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Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
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Carl's Jr. Spokesperson
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[03:02]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
UWA517, do you want to report a UFO?
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[03:06]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
We don't want to report Ares 31. Do you wish to report a UFO hover?
[03:12]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Nada.
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Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
We want to report one of those either. Ares 31, do you wish to file a report of any kind of it? I wouldn't know what kind of report to file, sir. Ares 31, me neither. There are seven one Papa Golf, go ahead. And was there anybody. That stunt above us that passed us like 30 seconds ago. Seven one top of golf.
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Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Okay. UFO.
[03:39]
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[03:41]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Yeah, something just passed over like a. Don't know what it was, but it's at least 2,3000ft above us. So yeah, I passed right over the top of it. 911. You guys busy? We just called off the vehicle as we thought. They're out there. Same airplanes. Bob, I swear to God. Four calls in on an unidentified object over liberty.
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Carl's Jr. Spokesperson
Four calls.
[04:09]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Four calls on an unidentified flying object. All right, we'll check it out.
[04:17]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had an encounter and would like to be on the show, you can email me@ufochroniclesmail.com foreign.
[04:49]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Hello everyone.
[04:50]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Great to have you here tonight. I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight our guest is Jay and he joins us from New York State to share experiences throughout his life, beginning with a cylindrical craft above the trees during childhood and a blue light that flooded his family's home years later. His account includes a near death encounter with a vast golden light, unexplained voices, geometric symbols, and more recently, his wife claims to be communicating telepathically with a mantis like entity known as Stella. Jay is up next. But first, if you enjoy the show and you would like to help support the podcast on Patreon, you can do this for as little as $1 a month. Head on over to patreon, patreon.com forward/ufo chronicles podcast. You can also find a link in the description of this episode. Any help is very much appreciated. Now, on with the show. Hello, Jay. Welcome to the podcast.
[06:04]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Hi. It's nice to be here.
[06:05]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
It's great to have you here. And you're coming to us from New York State?
[06:09]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
That's correct.
[06:10]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Great stuff. Okay, now, Jay, you have several experiences you're going to be sharing with us tonight. Would you like to start at the beginning, please, sir?
[06:18]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Yeah, sure. All right. So I've lived most of my life in Troy, New York. I've had a lot of strange experiences, paranormal experiences, just stuff I don't know how to explain. But, you know, my. My first sighting was maybe around 6 years old. I remember looking out of my window or my mom's window in the second floor of the building that we lived at, seeing our backyard. And right behind our backyard there's a hillside that goes down to a creek and the hill goes back again on the other side. So it's all forested area. It's right up against Oakwood Cemetery. And I remember seeing a cylindrical craft that is kind of copperish brown. And along the midsection of it was different colored lights. So there was yellow and blue, red. So, you know, that was my first experience. And seeing something like that, being that young, I didn't know what it was. I just, you know, write it off, whatever, and move on. So. But as time went on, you know, my mom told me that I. I had been having night terrors when I was a kid, so I would wake up in the middle of the night screaming with no apparent reason as to why I was doing that. Also, with a history of migraines around that time, so nothing else really happened until around the age of 13. Around that time, I was living with my family in Lansingburg. And directly across from our house, there was a craft that lifted off of or from behind a commercial building that was across the street from our house. So from what my experience was, what I had seen was I remember being on the staircase and the house being completely bathed in a blue light. So my mother was downstairs looking out the bay window, you know, and my father was. Was there as well. And they were asking, you know, well, what was that? You know, talking to each other, because they weren't sure what it was either, you know, where the blue light was. My mom, you know, before that, you know, on accounts of my brother telling me, because I don't I don't remember it, but my brother told me that mom had woken up because she thought it was morning time, that that's how bright the light was. So she went down to go make the coffee, and that's when she looked at the clock and realized that, I mean, it's not morning time, nowhere near. So she. That's when they started to question what was going on. But from my perspective, I only got to see the light, you know, sitting on the stairs, and then said that, you know, I don't. I don't want to deal with this, and then went back to sleep. So I went back to my bed to go to sleep. But from my. What my brother tells me is that they continued to watch the. The craft rise from. From behind that building across the street into the sky until, like, the daylight hours came. So it had been a long time. He said that at some point that the cops had arrived and the police officers arrived and they talk to my mom about what was going on, and they. They weren't sure what it was either that was in the sky. So the next one would probably be, you know, around the age of 18, I had a near death experience. I don't want to get into the specifics of how that happened, but I. I remember losing consciousness. So. And then after I lost consciousness, the next thing I remember seeing was a really bright golden light as far as I can see in any direction. I couldn't see my hands, I couldn't see the nose on my face. I couldn't see anything but that gold light. You know, I was confused because I remembered what had happened before I was there, and I didn't understand how I got there or what was going on, you know, so I was very confused. So. And as I was thinking about those things in my head, the corners of my vision started to get black. So it was like a pitch black on the corners. And then that the black on the corners continued to get larger in my field of view until I realized that what I was looking at was a giant golden circle. So. And as I continue to look at it, you know, confused, trying to figure out what's going on, the circle seems to be getting smaller and smaller as time goes on, and then it disappears and I'm just there in nothing. It was complete darkness, black. And I was there in the black for, you know, maybe 10, 15 seconds before I was able to open my eyes. And I was aware and conscious the whole time. I was having that experience all the way up past the time that I opened my Eyes, you know, so that's part of the reason why I still remember it, which is, you know, kind of weird. You know, I thought about it a little bit as I've gotten older, you know, and I think that what I seen may have been the beginning. You know, it could have been the beginning of everything. There's the black, which is the off, and the all light, which is the on. So you have binary, so zeros and ones that may be the foundation of reality itself that I observed. I'm not sure, but that was my experience with that. So. When I was 22, I had an incident where I was alone in my house and I had work in the morning. It was a late night. I decided to go to sleep. When I laid my head down on the pillow, I heard two voices talking with each other in a language that I'd never heard before. There was. I kind of can recognize certain languages, like, you know, French or German or Russian or Mandarin or this language. I just. I couldn't put my finger on it. So, I mean, it caught me by surprise. I lifted my head back up off the pillow and listened. And I didn't hear it. There was. There was nothing there. So I put my head back down on the pillow and I heard it again. Took my head off the pillow. I didn't hear it. So I just moved my pillow to the other side of the bed and laid down, and I didn't hear it anymore. So I went about my business, went back to sleep, and went about going to work the next morning. So around the age of 21, I had an incident where I felt like there was a. A presence in the apartment building that I was at. This is well after my nde. So the feelings I get, it's kind of weird. It's like if you leave a television on and it's black screen, there's no sound or, you know, image on it. It's just black screen. There's this, I don't know, energy sound. I don't know how to describe it. Just a feeling that comes with that. I've also. There's a similar feeling when I listen to, like, a 19,000 hertz on a speaker. So I get that same kind of feeling. But in any case, I think that may have something to do with these entities, you know, and they're. Whatever energy or vibration that they have whenever they're around, it gives off that frequency. There's also a Doppler effect with that. So, you know, if they were to walk in front of something, that energy kind of Gets muffled down and I can, there's like a shift there. But in any case, I, I had this experience where, you know, I was in the building, nobody else was there, and I felt it moving around and I called it out and I, you know, I let it know. I said, hey, you know, I know you're there. I know you're there walking around. I don't know what you're doing or why you're there, but I know you're there. And as soon as I said it, man, this thing, it got in my face. It felt like it was nose to nose with me. The energy was off the charts, you know, and it, it made me feel uncomfortable just how close it was to me to the point where I had to leave. I left the building and did some other things and then eventually came back and I didn't feel it again. So. Which is nice because, you know, I'd have to move if I just kept feeling that feeling is it was that uncomfortable. Right. So the next experience I would have had was probably in 2022 where I was, I was having an existential crisis where I felt as though that we were just meat machines, just computers, you know, and that when we cease to exist, we cease to exist. And it was, it was really bothering me. I was having panic attacks, you know, high anxiety for a couple days. So on the second day, you know, I was getting ready to go to sleep and lay down and I was having a whole lot of problems with it. A lot of anxiety. For one of the few times in my life I prayed in my head and I said, God, please take this pain away from me. You know, maybe there's certain things that I shouldn't know or maybe, you know, I shouldn't look into this. But that night after I did that, I went to sleep. While I was sleeping, I had a, a dream that was, it was a very vivid dream that may be an abduction. I'm not sure. I mean it could be a screen memory placed on. So. But in any case, the, the dream goes that I was, I was standing behind a white sprinter like van that the doors open up sideways. To the left of me was a man with, you know, he looked like a blue collar man. He had short hair, like short, short beard hair, had like a blue button up T shirt with jean pants. We were on the road on the, the wrong side of the road if you're in America. Next to that was the, the curb and then the grass and then the sidewalk and then there was a small hill with grass on it. That had concrete stairs that led up to like a colonial style house with like a wrought iron handrails. So, you know, it's a pretty detailed dream that I'm having. And you know, I, I turn to my left, I look at the guy and I ask, why are we here? I had to really push to get the why are we here? Out. And it had like a reverb to it when I said it. And he turned his head. Not his body, just his head. He turned his head and looked at me with a blank expression on his face. And in that moment the scene changed. We were no longer behind the van. Now we were in something I would describe as a, like a high school laboratory. So there was these big windows with the long slat blinds that, that go sideways, you pull the string and the slat turns. So and then there was a black linoleum style countertop with pine cabinetry underneath of that. And right in front of that was a kind of like an island with the same black linoleum countertop and pine cabinetry underneath. That was maybe seven feet long, like four foot wide. So the guy that I had seen in the previous part of the dream was a step back from me, maybe one person length, because I remember looking to my left, looking back and seeing the guy there. So but he, again, he had this blank expression on his face. Directly in front of me, maybe about 10ft, was a man with long hair that came down to his shoulder. It was very curly, kind of like a poodle. And it was a salt and pepper, so it was both gray and dark color. He had a white button up T shirt with khaki pants, you know, Caucasian looking man, not sure, but it was a light skin. And again I'm standing here and I look at him and again I ask, why are we here? So again it's the same reverb and it's the same force. You know, I had to really work at it to say, why are we here? And the moment I said that, he, he kind of tilted his head, looked surprised, then looked annoyed, and then rushed toward me with an amazing speed. I don't know how to describe it. That 10ft was nothing for this person. So his right hand came up from his side and then came close to my left eye or my temple. So as soon as that happened, I woke up in my bed. I had sleep paralysis. I couldn't move. You know, I wasn't numb. I could feel my wife's arm or my, my wife's head on my arm. And there was this symbol Made of light in my left eye. So the symbol looked kind of similar to Triskelion with the way that it was set up. We had three lines coming out from a centralized point with like, I don't know, 30, maybe 33° turns on it to create a triangle overall shape. And on each one of those lines, there was three symbols on each part of the line where it would, it would bend. So the flat part would be one symbol, and then it would bend and then another symbol, and then it would bend and then there's another symbol. So on each line it's the. The same three symbols. So the first symbol was something that I figured out to be a evergreen tree. The second symbol is what I believe to be a lion. And then the third symbol was the hardest for me to figure out that was. It looked like a torus, but there was three of them that made a triangular shape. So over time, you know, trying to figure out what this thing is, you know, I looked at it from different angles like it was spirituality, you know, in the Christian faith and, and some other things, trying to figure out what's going on. But ultimately, I, I think they, they answered my question when I asked, why are we here? So I think what they showed me was a evolution of consciousness. So we start off as something as simple as a plant or a tree, and then, you know, graduate to something more complex like an animal, such as a lion, and then something even more complex as the. Those three Taurus, you know. But I had no reference point to that until I had another experience later, which I'll get into. But the, the symbol made of light. Every time my heart beat, the. The light would flash. It would be like this bright bluish white color, and then it would fade to a goldish yellow. And then my heart would beat and it would flash to that light blue white, and then fade back to the goldish yellow. Like it was linked to my heartbeat somehow. Also, in my right eye, there was a similar thing going on. There wasn't the same symbol, but there was a line on the bottom part of my eye that looked kind of like a straw with the adjustable neck. So it went straight and then it got crooked and bent down. So every time my heart would beat, it would also flash the same color as the symbol. So obviously I'm freaked out. I mean, I'm laying in bed, I'm screaming in my mind, help me. Because, you know, I'm just. I'm really freaking. This is the only. The first time I've ever had that happen to me. Where I can't move and I had something in my face. But over time, the brightness of the symbol started to fade. And then I was able to get up. So while I couldn't move, I wanted to try to study it. You know, even though I was freaking out, you know, there wasn't much else I could do other than study the image and try to remember what it looked like, which is really hard when, you know, you're under that kind of stress. So as soon as I was able to got up, I went to the bathroom immediately, looked into my eye, you know, to see what was going on. And then I went to my computer and started sketching it out because I, I didn't want to forget, you know, what I had seen. I, I still can't forget what I've seen. You know, I, when I think about it, I see the image in my mind. There was that. And then weeks later, I had another experience where I woke up and it was 4 o' clock in the morning because I, I remember looking at the clock after the experience. So floating above my feet, maybe two feet, was a ring made of light, like an LED ring light, something very similar to that. But the inside there was flames made of shadow. So the part that touched the ring of light was the darkest part on each flame and the tip was the, the lightest. So it was almost like a grayish white, almost like smoke toward the tips. So the flames weren't connected, they were separated, similar to like a flag would be separated. So they're their own distinct triangular shapes and a odd number. So maybe nine to 11, I'm not sure exactly what, but I remember there being an odd number. I call them flames because they moved like a flame does. So they waved like a flame would. And they also bifurcated. So the tips on the, each one of those flames, at some point they would bifurcate and then you'd have two tips on the flame and then the flame would come back together. And the closest reference I have to something doing that would be a flame. So I didn't feel threatened by it. And because of the previous experience that I had, you know, before, I was still kind of in shock from what I had happened with that, you know, and I just, I didn't want to deal with it. So I said, I'm not dealing with this. And I turned, looked at the clock and said, I'm going back to sleep. So, you know, that, that was that. But I think that that ring of light may be the third symbol that I seen or the the, sir. The third symbol that I had seen in the symbol. So the, the third item, I don't know what you want to call it, but you know, the three Taurus that were at the end is that. That was one of those. So I think that they had sent that here so that I had a reference point to understand what that is. I know what a tree looks like, you know, I know what an evergreen tree looks like. I know what a lion looks like, but I don't know, you know, what reference I would have to those Taurus in the, in the shape of a triangle. The three Taurus. It just didn't make sense to me. So I think that maybe, you know, that was part of it. So another thing with the, the symbol, when I had that experience was the next day when I woke up, my left eye hurt really bad. Like I had been punched in my eye. You know, I didn't have any bruising, but it definitely hurt. When I went to my job, you know, my, my brother and my nephew, they work with me, and they noticed that I was off. You know, I wasn't being the funny person that I used to be, the energetic person I used to be. And, you know, they noticed that I was just. There was something wrong, so they asked me about it and I. I jokingly told them that I. I think I got. I think I got punched in the eye by an angel last night, you know, and they laughed it off. And I, I explained my experience to them as well. So they didn't know what to make of it and thought it was kind of weird. But, you know, we went about our day. So a few days after I seen the ring of light in my bed, when I woke up, I was laying in my bed getting ready to go to sleep. I hadn't quite got there yet, but with my eyes closed, laying in the bed, there was a bright light, like a singular point of light that looked like it rushed toward me and then it seemed like it was a person. So my eyes were closed. And I know I'm not dreaming. I'm laying in my bed, but there's this being made of light. So it was a silhouette kind of thing. Like, there wasn't any details of, like a nose or eye or mouth or anything like that. It was just. It was this golden light being in front of me. The torso view, I could see the arms, I could see the chest and, you know, the stomach area and the head, and it was holding its hands in what I found out later was in a mudra position. So the Left hand was pointed up, like at the shoulder level, pointing toward the right shoulder, and the right hand was at the waist pointing up. So because this thing came at me with the speed that it did, it startled me. And I immediately opened my eyes and pulled back away from it. And it wasn't in the room with me, but it was more like it was. It was in my mind like an image that I was seeing similar to. Like a memory. Like if you were to remember something, you see it in your. In your head. So something similar to that. But like I said, I was just laying in the bed, and this singular point of light became this light being who made that Mudra. Again, it caught me off guard. So, and then a few days after that, again, I'm laying in bed, and while I'm laying in bed with my eyes closed, I see a geometric shape. And I. I'm not sure what the geometric shape was at that time, but after, you know, looking into it and trying to figure out what it was, I. I found that it was the. The seed of life. So it was kind of like, I don't know. So there's two different ways that I see things. So with memories, it's kind of like two screens. So if you have two screens and one is overlaid onto the other one, so you know what I'm seeing in real life in real time. Right? So that would be your primary screen. And then like the memory bit would be like an overlaid, opaque version of the other, whatever is going on. So your memory. So this is totally different. So what I'm talking about is like your eyelids being closed and then seeing an image on the back side of your eyelid. So it made of, like, I don't know, like, light, but it's a very faint, shadowy light. So it's hard to tell the difference between the darkness of the. Behind the eyelid and it. But there is, like a slight shade difference between the two. But what I had seen was the seed of life. So at that point, that's when I started to look into what all these symbols could be meaning. Like I said, I look, you know, tried to figure out what the Mudra meant, you know, what the Mudra was to begin with. I didn't even know what a Mudra was at that point. So, you know, I looked into that and I looked into the seed of life and it. And the. The ring of light with the flames made of shadow. And that brought me to researching Kashmir Shivaism. So, you know, I was looking into maybe there was some kind of A connection there with Shiva. So you know, as throughout my research at that point, you know, I started to look into the Monroe Institute and then I, I tried the Hemi sync. So you know, I put the video on the YouTube and put the, the headphones on and tried to do the Hemi sync that they have. So and I think I may have done a remote viewing inadvertently while doing that because I wasn't sure it was going to do anything. So I just wanted to try it out and see what happens. So I was laying on my couch, I had the headphones on, I was listening to the beat and it was weird. It wasn't like I fell asleep, but there was this sensation. And then because I had my eyes closed, I seen what looked kind of like cartoon bubbles. You know, like a cartoon where they would have the thought bubble that would come up and then they'd have like the text in there. So something similar to that. So it started off with a couple bubbles and then the bubbles got bigger until it was like one big bubble. And I seen what looked like a woman's hand. I assume it was a woman because there was no hair on her hand and had, she had really nice nails, like kept up nails. But in any case she was sitting at like a pine wood table or a light wood colored table. She had her hand on a stick or a gray colored stick that was in a Stanley cup. So it was a gray colored Stanley cup with like a stainless steel rim around it. The water inside the cup was a gray color and then there was flecks of white and black that were in there. So after thinking about that for a while, you know, I came to the realization that I think she was painting. So those flecks of the white and the black were part of whatever paint that was on the brush and she had that in the cup and was washing the brush off. So it didn't tie into anything. But at the time, you know, I didn't have any targets. I wasn't thinking about anything specific. You know, I was just trying the Hemi sync and seeing what happens. And that was the experience had happen. Yeah.
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So and then be around 2022, we had our youngest son around 2023. He was about 1 years old and he started having experiences where he would, he would wake up and he'd start screaming and you know, we check on him and when we go to check on him, he was standing up in his crib and he was pointing up. So we weren't really sure what was going on there. But you know, it was just, it was a strange experience that we had noticed. So at the same time in 2023, you know, not exactly the same day, but around, you know, in that year, I had witnessed a, a gray, a gray being or an entity. But it looked different than, you know, what most people would say. So this, so what had happened was I was in the bathroom, using the bathroom. I got out the bathroom, walking down the hallway and there's another hallway to my right hand side that leads to the bedrooms. So I looked to my right as I was walking down the hallway and I looked down the other hallway that goes to the bedrooms and there was a shadow entity on the wall. So it looked as though it was a two dimensional representation of a gray entity or the closest I can say that it looked like would maybe be the, the Bob entity. So but in any case it was maybe 3 foot tall, 3 to 3 to 4 foot tall, had large almond shaped eye, it was a side profile as if it was walking down the hallway going into the bedrooms and it was mid step. So you know, it had a little bump out for the nose. I could see the chin and with a shadow you shouldn't be able to see the definition. You know where, you know where the chin is underneath where the neck is, the, where the chin and the neck meet there. There shouldn't be any definition there, but I definitely saw the line that separates the chin from the neck. So, you know, and the eye on it was dark, almost black compared to the gray color the rest of it was. It had a very skinny neck. It looked kind of frail to begin, you know, to be honest, with this large head. So its shoulders weren't very wide. Had pretty long arms, maybe three fingers that are at least twice the length of a human finger on each one of its hands. It had very skinny legs and the feet looked kind of long, but not as long as the hands. Didn't look like it was wearing clothes. But like I said, it was in mid step. So I think it froze as it was moving. I think it noticed that I noticed it and stopped moving when I did that. So when I seen it, my first reaction was, is, oh, it's just my son wearing the rake costume. Because at that time my older son liked to wear his Halloween costume around the house. So, you know, when I first seen it, that was the first thought that came to my mind is, oh, it's just my boy wearing his costume. So I turned back and then took a few more steps forward and then realized that the son that I just thought was wearing the costume was sitting at the computer and he wasn't wearing the costume. So immediately have I put two and two together and I'm like, that's not my son. So I took the steps back and then looked down the hallway and the thing that I had just seen was gone. It disappeared. So I don't know if it was my brain trying to rationalize what I had just seen or it put that thought in my head so that I would just go about my business and leave it alone. So in that, the Same year in 2023, my older son had an incident where he went to get some snacks off of the stand up fridge or freezer that we have. So when he did that, he climbed up on one of the chairs to get up there to go get it. And he said when he did that, he seen a triangular shaped head poke out around the corner and look at him. And when he seen it, it caught him off guard and he kind of stumbled on the chair and fell down. He didn't hurt himself or anything like that, but he just, he caught himself while he did it. And he says that the entity made an audible woe sound. And you know that that was what he told me about that incident. So the same year, my wife starts having multiple instances of seeing me Home while I'm not home. So I think the first one she has is she went down into the basement to go put something there, and she had seen me standing there in my pajamas. So at that time I was at work. There's no way that I was at home. She obviously wasn't seeing me. She said that whatever it was, wasn't making any kind of movement, as though it didn't even realize that she was there. So that was the first time, but it wasn't the last time that she's experienced me, but not me at my house. There's been a lot more than a handful, probably like 20 to 25 other instances where she's seen me at home even though I'm not there. You know, not just the person, but she's also seen me like, driving my work truck out in front of the house. But obviously I'm not there. So, you know, there's no way that I could be there. There was an instance where my wife and my daughter both seen my oldest son sitting at the computer, but my son was still in school at the time, so there was no way that my. My son could have been home sitting at the computer. So my wife raised that point to my daughter. And then when, when they, when she told her that, she said that they both seen the. The entity or the person who looked like my son sitting at the computer disappear, oofed out of nowhere. So the next instance, it would probably be, you know, it's September, around September of 2024. My wife, she is laying out on the. The couch with my. My younger son. And by that time I'm already in the room, I'm laying down, and, you know, I'm getting ready for. For work, you know, getting ready to go to work for the next day. So I need to go to sleep. So I go to sleep. And while I'm sleeping, she says that she. She got up, she went to go get a drink, and she had a feeling to come and check on me. So. And then because of the strange experiences that we were having, she felt like she should bring the camera too. So she brought the camera with her to the bedroom after she got her drink, and as soon as she entered the doorway, she took three photos in the room. So later on, she woke me up at maybe like 12:30, you know, and she seemed pretty. Pretty excited, you know, concerned. She. She wasn't sure what she had taken a photo of. So the first two photos that she taken were completely black. There was not. There was nothing on them. I mean, so you know, they were kind of useless. But the third photo that she had taken, it showed something in it. So she showed me. I woke up, I wasn't quite sure what was going on because I just woke up and I'm like, okay, you know, whatever, just, you know, I'll look at it later. I'm not sure what you got there. So I, I went back to sleep. So over time, you know, and studying the photo, I realized that the photo, it looks a lot like the, the, the entity in the photo that was taken during the C5 contact with Dr. Stephen Greer. So it has a very triangular shaped head with, it's wearing a, wearing clothes similar to like, you know, loose fitting, long sleeved clothes. The, the hands, or what you would consider hands or fingers look similar where they sweep back. Similar to. In his photo, you know, the one that my wife took also has like a little blue orb in it similar to how, you know, his has a bunch of small blue dots in it. So, you know, I put two and two together and I believe that the photo she had taken was of one of those mantis entities that Greer had taken a photo of or had somebody take a photo of in the, the C5 during the C5 contact. So, you know, after that, you know, I start looking into Gnosticism and you know, if maybe that has something to do with, you know, I wanted to look at all avenues here because I'm trying to gather information on what's going on. I would like to say that this, this is one of the most complex questions that anybody can, can ask, you know, what is the nature of reality itself? You know, and trying to understand who we are, what we are, you know, where we belong in it, you know, and I, I'm not the smartest guy out there, so, you know, I'm trying to figure it out for myself what's going on. So that's why I want to research and look into these different avenues and see if there's, there's anything there, if there's any connection. So I think a lot of everything is interconnected in ways that we don't understand. So just because we don't understand it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. For example, the, a lot of people that don't have experiences, it's hard for them to understand because they haven't seen it. So it's very similar to like the Plato's Cave allegory. So, you know, as somebody who experiences, you have left the cave and you've seen it for what it is. But everybody else is still in the cave. So you try to explain to them, you know, what you've seen and experienced. And they have no reference point. They have no way to know that what you're saying is true or real. So they dismiss it and they, they, you know, act like you're crazy. So, but like I said, it's interconnected in a way we, we don't understand. You know, it's a very complex, you know, question or situation. So the way that I would describe it is you imagine a thousand piece puzzle, right? And every little bit of data or information that you get is one little piece on the puzzle. So you put the puzzle together, right? But it's not that. It's actually 10 of those puzzles all mixed up into one box. So now you have to figure out, all right, well, this piece goes to this separate puzzle and this piece goes to puzzle three, and this piece goes to puzzle five, whatever. So. But it's even more complicated than that. Now you have like 10 of those thousand piece puzzles, right? And you realize after you've put all those pieces together that it creates a mosaic. There's a picture within that you don't see until you zoom out to a specific point, right? So, but it's even more complicated than that. But you have to do that, you know, five more times for a total of, of six mosaics, right? And you notice that the edges of each one of those mosaics look like they line up with each other. And then you put them together and it creates a cube. And then you zoom out even further and you realize that it's just one pixel in a singular puzzle piece. That's how complicated this issue is. So that's where I'm at with that. So, you know, I looked into Gnosticism and, you know, with that and I had, you know, my experiences with, you know, meditating at night. And I wanted to see the demiurge. So, you know, while I was laying in bed at night, you know, I meditated on that. I wanted to look the demiurge in the eye. And when I did, while I was laying there, I. Similar to how I had seen the seed of life geometry in that, you know, it was dark, but you could still see the, the lines in the darkness. I had seen an eye, but the eye had a vertical slit and a horizontal slit to make a plus sign in the eye. It had, it had like a scaly part of the top part of the eye lid and then the, the bottom part also scaly and the, instead of the eye blinking The. The whole head seemed to rotate, like it was trying to look around. And when I seen that, it kind of freaked me out, and I backed away, and that was that. So also, my. My wife had taken a video of an orb in the sky, you know, and in the video, you can see that the. There's a star there, how the orb is moving in relation to the star, to kind of give you an idea of how it's moving. So around that time, you know, in 2024, I started having instances of waking up with songs in my head. So I think that that was the one of these entities trying to communicate with me by telling me or giving me these. These songs to listen to, to try to understand. So while I was meditating, because I had started down this path where I was trying to. To learn and figure out what's going on, you know, I started. I was meditating at night, and I was kind of reaching out, trying to contact these beings. And there's a few times that I actually got responses. So the first time was a male voice who yelled at me. He was clearly annoyed. He told me to shut up and who gave these humans these abilities. So there was another instance maybe a month later after that point, where I also heard a male voice. It didn't sound like it was the same voice, but he yelled at me again and told me to shut the f up. And then there was another instance many months after that, where I had asked the question, what am I? You know, and just kind of broadcast it out while I was meditating, and I heard another male voice tell me that you are human. So, I mean, throughout, I've had lots of dreams that feel real. They don't. They don't feel like it's just a dream. It feels like a memory to me. So if I think about them, I can see them in pretty clear detail. So I've had, like, one in particular was a childhood dream where I was in my backyard of the home that we lived at when I was young. I was in the backyard with my brother playing, and we were messing around with sticks, like, hitting leaves and weeds and things like that. Had seen, like, a shimmer in the tree line above the fence. So I took the stick like it was a gun and put it, like, in my armpit and then raised the stick up. And when I did, I was immediately dropped to the ground. You know, my head was sideways on the ground, and I remember seeing a. A line of light that opened up into a triangle. So it's kind of like if there was A door there. And the top of the triangle would be a hinge, and then the bottom would open, like, sideways to create a triangle. And then there was two beings, one on each side, on the. One on the left, one on the right. And they were, like, really dark, almost black in comparison to the doorway. The doorway itself was this bright white light. And then that was the end of the dream, and I woke up. So toward the end of 2024 is when this. This entity, Stella, introduces herself. And before that, my wife was getting a little. It was like somebody was talking to her information here or there. So she would tell me she would know when I'd get home. And with my job, I have different times of the day that I get home. I don't get home at the same time every day. So I don't know how she knew other than that I was home. So she would start coming out and saying, somebody told me to come out, and you were here. So she would come out to greet me. So it happened multiple times, you know, for. For months. But toward the end of 2024, that the. The thing that was telling her when I was getting home had introduced herself as. As Stella. So. So after, you know, Stella introduces herself, I mean, it's. It's kind of weird. Like, I looked into, you know, channelers, and there's different people that, you know, claim that they're. They're channeling these entities, you know, And I'm thinking maybe, maybe she is, but I'm not sure. So I start questioning things. I start asking questions. And Stella doesn't like to give information, so it seems like she wants me to kind of figure things out for myself, like it's some kind of game or challenge. I mean, it's kind of annoying sometimes, but it kind of is what it is. So, like I said, I was asking questions about Stella, trying to figure out what was going on, but, you know, she says that she's the. The mantis entity that has been watching over me, you know, not just on this. This timeline, but other versions of me, too. So I wasn't sure if, you know, my wife was just pulling my leg, messing with me, or if this. This thing was real, which is part of the reason why I kept asking questions, trying to figure things out. But some of the evidence, it was like, well, you know, she knows how I'm here every day, so how would she know that? And I'm like, well, maybe, you know, there's like a tracking thing in my location on my phone, or, you know, just trying to figure it out. So, you know, close to my birthday, you know, two days after my birthday, my wife comes out to greet me, right? Says. Stella says that you're home. So that's why I came out. So she came out. She gave me a hug. While she was giving me a hug, you know, I was. She says, stella says to look up. So we look up, and when we both. We both look up, we're like, well, what is that? Well, it was. I think it was a uap. So it was a light. It looked similar to the video of the. The Turkish ufo. So it had, like this kind of. Like a crescent kind of top to it or like a dome and then like a smaller one underneath. So the light, it would get bright, and then it would dim out, and it moved slowly from the left to the right. So there was two distinct sections of it that were made of light. So there's the top section and the bottom section. They would get bright, and then they would dull out and get bright, and they dull out, and they move from left to right. And then while I was standing there, you know, I told my wife to go get my phone so that I could. I could take a picture of it, because I wanted to take the picture, but I didn't want to leave because, you know, this is pretty amazing. I've never seen any, you know, other than what I had seen early on, which it was a long time ago. So this thing's moving from left to right. And in my mind, I asked it. I said, hey, can you. Could you get bright for me? Like, really bright? And it did. It got extremely bright, and then it dimmed down to where it blacked out completely. And then it turned back up again, got really bright again, and then dimmed back out again, and then it was. It was gone. It disappeared. So I. I was kind of as. I was astonished, and I still am, like, you know, and so part of the reason, you know, I was like, well, I don't know what this is. I wanted proof that this thing is real. So I think Stella sent it here to prove that it's real. Just like the photo. You don't accidentally take a photo of these things if they don't want to be seen. I think it intentionally let her take the photo so that I had proof that it was there. Whether other people believe me or not, that's irrelevant. It was for me, so that I could confirm that it was there. So. And then two days after I had seen the craft, I got home from work. I'm at the car. I'M getting my stuff, getting ready to go inside, and I stop, you know, because I'm still kind of like, you know, in awe of what I had seen two days before, you know, and I'm looking in that same direction that the. The craft came from two days prior. I was out there for maybe five, ten minutes, you know, looking in that direction, and then finally it showed up again. It was there again. It moved in the same direction. It dimmed and got bright the same way that it did before. And then it went a little bit further than it did the first time, and then it. It. The lights went out and it disappeared. So that was the second time. So it was kind of a confirmation that. That I had seen something. So not only was it on that first day that I'd seen it, then two days later, I seen it again. Say, hey, listen, I'm here. It wasn't just a fluke. Is like. Like, I know what planes look like. I mean, the. The plane light, it blinks. It's like a strobe. This is totally different. What I seen. What I seen looked like if you had a dimmer switch, like a dial on the light, and you turn it up and you turn it down at a slow rate of speed. That's what I saw. Which is totally different than the strobe of an airplane. So, like I said, I've been trying to get information from Stella, trying to figure out what's going on. And part of me doesn't want to believe that any of this is real. So I've been pushing back the whole time, trying to come up with prosaic explanations and what's going on. So, you know, sleep paralysis. Yeah, people. People have sleep paralysis. You know, so there's that, and then there's hypnopompic and hypnogogic hallucinations. You know, I'm like, well, maybe the symbol that I seen was just, you know, something like that. So I think that that's part of the reason why, you know, this. This entity. Stella keeps upping the ante and doing things as if to say, all right, well, you didn't believe the first thing, so we're going to do this now. And then you didn't believe the lat. That thing. So we're going to move on to another one, and we're just going to keep doing that until you finally understand that we are real, we're here. Even now. I mean, even though I've been presented with the photograph and then seeing the. The craft, I still want to push back and say, man, I'll. You know, I don't want to think that these things are real. I mean, whether they're real or not, I mean, it's in my mind. I just. I don't want to believe that they're real. So like I said, I've been. I've been trying to communicate with Stella through my wife and try to get information as to, like, what's going on. It's really hard going. I mean, she doesn't want to give me the information. But, you know, throughout the, the time that we've been communicating, you know, she claims to be something like, think the. The term is anamkara, which is like a. A soul friend that. And she says she deeply cares about me and that she's been following me through different incarnations. So the incarnate. It's not like I don't think it's one after the other. I think they're, they're multiple realities, like a multiverse where there's different versions of yourself. You know, when people say that these entities are extra dimensional, I don't think they really understand what that means. I mean, it's hard for anybody to understand what that means. But what I think is like, this reality that we're in is something similar to a simulation. Now, whether that's a computer simulation or something like an organic simulation, you know, it is questionable. Like, I don't. I don't know what's creating it. You know, you could say source. Source consciousness could be the thing that's creating it. But what, what is source consciousness? Is it just something that came from the quantum field? I mean, it just coalesced and it is what it is. Or was it made by something else and then we're, we're inside that? I don't know. I don't. But those are questions that I'm asking, trying to figure out what is going on. But because of my near death experience, I know that there's at least that. And what I had seen was the darkness and the light, which to me is binary. It's zeros and ones again. I mean, simulation theory. So there's that I think, you know, ultimately, you know, source consciousness is doing what we're experiencing. So it's making everything similar to a dream. You know, that goes to another question. When you dream at night, who's creating the dream? If you're creating the dream at night, right then you're creating a simulation. So all the things that you create within that dream are a simulation. And that's what I mean by an organic simulation. So when you dream you're creating that reality, how big or expansive that reality is, irrelevant, honestly is, you're still making that, that reality. And if it, and if that's not the case, then you're looking at something that is somewhere else. Then you're still within the framework of a source consciousness. Like I saying, I don't know what that source consciousness is. Is it what we call God? It could be, I mean, or it could be a hyper advanced super AI intelligence, you know, that's trying to figure out a, a question or a problem. And it's using all of us like virtual machines, you know, having experiences, trying to figure it out. I mean, it's like I said, this subject is one of the biggest questions that anybody could answer. And I am woefully unqualified to figure it out. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to try. Like I said, I was trying to get information from, from Stella. She says that for the most part my core personality is the same across the different timelines. She says I'm, I'm negative, I'm stubborn and I'm defiant. She says that I am an old soul that has been soul traveling a long time and that she is not the first in in the position she is. There was one, at least one before, but she doesn't know how many were there were before that one. She said that she had asked for the position. She says that my core personality is the same no matter the situation or circumstance that they put me in. And she says that I had broken the rules before and that I had been outside of the system. She also said that I'm unpredictable and that my mind is complex and scary. And this isn't like one conversation. So the, the information that I gained was over months of poking and prodding and trying to elicit a response to get some kind of information on what's going on. And I. I've pieced this narrative in based on that. Yeah.
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You mean? I continued to meditate at night, you know, and just kind of relax and see what happens. And then one night I, I heard another voice. It was the, the first woman's voice I'd ever heard while meditating. And she, she says hello, and that her name was Inanna. And I didn't know who that was, but there you go. I heard it. And then shortly after that, she had a very beautiful voice to her, very alluring. And then shortly after that, I heard a man's voice, what I assume is a male voice, was very deep, like the, the actor Michael Clark Duncan. And it also had like a guttural base to it, similar to like an, an alligator's bellows. It said, hello, I am. And then I pushed back. It freaked me out. I didn't want anything to do with it and backed off of it. At a later date, I had asked Stella, I'm like, you know, why would that, that happen? Because, you know, I looked into the name Inanna, which led me to, you know, Sumerian text, like the Mesopotamian religion, Sumerian, you know, and all that stuff. And, you know, now I understand some of what that is. But I, I asked her, I'm like, well, why would, you know, somebody as influential as Inanna, or what I presume to be Anki, introduce themselves to an average person? It doesn't make sense. And Stella told me they wouldn't. You know, I, I told her that I'm just an average person. I mean, I, I don't have any political office. I don't have power. I'm not rich. I'm just a normal person there, I'm not important. And she told me I was wrong, that I am, but I don't understand how or why. And I don't, I don't, I don't know why these beings have targeted me for doing the things that they do, but they do. So over the course of these experiences, my wife is having dreams with, with us being on, on the ship. So there's a, there's a ship that these entities are on. And Stella So the Mantis lady is the person in charge. So there's tall gray there that I've affectionately called Grumps. So Grump is a very grumpy, you know, kind of like he's in charge of the lower guys. So the smaller Grays on the ship and they're. Whenever they do something wrong, like, he's visibly annoyed. So. But one of the. The first interactions was that we were on the ship and my wife wakes up and she starts moving around. So she has a high pain tolerance. She has a much higher pain tolerance than me. She's had dreams where they were trying to give her the. Whatever to sedate her and keep her down. And they talking amongst themselves and saying that they can't give her anymore because it would affect her negatively. So they. They wouldn't give her anymore. So she starts to wake up and then eventually moves around the ship and sees other people in the area that we were at that are on. On tables in that room. That was one of her dreams. And then another one where she's up and she's moving around and Stella's there and allows her to move around. And the grumpy Gray, he doesn't like it and opposes it and asks Stella why she allows it. And she replied, you wouldn't understand because she's in charge. He's not gonna question it at that point and just let her do what she wants. My wife is moving around the ship, notices that there's a container, and on that container has like a biohazard symbol, you know, and she. She doesn't touch it, but she's close to it. And the. The grumpy gray realizes that she's close to it and immediately rushes over to pull her away from it and asks her if she did touch it. And she replies, no, I didn't. At that point. That's kind of when that. That ends. So that's. That's another dream that she had. Any case, she reports that there's Stella on the ship and she's the Mantis Lady. The tall gray is there. He's kind of in charge of the small guys. The small guys are tasked with going around and doing, like, whatever mundane tasks. But she also states that there's these smaller creatures there that she. She calls Wookiees. So they're maybe, you know, three foot tall, look similar to the Wookiee from Star wars, but they don't talk and they don't telepathically speak to her. But I believe that they have telepathic abilities. When she's up there. You know, she treats them kind of like pets, you know, hangs out with them and then feeds them treats and plays with them. That's in direct opposition to Grumps. He doesn't like the idea of it, but is allowed to. There's other instances that she reports that while she's up there, she's seen other entities. There was an instance where another mantis entity, not Stella, was also on the ship, walking past the room while she was there with one of the Wookiees, and seemed confused that she was holding the animal. So he went in there, he pulled the animal from her hands and then put it on the ground. And she went back to pick it back up again. And he put it back down on the ground, and she picked it back up again. And at that point, one of the small grays walked by. He asked one of the small grays, what is this? Is this normal? And the small gray said, yeah, it is. And the. The mantis asked, well, who allows it? And the short gray said, she does. At which point he went about his business and he walked out of the room. So that was a separate dream. And then there was another dream where I was woken up. So I don't remember being woken up. There were several instances where I was woken up in different dreams. I don't remember it. But this is what was reported to me. The first time that I was woken up, she had convinced one of the small wookies to wake me up. So I don't know, they have some kind of psionic ability that allows them to do that or some ability to do that. So it woke me up while I was on the table. As soon as I woke up, and I looked at her and I said, hon. She said, the room was flooded with grays and what I assume was Stella. So they all ran into the room, and then the dream had ended. Then there was another instance with another dream where she had convinced an older Wookiee. So she. She was asking them to do it to. To wake me up. And the. The room she was in, a room full of them. You know, from what my understanding is, is that there's. There's cages of these. These Wookies on the ship. So I assume that it's something like a breeding facility or these animals. But in any case, so there was a group of them, and there was this older one with, like, disheveled hair. Like, you know, it looked older than the rest of them and was a little heavyset. She said she. He walked toward her to accept what she had asked to be done. She picked him up or tried to pick him up, and he was heavier than the other ones, you know, stop trying to pick him up. And then held his hand and then walked him over to me. So after she did that, he did something, put his hand on me or something, but it woke me up. So she said, as soon as I woke up, I sat up and then bolted out of the room and started running around. So at which case, the small gray had come into the room and said, where is he? And, oh, no. And then she said that the small gray had went back out, and then the tall gray Grumps came in and was asking where I was, and then commenced to say, well, I'm going to have to get contact Stella. So I don't know how they communicate, you know, wherever they are doing what they are, but he contacts Stella and Stella's in a meeting with her higher ups. So apparently there's a hierarchy of these beings, even the Mantis, beings that. Who are supposed to be at the top, that there's another whoever in charge of her. So in any case, you know, she comes down there and then, they assume, recapture me. So. And then in the third instance where I was waking up, there was like a young Wookiee. So I assume because it was young, it didn't know any better, and she convinced it to wake me up. So when she did, apparently I had made my way to one of the jump ships that they have and stole it. So Grumps was informed, Grumps goes and contacts Stella. Stella again is in another meeting, stops what she's doing to come and find me. My wife says that they put out a notice to other factions, that the ship that was out was rogue and it wasn't in control by them. So they recaptured me because the ship had stalled out and then brought me back. So Stella said that that wasn't the first time that I've taken one of their ships and that I've taken one of their transport vehicles before. So when they. When she was talking with Grumps before they went out to go get me, she asked how many, and Grumps said one. So then he knew that it was just me out there and not all of us. It's pretty wild. Like. Like I said, I don't want to believe it. I mean, that there's this. This scenario is going on, but this is what's reported to me. I don't have those. Those dreams and those experiences. I have very vivid dreams about other things that go on, whether I'M having these experiences and then thinking that I'm having a dream about something else, like a screen memory that could be possible, but I'm not sure. So Stella says since. Since those incidents, whenever I go on the ship, they put warning signs up now to let them know that I'm there, that be on extra caution. So after that event, you know, I was joking around with my wife and I told her so I was like, so what was I like, something like Bugs Bunny and, you know, just joking around. And she said that Stella said, no, that I was more like Wiley Coyote instead because of my core personality. Like I said earlier, there. There are other factions out there. So whatever faction Stella is like, I assume that factions would work similar to how we have different nations and then we have like a united nations or like there's a governmental system between them where they're not all the same. You know, my wife had instances where she would have dreams where we would be abducted by and gray entities that aren't part of Stella's faction. So. And it primarily happens after I do a deep meditation. The first time, it was reported that we were taken into the backyard and we were being brought through a portal. And before we went through the portal, we were standing in the backyard, and the. One of the gray entities had grabbed onto her wrist to bring her through the portal. And then there was like a light that had came from her arm. That entity then let go of her arm and then went to another one of the entities that was there, one of the Grays and said, put them back. And he said, what do you mean? Why would we put them back? He said, because she's going to be angry. He said, well, what are you talking about? So he told the other gray to go back and check. So the other gray went back and then held onto her, her wrist, her arm, and then proceeded to bring us back. That was the first instance. We also had an instance where the, like, there was orbs in the house. So. But they weren't Stella's faction. They were a different faction that had been checking things out because I had been meditating. And they fell focus their attention on my youngest son. So while my wife was in the bathroom, she was getting communications to go check on my son. So she quickly went up and went to go check. And when she did, he was sleeping on his bed. But there was a blue orb that was floating above him. And as soon as she had seen the blue orb, it quickly moved and left. And as soon as it moved, there was a shadow entity that Moved with it on the other side. So there was also an instance where my youngest son had disappeared. So we were in. I was at work. My wife was at the house with the boy. He was sleeping on the couch. She did some. Some errands and some laundry, and she came back to check on him, and he wasn't on the couch. So she checked around the area. She checked the floors. She checked around, you know, all around that area, and then immediately went to go check the doors. All the doors were still locked. There's no way he could have got out. So she's freaking out because, you know, she thinks that he's missing. While she's looking for him, she hears him crying. So he was in the same spot that he was originally on the couch. Whoever it was that took him immediately brought him back. Right after they took him. You know, maybe they realized, like, who he was connected to or what. But, you know, it was. It was quick. So they brought him back. So I think, you know, there's these factions, and they don't step on each other's toes. So if they have a project or, you know, something that's going on, they don't. And they realize that somebody else or something else is working on that or they're, you know, protecting them. They won't mess with them. They'll back off, you know. And then there was another instance where I had been meditating, and my wife reported that there was a dream that she had where everything was black and she was being asked questions. Now, there was a woman and a man. So the man was asking her questions about things. The man asked, where do you think you are? And she said, on the ship. And she asked, well, where are the Wookiees? He said, what Wookiees? He said, the Wookies that are on the ship. So the guy, he said that we don't have those. I don't even know what you're talking about. So the woman then came into the conversation, and the guy asked the woman, what are Wookiees? Have you ever heard of these? And she said, yeah, I've heard of them, but I've only ever heard of one other faction that has those. At which point her dream abruptly ended. So I think there was another instance where they figured out that we were tied to something else or someone else and immediately brought us back. There was another dream where she was on the ship, and she was. After that, she was on the ship and she was playing with the. The Wookies again. And she said that there was another tall gray that she hadn't seen before who came in. And Stella was there as well. And the. The tall gray had one of those wookies with them and gave it back to Stella and said, take it back. It's broken. And she said, well, what do you mean? She said, well, it. Like, it wants constant attention and it wants treats, so what's wrong with it? So Stella replied that it came from the medium batch and that it had had close contact with humans. At which point the. The tall gray looks surprised. And then that was the end of that dream. So I think. I think that these. These Wookiee animals that they have, because they have some kind of psionic ability, I think that instead of being used as pets, you know, I think they're being used more like tools of some sort, like a work animal rather than a pet. Like, if it was a pet, you know, you'd want to give it affection, you want to give it attention, I mean, because that's why you have it. But it appeared as though these entities use these animals more like a work animal rather than a pet. So she had another dream and another point where she had seen one of the reptilians on the ship. Again, when she had seen the reptilian, it looked confused and had asked one of the. The gray is there if that was normal. He said, yeah, and asked, who allows it? And they said, she does. At which point he went about his business and kept moving. And that was the end of that dream. My wife also had a dream where she was moving around in the ship, just kind of exploring. And she came on a room that had tubes in them that looked like. Like babies in the tube, like human babies in the tube. And Grumps was there because he was tasked with following her around the ship to make sure that she wasn't going to get into trouble. So that's why there's always a gray there with her as she's moving around the ship, just to make sure that, you know, nothing bad happens, especially after instances, you know, throughout. So in any case, she asked about the babies and wants to know if any of those is hers. He points to one of them and tells her, that girl is yours. At which point she says, I want to take it. I want to take it home. And Grumps tells her that she can't. And if she did that, the baby wouldn't survive on Earth. There's no way that she can. For a period of time after she had that dream, she was randomly hearing a baby cry in. In real life, you know, while she's conscious and awake at home. I didn't hear it, but, you know, she did, and she was pretty distraught by hearing it. And that went on for at least a couple weeks. She reported that she had a dream where she had succeeded on actually getting the baby out of the tube and got the baby out of the tube and had one of the wookies with it and used the wookiee to wake me up and that we were all in a ship trying to escape. But we were eventually apprehended. So I think one of Stella's main goals is to change my core personality type. She wants me to be more positive and to see the beauty in the chaos and stop being the negative, defiant, stubborn person that I continue to be. Now, I don't know why. I don't. I'm not sure if it's altruistic and they're doing it just because, you know, they're trying to be nice or because there's some ulterior motive associated with that. So if these interdimensional beings are. Are tasked with, you know, timeline manipulation or overseeing timelines, if they could change a constant, something that is constant, somebody who's constantly negative or has negative, you know, personality types, such as myself, into a more positive being, it may look like it's a mark of achievement or a. Like a thesis or magnum opus or whatever you want to call it. So I don't know, maybe that has something to do with it and they see it as like a mark of achievement. At one point, I told Stella that I was willing to do what she asked me to do and try to shift into this more positive version of myself. But I told her I wanted something in return. So I told her I wanted all of my memories back. So all of the things that I've done, I want to be able to remember that if they've taken them from me and that's why I don't remember, then I want them back. And then on top of that, I also want my sovereignty. I don't want to be just some, you know, lab experiment. 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So off of the. The dream subject. Not too long ago, one of my. My family friends had. Had passed away and well, he was. He's more like an acquaintance. He's a guy that I work with and his, his father had passed away and that night Stella told me that he was with his son driving in the Corvette and to tell his wife and she gave me her name that everything was going to be okay. So I went back and I asked my co worker to confirm if the. His mom's name was in fact that. And it was. And I asked him if his father had. His father's son or his brother had had a Corvette. And he said yeah. So he confirmed both points that the. What the name of the wife was and he confirmed that his. That the other one had the Corvette. So for me that was a confirmation that they have a link to the spiritual world on the other side. So like I was saying earlier with, you know, this being a simulation, you know, that may be another world that's attached to this one kind of like, I don't know, like a storage or just the next step in what we're doing, like if this is a spiritual evolution thing, like maybe that's like the holding area until you go back in to try again or. Or what. So I. I don't know. So there's that on top of that, you know, my. My mother recently passed away as well. Now my mom, when I had the experiences where I felt presences, I told my mom about it and she told me that she believed me because she could see things that other people say aren't there. So. And she's not the only one. My nephew has reported the same thing where he has seen people that weren't supposed to be there. So for example, my nephew was at a. At his house and he was in his room just relaxing. And he said there was this old woman that walked past his doorway and being astonished because he's the only one who's supposed to be in the house. You know, he doesn't know what's going on. And then as the woman walks past, this little dog passes with her. He's freaked out by it. He goes, he leaves. And he looks out the doorway and she's not. She's gone. She's nowhere to be found. He looks around the house, nowhere to be found. So he goes, he leaves, he comes back, he talks to the downstairs neighbor and explains what he had seen. And the downstairs neighbor had said that that was the description of the woman who had died in his house previously, and that was the description of the dog that she had had. And there's no way that he could have seen them because she had died years previously. So that's an instance where, you know, both my mother and my. My nephew have seen something that they or a person who has already passed that shouldn't be there. So, so like I was saying recently, my, My mother passed away. So two weeks before my mother passing away, my wife goes to pick up the. The cake for my son because his birthday was around that time. So she goes to pick up the cake and she's waiting at the bakery. There's a woman standing there with her. And then she tells the guy what she wants. He goes back to go get it. She said that there was another woman who came up who gave her a hug and then told her to tell Jay that I said hi and that everything is going to be okay. And then she. She gives her a hug and then walks away. My wife turns back to go deal with the cake situation and then realizes that she didn't get the name of the person. So there's no way to relay the information. She turns back. When she turns back, the woman's gone. So she looks at the baker who just comes out and says, did you see which way the woman went? So he says, what woman? And then points to the lady who's standing next to my wife. She says, no, it's not that woman. The other woman that was just here said there was no other woman. And then the lady who's standing next to her, she asked her if she had seen which way the woman went. And the woman that was standing next to her also said that there was no woman there. So at the time, I didn't understand what was going on. When my wife relayed the information to me that a woman had come up to her and did that, I didn't think anything of it. I said, okay, well maybe it's just somebody saying hi and you know, and I don't know, maybe it's because of, you know, my friends father who passed away. You know, maybe it has something to do with that. So I didn't think nothing of it. And then two weeks later, my mom passes away. And I didn't think anything about it until my brother brought it up. He's like, well, didn't you tell me that she had an incident where she was at? And then she Got approached by somebody, and I say, yeah, but I, you know, I didn't put two and two together until he said something about it. There's that. And then, you know, I was talking with my sister about it. And she's also had an experience where she was at the hospital. She had a premature baby. Before she had the baby, the doctors checked her out and told her that she was good to go home. So they left. And she said that a woman came into the hospital room and then told her that she wasn't going anywhere and that she wasn't okay and that the baby wasn't okay and she needed to stay there, that the woman left the room. Then the nurses came back in. When the nurses came in to, you know, help her leave, she told them that the lady who came in told her that she's not okay. So they weren't sure who she was talking about. So the doctors, they come back in and they're looking her over, and they decide to keep her there. Well, they looked at the security camera footage, and no woman went into that room, but it showed in the camera. From what my sister says is that the. The door opened as if somebody had pushed the door open and then somebody had come through. You know, I just find it similar to the instance where, you know, my wife is getting the cake and then, you know, a woman comes up and then tells her everything's going to be okay. So also, the. The day that my mother passed away, on my way home, I had a terrible headache all day. But on my way home, I noticed that there was a lot of birds flying toward my vehicle. And it was really odd. It was enough for me to say, hey, what's going on here? So later on, when I got home, I started talking to my wife about it, and she said, stella says that the birds were messengers, and messengers of what, I don't know. So as the night goes on, I get a message from my aunt later that night that my mother had passed away. It was a difficult moment. A few weeks later, my. My wife has taken my youngest son to a social event at the fire hall. When they. They got there, they were. They were going around looking at stuff, doing stuff, and she was standing there talking to somebody, and she thought she saw the backside of my mother standing there, but she wasn't quite sure. So she kept talking to the other people that were there. But my son afterward, because he was in the. In the stroller, my son afterward told her or that he had seen my mom. Now he used my mom's name you know, what we call her, but he hasn't met her. I mean, my mom, she'd been sick for a long time and she had been in Kingston for like 12 years and had never met the boy. And we don't really talk about her like that at the house, so he couldn't have overheard the name. But in any case, he said that he had seen a portal open up. At this point, he's 4 years old, so he said he had seen a portal open up and the biggest big eyes that he had ever seen come out of the portal with a heavy set or a, he said, a fat woman. And that she said what her name was and that she wanted to meet him because she loves him. She had never been able to before. You know, I think that was an instance where, there, where Stella is trying to make me happy and had my mom's spirit come through and see the boy. So I think that there's a connection with the other side and these entities. You know, since then there's been other instances where like, like I wasn't sure, like with the, the arrangements if my mom was going to be okay with the arrangements. And I, you know, I was kind of stressing about it and Stella said that everything was okay. That mom. Mom liked everything that I was doing. She. She thought I was crazy for doing it, you know, but. And because she didn't want to have all of it done, it was it because of the, the effort involved in doing what I did, but I did it. So she, and she was happy with it and that she would never, she could never be mad at me for that. There was that instance. And you know, I believe that my mom is still kind of hanging out and she doesn't want to move on. And I believe my mom is just as, as stubborn as I am. So she's not gonna move on without knowing that her kids are gonna be okay. So occasionally, you know, Stella will say something like, you know, your. She'll be like, your mom wanted to let you know that, you know, she finds it interesting that you still have this knickknack that we. She gave me like however many years ago. Or like, you know, the other night they were talking, she was talking about the cooking and she made like a specific dish that was like. But it was a store bought one instead of a homemade one. So Stella was relaying the, the recipe that my mom had to my wife through Stella. So, you know, like I said, I think that wherever we go after we're done here, they have access to it. I'm not sure that they primarily live there. Or maybe it's just a go through between where it's just a way through, but they have access to it for sure. And that makes sense. If these entities are extra dimensional, they have the ability to do things that we wouldn't be able to. So the way that I'm looking at it is similar to like a video game. Okay? So you have your characters in game. So if you look at the people as if their characters in game, right. Our time flows, right? So but to these entities, they're outside of the game in some respects, and then they have access to the game through like avatars. So when they say that the body is just a vessel, for example, like Bob Lazar was talking about it now the entities were saying that the body is just a vessel, then it's similar to a video game where you have a character in the video game and then you can control the character in the video game. The technology that they have is so advanced that it appears as though it's magic to us. Like we. We just can't believe that they can do what they can do. But if you look at it through the eyes of a video game or a simulation, then everything makes sense. It's just these entities have admin status. They can do things like God mode or fast travel or, you know, whatever. At least that's the way that I see it currently with my current understanding. If I get new data, then, you know, that may update how I see the world. But as it is now, it seems as though that this is a sort of simulation and that, like I said, I'm not sure it's a computer. I mean, it may be biological in nature. Consciousness itself may be a fractal. It might be like a Mandelbrot set where consciousness begets consciousness begets consciousness. Like a mirror in front of another mirror. It's like, how far does it go? I don't know. But that's why I stated earlier that this is one of the most complex questions that anybody can ask. The nature of reality itself.
[113:25]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Thank you for sharing all that, Jay.
[113:27]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Yep. I think that was the. The end. And I'm sorry. I mean, it's. It's taken so long to go through it all. I just. I know that there was a lot of information.
[113:37]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
That's okay. You did just great. How'd you feel?
[113:40]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
You know, now that I've said everything out, part of the reason why I didn't want to do the interview is because I didn't want to give what's happening, Credence? You mean, like, once I say it out loud, it gives it, you know, more life, more realism. Because, you know, part of me just doesn't want to accept that any of this is real. I don't want to accept that. And that's why I keep pushing it back. I keep. I keep having pushback, you know, and I. And questioning things and like, some of this stuff, if this stuff is real, then this changes everything. Not all of it doesn't even have to be real. There's just a few things in here that have to be real. And it's reality shifting and it's a huge ask.
[114:27]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Do you believe that your childhood sightings are connected with your later experiences?
[114:32]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Oh, yeah. Yeah. My. I didn't tell you before, but my. My brother, he's had experiences too, so. Around the same time that we seen the blue light, he reported seeing later on, after I talked to him about it, he reported seeing the three beings with a. With a. Like a tannish color skin, with the large eyes that. That came into the room because we used to sleep in my mom's room. So, I mean, it's all connected. They've been watching me for a long time. I mean, and it's not just that now. They're. They're watching the whole family. Like I was telling you before I got the. There's grays that are posted up in my house. They're kind of like guardians or sentinels, you know, because we've had these other entities that come in and snatch us up. Those other ones that are here kind of watch over things. So, you know, they don't have names. We gave them nicknames, and they don't have to take those nicknames. So but they. They kind of do, like, when they want. So we. Graymond is the name that I gave the one who likes to mess with the electronics. Graymond is the one who messes with electronics. So he does like the computer stuff. And I'm pretty sure he's the one who posted the. The second picture of the gray entity that was. That's in my attic. It would. It doesn't stay there. It's just. It was there and they took a picture. One of them took a picture probably with one of our phones and uploaded it onto my social media. Yeah, I didn't do that. I was in the shower when that got posted. Right? And then my wife was busy doing stuff in the living room, so she didn't do it. I asked her, are you doing it? So, you know, the only Other option here is that my wife is some kind of super secret spy agent level of competence and is running some unimaginable campaign to get me to believe whatever it is that she's telling me or these things exist. And I find it really hard to believe that she has the aptitude to pull off something like that. So. Well, like I said, we got the Grays that are posted up here, so we got Graymond, right? So he's like the tech guy. And then Big Eyes is kind of the, the one who watches over my youngest son. And then we have what I call the Tweedles. So Tweedledum and Tweedledee because they like to mess with things, they think they're helping, but they're not. So like they, they mess with my coffee pot and cause it to overflow or they, they take like, they mess with our, our animals and then get all our, our reptiles all riled up and start like banging against cages and things like that. So, I mean, we have the Tweedles. And then there's a new one that, that showed up that's friends with Big Eyes called Terry. I didn't know about this one until my youngest son notified me that Big Eyes has a new friend named Terry. He's scared of humans, so he kind of like backs off. I asked which one it was in the photo, and Stella confirmed that it wasn't any of the normal ones. So I'm assuming that that was Terry who got the photo taken of. I'm not sure. So, but, but yeah, it, There's a lot, man. There's a lot going on. You know, I just, I don't want to believe that it's real, but I can't say that it's not because all of the experiences that I've had, you know, you can, you can explain away certain things, right? Like you can say, you know, it's just sleep paralysis or hypnopompic hallucinations or. I mean, it's, you know, when you, when you, when I wake up, I see symbols sometimes. So I mean, they say that that's phosphenes, so. But I think they're, they're just trying to make excuses for the thing because they don't understand the thing. So. And I think science and religion are both trying to solve the same question, but they don't understand that they're, they're looking. They're like if you have two blind people trying to describe what they're seeing, right, or what they're experiencing, and one person who's blind grabs a hold of the elephant's leg and tells you it's a tree. And the other person grabs a hold of the trunk, right, and tells you that it's a snake because they're, they're using the senses that they have. They don't have the ability to see that it's an elephant, so they're using their other senses to tell them what it is. So the one is wrong because he says it's a tree. Obviously it's not. The other one's wrong because it, it's not a snake. Right, but neither one of them understand that. They're, they're trying to describe the same thing and they're describing aspects of the same thing, but on different sides. So at least that's how I see it.
[119:22]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Yeah, that is true. Are you religious?
[119:25]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
I was baptized Roman Catholic, but I've, I've never practiced. I, you know, I'll go to a church during events, you know, when I'm asked to. You know, half of my kids are baptized, the other half haven't. I've also been married in a church, so. But not, not overly religious. No, but that, that's part of the reason why I'm, I'm trying to understand what all this is. I mean, and I'm looking. I mean, because it's up to everybody. It's your own personal choice, right, to look into these things. Use your constructive criticisms or your, your, your, your own judgment discernment to try and figure out what's going on. So, I mean, which one's the true faith? I mean, I don't know. I don't know which one's the true faith, but I mean, you have multiple options. It's like this person says this, this person says that, so on and so forth down the line, you know, I mean, and part of the reason why everybody is fighting is because of these belief systems that they don't even know that they're, they're true or not. They're just, they're basing it off of what other people are saying, specifically with religion. You know, they're basing it off of texts that happened way back when. They may have artifacts from back then, but the witness accounts of the people who've witnessed the miracles ain't around no more, so you can't really tell. So it's just this long drawn out, like, what the hell? I don't, I don't know. So. But at this point, from my own personal experiences, there's something going on. There is an, there is an afterlife, There is something outside of our reality. Whether it's, you know, God through the Christian faith or the Jewish faith, or the Monad through Gnostic faith, or everything is Shiva. Like the, the Shabaism says that, you know, everything is just Shiva playing it, playing a divine game. You know, it's. It's up to every person to figure it out for themselves. At this point, like I said, I'm pretty sure there's something outside of this system. And I'm pretty sure that when I died, I seen it. I seen and I didn't know. So when I looked into Kashmir Shabaism, they describe the egg of creation in the void. So they just, they described the exact thing that I seen. But I didn't read that until like three years ago. And when I had my near death, it was over 22 years ago. So there's no way for me to have known that information. So from my personal perspective, I mean, that makes sense to me. Like Kashmir Shivaism makes sense to me that we are all of the one. We're all of the one, the source, right? Everything is Shiva and we're just all having divine play. We got bored and we created a world to play in it. So it's no different than a dream. Everything is just whether, you know, when you say simulation, it's no different than a dream. When you're dreaming, it's the simulation, it's the same thing. Like I said earlier, if you're dreaming it, are you making it or is something else making it? Either way, it's being made. So I'm on the fence. So the way I'm looking at it personally right now, I see that we are in a. In a Gnostic reality nestled within a Chevaic reality. So we created this Gnostic reality as the. The game, and then the, the breakout through the Archons and the Demi Urge as like the bosses of the game. And then once we beat that, we go back to the Monad and you realize that the Monad and the Source creation for Shiva are the same thing. They're just two different ways to go about it. The Monad is just. It is what it is, and it does what it does on its own without knowing that it's doing it. It's just creating to create. Whereas, you know, in Shivaism it's like yeshiva. You created all of this and then eventually you put all the Legos back in the box. So when they see Shiva, they see him as the destroyer. Oh no, he's going to destroy everything. And he's taking apart the Legos, putting Them back in the box so that we can create again. It's a cycle. It goes on forever. That's where I'm at with religion right now. I can't prove it. Most people can't prove their religions to be real or not. But like I said, it's up to each individual person because each individual person is their own consciousness moving through the maze. We're all trying to find our way
[124:04]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
through the maze in all different places at all different speeds, right?
[124:08]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
In Gnosticism, that's the process of gnosis, of knowing. So once you know it, you know that's the only way out, is to know it. And know that the Demiurge and the Archons, that this world that we're in, that they've constructed, this three dimensional world, is theirs. Right? But we are not of it. We're of the Monad. So we have to find our way out, right? So once you. Because if you fight it, if you fight the Demiurge, that's what he wants. He wants you to fight. He wants the loosh. He feeds on that. He feeds on the negativity. He feeds on the. The constant fighting. That's what he wants. But if you realize that he doesn't matter and that none of. None of what he does matters and that you aren't of it and you can find your way out. So. But I think that's part of the game is to find our way out of the system. And like I had said earlier, you know, Stella had told me that I had found my way outside the system before. I broke the rules before. And she told me that whoever is in charge of this simulation, this place, has put safeguards into it because of things that I've done. So I think that that's why they're. They're following me. Not because of, you know, me being some important thing that's going to change things or it's because I've done things that they don't like that I've done. So she's more like a interdimensional parole officer. That's how I look at it, you know, keeping me out of trouble, making sure I'm not going to open the doors that I'm not supposed to.
[125:43]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
This is just like that film, what was it? Jim Carrey film. The one where he's in, like a TV show.
[125:48]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Oh, the Truman Show.
[125:50]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
That's it. Truman show, where he finally opens up that door to the studio.
[125:53]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Yeah, but we're all like that. It's everybody's like that. It's everybody is creating their own reality for themselves. So it's. Everybody's figuring their own way out, as far as I know. I mean, that's my working hypothesis is that we're all trying to find our way out. Now what's really going on? I don't know. Like I said, it could be that it's just a, like an AI program that's using us as virtual machines to train the AI program. I mean, it's no different than, you know, what, what the AI modelers are doing now. They do the same thing. Like they, they run the virtual simulation before they have the real world robot with the, the AI in it to do the said task. So they do it a certain amount of times before it learns how to do it. But it's all virtually before it does it physically. So it could be doing the same thing. So because it doesn't make sense, it's like how many times do you have to experience being born? How many billion. There's billions of people in the world. You think that you wouldn't have to know after the first billion times. So. But the same could be said for any other action. So really, what is it after? It would be after whatever novel experiences that you have. Anything new, it would be after that. And the only way that you can get to the new is by new combinations. You combine things that you weren't normally combining before to get to said thing.
[127:09]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
So pretty deep, Jay. Certainly loads to unpack.
[127:13]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Like I said, that's where my mind is. I'm not the smartest person in the world. I mean, I, I didn't even go to college. I just caught up in real world stuff, you know, and I'm just, I'm an average guy trying to understand what's going on. But I'm not sure, I'm not sure that those Wookies, man, or whatever. Like I've heard one other person talking about them. It was one of the military guys, older fellow, kind of stout and fat. I can't remember his name, but he's only ever mentioned it once that they're, they're there. But I, I can't help but think that, you know, instead of being the, the Wookiees, man, maybe there's a connection between them and the Bigfoot is if, if they're doing genetic manipulation, right? And they're, they're doing whatever they're doing. I mean, they could also have the DNA for these, these other beings, these, the Sasquatch, and then do whatever to make the things that they have. So I mean, they could be their product. I mean, humanity could be their product. I mean, if you look at the. The stories of the Anunnaki, you know, and the Watchers coming down and doing what they're doing. I mean, like I said, I looked into the Sumerian thing too, but it was only after that I heard that name in my mind, which led me down that path. I didn't hear it before that. So, I mean, there may be something to this Sumerian mythology. And, you know, maybe they're describing something outside of the system that we're in now. I mean, it may not be that it was here physically. I mean, it could be somewhere else. I don't think it's what we think it is. So what mainstream people think it is, I think they're. They're content with letting us think that it's that as a form of misdirection.
[129:00]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Easier to absorb, isn't it? It's a really complex subject. People have so many experiences and different experiences, subjective experiences. It's like a big onion, you know.
[129:12]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
The way that it all fits is that it's all consciousness. Consciousness is fundamental. Everything starts as a thought. So, you know, even, you know, lifting your hand up. I mean, there's electrical signals that come from the brain, but where does the brain get the thought to do that, to send the signal, right? So it's all about consciousness. So ultimately, if we are all part of Source, right? And we're all. We are of Source, and we have some limited ability that Source has. Like, if we're just fractals of it, we may be just a diminished version of it, you know, trying to evolve and become. Because like I was saying earlier, like, we could be the way, like consciousness, right? Could be procreating. It could be like. Was it mitosis or cellular division, where it divides itself? So it's just. It's dividing itself right into these. These different vessels. And then those different vessels, or the. The end. The consciousness in those vessels goes through this journey of growth to get to the point to where it can be what the original was, and then it continues on and does it again. So who knows how many Source consciousnesses there are. That's why I said if it's like a mirror in front of another mirror, I mean, it could be infinite for all we know. It could be finite, but it could be infinite. How many consciousness they may have all come from one. There may be a ultimate source, Source consciousness, but that doesn't mean that whatever is creating this reality is the Source Consciousness.
[130:43]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
You must wreck your head Sometimes.
[130:45]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Oh yeah, you know, I get bored raking dirt. Great stuff, Jay.
[130:48]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Okay, Jay, I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.
[130:52]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Yep. Thank you for having me.
[130:53]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
You're more than welcome. It's great to meet you. Okay, take care of yourself and we will speak soon.
[130:58]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
All right, bye.
[130:59]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Thank you. Bye for now. Well, that is all for this episode. Keep updated and connected with the show on X, Facebook and Instagram. And if you have an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast, you can email me@ufocroniclesmail.com or you can reach out to me via the contact page on my website ufocronicles podcast.com a big thank you to Jay for sharing tonight and thank you all for listening. I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe and keep watching. Watching the skies. Goodbye.
[131:57]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
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UFO Chronicles Podcast – Ep. 397: The Hudson Valley Encounters

Host: Nik Hunter
Guest: Jay (firsthand witness, New York State)
Date: August 2, 2026

Episode Overview

In this episode, Jay from Troy, New York, takes listeners through a lifetime of strange, reality-shifting encounters in the Hudson Valley—ranging from childhood UFO sightings and abduction-like dreams, to profound near-death experiences, encounters with shadowy entities, recurring paranormal phenomena in the family, and ongoing telepathic communication with a mantis-type being called Stella. Jay’s story delves not only into the events themselves but also explores deep questions regarding the nature of consciousness, reality, and the possibility of our universe functioning as something like a simulation or spiritual learning ground.

Key Discussion Points & Experiences

Early Years: Childhood Encounters

First UFO Sighting (age 6) (06:18–08:14)
- Location: Troy, NY, near Oakwood Cemetery.
- Observed a cylindrical, copper-brown craft with colored lights over the forest behind his home.
- Night terrors, migraines, and unexplained fear at the same time in his childhood.
Family Blue Light Event (age 13) (08:14–10:50)
- At home in Lansingburg, entire house bathed in an intense blue light.
- Mother thought it was morning due to brightness; police were called due to the UFO's presence.
- Jay’s brother reported the craft visible for hours; authorities baffled.

Major Turning Points: Out-of-Body and Paranormal

Near Death Experience (age 18) (10:50–13:30)
- Lost consciousness, saw infinite golden light, then total darkness (“the beginning of everything… binary… zeros and ones… foundation of reality.”
- “There’s the black, which is the off, and the all light, which is the on. So you have binary, so zeros and ones that may be the foundation of reality itself that I observed.” (13:15, Jay)
Strange Voices and Vibration Sensations (ages 21–22) (13:30–17:30)
- Heard two voices in an unknown language through his pillow.
- Felt invisible presences and unexplained energy/frequency shifts in empty apartments.
- Describes the feeling as “like a black TV screen, with an energy sound… almost like a 19,000 Hz tone… it’s tied to their vibration.” (16:50, Jay)

Abductions, Symbols, and Dream Phenomena

Existential Crisis and Symbolic Dream/Abduction (2022) (17:30–29:55)
- Suffering from “meat machine” anxieties and panic attacks.
- Prays for relief. That night, experiences a detailed dream scene possibly masking an abduction; repeatedly asked “Why are we here?” to humanoid figures.
- Awoke with sleep paralysis and an illuminated Triskelion-like symbol flashing in his left eye, three distinct icons: an evergreen tree, a lion, and three tori forming a triangle; symbol pulses with heartbeat.
  - “I think what they showed me was an evolution of consciousness… a tree, a lion, then these three tori… what does it mean?” (23:27, Jay)
- In a later vision, encounters a ring of light with flames of shadow, confirming the third symbol.
Light Beings and Geometric Imagery (29:55–31:45)
- Sees a being of golden light in a mudra pose.
- Views “seed of life” geometry in his visions; prompted research into esoteric traditions (Kashmir Shaivism), Hemi-Sync, and potential remote viewing.

Family Experiences & Recurring Entities

Paranormal Events Extend to Family (36:37–48:00)
- Youngest son (age 1) has night terrors, points upward at unseen things.
- Spots grey, two-dimensional shadow entity—describes its anatomical details; later vanishes.
- Older son sees a triangular-headed entity; wife and daughter see “doppelgangers” of family members who disappear.
- Wife takes a photo during a “check” on Jay at night; captures what resembles the mantis entity seen in Dr. Steven Greer's CE-5 contacts (43:15–47:10).

The Mantis Entity “Stella”

Telepathic Contact & The Role of ‘Stella’ (48:15–61:00)
- Jay’s wife starts to “hear” information about events she couldn’t otherwise know, eventually receives direct mental contact from a “mantis” being called Stella.
- Jay’s evidence-driven skepticism persists, but signs (timed UFO sightings, photos) challenge him.
- Stella claims to oversee Jay across timelines and incarnations (“She claims to be something like an Anam Cara—a soul friend… that she’s followed me through incarnations.…” (61:18, Jay))

Deepening Contact, Abduction Factions, and Family Involvement

Interaction Dynamics Between Factions & Dream “Missions” (61:00–83:00)
- Wife dreams of ongoing contact with Stella’s “crew”: mantis leader, “Grumps” the tall gray, small grays, and small “Wookiee”-like creatures (possibly linked to Bigfoot).
- Reports multiple “abduction” events, ship explorations, seeing hybrid babies, and run-ins with other ET factions (“they don’t step on each other's toes…like U.N. for ETs”).
Notable Dream Incidents (Various 64:00+)
- Wife wakes up on crafts; Stella allows and supervises “free roaming.”
- “Wookiee” creatures used by the ETs, possibly as work animals with psionic abilities.
- Craft escape attempts by Jay—leading to warnings and reinforcements in ET “security.” (“They put warning signs up now to let them know that I’m there, be on extra caution.” (79:45, Jay))
- Parallel “dream-lives” involving unfamiliar but advanced technology—hint at multiverse/parallel timelines.

Crossing with the Afterlife and Ancestry

Spirit Visitations and Validation (99:58–109:00)
- Experiences after deaths—message for a friend confirmed by details only Stella could know.
- “I think that there’s a connection with the other side and these entities…” (104:30, Jay)
- Wife encounters unknown woman in a bakery delivering reassuring message before Jay’s mother passes away.
- Family sees apparitions (e.g., nephew sees deceased former resident and her dog).
- Son sees a “portal” and meets Jay’s late mother, who introduces herself by name he’d never been told.

Reflections on Reality, Consciousness, and Philosophy

Simulation Theory, Gnosticism, Shaivism (109:00–124:00)

Jay’s narrative is colored by threads from various traditions:
- Compares reality to a simulation or an elaborately constructed multi-puzzle mosaic.
- Investigates Gnosticism (Monads, Archons, Demiurge) and Kashmir Shaivism (“We’re all of the one—the source. Everything is Shiva and we’re just all having divine play.” (121:43, Jay))
- “When I died, I seen it… the egg of creation in the void, exactly as described in Shaivism.” (122:43, Jay)
Consciousness as Fundamental
- “It’s all consciousness. Consciousness is fundamental. Everything starts as a thought.” (129:11, Jay)
- Proposes that the journey may be about individuation, evolution, and returning to Source consciousness.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the nature of his experiences:

“Part of the reason why I didn't want to do the interview is because I didn't want to give what's happening, credence. You mean, like, once I say it out loud, it gives it, you know, more life, more realism.”
(113:40, Jay)
On reality:

“It’s like a thousand piece puzzle in a box, but really, it’s ten thousand piece puzzles—and then you zoom out and it’s a mosaic, and so on… That’s how complicated this issue is.”
(60:40, Jay)
On skepticism:

“Even now… I want to push back and say, man, I don’t want to think these things are real. So [Stella] keeps upping the ante… going, ‘You didn’t believe the first thing? We’ll do this now, and keep going until you get it.’”
(60:15, Jay)
On consciousness:

“If we are all part of Source, right? We are of Source, and we have some limited ability that Source has. Like, if we’re just fractals of it, we may be just a diminished version of it, trying to evolve and become.”
(129:11, Jay)
On personal importance:

“I told [Stella] I’m not important. She told me I was wrong, that I am, but I don’t understand how or why.”
(99:00, Jay)

Timestamps for Major Segments

| MM:SS | Segment | |---------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 06:18 | Jay’s first childhood UFO sighting | | 08:14 | The blue light and the family sighting/interaction with police | | 10:50 | Near death experience and philosophical implications | | 13:30 | Voices, invisible presences, and unexplained “energy fields” | | 17:30 | “Abduction”-like dream and vision of symbols, existential crisis | | 23:27 | Jay’s analysis: evolution of consciousness via symbols | | 36:37 | Family’s paranormal experiences, shadow gray entity, doppelgangers | | 43:15 | Wife’s photo of the “mantis” entity | | 48:15 | Telepathic communications with Stella | | 61:18 | Stella claims to be an “Anam Cara,” a soul friend tracking Jay through incarnations | | 64:00+ | Abduction dreams: shipboard life, “Wookies,” ET hierarchy, and escape attempts | | 79:45 | ET factional dynamics and “warnings” issued about Jay | | 99:58 | Spirit visitations: Jay’s mother, unexplained messenger at bakery, nephew’s sighting | | 104:30 | Jay on the connection between ETs and the afterlife | | 109:00 | Reality as simulation; Gnosticism and Shaivism | | 113:40 | Jay on the impact of speaking out, reality-shifting implications | | 114:26 | Jay links childhood sightings with family’s recent experiences | | 119:24 | Jay on religion and searching for meaning in his experiences | | 121:43 | Shaivism’s view on creation and connection to Jay’s near-death vision | | 129:11 | Final reflections: consciousness, fractal creation, and evolutionary hypothesis |

Closing Thoughts

Jay’s account is a rare, detailed tapestry of lifelong, multi-generational contact phenomena, blending classic UFO/abduction elements with esoteric spiritual exploration and philosophical depth. The episode stands out for Jay’s self-interrogation and skepticism, his transparent sharing of doubts, and for raising profound questions about consciousness, control, and the universe’s purpose.

A must-listen for those interested in:

The interconnectedness of UFO/paranormal phenomena and spiritual traditions.
The emotional and philosophical impact of lifelong contact.
Firsthand accounts incorporating family, generational, and “multi-reality” elements.

For further listening, or to share your own encounter: visit ufochroniclespodcast.com.

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[03:02]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
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[03:06]
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[03:13]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
We want to report one of those either. Ares 31, do you wish to file a report of any kind of it? I wouldn't know what kind of report to file, sir. Ares 31, me neither. There are seven one Papa Golf, go ahead. And was there anybody. That stunt above us that passed us like 30 seconds ago. Seven one top of golf.
[03:34]
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Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
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Yeah, something just passed over like a. Don't know what it was, but it's at least 2,3000ft above us. So yeah, I passed right over the top of it. 911. You guys busy? We just called off the vehicle as we thought. They're out there. Same airplanes. Bob, I swear to God. Four calls in on an unidentified object over liberty.
[04:08]
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[04:09]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Four calls on an unidentified flying object. All right, we'll check it out.
[04:17]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
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[04:49]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Hello everyone.
[04:50]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Great to have you here tonight. I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight our guest is Jay and he joins us from New York State to share experiences throughout his life, beginning with a cylindrical craft above the trees during childhood and a blue light that flooded his family's home years later. His account includes a near death encounter with a vast golden light, unexplained voices, geometric symbols, and more recently, his wife claims to be communicating telepathically with a mantis like entity known as Stella. Jay is up next. But first, if you enjoy the show and you would like to help support the podcast on Patreon, you can do this for as little as $1 a month. Head on over to patreon, patreon.com forward/ufo chronicles podcast. You can also find a link in the description of this episode. Any help is very much appreciated. Now, on with the show. Hello, Jay. Welcome to the podcast.
[06:04]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Hi. It's nice to be here.
[06:05]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
It's great to have you here. And you're coming to us from New York State?
[06:09]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
That's correct.
[06:10]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Great stuff. Okay, now, Jay, you have several experiences you're going to be sharing with us tonight. Would you like to start at the beginning, please, sir?
[06:18]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Yeah, sure. All right. So I've lived most of my life in Troy, New York. I've had a lot of strange experiences, paranormal experiences, just stuff I don't know how to explain. But, you know, my. My first sighting was maybe around 6 years old. I remember looking out of my window or my mom's window in the second floor of the building that we lived at, seeing our backyard. And right behind our backyard there's a hillside that goes down to a creek and the hill goes back again on the other side. So it's all forested area. It's right up against Oakwood Cemetery. And I remember seeing a cylindrical craft that is kind of copperish brown. And along the midsection of it was different colored lights. So there was yellow and blue, red. So, you know, that was my first experience. And seeing something like that, being that young, I didn't know what it was. I just, you know, write it off, whatever, and move on. So. But as time went on, you know, my mom told me that I. I had been having night terrors when I was a kid, so I would wake up in the middle of the night screaming with no apparent reason as to why I was doing that. Also, with a history of migraines around that time, so nothing else really happened until around the age of 13. Around that time, I was living with my family in Lansingburg. And directly across from our house, there was a craft that lifted off of or from behind a commercial building that was across the street from our house. So from what my experience was, what I had seen was I remember being on the staircase and the house being completely bathed in a blue light. So my mother was downstairs looking out the bay window, you know, and my father was. Was there as well. And they were asking, you know, well, what was that? You know, talking to each other, because they weren't sure what it was either, you know, where the blue light was. My mom, you know, before that, you know, on accounts of my brother telling me, because I don't I don't remember it, but my brother told me that mom had woken up because she thought it was morning time, that that's how bright the light was. So she went down to go make the coffee, and that's when she looked at the clock and realized that, I mean, it's not morning time, nowhere near. So she. That's when they started to question what was going on. But from my perspective, I only got to see the light, you know, sitting on the stairs, and then said that, you know, I don't. I don't want to deal with this, and then went back to sleep. So I went back to my bed to go to sleep. But from my. What my brother tells me is that they continued to watch the. The craft rise from. From behind that building across the street into the sky until, like, the daylight hours came. So it had been a long time. He said that at some point that the cops had arrived and the police officers arrived and they talk to my mom about what was going on, and they. They weren't sure what it was either that was in the sky. So the next one would probably be, you know, around the age of 18, I had a near death experience. I don't want to get into the specifics of how that happened, but I. I remember losing consciousness. So. And then after I lost consciousness, the next thing I remember seeing was a really bright golden light as far as I can see in any direction. I couldn't see my hands, I couldn't see the nose on my face. I couldn't see anything but that gold light. You know, I was confused because I remembered what had happened before I was there, and I didn't understand how I got there or what was going on, you know, so I was very confused. So. And as I was thinking about those things in my head, the corners of my vision started to get black. So it was like a pitch black on the corners. And then that the black on the corners continued to get larger in my field of view until I realized that what I was looking at was a giant golden circle. So. And as I continue to look at it, you know, confused, trying to figure out what's going on, the circle seems to be getting smaller and smaller as time goes on, and then it disappears and I'm just there in nothing. It was complete darkness, black. And I was there in the black for, you know, maybe 10, 15 seconds before I was able to open my eyes. And I was aware and conscious the whole time. I was having that experience all the way up past the time that I opened my Eyes, you know, so that's part of the reason why I still remember it, which is, you know, kind of weird. You know, I thought about it a little bit as I've gotten older, you know, and I think that what I seen may have been the beginning. You know, it could have been the beginning of everything. There's the black, which is the off, and the all light, which is the on. So you have binary, so zeros and ones that may be the foundation of reality itself that I observed. I'm not sure, but that was my experience with that. So. When I was 22, I had an incident where I was alone in my house and I had work in the morning. It was a late night. I decided to go to sleep. When I laid my head down on the pillow, I heard two voices talking with each other in a language that I'd never heard before. There was. I kind of can recognize certain languages, like, you know, French or German or Russian or Mandarin or this language. I just. I couldn't put my finger on it. So, I mean, it caught me by surprise. I lifted my head back up off the pillow and listened. And I didn't hear it. There was. There was nothing there. So I put my head back down on the pillow and I heard it again. Took my head off the pillow. I didn't hear it. So I just moved my pillow to the other side of the bed and laid down, and I didn't hear it anymore. So I went about my business, went back to sleep, and went about going to work the next morning. So around the age of 21, I had an incident where I felt like there was a. A presence in the apartment building that I was at. This is well after my nde. So the feelings I get, it's kind of weird. It's like if you leave a television on and it's black screen, there's no sound or, you know, image on it. It's just black screen. There's this, I don't know, energy sound. I don't know how to describe it. Just a feeling that comes with that. I've also. There's a similar feeling when I listen to, like, a 19,000 hertz on a speaker. So I get that same kind of feeling. But in any case, I think that may have something to do with these entities, you know, and they're. Whatever energy or vibration that they have whenever they're around, it gives off that frequency. There's also a Doppler effect with that. So, you know, if they were to walk in front of something, that energy kind of Gets muffled down and I can, there's like a shift there. But in any case, I, I had this experience where, you know, I was in the building, nobody else was there, and I felt it moving around and I called it out and I, you know, I let it know. I said, hey, you know, I know you're there. I know you're there walking around. I don't know what you're doing or why you're there, but I know you're there. And as soon as I said it, man, this thing, it got in my face. It felt like it was nose to nose with me. The energy was off the charts, you know, and it, it made me feel uncomfortable just how close it was to me to the point where I had to leave. I left the building and did some other things and then eventually came back and I didn't feel it again. So. Which is nice because, you know, I'd have to move if I just kept feeling that feeling is it was that uncomfortable. Right. So the next experience I would have had was probably in 2022 where I was, I was having an existential crisis where I felt as though that we were just meat machines, just computers, you know, and that when we cease to exist, we cease to exist. And it was, it was really bothering me. I was having panic attacks, you know, high anxiety for a couple days. So on the second day, you know, I was getting ready to go to sleep and lay down and I was having a whole lot of problems with it. A lot of anxiety. For one of the few times in my life I prayed in my head and I said, God, please take this pain away from me. You know, maybe there's certain things that I shouldn't know or maybe, you know, I shouldn't look into this. But that night after I did that, I went to sleep. While I was sleeping, I had a, a dream that was, it was a very vivid dream that may be an abduction. I'm not sure. I mean it could be a screen memory placed on. So. But in any case, the, the dream goes that I was, I was standing behind a white sprinter like van that the doors open up sideways. To the left of me was a man with, you know, he looked like a blue collar man. He had short hair, like short, short beard hair, had like a blue button up T shirt with jean pants. We were on the road on the, the wrong side of the road if you're in America. Next to that was the, the curb and then the grass and then the sidewalk and then there was a small hill with grass on it. That had concrete stairs that led up to like a colonial style house with like a wrought iron handrails. So, you know, it's a pretty detailed dream that I'm having. And you know, I, I turn to my left, I look at the guy and I ask, why are we here? I had to really push to get the why are we here? Out. And it had like a reverb to it when I said it. And he turned his head. Not his body, just his head. He turned his head and looked at me with a blank expression on his face. And in that moment the scene changed. We were no longer behind the van. Now we were in something I would describe as a, like a high school laboratory. So there was these big windows with the long slat blinds that, that go sideways, you pull the string and the slat turns. So and then there was a black linoleum style countertop with pine cabinetry underneath of that. And right in front of that was a kind of like an island with the same black linoleum countertop and pine cabinetry underneath. That was maybe seven feet long, like four foot wide. So the guy that I had seen in the previous part of the dream was a step back from me, maybe one person length, because I remember looking to my left, looking back and seeing the guy there. So but he, again, he had this blank expression on his face. Directly in front of me, maybe about 10ft, was a man with long hair that came down to his shoulder. It was very curly, kind of like a poodle. And it was a salt and pepper, so it was both gray and dark color. He had a white button up T shirt with khaki pants, you know, Caucasian looking man, not sure, but it was a light skin. And again I'm standing here and I look at him and again I ask, why are we here? So again it's the same reverb and it's the same force. You know, I had to really work at it to say, why are we here? And the moment I said that, he, he kind of tilted his head, looked surprised, then looked annoyed, and then rushed toward me with an amazing speed. I don't know how to describe it. That 10ft was nothing for this person. So his right hand came up from his side and then came close to my left eye or my temple. So as soon as that happened, I woke up in my bed. I had sleep paralysis. I couldn't move. You know, I wasn't numb. I could feel my wife's arm or my, my wife's head on my arm. And there was this symbol Made of light in my left eye. So the symbol looked kind of similar to Triskelion with the way that it was set up. We had three lines coming out from a centralized point with like, I don't know, 30, maybe 33° turns on it to create a triangle overall shape. And on each one of those lines, there was three symbols on each part of the line where it would, it would bend. So the flat part would be one symbol, and then it would bend and then another symbol, and then it would bend and then there's another symbol. So on each line it's the. The same three symbols. So the first symbol was something that I figured out to be a evergreen tree. The second symbol is what I believe to be a lion. And then the third symbol was the hardest for me to figure out that was. It looked like a torus, but there was three of them that made a triangular shape. So over time, you know, trying to figure out what this thing is, you know, I looked at it from different angles like it was spirituality, you know, in the Christian faith and, and some other things, trying to figure out what's going on. But ultimately, I, I think they, they answered my question when I asked, why are we here? So I think what they showed me was a evolution of consciousness. So we start off as something as simple as a plant or a tree, and then, you know, graduate to something more complex like an animal, such as a lion, and then something even more complex as the. Those three Taurus, you know. But I had no reference point to that until I had another experience later, which I'll get into. But the, the symbol made of light. Every time my heart beat, the. The light would flash. It would be like this bright bluish white color, and then it would fade to a goldish yellow. And then my heart would beat and it would flash to that light blue white, and then fade back to the goldish yellow. Like it was linked to my heartbeat somehow. Also, in my right eye, there was a similar thing going on. There wasn't the same symbol, but there was a line on the bottom part of my eye that looked kind of like a straw with the adjustable neck. So it went straight and then it got crooked and bent down. So every time my heart would beat, it would also flash the same color as the symbol. So obviously I'm freaked out. I mean, I'm laying in bed, I'm screaming in my mind, help me. Because, you know, I'm just. I'm really freaking. This is the only. The first time I've ever had that happen to me. Where I can't move and I had something in my face. But over time, the brightness of the symbol started to fade. And then I was able to get up. So while I couldn't move, I wanted to try to study it. You know, even though I was freaking out, you know, there wasn't much else I could do other than study the image and try to remember what it looked like, which is really hard when, you know, you're under that kind of stress. So as soon as I was able to got up, I went to the bathroom immediately, looked into my eye, you know, to see what was going on. And then I went to my computer and started sketching it out because I, I didn't want to forget, you know, what I had seen. I, I still can't forget what I've seen. You know, I, when I think about it, I see the image in my mind. There was that. And then weeks later, I had another experience where I woke up and it was 4 o' clock in the morning because I, I remember looking at the clock after the experience. So floating above my feet, maybe two feet, was a ring made of light, like an LED ring light, something very similar to that. But the inside there was flames made of shadow. So the part that touched the ring of light was the darkest part on each flame and the tip was the, the lightest. So it was almost like a grayish white, almost like smoke toward the tips. So the flames weren't connected, they were separated, similar to like a flag would be separated. So they're their own distinct triangular shapes and a odd number. So maybe nine to 11, I'm not sure exactly what, but I remember there being an odd number. I call them flames because they moved like a flame does. So they waved like a flame would. And they also bifurcated. So the tips on the, each one of those flames, at some point they would bifurcate and then you'd have two tips on the flame and then the flame would come back together. And the closest reference I have to something doing that would be a flame. So I didn't feel threatened by it. And because of the previous experience that I had, you know, before, I was still kind of in shock from what I had happened with that, you know, and I just, I didn't want to deal with it. So I said, I'm not dealing with this. And I turned, looked at the clock and said, I'm going back to sleep. So, you know, that, that was that. But I think that that ring of light may be the third symbol that I seen or the the, sir. The third symbol that I had seen in the symbol. So the, the third item, I don't know what you want to call it, but you know, the three Taurus that were at the end is that. That was one of those. So I think that they had sent that here so that I had a reference point to understand what that is. I know what a tree looks like, you know, I know what an evergreen tree looks like. I know what a lion looks like, but I don't know, you know, what reference I would have to those Taurus in the, in the shape of a triangle. The three Taurus. It just didn't make sense to me. So I think that maybe, you know, that was part of it. So another thing with the, the symbol, when I had that experience was the next day when I woke up, my left eye hurt really bad. Like I had been punched in my eye. You know, I didn't have any bruising, but it definitely hurt. When I went to my job, you know, my, my brother and my nephew, they work with me, and they noticed that I was off. You know, I wasn't being the funny person that I used to be, the energetic person I used to be. And, you know, they noticed that I was just. There was something wrong, so they asked me about it and I. I jokingly told them that I. I think I got. I think I got punched in the eye by an angel last night, you know, and they laughed it off. And I, I explained my experience to them as well. So they didn't know what to make of it and thought it was kind of weird. But, you know, we went about our day. So a few days after I seen the ring of light in my bed, when I woke up, I was laying in my bed getting ready to go to sleep. I hadn't quite got there yet, but with my eyes closed, laying in the bed, there was a bright light, like a singular point of light that looked like it rushed toward me and then it seemed like it was a person. So my eyes were closed. And I know I'm not dreaming. I'm laying in my bed, but there's this being made of light. So it was a silhouette kind of thing. Like, there wasn't any details of, like a nose or eye or mouth or anything like that. It was just. It was this golden light being in front of me. The torso view, I could see the arms, I could see the chest and, you know, the stomach area and the head, and it was holding its hands in what I found out later was in a mudra position. So the Left hand was pointed up, like at the shoulder level, pointing toward the right shoulder, and the right hand was at the waist pointing up. So because this thing came at me with the speed that it did, it startled me. And I immediately opened my eyes and pulled back away from it. And it wasn't in the room with me, but it was more like it was. It was in my mind like an image that I was seeing similar to. Like a memory. Like if you were to remember something, you see it in your. In your head. So something similar to that. But like I said, I was just laying in the bed, and this singular point of light became this light being who made that Mudra. Again, it caught me off guard. So, and then a few days after that, again, I'm laying in bed, and while I'm laying in bed with my eyes closed, I see a geometric shape. And I. I'm not sure what the geometric shape was at that time, but after, you know, looking into it and trying to figure out what it was, I. I found that it was the. The seed of life. So it was kind of like, I don't know. So there's two different ways that I see things. So with memories, it's kind of like two screens. So if you have two screens and one is overlaid onto the other one, so you know what I'm seeing in real life in real time. Right? So that would be your primary screen. And then like the memory bit would be like an overlaid, opaque version of the other, whatever is going on. So your memory. So this is totally different. So what I'm talking about is like your eyelids being closed and then seeing an image on the back side of your eyelid. So it made of, like, I don't know, like, light, but it's a very faint, shadowy light. So it's hard to tell the difference between the darkness of the. Behind the eyelid and it. But there is, like a slight shade difference between the two. But what I had seen was the seed of life. So at that point, that's when I started to look into what all these symbols could be meaning. Like I said, I look, you know, tried to figure out what the Mudra meant, you know, what the Mudra was to begin with. I didn't even know what a Mudra was at that point. So, you know, I looked into that and I looked into the seed of life and it. And the. The ring of light with the flames made of shadow. And that brought me to researching Kashmir Shivaism. So, you know, I was looking into maybe there was some kind of A connection there with Shiva. So you know, as throughout my research at that point, you know, I started to look into the Monroe Institute and then I, I tried the Hemi sync. So you know, I put the video on the YouTube and put the, the headphones on and tried to do the Hemi sync that they have. So and I think I may have done a remote viewing inadvertently while doing that because I wasn't sure it was going to do anything. So I just wanted to try it out and see what happens. So I was laying on my couch, I had the headphones on, I was listening to the beat and it was weird. It wasn't like I fell asleep, but there was this sensation. And then because I had my eyes closed, I seen what looked kind of like cartoon bubbles. You know, like a cartoon where they would have the thought bubble that would come up and then they'd have like the text in there. So something similar to that. So it started off with a couple bubbles and then the bubbles got bigger until it was like one big bubble. And I seen what looked like a woman's hand. I assume it was a woman because there was no hair on her hand and had, she had really nice nails, like kept up nails. But in any case she was sitting at like a pine wood table or a light wood colored table. She had her hand on a stick or a gray colored stick that was in a Stanley cup. So it was a gray colored Stanley cup with like a stainless steel rim around it. The water inside the cup was a gray color and then there was flecks of white and black that were in there. So after thinking about that for a while, you know, I came to the realization that I think she was painting. 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So and then be around 2022, we had our youngest son around 2023. He was about 1 years old and he started having experiences where he would, he would wake up and he'd start screaming and you know, we check on him and when we go to check on him, he was standing up in his crib and he was pointing up. So we weren't really sure what was going on there. But you know, it was just, it was a strange experience that we had noticed. So at the same time in 2023, you know, not exactly the same day, but around, you know, in that year, I had witnessed a, a gray, a gray being or an entity. But it looked different than, you know, what most people would say. So this, so what had happened was I was in the bathroom, using the bathroom. I got out the bathroom, walking down the hallway and there's another hallway to my right hand side that leads to the bedrooms. So I looked to my right as I was walking down the hallway and I looked down the other hallway that goes to the bedrooms and there was a shadow entity on the wall. So it looked as though it was a two dimensional representation of a gray entity or the closest I can say that it looked like would maybe be the, the Bob entity. So but in any case it was maybe 3 foot tall, 3 to 3 to 4 foot tall, had large almond shaped eye, it was a side profile as if it was walking down the hallway going into the bedrooms and it was mid step. So you know, it had a little bump out for the nose. I could see the chin and with a shadow you shouldn't be able to see the definition. You know where, you know where the chin is underneath where the neck is, the, where the chin and the neck meet there. There shouldn't be any definition there, but I definitely saw the line that separates the chin from the neck. So, you know, and the eye on it was dark, almost black compared to the gray color the rest of it was. It had a very skinny neck. It looked kind of frail to begin, you know, to be honest, with this large head. So its shoulders weren't very wide. Had pretty long arms, maybe three fingers that are at least twice the length of a human finger on each one of its hands. It had very skinny legs and the feet looked kind of long, but not as long as the hands. Didn't look like it was wearing clothes. But like I said, it was in mid step. So I think it froze as it was moving. I think it noticed that I noticed it and stopped moving when I did that. So when I seen it, my first reaction was, is, oh, it's just my son wearing the rake costume. Because at that time my older son liked to wear his Halloween costume around the house. So, you know, when I first seen it, that was the first thought that came to my mind is, oh, it's just my boy wearing his costume. So I turned back and then took a few more steps forward and then realized that the son that I just thought was wearing the costume was sitting at the computer and he wasn't wearing the costume. So immediately have I put two and two together and I'm like, that's not my son. So I took the steps back and then looked down the hallway and the thing that I had just seen was gone. It disappeared. So I don't know if it was my brain trying to rationalize what I had just seen or it put that thought in my head so that I would just go about my business and leave it alone. So in that, the Same year in 2023, my older son had an incident where he went to get some snacks off of the stand up fridge or freezer that we have. So when he did that, he climbed up on one of the chairs to get up there to go get it. And he said when he did that, he seen a triangular shaped head poke out around the corner and look at him. And when he seen it, it caught him off guard and he kind of stumbled on the chair and fell down. He didn't hurt himself or anything like that, but he just, he caught himself while he did it. And he says that the entity made an audible woe sound. And you know that that was what he told me about that incident. So the same year, my wife starts having multiple instances of seeing me Home while I'm not home. So I think the first one she has is she went down into the basement to go put something there, and she had seen me standing there in my pajamas. So at that time I was at work. There's no way that I was at home. She obviously wasn't seeing me. She said that whatever it was, wasn't making any kind of movement, as though it didn't even realize that she was there. So that was the first time, but it wasn't the last time that she's experienced me, but not me at my house. There's been a lot more than a handful, probably like 20 to 25 other instances where she's seen me at home even though I'm not there. You know, not just the person, but she's also seen me like, driving my work truck out in front of the house. But obviously I'm not there. So, you know, there's no way that I could be there. There was an instance where my wife and my daughter both seen my oldest son sitting at the computer, but my son was still in school at the time, so there was no way that my. My son could have been home sitting at the computer. So my wife raised that point to my daughter. And then when, when they, when she told her that, she said that they both seen the. The entity or the person who looked like my son sitting at the computer disappear, oofed out of nowhere. So the next instance, it would probably be, you know, it's September, around September of 2024. My wife, she is laying out on the. The couch with my. My younger son. And by that time I'm already in the room, I'm laying down, and, you know, I'm getting ready for. For work, you know, getting ready to go to work for the next day. So I need to go to sleep. So I go to sleep. And while I'm sleeping, she says that she. She got up, she went to go get a drink, and she had a feeling to come and check on me. So. And then because of the strange experiences that we were having, she felt like she should bring the camera too. So she brought the camera with her to the bedroom after she got her drink, and as soon as she entered the doorway, she took three photos in the room. So later on, she woke me up at maybe like 12:30, you know, and she seemed pretty. Pretty excited, you know, concerned. She. She wasn't sure what she had taken a photo of. So the first two photos that she taken were completely black. There was not. There was nothing on them. I mean, so you know, they were kind of useless. But the third photo that she had taken, it showed something in it. So she showed me. I woke up, I wasn't quite sure what was going on because I just woke up and I'm like, okay, you know, whatever, just, you know, I'll look at it later. I'm not sure what you got there. So I, I went back to sleep. So over time, you know, and studying the photo, I realized that the photo, it looks a lot like the, the, the entity in the photo that was taken during the C5 contact with Dr. Stephen Greer. So it has a very triangular shaped head with, it's wearing a, wearing clothes similar to like, you know, loose fitting, long sleeved clothes. The, the hands, or what you would consider hands or fingers look similar where they sweep back. Similar to. In his photo, you know, the one that my wife took also has like a little blue orb in it similar to how, you know, his has a bunch of small blue dots in it. So, you know, I put two and two together and I believe that the photo she had taken was of one of those mantis entities that Greer had taken a photo of or had somebody take a photo of in the, the C5 during the C5 contact. So, you know, after that, you know, I start looking into Gnosticism and you know, if maybe that has something to do with, you know, I wanted to look at all avenues here because I'm trying to gather information on what's going on. I would like to say that this, this is one of the most complex questions that anybody can, can ask, you know, what is the nature of reality itself? You know, and trying to understand who we are, what we are, you know, where we belong in it, you know, and I, I'm not the smartest guy out there, so, you know, I'm trying to figure it out for myself what's going on. So that's why I want to research and look into these different avenues and see if there's, there's anything there, if there's any connection. So I think a lot of everything is interconnected in ways that we don't understand. So just because we don't understand it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. For example, the, a lot of people that don't have experiences, it's hard for them to understand because they haven't seen it. So it's very similar to like the Plato's Cave allegory. So, you know, as somebody who experiences, you have left the cave and you've seen it for what it is. But everybody else is still in the cave. So you try to explain to them, you know, what you've seen and experienced. And they have no reference point. They have no way to know that what you're saying is true or real. So they dismiss it and they, they, you know, act like you're crazy. So, but like I said, it's interconnected in a way we, we don't understand. You know, it's a very complex, you know, question or situation. So the way that I would describe it is you imagine a thousand piece puzzle, right? And every little bit of data or information that you get is one little piece on the puzzle. So you put the puzzle together, right? But it's not that. It's actually 10 of those puzzles all mixed up into one box. So now you have to figure out, all right, well, this piece goes to this separate puzzle and this piece goes to puzzle three, and this piece goes to puzzle five, whatever. So. But it's even more complicated than that. Now you have like 10 of those thousand piece puzzles, right? And you realize after you've put all those pieces together that it creates a mosaic. There's a picture within that you don't see until you zoom out to a specific point, right? So, but it's even more complicated than that. But you have to do that, you know, five more times for a total of, of six mosaics, right? And you notice that the edges of each one of those mosaics look like they line up with each other. And then you put them together and it creates a cube. And then you zoom out even further and you realize that it's just one pixel in a singular puzzle piece. That's how complicated this issue is. So that's where I'm at with that. So, you know, I looked into Gnosticism and, you know, with that and I had, you know, my experiences with, you know, meditating at night. And I wanted to see the demiurge. So, you know, while I was laying in bed at night, you know, I meditated on that. I wanted to look the demiurge in the eye. And when I did, while I was laying there, I. Similar to how I had seen the seed of life geometry in that, you know, it was dark, but you could still see the, the lines in the darkness. I had seen an eye, but the eye had a vertical slit and a horizontal slit to make a plus sign in the eye. It had, it had like a scaly part of the top part of the eye lid and then the, the bottom part also scaly and the, instead of the eye blinking The. The whole head seemed to rotate, like it was trying to look around. And when I seen that, it kind of freaked me out, and I backed away, and that was that. So also, my. My wife had taken a video of an orb in the sky, you know, and in the video, you can see that the. There's a star there, how the orb is moving in relation to the star, to kind of give you an idea of how it's moving. So around that time, you know, in 2024, I started having instances of waking up with songs in my head. So I think that that was the one of these entities trying to communicate with me by telling me or giving me these. These songs to listen to, to try to understand. So while I was meditating, because I had started down this path where I was trying to. To learn and figure out what's going on, you know, I started. I was meditating at night, and I was kind of reaching out, trying to contact these beings. And there's a few times that I actually got responses. So the first time was a male voice who yelled at me. He was clearly annoyed. He told me to shut up and who gave these humans these abilities. So there was another instance maybe a month later after that point, where I also heard a male voice. It didn't sound like it was the same voice, but he yelled at me again and told me to shut the f up. And then there was another instance many months after that, where I had asked the question, what am I? You know, and just kind of broadcast it out while I was meditating, and I heard another male voice tell me that you are human. So, I mean, throughout, I've had lots of dreams that feel real. They don't. They don't feel like it's just a dream. It feels like a memory to me. So if I think about them, I can see them in pretty clear detail. So I've had, like, one in particular was a childhood dream where I was in my backyard of the home that we lived at when I was young. I was in the backyard with my brother playing, and we were messing around with sticks, like, hitting leaves and weeds and things like that. Had seen, like, a shimmer in the tree line above the fence. So I took the stick like it was a gun and put it, like, in my armpit and then raised the stick up. And when I did, I was immediately dropped to the ground. You know, my head was sideways on the ground, and I remember seeing a. A line of light that opened up into a triangle. So it's kind of like if there was A door there. And the top of the triangle would be a hinge, and then the bottom would open, like, sideways to create a triangle. And then there was two beings, one on each side, on the. One on the left, one on the right. And they were, like, really dark, almost black in comparison to the doorway. The doorway itself was this bright white light. And then that was the end of the dream, and I woke up. So toward the end of 2024 is when this. This entity, Stella, introduces herself. And before that, my wife was getting a little. It was like somebody was talking to her information here or there. So she would tell me she would know when I'd get home. And with my job, I have different times of the day that I get home. I don't get home at the same time every day. So I don't know how she knew other than that I was home. So she would start coming out and saying, somebody told me to come out, and you were here. So she would come out to greet me. So it happened multiple times, you know, for. For months. But toward the end of 2024, that the. The thing that was telling her when I was getting home had introduced herself as. As Stella. So. So after, you know, Stella introduces herself, I mean, it's. It's kind of weird. Like, I looked into, you know, channelers, and there's different people that, you know, claim that they're. They're channeling these entities, you know, And I'm thinking maybe, maybe she is, but I'm not sure. So I start questioning things. I start asking questions. And Stella doesn't like to give information, so it seems like she wants me to kind of figure things out for myself, like it's some kind of game or challenge. I mean, it's kind of annoying sometimes, but it kind of is what it is. So, like I said, I was asking questions about Stella, trying to figure out what was going on, but, you know, she says that she's the. The mantis entity that has been watching over me, you know, not just on this. This timeline, but other versions of me, too. So I wasn't sure if, you know, my wife was just pulling my leg, messing with me, or if this. This thing was real, which is part of the reason why I kept asking questions, trying to figure things out. But some of the evidence, it was like, well, you know, she knows how I'm here every day, so how would she know that? And I'm like, well, maybe, you know, there's like a tracking thing in my location on my phone, or, you know, just trying to figure it out. So, you know, close to my birthday, you know, two days after my birthday, my wife comes out to greet me, right? Says. Stella says that you're home. So that's why I came out. So she came out. She gave me a hug. While she was giving me a hug, you know, I was. She says, stella says to look up. So we look up, and when we both. We both look up, we're like, well, what is that? Well, it was. I think it was a uap. So it was a light. It looked similar to the video of the. The Turkish ufo. So it had, like this kind of. Like a crescent kind of top to it or like a dome and then like a smaller one underneath. So the light, it would get bright, and then it would dim out, and it moved slowly from the left to the right. So there was two distinct sections of it that were made of light. So there's the top section and the bottom section. They would get bright, and then they would dull out and get bright, and they dull out, and they move from left to right. And then while I was standing there, you know, I told my wife to go get my phone so that I could. I could take a picture of it, because I wanted to take the picture, but I didn't want to leave because, you know, this is pretty amazing. I've never seen any, you know, other than what I had seen early on, which it was a long time ago. So this thing's moving from left to right. And in my mind, I asked it. I said, hey, can you. Could you get bright for me? Like, really bright? And it did. It got extremely bright, and then it dimmed down to where it blacked out completely. And then it turned back up again, got really bright again, and then dimmed back out again, and then it was. It was gone. It disappeared. So I. I was kind of as. I was astonished, and I still am, like, you know, and so part of the reason, you know, I was like, well, I don't know what this is. I wanted proof that this thing is real. So I think Stella sent it here to prove that it's real. Just like the photo. You don't accidentally take a photo of these things if they don't want to be seen. I think it intentionally let her take the photo so that I had proof that it was there. Whether other people believe me or not, that's irrelevant. It was for me, so that I could confirm that it was there. So. And then two days after I had seen the craft, I got home from work. I'm at the car. I'M getting my stuff, getting ready to go inside, and I stop, you know, because I'm still kind of like, you know, in awe of what I had seen two days before, you know, and I'm looking in that same direction that the. The craft came from two days prior. I was out there for maybe five, ten minutes, you know, looking in that direction, and then finally it showed up again. It was there again. It moved in the same direction. It dimmed and got bright the same way that it did before. And then it went a little bit further than it did the first time, and then it. It. The lights went out and it disappeared. So that was the second time. So it was kind of a confirmation that. That I had seen something. So not only was it on that first day that I'd seen it, then two days later, I seen it again. Say, hey, listen, I'm here. It wasn't just a fluke. Is like. Like, I know what planes look like. I mean, the. The plane light, it blinks. It's like a strobe. This is totally different. What I seen. What I seen looked like if you had a dimmer switch, like a dial on the light, and you turn it up and you turn it down at a slow rate of speed. That's what I saw. Which is totally different than the strobe of an airplane. So, like I said, I've been trying to get information from Stella, trying to figure out what's going on. And part of me doesn't want to believe that any of this is real. So I've been pushing back the whole time, trying to come up with prosaic explanations and what's going on. So, you know, sleep paralysis. Yeah, people. People have sleep paralysis. You know, so there's that, and then there's hypnopompic and hypnogogic hallucinations. You know, I'm like, well, maybe the symbol that I seen was just, you know, something like that. So I think that that's part of the reason why, you know, this. This entity. Stella keeps upping the ante and doing things as if to say, all right, well, you didn't believe the first thing, so we're going to do this now. And then you didn't believe the lat. That thing. So we're going to move on to another one, and we're just going to keep doing that until you finally understand that we are real, we're here. Even now. I mean, even though I've been presented with the photograph and then seeing the. The craft, I still want to push back and say, man, I'll. You know, I don't want to think that these things are real. I mean, whether they're real or not, I mean, it's in my mind. I just. I don't want to believe that they're real. So like I said, I've been. I've been trying to communicate with Stella through my wife and try to get information as to, like, what's going on. It's really hard going. I mean, she doesn't want to give me the information. But, you know, throughout the, the time that we've been communicating, you know, she claims to be something like, think the. The term is anamkara, which is like a. A soul friend that. And she says she deeply cares about me and that she's been following me through different incarnations. So the incarnate. It's not like I don't think it's one after the other. I think they're, they're multiple realities, like a multiverse where there's different versions of yourself. You know, when people say that these entities are extra dimensional, I don't think they really understand what that means. I mean, it's hard for anybody to understand what that means. But what I think is like, this reality that we're in is something similar to a simulation. Now, whether that's a computer simulation or something like an organic simulation, you know, it is questionable. Like, I don't. I don't know what's creating it. You know, you could say source. Source consciousness could be the thing that's creating it. But what, what is source consciousness? Is it just something that came from the quantum field? I mean, it just coalesced and it is what it is. Or was it made by something else and then we're, we're inside that? I don't know. I don't. But those are questions that I'm asking, trying to figure out what is going on. But because of my near death experience, I know that there's at least that. And what I had seen was the darkness and the light, which to me is binary. It's zeros and ones again. I mean, simulation theory. So there's that I think, you know, ultimately, you know, source consciousness is doing what we're experiencing. So it's making everything similar to a dream. You know, that goes to another question. When you dream at night, who's creating the dream? If you're creating the dream at night, right then you're creating a simulation. So all the things that you create within that dream are a simulation. And that's what I mean by an organic simulation. So when you dream you're creating that reality, how big or expansive that reality is, irrelevant, honestly is, you're still making that, that reality. And if it, and if that's not the case, then you're looking at something that is somewhere else. Then you're still within the framework of a source consciousness. Like I saying, I don't know what that source consciousness is. Is it what we call God? It could be, I mean, or it could be a hyper advanced super AI intelligence, you know, that's trying to figure out a, a question or a problem. And it's using all of us like virtual machines, you know, having experiences, trying to figure it out. I mean, it's like I said, this subject is one of the biggest questions that anybody could answer. 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You mean? I continued to meditate at night, you know, and just kind of relax and see what happens. And then one night I, I heard another voice. It was the, the first woman's voice I'd ever heard while meditating. And she, she says hello, and that her name was Inanna. And I didn't know who that was, but there you go. I heard it. And then shortly after that, she had a very beautiful voice to her, very alluring. And then shortly after that, I heard a man's voice, what I assume is a male voice, was very deep, like the, the actor Michael Clark Duncan. And it also had like a guttural base to it, similar to like an, an alligator's bellows. It said, hello, I am. And then I pushed back. It freaked me out. I didn't want anything to do with it and backed off of it. At a later date, I had asked Stella, I'm like, you know, why would that, that happen? Because, you know, I looked into the name Inanna, which led me to, you know, Sumerian text, like the Mesopotamian religion, Sumerian, you know, and all that stuff. And, you know, now I understand some of what that is. But I, I asked her, I'm like, well, why would, you know, somebody as influential as Inanna, or what I presume to be Anki, introduce themselves to an average person? It doesn't make sense. And Stella told me they wouldn't. You know, I, I told her that I'm just an average person. I mean, I, I don't have any political office. I don't have power. I'm not rich. I'm just a normal person there, I'm not important. And she told me I was wrong, that I am, but I don't understand how or why. And I don't, I don't, I don't know why these beings have targeted me for doing the things that they do, but they do. So over the course of these experiences, my wife is having dreams with, with us being on, on the ship. So there's a, there's a ship that these entities are on. And Stella So the Mantis lady is the person in charge. So there's tall gray there that I've affectionately called Grumps. So Grump is a very grumpy, you know, kind of like he's in charge of the lower guys. So the smaller Grays on the ship and they're. Whenever they do something wrong, like, he's visibly annoyed. So. But one of the. The first interactions was that we were on the ship and my wife wakes up and she starts moving around. So she has a high pain tolerance. She has a much higher pain tolerance than me. She's had dreams where they were trying to give her the. Whatever to sedate her and keep her down. And they talking amongst themselves and saying that they can't give her anymore because it would affect her negatively. So they. They wouldn't give her anymore. So she starts to wake up and then eventually moves around the ship and sees other people in the area that we were at that are on. On tables in that room. That was one of her dreams. And then another one where she's up and she's moving around and Stella's there and allows her to move around. And the grumpy Gray, he doesn't like it and opposes it and asks Stella why she allows it. And she replied, you wouldn't understand because she's in charge. He's not gonna question it at that point and just let her do what she wants. My wife is moving around the ship, notices that there's a container, and on that container has like a biohazard symbol, you know, and she. She doesn't touch it, but she's close to it. And the. The grumpy gray realizes that she's close to it and immediately rushes over to pull her away from it and asks her if she did touch it. And she replies, no, I didn't. At that point. That's kind of when that. That ends. So that's. That's another dream that she had. Any case, she reports that there's Stella on the ship and she's the Mantis Lady. The tall gray is there. He's kind of in charge of the small guys. The small guys are tasked with going around and doing, like, whatever mundane tasks. But she also states that there's these smaller creatures there that she. She calls Wookiees. So they're maybe, you know, three foot tall, look similar to the Wookiee from Star wars, but they don't talk and they don't telepathically speak to her. But I believe that they have telepathic abilities. When she's up there. You know, she treats them kind of like pets, you know, hangs out with them and then feeds them treats and plays with them. That's in direct opposition to Grumps. He doesn't like the idea of it, but is allowed to. There's other instances that she reports that while she's up there, she's seen other entities. There was an instance where another mantis entity, not Stella, was also on the ship, walking past the room while she was there with one of the Wookiees, and seemed confused that she was holding the animal. So he went in there, he pulled the animal from her hands and then put it on the ground. And she went back to pick it back up again. And he put it back down on the ground, and she picked it back up again. And at that point, one of the small grays walked by. He asked one of the small grays, what is this? Is this normal? And the small gray said, yeah, it is. And the. The mantis asked, well, who allows it? And the short gray said, she does. At which point he went about his business and he walked out of the room. So that was a separate dream. And then there was another dream where I was woken up. So I don't remember being woken up. There were several instances where I was woken up in different dreams. I don't remember it. But this is what was reported to me. The first time that I was woken up, she had convinced one of the small wookies to wake me up. So I don't know, they have some kind of psionic ability that allows them to do that or some ability to do that. So it woke me up while I was on the table. As soon as I woke up, and I looked at her and I said, hon. She said, the room was flooded with grays and what I assume was Stella. So they all ran into the room, and then the dream had ended. Then there was another instance with another dream where she had convinced an older Wookiee. So she. She was asking them to do it to. To wake me up. And the. The room she was in, a room full of them. You know, from what my understanding is, is that there's. There's cages of these. These Wookies on the ship. So I assume that it's something like a breeding facility or these animals. But in any case, so there was a group of them, and there was this older one with, like, disheveled hair. Like, you know, it looked older than the rest of them and was a little heavyset. She said she. He walked toward her to accept what she had asked to be done. She picked him up or tried to pick him up, and he was heavier than the other ones, you know, stop trying to pick him up. And then held his hand and then walked him over to me. So after she did that, he did something, put his hand on me or something, but it woke me up. So she said, as soon as I woke up, I sat up and then bolted out of the room and started running around. So at which case, the small gray had come into the room and said, where is he? And, oh, no. And then she said that the small gray had went back out, and then the tall gray Grumps came in and was asking where I was, and then commenced to say, well, I'm going to have to get contact Stella. So I don't know how they communicate, you know, wherever they are doing what they are, but he contacts Stella and Stella's in a meeting with her higher ups. So apparently there's a hierarchy of these beings, even the Mantis, beings that. Who are supposed to be at the top, that there's another whoever in charge of her. So in any case, you know, she comes down there and then, they assume, recapture me. So. And then in the third instance where I was waking up, there was like a young Wookiee. So I assume because it was young, it didn't know any better, and she convinced it to wake me up. So when she did, apparently I had made my way to one of the jump ships that they have and stole it. So Grumps was informed, Grumps goes and contacts Stella. Stella again is in another meeting, stops what she's doing to come and find me. My wife says that they put out a notice to other factions, that the ship that was out was rogue and it wasn't in control by them. So they recaptured me because the ship had stalled out and then brought me back. So Stella said that that wasn't the first time that I've taken one of their ships and that I've taken one of their transport vehicles before. So when they. When she was talking with Grumps before they went out to go get me, she asked how many, and Grumps said one. So then he knew that it was just me out there and not all of us. It's pretty wild. Like. Like I said, I don't want to believe it. I mean, that there's this. This scenario is going on, but this is what's reported to me. I don't have those. Those dreams and those experiences. I have very vivid dreams about other things that go on, whether I'M having these experiences and then thinking that I'm having a dream about something else, like a screen memory that could be possible, but I'm not sure. So Stella says since. Since those incidents, whenever I go on the ship, they put warning signs up now to let them know that I'm there, that be on extra caution. So after that event, you know, I was joking around with my wife and I told her so I was like, so what was I like, something like Bugs Bunny and, you know, just joking around. And she said that Stella said, no, that I was more like Wiley Coyote instead because of my core personality. Like I said earlier, there. There are other factions out there. So whatever faction Stella is like, I assume that factions would work similar to how we have different nations and then we have like a united nations or like there's a governmental system between them where they're not all the same. You know, my wife had instances where she would have dreams where we would be abducted by and gray entities that aren't part of Stella's faction. So. And it primarily happens after I do a deep meditation. The first time, it was reported that we were taken into the backyard and we were being brought through a portal. And before we went through the portal, we were standing in the backyard, and the. One of the gray entities had grabbed onto her wrist to bring her through the portal. And then there was like a light that had came from her arm. That entity then let go of her arm and then went to another one of the entities that was there, one of the Grays and said, put them back. And he said, what do you mean? Why would we put them back? He said, because she's going to be angry. He said, well, what are you talking about? So he told the other gray to go back and check. So the other gray went back and then held onto her, her wrist, her arm, and then proceeded to bring us back. That was the first instance. We also had an instance where the, like, there was orbs in the house. So. But they weren't Stella's faction. They were a different faction that had been checking things out because I had been meditating. And they fell focus their attention on my youngest son. So while my wife was in the bathroom, she was getting communications to go check on my son. So she quickly went up and went to go check. And when she did, he was sleeping on his bed. But there was a blue orb that was floating above him. And as soon as she had seen the blue orb, it quickly moved and left. And as soon as it moved, there was a shadow entity that Moved with it on the other side. So there was also an instance where my youngest son had disappeared. So we were in. I was at work. My wife was at the house with the boy. He was sleeping on the couch. She did some. Some errands and some laundry, and she came back to check on him, and he wasn't on the couch. So she checked around the area. She checked the floors. She checked around, you know, all around that area, and then immediately went to go check the doors. All the doors were still locked. There's no way he could have got out. So she's freaking out because, you know, she thinks that he's missing. While she's looking for him, she hears him crying. So he was in the same spot that he was originally on the couch. Whoever it was that took him immediately brought him back. Right after they took him. You know, maybe they realized, like, who he was connected to or what. But, you know, it was. It was quick. So they brought him back. So I think, you know, there's these factions, and they don't step on each other's toes. So if they have a project or, you know, something that's going on, they don't. And they realize that somebody else or something else is working on that or they're, you know, protecting them. They won't mess with them. They'll back off, you know. And then there was another instance where I had been meditating, and my wife reported that there was a dream that she had where everything was black and she was being asked questions. Now, there was a woman and a man. So the man was asking her questions about things. The man asked, where do you think you are? And she said, on the ship. And she asked, well, where are the Wookiees? He said, what Wookiees? He said, the Wookies that are on the ship. So the guy, he said that we don't have those. I don't even know what you're talking about. So the woman then came into the conversation, and the guy asked the woman, what are Wookiees? Have you ever heard of these? And she said, yeah, I've heard of them, but I've only ever heard of one other faction that has those. At which point her dream abruptly ended. So I think there was another instance where they figured out that we were tied to something else or someone else and immediately brought us back. There was another dream where she was on the ship, and she was. After that, she was on the ship and she was playing with the. The Wookies again. And she said that there was another tall gray that she hadn't seen before who came in. And Stella was there as well. And the. The tall gray had one of those wookies with them and gave it back to Stella and said, take it back. It's broken. And she said, well, what do you mean? She said, well, it. Like, it wants constant attention and it wants treats, so what's wrong with it? So Stella replied that it came from the medium batch and that it had had close contact with humans. At which point the. The tall gray looks surprised. And then that was the end of that dream. So I think. I think that these. These Wookiee animals that they have, because they have some kind of psionic ability, I think that instead of being used as pets, you know, I think they're being used more like tools of some sort, like a work animal rather than a pet. Like, if it was a pet, you know, you'd want to give it affection, you want to give it attention, I mean, because that's why you have it. But it appeared as though these entities use these animals more like a work animal rather than a pet. So she had another dream and another point where she had seen one of the reptilians on the ship. Again, when she had seen the reptilian, it looked confused and had asked one of the. The gray is there if that was normal. He said, yeah, and asked, who allows it? And they said, she does. At which point he went about his business and kept moving. And that was the end of that dream. My wife also had a dream where she was moving around in the ship, just kind of exploring. And she came on a room that had tubes in them that looked like. Like babies in the tube, like human babies in the tube. And Grumps was there because he was tasked with following her around the ship to make sure that she wasn't going to get into trouble. So that's why there's always a gray there with her as she's moving around the ship, just to make sure that, you know, nothing bad happens, especially after instances, you know, throughout. So in any case, she asked about the babies and wants to know if any of those is hers. He points to one of them and tells her, that girl is yours. At which point she says, I want to take it. I want to take it home. And Grumps tells her that she can't. And if she did that, the baby wouldn't survive on Earth. There's no way that she can. For a period of time after she had that dream, she was randomly hearing a baby cry in. In real life, you know, while she's conscious and awake at home. I didn't hear it, but, you know, she did, and she was pretty distraught by hearing it. And that went on for at least a couple weeks. She reported that she had a dream where she had succeeded on actually getting the baby out of the tube and got the baby out of the tube and had one of the wookies with it and used the wookiee to wake me up and that we were all in a ship trying to escape. But we were eventually apprehended. So I think one of Stella's main goals is to change my core personality type. She wants me to be more positive and to see the beauty in the chaos and stop being the negative, defiant, stubborn person that I continue to be. Now, I don't know why. I don't. I'm not sure if it's altruistic and they're doing it just because, you know, they're trying to be nice or because there's some ulterior motive associated with that. So if these interdimensional beings are. 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Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
So off of the. The dream subject. Not too long ago, one of my. My family friends had. Had passed away and well, he was. He's more like an acquaintance. He's a guy that I work with and his, his father had passed away and that night Stella told me that he was with his son driving in the Corvette and to tell his wife and she gave me her name that everything was going to be okay. So I went back and I asked my co worker to confirm if the. His mom's name was in fact that. And it was. And I asked him if his father had. His father's son or his brother had had a Corvette. And he said yeah. So he confirmed both points that the. What the name of the wife was and he confirmed that his. That the other one had the Corvette. So for me that was a confirmation that they have a link to the spiritual world on the other side. So like I was saying earlier with, you know, this being a simulation, you know, that may be another world that's attached to this one kind of like, I don't know, like a storage or just the next step in what we're doing, like if this is a spiritual evolution thing, like maybe that's like the holding area until you go back in to try again or. Or what. So I. I don't know. So there's that on top of that, you know, my. My mother recently passed away as well. Now my mom, when I had the experiences where I felt presences, I told my mom about it and she told me that she believed me because she could see things that other people say aren't there. So. And she's not the only one. My nephew has reported the same thing where he has seen people that weren't supposed to be there. So for example, my nephew was at a. At his house and he was in his room just relaxing. And he said there was this old woman that walked past his doorway and being astonished because he's the only one who's supposed to be in the house. You know, he doesn't know what's going on. And then as the woman walks past, this little dog passes with her. He's freaked out by it. He goes, he leaves. And he looks out the doorway and she's not. She's gone. She's nowhere to be found. He looks around the house, nowhere to be found. So he goes, he leaves, he comes back, he talks to the downstairs neighbor and explains what he had seen. And the downstairs neighbor had said that that was the description of the woman who had died in his house previously, and that was the description of the dog that she had had. And there's no way that he could have seen them because she had died years previously. So that's an instance where, you know, both my mother and my. My nephew have seen something that they or a person who has already passed that shouldn't be there. So, so like I was saying recently, my, My mother passed away. So two weeks before my mother passing away, my wife goes to pick up the. The cake for my son because his birthday was around that time. So she goes to pick up the cake and she's waiting at the bakery. There's a woman standing there with her. And then she tells the guy what she wants. He goes back to go get it. She said that there was another woman who came up who gave her a hug and then told her to tell Jay that I said hi and that everything is going to be okay. And then she. She gives her a hug and then walks away. My wife turns back to go deal with the cake situation and then realizes that she didn't get the name of the person. So there's no way to relay the information. She turns back. When she turns back, the woman's gone. So she looks at the baker who just comes out and says, did you see which way the woman went? So he says, what woman? And then points to the lady who's standing next to my wife. She says, no, it's not that woman. The other woman that was just here said there was no other woman. And then the lady who's standing next to her, she asked her if she had seen which way the woman went. And the woman that was standing next to her also said that there was no woman there. So at the time, I didn't understand what was going on. When my wife relayed the information to me that a woman had come up to her and did that, I didn't think anything of it. I said, okay, well maybe it's just somebody saying hi and you know, and I don't know, maybe it's because of, you know, my friends father who passed away. You know, maybe it has something to do with that. So I didn't think nothing of it. And then two weeks later, my mom passes away. And I didn't think anything about it until my brother brought it up. He's like, well, didn't you tell me that she had an incident where she was at? And then she Got approached by somebody, and I say, yeah, but I, you know, I didn't put two and two together until he said something about it. There's that. And then, you know, I was talking with my sister about it. And she's also had an experience where she was at the hospital. She had a premature baby. Before she had the baby, the doctors checked her out and told her that she was good to go home. So they left. And she said that a woman came into the hospital room and then told her that she wasn't going anywhere and that she wasn't okay and that the baby wasn't okay and she needed to stay there, that the woman left the room. Then the nurses came back in. When the nurses came in to, you know, help her leave, she told them that the lady who came in told her that she's not okay. So they weren't sure who she was talking about. So the doctors, they come back in and they're looking her over, and they decide to keep her there. Well, they looked at the security camera footage, and no woman went into that room, but it showed in the camera. From what my sister says is that the. The door opened as if somebody had pushed the door open and then somebody had come through. You know, I just find it similar to the instance where, you know, my wife is getting the cake and then, you know, a woman comes up and then tells her everything's going to be okay. So also, the. The day that my mother passed away, on my way home, I had a terrible headache all day. But on my way home, I noticed that there was a lot of birds flying toward my vehicle. And it was really odd. It was enough for me to say, hey, what's going on here? So later on, when I got home, I started talking to my wife about it, and she said, stella says that the birds were messengers, and messengers of what, I don't know. So as the night goes on, I get a message from my aunt later that night that my mother had passed away. It was a difficult moment. A few weeks later, my. My wife has taken my youngest son to a social event at the fire hall. When they. They got there, they were. They were going around looking at stuff, doing stuff, and she was standing there talking to somebody, and she thought she saw the backside of my mother standing there, but she wasn't quite sure. So she kept talking to the other people that were there. But my son afterward, because he was in the. In the stroller, my son afterward told her or that he had seen my mom. Now he used my mom's name you know, what we call her, but he hasn't met her. I mean, my mom, she'd been sick for a long time and she had been in Kingston for like 12 years and had never met the boy. And we don't really talk about her like that at the house, so he couldn't have overheard the name. But in any case, he said that he had seen a portal open up. At this point, he's 4 years old, so he said he had seen a portal open up and the biggest big eyes that he had ever seen come out of the portal with a heavy set or a, he said, a fat woman. And that she said what her name was and that she wanted to meet him because she loves him. She had never been able to before. You know, I think that was an instance where, there, where Stella is trying to make me happy and had my mom's spirit come through and see the boy. So I think that there's a connection with the other side and these entities. You know, since then there's been other instances where like, like I wasn't sure, like with the, the arrangements if my mom was going to be okay with the arrangements. And I, you know, I was kind of stressing about it and Stella said that everything was okay. That mom. Mom liked everything that I was doing. She. She thought I was crazy for doing it, you know, but. And because she didn't want to have all of it done, it was it because of the, the effort involved in doing what I did, but I did it. So she, and she was happy with it and that she would never, she could never be mad at me for that. There was that instance. And you know, I believe that my mom is still kind of hanging out and she doesn't want to move on. And I believe my mom is just as, as stubborn as I am. So she's not gonna move on without knowing that her kids are gonna be okay. So occasionally, you know, Stella will say something like, you know, your. She'll be like, your mom wanted to let you know that, you know, she finds it interesting that you still have this knickknack that we. She gave me like however many years ago. Or like, you know, the other night they were talking, she was talking about the cooking and she made like a specific dish that was like. But it was a store bought one instead of a homemade one. So Stella was relaying the, the recipe that my mom had to my wife through Stella. So, you know, like I said, I think that wherever we go after we're done here, they have access to it. I'm not sure that they primarily live there. Or maybe it's just a go through between where it's just a way through, but they have access to it for sure. And that makes sense. If these entities are extra dimensional, they have the ability to do things that we wouldn't be able to. So the way that I'm looking at it is similar to like a video game. Okay? So you have your characters in game. So if you look at the people as if their characters in game, right. Our time flows, right? So but to these entities, they're outside of the game in some respects, and then they have access to the game through like avatars. So when they say that the body is just a vessel, for example, like Bob Lazar was talking about it now the entities were saying that the body is just a vessel, then it's similar to a video game where you have a character in the video game and then you can control the character in the video game. The technology that they have is so advanced that it appears as though it's magic to us. Like we. We just can't believe that they can do what they can do. But if you look at it through the eyes of a video game or a simulation, then everything makes sense. It's just these entities have admin status. They can do things like God mode or fast travel or, you know, whatever. At least that's the way that I see it currently with my current understanding. If I get new data, then, you know, that may update how I see the world. But as it is now, it seems as though that this is a sort of simulation and that, like I said, I'm not sure it's a computer. I mean, it may be biological in nature. Consciousness itself may be a fractal. It might be like a Mandelbrot set where consciousness begets consciousness begets consciousness. Like a mirror in front of another mirror. It's like, how far does it go? I don't know. But that's why I stated earlier that this is one of the most complex questions that anybody can ask. The nature of reality itself.
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Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Thank you for sharing all that, Jay.
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Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Yep. I think that was the. The end. And I'm sorry. I mean, it's. It's taken so long to go through it all. I just. I know that there was a lot of information.
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Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
That's okay. You did just great. How'd you feel?
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Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
You know, now that I've said everything out, part of the reason why I didn't want to do the interview is because I didn't want to give what's happening, Credence? You mean, like, once I say it out loud, it gives it, you know, more life, more realism. Because, you know, part of me just doesn't want to accept that any of this is real. I don't want to accept that. And that's why I keep pushing it back. I keep. I keep having pushback, you know, and I. And questioning things and like, some of this stuff, if this stuff is real, then this changes everything. Not all of it doesn't even have to be real. There's just a few things in here that have to be real. And it's reality shifting and it's a huge ask.
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Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Do you believe that your childhood sightings are connected with your later experiences?
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Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Oh, yeah. Yeah. My. I didn't tell you before, but my. My brother, he's had experiences too, so. Around the same time that we seen the blue light, he reported seeing later on, after I talked to him about it, he reported seeing the three beings with a. With a. Like a tannish color skin, with the large eyes that. That came into the room because we used to sleep in my mom's room. So, I mean, it's all connected. They've been watching me for a long time. I mean, and it's not just that now. They're. They're watching the whole family. Like I was telling you before I got the. There's grays that are posted up in my house. They're kind of like guardians or sentinels, you know, because we've had these other entities that come in and snatch us up. Those other ones that are here kind of watch over things. So, you know, they don't have names. We gave them nicknames, and they don't have to take those nicknames. So but they. They kind of do, like, when they want. So we. Graymond is the name that I gave the one who likes to mess with the electronics. Graymond is the one who messes with electronics. So he does like the computer stuff. And I'm pretty sure he's the one who posted the. The second picture of the gray entity that was. That's in my attic. It would. It doesn't stay there. It's just. It was there and they took a picture. One of them took a picture probably with one of our phones and uploaded it onto my social media. Yeah, I didn't do that. I was in the shower when that got posted. Right? And then my wife was busy doing stuff in the living room, so she didn't do it. I asked her, are you doing it? So, you know, the only Other option here is that my wife is some kind of super secret spy agent level of competence and is running some unimaginable campaign to get me to believe whatever it is that she's telling me or these things exist. And I find it really hard to believe that she has the aptitude to pull off something like that. So. Well, like I said, we got the Grays that are posted up here, so we got Graymond, right? So he's like the tech guy. And then Big Eyes is kind of the, the one who watches over my youngest son. And then we have what I call the Tweedles. So Tweedledum and Tweedledee because they like to mess with things, they think they're helping, but they're not. So like they, they mess with my coffee pot and cause it to overflow or they, they take like, they mess with our, our animals and then get all our, our reptiles all riled up and start like banging against cages and things like that. So, I mean, we have the Tweedles. And then there's a new one that, that showed up that's friends with Big Eyes called Terry. I didn't know about this one until my youngest son notified me that Big Eyes has a new friend named Terry. He's scared of humans, so he kind of like backs off. I asked which one it was in the photo, and Stella confirmed that it wasn't any of the normal ones. So I'm assuming that that was Terry who got the photo taken of. I'm not sure. So, but, but yeah, it, There's a lot, man. There's a lot going on. You know, I just, I don't want to believe that it's real, but I can't say that it's not because all of the experiences that I've had, you know, you can, you can explain away certain things, right? Like you can say, you know, it's just sleep paralysis or hypnopompic hallucinations or. I mean, it's, you know, when you, when you, when I wake up, I see symbols sometimes. So I mean, they say that that's phosphenes, so. But I think they're, they're just trying to make excuses for the thing because they don't understand the thing. So. And I think science and religion are both trying to solve the same question, but they don't understand that they're, they're looking. They're like if you have two blind people trying to describe what they're seeing, right, or what they're experiencing, and one person who's blind grabs a hold of the elephant's leg and tells you it's a tree. And the other person grabs a hold of the trunk, right, and tells you that it's a snake because they're, they're using the senses that they have. They don't have the ability to see that it's an elephant, so they're using their other senses to tell them what it is. So the one is wrong because he says it's a tree. Obviously it's not. The other one's wrong because it, it's not a snake. Right, but neither one of them understand that. They're, they're trying to describe the same thing and they're describing aspects of the same thing, but on different sides. So at least that's how I see it.
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Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Yeah, that is true. Are you religious?
[119:25]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
I was baptized Roman Catholic, but I've, I've never practiced. I, you know, I'll go to a church during events, you know, when I'm asked to. You know, half of my kids are baptized, the other half haven't. I've also been married in a church, so. But not, not overly religious. No, but that, that's part of the reason why I'm, I'm trying to understand what all this is. I mean, and I'm looking. I mean, because it's up to everybody. It's your own personal choice, right, to look into these things. Use your constructive criticisms or your, your, your, your own judgment discernment to try and figure out what's going on. So, I mean, which one's the true faith? I mean, I don't know. I don't know which one's the true faith, but I mean, you have multiple options. It's like this person says this, this person says that, so on and so forth down the line, you know, I mean, and part of the reason why everybody is fighting is because of these belief systems that they don't even know that they're, they're true or not. They're just, they're basing it off of what other people are saying, specifically with religion. You know, they're basing it off of texts that happened way back when. They may have artifacts from back then, but the witness accounts of the people who've witnessed the miracles ain't around no more, so you can't really tell. So it's just this long drawn out, like, what the hell? I don't, I don't know. So. But at this point, from my own personal experiences, there's something going on. There is an, there is an afterlife, There is something outside of our reality. Whether it's, you know, God through the Christian faith or the Jewish faith, or the Monad through Gnostic faith, or everything is Shiva. Like the, the Shabaism says that, you know, everything is just Shiva playing it, playing a divine game. You know, it's. It's up to every person to figure it out for themselves. At this point, like I said, I'm pretty sure there's something outside of this system. And I'm pretty sure that when I died, I seen it. I seen and I didn't know. So when I looked into Kashmir Shabaism, they describe the egg of creation in the void. So they just, they described the exact thing that I seen. But I didn't read that until like three years ago. And when I had my near death, it was over 22 years ago. So there's no way for me to have known that information. So from my personal perspective, I mean, that makes sense to me. Like Kashmir Shivaism makes sense to me that we are all of the one. We're all of the one, the source, right? Everything is Shiva and we're just all having divine play. We got bored and we created a world to play in it. So it's no different than a dream. Everything is just whether, you know, when you say simulation, it's no different than a dream. When you're dreaming, it's the simulation, it's the same thing. Like I said earlier, if you're dreaming it, are you making it or is something else making it? Either way, it's being made. So I'm on the fence. So the way I'm looking at it personally right now, I see that we are in a. In a Gnostic reality nestled within a Chevaic reality. So we created this Gnostic reality as the. The game, and then the, the breakout through the Archons and the Demi Urge as like the bosses of the game. And then once we beat that, we go back to the Monad and you realize that the Monad and the Source creation for Shiva are the same thing. They're just two different ways to go about it. The Monad is just. It is what it is, and it does what it does on its own without knowing that it's doing it. It's just creating to create. Whereas, you know, in Shivaism it's like yeshiva. You created all of this and then eventually you put all the Legos back in the box. So when they see Shiva, they see him as the destroyer. Oh no, he's going to destroy everything. And he's taking apart the Legos, putting Them back in the box so that we can create again. It's a cycle. It goes on forever. That's where I'm at with religion right now. I can't prove it. Most people can't prove their religions to be real or not. But like I said, it's up to each individual person because each individual person is their own consciousness moving through the maze. We're all trying to find our way
[124:04]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
through the maze in all different places at all different speeds, right?
[124:08]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
In Gnosticism, that's the process of gnosis, of knowing. So once you know it, you know that's the only way out, is to know it. And know that the Demiurge and the Archons, that this world that we're in, that they've constructed, this three dimensional world, is theirs. Right? But we are not of it. We're of the Monad. So we have to find our way out, right? So once you. Because if you fight it, if you fight the Demiurge, that's what he wants. He wants you to fight. He wants the loosh. He feeds on that. He feeds on the negativity. He feeds on the. The constant fighting. That's what he wants. But if you realize that he doesn't matter and that none of. None of what he does matters and that you aren't of it and you can find your way out. So. But I think that's part of the game is to find our way out of the system. And like I had said earlier, you know, Stella had told me that I had found my way outside the system before. I broke the rules before. And she told me that whoever is in charge of this simulation, this place, has put safeguards into it because of things that I've done. So I think that that's why they're. They're following me. Not because of, you know, me being some important thing that's going to change things or it's because I've done things that they don't like that I've done. So she's more like a interdimensional parole officer. That's how I look at it, you know, keeping me out of trouble, making sure I'm not going to open the doors that I'm not supposed to.
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Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
This is just like that film, what was it? Jim Carrey film. The one where he's in, like a TV show.
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Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Oh, the Truman Show.
[125:50]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
That's it. Truman show, where he finally opens up that door to the studio.
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Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Yeah, but we're all like that. It's everybody's like that. It's everybody is creating their own reality for themselves. So it's. Everybody's figuring their own way out, as far as I know. I mean, that's my working hypothesis is that we're all trying to find our way out. Now what's really going on? I don't know. Like I said, it could be that it's just a, like an AI program that's using us as virtual machines to train the AI program. I mean, it's no different than, you know, what, what the AI modelers are doing now. They do the same thing. Like they, they run the virtual simulation before they have the real world robot with the, the AI in it to do the said task. So they do it a certain amount of times before it learns how to do it. But it's all virtually before it does it physically. So it could be doing the same thing. So because it doesn't make sense, it's like how many times do you have to experience being born? How many billion. There's billions of people in the world. You think that you wouldn't have to know after the first billion times. So. But the same could be said for any other action. So really, what is it after? It would be after whatever novel experiences that you have. Anything new, it would be after that. And the only way that you can get to the new is by new combinations. You combine things that you weren't normally combining before to get to said thing.
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Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
So pretty deep, Jay. Certainly loads to unpack.
[127:13]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Like I said, that's where my mind is. I'm not the smartest person in the world. I mean, I, I didn't even go to college. I just caught up in real world stuff, you know, and I'm just, I'm an average guy trying to understand what's going on. But I'm not sure, I'm not sure that those Wookies, man, or whatever. Like I've heard one other person talking about them. It was one of the military guys, older fellow, kind of stout and fat. I can't remember his name, but he's only ever mentioned it once that they're, they're there. But I, I can't help but think that, you know, instead of being the, the Wookiees, man, maybe there's a connection between them and the Bigfoot is if, if they're doing genetic manipulation, right? And they're, they're doing whatever they're doing. I mean, they could also have the DNA for these, these other beings, these, the Sasquatch, and then do whatever to make the things that they have. So I mean, they could be their product. I mean, humanity could be their product. I mean, if you look at the. The stories of the Anunnaki, you know, and the Watchers coming down and doing what they're doing. I mean, like I said, I looked into the Sumerian thing too, but it was only after that I heard that name in my mind, which led me down that path. I didn't hear it before that. So, I mean, there may be something to this Sumerian mythology. And, you know, maybe they're describing something outside of the system that we're in now. I mean, it may not be that it was here physically. I mean, it could be somewhere else. I don't think it's what we think it is. So what mainstream people think it is, I think they're. They're content with letting us think that it's that as a form of misdirection.
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Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Easier to absorb, isn't it? It's a really complex subject. People have so many experiences and different experiences, subjective experiences. It's like a big onion, you know.
[129:12]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
The way that it all fits is that it's all consciousness. Consciousness is fundamental. Everything starts as a thought. So, you know, even, you know, lifting your hand up. I mean, there's electrical signals that come from the brain, but where does the brain get the thought to do that, to send the signal, right? So it's all about consciousness. So ultimately, if we are all part of Source, right? And we're all. We are of Source, and we have some limited ability that Source has. Like, if we're just fractals of it, we may be just a diminished version of it, you know, trying to evolve and become. Because like I was saying earlier, like, we could be the way, like consciousness, right? Could be procreating. It could be like. Was it mitosis or cellular division, where it divides itself? So it's just. It's dividing itself right into these. These different vessels. And then those different vessels, or the. The end. The consciousness in those vessels goes through this journey of growth to get to the point to where it can be what the original was, and then it continues on and does it again. So who knows how many Source consciousnesses there are. That's why I said if it's like a mirror in front of another mirror, I mean, it could be infinite for all we know. It could be finite, but it could be infinite. How many consciousness they may have all come from one. There may be a ultimate source, Source consciousness, but that doesn't mean that whatever is creating this reality is the Source Consciousness.
[130:43]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
You must wreck your head Sometimes.
[130:45]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Oh yeah, you know, I get bored raking dirt. Great stuff, Jay.
[130:48]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Okay, Jay, I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.
[130:52]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Yep. Thank you for having me.
[130:53]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
You're more than welcome. It's great to meet you. Okay, take care of yourself and we will speak soon.
[130:58]
Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
All right, bye.
[130:59]
Nick Hunter (UFO Chronicles Host)
Thank you. Bye for now. Well, that is all for this episode. Keep updated and connected with the show on X, Facebook and Instagram. And if you have an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast, you can email me@ufocroniclesmail.com or you can reach out to me via the contact page on my website ufocronicles podcast.com a big thank you to Jay for sharing tonight and thank you all for listening. I will be back next week. Till then, stay safe and keep watching. Watching the skies. Goodbye.
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Jay (UFO/Paranormal Witness)
Sam.
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Ep.397 The Hudson Valley Encounters

Ep.397 The Hudson Valley Encounters

UFO Chronicles Podcast – Ep. 397: The Hudson Valley Encounters

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points & Experiences

Early Years: Childhood Encounters

Major Turning Points: Out-of-Body and Paranormal

Abductions, Symbols, and Dream Phenomena

Family Experiences & Recurring Entities

The Mantis Entity “Stella”

Deepening Contact, Abduction Factions, and Family Involvement

Crossing with the Afterlife and Ancestry

Reflections on Reality, Consciousness, and Philosophy

Simulation Theory, Gnosticism, Shaivism (109:00–124:00)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Timestamps for Major Segments

Closing Thoughts

UFO Chronicles Podcast – Ep. 397: The Hudson Valley Encounters

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points & Experiences

Early Years: Childhood Encounters

Major Turning Points: Out-of-Body and Paranormal

Abductions, Symbols, and Dream Phenomena

Family Experiences & Recurring Entities

The Mantis Entity “Stella”

Deepening Contact, Abduction Factions, and Family Involvement

Crossing with the Afterlife and Ancestry

Reflections on Reality, Consciousness, and Philosophy

Simulation Theory, Gnosticism, Shaivism (109:00–124:00)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Timestamps for Major Segments

Closing Thoughts