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I'm Mecca.
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Today we're doing something. Oh, oh. We're introducing our name still. Y' all don't know me.
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Yeah, we have. Well, especially if it's live. Like, we have to say, I'm Mecca now. We have to do the whole introduction now, right?
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It's just like, guys, y' all don't know me yet.
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I mean, if you're in the Screw Crew, if you're on Patreon, you should know us.
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So that is true. You know what I mean? Like, but I guess for formality sakes, for those of you who this is your first time listening, welcome to another episode of Unhinged tomorrow. I'm your host, J. Welcome. We are doing something so totally different, but it's going to be consistent. Now. We have finally cracked the code and figured out how to go live on our YouTube channel while also putting it into our page. Patreon Screw Crew. Right. Okay. So basically what we're going to be doing, so we record our episodes on Mondays starting at 11am Eastern Standard Time. We do one, take a break and come back. So right now we're actually doing our second one. I kind of played around because I remember seeing something about going live on Riverside, and I was like, well, let me see. Turns out it's easy as, right? So here we are. What we're going to do is we're going to drop the link to our live recording on Mondays in our Patreon, so all of our Patreon members, you can tap in and be a part of the conversation. You can see the episode before the episode ever hits the air. You can become a part of the motherfucking episode.
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That's even better than the early upload
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when you could, you know, we could
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see what y' all saying in the chat. Look at all the screws in the chat. I feel like Kyson that. All right, this is that.
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Oh, my gosh. This is like we're. It's like we're streaming.
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Oh, my God. Irl. We're streamers. What they be doing?
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Oh, My God. Literally, that's so lit.
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Okay, well, this is also a perfect episode for this to be. Thank you for loving my hair. They was talking about me on Tick Tock. Oh, the. The chat gonna be distracting as girl.
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I was gonna say, stop looking at the Snapchat. Here you go. Just look at. Look at your camera. See? And it's our problem right here.
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Okay. We gotta get you like, this first episode. You gotta let us get our. Get our giggles out. This is fun. We ain't never did this.
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Yeah. This is so funny. And I hope you guys are just as fun. Oh, wait, let me see. Let me see if I can make it. Oh, now? Yeah, I made mine big because I wanted to make it bigger. Okay. Yeah, okay.
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Okay, We. Come on, let's get there. So this was actually gonna be like our Black History A Black History Month episode we were planning on.
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Who?
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Our Black History Month. What?
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There we go.
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I said our Black History episode, which every episode. I'm so excited. No, this is going to be our Black History Month episode where we're going to talk to you guys about some things. Like, how black are you? Do you do this and do you do that? So this is actually a really perfect episode to have an active chat. Something Jamila asked before we even started recording was like, what is your favorite niche black film? And I have several. Okay, okay. So there is a movie called the Cookout, and it's not super niche, but it is sodium.
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Sodium. Sodium.
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It is kind of niche. There's also a movie with Red Grant. If I remember the title, it's who Made the Potato Salad? You know what movie I'm talking about? My dad literally brought it home on, like, bootleg from the Barbershop. Like, that's how. That's how intense it was. You never heard of that one?
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No.
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Chat, have y' all too nigger for me? Yeah, well, I mean, it has Red Grant in it. That's about as good as it comes.
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One of my favorite niche black films is Pooda Changing. That's a good one. I used to be overly obsessed with that movie. Like, my sister used to hate that. I loved it so much, but I couldn't explain why I loved Pootie Tang so much. I just thought it was so stupid and funny and. Whip a tie. Whip a tie. You know what I'm saying?
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Yes. What's another Undercover Brother?
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Honestly, I just. I. Oh, Undercover Brother. That is such a good.
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It really is. I should.
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I feel like supreme cinema.
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Undercover Brother shouldn't even be as niche as it Is it honestly should be a mainstream.
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And I've always said I want a sequel.
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Yeah, no, I think.
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And I want to be in the sequel.
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My God, Eddie, if you see this, please make a sequel.
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Please. I'm begging. Like, literally begging.
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The chat's talking about all of the Friday movies. Those aren't necessarily niche, though.
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I would say Fridays have definitely hit mainstream because they're just so, like, cultural. You know what I will say if you want to. If you want to have all three and you want to say which one is niche? Friday two is the niche one.
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Is that the Christmas movie?
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That's my opinion. Nope. Next Friday is when you have Mike Epps and they move to a wrench.
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Oh, with. With Kim Whit.
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Because they won the lottery.
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Yes. Of the three, I would agree with that. I would agree with that.
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That's the niche one.
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Someone said Uncle P with Master P. I. I forgot about that one.
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Romeo, I probably haven't.
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Yeah, Romeo, his kids play the kids. Romeo was in it, too, playing, like. And he come and like, he's a hood cool uncle.
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That girl's. Oh, my God.
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Pretty hot and thick. Yeah. Girls is so good.
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Fat Girls is such a good movie. Again, I don't care. And the fact that it came on Oxygen every week. I watched it every time it came on. Such a good movie. I love Monique. And honestly, and I don't know, you know, I'm saying, correct me if I'm wrong, please. In my opinion, watching stuff like that and watching Monique specifically, I feel like has trained me to not be fat phobic. Because I think obviously, like, the default is, like, fat phobia in general. Like most people are. But ingesting a lot of Monique's, like, stuff, and the way that she just embraced herself and the fat girls movie, I'm like, yeah, like, I feel like that because I watch it so young. I. I grew up to not really give a fuck. And then also just knowing that people be big. Like, I don't know, like, people be forgetting that people be big. Like, I don't know. I think those two things, honestly, has made me not be fat phobic like most other people. I probably still am a little bit, because most people still got a little bit of that ism on them.
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I don't know. I mean, as the resident fat or former fat, when fat girls came out in my fat ass family, it was an event. Like, me and my aunts and my cousins, who. We were all chunky. My aunties are plus size. Like, we. We went as A group to the movies to see it. And also I remember when we went. It was also.
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It came out in theaters. I believe so.
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Or maybe it wasn't. It wasn't. It was like a group event maybe. Did it come out in theaters?
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I just remember always watching it on oxygen.
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It was like I really wanted. Well, I was with my aunties and cousins when I watched it because I remember my. One of my aunts specifically, she quotes it to this day like fat girls gets quoted in my family to this day in terms of like thick Madame.
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I'm like thick madam. And I'm like, I don't know if people know where that comes from. Like I'm not thinking about them. I always wanted to be a thick.
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Like please act like you know Sam. So yeah, love fat girls. I also. This is my btmi. I got sick the night. This is why I can't remember if it was at someone's house or the movie theaters because being a little fat girl, I was obsessed with the Lipton green tea. And I had like three of them green teas that night. And I had three hot links and I would. It was coming out in the front and the back. It was really intense. That is also intertwined with my memories of seeing fat girls for the first time. Them hot links was so good though. I don't regret that thing. I love a hot link but all my ass was on fire.
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I think.
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What was. Was it like 8 or 9 when that came on? You cannot give no 8, 9 year old child 3 extra hot hot links. That should not have.
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Okay. Sometimes I just don't really know what else to say, you know, I'm trying to think about some other.
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Someone said Akeelah and the Bee is niche. Do you think Akilah and the Bee is a niche?
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What Akilah and the beat was, Baby, Let me tell you about Akilah and the Bee. Akilah and the Be came out in theaters. I was saying Akilah. The Be was a whole premiere. Maybe my grandmother took. Took us to Akilah and the Be. I will never forget this because she used to always take us to movies. We went to go see Akilah to Be and then we went to. We went to IHOP after. Actually no, I think we might have went to Denny's. I remember distinctly going to the movie theater to watch Akilah and the B. We was in Beaumont, Texas when we went to go see. That's how long ago that shit came, Child.
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Well, Keke was a kid.
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Oh, Johnson's Coming to vacation. Absolutely.
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Is that niche? See, I don't consider Akilah or Johnson's niche. I love Johnson.
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Family vacation is niche for is. Is niche in general. I don't think no white person ever in their life has ever.
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But no, what I thought we were talking about, even in black people say
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niche within the black.
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I wouldn't say that.
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I guess I didn't even think of it like that. But I feel like at this point it's probably not. It's no longer niche in black spaces. I think at some point it was, you know what. But I think because so many people started to talk about it, I think you kind of like reintegrated space and people like kind of went backwards and started to watch.
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Because when I do, everyone gets the. Everyone knows this reference. When you do this. This is so it's like, is it really niche if we all get the reference now.
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Now we talking glamorous yeri5874. Silver brand. If you know you.
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Oh, I don't even know what that is.
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That's a niche ass black movie. Oh, let me tell you, that is with Lisa Ray McCormick.
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Okay.
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Okay. She goes to prison and all women's prison. Prison, right. And it's. It's very traumatic. Right? And okay, I don't know if you remember. And this is why I love Tik Tok. Tik Tok makes things become things again. There was a sound that went viral on Tik Tok. It's from Silver Brand. It's when she was like, she died two weeks ago. And she's like, no, no, that is from Silver Brand because Lisa Ray's daughter died in a shootout while she was in prison. That's so not funny, bro. It's not funny. It's horrible. And they end up. So the who. Who play Pinky.
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Yeah.
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From Friday. I never remember his real name, but he was also in One World where I thought loose. So that man, he played a really like, evil character in that. In that movie, he was the warden. So he was.
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He was raping.
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He was on all type of. They end up revolting in the women's prison. They had a whole, like, riot. A lot of the women died. It's really good though. But it's niche as. And I'm pretty sure that's a straight to DVD type of bib. But that was really good. I really enjoy Silver Brand.
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It's.
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It's really. Someone said Kirkland and I think that's a really niche movie too. Create and evolve.
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You think, oh, and do you guys know Aria? This is our production assistant.
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Yes, Arya is. It's tapping in. Yes, Arya is our production assistant. She's gonna be tapping in and out. She's also going to be helping organize the show. She's. You guys are going to be chatting with her here and there on Patreon. Like she's. She's a part of the crew. Everybody say, hey, Aria.
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Hey, Aria.
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Crooklyn. Yeah.
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Someone said Holiday Heart. I don't think Holiday Heart is niche because. Okay, guys, follow me.
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Holiday Heart is niche even in black people. Yeah. What?
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Yes, everybody gets.
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They might have seen the memes, but a lot of people have not watched Holiday.
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I did not know that. Holiday Heart is so good. I love Holiday Heart.
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Holiday Heart is really good. One of my favorite parts. We me, Jazz and Jelani, we often reference movies all the time. But something. Because we have a little bit of that tism in our brain, we always reference parts of movies that nobody would give a about. And it's a specific part in this movie where the little girl, her mama been gone for mad long. And she looks at Holly, she goes, it's been three days Holiday. And we say that all the time. It's been three days Holiday.
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You want to hear a niche movie that actually I watched for the first time with Jamila was Double Platinum. Remember we watched that at Autumn's house.
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Autumn's parents. Yes. It is my mission to make everybody.
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I've never seen Double platinum until like
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it's a scheme that I 2016. If you come around me long enough. Hey, does anybody feel like Double Platinum? That is such a good movie. Oh, my gosh. It's in veined in vain. It's embedded into my veins. Olivia. I love it.
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Someone said the Secret life of Bees. I've never seen that to this day.
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Oh, you've never seen Secret Life.
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I remember when it came out, but I never watched it that. Because there's an Alicia Keys in it, if I remember correctly.
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Absolutely. Alicia Keys Queen Latin, Viola Day. Another unknown lady. I don't think Borrow was in there.
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And the other. The other light skinned lady who smiles like. Like does. Does she die? Am I knowing this correctly?
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She died in the movie? Yes, she committed suicide.
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Oh, I didn't know it was that.
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Oh, another. A statement that we say from a Secret life of Bees. Another one amongst our. Our siblings reference is going to the wall me. We say that all the time. So it's so the re. Okay. You know that trend on TikTok where it's like, you know, yeah.
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Like, you have your saying.
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Like, we say this when. Da, da, da, da. We say that when somebody is, like, looking sad, acting sad, or they're having a moment. Going to the wall. May. Because May in Secret Life of Bees, she would, like, she would start crying, go to that wall and write herself a note and write her journal and put that journal entry into the wall. So we always say, go into the wall.
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Maybe
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going to the wall, man. Wow. May killed herself.
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I. It's a.
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It's a really sad movie. But it's so good.
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I don't know. I think I'm good. I don't want to watch it.
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No. It's so good. And then there's another. I love sad movies, guys. I'm so sorry. There's another reference that we started when she goes. I saw Ro. I can't wait for Jazz to watch this.
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The Five Heartbeats. The Five Heartbeats. Not niche amongst. Nick. No. It has to be Nisha Monks. You think so?
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That's what I'm saying.
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Okay.
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I think Harpies might be a little niche amongst. Because everybody ain't seen the Heartbeats. Everybody ain't seen the Five.
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I feel like that would be the newer generation. Like, I feel like everyone born for sure, before the year 2000 has seen the five heartbeats.
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Yeah. Younger folks. People my age, obviously, and younger. I don't, like, immediately think they've seen it, but older generations, they've definitely. Like our parents, and they definitely have all seen it.
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Yeah. For sure now.
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She's still grieving me. I still.
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That's Robert Townsend. He's given us so many good things. Jackie Brown, the mockumentary that he made with Jennifer Lewis. That is a niche. Yeah, it's like the. It's like a mockumentary. She's a singer. It's. It's literally so funny. Dolly Parton's in it. Like, it's very niche. I just. It actually just came up on my TikTok and I watched it when I was a kid, and I couldn't. Like, it was one of them, like, Core Memories Unlocked. Like, I said. Oh, my God. I haven't thought about that in years.
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Well, shout out to that niche. Black films. It's Black History Month. What it. What did Bobby Brown say? Why they gave us the shortest month. It should be Black History Year. We need a whole year. My bad. I love Bobby Brown, y'. All. Like, Bobby Brown is actually one of my favorite artists. That's why I dressed up like him for Halloween.
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Remember, they tried to use that against you when you were getting jumped one time they brought it up and it was like.
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They did.
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Yeah, I saw, I saw.
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What was their point?
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That you were ugly. But then people were in the comments like, this is a Halloween.
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When I was dressed as they were
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trying because you were like, you were doing this. And I was like, this is crazy, y'. All.
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You guys are used to people doing their own stunts. You guys have to do this. I'm gonna do my own stunts. I'm going to do the things I don't care about. Looking a fool for the sake of the company, for the sake of a joke. I will make myself look a fool if it goes through. You feel me? So them lame can suck a big fat word to the Caucasians.
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Why y' all ate with the word. But we have to talk about it next month. We can't talk about it this month.
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No whiteness will be allowed in my month of Feb. You crackers got to take a seat.
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Occasions to the back. Well, what is the blackest anything that you think that you do on like a day to day basis? Like, it could be maybe something you clean your house with. How something during your daily routine.
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That's very like the blackest thing I do in my everyday life is make noise unnecessarily. Oh, My God.
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Jesus.
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I do this all day long. Just cussing. Ain't nothing going on. You know, Another black thing as I. Black ass. What? Another black ass thing I do is look out the window.
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Yes.
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Looking out the window is very black.
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And. And you don't never open the blinds. You have to lift it up and look. Yeah.
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You don't open. No, no, I'm not gonna open.
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You gotta. Yeah. It's like one day you wake up. The blackest thing that I do. And I noticed it yesterday at church. I don't know when I started calling children baby. Like, I don't know when that happened. I don't know when that transition happened for me because it happened so naturally. And now I just do it and I like we were filing out of church yesterday and this little boy like ran, kind of ran across me and I was like, excuse me, baby. And I just, was like, it just came out. I said, when did I become showing your age?
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Right?
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I said, when did I become showing your age?
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You know? Yes.
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There.
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And subsequently I call everybody baby. I think that's just the old black country bitch of me, that baby. That, that, that baby ain't mean no harm. I love saying baby. And it's funny because, like, I don't really call men baby, right? And if I do, I say it in the same way that I would say something else, like, calm down, baby. Like, I'll say it like that. Not like, oh, baby, baby, oh, daddy. Now am I your baby, Daddy, am I your baby?
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Burning blue. Burning blue.
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I will say, like in the bedroom, I might say a little baby.
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Yeah, that doesn't count, though. That doesn't count.
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Anything I say in the confines of hunching hours, I don't know that lady.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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I'll say anything. I'll say I love you.
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No,
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I don't give a damn. Shoot me. Shoot me. I don't want to. I want to add to the moment. I'm exhilarated.
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Okay, pet names for boys is kind of like, I don't know, sometimes. Is it just a me thing or do you feel like different boys require things? Like for some boys it makes sense for me to do like pet names, and for other boys it's kind of like that's just not, it doesn't, it doesn't flow to call you a pet name.
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Yeah, I, I definitely think sometimes it depends on the person because there are girls I've met who the pet name itself is so ingrained in them that it feels weird when they don't do it. But I'm not that type of person. So I go off the vibe of the boy. Like, you could be a like poo, boo, baby, babe. Like, that's different. Those are different names. And not every man gets those names. Like I, I, I shell them out based on the boy because a, a man who's a boo is not a man who's hey poo who is not the man who's hey babe. These are all different brands of, you know. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.
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It just kind of depends on like, I don't even know. I don't even have like, no, I guess, like, thing. Like it's not like I don't have no defined thing or reasoning or rhyme or reason to how and which. It's just like, it just happens naturally. Like some, some guy I talked to, I might be like, oh, thanks babes. Or thanks boo. Or I might calm like, oh, hello darling. Like I, I'm good for hello darling. Like, I don't know. That's sword to a boy. Hella darling.
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When I was with born in the 80s crack baby. This is a so such a throwback. But he was older. He used to be like, hey dear. And it was just like, I, like, I Like deer. It was cute. Hey, dear. It was cute.
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Yeah.
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Excuse me, sweetheart.
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Usually, no, thanks. But on the contrary, I like when all boys call me pet names.
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I know.
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You know what I'm saying? Like, I enjoy it. It's very. Like,
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I've been. I've been called my fancy. You're my fancy. And I really like that one. My fancy.
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Buy a Brit or something like Nigerian.
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My fancy.
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I am fancy.
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I fancy. It makes sense. He also be saying my jollof rice, my pounded yam.
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No, don't call me that like that. I'd be like, what?
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You know, I like the variety.
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Pounded yam.
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Well, it's like a. It's like a food that they eat.
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I know what it is.
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Don't.
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I don't want.
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You know what's crazy? There was a boy who had a crush on Sabrina and he, he. When he saw her one time, he said, oh, Sabrina, you look like butter on grits.
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Butter on grits is so country, bro.
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He was dead ass, too. He really wasn't playing. He said, I bet he was like, I love the comparisons to food that people like. Like, I. I really take that as the compliment, you know, a. Tell me I look like butter on grits. I'm. Oh, I'm hot.
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I would crack the up. No.
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It was the funniest thing I've ever heard, mind you. We're fresh. We're fresh in Houston, so. So we're not even adjusted to the country. We're butter on grits. And that's the only way you eat grits with butter, salt and pepper. Happy Black History Month.
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And if you're feeling froggy, a little cheese.
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If you're feeling fancy. You know, I do love a cheesy grit.
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I ain't even going to lie. I love a cheesy gr.
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And maybe this is a little bit of my hard, er, showing. Maybe my Houston is showing too much. But I unfortunately do love a Henny lemon lamb chop with hookah smoke infused in my face. I enjoy the nigga meals. They are good.
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Lamb chops taste like animal.
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You don't like lamb chops?
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And sometimes I'm in the mood for that. And sometimes what. What it's, you know, I think it's
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what they call it.
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It's gain.
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It's like, that's what you're tasting. The game.
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Yeah.
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Wild tastes. Wow. Yeah.
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Tastes like it was alive this morning.
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And I kind of. I be in the mood for that sometime. I'll be like,
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when it's cooked really well and seasoned very well, you kind of like. You don't taste as much as the game game, but if it's not cooked very well, you taste all of the game. And it can be very nasty, is the easiest way I can say it.
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I don't think I've ever. I understand what you're saying. I don't think I've experienced that for myself. Knock on wood. I don't want to.
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But you probably also just like the taste. So that's the thing. Like, some people enjoy a gamey taste. Does it.
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Would oxtail be considered like a gamey situation too?
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Not in my opinion. I don't think oxtail is very gamey. If it is, it probably was old.
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What's the game like beside lamb chop? Goat?
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Deer. I've heard goat is gamey. I've never tried. Goat is good as. Bro. I ain't even gonna lie.
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When I was.
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Deer is a little gamey, though. A good. A good deer sausage is.
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Is. I've never had deer. I'll be honest with you. You. But when I was in the Caribbean on the ABC Islands, goat is their primary meat. So everything was whatever and goat. And I'm the goat.
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I could never get to try and go. It's just. I just have never. I don't know, like, I'm. I don't know if I would like it because I've heard some mixed reviews. And that's the thing. It's one of those things where some people like it really, you know. Well, and some people.
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Someone said turkey don't I like a turkey sandwich.
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Turkey is not gamey.
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But I've never really been a. I. I eat turkey sandwich with like, the turkey slices. And then I eat a little bit of turkey and gravy.
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Oh, that is cured meat. That is not the same.
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Well, then I've only eat turkey for real on Thanksgiving with some gravy. I don't really just eat turkey like that unless it's a turkey neck, because I'll put that in stuff.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't think turkey really tastes gamey, in my opinion. In my. It's a little. It's a little. I don't know. I don't think it tastes gamey, though. You know what's real good, though? Since we're talking about meats and. And undiscovered
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gator. That's some Florida alligator. I feel. I've never had gator. My mom has. She said it was good.
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Alligator is good fried. I've never. I've only Ever had it fried, but it. On God, it tastes like chicken. Like, I hate to be that, but it tastes like chicken.
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But it.
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And it tastes like chicken in a way where you buy, you like that tastes like chicken, but I know it ain't. That's what it tastes like. I can't explain it. Other than that, you'd be like, that tastes like some type of chicken. But why it ain't chicken? Something's off. Right? Right. What's that? Gator.
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I've had duck before. Duck also tastes like game. Yeah. Yeah. And I was gonna say tastes like it could be chicken, but it's not
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like, yeah, they got that game for sure. I remember tasting duck. I said, right, that's duck. Is it? Duck will do that. It's weird because it's like, you know how something's not nasty, but it also
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is not delicious, but also not delicious. Oh, someone said Papa Dose got a good gator bite. I'm gonna remember that for next time I go to Papa Doe so I can face the gators.
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First time I ever had alligator was in Louisiana. Actually, the only time I've ever had a gator for real is. Is in Louisiana. Also swamplands is. I forgot what city it is. But we always. Whenever we're driving through Louisiana to go to Texas or back to Georgia, we always stop at this very specific place that has the boudin shop. It's been around for. Has to be now for 30 years. It's. It's a staple to have a drive through. And like, my parents used to go there. No, it's not a drive through. It's an old, like, just shack, literally. And they have really, really, really good food. Some of the best gumball I've ever had. But they have alligator there. And so that's when we first tried alligator. We got some alligator bites. Really, really good. Tender, juicy.
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I'm gonna have to take my ass to Papa Dose because now I want to try the gator bites.
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Yeah.
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I love Papa dogs. I love Papa dogs.
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It's one of those good chain restaurants
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because it ain't too many papa dolls. Papa see toast. I ain't been to the Papa's, a barbecue place, because I'm not too much of a barbecue lady.
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But I. I have this. Me and Jelani have this disdain for barbecue. And it's so weird because I actually do like barbecue. But at the same time, yes, we're here.
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We're here.
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Like, the thought of barbecue alone makes me want to vomit. But if my daddy is cooking barbecue, I bust it down. I don't know what it is.
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Listen.
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But I also really hate barbecue restaurants.
B
It's so crazy.
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Specifically barbecue restaurants. I hate them.
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This might be why we're soul sisters, because I don't like barbecue restaurants. But if my Uncle Ken is barbecuing, I'm going to show up that barbecues the out some ribs, and he makes his own barbecue sauce. Bitch.
A
I truly believe that barbecue. Barbecue was never supposed to enter into the restaurant. Yeah. Barbecue was always supposed to be a home food, a. A cookout food. It was never supposed to enter into the mainstream as restaurant cuisine.
B
Yeah.
A
It ain't right.
B
Yeah, no, no, I'm agreeing because I've never went to a barbecue restaurant and. And liked what I had. But I know if my uncle is.
A
It always tastes like smoke, you know?
B
Now y' all tell me.
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And can't nobody. Can't nobody do what my daddy do on that girl.
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If y' all tell me Ken is barbecue and I' ma show up. That's all you need to know. If my uncle's barbecue and I am gonna show up, I'm gonna tear it up. But in a general sense, when people be like, do you like barbecue? No, not really. Not at all.
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Don't ever. If I ever say I'm hungry, don't you ever in your life suggest me.
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Someone said barbecue chain restaurants are an MLS MLM scheme.
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Oh, God, they're disgusting, bro. The meat be dry. The barbecue sauce be overly tangy. The Mac and cheese is ass. The green beans come out of a. Can this it be Bush's baked beans. Get the out of my face. No, no.
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Some things have to be made up. I. I 100 agree that, yes, I need that home.
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I needed it. What else is about some black. What are some black history facts that you like? Are there any random black history facts that you want to chat.
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A black man created the stoplight. A black woman, I believe, created the arning board. My mom had this book growing up that had all the facts of just, like everything that had been invented by black people. I know she still has it. And so during Black History Month, she would always bring it out. And those are some. The stoplight. I always remembered because it's like we see stoplights every single day for sure.
A
The light bulb as well. Jack Daniels, Thomas Edison is really just the first to pick. Uncle.
B
Uncle Nevis, nearest. Sorry. Created that formula. Amazing. George Washington Carver famously created peanut butter, but he had. He created 100 different uses for the peanut in general. I think we remember him for Peanut butter. But he. It wasn't just that. It was 50, 11 things. You know, a black man created the. Essentially the water gun. Yeah.
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Shout out to you. I've had many, many a fun childhood. Mem.
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Or what was it? It's not a Super Soaker. Super Soaker. Specific.
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Specifically the super. So come on. Super. So y' all was not there for the Super Soaker. Super circus used to go out. My daddy bought us a Super Soaker. I literally remember when he bought us a big ass Super Soaker. We used to have this big ass inflatable pool in Beaumont. We had some really good memories in Texas, y', all, before things got weird.
B
It was the reminiscing. It was a
A
childhood.
B
I remember the first time I had a Super Soaker. I got to play with it. It was at a church picnic. And what they always used to. Again, so fucking black. At the church picnic in the summertime in California. You know what's hot as fuck, yo. They had the water balloon fight at the Super Soakers. We used to tear that.
A
To be honest. That is so black. Because. Do white people have vacation?
B
I don't know. Do they.
A
Do white. Do white people have vacation Bible school?
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I am a c. I am a ch.
A
I am a ch. Do white people have children's choir?
B
I think they have children's choir. I do think they have.
A
No way.
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Have you seen.
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Do white people have. Pastor's anniversary,
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Mother's Day service, Father's Day service, Men's Day, Women's Day,
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Youth Sunday. Do white churches have Junior Usher boards?
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Kev just said this. White people do not be having as a victim. There's a victim of the Junior Usher.
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Do y' all have. Do y' all have mine? Do white people have dance minutes?
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No, because miming.
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No way. Y' all. And the miming is different. I don't see how white people. And now that I think about it, I don't even understand how white people are so evangelical because y'. All. Church be boring as like. I can understand how black folks get really inundated with church because church used to get fun.
B
It did.
A
You know, outside of the propaganda and outside of the homophobia and the misogyny and all the other stuff that we got, church used to be a hoot. White people, why do y'. All. Can I. Why do y' all love God so much?
B
Y' all be.
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Y' all be bored as what? What about Yalls. Christianity really got y' all locked in because it's. I've been to a white Church before. I've never been more bored in my life. And I knew I was in the wrong place. When it was time for their choir to sing and they pulled out a CD player. I said, get me the up out of here.
B
A CD player is crazy.
A
What the is this
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is an awesome.
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I said, that's not how that go. Where is. Where is the instruments, y'?
B
All?
A
Where's the choir director? Yeah, are there any. Are there any crackers in the chat?
B
Good.
A
I just want to know any. Y' all go to white churches. Do they have these things? I've never heard of historically white. And I'm not talking about them non denominational big ass churches. No, I'm talking about traditional cracker churches.
B
They do. I was watching a crime show. The white Christians ended up killing somebody. Spoiler alert. But they had a lot of footage from their. From their white church and they. They did like purity balls. They did they. And they went to like, they went to like Christian summer camp.
A
Oh God, that sounds horrible. Sounds like conversion camp.
B
Conceptually very on par, I would believe. Yeah, they definitely do things different than I would think that black people do. Yeah. But yeah, I always say this. I would never downplay anyone's church hurt. I personally don't have any. I used to have a lot of fun at church because of all the activities that we have. And also I think part of it is growing up and knowing and being able to laugh at all the. That's honestly hilarious that goes on at church. Like when you're not being traumatized. The do be funny as like I went to a church specifically, which again, this is like when Shawnee o' Neal's husband Keon was like, stop to that lady who went. Who was going crazy. Churches be having that one person.
A
That clip is so funny because it
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do be that one lady who do it and who do it every single week.
A
You are.
B
This is a performance dragging. It's like. And know you be dragging it, but
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you going to drag it,
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drag it. Cuz I need to see it like I see it every Sunday. We need to have something to talk about in the car on the way home. Okay. My favorite part of service was always when they would open the doors of the church and you could. You could make a testimony and people, you know, black Christians do not believe in the.
A
In the therapy business.
B
That was my favorite part of church. Used be like one time this man got up there and told the church he had cheated on his wife. His wife sitting right there.
A
I told this story before. I believe on this pod. But it's a long time ago. Or actually no, I don't think I've said said on the pod. I think I made a video about it. We were in church. When I tell you this was one of the gag things that has ever happened in church. We were in a season and this is also very black. I just know for a fact that white people don't do like this because this is just some that would think of. We were in the process of switching pastors and because we were switching pastors, they had a whole election. They were trial. Do you. Every pastor would get a, a week or a couple weeks trial and then the usher board and the old mothers of the church and the deacons. No, that is a black thing.
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My, my mom was on ours. Yeah.
A
So we were in that, we were in that span of time where we were going through different pastors and giving everybody they little moment to go. Right. And it had been one pastor was. Everyone really liked him. He was, he was a member of the church. He was on the deacon board. His wife was the choir director. It made so much sense, right. And he was really good. He, one of the best things about him was he was a really quick preacher. If you know, you know, we was like, oh yeah baby. We be out in time. Like yes. So everybody wanted him to be the pastor and he, we was honest like prepping to like make him the pastor. Baby. One time, maybe one time he got his ass up on that pool. He said, I can't lie church. I, I, I've, I've made some mistakes and I cannot in good faith be the pastor of your church. I must be honest.
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me and my wife are getting a divorce. We have been living separately. She's sitting up there like this after she didn't just finish doing a quadric.
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Like it's like she didn't, like she didn't Know he was gonna do it.
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She did not. She had no idea he was going to do this.
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Bro, I'm crying, baby, when I tell
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you, everybody living the church, like I kid you not, after that church service, we, you know, we messy. Me and my family, we're messy. So we're going. Oh, what you think happen? I mean, he cheated. I already know. Come on, what y'.
B
All.
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What y' all think when I tell you this, man, they got divorced and he got remarried to a white woman in less than six months. He's still married to her, too.
B
Sounds like it was his soulmate. If they still married.
A
I said, oh, that right there. Oh, I love church business.
B
Yeah. Like, it gets used to be fun. It gets. It gets intense. It gets intense.
A
White churches. Do y' all have a kitchen in the back?
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Well, yeah, because they eat snacks at church, too, so I would think they do have a kitchen. You need a kitchen.
A
No, they don't.
B
You need a kitchen. They don't. They have to have fellowship halls, and in the fellowship hall, there's a kitchen.
A
White people do not have fellowship halls.
B
Is that.
A
They just got. They just got pews.
B
Pew, pew, pew.
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White churches don't got fellowship halls because they don't fellowship because they're not community based. They don't got no mother in the back cooking up some greens.
B
You know, it'll be my favorite thing. Our youth ministry would do a store every fourth Sunday after you, like after for youth Sunday. So it'll be hella candy. And you could buy after church so that we'd have money to do.
A
Somebody said, yes, but it's not used. It holds the Starbucks. See what I'm talking about?
B
Oh, the.
A
Is you talking about coffee bars? No, they order a Little Caesars.
B
Oh, coffee bars. That's interesting.
A
Yeah, that's very Caucasian.
B
That's interesting. I've never heard of it.
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Very Caucasian. One thing about it, bruh, it was like, if there's. If we go with the standard, there's four Sundays in a month, right? Three out of the four. You can guarantee there was food in the back.
B
Yeah,
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because there was always something going on. Like we said, it was always past anniversary, church anniversary, Women's Day, Men's day, double service, revival, all of the things. And so they would be. Girl, when I would walk in there and I would smell that chicken. Oh, thank God, because I'm hungry already walking. Ah, God damn it. Yes.
B
Little. You know.
A
Yes.
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Basement kitchen. Depending on where you're from. In California, we don't have basements. So the fellowship halls are. You have your church, and the fellowship halls are usually behind the church or on the side of church. You feel me?
A
But when I moved, I do know
B
that the church is more so on the east coast, not in this area. Do the basement. Do the basement fellowship hall. Yes, I'm aware. Then you decorate the fellowship hall to go with whatever color we've picked for women's Sunday. Mother's Sunday, you know, so if everyone's wearing red and the choir, the church is wearing red, they would put red streamers and whatnot up in the fellowship hall, make it look nice and pretty.
A
I love when it'll be like women's. I'm gonna do it. This is. I'm gonna do a reenactment of exactly how choir rehearsal would go the week before Women's Day. Okay? This is my reenactment. Next week is Women's Day. What we gonna wear? Can we wear white? We're not wearing white. It's not first Sunday. Okay? We're not wearing white. It's not first Sunday.
B
Can we wear purple?
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Can we wear yellow? We're not. We're not wearing yellow because we wore yellow last Women's Day. We're gonna wear red, okay? We're gonna do red. If you don't have red, ask somebody for red. Okay? Anybody know what songs they want to sing? I already got a couple that we're gonna do. We're not doing total praise, so don't ask.
B
Why aren't we doing total praise?
A
We don't have enough sopranos.
B
No fair.
A
I'm thinking we do. I'm thinking we do every praise, okay? We're gonna do every praise. We're gonna also have the praise team out there to. To get things started. We're not gonna have the deacons do altar call because we don't have time for that.
B
And.
A
And it's Women's Day, so we're gonna have all women's.
B
What about now? Behold the Lamb.
A
I knew you was gonna say that for them. We're gonna say that for the Christmas program.
B
Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Thank you.
A
Make sure you wear your red. We're gonna do a procession, okay? What we're gonna do is we're gonna have the doors of the church open right when it's time for the quiet hour. We're gonna do I through the aisle, okay? And then when you get to the front, we're gonna alternate, y'. All. You go this way. You go this way. We're gonna alternate till we all get up on that, on that pew. Okay. Thank you. Mother Mary says she's gonna. She's gonna. She's gonna cook a little something. So make sure everybody bring. Bring what they need for the kitchen for the fellowship hall. We gonna, we gonna go right after the program after pastor get done after with the. After the Benedict, Pastor's gonna open the doors of the church. We go the food. I do need somebody to pray. Thank you. I think that the mothers of the church truly enjoyed facilitating things. It would be nothing to facilitate, but the act of the facilitation. It just route. They just got so excited about organizing stuff. We ain't doing that. Telling people no was their favorite thing to do.
B
You also got to remember a lot of them were like retired. So this was their socialization. This was like they took it serious. Yeah.
A
Only thing they had.
B
So it was a very serious business for them. It wasn't a game.
A
Very serious business.
B
As a victim of the Junior Usher board,
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I never want to be no Usher.
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I. I didn't last long, I'll say that much. I hated it because it's like you got. I gotta stand up the whole time. But then there would be the part where pastor would start preaching where they would let us sit down. And then it was like I would always get so bored and start looking down. It was just bad. And then we would have to walk up and then my legs would get tired and then we had to hold the things and my arms would get tired. And then they used to. It was just so much. But what I will. But what I will say what I. And the only reason I wanted to join Junior Usher board was because we are soldiers and this is, this is how this is so black. That hard ass turn in the army. We have to fight oh, and then someone has to catch the O for the adlib.
A
Oh, although we have to try we
B
have to hold we have to hold up the. Yo, I used to be hitting the fuck out that turn the blood stained banner.
A
Why does that sound like the Alpha Kappa Alpha song?
B
Well, I ain't no Alpha Kappa Alpha but I was a junior, Junior Usher. We have to hold it up until we die. Oh, we are soldiers in the army we have to fight oh although we have to cry we have to hold we have to hold up the blood stained banner. We have to hold it up until we die.
A
You never heard that? I've heard that.
B
Well, let me tell.
A
And they took it from the church. Which I was about to say. They took it from the church. Yo, that has me screaming I've never heard that before outside of the hell y' all gaga. And that's why.
B
That's why them GDIs be. What is it, Nelson? Cause y' all overlapping.
A
Somebody said, let me find out. That's where the AKA hook up for. No, I'm crying, bro. That's funny.
B
Yeah. No, on a. Dead. On. On dead homies. Dead homies. It really might be because that's like an old church hymn.
A
It probably is.
B
Shit. Well, the more you know,
A
I'm crying. That's funny as. Bro. I'm screaming. Damn. I was about to say something, too. I can't remember. My train of thought is, has someone
B
said we need to bring back church hats? I believe the same.
A
Bring it back. Wear one, Come see.
B
I believe the same. I think you have to be a certain age to wear train. I'm not quite. And also, I think the requirement is you either have to be 35 plus and. Or a mother. I don't know why I've decided that in my head. But church hats, especially since we're in a day and age where hats in general, because remember, like, obviously in our grandmother's days, everyone wore hats. Everyone doesn't necessarily wear hats now. And when you see hats, it's always on older people. So for me, it's like. And even when I was growing up, young people didn't necessarily. Like, even younger women in their 30s didn't really wear church hats unless they were, like, the pastor's wife. There was, like, a station in life you were in that went with the church hat. The church hat gives like, you're. You have authority in some way.
A
That's a slave hymn. It probably is. You know, us autumn hymns, where they come from.
B
You know, someone said that's my favorite Usher song. Mecca. Thank you. Because it's an Usher song. It's an Usher song.
A
Funny. Listen. Well, I definitely never wanted to be Usher. I actually hated Ushers. They were always mean, and you know what I'm saying? It's just like, bro, they just. Ushers always took their jobs a little too seriously for my liking. And they be sitting up there like, don't, don't. And don't come late to church, bitch. The Usher holding that door like this. They praying. Come on, sit down. Damn, bitch. God. For like, all right. They hold that door, like, because you
B
can't walk in while someone is praying.
A
It was just the manner in which they would do it. You know, I told you them old blacks love to say no, not right. Wait.
B
Yeah. The new ushers aren't aggressive enough for me. I'll be honest with you. I.
A
They still got ushers in these new. In these newfound.
B
A lot of them don't, but the
A
ones that do they still wear the Usher uniform.
B
Do they still wear the gloves at Wheeler? They have a uniform. They don't wear gloves, though. They just wear a little blazer.
A
See what happens. All these. All these non denominational. We are not black churches. We are for everybody. See, they losing recipes. Ain't got no Usher uniform. They ain't got no white gloves. They not walking around with their hand behind their back. They're not walking around mean and stern, mean and surly.
B
Shout out to kingdom Come.
A
Is that.
B
That's not a niche black film? I feel like Kingdom Comes, it's kind of niche.
A
Is it niche, niche, Is it? I would say niche black. I don't think every black has seen Kingdom Come.
B
Take me now.
A
Great movie, but. Great movie. But I don't think that everybody has seen it for sure. I've never met a sweet Usher. Never in my goddamn life, bro. Ushers were meant to be, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Well, one of my favorite things growing up too was, Was. Was when it was time for offerings and we would. There was different. There was two different styles. So when I went to a larger church, they would. The ushers would come and pass the collection plate to you. But when I was at this smaller local church, baby, you gets up and you walk your ass up to that thing where they got the two. The two deacons right there.
B
And that was my fashion show. That was.
A
Girl, can I say, as I was in high school, when I used to think I was thick, baby, I used to walk up to that, that. That offering play like.
B
And then don't let the boy who you think is cute be there that Sunday. Oh. Oh, fuck yeah. My back is poked. You ain't gonna tell me nothing, girl.
A
Bow now. Bow. Bow. There was this lady who used to go to our church. She was really thick. We used to actually call her tight dress because she would always wear a tight dress to church. And you. Every time it was time for offering, them deacons would stare at that fat ass. Every time she was going, hey, I used to stare too. Like, damn, cuz she would be. And drop her little change in there.
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Maybe I ain't want. I ain't have nothing. Let me put a quarter. That's why I just need to be seen. Exactly. Well, let's spin it. All right, guys, this is our segment. Spin it now. It's where y' all send y' all nasty low down gutter snipe situations in for Jamila and I to give some advice and a bit of a PR spin. Now keep in mind, Jamila and I are not PR professionals. We just study communications in undergrad and we really like talking about it. Email@unhingedanimoralpod Gmail.com don't forget to send your name, your age, your sexual orientation, your political affiliations, and if you're a man, please send your height. Jamila, what do we have this week?
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Okay, now again, another disclaimer. Guys, some of these spinets were sent a long time ago, so the advice we give may have expired. However, understand that, you know, we're just trying to catch up and things like that and we still want to get to all of them. Like we want to do our best to actually read all of them. So. And I'm trying to go backwards, like trying to go from the latest, the earliest, you know what I'm saying? Just to kind of make sure I don't miss anything. So anyways, this was sent in March just FYI because I don't know if they're going to say anything like timely. Anyways, let's get to it. Hey ladies, I need your help real bad. But first I want to express my gratitude for your podcast. I've been tuning in to both of your Tik Tok accounts. I would listen to them like a pod, so best believe I'm truly I'm fully tuned in to Unhinged Immoral every week. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm turning 28 next week, so happy birthday to you because you are 29, right? Happy, happy birthday again.
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Again.
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I'm at a point in my life where everything finally feels balanced. Career, friends, faith, my little cousins live with me now, so shout out to Mecca for coining the term Muzzin. Everything feels balanced except for my dating life. I was in a relationship from two 2021 to 2023, but have been dealing with my ex on and off up until a few months ago. I ran into this guy who I knew through mutual friends. He's black East African specifically at a bar in Augusta and he ended up asking me on a date in the past six months since then exhibited some controlling behaviors, getting mad that I wore my old Hooters uniform as my Halloween costume. Doesn't like me going out even though I don't go out often, not wanting me to take an opportunity to make extra money as a brand ambassador for All Star Weekend and said I should ask him for money instead make a joke about me finding another on a work trip. Etc wouldn't speak to me for days. Come back and apologize and we'll give flowers. Then cycle starts over again. I've dealt with it because he's consistently kind of sends me gifts, flowers all the time and he's gotten better communicating and honestly, I've just gotten comfortable with him. But I'm starting to realize that this situation isn't right for me and I'm losing interest, mind you. We've been dating for six months and he has not asked me to be his girlfriend, but we're technically exclusive. He's clearly head over heels for me and has made it clear he doesn't see his life without me in it. We planned a weekend trip to Arizona months ago for my birthday coming up Aries gang. But I'm beginning to feel hesitant and thinking about backing out of the trip. He came over the other day and instantly I instantly did not feel the same chemistry that I felt before and low key got the ick. Do I go on this trip for my birthday for the vibes or do I break it off for good? And if I break it off with him, how do I spend it? I appreciate Yalls input and perspective to help me spend this. Thanks a ton. Well, considering this was almost a year ago, I would hope that you're no longer dealing with your East African prince
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and I hope you didn't go on the birthday trip.
A
But with all that in mind,
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I do want to put a disclaimer out here. I think that your culture does not make you controlling, but your culture can have an influence on you being controlling. And I think sometimes when we as American women date or American men just date people who are not from America, the cultural standards are very different. And so as someone who has East African people in my family and I know how those men carry themselves in terms of I'm badly man head of the household. You know, like that is from what I've seen, I can't speak for everyone in my family. That is a. I would say that's on par. I I would say that is sounds like that. With that being said, I don't think you should be with no who not gonna let you do you if you not gonna disrespect him if you wearing your Hooters costume for Halloween. You don't want me to wear it. Who do that type of take? You need to change boy you like. I don't even play like that. So off the strength of that alone, I'd have left the alone, but you followed up with multiple examples. My concern would be is, is that going to escalate? Because I do think that there are signs and obviously we're never victim blaming, but we as women especially, and even men, because men experience domestic violence as well, have the tendency to downplay red flags when they are blaring in our face. And some shit is only going to escalate. And if someone needs to have that much control over you and what you're doing and where you go and why don't you ask me for money? That's making you dependent on him. That's. That's overall and the fact that he's East African, if any man did that, I would say I'm concerned and I think you should leave that alone. So PR spent how to break up with him? Well, babe, this is where you gaslight Gatekeep girl. Boss, you haven't made me your girlfriend. It's been six months. I would use the fact that he was African against him. Because one thing, one thing about it, them boys are taught, you know, you lock in, you settle down, you get married. There is an end goal to this shit. So I would just say you, you shit. You say you so traditional. You been stringing me along for six months. You clearly not serious about me. And so I can't. I no longer have the time and. And the capacity to wait around for you. I would gaslight the out that.
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Okay, so I'm operating as if you sent this letter yesterday, right? Obviously. But I really hope that you listen to this because I genuinely want an update of all the things since this has happened, since it's been so long. Like, I really want to know all the things that has happened since because I know some things happen. Things happen, and I know one of those things.
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All right, so.
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All right, so let's get to the meat of potatoes. For me personally, I do not play with controlling men, period. And this comes from experiencing controlling men. You show me one instance of you trying to control me in any way and I'm out of there. I do not like and I do not ascribe to very, very overly traditional roles. So that's also something to keep in mind. If you do, that's on you. And that's a personal decision. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm saying I do not ascribe to very traditional gender roles. Me personally. So some of the things you were saying, I'm instantly like, oh, fuck that nigga. Like, who is you talking To I don't do that. I don't do that. Now, if you are a very, very, very traditional lady giving very much. Nara Smith, maybe you like your nick of picking out your outfits then, do you? But it don't sound like you like that because you would have never bought it as an issue. Do so. Case in point. A lot of the times what we will do as women is we will accept certain things because we feel like other things are still good and we just want the man. We just want to be off the market. But those small things that you're letting go is actually big things, right? Because it's. It's showing a part of his character that is not compatible with you as a person. And so over time that is going to continuously knock down and crack at the foundation of Yalls relationship and is going to end very badly. I'm not saying it's necessarily going to result in an abusive, whether that be physical, emotional relationship, but it's absolutely going to result in a fucking horrible, miserable relationship because you're going to feel like you're. You're just. Just constricted, right? And there's no room for freedom. Now as far as what you do, as far as what you could do if you want to have your cake and eat it too, is get you another. I don't know why we have to say that every goddamn week. I know that y' all are quote unquote exclusive, but that's not.
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You're not his girlfriend.
A
Listen to me and listen to me clearly. If that's not your. It's not your nigga, which means you are not in a relationship, which means you're single, which means you can talk to whomever you want to. And I guarantee that that is doing the same. I put. I promise you the who are overly controlling before you get in a relationship and then try to say you're exclusive but you're not in relationship are the. The exact. That have on the side. They're the exact that got on the side. So what I say to you is absolutely going that goddamn birthday trip and make that spend every goddamn dime. Since he want to be so traditional. Since he want to be the one talking about something. Yeah, you should ask me for money. Well, ask that for some money then if that's what you want to do. And while you do that, I got me a nice ass on the side who also got that nice, nice ass dick too. Just to keep you humble. Just to keep. Just to keep you level. Sometimes you got to keep. Sometimes you got to Remember that there's other on the side, right? But I do think that eventually you need to leave that alone because, like, that's not your man. Like that's not gonna be your husband. Because if it was, you would have never wrote us this letter.
B
It's not your husband.
A
And this is for everybody listening. The moment you think you gotta write a letter to anybody, whether that be us, whether that be Dr. Cheyenne, whether that be. What was that name? Who was doing all that relationship.
B
Oh, Kevin.
A
Kevin Samuels. The moment you think you got to start asking questions about your relationship, like, should I leave him? The answer is yes. Probably. Probably. Unless you're the problem, which at that
B
point,
A
you know, I mean.
B
But I support women's rights and wrong. So, you know, yeah, I say go
A
on the birthday trip, have a good time. Because it's like, okay, you still wanted me to take. You wanted to take me out on this birthday trip. Who am I to deny myself of a good time for my birthday? Why would I do that? And explore your options. And sometimes you gotta check a too. Cuz sometimes are just doing because they think they can.
B
That's real.
A
Sometimes are just pushing their boundaries. Never be afraid to. And if you are afraid, then that's a whole other conversation and you shouldn't
B
go on the trip.
A
But never be afraid, right? Never be afraid to tell the. Hey, I don't like that. And it doesn't have to be a confrontation. It doesn't have to be like this huge argument. Like say if a. I don't know, like for example, let's use the Hooters outfit or whatever. Say he like, oh, no, I don't want you. Hey, I'm gonna tell you this right now because you know, we're still getting to know each other, so I understand we don't really know all the things, but I don't like for people to tell me what I can and cannot do, especially as it relates to my bodily autonomy. So no, if that's something that you think you're gonna continue to do, I can let you know this right now. That's not gonna work for me. But I respect how you come and if that's how you're gonna come, I promise you there's a lady out there who likes that. I promise I'm not one of them.
B
It is, I promise you. She got me though.
A
Because believe it or not, believe it or not, there are bitches out there who absolutely like for their to tell
B
them what to do a lot. Not me, but there are a lot. And I'm sure you won't have no problem finding them. My East African king.
A
Get out of it. I. That's. That really. That's not really my. That's not really my tea. I don't. Nah, that's not. That's. That's not what I'm doing. But you know what I'm saying, it's. It's some ladies out there that really enjoy that and so good for them. I'm not one of them, though.
B
Nickel and that. And you could say that and be done with it. You ain't got to say nothing crazy. Just say, no, ma'. Am. No, sir.
A
And the thing that be happening is, like, sometimes will say something, and we just kind of kiki it away. Like, you be thinking. Be playing, and they be dead ass. Like, where you going with that? On?
B
I was gonna say me to the club, to the bar, to the spot.
A
Ito, let me tell you what you should be hearing. Okay? Wow. You look so good.
B
Yeah.
A
Let me see. Hold on. Let me. I like the way you. I like the way you put that with that.
B
That looks really good.
A
You look really nice. And the thing is, I don't necessarily mind a man giving me input about what I'm wearing, but not in the sense of trying to tell me what to wear based off of purity. I don't like that because I. I have a. A guy that I've talked to who's. Who likes fashion or whatever, right? It's like, oh, like, this is my outfit. Oh, like, you know, I don't know what shoes were. You know, something like that. Like, that's completely different. I think that that's cool because that shows a level of interest, because now you're being very attentive to me and, like, you really want to see me win, right? Not versus. You want me to just cover up because you feel like you. You own me.
B
You.
A
This is my titties. This is my titties.
B
Yeah. And if you was.
A
If you was Ms. Hooter before you met the. You gonna be Ms. Hooter after.
B
Don't let that change you.
A
Why do y' all be. Why do y' all be changing up? Never mind.
B
Well, you know why they be changing up. But we're not. We're not going to get into all that because we already had an hour and six. That's gonna be another hour.
A
I already told you, I'm not a relationship expert.
B
I'm really not at all, y'. All.
A
I just think that I have. And I'm saying some things. I Just agree with some things I don't. You know what I mean? And that is one thing that I do not agree with. And even when I was in a very controlling relationship and a did try to tell me what to wear and what not to wear, I never actually did it.
B
You was just disobedient.
A
Like, gonna have to yell at me. I'm wearing what the I want to wear.
B
Like, and.
A
And you know what it is, though? You know what that also comes from for me specifically? I did not experience that growing up from my parents. So what the makes you think I'm gonna experience that from a. My parents were not overly controlling about what I wore, and I was a little fast. When I say a little fast now, pause. Pause right there. I can call myself fast. We do not need to be calling other little girls fast for no reason. I am using it in a very colloquial way to describe myself as a kiki. Don't get too excited. Anyways, I was fast, so I like to wear short shorts. I wanted to wear crop tops. I. I wanted to do the things. And while I'm sure my parents may have been uncomfortable here, and they're kind of just like bitches really doing too much, they did not overly police my outfits in that way. And they kind of just let me express myself. Now, granted, I definitely think there were limits. Like, I. There were limits, and I knew the limits. Yeah, I knew my parents, okay? I knew good and goddamn well I wasn't walking out titties out. You know what I'm saying? Like, literally, because, you know, there was still a level of childness that I had to adhere to. Because at the end of the day, as grown as I was trying to act, I knew that I was a child, and I knew the child that my parents were raising. And one thing my parents were very, very adamant about was, you gonna be a child. And high school is still a child, right? But as you get older, you there, it changes. The way that I was dressing in high school is not the way I was dressing in elementary school. This is what it is, right? And so because of that, I think it allowed a lot of, like, expressive freedom for how I wanted to present myself. And so I think that that also kind of plays into why I'm so very adamant about a not telling me what to wear, because it's like, I didn't experience that from my parents. Like, what do you mean? Don't wear this dress. Cause it's too short. My not out. Like,
B
and if it was, you know, someone should say. I was 14 when Uncle Luke and the 2 Live crew came through. The streets were on fire. Oh, you shout out to the star child so fast, right Fast. Listen, I was. I was.
A
We was. We was at the middle school.
B
Dancers throwing butts, child. Just musty and hot and throwing butt, girl. So to lose my breath by just these childs, you know, it is what it is. We have to experience these things for ourselves as kids. But within limits. Like Jamila said, you know, there are limits. You don't let children be in the place of adults. But sometimes if you go to school and then you roll your shirt up at school, you don't necessarily do it in front of me. I'm okay with that. I think the funniest thing. One of the funniest things Little Moms ever did was I could tell when she got home, her shirt had been
A
rolled up all day.
B
Because it had that crinkle. Had that crinkle. But you see how she was up there showing belly. But you see how when she got home, when I got to her, it
A
had been pulled down.
B
And I just said, the kid is all right, you know, all right now. But at school, she had had that thing rolled up to the back. Cause it was our thing. And she had the extra little scrunchie on her hand. I was just. I was just observing all the things. I said, oh, the kids are all right. All right now. And I think that's what. That's what it's about.
A
You have boundaries with your parents, but you got it.
B
Or as a child. Well, do we have any church announcements? Actually, let me just say this.
A
The.
B
The live chat has been delightful. I love this. This is our first episode with a live chat. This is for our Patreon subscribers, so we can try and involve y' all in the episode and get y' all over to our Patreon. And I gotta say, Yalls input on this episode has been so fun. Thank you so much for everyone who's been in here chatting with us. And it's also, like, y' all get the episode so far before y'. All. Y' all schedule will be so far before everybody else's. Because you think we record on Mondays. So next. So, like, next Monday, whatever. Whatever. These still on the Thursday you on the whole next. Yeah, yeah.
A
Like you. You locked in with this. Yeah, this was real. I'm glad we figured it out. Like, it's. And it's so easy. It's not even something that's, like, super, super difficult or hard to maintain. I'M I'm. I'm think, well, we may add some tweaks here and there just as we kind of, like, really learn the process of this. But I think, honestly, this went very well. This is really just like, like a trial error. And I really enjoyed it, especially since we were kind of talking about, like, very specific stuff as far as, like, your favorite blah, blah, blah, like, having you guys add your thoughts in there, too. Like that, that's really been fun. But yeah, we definitely want to continue to do this and it'll be so right now, of course, we went live via YouTube, so I do think that anyone who has subscribed to our YouTube channel may have gotten, like, a notification, because I know sometimes, especially if you have your push notifications on, it'll let you know, like, somebody's going live. So some of these people, some of y' all in here may be Patreon members, and some of y' all might be coming straight from the YouTube. Actually, let me know which of y', all, 97 of y' all who are watching currently, which is pretty big number. I did not expect this many of y' all to be on here. Are y' all coming straight from YouTube? How did y' all see that we were live? Did y' all see it via the Patreon? Did y' all see it via YouTube? Were you on our Tick Tock Live earlier? Let us know. We're trying to get a little market research. Yeah, market Reese.
B
But nonetheless, thank you for watching. This was so, like, I'm excited for future episodes because this is such a good addition. And shout out to Arya. She's been in the background, kind of little research assistant tease, you know, coming in with some facts. So, yes, don't forget to subscribe to our Patreon $8 a month. What else do we have coming up? Oh, we keep saying this, but we're actually planning. Okay, so they're saying they saw it from YouTube. Then we have some Patreon members. Okay, so it seemed mostly YouTube, but Patreon in there as well. You guys, we are in the process of planning a live show which is super, super duper exciting. So stay tuned for those dates. I know. I feel like we've been saying that for so long, but we're actually planning it this time.
A
Yes, we have the. Y' all just don't even know. There's so much has happened occur that has went into why our live show getting pushed back. But I think, you know, everything happens for a reason. So I'm not mad at It. But, yeah, we're. We're in the process of planning the live show. It will be in Atlanta. We can tell you that. Of course, we would love to do a tour, but you got to do one show first to do many. You know what I'm saying? So it's just. It's a. It's a process for us.
B
And, yeah, someone said different levels of Patreon.
A
Y' all take food stamps. I wish we did, but we do take $8. I wish we did. It's just $8.
B
The.
A
And so I. I see that a lot of y' all came from YouTube, which is great. I will say, moving forward, it may only be accessible through Patreon. We are trying to figure that out. The reason being. And I don't want y' all to feel like we're trying to, like, shut y' all out. Of course, this was a test run. Just trying to see how it works. And I see your question by my birthday. I'll get to that in a second. But Patreon is. It's an exclusive platform that we have specifically for our screw crew. So it's twofold. For one, we want to give you guys all the early and exclusive content. You know, the worst. You know, I want your $8 to be worth it for one, but for two, for us, it is how we pay staff, but it's also how we can help do this live show, how we also pay ourselves. Spoiler alert. Podcasting does not pay in the way that you think it pays. And so we do have to pull profit from this. We work. We do this full time. I know I do this full time. And so we do need to pull profit from some places, so we just want to be transparent in. In for where money is going. I know a lot of people don't feel like. You may not even feel like that's necessary, but I feel like for us, we do want to have a level of transparency. So you guys understand, like, yeah, we. It take money to make money, basically. So we're just trying to do that. And. But of course, if you don't have it, it's cool. You can always Watch us on YouTube for free every Thursday or wherever else you get your podcast. But if you want that exclusive content, if you want to be a part of the live chat, if you want to do that, it is $8 a month. But it. You're. You're gonna get your $8 worth. That I can guarantee. Like, digital watch. That I guarantee. I guarantee it.
B
And we also have different series. We have Our sidebar series, which is where we sit down and interview fellow content creators across social platforms. We have our obvious live chat now. And then we also have our screwballs, our screw use. That's kind of like akin to Donkey of the Day, where we cuss out a person place our thing that we're not feeling in that particular moment in time. And we also have our slumber party series, which Jamila and I say for when we're in person. The only time Jamila acts like she has a vagina and we like to get a little bit. It gets a little bit freaky in there, I'll say that much. Just a little back.
A
To answer your question about my birthday celebration subject, I actually. I actually am supposed to be having a call today, I believe, to talk with everybody. My. My planning committee, or the beginning of what could be my planning committee for my birthday celebration, which will be on my actual birthday. My birthday is on a Saturday this year because I am. What, blessed? Yes. Turning 30 on May 30, 2026. I am planning a huge, big shebang. I don't really have any details other than that as far as, like, the date, but I am supposed to be talking to them today, and hopefully things are, you know, easy peasy lemon squeezy. But I do want it to. I want it to be, you know what I'm saying, to be very fun. Yeah. I'm supposed to start my interviews this week for my Journey to 30 series, which will be on my YouTube sidebar. Make sure you guys go check out my YouTube. I just dropped a interview with Congressman Greg Landsman. It was really, really good. And I also have my part one to my breast augmentation journey. The consultation has dropped as well, so make sure y' all are subscribed to the YouTube.
B
Hey, yo, I was on the YouTube had my little nephew trying to find blues clues Then I seen something about a new loyal rap Told him hold tight I just had to click that Then I'm like what? My must got a virus this is not a rat this is Miley Cyrus Must be something wrong Cause the beat keep on playing but she on the second verse still not saying so I'm like oh my acting right? It's just this simply not rapping right
A
See I was laying low, y' all
B
I was on my trap putting it off I get back to the rap Imma let it Someone hit him with that fire But I ain't know the need was his die I ain't know y' all was listening to these Faking ass birds and I know they was making up words and but it's cool Rolling out the black truck we riding our first stop gonna be fat slip five star tell them Keys is the ground seat the rap game is hungry Tell them that I'm calories, I'm stealing that these straight chickens is allergy I don't get gifts nigga put me on the salary who was gonna pop off, go hard not so I use the last mixtape to write my knee snot off I am an infection how you gonna stop it?
A
I'm all up in your bloodstream no
B
antibiotics they like Keith, stop it I'm like no pop swagger is galactic and I' ma need a rocket if want to respond and I think they shouldn't I'm out of breath so I can't finish it but shout out to Keys she was the first to eat Nicki Minaj in Baltimore Somebody might need to
A
call her back in the jacket with the bang yeah, this the way this bitch is literally out of breath.
B
I don't know how she was going for so long. It's just. It requires so much energy. All right, y', all, see you next week. Thank you so much to the chat.
A
See you guys next week. Bye.
C
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Hosts: Jamila Bell ("J"/"A") & Mecca Evans ("B")
Date: February 19, 2026
Producer: Diamond MPrint Productions
Theme: Celebrating Black History—and Black culture, community, and church life—with a hilarious, unfiltered deep dive into niche Black films, nostalgic Black church traditions, hilarious anecdotes, and listener Q&A.
This episode kicks off a new era for Unhinged & Immoral: live-streaming their iconic, chaotic Monday morning podcast tapings to Patreon ("Screw Crew") and YouTube. Riding the energy of Black History Month, Jamila and Mecca trade stories on the culture-defining, under-appreciated gems of Black cinema, church rituals that only Black folks could relate to, and how certain "blackest" habits show up in everyday life. A lively chat from their live audience keeps things interactive—prompting both deep commentary and uncontrollable laughter.
The back half is an "Unhinged Spin It" segment, where the hosts respond to a listener’s relationship dilemma with signature tough love and comedic flair, closing with plans for the show's future (live shows! new Patreon bonuses!) and a playful rap outro.
00:54 – 03:01
03:09 – 17:23
“Black History Month—what did Bobby Brown say? Why they gave us the shortest month? It should be Black History Year.”
—Jamila (17:23)
18:48 – 26:31
33:06 – 55:18
33:06 – 34:41
56:04 – 69:18
A listener, “turning 28,” writes in about her situationship with a controlling man (East African, but the hosts note “culture does not make you controlling”); he hasn’t made her his girlfriend after six months, discourages her from working or going out, and she feels “the ick.” She asks if she should still take a birthday trip with him or break it off.
“Why do y’all be changing up? Never mind.”
—Jamila, on women altering their behavior for men (68:56)
73:24 – End
“We do this full-time…It takes money to make money.”
—Jamila, on why Patreon matters (77:02)