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Charlie Sheen
We would just drink all night and then throw on a tunic and storm the castle the next day. Pretty awesome. I should sign up for one of your seminars, one of your programs. You know, we're not going to have as much time to say goodbye as you're going to wish that we did. I know that sounds grim, and it's not really, you know, progressive or passive parenting. I get that. But I just want them to feel the value of time.
Michael Smyken
I had the privilege of reading book. Loved it. The Book of Sheen.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah.
Michael Smyken
Up for the Book of Sheen. We're gonna give copies out. Say yes. The Book of Sheen. Thank you.
Charlie Sheen
Thank you.
Michael Smyken
And.
Charlie Sheen
And let me just add, just because you've seen the doc doesn't mean that you don't need to read the book.
Michael Smyken
Yes, yes.
Charlie Sheen
There's a. There's a lot of. In the book that's not in the doc that I think is.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Is.
Charlie Sheen
Is worthy of. Of your time and. And energy. So.
Michael Smyken
And if.
Charlie Sheen
Thank you.
Michael Smyken
And if I had the privilege and I couldn't recommend it more, and if I had the privilege of sitting and chatting with Mr. Sheehan alone, I would ask him 600 questions. I'm not going to ask him here because I think they would be so fun and fascinating to, like, dig into, you know, in just a completely joyful, voyeuristic way. But that wouldn't serve you or Mr. Sheen this moment. So I appreciate that. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Charlie Sheen
Thank you. And I. I'm gonna venture to guess all these folks do as well.
Michael Smyken
Yes.
Charlie Sheen
Yes.
Michael Smyken
But I can say this. I get if you've done something that you could look back on and go, oh, my God, I cannot believe I did that. Raise your hand and say, yes. Yes. If you've done, like, 50 of those things, say yes.
Charlie Sheen
Yes.
Michael Smyken
So I would love to compete with you someday for who has done more stupid and crazy things. So. And I think I might beat you. So. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
Charlie Sheen
I really think that was fighting words.
Michael Smyken
Yes. Let's go. Let's go. So I could tell you a couple right now that you go, dude, like, really? I think you got me.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah. Okay.
Michael Smyken
Yep. So for everybody, for real, we're in this beautiful place of, like, unconditional love with boundaries. We talk about this a lot. Charlie in the space when blinded, because it's really funny. People, like, could you believe they did that? And before we ever say they did that, it's like, what did we do? And how much do we squander? How much you screw up? And the net effect of anybody's life is to me, what I'm. I'm hoping to look at and be inspired by. So we said it before he came out. I don't know if you could hear us back there, but just acknowledging you for the transcendent level of impact you've created and all these beautiful things you've done. And what was fascinating for me in the book was when you dug into. In your childhood, I think it was. You lived in the Philippines at some point during the filming of Apocalypse Now. Am I correct?
Charlie Sheen
Yes, correct. Yeah.
Michael Smyken
Can you share? Like, what was it like? And it was in the book. It was so beautiful. Imagine, like, Francis Ford Coppola, you know, Martin Sheen as father. Like, they're living in a foreign land. I'm sure the. In the book outline certainly the advanced level of your emotional intelligence, your presence to a different world because of your dad, and so. But what was it like during that time? I thought it was so beautiful in the book. And there was some challenging moments, you know, certainly for your dad, the family, other folks that were engaged in behavioral eccentricities in the world. Like, what would you want us to know about that? And what did it mean to you? Including nothing. I'm. Like, every question I'm here is only if you think there's something valuable for you and the group.
Charlie Sheen
Group.
Michael Smyken
But what was that, like, Apocalypse now in the Philippines? And I think you were 14 when that was that.
Charlie Sheen
No, I was 10.
Michael Smyken
10. I'm sorry.
Charlie Sheen
I was 10. Yeah. And I. And I. I was there so long that I. I turned 11. Because the. The. The joke on the set about the title was that they were starting to call it Apocalypse Never. And so, yeah, I mean, Francis threw a party one day to celebrate 1 million feet of film being shot.
Michael Smyken
Wow.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah. No, it was. It was interesting. It. Because we had. We had traveled with dad to a lot of his other locations, but you still felt like. We still felt like we were still, you know, close enough to home to that. That. That help was always, you know, just over the. Just over the knoll, you know, and. But in the Philippines, we knew that. I think I describe it in the book as an entirely unexampled culture. We didn't know what we were getting into. And the film had to overcome so many obstacles and so many hurdles, and from natural disasters to a very intense health crisis that my dad went through. You know, he had. He had a heart attack making the movie. Right. But then recovered and still went and killed Kurt. So. Talk about an example of an absolute badass.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Right?
Charlie Sheen
That's a lot to live up to, you know, but yeah, no, it's, and it's interesting and the reason I spend a lot of time in the Philippines on Apocalypse in the book is just because it was, it was in a, it was in a formidable, you know, transitional time for me, you know, and yeah, I just, I kind of surrendered it at one point. That, that's pretty much where we were just going to be living. That, that's, you know, that we just put Malibu in our rear view and it was just Manila or bust, you know. But yeah, I mean, I, I, I, it's, it's difficult to really describe things, you know, just in a different way than I already did on the page, you know, and that's not like a cheap trick to say, well, now, you know, obviously you have to read the book to get the real story. But it's what, what I, what I also think about with Apocalypse is then, you know, 10, 10 years later, going back to that same faraway land to, to do Platoon, which is, and, and, and, and narrate it. And if you think about the odds of that happening, like the son of the guy a decade later does his own Vietnam saga and, and narrates it, that's, I mean, what would you place the odds of that happening? Yeah, I like the age of the universe squared. Right. It's, yeah. So I knew, and I don't really write a lot in the book about, you know, the, the, the thematic or, or, or, or the emotional connections between, you know, those two movies. I, I, I, I think you, I think you saw, I, I think you felt this reading the book or, or the audiobook or however that happened with that. I, I, I don't want to tell the reader how they're supposed to feel about the experiencing and that, that, that's a fine line that, that, that, that you have to walk sometimes.
Michael Smyken
And if I could. So sure. Thank you for going right there.
Charlie Sheen
I didn't answer any part of your.
Michael Smyken
Question, you know, you certainly none of it right.
Charlie Sheen
No, that, what I, what I just laid out was useless.
Michael Smyken
Not even.
Charlie Sheen
It was useless. Yeah.
Michael Smyken
Not even remotely sorry about that. Not even remotely. Not even really, because that's exactly where I was going, okay. Was the intersection of Apocalypse now and Platoon.
Charlie Sheen
I got you. Okay, cool.
Michael Smyken
Yeah. And I had our AI agents helping prepare. I did. And what that would have been like. And we don't need to go into this in this moment, but you, your dad, the meaning, the possibility. I'm definitely not trying to manufacture emotional moments. I won't do that. So but, yes, the size of the universe squared. The possibility of these two iconic films in the history of our nation depicting its deepest, greatest, darkest, darkest struggles in war, and Martin Sheen, Charlie Sheen being in these just preposterously impactful movies. Am I hearing you correctly?
Charlie Sheen
What was the last thing you said?
Michael Smyken
Am I hearing you correctly?
Charlie Sheen
Yes.
Michael Smyken
Yes, absolutely right.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah. Yeah. So sorry, there's a feedback loop.
Michael Smyken
Oh, sorry about that.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah, no, it's fine. Work on that. Fine. Yeah.
Michael Smyken
So your transition from the Philippines into and through your high school years, you have your. The 8 camera. What is that called?
Charlie Sheen
The Super 8.
Michael Smyken
Super 8 camera. Rob Lowe, Sean Penn, filming friendship, movies, things. How is that transition from, like, childhood into film? I mean, I think you were in your first film. Was it nine, with your dad, that you had a. An appearance in something? Or am I wrong about that?
Charlie Sheen
No, that is correct. Yeah. It was a. It was a movie of the week called the Execution of Private Slovik.
Michael Smyken
Got it.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah.
Michael Smyken
And then the progression into your film career. And actually, before you go there, what now is the ultimate mission. You're here, you're everywhere. Currently, you're impacting the book, the Netflix documentary. What's the ultimate why behind it? I mean, of course, there's financial abundance, right? And there's generating value, but what's the meaning, the purpose, and from, like, this day to the end, if anything? Because some people I ask that question to, they'll say, ah, just kind of live each day and trying to be happy and fulfilled. Cool. But is there this larger why that drives your heart, your soul, please.
Charlie Sheen
Well, the larger why, as far as this moment right now, with the doc, with the book, and incidentally, two projects that weren't planned to happen simultaneously, they just timed out that way. But I'm grateful that they did because I'm seeing it as an opportunity. Not so much as a. As a comeback, but. But as a. As a reset, you know, just where. Because there's still, you know, there's a lot of people that may only remember me as the guy, you know, in a fricking bowling shirt or screaming, winning, you know, and so it's. It's. It's. It's important for me that. That with. With this amount of exposure and all of it positive, you know, doing so many appearances that people just get a sense that the guy is not insane. He kind of, you know, wandered off the res for about three or four months. Right. And that. That was highly publicized. And that's all on me. I mean, it wasn't like I didn't know that there was a camera, you know what I'm saying? But so, no, so it's a, it's a really cool moment for me right now to just deal with, with so much from my past and, and stuff that people knew and, and other stuff that I revealed that, that, you know, nobody knew and, and just to kind of push everything, just present it in a way where you can, you can watch it, you can read it, you can listen to it. And then I, I, I feel coming out of this, that I can, I can really focus on just moving forward, you know? Thank you. Thank you. And.
Michael Smyken
And, and if I may. And why, like, so, yes, it's first of all, so valuable what you're doing.
Charlie Sheen
Thank you.
Michael Smyken
It really is because everybody in this room has suffered from times that they've lost center a bit. By the way, Michael Johnson. Michael Smyken. Adam Gugino, Frano Valencia. If we played the audio and video of me in Atlantic City with the episodes for the commercials for the Aspire event and heard me the entire time and had the video of my pants being around my ankles as I was screaming and yelling, do you think that the world would think I'm sane? Michael Johnson. Right. So, and I think this is a part of it. Like, you just, you're just on film more, you know, like, and these things are captured more. And so I'm curious, you know, in my heart for, you know, you shared this piece. How much do you think this is just people overreact when people are famous and fundamentally over emphasize a moment of challenge that they themselves have probably been in, in their life. Like, you know, so I'm, I'm, whatever however you relate to is how you relate to it. But whether it's about you or just celebrities, athletes, Hollywood folk, anybody that's caught on camera in a moment, like, how much do you believe in your heart that it's just this overstated distortion of reality that the public creates versus yeah, it's like the human condition. I don't know. Any thoughts?
Charlie Sheen
Yeah, no. I think we're living in a time where everybody really has a thirst for the next spectacle, you know, but that, but there's, there's more, it feels like there's more of, of that today. And I think just because it's, it's, it, it's, it's so easily documented, you know, it, I mean, how many, how many cameras are in this room right now? Trip over a thousand. Right. So, but I think there's another, there's another element that, that comes into Play with, with, with the amount of attention or, or, or the amount of focus that, that, that is given to one event or, or a particular individual. You know, I use myself as an example. I think it had a lot to do with, with a, A, a multi generational connection that I, that I had built over the years through, through film, through television of a, of, of a relationship. Right. That, that, that does in some, a trust between an audience and, and, and the person that they're drawn to, the person that the talent they're rooting for. So I think there was something in play when I, you know, had, that, had that grand departure from all things sane. I think people felt they were curious as hell, but I think they were also, they were concerned for my health, but they also felt in us in a way almost let down. Like, like I had, I had, I had broken some covenant or some, something that, that, that we had spent years developing. Is that, does that make sense?
Michael Smyken
Yes, that's, yes.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah. And I think that was a part of it, which I think is also connected to the reception and the, and the compassion and the love and, and the excitement that I'm encountering with this, this return, this, you know, this invite that's been extended back to, back into the fold, you know, so, yeah, I, I, I feel like people have missed me.
Michael Smyken
Yes. Wes, Amen.
Charlie Sheen
So, so thank you. Thank you. So, so I'm not wrong in feeling that, right?
Michael Smyken
No, you're not wrong.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Okay.
Charlie Sheen
Okay.
Michael Smyken
So thank you.
Charlie Sheen
Thank you.
Michael Smyken
So why. Why I have my own ideas about why people love you and appreciate you and value you. Right? Yes. But, but what? So, because we, and this is part of what we're here to teach, right. Is how people become influential.
Charlie Sheen
And these are, we're here like trying to teach things.
Michael Smyken
We are, believe it or not. Yes. So if, if not, I could ask you about that night you wrote about in the book. I'm just kidding. Right. So we are, and what we're looking to do, that's what I do for a living. I got you a personal law firm. We teach people how they could generate more financial abundance.
Charlie Sheen
Okay.
Michael Smyken
More time, freedom and impact. And so I was on my way to going blind and being broke. I didn't know how to do it. My college baseball careers, captain of the team, thought that that is going to get drafted, that I have retinitis pigmentosa, same eye condition as Steve Wynn. You know, quick background. And so I don't want to go blind and be broke. So I didn't want to be a business person. I Wanted to be an athlete wasn't going to happen. So I had to figure out how you do things. And all of a sudden discovered marketing and sales were a thing. I was horrified and disgusted because I thought marketing and selling was gross and bad. And I was going to be a high school baseball coach, football coach, but I didn't go blind and be broke and do that. So I had to figure out how to succeed. I went to Ivy league undergrad, I went to law school, and nowhere could I find how to do that. So that was my search. It worked. I created massive freedom, massive financial abundance. In my own little mini way. I became micro famous within certain ecosystems of business and opportunity, which is something I teach. So we're here to do is to study that. And one of the principles we talk about and what's a very codified mechanism, like we're a stand for the fact that we're the best in the world teaching and doing this. I bets out with all kinds of fun people for codification of it, etc. So why I say that is because you have, we all have a level of heroic, unique identity that causes people to be drawn to us. And so how I would describe your heroic, unique identity is that you are incredibly funny. You're brilliant, you're witty, right. You're loving. You've played heroic characters. You died for your brother in Red Dawn. You went for it in Wall street, lost yourself, violated covenant with your father, refound it. You turned in the true evildoer of the movie, of course, Gordon Gekko. You reset yourself, you know, and then you went into comedy and television apocalypse, I'm sorry, Platoon. So you have all of these, this, various elements of your personality that show your resiliency, your wit, your, your diversity. So those characteristics are magnetic. Like that's not, not the same thing that you could say about a number of other mega Hollywood celebrities like yourself or Muhammad Ali or Sugar Ray Leonard. These are universal characteristics in the, you know, Joseph Campbell's hero's journey that you represent. And as you articulated a moment ago, and then you had your moment where you went off, some of those characteristics went off the track. But of course the hero's journey is about resiliency. So the depth of love you've created for yourself, it isn't challenging because you had so many much identity, so powerfully magnetized then. In fact, I think people love the comeback even more than they love you staying there the entire time. It's why after Ali lost to Frazier and comes back. So I see some of those elements I don't see. They're clearly demonstrating what you're experiencing right now. This is like what we teach here. But what I'm curious about is how you relate to that. You know, do you. Why do you think people love you and like how you're loved? You're. It's clear, I mean, obvious, right? You walk down the street, people will stop you. They ask for autograph. You're famous. You're one of the most famous people in America. That's absolutely true. It was true before the last couple of months. It's been true for much of your life. Why do you think that people. I gave you some of my thoughts, you know, why do you believe people love you so much? Please.
Charlie Sheen
I think that there's been a consistency that I think, folks, I think they applaud the fact that I've maintained a level of honesty that has been a through line from right when I started getting the attention and just never, never, never betrayed that. You know, if, if, if things went sideways or, you know, off the rails, whatever I was, I was always the guy that owned it. I was always the guy that's here for that. You know what I'm saying? So, thank you. Thank you. So, so I think, I think that's a big part of it because if you, if you look at, at that specific terrain, in my industry, that's not usually the case. You know, people don't usually. They're usually looking to, you know, have a fall guy or, or some fantastical alibi that nobody believes, you know, So, I mean, that, that, that's just the, the main thing that, that comes to mind as far as the why.
Michael Smyken
And I won't, I certainly won't reveal any of the amazing, super interesting, inspiring, funny, crazy moments in the book. Thank you. Yes, but it is. And one of the things I didn't see in the book, and maybe I missed it, was you ever blaming anyone? So consistent with what you're just sharing, it seemed that you were always presenting reality, sharing it, accepting responsibility, being so uber transparent. But if anywhere the finger was pointed in the book, it was at yourself. Am I, am I recounting that accurate?
Charlie Sheen
100%. You are. 100%. Yeah. Because if I blame people, then I'm presenting myself as a victim, and there are no victims in my book.
Michael Smyken
Thank you so much. Is it also accurate to say that some of the things you. First of all, do you feel comfortable saying things that you love about yourself or respect about yourself or proud of these words that are accurate? I don't Want to, like, have inaccurate questions. So are the things about yourself that you love and respect and are proud of, are there those things?
Charlie Sheen
I'm not the best person to rely on for, you know, accessing that, that, that type of stuff about myself. I think that's, I see others doing that and it's nothing that I am best. That's not something I'm, I'm drawn to, you know, But I mean, no, I, I do take credit for the accomplishments and, and, and the perseverance and the discipline and the focus and the longevity and all that stuff, but I, I, I don't ever really think about, you know, I'm a good guy. I'm a, I mean, I'm, I, I just, based on the response of others, I'd like to think that, that there is a goodness that shines through just, and just, you know, walking around just in my daily life, you know, how.
Michael Smyken
Do you, or not, if you don't mind, relate to the concept of self love, loving yourself? Like, it doesn't, yeah. Like, how, how does that statement, like, yeah, if somebody in the audience said, or somebody said, hey, I love myself, like, is that how do you relate to that? Or not just self love.
Charlie Sheen
I look at it more as if I'm doing things that I know are really healthy or positive or just, you know, that I'm tapped into a frequency that I thrive inside of. I view that as a form of self love, you know, so. But I don't like, take inventory at the end of the day or really try to break things down before.
Michael Smyken
Before.
Charlie Sheen
I, I've been engaged, you know, it's, I, you know, I should, I should, I should sign up for one of your seminars, one of your, one of your programs, you know.
Michael Smyken
Yeah. If you think, if you think that we would have a lot of fun, Charlie. And I say yes. Okay. So, so, yes. Fire at lbi. So. And I am in awe to be sitting here.
Charlie Sheen
Oh, thank you.
Michael Smyken
I pinched myself by being here.
Charlie Sheen
Amazing.
Michael Smyken
It is a blessing. Thank you, thank you for that. At the highest level, I do. So I'm just, you know, a kid that grew up in Jersey City and you know, born in hospital with, living in a house. My parents are divorced. My grandfather was blind. So the thought of being here is, is a blessing and it is also, I think, predictable for everybody here to learn how to do that. And that again, is our work, which you are. Stand for. And so from that place, you know, if, and again, I always ask, I don't want to presume things and questions that Are accurate. Sure. But do you ever think about what you'd want to feel and think on your last day, if you're blessed and privileged to know was your last day, if you were to be spoken of and remembered? Are these things that you do think about, whether it's from a higher vibration or healthy place or just no place or is it so I do relate to people sometimes. Like now, like my world, my life is about, you know, I just, I take it every day at a time. I try to live my best day and I keep it right here. Or how, like, what's that all about for you?
Charlie Sheen
Like, like how, like what. How would I want to spend my last day if I knew it was the last day?
Michael Smyken
No, no. If you, if you could fast forward to that day, what would you accomplish between now and then? Or you don't even think that way or feel that way, you know, is there that for you and.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah.
Michael Smyken
Legacy to be.
Charlie Sheen
I actually fantasize about that more in a, In a comedic setting that, that the people that would be in the room. Right.
Michael Smyken
Please.
Charlie Sheen
That I could say to all of them. This is the day that I kept talking about to all of you that all of that, all of that stuff that, that, that, you know, all of that time that you took from me for me having to engage in your, you know, this is, this is the day when I really need that time back. Because, Because, you know, with as much that, that that was absconded with, this wouldn't be the last day. This would probably be my last month.
Michael Smyken
You know, I hope that I am not in that camp.
Charlie Sheen
No, no, not even close. No. But I, but I do actually tell my sons. I tell them, you know, we're going to be on my deathbed and because I'm solving this thing for you again, we're not going to have as much time to say goodbye as you're going to wish that we did. You know, I know that sounds grim and it's not really, you know, progressive or passive parenting. I get that. But I just want them to feel the value of time. The value of time.
Michael Smyken
No. You know, let's hear that. So, so.
Charlie Sheen
Oh, and, and also I'm not dying in a hospital.
Michael Smyken
Okay.
Charlie Sheen
I'm not dying. I don't care what's going on health wise.
Michael Smyken
Where would you want it? Where would you want to die?
Charlie Sheen
I'd be on a, on a, on. In tropical waters.
Michael Smyken
What do you like to get? What do you like to do for fun? I'm sorry, what do you like to do for Fun.
Charlie Sheen
Oh, we didn't finish the dying part. Oh, I'm sorry.
Michael Smyken
Let's go back to, let's go back to dying. Yes.
Charlie Sheen
It's really thought this. Please. No, I just, I, I see people. I, you know, I've seen people, people I love die in hospitals and I, and I just, I'm not, I'm just not. That's not, That's a picture I can't paint for myself, you know, so I would go somewhere beautiful with, with, with people I cared about and others I just met and, and just, you know, keep an emergency dose of something if it got too painful.
Michael Smyken
Yeah.
Charlie Sheen
You know, I mean, you got to plan ahead.
Michael Smyken
Sure.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah. And just, just, you know, confronted on, on, on my terms.
Michael Smyken
That's awesome.
Charlie Sheen
Even though you're in the moment where it's like you like the absolute, like the most grand example of not being in control of that moment, you know.
Michael Smyken
Amen.
Charlie Sheen
But you know what? Yeah. Maybe spend a little more energy on the living stuff.
Michael Smyken
Yes.
Charlie Sheen
On the stuff, like right here, right now. And you know, like, in a situation like today, you never really know what the moment is going to be until in the middle of it, you know, but today I just, I, I, I wish I had more time again to have done a little more research just about, you know, what, what, what all of this is. I was, I was given the, I was given the Cliff Notes. I was given the Cliff Notes and, and, and given a, a pretty legit deep dive into you. Right. And so, and, and honored to, to, to be here. And, and, and thank you. And it, so, yeah, so this is a little bit on the fly. Just kind of putting, putting the pieces together. So I'm, I'm not going to say I'm totally up to speed right now.
Michael Smyken
Intentional.
Charlie Sheen
I'm getting close. Entirely intentions.
Michael Smyken
Entirely intentional.
Charlie Sheen
Okay, good, good, good.
Michael Smyken
So, and you know, as we, we draw towards our last few moments together.
Charlie Sheen
Not on the planet. Just fucking, just. Okay. Okay, good.
Michael Smyken
I'm hoping, I'm hoping.
Charlie Sheen
Okay.
Michael Smyken
Amazing. So you are amazing. You see the power of fun and humor and wit, and you do say yes. So K says thank you. What, what if anything, was your training in humor? Was it natural model? Did you have somebody you looked after and taught picked up from on screen? Like, like how, how would you support these people in gaining some access to a micro fraction of the widow Charlie Sheen?
Charlie Sheen
Oh, gosh, thank you. No. I grew up in a, in a, in a very humor filled household. You know, my dad is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is Just a jokester, you know, and he'll always, he'll lead with humor.
Michael Smyken
True.
Charlie Sheen
And then, and then, you know, decide based on whatever happens to be next. But no, it was, it was just, it was the influences. I, I, I grew up on sitcoms. I, I, I grew up on, you know, the comedic influences of what were some of your favorite, like Woody Allen and, and, and Mel Brooks and, you know, later on, you know, George Carlin, Rodney Dangerfield, I mean, just like these geniuses, you know, But I, I always related to the straight man. You know, I had a ton of respect for the person for, for the clown or the jester. Right. The zany.
Michael Smyken
Yeah.
Charlie Sheen
Person with the, with handling that part of it. But, like, you know, my favorite character, I, I, I, I'm totally dating myself on Get Smart is the chief, Ed Platt. You know, so even if you, if you look at a lot of the comedy that I've done, I'm, I'm always the anchor. I'm the guy in the eye of the storm, and everybody else is that, that maelstrom, that cyclone around me, you know, so that's, that, that's where I feel comfortable. That's where I feel that there's, I'm, I'm much more attracted to the subtlety of humor and not like, in a, you know, an intellectual sense, but just in, in the simplicity of it, if that, if that answers your question.
Michael Smyken
Thank you. And that's what we're here for, you know, we're here to dig into those types of elements. So thank you. Massively helpful.
Charlie Sheen
All right.
Michael Smyken
On, yeah, awesome. So any, like, what do you do for fun and enjoyment? That was not a joke.
Charlie Sheen
I mean, fun for me is a weird word because there's been so many different definitions of that word, versions, as it were. But then, yeah, what do I do for fun? What do I do for fun? I, I mean, I, I, I don't have to seek fun. There's always, there's, there's fun in everything that I do just by doing it. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because I never say, hey, if we do this, we're gonna have fun. Because guess what happens? You never do. You get there, and it sucks. And so I think just again, it's, it's, I, I, I can find humor in everything. And even if it's just me in an internal, private, secret monologue walking around, some of the jokes work, some of them suck. And, but it just, it keeps it light. And that doesn't mean that I'm not In the moment, engaged. Right. But it just. All the voices in my head are all me. Right. So it's not one of those things. But yeah, there's a lot of dialogue that is sort of the soundtrack to everything that I do. So that is fun for me. That's literally fun.
Michael Smyken
Yeah. And I guess this will be. I think that maybe if you have time for one question from audience.
Charlie Sheen
Oh, of course.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Yeah.
Michael Smyken
So is there a. Hey, this would be something I'd like to have happen in the future, whether it be in projects impact. Is there anything like that? Or again, is it more just, hey, you're, you're rolling. And like, how do you make decisions about where things go next? Like what projects you're accepting? Is it fit into a larger, you know, sort of vision for Charlie Sheen or she's like, project, hey, that's cool. That's fun. Like that. Like, how does that fit together or not?
Charlie Sheen
Well, I, you know, it for the first time in a very long time, I'm, I'm, I'm reading material that's at a, at a, at a level I haven't, I haven't been. I haven't had access to in forever. And I think what the, what the doc did that, that really helped is it is took everybody through the filmic journey and through all the archival, the, you know, just to see. Just to remind people that this thing didn't start out, you know, with comedic intent, you know, and so that's been a really powerful and beneficial reminder to, you know, the folks I have to rely on to, to, to, to get work. Right. That there. That I, What I'm hearing now is that, that people are excited about me returning to something dramatic, something intense, something, you know, I've, I've, I've never played a detective and people, People could say, oh, you did the rookie. I'm like, no, no, no, no. That, that was. We were like two guys. You know, we like stolen cars is what. What was our, was our Division G rides. They call them me and Clint Eastwood, you know.
Michael Smyken
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Charlie Sheen
But I've never played like a hardened down on his luck detective who's, you know, who caught that. Either the case he could never solve or the one that's going to make or break or define his career. And those are the shows that I'm. That I, that I, That I really lean into that I'm a huge fan of. You know, so if something like that happens because of all of what's happening, then absolutely. I don't really believe in manifesting Stuff. But I do believe in being aware of when the energy is moving in a specific direction, and that's what I can feel is on the path.
Michael Smyken
Awesome. And this is definitely also not a manifesting space as well. Like, I didn't say. You said that. But to be clear, this is more like sports peak performance. So, like business peak performance will be how, like, this room relates, like, lawyers accounts, financial services, real estate deal. Yeah.
Charlie Sheen
So I don't. I don't. I don't see you, like, chanting into Christmas and all that, you know.
Michael Smyken
That's Bella Verita. Bella, are you here? Yeah, we had her rescued from. That's more of your coast that she used to have.
Charlie Sheen
Yes.
Michael Smyken
So you put her, like, this way. So the. How about. Is there a favorite role, and I know words are particular, or is there something you just truly enjoy differently than everything else? Or is it all kind of the same as all these beautiful, incredible things you've done? Is there a 1, 2, 3, or a couple at the top or. They're all kind of, you know, they all were very meaningful to you. How about that?
Charlie Sheen
You mean that I've done.
Michael Smyken
Yeah. Your roles from the past.
Charlie Sheen
Oh, gosh. The stuff that I. Like this just seems like from another lifetime. It seems so long ago. People ask me what's. What's. What's your favorite movie? And I. And I. I like to say, I haven't made it yet.
Michael Smyken
Yeah, let's hear for that. Yeah.
Charlie Sheen
But as far as the stuff that I. That exists that I've been in, that, like, what. The most fun I've ever had on a film was the Three Musketeers.
Michael Smyken
Really? I love the Three Musketeers, by the way.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah. Thank you. No, they sent us to Vienna. They overpaid everybody. They gave me 28 days off. And. Yeah, we would just drink all night and then throw on a tunic and storm the castle the next day. It was pretty awesome. It was pretty awesome.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Yeah.
Charlie Sheen
Good times.
Michael Smyken
That is super fun.
Charlie Sheen
The hardest job. The hardest film job was Platoon, hands down. But rewarding. The hardest job, period, I've ever had, and the most rewarding was was. Was writing that damn book.
Michael Smyken
Really?
Charlie Sheen
Yeah. Well, I didn't use a ghostwriter.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Wow.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah. I thought that would be completely inauthentic. And I felt like then it's not. Then you haven't written your book. You've just told the stories to someone you've known for an hour.
Michael Smyken
And I wouldn't have. I don't have the language for it. Maybe you do, but there's A tone and a mechanism of delivery of the book I've never seen before.
Charlie Sheen
Oh, thank you.
Michael Smyken
Yeah. For. Is there. Do you have a phraseology for.
Charlie Sheen
I don't, I, I don't know.
Michael Smyken
I like, it was sheen. Like, how's that?
Charlie Sheen
Yeah, yeah. I had to. I just tried to sheen it up, but I, I, I wanted to write how I think, and then I wanted to write in a rhythm that I like to read. Selfishly, I wanted to just have the audience, have the reader feel like they fell into something welcoming, comfortable. And I also wanted them to feel. And again, I'm not trying to tell you how to feel with the book. I said that about a half an hour ago. But just to create this vibe that you've not just opened a book, but you've stepped inside of a movie.
Michael Smyken
Yeah. You know, and it lands that way. Again, I'm pretty strong with language and description, but it really is a unique way. Thank you. Of seeing inside of your heart, your mind, your being. Thank you for describing it. Truly is.
Charlie Sheen
And there's some words that I couldn't, I couldn't find the existing words for things I needed to describe a certain way. So I just made some up, you know? But people read it and they say, well, yeah, of course. That needs to be a word. I'm like, well, it kind of is.
Michael Smyken
Now, what level? If you believe and know this man is an absolute genius, say yes.
Charlie Sheen
Oh, shucks, Come on now.
Michael Smyken
Thank you. And I don't say we do. I say what I do not mean yes. We do not. Like, that's a big part of our space. We don't just ingratiate, but we acknowledge mastery.
Charlie Sheen
Sure.
Michael Smyken
James Prudian, are you here? Okay, so James, his mom's in hospital, and we're going to give him the one question we're going to have for you, please, from the audience. That's okay.
Charlie Sheen
Of course.
Michael Smyken
I've known James for decades. Chiropractor in Jersey. Amazing Man's mom is really fighting for her life. She is an amazing, insane fan. So it's the fact that James is asking you a question. So, James, what would your question.
Charlie Sheen
Hey, James, how are you?
Michael Smyken
Charlie Sheen, as she, like, when I call her her.
Audience Member / James / Gary
A picture of the event.
Michael Smyken
Let's get a mic for James.
Audience Member / James / Gary
I, I showed her a picture of the event, and I always point to my friend Sean, who I've known for almost 30 years.
Charlie Sheen
Right.
Audience Member / James / Gary
She goes, that's Charlie Shane. And I said, yeah. She goes, you tell him she is cancer. Her eyes. You tell him I've Seen every one of his shows. Not once, twice.
Charlie Sheen
Wow. And wow.
Audience Member / James / Gary
My name is Gary, and I've been a huge fan of your movies. And my question is for. For those of us who grew up undersized, shorter, bullied. Thank you. For Lucas.
Charlie Sheen
Oh, right on.
Audience Member / James / Gary
I mean, Rudy gets all the credit, but that was just an amazing movie.
Charlie Sheen
Oh, right on. Thank you.
Audience Member / James / Gary
And the other thing that I just can't. Many people don't know is the first time I remember seeing you in a movie that was so impactful was sort of a cameo at the end of Ferris Bu's day off. Most people don't know you were in there. And I just got to tell you, you are awesome.
Charlie Sheen
Oh, thank you. Thank you, thank you.
Audience Member / James / Gary
But thank you so much. My mother, Mary, says hello.
Charlie Sheen
Oh, okay. Well, will you send a message back to Mary?
Audience Member / James / Gary
She wants a picture of me and you together, if that's okay.
Michael Smyken
Well, we're going to get that in the room.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Yeah.
Michael Smyken
I mean, that's.
Charlie Sheen
That's easy. Okay.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Easy.
Michael Smyken
Woman.
Charlie Sheen
Yeah.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Is.
Charlie Sheen
Is. Is. Is she gonna. Is she gonna recover? Is she gonna make it? Is she gonna.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Or most like.
Charlie Sheen
Or do we still not know?
Audience Member / James / Gary
Most likely before Christmas.
Charlie Sheen
I'm sorry.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Yeah, yeah.
Charlie Sheen
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Audience Member / James / Gary
My best friend.
Charlie Sheen
I'm sorry. All.
Audience Member / James / Gary
She's at a good place at home right now.
Charlie Sheen
Okay.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Not in the hospital.
Charlie Sheen
All right, well, there you go.
Michael Smyken
Let's go.
Charlie Sheen
There you go. How about that?
Audience Member / James / Gary
And she. And she made that point when you said it. You choked me up because that's what she said to the oncologist. I'm going home. Get me out of here. All 95 pounds of her.
Michael Smyken
Wow.
Audience Member / James / Gary
4 foot 10 Armenian woman and an amazing human that.
Charlie Sheen
Wow. Okay. This is. This is really powerful.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Yeah.
Charlie Sheen
Can she. I mean, can she. Do you call her? Does she get on the phone?
Audience Member / James / Gary
Oh, yeah.
Charlie Sheen
Okay, then let's you and I get on the phone with her.
Michael Smyken
Am I right?
Charlie Sheen
Okay. Absolutely. All right, so we'll. So we'll do that.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Thank you.
Charlie Sheen
We'll do that. Done.
Michael Smyken
Thank you.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Done.
Charlie Sheen
It's the least I could do.
Audience Member / James / Gary
Thank you so much.
Charlie Sheen
My pleasure.
Michael Smyken
And that's the power of identity and the heart of a man, like troubleshooting. Thank you, Charlie. So I know that you have people to see, places to go, and I know we have a moment for our certification partner and elite that are going to have the privilege of seeing you for a moment in a little bit. And if I could ask this as just a final question for this is a room full of people that want to see their life grow. And they want to be involved in projects that matter for the rest of their life, and they want to feel that sense of purpose and fulfillment that we all want to feel. And what would you have as a message for them? And absolutely, in whatever way, troubleshooting, want to deliver it that they could take away that would make their life a little better. Maybe it's access to humor, maybe it's having the special potion you have in your pocket for the end, but whatever it would be as a message from you to them in a. What we call a final. Final from Charlie Sheen.
Charlie Sheen
I. I mean, yeah. Something I really wish that I. I had tapped into a lot sooner. And I do. Actually, I think I mentioned this in the book. If is just this idea of. And it's. This is something you re. You have to consciously, like, lean into is try not to take things so personally. I'm telling you, that may not mean anything right now, but if you start to look back on a lot of situations that didn't turn out or didn't, you just were not. Didn't bring the result that you wanted or however that manifests. It's. It's. It's. That is like, I don't. I don't believe in regrets, but I do believe in learning from, you know, a lot of the stuff we wish we could do over. And. And that's just, you know, just looking back on things. It's the one question I asked myself, why did I take everything so freaking personally? And. And so I think there's value in that. And I. And I think there's freedom in that. That. That. That's just the nugget that feels germane to today.
Michael Smyken
Amen. And if you think there's massive value in that for you, let's hear it. Mr. Charlie Sheen, it has been an honor and a privilege. I could not thank you enough for taking the trip here. I thank Darren Prince. Warhawk. Thank you. God bless you.
Charlie Sheen
Thank you all very much.
Michael Smyken
May it all happen. If, you know, you've been in the presence of a master. On your feet one more time, let's hear. Thank you. Thank you.
Charlie Sheen
Thank you.
Date: November 25, 2025
Guest: Charlie Sheen
Host: Sean Callagy (with Michael Smyken moderating much of the discussion)
In this candid and dynamic episode, Charlie Sheen joins “Unblinded” for a raw, often humorous, and deeply reflective conversation about his iconic career, turbulent public moments, family legacy, and the lessons he’s learned about fame, failure, and finding meaning. Speaking with Sean Callagy’s team in front of a live audience, Sheen shares behind-the-scenes stories from his childhood and Hollywood, opens up about seeking redemption, and discusses the importance of influence, honesty, humor, and self-examination. The episode offers rarely heard insights into Sheen’s personal philosophy, balancing lightness with gravity, and closes with wisdom for those seeking fulfillment and purpose.
Growing Up on Film Sets
Hollywood Odds & Family Destiny
Why a Documentary and Book Now?
“There’s still, you know, there’s a lot of people that may only remember me as the guy, you know, in a fricking bowling shirt or screaming, ‘winning’… It’s important for me that… with this amount of exposure and all of it positive… people just get a sense that the guy is not insane. He kind of… wandered off the res for about three or four months. That was highly publicized. And that’s all on me.”
(10:35)
Media Overexposure & the ‘Covenant’ with Audiences
“I think people felt they were curious as hell, but I think they were also… concerned for my health, but they also felt… almost let down. Like I had broken some covenant or something that we had spent years developing.”
(14:27)
“I think they applaud the fact that I’ve maintained a level of honesty that has been a through line… If things went sideways, I was always the guy that owned it.” (21:36)
“If I blame people, then I’m presenting myself as a victim, and there are no victims in my book.” (23:42)
On Self-Love
“I’m not the best person to rely on for accessing that… I do take credit for the accomplishments and… the perseverance… but I don’t ever really think about, ‘I’m a good guy.’ … Based on the response of others, I'd like to think that, that there is a goodness that shines through.” (24:18)
Valuing Time & Legacy
He stresses the importance of time, especially to his children:
“I tell my sons… we’re not going to have as much time to say goodbye as you’re going to wish that we did. I know that sounds grim… But I just want them to feel the value of time.” (29:12)
On end-of-life:
“I’m not dying in a hospital. I don’t care what’s going on health wise. I’d be on… tropical waters... I'd go somewhere beautiful with people I cared about... and just confronted on my terms.” (29:54 and 30:57)
“I don’t have to seek fun. There’s fun in everything that I do just by doing it.” (36:05)
“I’m reading material that’s at a level I haven’t had access to in forever… People are excited about me returning to something dramatic, something intense… I’ve never played a detective… and those are the shows that I really lean into.” (38:29)
On Hollywood Oddities:
“If you think about the odds… The son of the guy a decade later does his own Vietnam saga and narrates it… What would you place the odds? Yeah, I like the age of the universe squared.” —Charlie Sheen (06:55)
On Public Perception and Redemption:
“It’s important for me with this amount of exposure and all of it positive… that people just get a sense that the guy is not insane. He kind of… wandered off the res for about three or four months. That was highly publicized. All on me.” —Charlie Sheen (10:35)
On Fame’s Double-Edged Sword:
“I think people felt… almost let down. Like I had broken some covenant or something that we had spent years developing.” —Charlie Sheen (14:27)
On Owning His Story:
“If I blame people, then I’m presenting myself as a victim, and there are no victims in my book.” —Charlie Sheen (23:42)
On Self-Love:
“If I’m doing things that I know are really healthy or positive or just… that I’m tapped into a frequency that I thrive inside of… I view that as a form of self love.” —Charlie Sheen (25:44)
On His Future:
“I like to say, I haven’t made [my favorite movie] yet.” —Charlie Sheen (42:03)
On Humor’s Role:
“There’s a lot of dialogue that is sort of the soundtrack to everything that I do… Even if it’s just me in an internal, private, secret monologue walking around. Some jokes work, some of them suck. That is fun for me.” —Charlie Sheen (36:05)
On Life’s Biggest Lesson (Final Message):
“Try not to take things so personally. I’m telling you, that may not mean anything right now, but if you start to look back on a lot of situations that didn’t turn out… that is like—I don’t believe in regrets, but I do believe in learning… That’s just the nugget that feels germane to today.” —Charlie Sheen (49:19)
For listeners seeking actionable wisdom on influence, fulfillment, and resilience, this episode exemplifies humility, candor, and the redemptive power of laughter and truth.