Tools for the Family Jewels: Gender Bending Brands

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Tools for the Family Jewels: Gender Bending Brands

Podcast: Under the Influence with Terry O’Reilly
Host: Terry O’Reilly (Apostrophe Podcast Network)
Episode Date: September 20, 2025

Overview

In this episode, Terry O’Reilly explores how long-standing gender boundaries in branding and advertising are shifting. The episode highlights iconic examples—ranging from men using cosmetics and women drinking scotch, to the rise of genderless lingerie and men’s intimate grooming products—to illustrate how marketers are upending old norms and tapping into new markets. Blending humor, pop culture references, and stories from advertising and business, O’Reilly shows that gender assumptions in marketing are being “pinned to the mat,” often with surprising results.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Breaking into Gendered Spaces (03:10–08:49)

• Rusty Kanokogi’s Judo Story
  • Details: Rena “Rusty” Glickman (later Kanokogi) broke barriers in the male-dominated world of judo, fighting her way into tournaments by disguising herself as a man and later advocating for women’s inclusion in the sport.
  • Insight: Her struggle illustrates the persistence needed to overcome gendered gatekeeping and parallels the struggle brands face in crossing gender lines.
  • Quote:

    “After years of struggle, the world finally saw firsthand that judo wasn’t just for men.” (07:48)

2. The Sea Change in Gendered Marketing (09:04–16:43)

• Brands Targeting New Genders
  • Marlboro Cigarettes:
    • Originally a women’s cigarette (“Mild as May” with lipstick-hiding red tips), Marlboro’s shift to rugged cowboy masculinity led to a 3,200% sales surge.
    • Quote:

      “It is without a doubt the advertising industry's darkest success.” (12:13)

  • Cosmetics Moving to Men:
    • L'Oréal’s “Men Expert” line, male beauty influencers, and evolved slogans (“Because we’re all worth it.”)
    • Notable stat: One third of men are open to using cosmetics.
    • Presidential Makeup: French presidents and Donald Trump are cited as prominent users.
    • Research: Male cosmetics can enhance perceptions of trustworthiness and competence in leaders (psych research).
    • Quote:

      “Research revealed that smokers are more attracted to the image of a brand than the actual qualities of the product itself.” (10:28)

3. Women Invited into “Men’s” Categories (18:02–25:05)

• Whiskey & Scotch
  • Changing Demographics: Up to 39% of Canadian whiskey drinkers are now women.
  • Brand Strategies:
    • Glenlivet hires actress Anna Paquin for a campaign mixing scotch with fruit and soda, breaking purist rules to broaden appeal.
      • Memorable Moment:

        Anna Paquin: “They’ll tell you a single malt Scotch should always be drunk straight. But you know what? I don’t do straight.” (19:22)

    • Balvenie features both women and men in its “Quest for Craft” series, focusing on respect, not tokenism.
  • Failed Attempt: Johnnie Walker’s “Jane Walker” edition to mark Women’s Day was seen as pandering and unnecessary.
    • Insight: Brands shouldn’t create “pink” (or feminine) editions—authentic inclusion works better.
    • Quote:

      “Maybe the lesson here is, to attract women to what is traditionally a male-centric product, a brand doesn’t need to create a special women’s edition.” (22:40)

4. Genderless Lingerie & Blurring Boundaries (23:40–25:05)

• Trends: Unisex and non-binary products, such as mesh bodysuits and bralettes marketed without gender labels.
• Major Companies: Small disruptors (Tomboy X, Lucky Skivvies) and large brands (Calvin Klein) moving to genderless lines.
• Insight: This democratization of intimate apparel is seen as a way for all to feel confident, no matter their gender.
• Quote:

  “Feeling better under your clothes can help you feel better and more confident. Externally, you feel authentic—top and bottom.” (24:26)

5. Tools for the “Family Jewels”: Male Grooming Goes Mainstream (26:54–29:42)

• Manscaped Case Study:
  • Gap in Market: Previously, men had few intimate personal care options.
  • Original Tone: Serious safety/hygiene messaging failed to engage men.
  • Breakthrough: Humor and clever branding (“Precision tools for the family jewels”—product names like “The Lawn Mower” and “The Weed Whacker”) dismantled taboos and encouraged conversation.
  • Quote (slogan):

    “When you trim the hedges, the tree stands taller.” (28:23)

  • Impact: Website traffic soared, conversation exploded, men responded positively.
    • Over 5 million users; projected $500 million sales in 2024.

6. Lessons and Takeaways (29:42–32:40)

• Key Criteria for Gender-Bending Success:
  • Authentic inclusion (not “pinkwashing” or token versions).
  • Masculine branding is often needed to bring men into formerly feminine spaces (like cosmetics).
  • Humor effectively breaks taboos, as seen with Manscaped.
  • Perception is everything—products live in the mind as much as in reality.
• Quote:

  “Sometimes you have to make them laugh, and sometimes you have to Rusty Kanokogi them into submission.” (31:54)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Brand Perceptions:

  "A brand resided as an idea in people's minds, not their taste buds. And if it was an idea, it could be influenced." (10:15)

• On Genderless Lingerie:

  “This new era of lingerie began with the creation of lacy underwear for men and silky boxer shorts for women. Then it evolved.” (23:54)

• On Humor in Men’s Grooming:

  “Humor was the sledgehammer that broke down the wall. It took a taboo and made it conversational.” (28:16)

• On Ad Industry Ironies:

  “As the Marlboro Man taught us, it all comes down to perception.” (32:27)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:10—Rusty Glickman/Kanakogi’s judo story
• 09:04—Gender-bending brands: Marlboro, L’Oreal
• 12:40—Male politicians and makeup, cosmetic industry research
• 18:02—Women and whiskey: Glenlivet, Balvenie, Jane Walker
• 23:40—Genderless lingerie revolution
• 26:54—Manscaped and humor in men’s intimate grooming
• 29:42—Summary takeaways and lessons
• 31:54—Closing reflections

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Final Thoughts

Terry O’Reilly’s lively delivery and storytelling wit unravel both the history and current landscape of gender in branding. The episode reveals that gendered marketing is rapidly evolving: men are being welcomed into “feminine” categories (with humor and masculine branding), women are simply being included as equals in legacy “male” categories, and some brands are removing gender altogether. The undercurrent is clear—authenticity, smart observation, and sometimes a big laugh, can break decades-old barriers in both sports and stores.

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Transcript

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Rena Glickman was born in Brooklyn in 1935. She had a rough upbringing. Rena, nicknamed Rusty because of her flaming red hair, learned to fight on the streets and led a gang that fought other girl gangs in her neighborhood. Then something happened in 1955, a friend showed her a martial art. He could effortlessly pick her up on his hip and flip her onto the ground with full control. He showed her other techniques of this mysterious martial art. It felt like magic to Rusty because strength and size didn't matter. A smaller person could defeat a larger person just by using skill. It was then that she fell in love with JUDO. Back in 1955, there weren't martial arts schools on every corner. They were few and far between. But there was a judo class at the local YMCA. So 20 year old Rusty asked the instructor if she could join. He said no. Judo was just for men. But Rusty kept showing up and showing up. Finally, the instructor just couldn't say no one more time. So he let Rusty in. She was the only woman training with 40 men. She took her falls and her bruises, but she learned and eventually earned her black belt. But her defining moment would come in 1959. Because judo was dominated by men, there were no judo tournaments for women. So one day Rusty taped her chest, cut her hair short, and at 59200 pounds, she entered a tournament disguised as as a man. She beat all the top judo contenders and made it to the finals. There she slammed her opponent to the mat and won the gold medal. It was an incredible moment for Rusty Glickman. She had competed and won in a male dominated sport. But she wouldn't hold that medal for long. Somehow the officials discovered she was a woman and she was forced to give back the medals she had earned then and there. Rusty vowed to become a powerful change agent in the world of judo. Rusty wanted to learn everything she could about judo. So she traveled to Japan, hoping to train at the renowned school started by the founder of judo. In those days, women trained in a separate space and weren't allowed to practice full contact judo. But Rusty wanted to train with the men and she was unstoppable. Her instructors finally relented and Rusty became the first woman allowed into the men's section of the legendary dojo where she trained with the best judokas in Japan and eventually married one of the black belts she met there. When Rusty Glickman, now Rusty Kanakogi, came back to New York, she opened up her own judo school for the next 30 years. For 30 years, Rusty fought for women's equality in judo. Her big dream was to have women's judo in the Olympic Games. Men's judo had been allowed since 1964. One of the prerequisites of the Olympic committee was that a new sport had to have a world championship. So in 1980 Rusty Kanakogi ran up $25,000 on her own credit card to stage the first women's world judo championships in Madison Square Garden. She sold tickets, found sponsors, and did everything she could to make it happen. The event attracted competitors from all over the world. Then Rusty challenged the judo bureaucracy, started petitions, and even threatened the International Olympic Committee with legal action if it refused to recognize women's judo. Eight years later, her persistence paid off. Women's judo was included as an exhibition sport at the 1988 Olympics in Seoul. Then in 1992, women's judo was finally included as an official Olympic event. The American women's judo team couldn't be prouder. Walking into the stadium that day, their coach walked behind them. Her name was Rusty Kanakogi. After years of struggle, the world finally saw firsthand that judo wasn't just for men. There are a lot of products in the world that are just for men, and a lot of products are made just for women. But all of that is being upended in the world of marketing. Men are using makeup, women are drinking scotch, and genderless lingerie is on the shelves. It's taken a long time, but those long held stereotypes are being pinned to the mat.

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[Terry O'Reilly]

There is a sea change happening in the world of marketing right now. Brands that have only aimed at one gender for decades are now targeting another gender for the very first time. Probably the most famous story of gender bending came courtesy of Marlboro cigarettes. Created back in 1924, Marlboro was a woman's cigarette. Hard to imagine, but it's true. The slogan was Marlboro mild as May. As a matter of fact, the cigarette was so feminine in its design, it even featured red filter tips to hide lipstick smears. But in the 1950s, Marlboro's market share was steadily declining. As a last ditch effort, manufacturer Philip Morris asked its advertising agency if Marlboro could be repositioned to become a man's cigarette. It was a huge gamble. The brand had been heavily advertised to women for over 30 years. Research revealed that smokers are more attracted to the image of a brand than the actual qualities of the product itself. In other words, a brand resided as an idea in people's minds, not their taste buds. And if it was an idea, it could be influenced. That is how the Marlboro man advertising campaign was born. The image of a rugged cowboy smoking a Marlboro was put into a test market in New York state to see if it could attract men. After just one month, Marlboro became the number one male cigarette brand in greater New York. One year later, national sales increased 3,200% from that day forward. Marlboro Cigarettes has been cited as the case study for switching genders because they took a completely feminine product and changed it not just to become a male product, but the very symbol of masculinity. Come to where the flavor is. Come to Marlboro Country. It is without a doubt the advertising industry's darkest success. Marlboro's gender switch was a unicorn for decades. But the times they are a changin' take. Cosmetics L' Oreal is the world's largest cosmetic company. Since 1909, L' Oreal has marketed over 500 products exclusively to women. But a few years ago, L' Oreal began marketing beauty products to men with its Men Expert line. The company said it knew that more and more men were using makeup and it wanted to acknowledge that change. To do it, l' Oreal took the long standing slogan it had established in 1971 so if I use L' Oreal, it's because I'm worth it. And changed it to say because we're all worth it. Then, for the first time in its 113 year history, L' Oreal featured a man in their mass market cosmetics campaign. My name's Gary. My true matte shade is 9C. I'm a beauty blogger and I'm also a makeup artist. L' Oreal Pay Gal says male cosmetics have seen a surge in demand. Some reports say it has been growing faster than women's sales since 2020. And it's not just skin care and body wash. Men are using beauty balm and color corrector creams, mascara, foundation bronzers and concealers. A recent IPSO study found that roughly one third of all men are open to using cosmetics. And there's an interesting split. While men over 50 are more hung up on gender roles, they also want anti aging cosmetics. So this age group opts for male branded products and they buy mostly online. The 1834s are not worried about aging and are focused on looking good. They are more at ease with the evolution of masculinity and have no problem shopping for cosmetics in person. In the 2019 Super Bowl, L' Oreal signed singer Adam Levine to be its spokesperson for its line of male anti fatigue moisturizers. We can't promise you as many fans as Adam Levine, just high energy for your skin. New Hydra Energetic by l' Oreal menexpert. The anti fatigue moisturizer with energizing guarana points the five signs of fatigue for energized skin till the end of the day. Newer cosmetics brands like MMUK and Milk Makeup cater to a male audience. Both want to break down the stigma of men wearing makeup. The worldwide market for men's beauty products is around $32 billion. It's expected to double by 2030 less. You think it's just Gen Z's and a few 50 year olds in the makeup aisle? Take a look at the leaders of the free world and we're not talking about the touch ups done before a TV interview that's free. We're talking about the cosmetics they buy themselves. French President Emmanuel Macron spent over $30,000 on makeup in the first three months of his presidency, but that's less than his predecessors spent. President Francois Hollande spent $41,000 per quarter on makeup. In a Washington Post interview with ex House staff employed by Donald Trump, the president's habits and routines were listed he only uses Irish Spring soap. He requires two boxes of Tic Tacs in his room at all times and two containers of a brand called Bronx Colors Face Makeup. Bronx Colors is a Swiss company, and a spokesperson there believes Trump specifically uses its boosting Hydrating concealer in orange. Can makeup affect voters decisions? The Department of Psychology at New York University says male cosmetics can positively affect perceptions of a person's trustworthiness, competence and likability. It's pretty safe to conclude that makeup sales to male politicians will continue to surge if men can be convinced to use makeup. Can women be convinced to drink single malt Scotch? God help us, but Canada has never been more interesting. What is happening now is urgent and important and you need to stay on top of it. Every day on Canadaland we bring you the information you need about Canadian politics and Canadian media through smart conversations and original investigations. This is Canada like you've never heard it before. Listen to Canadaland wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Terry O'Reilly]

Ever since the day whiskey was first poured into a glass, it has been considered a man's drink. But like cosmetics, that notion is rapidly shifting. In the U.S. 30% of whiskey drinkers are female. In Canada, it's 39%. That number has doubled since 1990. There are several reasons for that. To begin with, there are more women in leadership roles at distilleries. Second, whiskey makers know that in some markets, women are adopting whiskey at four times the rate of men. Third, distillers are dropping the old Boys Club image from their marketing. Case in point, Glenlivet's Single Malt Scotch launched a provocative new campaign recently. It featured Academy Award winner Anna Paquin as its spokesperson. The slogan Obey the rules. Miss the fun.

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[Terry O'Reilly]

A drink reserved strictly for men.

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But whiskey doesn't care what's between your legs.

[Terry O'Reilly]

Throughout the ad, Paquin mixes her scotch with soda and squeezes fresh fruit into her glass, a deliberate move to make whiskey purists squirm. They'll tell you a single malt Scotch.

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Should always be drunk straight. But you know what? I don't do straight. Obey the rules.

[Terry O'Reilly]

Glen Livitt is on a mission to disrupt the whiskey drinker stereotype, and the brand is even going Further Research showed that whiskey ads overwhelmingly feature men by 228%. So Glenlivet is infiltrating search engine algorithms and is purposely planting images of diverse whiskey drinkers. The company is bent on changing the conversation. Speaking of conversations, there is a series on YouTube sponsored by Balvenie Scotch titled Quest for Craft. The videos are hosted by Questlove, where he has conversations with a wide array of successful male and female artists. While they drink single malt Scotch, they discuss what makes them excel at their craft. When you put your heart and soul into creating something, you don't want it to be good, you want it to be great. What does it take to get there? I'm Questlove and this is Quest for Craft, my collaboration with the Belvini A deep dive into the obsessive, never ending whatever it takes journey to create something extraordinary. The inclusion of women in this series is not a pandering opportunity. Grab these are successful women. There's a lot of respect in the room. Meanwhile, Johnnie Walker Scotch tried a different strategy with women. It didn't go down so smooth. Johnnie Walker is considered the world's number one Scotch whiskey. For over 20 years, it has aired an advertising campaign titled Keep Walking, with the message being that every epic journey begins with a single step. Back in 2018, Johnnie Walker unveiled a new limited edition Scotch called Jane Walker. It was the first female iteration of the famous Johnnie Walker Striding man logo. Instead of a man with a top hat and cane, it was a woman. The whiskey maker said many women are intimidated by Scotch and Jane Walker was an invitation to try the single malt whiskey. It was launched to coincide with International Women's Day and International Women's Month, and for every bottle sold, $1 was to be donated to organizations celebrating women's causes. But Jane Walker Scotch didn't sit well with a lot of women. Many women didn't see Jane Walker as a symbol of gender equality. They didn't need a special female version of the whiskey, nor were they intimidated by Scotch. After all, over 30% of scotch drinkers are female. Others felt the timing of the launch coinciding with International Women's Day was simply a marketing strategy to increase sales. Maybe the lesson here is to attract women to what is traditionally a male centric product. A brand doesn't need to create a special women's edition. Neither Glenlivet nor Balvenie did that. They just opened their aperture to include women in the conversation naturally and without a lot of fanfare. And they gain credibility based on their actions. When a product goes pink, either literally or metaphorically, it doesn't work. If every epic journey starts with a single step, this particular journey started with a misstep. While the world of Scotch was historically a male bastion, lingerie was strictly female. While you can definitely argue that lingerie really is designed for men, men didn't wear lingerie until now. There are many companies out there that offer genderless lingerie. Think mesh bodysuits, corsets, bralettes, and lacy thongs for women and men. Traditionally, when you talked about unisex clothing, it meant marketing men's clothes to women. But genderless lingerie is different. It's about erasing boundaries. Fashion companies like Tomboy X Menagerie, Intimates and Lucky Skivvies are now creating non binary lingerie. The goal? To democratize underwear. This new era of lingerie began with the creation of lacy underwear for men and silky boxer shorts for women. Then it evolved. New disruptive companies began creating underwear without distinguishing gender. The underwear was just marketed as underwear. These new companies believe that sexy, revealing intimates for the bedroom can be worn by anyone. And now big brands like Calvin Klein are offering genderless underwear in their collections. As one non binary lingerie designer said, feeling better under your clothes can help you feel better and more confident. Externally, you feel authentic top and bottom. Don't go away. We'll be right back.

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For decades, women have been offered endless personal care items to take care of their bodies from head to toenails. Men, on the other hand, had female options with one particularly glaring omission. There were virtually no personal care items for men's private parts. Some companies dabbled in that direction, but none were dedicated to male grooming south of the border. That left a gap in the market. But was there a market in the gap? Enter a company called Manscaped. It aimed to fill the market ignored by the big brands like Proctor and Gamble and Unilever Manscaped offered a full line of personal grooming items for men, including electric razors for shaving body hair, intimate deodorants, and anti chafing creams. The kind of products that don't naturally lend themselves to television marketing. So the company stuck to YouTube and social media. When Manscaped began in 2016, the initial marketing was serious and focused on hygiene and safety. It turns out men were trying to groom themselves but didn't have the right tools. They were using electric head trimmers around the south pole, and over 25% of those men experienced pubic grooming injuries. As a matter of fact, emergency room worthy injuries increased fivefold. But in spite of that, Manscaped's serious marketing tone wasn't working. Men simply didn't want to talk about personal care products. So the company decided to recalibrate its messaging. Instead of being serious, they decided to use humor. They rechristened their line precision tools for the family jewels. They renamed their razors the lawn mower and the weed whacker. Their anti chafing moisturizer became the crop preserver. The deodorant became ball toner. Their new slogan was when you trim the hedges, the tree stands taller. It was an epiphany. Humor was the sledgehammer that broke down the wall. It took a taboo and made it conversational. Suddenly, men were eager to communicate with manscaped. The company's website. Traffic exploded, men sent messages on Facebook, and humor gave Manscaped its voice. No one wants a pair of hairy kiwis.

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But there's just not a great tool for trimming them up until now. Iman here with Manscaped trademark, introducing the all new Lawn Mower Trademark 4.0. It is the perfect tool for the job. Now this trimmer has skinsafe technology which helps reduce the risk of nicks and cuts. Just look at these amazing results. He shaves two kiwis, an eggplant, a cucumber, and two hairy coconuts. Plus, it's waterproof so you can groom your grass in the shower. While the primary audience for Mansfield manscape skewed, 18 to 34 men in their 40s and 50s began to trim their shrubbery. Manscaped took a grooming category that was locked onto women and now dominates it for men. Over 5 million gentlemen worldwide now use Manscaped products. Last year, manscaped generated over $100 million in sales. It expects to reach up to $500 million by 2024. And they did it all by reaching down. When Change rocks the marketing world. It comes in different packages. Sometimes the change needs to be done without fanfare. As smart whiskey makers discovered, simply invite women into the room and serve them the same scotch you serve men. Interesting to note that as a rule, women don't like when products go pink. Yet men often need separate masculine packaging to attract them to a traditionally female category, as the cosmetics industry discovered. Then, in other categories, big change demands disruptors. Manscape kicked its way into a strictly women's category by making men laugh. By using humor, it invited men to have a conversation about something they never wanted to talk about and helped save quite a few nicks on their eggplants. And then there's lingerie. Fashion companies are now designing genderless intimates to be worn by women and men, and anyone who doesn't identify with either. As the Marlboro man taught us, it all comes down to perception. Sometimes you have to make them laugh, and sometimes you have to rusty Kanakogi them into submission when you're under the influence I'm Terry O'Reilly. This episode was recorded recorded in the Terrastream Mobile recording studio. Producer Debbie O'Reilly sound engineer Jeff Devine Research Allison Pinches under the Influence Theme by Ari Posner and Ian Lefever Music in this episode provided by APM Music. Follow me on social errioinfluence if you're enjoying this episode, you might also like How Marketing Created Ritual Season 5, Episode 1. You'll find it in our archives. You can now listen to our podcasts on the Apostrophe YouTube channel. See you next week. Fun fact When Old Spice was first launched back in 1937, it was a woman's product. Womanly, yes, but I like it too. Dude, did you order the new iPhone 17 Pro? Got it from Verizon, the best 5G network in America. I've never looked so good. You look the same. But with this camera, everything looks better. Especially me. You haven't changed your hair in 15 years. Selfies check please.

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