Touch The Pickle: Marketing Gender Equality

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Under the Influence with Terry O'Reilly
Episode: Touch The Pickle: Marketing Gender Equality
Date: October 4, 2025
Host: Terry O’Reilly (Apostrophe Podcast Network)

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, Terry O’Reilly explores how recent marketing and advertising campaigns have gone beyond traditional messaging to drive tangible gender equality and societal change worldwide. From floating islands in Honduras, to correcting sexist algorithms, to dismantling taboos about menstruation in India, Terry details the innovative—and often audacious—ways agencies have spurred women’s empowerment. The episode is rich with storytelling, data, and memorable moments that expose both old injustices and new creative solutions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Overlooked Story of Jackie Mitchell

[03:15]

• Terry starts with the story of Jackie Mitchell, a 17-year-old woman who struck out Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig in a 1931 exhibition baseball game.
  • Despite her extraordinary achievement, she was quickly sidelined:

    "Jackie Mitchell beat Ruth and Gehrig, but she didn't actually win because she didn’t get to keep her contract.” (03:15)

• The story illustrates how women’s achievements are often erased or minimized—a theme echoed throughout the episode.

2. The Glass Lion Award & Smashing the Ceiling

[09:01]

• Terry explains the Cannes Lions Festival’s Glass Lion award, reserved for campaigns that create real, tangible impact on gender inequality, noting:

  "...work that not only calls attention to gender inequality, but ... actually makes a tangible difference." (09:34)

• He introduces several award-winning, culture-shifting campaigns.

3. Bold Change in Honduras: “Morning After Island”

[10:21]

• In Honduras, emergency contraception is outlawed, and misinformation is rampant.
• Lacking resources and institutional support, activists and Ogilvy created a literal floating platform in international waters—Morning After Island—where women could legally access the pill.
  • The effort generated enormous global attention:
    • 2 million petition signatures
    • $30 million in free media
    • 180 million video views (12:55)
  • Most importantly, it pressured the government, resulting in:

    “The President formed a new Ministry of Women's Rights to collaborate on a legislative proposal defending women’s sexual, reproductive, and civil rights.” (14:06)

• The campaign demonstrates advertising’s power to facilitate both immediate aid and lasting policy influence.

4. Correcting Gender Bias in the Internet’s Algorithms

[17:37]

• Terry discusses a moment at Wimbledon where Andy Murray corrected a reporter who overlooked women’s achievements—an example of how even “the internet” overlooks women.
• DDB New Zealand's CorrectTheInternet.com campaign targets search engine errors that elevate male achievements over superior female records.
  • Example errors include sports:
    • “Which player has won the most Wimbledon singles titles?"

      "The Internet says Roger Federer with eight. The statistics say it's Martina Navratilova with nine.” (19:54)

  • The campaign allows users to quickly report gendered inaccuracies via correcttheinternet.com.
  • The internet’s algorithms reflect human bias, but Terry urges active correction:

    “The Internet has learned our human bias towards men. It’s a problem we all created. But by using correcttheinternet.com, it’s a problem we have the power to fix.” (21:40)

5. Data Tienda – Recognizing Women's Informal Credit in Mexico

[23:32]

• In Mexico, millions of low-income women are barred from entrepreneurship due to lack of credit history (83% have none).
• We Capital and their agency used a unique approach: leveraging unrecognized credit logs from local shopkeepers (Data Tienda = "Data Shop") to formalize women’s credit.
  • Women submit shopkeeper records on the Data Tienda site.
  • Result:
    • 10,000+ registrations
    • 2,300+ microloans granted to women entrepreneurs
  • Insight:

    “At first glance, it appeared women had no credit histories, but that wasn’t the actual problem. … They just weren’t being recognized by major lending institutions. Women were invisible to the banking industry.” (25:43)

6. Busting Menstruation Taboos in India: ”Touch The Pickle”

[26:27]

• In India, menstruation-related taboos restrict girls from normal activities—including a particularly odd one: not touching pickles, which are believed to spoil on contact.
• Whisper (P&G) and advertising agency BBDO launched the “Touch the Pickle” campaign, using the pickle taboo as a metaphor to break larger menstrual and gender taboos.
  • The campaign included a viral video where a young woman defies the pickle taboo, inspiring others to pledge to "touch the pickle."
  • Notable campaign results:
    • 2.9 million pledges to “touch the pickle”
    • $6.1 million in earned media
    • Massive jump in brand awareness (from 21% to 90%)
    • Bollywood celebrities joined the conversation
  • Emphasizing the campaign’s empowering effect:

    “With the hashtag #touchthepickle, Whisper invited anthropologists, comedians, and the media to make taboo a topic of public debate.” (28:34)

7. Why These Campaigns Matter

[31:55]

• Terry closes by reiterating how invisibility—historically and algorithmically—suppresses women’s achievements:

  "Women are represented in only 0.5% of recorded history, proving they are all too easily erased and their accomplishments all too easily forgotten." (31:55)

• These campaigns are more than ads—each corrected a real-world injustice and contributed directly to women’s empowerment, visibility, and opportunity.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Jackie Mitchell beat Ruth and Gehrig, but she didn’t actually win because she didn’t get to keep her contract.” (03:15 – Terry O’Reilly)
• “The Glass Lion is given to work…that actually makes a tangible difference.” (09:34 – Terry O’Reilly)
• “If denied rights on land, they took to the sea.” (13:56 – On Morning After Island)
• “The Internet has learned our human bias. … It’s a problem we all created. But… it’s a problem we have the power to fix.” (21:40 – Terry O’Reilly)
• “At first glance, it appeared women had no credit histories, but that wasn’t the actual problem. … They just weren’t being recognized.” (25:43 – Terry O’Reilly)
• “It’s amazing what you can achieve when you dare to touch the pickle.” (29:55 – Terry O’Reilly)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Jackie Mitchell’s Story: 03:15 – 08:46
• Cannes Glass Lion & Morning After Island: 09:01 – 15:40
• Correct the Internet Campaign: 17:37 – 22:35
• Data Tienda (Mexico): 23:32 – 26:27
• Touch the Pickle (India): 26:27 – 31:55
• Conclusion/Big Picture: 31:55 – 33:27

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Tone and Language

Terry O’Reilly mixes factual storytelling with wry humor and compassion, using memorable anecdotes and statistical data to highlight both the frustrating absurdities of structural bias and the creativity that can overcome it.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is a masterclass in how marketing can create real-world social change. It exposes how women’s achievements are ignored, erased, or diminished, but also showcases inventive campaigns that address these inequalities head-on—sometimes literally sailing into uncharted waters. Packed with practical examples, emotional punch, and actionable ideas, it’s both inspiring and a call to action: even a single report or conversation can help rewrite the rules for gender equality.

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Since 1851, the obits in the New York Times have been dominated by white men. But with a column called Overlooked, the Times has been adding stories of remarkable people whose deaths went unreported. One of those stories caught my eye. It was about a woman named Jackie Mitchell back in 1931. Mitchell was just 17 years old. What made her unusual was the fact she was on the roster of an all male minor league baseball team in Tennessee called the Chattanooga Lookouts. Mitchell was the only female pitcher in the league. She threw left handed and had a very deceptive sinker in her pitching repertoire. The owner of the Chattanooga Lookouts was a publicity seeker and probably felt the novelty of a female pitcher would draw fans during the depths of the Depression. The week after Mitchell's professional contract was signed, the New York Yankees were on their way back from spring training and stopped off in town for an exhibition game. 4000 Chattanooga Lookout fans were in the stands and Jackie Mitchell took to the mound in the first inning. The crowd stirred when the mighty Babe Ruth stepped up to the plate. He swung hard at the first pitch and missed. He swung even harder at the second pitch as it whistled by him. At that point, Ruth demanded that the umpire inspect the ball. He was utterly baffled by the pitcher's delivery and thought there had to be something suspicious going on. The umpire took a good long look at it, then yelled, play ball. The third pitch sailed right past Ruth and just left him standing there looking at Mitchell. When the umpire called him out, the Bambino flung his bat away in disgust. Next up was Lou Gehrig. He took what a reporter described as three hefty swings and was struck out too young. Jackie Mitchell received a standing ovation. Next inning, a pitcher replaced Mitchell and her team proceeded to lose to the mighty Yankees. 14 4. The next day the New York Times ran an article headlined Girl Pitcher Fans Ruth and Gehrig. Many wondered if the two strikeouts were real or just a stunt to draw press attention. It just seemed improbable that a 17 year old girl could strike out two of the best hitters in the game. Jackie Mitchell had learned to play baseball under the tutelage of her father and the family lived close to future hall of Famer Dazzy Vance, who was considered the premier strikeout pitcher of the 1920s. Vance taught her how to throw a drop ball, better known today as a sinker. And that day against the Yankees, she was up against batters who had never seen her before. She had a devastating sinker and being a lefty against two left handed batters gave her an advantage. The day after the infamous game, Jackie Mitchell's contract was cancelled. Many believe the baseball commissioner wanted her gone because he was embarrassed by the episode and that was nine years before the All American Girls Professional Baseball League was formed, which was immortalized in the movie A League of Their Own. Jackie Mitchell went on to pitch for a few other junior teams, but hung up her glove at the age of 23, then went to work in her father's optometry office. She died in 1987 at the age of 74. The former director of the National Women's History Museum says the problem with that infamous day was that Jackie Mitchell beat Ruth and Gehrig, but she didn't actually win because she didn't get to keep her contract. And she has been long forgotten. History and the Internet has a convenient way of overlooking female achievements. The advertising industry hasn't been particularly kind to women either. While there are a lot of women working in the ad biz, few of them were ever promoted to the top. While that is changing, some remarkable initiatives have been created by the advertising industry recently to promote gender equality. All of these ideas go well beyond mere advertising campaigns. They actually empower women, facilitate real change. And in one instance, that would make Jackie Mitchell happy. They actually correct the Internet.

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The biggest, most revered award show in the advertising business happens in Cannes, France, every June. Officially, it's called the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity. During this festival, juries presided over by senior advertising professionals evaluate over 25,000 entries across 30 categories from 87 countries. The winner in each category is awarded a prestigious trophy in the shape of a lion. The categories range from film and video to outdoor billboards to print ads to radio, which I judged back in 2005, to Design Entertainment, gaming, music and sports marketing, to name a few. But there is another interesting and meaningful category that I want to talk about today. It's called the Glass lion, and it's awarded to culture shifting creativity that positively impacts ingrained gender inequality, imbalances, or injustice. The name comes from the notion of smashing the glass ceiling. The Glass lion is given to work that not only calls attention to gender inequality, but to work that actually makes a tangible difference. In Honduras, the morning after pill was outlawed in 2009, despite the fact that it's a medication approved by the World Health Organization and was legal in every other country in Latin America. Honduras is one of the most conservative areas in the region. It is so strict on this issue, women found taking the morning after pill could be sentenced to six years in prison. Since the ban of emergency contraception pills, more than 350,000 underage Honduran girls have given birth to one out of every four Honduran girls will become pregnant before turning 18, with half of those being raped by men closest to them. Many Honduran women aren't even aware of the pill. And years of misinformation has convinced other women that taking the pill is the same as having an abortion, therefore making it taboo to even bring up, let alone discuss. For years, an organization called the Strategic Group for the Emergency Contraceptive Pill has been trying to get the ban overturned for 12 years. They made little progress. Everything was stacked against them. They had no budget for a massive marketing campaign, no support from the private sector, and zero institutionalized sexual health education. The traditional activist playbook had failed. So the women's rights advocates enlisted advertising agency Ogilvy to help develop a plan. They began by trying to have discussions with governmental and diplomatic offices, but door after door was closed off to them. That inability to get traction locally actually sparked an idea. If the organization couldn't get any attention in their own country, the solution was obvious. They had to leave their home territory. So Ogilvy and the activist group created the Morning After Island. The island was a wooden platform that floated in international waters outside Honduran jurisdiction. Frequent boat trips took women to the Morning after island where they could take the medication without fear of prosecution. It took four years of planning to create the Morning After. First of all, the location of the floating island was critical as nautical law and logistics were complicated. The privacy of the women was paramount, as was their safety. So factors such as the weather and tides had to be carefully considered. The short term goal was to help as many women as possible reach the safety of the Morning After Island. The long term goal was to generate meaningful change for millions of Honduran women and raise their voices so the world could hear them. The strategy was to create powerful, striking imagery to generate global awareness of the crisis and keep a significant amount of pressure on the government to repeal the ban. To do that, Ogilvy made emotional short form videos about the Morning after island and posted them online for the world to see and share and to ask people to sign a petition to to repeal the ban. That petition generated over 2 million signatures from around the world. The videos gained coverage from hundreds of media outlets in 15 countries, which equated to over $30 million in free airtime. 180 million people saw the videos. 280 million people saw news stories about the Morning after island. And most importantly, the campaign put Honduras first woman president under immense pressure to act. As a result, the President formed a new Ministry of Women's Rights to collaborate on a broad legislative proposal defending women's sexual, reproductive and civil rights. And on International Women's Day, the Strategic Group for the Emergency Contraceptive Pill, which had been ignored for 12 years, was invited to have a televised meeting with the President, reaching an agreement on several key issues. The repeal of the ban is still being debated in Honduran Congress, and until then, the morning after island still floats in international waters. Don't go away. We'll be right back. Dude, did you order the new iPhone 17 Pro? Got it from Verizon, the best 5G network in America. I never looked so good. You look the same. But with this camera, everything looks better. Especially me. You haven't changed your hair in 15 years. Selfies check please.

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In 2017, tennis star Andy Murray was being interviewed at a press conference at Wimbledon. I remember an interesting moment when Murray corrected a reporter when being asked a certain question. Andy Sam is the first US player to reach a major semifinal since 2009. How would you describe. I beg your pardon, Male player, right? Yes, first male player. That was very telling. The reporter had overlooked the fact Serena and Venus Williams had reached Wimbledon finals many times. Andy Murray knew and respected the fact. That moment underlines a crippling aspect of modern culture that women's achievements are so often overlooked or ignored. And it isn't just reporters who get it wrong. Internet search results overwhelmingly favor the achievements of male athletes over female athletes, even when the results are incorrect. The reason? The greater number of searches around male sports has led the search engines to prioritize inaccurate statistics. That got an advertising agency in New Zealand thinking DDB New Zealand was pitching the FIFA Women's world. While researching facts about the world's top soccer players, the ad agency discovered that women held many of soccer's records. Yet when asking simple, ungendered questions to find these facts, the Internet was incorrectly putting men ahead of the statistically superior women in its search results. When DDB expanded their searches, they found over 30 similar errors across many sports. For example, which team has won the most basketball World cup titles? The Internet says the USA and Yugoslavian teams have with five titles each. These statistics say it's the USA women's team who have won 11. Which player has won the most Wimbledon singles titles? The Internet says Roger Federer with eight. The statistics say it's Martina Navratilova with nine. Which boxer has had the most title defenses? The Internet says Joe Louis with 27. The statistics say it's Regina Helmitch with 45. The list of errors is long. Now, if people report these inaccuracies using the search engine's feedback function, they can be noted and fixed. Except most people have no idea where the search engine feedback function is. So DDB New Zealand created an easy to use site called correcttheinternet.com when an incorrect stat is found on the Internet that prioritizes a male athlete over a woman when the woman should rank higher. The tool on the Correct the Internet site makes it easy for anyone to send feedback with just a few clicks, which if done on a large enough scale, will make a difference. DDB New Zealand then created a video for correcttheinternet.com featuring a young girl asking the Internet another question. Hey, Internet.

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Who has scored the most goals in international football? Cristiano Ronaldo has scored 118 goals in international football. What about Christine Sinclair? How many goals has she scored in international football? Christine Sinclair has scored 190 goals in international football. Well then, who scored the most goals in international football? Cristiano Ronaldo has scored 118 goals in international football. That's not right.

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Are you sure the answer isn't Cristiano Ronaldo? It's Canadian Christine Sinclair. The algorithms search engines use are trained by our human behavior. And the Internet has learned our human bias towards men. It's a problem we all created. But by using correcttheinternet.com, it's a problem we have the power to fix. And while women's achievements are missing online, so are their credit histories. Dude, did you order the new iPhone 17 Pro? Got it from Verizon, the best 5G network in America. I never looked so good. You look the same. But with this camera, everything looks better. Especially me. You haven't changed your hair in 15 years. Selfies check please.

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Millions of low income women in Mexico are unable to become entrepreneurs for one simple reason. They have no credit histories with banks, so their loan applications are rejected. In January of 2021, We Capital, a financial institution in Mexico, teamed up with their advertising agency to try and come up with not just an advertising campaign, but a real solution. While research showed that 83% of Mexican women have no formal credit histories, it also revealed another fact. It's common throughout Latin America for women to take out weekly or monthly store credits. Shopkeepers take note of each item a customer buys and makes note of when that customer settles the bill. The problem was that these records are not recognized by the national financial institutions, leaving women without proof of their spending behavior. It was an interesting paradox. Women were denied loans. Yet research also proved that women pay their bills more consistently than men. So We Capital and their ad agency created an initiative called Data Tienda, which translated means data shop. It allowed We Capital to tap into the accounting records of shopkeepers throughout Mexico. Women could sign up on the Data Tienda website, provide records from five to 10 different shopkeepers they did business with, and once vetted, those records were converted into official credit histories almost immediately. Over 10,000 women registered on the Data Tienda site, and over 2,300 received microloans for their new businesses. This story is a reminder that great solutions start with defining the problem. At first glance, it appeared women had no credit histories, but that wasn't the actual problem. Women all over Latin America have credit histories they've built up all their lives. They just weren't being recognized by major lending institutions. Women were invisible to the banking industry. Dada Tienda gave them visibility and sparked the possibility of long term change. In India, menstruation has many taboos. For example, when girls and women are having their periods, they cannot step inside temples, they can't enter kitchens, they can't touch drinking water, they're not allowed to water plants, they can only wash their hair after the fourth day, they are not allowed to exercise, and they are often confined to a separate room in the family home so they don't come into contact with anyone or anything. That prompted Whisper, a sanitary napkin brand owned by P and G in India, to do a survey among 1100 women and 200 men across 10 cities. The survey revealed that a shocking 65% of Indian women observed these age old beliefs, but 82% wanted to break free of them. Research also showed that women feel restricted from achieving their dreams because of the irrational myths around periods. So Whisper and its advertising agency set out to bust period taboos by asking women to touch the pickle. Of the many taboos in India for menstruating women, one of the strangest is that they are forbidden from touching pickle jars. They're taught that the pickles will rot when a woman touches the pickle jar during her egg impure time. Whisper and its advertising agency thought that this irrational pickle taboo was so odd, it was an apt metaphor for all the other taboos that hold women back. Plus, it had the right tone and intrigue to lead to the taboo conversation. Advertising agency BBDO then created a Touch the Pickle video that begins with a young woman touching a pickle jar. Much to the shock of her grandmother.

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She touched the pickle. She touched the pickle. Oh yes she did. Arihan Baba she touched the pickle.

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Yay.

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Yeah, she touched the pickle. I touched the pickle. Wear whites, don't go out, don't play. Don't touch the pickle. I say girls, let's break the taboos. Go ahead and touch the pickle.

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Whisper Kadambaraaya the Touch the Pickle video was launched across social media, radio, YouTube and television to spread the message on ground. Events were also organized. It became fuel and an open platform for women across India to question and bust period related myths. To turn a subject that was once hidden into an open debate. To change the mindset of entire families. Women from all walks of life, including celebrities, shared their own taboo stories on social media and pledged support. With the hashtag touchthepickle, Whisper invited anthropologists to talk about the origins of these existing taboos and explained their irrelevance in today's world. Stand up comedians joined in. Conversations were had on radio and TV and a TEDx talk was given. As a result, over 2.9 million women pledged to touch the pickle. The video generated free media coverage worth over $6.1 million in India and attracted stories from global media outlets including the BBC, Financial Times, Reuters and the Wall Street Journal. Over 2 million people have watched the video on YouTube. Other feminine product brands have now joined the conversation. And leading Bollywood actors, who traditionally never endorse sanitary products, have become the face of the brands. And Whisper's brand awareness climbed from 21% to over 90%. It's amazing what you can achieve when you dare to touch the pickle. For all of history, women have championed social change, pioneered incredible innovations and made invaluable contributions to society. But recent research reveals that women are represented in only 0.5% of recorded history, proving they are all too easily erased and their accomplishments are all too easily forgotten. And when that happens, it creates gaps in opportunities and pay and impairs their ability to achieve their dreams. That's why correct the Internet is such a powerful idea. With a global community of people willing to speak up and take tangible action, some of the gender biases that have been ruling our search engines can be reversed. In Honduras, it took a bold idea to fuel real change. Denied rights on land, they took to the sea. To empower women and raise awareness of their situation around the world. Figuring out a way to get financial institutions to recognize women's credit histories will allow thousands of women in Mexico to earn a living. And breaking centuries of myths and taboos around periods is helping empower women in India. All of these ideas were generated by advertising agencies, but none of the ideas were merely ads or commercials. They were ideas that promoted tangible real world change. That the power of the creativity when you're under the influence. I'm Terry O'Reilly. This episode was recorded in the Tear Stream Mobile recording studio. Producer Debbie O'Reilly sound engineer Jeff Devine Research Abby Forsythe under the Influence Theme by Ari Posner and Ian lefever Music provided by APM Music Follow me on social erryoinfluence if you're enjoying this episode, you might also like putting fans in How Sports Teams Sell Tickets Season nine Episode three. You'll find it in our archives. Wherever you listen to the show, you can now find our podcasts on the Apostrophe YouTube channel. See you next week. Unfun only 5% of TV sports coverage is dedicated to women's sports. Just saying. Dude, did you order the new iPhone 17 Pro? Got it from Verizon, the best 5G network in America. I never look so good. You look the same. But with this camera everything looks better. Especially me. You haven't changed your hair in 15 years.

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