection with someone, but I never found that.

[E]

But your family would openly speak about paranormal events?

[C]

Yeah, we did have some poltergeist activity. We used to think our house growing up in South Florida was haunted. But these were all around the times and occurrences that I was being observed by aliens. So I can only imagine it was probably them, but they. They have had some similar experiences with poltergeist stuff in the house.

[E]

Okay. You've never discussed it with them ever?

[C]

I have now. Now I have, yeah. Since the movie Disclosure came out.

[E]

And Amber, how did they react to that?

[C]

They were. They were a little shocked. But, you know, they born and raised Christian. You know, them coming from Christian faith, they've been all open to the possibilities that there could be something out there. They're not like those clothes shut in Bible thumpers they have. You know, they're real and they believe me. And, you know, they had some things they can't explain, and they've seen some things that I have, like the UFOs and strange things in the sky. And so they're not closed up to the idea that, you know, maybe there isn't anything out there. They think that there is something out there too.

[E]

Okay, and this one individual gray that you believe you've interacted with before, what gave you the first impression that particularly knew this one Grey?

[C]

It was a very deeply, profound, intimate like feeling. It was almost as if I could look at you and I know your name, I know your age, I know your birthday. It was just interpersonal. As soon as I looked at the gray, I just knew this was the gray from when I was 8 years old. This is the same gray that when I was 16. Same height, same body structure. Their body structures are all very similar, but they just have some unique characteristics to them that you could kind of make them out. But it was more than that. It was more than just a physical attribute to differentiate them. It was more of just the feeling of knowing. It just surrounded everything.

[E]

And did they always communicate with you telepathically? Was there any verbal interactions?

[C]

There was. The last three days after the abduction, I had a long talk with the one that told me that they were Planet Destroyers, the same Gray that had visited me as a child. They were just very adamant about wanting to tell people who they were and why they were here. It was both. That's the most important part, too. After he told me that they were plant Destroyers, I got very angry with it. And instead of talking to them telepathically, like I had been for many years, I used my verbal voice and I just yelled at him and I said, where is everyone? Where did they go? And he used the words. They were raptured. And now, at 16, I never read the Book of Revelations. I haven't even opened the Bible, so I didn't know what that word meant. I didn't know it was a tribulation and time of judgment. But he said that they were raptured and that I stayed behind to help them create the new world. But I do remember there was that. The verbal me yelling at it. I didn't speak to it telepathically that time. I was very upset. I was almost distraught.

[E]

And they said they were Planet Destroyers.

[C]

Mm.

[E]

It's got some very negative connotations to that.

[C]

You know, I want to say yes, but it was almost like they had some sort of. They followed a law or a decree. It was almost like they couldn't touch a singular blade of grass or a tree without first going to a higher up. And I don't know if it's God or not, but they did have a deep sense and appreciation for Mother Nature. And like I said in that vision where everything was destroyed after he told me he was. Was a planet destroyer, I did notice that not a single blade of grass or tree was touched. But there was fire and debris, and the houses were rubble. It's almost like anything man made was destroyed. But everything Mother Nature created was kept, like, perfect, in pristine condition.

[E]

Well, that's something to look forward to, Amber. Yeah, so they relayed that this is like a process they do. They go from world to world.

[C]

I would say it seems like it's a type of agenda. Yes. And I think they're highly advanced enough to be able to make deals and this and that with our government. I think. I think they're very powerful. I do believe that we do have reverse engineered some of their technology for bad. I think it's only a matter of time before they do come back. It's interesting to me, which was the

[E]

most the clearer of your encounters? Was it the age 9 or age 16?

[C]

It was definitely both. I was in close contact with them face to face, inches apart. You know, the first encounter with them at 8 or 9 stuck with me until I was 16. And when I finally got to see them again, I felt more closer to them. Like they were family and friends that I could talk to instead of running away from and trying to avoid, I would say at 16, though, I was was given so much information from 16 to 32. I think I made my family a little crazy just researching this and that. And they were always wondering why I was so heavily invested in it. They sat up with me listening to alien abductee interviews and stuff. They just found it interesting. So it entertained them, that's for sure. But I was that crazy person with the board trying to link everything to everything, to make sense of it all.

[E]

And you were never afraid?

[C]

No, just When I was 8 or 9, I was definitely afraid. Not, not so much anymore now, no. And when it was happening at 16? No. Because my whole life I had born and I wanted to know if there was any secrets to the universe. I wanted to know the truth of it all. Why are we here? That was the question that always kept me around was why are we here? And I figured maybe we'll know that in our time. Or not, I'm not sure. But that was one question that followed me ever since I was born. And I feel like I know a part of it. We can't know the whole thing because I think it would be very complex to break down and really hard for our little small minds to comprehend it.

[E]

Was there any physical effects that you experienced?

[C]

Yeah, I isolated myself a lot. I have a lot of health issues since then. They kind of all just started in 2020 and then my health has been in a slow down decline since then. I've been in and out of the hospital since my abductions. Doctors can never figure out what's going on with me, but I have seen a plethora amount of specialists and I'm still trying to get to the bottom of what's going on so I can get some more answers. But yeah, it hasn't impacted me physically and mentally.

[E]

Okay, so the ongoing health issues.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

What about your sleep patterns? Have you always been a good sleeper?

[C]

I've been a good sleeper, yes. There's Been a lot of nights. I can't fall asleep, though. I'm kind of just waiting for them to come back in a way. So I do end up just kind of laying there pining at the sky or staring at my ceiling, kind of waiting for them to come back. It's been 17 years, I think, of a gap or several that I haven't had contact with them. 16 years old was the last time I had contact. So there is a sense of when will they come back? Or if they're going to come back at all.

[E]

What about your dreams? Have you ever suffered from nightmares?

[C]

No, never. I actually used to remember all my dreams and now I can't.

[E]

And have you ever had any dreams that have this kind of elements involved?

[C]

No, not at all. Those were the most real. Yeah.

[E]

And you mentioned like a branding, like a sigil. Can you describe to us what it was?

[C]

Yes, of course. It looks like a triangle, but it's not pointy. It's more rounded at the top and has a very thin left line to the left. And then to the right, it kind of swoops down and you're still keeping that open triangle symbol. And then it goes up and it kind of makes like this teardrop in the middle. And then there's another line to the right of it. And then in the middle, at the bottom, there's a dot. And they marked me with it like a brand and said, you are our familiar. Well, that's what the queen said. So I thought it was very interesting to me because you start hearing about these people, like Amy Erickson, the scientists, says that we're them and they are us. They're just more ahead in the future than we are. So all that's just very compelling. It's very complex. And I feel like I have more research to do now.

[E]

Okay. And you have an image of it?

[C]

Yes, I do. Yes.

[E]

If you send it to us. And what I do is I add it to the website when we upload your. Your episode. And the queen, do you think she was superior? Like a leader, maybe?

[B]

More.

[E]

More of like an overseer.

[C]

Oh, yeah. She was the head of it all. She was like the queen ant. Without her, there's no hive. They went to her for everything. She had a sense of diplomacy.

[E]

Diplomacy, okay. And was she kind? Was she kind to you?

[C]

Yes, she was. She was very stern and very soft spoken. But, yeah, very stern. Just remember her voice being very stern. Like, this is important knowledge. Don't forget it.

[E]

And your ankles now, what do you think they did to your Ankles that I'm not sure.

[C]

I do have a lot of issues walking and getting around. Ever since that I had these incisions done on my ankles. I don't know if something was put in. I don't know if something was taken out. I just know after these initial incisions were made, I've had a hard time keeping my balance, walking. I have blood flow issues and blood pooling to my legs, to my ankles, and I just have a hard time standing up for long periods of time. It's actually affected my ability to work and hold a job.

[E]

Okay, and are they in identical places on your ankles? They mirrored.

[C]

Yes, they're mirrored. Identical. One on the left and one on the right on the inner ankle?

[E]

They're both on the inner sides.

[C]

Mm. Yeah.

[E]

So kind of like in an area where the veins run straight down, Is it that. That kind of area?

[C]

Well, you know, the ball of the ankle.

[E]

Sure, yeah.

[C]

Little ball joint. Yep. Right above it. Both of them on each side.

[E]

Have you gone to or spoken to any professionals about this?

[C]

No, never. I'm scared to.

[E]

Specifically about your ankles.

[C]

I mean, I feel like they would say I'm crazy. I feel like I'd have to say something that sounds normal or natural to have them look at it like I, you know, I might have sprained my ankle. Can you have a little imaging of it done? You know, I have had those before because after my encounters with that, I have sprained my ankles a few times and gotten my legs shut. But none of them have ever come back and said, we found this in your ankle. And I've never seen the images personally after they take X rays, so I couldn't tell you.

[E]

So they've never mentioned. There's never been any mention or anything of anything in particular?

[C]

No. Yeah. No.

[E]

Okay. So would you say these experiences have affected you to a degree in everyday life?

[C]

I would say yes, in a. In good ways more than bad, because I'm always the type of. I'm the type of person that loves science, that loves philosophy, and just diving into the deeper understanding and mysteries of life and the expanding universe itself, that it's just kept my eyes open and alert, excited for what? More disclosure and what. More stories can we hear now that were once hidden?

[E]

You know, do you think there's a particular reason why they. They visited you?

[C]

I do, yes. I think it's because I can handle the truth.

[E]

Okay, so if you could say something to our listeners out there, what would be your takeaway about these experiences?

[C]

I feel like they won't fight back unless you provoke them or if you do something to them. I do believe if you're kind to them, they will be kind to you. If you encounter them, they do have a very strong sense of urgency, I think, whether it's to save their race or us, or to take care of the planet like they want to, in whatever way they do. I just think there are a lot of different encounters and stories and people will have different experiences and not all of them are the same, whether there are different species and races. I do know that the Greys that I met were not malicious. But I know anyone that encounters them for the first time would have mixed reactions. But as long as you stay calm and you encounter them with an open mind and you're there to understand and listen, that it could be a very profoundingly spectacular experience and it shouldn't be scary.

[E]

And has your interpretation of these experiences changed over the years?

[C]

It's made me more of a open minded individual. It's kept my eyes a little more open lately these days than a couple years back. They've reshaped my reality a lot. I still believe in God. I do believe in the Almighty High. I do believe that he possibly created these things, but I do believe that these things also listen to God. There's just this weird connection that these might be fallen angels or the Nephilim, but we shouldn't make them out to be like dark demonic entities. I think they're just trying to survive, just like we are.

[E]

And has any of the information that they have shown you, has it ever influenced any of your life's decisions?

[C]

No, only the fact that it. It's very, very close in pars right up to the Hopi prophecy of this ancient tribe that was around in the early 1800s, I believe, and they're still around today. And if you look up the Hopi prophecy, it talks about the first, the second, the third, the fourth world, these graves. They told me that this was the fifth and that it would end in fire. So I do spend my time pondering, wondering when that day will come. I'm not sure when, but I think it's interesting to me. I think they're trying to get a narrative out and maybe this is a part of our origin story. And just like the ancient hieroglyphs on the walls, this could be their way of kind of passing along the message so that our history isn't forgotten too.

[E]

Do you feel that parts of your experiences have been blocked? That there's parts missing that you don't remember?

[C]

I Remember everything. There's not one part that I don't feel like I can't remember. It's just that one part with the incisions on my ankles. I don't know if they put something in or took something out. But other than that, everything I have recalled without the use of hypnosis or electric therapies, nothing like that. No meditation, any. It's just that one picture is the reason why I remember it all.

[E]

Was there anything that they ever told you that they said it was only for you and not to share?

[C]

Yes. Good stuff. Okay, thank you so much. Your podcast is awesome. I listened to a few others and I just. I could lay there on my couch and just stare at the sky and listen to these stories. And I just find it so therapeutic because, you know, going throughout all these years and not having any answers, but listening to people who have similar stories, that's so therapeutic because there are so many people that have these experiences and they just don't know what to do.

[E]

So. It's a strange world, Amber.

[C]

It is. It is, truly. But, you know, that mystery keeps us up at night and also just happy to be alive, really. We just got to keep on, on keeping on.

[E]

Keep on keeping on indeed. Amber, I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.

[C]

I'm really glad to be here. Thank you. Thank you for having me.

[E]

It's been wonderful to meet you. Okay, take care of yourself and we will speak soon.

[C]

You too. Thank you.

[E]

Okay, bye. Bye for now.

[C]

Bye.

[E]

Well, that is all for this episode. Keep updated and connected with the show on X, Facebook and Instagram. And if you have an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast. Podcast, you can email [e-mail] or you can reach out to me via the contact page on my website, ufocronicles podcast.com a big thank you to Amber for sharing tonight and thank you all for listening. I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye.

[A]

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