Dev The Menace is Unhinhed

Summary

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Unhinged & Immoral

Episode: Dev The Menace is Unhinged
Date: January 6, 2026
Hosts: Jamila Bell & Mecca Evans
Guest: Dev (Dev The Menace)
Production: Diamond MPrint Productions

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Episode Overview

This episode of Unhinged & Immoral dives into the intersection of viral internet culture, the Black dance experience, ADHD and mental health, and the messiness of TikTok drama and modern pop culture. Joined by Dev The Menace, a celebrated TikTok creator and dancer straight out of North Carolina, hosts Mecca and Jamila embark on a hilarious, candid, and sometimes poignant journey through stories of virality, microaggressions, community support, mental health, and the foundational value of Black culture in online and IRL spaces.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Meet Dev The Menace: TikTok Roots & Relatability

• Early TikTok Days: Dev shares stories about his first viral success, starting during the COVID era and growing after, with his trademark comedic, relatable dance content.
  • Notable Quote: "I've been doing this since when TikTok first became COVID ... didn't go big till 2021, 2022." (02:03, Dev)
• Relatable Vibes: Hosts recount sharing Dev’s videos in their family group chats, citing him as “the cousin in our head”—a testament to his cultural resonance.
  • Quote: "He acts just like us ... this is our cousin in our head." (02:30, Jamila)

2. Cultural Significance and Microaggressions in Dance

• Dance Studio Experiences: Dev discussed his classical dance training, switching studios, and being the only Black member in largely white spaces.
  • Microaggressions & Racism: Both Dev and Mecca detailed subtle and overt racism, from comments about hair and athleticism to being the center of attention at competitions.
    • Quote: "People don't understand racism in the dance community exists. Oh, it exists." (13:45, Dev)
• Desire for Inclusive Spaces: Inspired to found an affordable studio for Black (and marginalized) youth—the need for cost-accessible, culturally affirming dance education is underscored.
  • Quote: "I always wanted to open a dance studio dedicated to the kids of the hood that can't afford ... tuition." (18:23, Dev)

3. ADHD, Mental Health, and the Black Experience

• ADHD Journeys: All three share stories of diagnosis, stigma, and experimenting with or rejecting medication. Humor and authenticity shine in discussing family reactions and coping strategies.
  • Quote: "I still be raw dogging ADHD. I ain’t been on that medication ... gonna take away what makes me me." (05:00, Jamila)
• Managing Creativity & Life: Each describes systems for managing distraction—notes apps, one-take videos, and accepting the need for focus only on what matters.
  • Communal Therapy: There’s consensus on therapy as survival in an always-on digital space.
    • Quote: "Therapy and staying out the way. That’s it." (54:11, Dev)

4. TikTok, Virality, and Internet “Mess”

• Virality & Credit: Dev reveals his conflicted feelings about the dance that made him famous—grateful for opportunities but resentful of the lack of initial credit and the pressure to repeat content for popularity.
  • Quote: "I just hate to say that because everybody loves that dance. I just hate that dance." (12:25, Dev)
• TikTok Drama: The group reflects on messy moments—false narratives, breakups within creator circles, and people policing Black creators' friendships.
  • Quote: "Devin needs to get away from them ... He has not gotten away from us. Sorry, I can't." (28:07-28:11, Mecca & Dev)
• Community and Fame: Adjustment to recognition, trolls, and maintaining boundaries while navigating real friendships in online creator spaces.
  • Quote: "People be treating us like we these big time, big celebrities and ... I don’t have no security." (56:17, Dev)

5. Racial Identity, Diaspora Wars, and White Supremacy

• Diaspora vs. TikTok Reality: Engaged dialogue on the so-called “diaspora wars” within Black online spaces—contrasted with actual harmony in offline Black communities (notably HBCUs).
  • Quote: "We lose a sense of community ... when you cling on to an identity that you created ... out of opposition." (34:00-34:20, Jamila)
• Media Propaganda & Representation: Dissection of how white supremacy underpins both the separation in global Black communities and narratives around poverty and value.
  • Quote: "Our homeboy at Hampton from the UK ... only accent you could do is Jody from Baby Boy." (37:37, Mecca)

6. Black Family, Generational Humor, and Cultural Taboos

• Intergenerational Wit: Section full of stories about family life, old-school Black parenting, and the rituals around pets, furs, and fighting white-centric cultural norms.
  • Quote: "My mom, I literally told her ... What you mean you got the dog arthritis medicine?" (41:02, Mecca)
• Cultural Traditions: From the passing down of real fur coats to discussions on the so-called “right” and “wrong” foods, the hosts critically unpick whitewashing trends on nutrition (e.g., the attack on white rice).
  • Quote: "White rice is going to make you big ... Asian people been 100 pounds for thousands of years." (46:07, Jamila)

7. Surviving & Spinning the Mess: Listener Letter Segment (“Spin It”)

• Wild Dilemma Read (85:53-97:57): Hosts, joined by Dev, give unfiltered, real-talk advice to a listener stuck in a young, toxic relationship, prepping to join the military for a reset.
  • Iconic Quotes:
    • "That nigga has already cheated on you multiple times, and he’s trying to find a reason to break up with your ass so he cannot feel guilty that he the Abu." (89:05, Jamila)
    • "He was gonna find the first thing, it could have been your daddy ... He wants to be set free, bitch." (90:54-91:04, Jamila)
  • Outcome: Universal advice—pack it up, prioritize your future and yourself, and don’t let a boy make you fumble your security clearance or mental health.

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On ADHD & Black Families
  • "No, girl, you know diagnosis. That boy. Ain’t nothing wrong with that boy. He just a little ... on that spectrum." (04:04, Jamila & Dev)
• Regarding Credit in Dance/Virality
  • "When I first went viral, nobody was giving me my credit for that dance." (11:46, Dev)
• On Black boys, sports & masculinity
  • "Just because you have a little black boy ... you do not have to put them in football." (21:25, Dev)
  • "They want to push this level of really strong masculinity to these young boys ... have you seen male ballet?" (21:39, Jamila)
• On putting animal rights over human rights
  • "Anyone who picks up PETA as their activation of choice is extremely, extremely anti black ... putting animal rights above human rights." (39:14, Jamila)
• On virality and real life separation
  • "TikTok isn’t real. Because when you go outside, this isn’t even how folks act at all." (34:44, Mecca)
• On the messy side of content creation
  • "Content creating can make you ... a people pleaser too." (31:39, Dev)
• Advice to Black men on mental health
  • "One of the important things about being a content creator ... Black men go to therapy." (62:06, Dev)

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Episode Highlights & Memorable Segments

• ADHD as a Community Experience: Hilarious and relatable riffing on the realities of undiagnosed and sometimes untreated ADHD/adult neurodivergence in the Black community.
• The Emotional Labor of Going Viral: Raw honesty about what happens when your favorite viral internet moment becomes a personal albatross—especially when credit isn’t given.
• Dance as Social Capital and Survival: Candid insights into dance as an anchor, a safe space, and a vector for both microaggressions and liberation.
• Diaspora Unity IRL vs. Online Drama: Nuanced discussion on how anti-Blackness and media framing sow unnecessary division online, in contrast to real world cross-diaspora connection.
• No Holds Barred “Spin It” Segment: Jamila, Mecca, and Dev at their unfiltered best, dissecting a young listener’s toxic relationship and giving advice that’s blunt, logical, and empowering (“Be a whore, but I gotta tell you.” 90:47, Jamila).

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Dev’s TikTok Origin Story: 01:58–03:20
• Dance, Microaggressions & Racism: 13:40–15:02
• Credit and Burnout from Viral Moments: 11:46–13:13
• ADHD/Medication and Cultural Stigma: 03:46–10:11
• Diaspora War, White Supremacy, and HBCUs: 33:14–36:14
• Intergenerational Black Humor & Culture: 40:00–42:43
• Pets/fur coats/traditions: 43:52–44:49
• Listener Letter “Spin It” segment: 85:53–97:57

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Tone & Style

Candid, playful, incisive, and unapologetically Black and millennial—Jamila and Mecca’s rapport with Dev is warm and raucous, blending personal anecdotes with sharp cultural critique and laugh-out-loud asides.

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For Listeners New to the Show

This episode exemplifies Unhinged & Immoral’s signature style: part group chat, part cultural analysis, always deeply rooted in authentic, unfiltered Black zillenial experience. Expect big laughs, sharp insights, and advice as real as it gets.

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Transcript

[A]

She flowing in that cash talk Walk in the booth like Naomi on the cat bar and tell them from the jaguar it ain't even right though Push me and I might go she ain't getting money I'm like, what the the hype for when them bitches bite Flow make my appetite go poof, gone, voila, Magic looking mad good just to pull up on them rampant what's up, y'?

[B]

All?

[A]

Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged and Immoral. I'm your host, Jameela.

[B]

And I'm your host, Mecca.

[A]

And today we have such a special guest, somebody we've wanted for a very long time. A fellow content creator and tiktoker. Dancer.

[B]

Dancer.

[A]

Hilarious person. Ugh. This is gonna be a good hootin, hollering mess. Straight from North Carolina, we got Devin. Devin, What's up with you?

[C]

Nothing, man. In the a. Came down here to have a good time for a music fest. Came here to hang with my girls. Let's get into some things. Get into the pieces.

[A]

We're gonna get into all the pieces. You know, you were probably the first, like, creator that actually followed me.

[C]

Yeah, that was a long time ago, too.

[A]

It was with that first page they booted.

[C]

You got my page out of there.

[B]

So that's you, like, on your third page whole time?

[C]

No, well, no, I'm this one. My main account is my second one. You know, I got that backup.

[B]

Yeah, okay. That's what I'm saying.

[C]

So it's three accounts, but I've been through two.

[B]

I've been following Dev since before he followed me back. I've been following you a second because I feel like everyone who. Like all the. All the creators that I really liked started getting followers really quickly, and I was like, I don't even care if they follow me back. And I remember there was, like, a handful of people. You was one of them. I was like, he don't need to follow me back.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I just think he's funny.

[C]

And the crazy thing is, I've been doing this since when TikTok first became, like, Covid.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So I didn't get big till, like, after Covid. So, like, 2021, 2022.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's when, like, when you started doing your dance routine.

[C]

When I started. No, actually, when I started when I was living with my mama and I was recording the videos with the yellow.

[A]

Crocs tapping that shoe.

[B]

Now when you was walking.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You just woke me up.

[A]

Well, well, well.

[C]

Yeah. That was when, like, it really, really.

[A]

Started yeah, yeah, I remember.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I remember seeing your videos. And it's funny because we would send them to my group chat with my siblings, because we're like, he acts just like us. We were like, I don't know this boy, but this is our cousin in our head. Literally, before even people would say it, I'm like, why does he act just like us, bro? Like, I just know. Yeah, we would just key if we.

[C]

Were together, like, to be relatable.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like the cousin from around the way that likes to smoke weed.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Let's take a little walk.

[C]

Yeah, let's take a little walk right quick.

[B]

Also a black and mild from Time.

[C]

I'm trying to stop, though.

[B]

You know, I'm not a turkey.

[A]

Get out.

[C]

But I really. I really be wanting when I'm drunk.

[B]

Cause they sober you up. I say this all the time. They sober you up.

[A]

I want to know if there's science behind that or if that's just nigga knowledge.

[C]

I think that's just nigga knowledge. I don't think they really cause how. And it releases stuff off your stomach, too. Like, if you smoke a black and drink some Hennessy, that's hood of laxative right there.

[B]

Right there. Yeah. Cause when white people smell cigarettes, they're hipster. They're cool.

[C]

Yeah. But a black amount. You draw the line of the black amount. But you smoke a Newport 100.

[A]

Are you cool?

[B]

No, A Marlboro. Ooh, red girl stink.

[C]

Wake the cancer up.

[A]

Well, yes. Speaking of adhd.

[C]

Yes, I have. I'm a victim.

[A]

I do.

[C]

But I'm just now figured, like, five, finding out I have it. Like, I just found out I had it last year, and it kind of made sense. Like, when I go back, like, down my childhood, I'd be like, oh, the signs were there. The signs were there. My mama just didn't wanna. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to call my son stupid.

[A]

No, girl, you know diagnosis. That boy. Ain't nothing wrong with that boy. He just a little.

[C]

What? He just a little.

[A]

He just a little what? He just on that spectrum.

[C]

Yeah, he just a little on that spectrum.

[B]

Speaking of Barrington sounds similar. He don't need all damn medicine. We needed that medicine.

[C]

Yeah, I needed. I'm still. I want to get on the medicine, but I'm scared to get on the medicine.

[A]

Yes, I'm scared to get on medicine. What's crazy is when I got diagnosed, I was also working through my anxiety or whatever, and so I was like, yeah, just go ahead and get me the adhd. Meds, I'll be all right. I could thug the anxiety. That's cool. That's just a little.

[C]

Ooh, ooh.

[A]

And she was like, well, now hold on, right? We not gonna just treat the ADHD and not treat.

[C]

And I was like, well, yeah. Cause it kinda go hand in hand. Like ADHD and anxiety kinda go in hand.

[A]

And she was like, if I give you this medication to fix that ADHD and your anxiety ain't right, bitch, you gonna trip. And I'm like, oh, you gotta get.

[C]

To the crazy house. Okay, cool. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So I still be raw dogging adhd. I ain't been on that medication in so long. I just feel like it's gonna take away what makes me mean.

[B]

Yeah, like, no t. No shade. As an undiagnosed ADHD person, I haven't been formally diagnosed, but all of my professional friends have said, you got.

[A]

You got that. You do, baby.

[C]

I'll hold your hand when I say it.

[B]

I'mma hold your hand when I say it. It's giving. I have taken Adderall and I don't really whimsically. I took it in college a couple times to focus and write papers. And that's.

[A]

That's what they all say.

[B]

That's really what happened. I was like, no, it was going around and someone was like, you'll make you focus to write the paper. And I was like, okay, co. Because I was really. I've like always raw dog life. Like, I know it's going to take me 48 hours, two days to sit here and write this one and a half page paper. So I would just allocate the right amount of time for me to get shit done. But then when they were doing like, no, you don't need to do that. So it worked. The only thing that I don't like it and to your point about like having to get the right chemical balance, that should make me tired as fuck.

[C]

I heard that.

[B]

That should make me tired. And that's another reason they was like long term tired. I also don't be hungry on it. No, I don't. I get really scared.

[A]

That's the girl's secrets. Wait, you're spilling the girl's secrets. They not on that.

[B]

Exempt.

[A]

They on that Addy.

[C]

The Addy.

[A]

They crushing them up.

[B]

Shout out to Janet who's the question on the Valley. She definitely said they were like, how'd you lose so much weight? She was like, adderall.

[C]

I didn't know Adderall didn't make no. Cause it's These supposed to take it with food?

[B]

I mean. No, it's just like, what it does. It. It's a side effect. You won't have an appetite. Like, so. Even to the point where when I've taken it, I always bust them in half because when I've. I've taken hold twice and didn't eat for like two days. And I mean, like, had only reason had to eat because I was like, yeah, something's out.

[A]

I'm shaking.

[C]

What?

[B]

I haven't thought about food in 40 days. No, I had a headache. You don't even. And you be real thirsty.

[A]

That.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[C]

I. I do you get like the white stuff on the corner of your mouth?

[B]

No, it's not. It's not like, crackish. It's just like, you get. I be real focused at the top, and then I've got. I'll get like, real tired. But that's. That's it relaxing you.

[C]

That's.

[B]

That's why you have to get the right wine, the condensed.

[C]

You see, and I. Bipolar disorder medicine do that so it make you real drowsy.

[B]

And the thing. I have a cousin who's bipolar and my whole life she won't take a medicine cuz she always talks about how it makes her feel weird. She doesn't like the way the medicine makes her feel weird. And so that's why I was like. After I had done it, I was like, oh, I see what the hell she be talking about. I'm not having fun right now.

[A]

I got to fix that medication, y'. All. We got to come on now. All them side effects. Now I got fix the.

[B]

Kyle's sister just did a live on this when she. She has bad anxiety, too, and she was saying it wipes her memory out. And people will be like, bitch, you don't remember.

[C]

But that's how I am with adhd. ADHD makes me forget.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you really do be sitting there like, yo, do I want to feel normal or do I want to feel normal? It's like I. I just have a newfound perspective on why people choose not to take medicine. Because it does with, like, how you move the world.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Cause that version of normal is not normal.

[B]

It's not normal.

[C]

It's not normal.

[A]

You ain't supposed to be numb and blank. I'm supposed to be colorful and loud.

[B]

And if I have to. If I just have to do what I've been doing this whole time in terms of. Okay, I know I need to take two days out of my week to write this paper. I would rather do that than to like feel strange.

[C]

That's why in college I sucked at writing papers, because my ADHD I would get. I don't know how to stay on topic.

[A]

I'm a last minute ass bitch. One thing about it and it's like, I. To your point, I do feel like, you know, well, I'm 29.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Gone unmedicated. This entire time. I've figured out ways to manage myself in ways that make the most sense and something honestly that I've learned about myself. And I don't know if this is an ADHD thing, a Gemini thing, or a Jameela thing. Could be a combination of all three.

[B]

All three, to be honest.

[A]

But what I've noticed is I have such a better time focusing when I'm doing something that I care about. I can focus. Boots give me some shit I don't care about.

[C]

I don't care about it like that. That I'm not gonna focus.

[A]

It's not, it's not. I. I will literally forget about it.

[C]

And my ADHD messes me up with making up dance choreography too. Cause I forget it. So I. I gotta record it. Yeah. I have to record like, say if I make up something right here, right there, I forget it like two seconds. Like, damn. What I just do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's so crazy. It's like when you grow up and you start talking to people. Because one thing about me, I have stacks of notebooks. Like, I write everything down because of what you're talking about. Like, like even in my notes for like tick tock video ideas, when I see stuff I like, I'm always putting stuff.

[C]

I just started putting stuff in my.

[B]

Notes on paper because I will forget.

[A]

That tick tock idea note I got.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Then you'll be going back. Like, this idea sucks.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Mind you, I go back and be like, what the did I mean by this?

[B]

I don't know. I've had to start getting more details.

[A]

Like, you can. You have got like, it sound like I'm drunk. Like, what, bitch? Mind you sober, it's just like, yeah, Tuesday morning. What the fuck would that mean?

[C]

With me on TikTok, I have to record my videos in one take. If I do it multiple times, I keep messing up and messing up.

[B]

Messing up.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

So I have to do it all in like one take.

[B]

This is such ironic.

[A]

I'm the opposite. I kind of have to do the opposite because I talk so fast, my mind moves so fast. Next thing I'm shut up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I Have to do all you just dummy. And then I start cussing myself out. Like, girl.

[B]

I mean, that's how I text too. I put each thought together.

[C]

That's how my homegirl text she. That's how I know she has adhd. She will. She won't put everything in a paragraph.

[B]

It needs to be.

[C]

And I'm like, can you stop? Like you're over.

[A]

No. And it's like, okay, well, let me know when you're done.

[B]

And I will. I'll literally be like, give me five minutes. Let me get everything out.

[A]

Like, I need a finishing point because I'm trying to respond, okay.

[C]

Like, she talks. She talks. She type, she text. How she talk. And that's how I know she got adhd. Cause she has. She's real bad at interrupting people. People too. Like, why they talking?

[A]

We got it bad.

[C]

And I'm like, but she takes.

[B]

Just like, she interrupt your text. You be typing, you'll be typing.

[C]

She'll say something.

[A]

You'd be like, well, me then.

[B]

I can't even get you.

[A]

Yeah, let's get into that dancing, though.

[B]

It's taking you really far, friend. It's been really fun to watch how you started walking with your hand on your hip to like, doing full choreo. Something I want to ask about, though, about the dance is when you was getting your choreo, like, took and you got the credit for it.

[C]

That, and I hate to admit it. And every time I say this, people be like, oh, my God, I can't believe you said that. That's why I hate that dance. I hate that dance. I do not. Even when I get tagged in it, I hurry up and score. Cause I don't. The song gets on my nerves. Now, number two, when I first went viral, nobody was giving me my credit for that dance. Nobody. They would do it and not tag me. So I just hated it. Like, I'm like, it's. I mean, yeah, it took me far. I got to meet Debbie Allen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hello.

[C]

You know, got invited to the Alvin Ailey show.

[B]

Come on.

[C]

You know, everybody was making me videos and stuff. He was on the news, I was on the news. And my mama called me, Devin, you on Inside Edition? I'm like, I'm in Tampa. I'm like, what is going on?

[B]

And you know the oheads love Inside Edition.

[C]

They do, they do. But yeah, I just hate to say that because everybody loves that dance. I just hate that dance.

[A]

Yeah, I get that sometimes when you just are force fed so many things. I mean, we get that with, like, our own videos. Like, when somebody will come up to us, it's always. They always say something that's like, not my favorite or not my business. It's like, you know, I mean, I make content for y', all, so whatever y' all love, I have to accept it. But I think that's going to be a thing where artists be like.

[C]

I mean, I guess because, like, my girl Beyonce, she has songs she don't like, right? So she hates. Yeah, like Kaylani, she hates. If I forgot what song it is, she hates one song that she made. And I feel like that's how a lot of artists see is like, once you start. Once you start hearing stuff or doing certain stuff over and over, you just be like, okay, I don't wanna.

[A]

I'm tired of doing it.

[C]

I'm tired of doing it. That's why I haven't even made a dance video. And I don't know how long. Yeah, I just talk.

[A]

So when did you start dancing?

[C]

When I was six.

[A]

Six?

[C]

Six. All the way up till I was 18.

[A]

Come on now.

[C]

And I went to three different dance studios. So my first dance studio closed down. We had to move. We went to this other studio. That sucked. Ooh, they sucked, man. They didn't even do competition. They only did recital. So we was like the first team to come in and do competition. Then I ended up dancing in Huntersville with a whole bunch of white folk. I was the only black person.

[B]

How was that?

[C]

Ooh, the microaggression.

[A]

It's a little too hip hop.

[C]

People don't understand, like, racism in the dance community exists. Oh, it exists.

[A]

Well, so you ain't never lied.

[B]

What type of dance did you study? Like, specifically?

[C]

Did they tap, jazz, ballet, lyrical.

[B]

Come on.

[C]

All that. I had to. When you dance, you gotta study in the basics. You have to Google.

[B]

You got all the things. Yeah, and that's really what I wanted to talk to you about. Cause I did dance, tap, jazz, ballet, and classical ballet for 184 to 18, so 14 years. And I wanted to definitely talk to you about the racism in the dance community.

[C]

And I wouldn't even say it is racism, but it's the microaggressions. It's always. Cause when I was dancing, it's always, oh, why can black people do this? Why black people do that? Why they would even bring up, like, hair. Like, why yalls hair don't get as greasy? Why yalls hair don't do this? Why can y' all jump that high? Why can y' all run so fast? Why can y'?

[B]

All.

[C]

It doesn't matter. Like, what do we.

[B]

It literally just is what it is.

[C]

It's so weird. And then, like, being in competition, like I said, dancing around a whole bunch of white girls. The judges. Right when you walk on stage, the judges is looking at you. You're the only black boy. You being in the middle, surrounded by all these white girls. So I had to put on the show. I don't have a choice.

[A]

Hello.

[C]

But I hate that I had to work harder. That's it. Only because I'm black, gay, and a boy.

[A]

So, I mean, I feel like that's so relatable for all the industry. Like, especially when you're, you know, one of few amongst the sea of many. It can feel very isolating. It can feel like, damn, am I shucking and driving?

[C]

That's girl. For the longest. Cause I felt. Guess I had failed for all this.

[A]

You know, I can see that. I can see that it's hard.

[B]

The dance company I danced for, Shout out to Joanna's Kids are in Sacramento. Joanna herself is a butch lesbian who used to be a ballerina back in the day, in the 70s, when they.

[A]

Was hardcore, when they was telling them.

[B]

She learned ballet from an old Russian. But. And so there was little things. No, there was little things that she kept. Like, my sister used to throw shoes at us.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But it was, like, with such love. But she had wanted to create a space. She didn't pop us with no rulers, but she did. She had one. And she used to hit it on.

[C]

The table, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And she. Further down, literally. She's so sweet. I love her. And she was really big on creating a space for everyone to do dance. And so, like, I was big at the time. I was in ballet, you know, in sweats and shit. Cause I was on my stud phase. But I was like. We had disabled kids. We had, like, a lot of queer kids. It was a very safe space. And even then, I felt like, the microaggression just because, like, you're, like, the black person. It's still California. Signed a whole bunch of black people.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

So even in, like, a space that's supposed to be all inclusive, the feelings that you had, it's like, dang, I'm over here.

[C]

Yeah. Like, it's just.

[B]

And the way my. She did not. I just want to do hip hop so bad. She's like, this is jazz, ballet, classical ballet. This is in Compton.

[C]

The funniest thing. Okay. So when I went to the new dance, I'M in a tick tock about this. When I went to the new dance studio, they before they was doing traditional Christmas parade dances. Jingle Bells, you know, all for Christmas shotsay, kick down.

[B]

That's it. Yes.

[C]

So when I get there now, all of a sudden, y' all want to do Move youe Body by Beyonce. What are we doing?

[A]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Like, I'm sitting there like, uh huh. Did y' all just come up with this because y' all wanted to be urban?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, was it. Whose idea was this?

[A]

This is hip hop.

[C]

This is hip hop.

[A]

This is my girl. So I'm gonna do it.

[C]

But why did y' all wait till I get here to do Move youe Body? Y' all could have kept the whole traditional audience.

[A]

And it's crazy. Cause and not to give them anything, right? But sometimes, which is even more ridiculous, they don't even be realizing they don't leave the room. And it's like, baby, it's like, you did not have to do that.

[C]

When they told us what we was doing, me and my homegirl, the other black girl, used to dance, we looked at each other and I was like.

[A]

Is this about us?

[C]

Whatever. Is this about us? Like, whatever.

[A]

It was cute, though. So where do you want to go with dance? Do you want to pick it back up in a sense of more teaching, choreographing? Like, where do you want to go?

[C]

I do want to pick it back up, but I wanna open my own dance studio now.

[B]

I was just about to say I.

[C]

Could see that now. At first, I wanted to open my own all boys dance studio.

[A]

That's what I wanted to do.

[C]

But my mom was like, now you know how they gonna feel about that? You might wanna think that through. But I was, okay, well, I'll just open all. Like a dance studio for all black.

[B]

Kids or just like foster a space. Cause I know I felt like with Joanna, like, by her being queer, it was such a safe space for queer kids. So we had a lot of queer kids. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Like I said, I want to make being born and raised in the hood and dancing outside the hood. I always wanted to open a dance studio dedicated to the kids of the hood that can't afford. Because dance is expensive.

[B]

Oh, it is.

[A]

All those little extracurriculars.

[C]

Now, it might not be that expensive for boys, but for girls, you gotta pay for competition. Hair, costumes, makeup, dance tuition, you gotta pay for all of that. So I want to make a dance studio where it's affordable for kids that don't got it.

[B]

Joanna used to provide everything. She had a seamstress. So basically all we paid for was monthly. And even like when my parents got divorced and I was on point and my mom could not longer afford it, she even let me just keep taking classes to look out.

[C]

Cause they know how hard it is.

[B]

I mean, at that point, I had been dancing with her for like 10 years. So it was like, yeah, girl, she cheerleading ain't either.

[A]

No, it's your stuff is you get.

[B]

Grown and start finding out. Well, damn, you was paying that much.

[A]

For me to crazy and I ain't want to go.

[B]

Yeah, that's why you wouldn't let me miss practice.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All them extracurriculars, sports, music and dance and all those things, they cost so much money. And then on top of that, we already know how fruitful it is for children to be a part of those things. But at the same time, it's being pulled from the school. So you have to go outside of the school to even get these things. These things are also be inundated in the school system within themselves too. Those should be options.

[C]

Right? And I was in dancing school. I was on dance team in school. Then I danced out. I was on step team. I did all of that. But I do feel like there should be more affordable dance studios.

[A]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[C]

Like, especially for black kids. Not saying like black kids don't people that broke.

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

But you know what I mean?

[C]

But wait, no, but it should be any kid that has money troubles with paying for tuition and stuff, it should be affordable for anybody.

[A]

Like, that's dope. I could see that for you.

[B]

I see all the. Not just dance skills and the rhythm that I got from being in dance, but like the socialization I got, the teamwork I got. Because it gets to the point where after we know the choreo, we got to get in sync and teacher can't really help us get in sync.

[A]

We got to interact with each other.

[C]

Teach you how to be professional.

[B]

Perfect. You hear me? It's like so many skills. I would. I absolutely. And she also had like a gymnastics portion. I absolutely. I. I didn't take that. But I did do the dance. I absolutely do plan on having like whether I have girls or boys as children, I want them in dance because I feel like it teaches such good life skills.

[C]

See, I don't want to force my. If I do have a son, I don't want to force him to dance.

[B]

Because I feel like from the time you a baby. Because I feel like what used to Happen we had. Darren was about to join, but he. He ended up doing karate. But, like, same. Like, there would be so many brothers, sisters. And she started them from, like, when they were, like, two, when you just walk in. So even if you're a boy and you only do it till you're like, five, six, you've gotten so much socialization from just dealing with boys and girls, kids who don't necessarily look like you, learning how to walk and get your steps. It just. It's just so much. I can't. I know everyone always wants to put their kids in sports, but I feel like dancing is a sport, and it.

[C]

Does count to say that, especially when it comes to little black boys. You do not have to put them in football.

[B]

We don't need to know.

[C]

Put them in the arms.

[A]

And. Well, science, we do know that.

[B]

I.

[A]

It's homophobia.

[C]

No, it is.

[B]

No.

[A]

They want to push this level of really strong masculinity to these young boys. And it's the idea that the only way to attain a level of masculinity is through the sports, when it's, like, doing other things outside of that. Like, first of all, if you've never seen male ballet, have you seen their legs? They are very masculine like that Squeeze.

[C]

A watermelon with their thighs.

[A]

No, literally, like, the gymnasts are incredibly strong. It's so much strength, upper body strength.

[B]

You need to be able to backhand and hold the girls up and do X, Y, and Z. Those boys are strong.

[C]

That's why I always say it.

[B]

Put them.

[C]

Put boys in something other than sports. They don't have ballet sports.

[B]

And you know what? You don't get CTE doing ballet.

[C]

Ballet.

[A]

Hello.

[C]

And that's why I'm glad you brought up the homophobia thing, because that's why my mama was scared to put me in dance when I was little, because I started so young. She was like, I don't want nobody to pick on you, girl. They was gonna pick on me regardless. They was already calling me, so, like, they was already doing that already. So that just add the cherry on top. So, I mean. But it calmed down. Like, I didn't really get. I wouldn't necessarily say I got picked on. I got talked about, but I never get picked on for it. I mean, I'm talented. What you get?

[A]

Hello.

[B]

What are we gonna say?

[A]

But I still ate that eight count. So what?

[B]

And I hit my pirouette on point.

[A]

Don't worry about it. Okay. Yeah, I think I agree. I don't know what I'm gonna put Noah in, but he gonna be in something that kids need to be.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And unfortunately, I will force them. I am Joe Jackson.

[B]

You gonna learn to marry Joe Jackson. Darrington's a whole black belt. Because she said, no, you're gonna finish.

[C]

Yeah. Because. And that's how my mom was. She. She wanted to keep us in stuff so we could stay out of trouble.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

We lived in the hood, so she didn't want us to get, you know, sucked into all that. So we was always. Me. My brother played football. He did gymnastics, basketball. I did tennis, karate, dance, gymnastics.

[A]

It's always in the song.

[B]

And no shade to my. My friends who, like their parents, let them stop doing activities. They did start getting in trouble.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Cause they were just going home.

[C]

They didn't get bored.

[B]

You're at home bored, and there's nothing else to do but go smoke, fuck, whatever. Yeah.

[C]

That's just like the big star athletes when you was in high school. Once they stopped playing sports, what they gonna do? Either start selling drugs.

[A]

Oh, I was gonna say got big.

[C]

That, too. But I wouldn't go sad. But they either start selling drugs, and then like, in high school, you'd be like, bro, that was not you in high school. Now all of a sudden, you just big dope.

[A]

There's nothing else for them to. And what's crazy.

[B]

And I.

[A]

And I hate the way our community puts so much emphasis specifically on an end goal for these things. Like, sometimes activities are just activities and hobbies. And a lot of times we put so much emphasis, especially with the boys being in sports. Like, this is going to take you out. This you going to. And so then when it don't work, they have nothing. It's like they're shattered. So it's like now I'm forced to. To just find a way. And then when you start finding a way now, your entire reality has changed, and it's like, we gotta stop doing it sometimes. That boy playing football in high school is just that boy playing football in high school. It's okay, baby. It's okay.

[B]

And y' all are 27. Take that link that the boys have to the football reels from high school out your motherfucking Instagram bio. You are old as fuck.

[A]

Unpin that picture.

[C]

Stop reminiscing back on high school.

[B]

We don't care.

[C]

Graduated 10 years ago.

[B]

We don't care.

[C]

It's not.

[A]

Girl, you got to leave it alone.

[B]

I will say I do enjoy the clips of the men who play the recreational football league now.

[C]

I do like that and it's like.

[A]

You can do that.

[B]

I do believe.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

I feel like a good hobby, whatever you like to do. And then they be.

[A]

We be laughing a little bit when.

[B]

They take it so serious. But I do think that we need that. And that's another as adult. Yeah. We still need activities.

[A]

Like close your eyes.

[B]

Yeah, like that's cool. You could do that.

[C]

I said one of my hobbies I want to get either I want to start doing, building Legos or I want to get those like little mini things. I'll be seeing them on tv. They like you can make little food and stuff.

[B]

Little moms did Legos. I have all type of Lego flowers and shit.

[C]

Because I don't even. I don't consider dancing a hobby. Like I need something small. I need a side quest that's more.

[A]

Of like a passion.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. I need more of a side quest.

[B]

I can sit home.

[C]

Keep me calm.

[B]

Besides smoking, do you like knitting or crochet?

[C]

I want to learn how to knit.

[B]

My grandmother was a big knitter. Crocheter?

[C]

No, my grandma. I always wanted my grandma teach how to sew, but she never talked.

[A]

Yeah. What's funny is so I. I know how to sew, knit and crochet. But with knitting and crocheting, I kid you not, I never make anything. I just do it. I'll just make it like a little square and then I just. Yeah, it's just therapeutic.

[C]

What's the little thing we used to play with in elementary school? Braiding. The little.

[A]

Braiding little things.

[C]

I used to do those.

[B]

I used to do latch hook real heavy when I was in elementary school. Remember you would have little pictures.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I used to give them to people for Christmas.

[C]

That's real cute.

[A]

Well, before we get into some more topics, let's pour you up. This episode is actually sponsored by St. Julian Wine. And so today I want you to try the sweet rose wine from Michigan. It's really good. We actually had it not too long ago. Here, hold it and I'll pour it. It's so tasty. So I'm gonna let you get a little sweet and you let the people know, okay? You want some more, baby?

[B]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[A]

Auntie is not drinking, baby. Auntie had a long night.

[B]

It's good.

[A]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

That's real cute.

[B]

Yeah, I like this.

[A]

Shout out to St. Julian. Thank you so much again for sponsoring this episode. Blink, blink.

[B]

Love ya.

[A]

All right, so let's get into a little bit of mess.

[B]

You know, the vibes unhinged Anymore is.

[A]

Probably the messiest app to date. It honestly kind of beat Twitter out.

[C]

A little bit, but it was not always like that.

[B]

It wasn't always like that.

[C]

Not always like that.

[B]

Yeah, it really wasn't.

[A]

It really wasn't. What did it feel like for you to kind of start being thrown into drama here and there, especially considering you're such a silly person. Like, you don't even make controversial content. So I was very gagged when I would see you be pulled into, like, little things here. I mean, getting your page taken the first time. So what did it feel like for you?

[C]

Honestly, I don't know. I can't even explain how it felt. I was just confused.

[A]

What.

[B]

What was you getting? I know you kind of got pulled in with us, which, again, this is what stands out to me about that moment in time. Devin needs to get away from them. Tell Dev to get away from them.

[A]

He has not gotten away from us. Y'. All, update.

[C]

Sorry, I can't.

[B]

So that's why I'm like, wait, outside of that, what else? Because you really don't even doing that thing.

[C]

I don't be doing that. Like, when that whole Super 5 thing went on. We have to be real. Homegirl made that up out of jealousy. I'm gonna be sorry, but it was just. It was just.

[A]

I ain't gonna tell you wrong.

[C]

It was just stupid. That whole situation was just stupid. And then they didn't even know who everybody was talking about. They were just.

[B]

No, the whole thing, it was always 17 people. That's why it's funny. There is a way.

[C]

It was always a joke about it. Till this day, I'd be like, that was stupid. And then they. Oh, Devin don't need to be around them. They ain't did nothing to me. I don't know what the fuck y' all talking about. They ain't shit that he does. What is. Oh, Devin just happened to be in the in crowd. Er, wait a minute.

[A]

Hold on now, now, hold on, hold on.

[C]

These my hunger.

[A]

Like, yeah, as long as it explicit.

[C]

Come like, what we talking about?

[B]

Mind you, Dev be the main one in the group chat, cussing and fussing, ready to go.

[A]

I said.

[B]

And then this literally be like, devin, don't make no video. Child, please.

[C]

And then when I took that. Man, when I took that little break that one time, and I went through.

[B]

My whole situation and they sent the folks out. Wait, the way they sent the folks out for you, Remember? I had to. I made a video like that.

[C]

Think Pieces online.

[A]

They Sent Amber Alerts out.

[C]

Oh, it must be the. It must be the weed. It must be the liquor. It must be.

[A]

No, you know, fell out with them super Fives.

[B]

I didn't even know it was happening because you were still so active, kind of in the group chat with, I guess makes sense. Like, you going to text people, you know, in real life. But, I mean, I make my videos and go. I don't really scroll.

[A]

I have.

[B]

I have. I have a scroll time. It's at night in the middle of, you know, before I go to bed. So I didn't know it was happening until I was getting comments under my video, like, is def cool? Is Dev okay? Am I. That's why I said, dev, are you okay?

[C]

I remember that they was making, like they was on group lives trying to figure out what was going. And then I remember somebody. It was either you or somebody got into it with that. With somebody on TikTok. And I remember that's when I was going through my little situation, and y' all was on Live or something, and Dee, he was watching the Live, and I was like, I need to get back on TikTok so I can say something. Let's get back on. But I didn't want to get back on because I was doing my little.

[B]

I had to finish getting my mind right. And we wouldn't have wanted you to do that. No way. Because literally, this is what happened, y'. All. I woke up. They was in my comments. Is Dev okay? Devil K? Because I guess you made a video. I hadn't seen that. But like I said, he had been active in our chat. So then I said, dev, is you cool? And then you just very casually, oh, yeah, I'm just taking a social media break. So I came back and made a video. Like, well, I don't know what y' all are talking about. I just spoke to Deb. He's not suicidal.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because the way people were commenting, I.

[C]

Just had a nervous breakdown. Like, girl, I have depression.

[B]

Please.

[C]

I'm okay. I'm not gonna go jump off a break.

[B]

And you know what the crazy part is? I feel like we all have a friend who'd be like, I'm gonna take a social media break. And I respect the bitches who really go and take one, because bitches love to. I'm finna. I'm gonna get up off it. Y' all seem to. And be online next day.

[C]

And that's why when I say, like, when people ask me, oh, how do you handle content creators? That third, you have to Be right up here before. Because that content creating stuff can get real.

[B]

It could get, it could get with.

[C]

You dog your mind. You'd be sitting there like, yeah, I don't want to deal with nobody.

[B]

Oh my God, I'm such a fuck ass bitch.

[C]

It did. A lot of people don't realize, like content creating can make you can turn you into a people pleaser too.

[B]

Oh, for sure.

[A]

You. Because you chase that dopamine hit of like, yeah, Satisfaction. Like, wow, so many people love me. So many people like me.

[B]

They're confident. It can also make you real cynical. And not with no one. Because I've had a couple moments where I've had to check and I don't announce my little breaks, but I will go ghost for a day or two. And I just know the most recent time I said, now you this. Yeah, do it again. No. Yeah, it's definitely necessary.

[C]

Yeah, you got, you got to take a little break.

[B]

You definitely necessary.

[C]

You got to. Cuz if you don't, you can let.

[B]

Some people get to your brain. But I'm big on turning my. Turning my phone off. Like, I'm really big on when I be like, go touch grass.

[C]

That's why every time you see me on the video, I'm outside. I'm stay outside. I have to go outside. Like, I cannot just stay in the house and make video. I have to be outside because like you said, people don't touch grass anymore.

[B]

People stay in their house.

[C]

This is TikTok messy. What are y' all being messy for? Why are y' all trying to fight?

[B]

And it's not even fun. Like when I first started making tiktoks in during the pandemic time, I always. I even stopped saying this how I used to be like, oh, I'm the Wendy Williams, the TikTok. It used to be real chick cheeky. And it wasn't serious. People started getting so serious. You started getting real. Like, like you. The, the, the, the, the peaches and the grit babies and who's the other one Child. It just became so much. And then you got the offshoots of like culture.

[A]

I did the election.

[B]

I bring everything back to the election. I don't give a. After the election this year really changed the vibe. Absolutely did.

[C]

And I'm, I'm so glad you are bringing that up because I do feel like after he got put in that chair, the racism has been crazy on TikTok. The homophobia. And then even. I hate to say it too, but even with our community is getting bad, it's getting bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, it is.

[C]

It's like we lose a sense of community in our.

[B]

We do, baby.

[A]

Let me start watching it. And I'm like, this is so strange.

[B]

The FBI, the fba, Y' all mad at Mona Leo for saying, I like being black American. And shout out to the other people, too.

[C]

It's performative.

[B]

Y' all are crazy. Like, that can't make you that mad.

[A]

It doesn't.

[C]

It doesn't.

[A]

But when you.

[C]

They don't have nothing to be mad at.

[A]

When you claim and cling on to an identity that you created. Right. And you start this movement. But the movement is started out of opposition and not some sort of, like, Kumbaya.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You have to stand in it even when it don't make sense. And that's what happens. Because, like, you know that don't make sense. But you have to force yourself to do it. Otherwise, everything you said in the beginning is. And that's what's happening. And it's honestly so annoying to witness and watch because we're going backwards. We're having more separations. Like, we were doing good. We're supposed to be building. Like, you keep wanting to be from everywhere else, but where the. Your black ass is from. And it changes absolutely nothing.

[B]

And this is my thing now. What? Tick tock. Isn't real. Because when you go outside, this is not even how folks act at all. One thing I always say. I always say, now, people from African countries do come here, the older people.

[A]

Do back a little uppity.

[B]

That's the thing. My mom has Africans in her family, specifically from Kenya. I'm not trying to downplay that, but what I am saying is I went to a HBCU where there were all the diasporas and everyone was chilling. Everyone in my age group was good on each other. Being homegirl, like, it doesn't. Like, y' all are stupid. It's not like that outside.

[C]

Unless you went to a hbcu, you won't understand.

[B]

You won't understand.

[C]

I went to HBC and we had the Africans, the Caribbean. We all got along.

[B]

It was all cool.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Like, what are y' all talking about now?

[C]

We didn't hang out with them on an everyday basis. Like, the black Americans hung out with the black Americans. Africans hung out with the Africans.

[B]

They even had their own club.

[A]

And it's not a problem.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? It was no beef. Like, it's just so.

[B]

It's the beef aspect that actually irks me. So bad. Especially when you, you have lived in areas like how. I was in Maryland, I was in Virginia, I'm in Texas. These are also states with high diaspora community. Yeah, the. My favorite beauty supply in Houston is run by Afro Caribbean or Afro Latinos. Dominicans, like, Caribbean too. But you get what I'm saying. Like, they got all the Spanish products in there. They telling me what I should use in my hair. It's just like the way the hate that's being pushed. Everyone likes their differences. And that's the other thing with the fba. They make it seem like, oh, you.

[A]

Don'T want to be.

[B]

You want to be something else. It's not even that. I just don't hate them. Yeah, I know.

[C]

The only, the only reason we have, like this big diaspora war is because white people.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

When, okay. You know, when you was younger, you would sit, watch tv, the commercial come on with the star of African.

[A]

So us, we growing up since now they're poor.

[C]

They don't.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

They force that on us, knowing damn well they're not poor. That's one of the richest time. Like, they're not poor, but they made us believe that we was better than them. This, that third. That's why a lot of actors think we think that we're better than him. Homie, I ain't got no beef with you.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I'm black.

[A]

And something that I also learned is that media outside of America is very, very, very skewed. So you have to, like, understand that a lot of propaganda is pushed outward. And so when black folks from other countries come over here, they also have a very skewed view of African Americans because they've been fed American propaganda about black folks the same way we was fed propaganda about them.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. That's why, that's why I always bring that up when people bring up like the whole. I'll be like, it's white people.

[A]

That's why the root is always gonna go back.

[B]

You know, it comes back to white supremacy. Because what's been crazy is I know exactly what commercial you're talking about. But you know what's funny? Not funny, but to your point, our homeboy at Hampton from the uk, remember, he did hit, he used to do his American accent, but it was a ghetto ass, black American accent because they played Baby Boy and all the hoods. That's all they said.

[A]

And that was really what he said. He's like, I only know how to do. Know how to do this.

[B]

Because this is what. When we watched American, we were Watching the black. And that's what we're seeing.

[C]

It was the ghetto.

[B]

It was a ghetto. And it's like, the thing is. And not even ghetto. Not anything's wrong. Ghetto. I'm just saying, if you're from the UK and the only accent you can do is Jody from Baby Boy, that's a very specific black American accent. That's not how everyone talk. But to your point about that commercial, they played that commercial so much to the point where sometimes it makes me want to be like, do people from African countries know what commercial we're talking about?

[C]

I've always wondered that.

[A]

Have y' all seen the Marshall?

[B]

Because it used to come on. It used to come on during tv. It used to come on. On Disney Channel.

[A]

Yes, yes. Come on.

[B]

Early in the morning, late at night.

[C]

Late at night. It used to be said, you'll wake up from there and be like, I.

[A]

Just want to call that number so bad.

[B]

And the pita and the dogs.

[C]

And the dogs.

[A]

Down. They always are. And now I have to go into a tangent.

[B]

You said, who?

[C]

St. Jude.

[B]

Oh, my God. I think that's a real hospital.

[C]

No, it's a real hospital, but I think it's like, I think they don't be giving up. I do. I'm sorry.

[A]

I do trust nothing. Let me do my little quick tangent, because I just have to get this off any chance I get. Because we're talking about PETA and them scamming. I have a very firm it. To me, it is.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I have a very firm stance that I believe anyone who picks up PETA as their activation of choice is extremely, extremely anti black. Because the fact that you are willing to put animal rights above human rights. And again, it's no shade. I love animals down. I got animal babies. I love animals to pieces. But it's something so fucking nuts about putting animal rights over human rights.

[C]

There's a conversation on TikTok being had right now about that.

[B]

I was gonna say, majority of black.

[C]

Folk have the conversation. You know, we put human rights over.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Don't get me wrong. We love animals.

[B]

We love our animals. One thing about a black person, we gonna have a dog and our dog's gonna be black. Cause y' all know Flex Alexander, you.

[C]

Know what I'm saying? But when it's time to put that down, we gonna have to put that down. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Cause we not.

[A]

We not gonna have a hospital bill for no dogs.

[C]

Sit here and be like, no, he needs rights. No, no, no. We're not gonna do that. Cuz human rights come before I get it.

[A]

We don't even have proper health care. So we're not gonna be spending thousands and thousands of dollars on this dog that's 16 years old that he got that cancer. We gonna let that baby go.

[C]

He been around for a hundred years.

[A]

You know what I mean? And the left eye gone. He missed the some skin patches, baby walking, you know, old. You know, old officer, he the thing.

[B]

I never even heard of black people putting dogs down. You just let the baby go at home like you do with everybody.

[A]

They'll give you an option. We'll take him to the vet. Like, what's wrong with him? He got that cancer. Okay, how long is he in pain? How much? Cuz euthanization is cheap.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So there a lot of. We'll just do it.

[B]

My dog from when I was 13, Thor, and them little. Someone said my comments said them little raggedy white dogs live forever. I said, not too much on my girl, but Thor is blind, got arthritis. Ooh. Mind you, my mom, I literally told her, my mom went.

[A]

My mom just walked. Just like, what the fuck going on? Who that over there?

[B]

Flex be working Thor's nerve. Like, she be like, my mom went and got Thor the arthritis medicine. I said, oh, I know you love this dog for real. What you mean you got the dog arthritis medicine? You didn't want this dog about 20 years old. But even when I told my mom, I said, well, my homegirl Ashley dog, Bella just died earlier this year. Bella was about 20 years old. And Bella just went away in her sleep. She was just a little Chihuahua. So I was telling my mom, my mom was like, I think I haven't taken Thor to the vet because I feel like I know what they're gonna tell me to do. I said, I don't even feel like Thor's not in pain. She wake up, she do her thing, Just let her go.

[C]

Yeah, just let her.

[B]

She ain't gotta do nothing. She ain't in pain.

[C]

I'm scared for my baby blue to get old.

[B]

Oh, it's so crazy. I be looking at Flex and Thor and it's like, listen, since I got Thor when I was a kid, it's like, I remember when you was like, flex.

[C]

And I'm like, flex, yeah, yeah.

[A]

No, losing a dog is definitely very traumatic. And I've lost a couple of dogs. Yeah, it's very, it's very fuck.

[C]

Especially like an emotional support dog.

[B]

And honestly, that's why it makes me mad when black people will bring up putting black human rights above animal rights. And white people act like we don't understand what it's like to be a cat.

[A]

No, we were there.

[B]

Actually. Don't play with me. I love my dog.

[C]

And I feel like we be more close to dogs than anything.

[B]

Cause we treat dogs like humans. They the family.

[C]

We don't do that all the time. Baby talking.

[A]

No, sit your ass down. Sit your motherfucker.

[C]

You should hear me with Blue, my son.

[B]

How about the bus?

[A]

You take your ass off.

[C]

I'm not playing.

[B]

I had a flex. No, sit down. My mom let him get in our furniture. I said, he running y' all raggedy. Cause he don't act like that around me. And when I come up there, he gone, right?

[C]

Blue got his own. He got his own sandal that he get.

[A]

I'm crying.

[C]

I'm gonna play that mind. You run to the cage.

[B]

I got flex sandal on right now. Don't make me do. Don't make me do it.

[A]

Yeah. That's why I firmly believe that. And it's. It's. It's such a strange thing to me because it's like. No, like, literally, we have people who are hungry. We have babies who can't have proper medicine. They didn't cut off the snap. And you talking about a damn snake. Cause I want to wear a boot.

[C]

Get the out. God damn it.

[A]

You finna piss me. I'm gonna make you into a goddamn boot. Sit your ass down somewhere. I'm sick of this.

[B]

Goddamn it.

[A]

That's that cracker shit.

[C]

They be. But y' all can't do. Who the fuck can't do? I don't give a fuck.

[B]

And no T, no shade. My mother was from the Midwest. She was raised outside of Chicago. One thing about the Midwest, blacks, fur down.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Detroit.

[B]

I have furs from my grandmother in the early. My great grandmother in the early 1900s type shit. Like, I have 100-year-old furs in my closet that I'm never gonna wear. It's just like, what am I gonna do with this? I can't throw it out.

[C]

My great grandma, she gave my grandma when she died her fair.

[B]

She had a. Yeah.

[C]

That she throw up.

[A]

Baby. I would pet her.

[B]

I do. The first do be very warm.

[C]

They do.

[A]

They do be very warm.

[C]

And then the thing is, the older folk be having a real fur.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. You know, my people is, oh. I like. My whole thing is like, y' all not gonna come for me wearing a animal that died 100 years ago, y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

So, so sorry.

[A]

Don't get.

[B]

And you know what?

[A]

You know, now I have to go into another tangent because everything comes back down to white supremacy. There's also this movement of white people trying to advocate for certain levels of justice and advocacy. And is it the purple thing? Let me, let me work this route, right? We talking about the furs, right?

[B]

Right.

[A]

Although killing an animal for its fur, the idea of it's wrong. I hate these poachers. Right. Cause they just try to go get the tusks. It's just pointless killing. Right. However, when we're talking about sustainability and you talk about the microplastics and the fibers that come with making all this polyester and these cheap ass clothings, it's what are we risking? You know what I'm saying? So it's not that I'm advocating for more murders of animals so that we can have furs, right? But if we're talking about sustainability, we're talking about what's better for the environment. We're talking about what's better for us. Real furs are better. The same thing about lab grown diamonds. And I almost fell into this pipeline of, you know what? I don't want a real diamond because it's a blood diamond. I want to reject blood diamonds until someone made a video. I wish I could remember their name, but they made such a good point. They're like, this is white propaganda yet again. Because they know that Africa is in a fight to get their resources back. And just when they're able to make profit, now you guys want to go to lab grown diamonds putting that money right back in white folks hands. I said, God damn it.

[C]

They almost got up here.

[A]

Yes. You really have to, have to pay attention to, to the way in which they, they do things. Same way white people try to tell you eating rice is bad. Them Asian people.

[B]

This is, this is, this is my special interest. I'm about to go on a rant.

[A]

Why do you have eating disorders?

[B]

My mother's family is from Africa.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

One thing about our diaspora, we love rice. And not just us as black people, Asians, the Hispanics. Yes, Everybody loves white rice, specifically.

[A]

A good start.

[B]

I hate, first of all, brown rice.

[A]

It's nasty and gritty.

[B]

It's disgusting.

[A]

I don't, I don't want it.

[B]

And white people will sit here and tell you that, first of all, it's fattening. White rice is going to make you big. It's not good for you. It's unhealthy. Asian people been 100 pounds for thousands of years.

[A]

I've never seen a big Asian.

[C]

Me either.

[B]

What are you talking about? Right?

[A]

And they do that on purpose.

[C]

Yeah, but I ain't never seen, like, a heavy.

[A]

And all they eat is rice and.

[C]

Come over here and get sticky tail. But.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And so with your argument of saying rice is unhealthy, doesn't make sense. Yeah.

[C]

Black folk love rice. They keep.

[B]

I love that it sticks on. When I be at Chipotle and they offer me brown rice, I get agitated. Why?

[A]

What?

[B]

I'd be having to cut to myself. Cause I'm like, this is not your fault. You're doing your job.

[C]

Sorry. Yeah, I love white rice.

[A]

Yeah. I'm gonna throw that white rice down. Like. Nah, they do the same thing with that msg. God damn it. You white folks keep trying to make everything goddamn just a mess. I'm not listening to shit y' all tell me, okay?

[C]

Especially not about gaining weight or nothing.

[A]

Or not no food.

[C]

Cause the white body and the black body, two different things. Hello, this.

[B]

Cause you see how Alandria look off the genetics alone. Alone. I seen that. First of all, Allandria mama.

[C]

Thicker than the bowl of grits.

[A]

Let me tell you. You know a stick. When you look at that neck.

[C]

Yeah. Or them.

[A]

They got that line.

[C]

Yeah. The. And the. The kneecaps. When the kneecaps. Face.

[A]

When you can see a face in it.

[B]

And that's it was. So we were just talking about this. I was like, y' all be trying to put surgery bodies on everyone when.

[A]

As a black woman, I know exactly what to look at. And let me tell you, the meat on the inside of that. Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Y' all be sounding crazy and comments like, have you had surgery? First of all, that's a rude question to ask, number one. But number two, if you look at a body on a certain right spot, you. You have your answer.

[C]

Yeah. You can always say they didn't have surgery.

[B]

If you know.

[A]

You know, this is homegrown. Y' all seen the back of my. Y' all seen the back of my neck.

[C]

When. When she was getting talked about for having cellulite. That one point in time, I'm like.

[A]

God forbid a got some dimples.

[C]

What? Like, come on, do I believe so.

[B]

Is the body take or not? Is it body fake or not?

[C]

Who?

[B]

And Beyonce, Cuz, you know, sometimes.

[C]

Oh, everybody keeps saying she got.

[B]

I don't care.

[C]

I don't give a.

[A]

First of all, how about that?

[B]

How about that?

[C]

I don't give a fuck.

[B]

Listen, go the pro surgery route. The lady is 40 something years old. Of course she done had 50, 11 kids. She's the biggest superstar in the world. If you think she hasn't done one, two or three or four things and I don't know what she's done or she's not actively going to have upkeep, you're crazy. And that's not to shame her. It's just like it is what it.

[A]

Is because I'mma get touched.

[B]

Listen, at the spa, I'm doing this shit for normal women getting touch ups and da da da da da da. So you think Beyonce not getting it now? Do I know what she's had done? No. If you told me Beyonce has had a BBL at this juncture, I would say that's believable. Especially after them twins.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Did she have ass already?

[C]

Yes, yes, yes. Now I don't feel like she touched her face though. She has not.

[A]

Oh no.

[B]

So what she's done? Let me tell you what she's done because I've actually been studying because it's the thing. Thank you. I'm gonna plug my business here at Femi Aesthetics. We are aiming to focus on the natural anti aging. So when I say natural, it's not because you're, you're altering your face, but we want to use natural alternatives to give natural results. So like recently I had PDGF with this platelet derived growth factor injected under my eyes. What? It's not an artificial filler, but it is a stimulant that's going to make my body create collagen. So my body absorbed it within like three days. Swelling went down and then my body for the last six weeks has been creating collagen to make it puffy. It. The downside of all this stuff is it is a little bit more expensive because you have to keep going back, you have to keep getting it done, but your result is more natural. I think this is the type of that Beyonce has been getting done because she still very much looks like herself. Because that filter, I'm not a filter, that's a girl. But that filler in very small amounts it can hit, but it has to be very small amounts and it's usually mixed with something like PDGF or prp, that type of of thing. She looks so much like herself that I don't. She has had a little bit in this top lip. If you look at it. Yeah, she's had a little filler in the lip. It looks really good. But I think on her face she's just doing heavy micro needling, heavy facials. All this. And she has the money to keep it up and go back. That face is that faceless baby in.

[A]

The back of that head.

[C]

They stood on her back and said come here.

[A]

And let me tell you that's the.

[B]

Only reason I need to touch a million dollars.

[C]

She look just like Kim. And I know Kim was fuming.

[A]

Yeah, don't ever come for me like that ho.

[B]

Especially when they were in the picture when they were under her pictures like you and your mama look the same.

[C]

Yeah, that face is. That face is tuck his poor.

[A]

And baby, let me tell you something. Let. Let me get some skin that's tuckable. Tuck it.

[C]

She even got it from the neck.

[B]

They even tucked the neck.

[A]

Girl pull me, put my whole body in a ponytail, bitch.

[B]

The advances being made with like skin care. Ten years ago they weren't doing necklace with a facelift. Do you know you do that really what I did under my eyes they have now started do your hands don't even have to look old no more. By the time so you want to.

[C]

See the bangs and stuff. You know how to be seeing the little.

[B]

You know how your hands look old how it's like oh, you could tell her age by your hands no more. They are injecting prp, prf all this shit. So my thing is like by the time you baby get to be 40, think about the advanced.

[C]

Right? Right. Baby I said the only thing I would get better is my teeth. I would get porcelain teeth.

[B]

Oh porcelain is okay but you have.

[A]

A really nice smile.

[B]

You just need some invisalign choppy teeth from the back.

[A]

Just put some in there.

[C]

Then I gotta get it done before it the side tooth because you never know when that's gonna happen.

[A]

Be careful with getting some of them fake teeth though. Baby. A dentist will always tell you keep your teeth.

[C]

I think I'm go overseas and get it though. Because that's where everybody be going to get get the nice ones. They be trying to people mouth up in the States.

[B]

My homegirl got Porcelain in in Mexico close to Houston. Her porcelain looks good. It does look really good. I just be so scared to say.

[A]

Was there a butt?

[B]

No, no, no. My butt was because she can't feel them. But she did tell me it. She eats ice cream cuz she's. It's Ashley child. It's Ashley. When she eats ice cream it burns because the nerves because they do have to drill your teeth down. She just like ice cream so much and has learned how to Thug it.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

And then my thing is, like, with me getting fake teeth, my mouth already big, so I don't want to. Yeah.

[B]

And that's what would stress me out. Because I really hate a big smile. And that's no shade to no one. Because I know how y' all do. Even the natural big teeth sometimes be like, damn, chopper, damn.

[C]

Just. Just spiraling down a little bit.

[B]

That's what. Remember Hillary Doe did that.

[C]

I can't stand big gums either. I can't stand.

[B]

You can't control the gums.

[C]

I know that box.

[B]

You know, they can. Do they have a surgery for that. Now you can get your gums. Break it down. Yeah.

[C]

Now I can't. Really can't talk a lot of shit about big gums. Cause I had braces, and when I had braces, my gums was protruding, swollen.

[A]

Yeah, gummy, gummy, gummy.

[B]

But, you know, you can get them that. They'll cut them off. You can get all that done.

[A]

Certain things just.

[B]

You can get anything.

[C]

I said, I get a gold tooth. If I lose my side tooth, I get a gold one.

[A]

Oh, you saw that? You saw Old country. Yeah.

[B]

No, I like that. I really. My Auntie Didi had a gold tooth, and I used to think it was so fly.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And in front of my.

[C]

I always think that it's this bus driver that work at my job, and she got a go to. But it's the outline, it's the trim.

[A]

Oh, she tea.

[C]

I said, yeah, girl.

[B]

I like the hood tattooed hood.

[A]

Like, excuse me.

[B]

That is what the ancient Egyptians used to do when they dip their teeth in gold. So I'm from kings and queens.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Indeed, I come from kings and queens.

[C]

If you take a gold tube to the pawn shop, you can get money for a gold tube on gore. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right. Let's talk a little bit about mental health. We kind of brush past it a little bit. But I want to talk about it especially, like, being in this space where we're so present, we're so on. Especially kind of having to walk amongst people and people recognize you and stuff. How have you been navigating your mental health?

[C]

Therapy?

[A]

Come on now, talk about it.

[C]

That's it. Therapy. That's it. Like therapy and staying out the way. That's it. I say to myself a lot. Y' all know that? I say to myself a lot.

[B]

Not in the way, child.

[C]

I don't never like. I barely. In the group chat.

[A]

Oh, I was just at the house, child.

[C]

I was just at the house. I Just woke up. I don't. Like, I be staying out the way. Like, I don't really. I go to therapy, go to work, go to therapy, in the gym.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

I just got back.

[A]

You have been in that gym.

[C]

Yeah, but I got a lot back in. I've been to this whole. I've been. I ain't been to the gym in like four days. I've been here. But the gym, therapy, and that's pretty much it. That's.

[B]

That's a good. I feel like, to your point about staying out the way, I keep talking about this, but the beginning of this year, I was in a situation where I was fighting in the club and then people were in my comments talking about it. Mind you, it was low. It didn't get too big. I was like, oh. I was about to say it wasn't a situation like that, but it was like, oh, people definitely see me and knew who I was. And so this was Houston. You know, I gets down a little bit. Just a little bit. But like, after that, I was really on some. Me and Darrington, matter of fact.

[A]

A mess.

[B]

Matter of fact, it just. It just. That woke me up a little bit to just being like, damn. Not that you can't be in the mix with civilians no more, but you need to move a little bit smarter.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And have to move differently. And in terms of staying out the way, I can't be here every single weekend with y' all like I used to be. And when I do come, maybe I need to come with some more people. It's just like all these different things that you have to think about. And I think that any content creator should think, especially after a certain follower account, you should obviously don't post in real time. Don't like, when you're making videos in your house. Be super aware of, like, part of the reason I always made videos in bed was because it's like, you don't know where I'm at for my bedroom. Right. You could get into the.

[C]

That's why you only see me on my balcony.

[B]

You see what I'm saying? Like, it's all these little things that you do have to think about because people do be watching you and the.

[C]

World is crazy now.

[B]

They're crazy.

[C]

And they're not saying like, yeah, we tick tock creators. You know what I'm saying? So we got like a little name for ourselves.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

But people be treating us like we these big time, like big celebrities and. Bro, what are you doing?

[B]

Cause I don't have no security. You see what I'm saying? I don't have. I'm not Beyonce. I don't have security. I'm outside.

[C]

And that's nothing that fucks with your mental too, because you just always feel like, okay, hold on. Let me calm down before somebody try to speak up on me.

[B]

No. Cause Loki. I was like that. I was like that before this. I was. I was very much a person who was like, my head's on a swivel.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like my dad. Crazy ass. So he was always like, you have to be aware of your surroundings. You have to be on go. So I just feel like now it's even. It's just more heightened.

[C]

And then with him in the office, you never know.

[A]

And I've always been a very anxious person. Like, I don't think that's ever gonna go away. That's just at this point who I am. I'm very high strung. I'm very anxious. I'm very just like, jittery. And it's been definitely a little strange to navigate. Like walking in places that you kind of don't feel like you belong in, but somehow you're there, so clearly you belong there. People coming up and talking to you and you not really expecting it. But then it's like, well, why am I not expecting at this point? It happens all the time. And it's like, how do I navigate that? Because it's like, I'm still not where I want to be, but I still mean something to somebody. And that's something. Like, it's kind of hard to accept. It's really hard to accept. And I have to keep telling myself, like, you're girl, you. You've been working for this. You know what this is?

[C]

It just gets. Sometimes it gets frustrating.

[B]

Yeah. It gets really rude for not being nice. Child. They clock.

[C]

I know. I saw in somebody's comments I did.

[A]

Was a rude ass.

[C]

I said, but I've never been. Now actually, I'm lying.

[B]

What if I had gas, girl? What if I. Do you remember the person who said that? No. And I think it was a troll. Because if you went. I went through the thread, right? It was dropping pictures of us together. Like, when I met her, she was great. And then that's the girl who made it. I said, you made this video in such a bad spirit. Because the person and then the creator of the video was like, y' all are devaluing. What's the word I'm looking for? Downplaying the experience. And I'm sitting there like, no, they're actually saying, maybe you caught her on a bad day. So they're not actually downplaying your experience. They're saying, everybody has bad days.

[C]

Everybody's not gonna be in good spirits every time you see them.

[A]

And I. This one girl, I saw that video.

[B]

I saw, and I dropped, and I didn't pay attention to it.

[A]

I hate this mentality of, like, you ran into somebody famous. You may not have had the most amazing interaction. Now you're making a video because it's like, you genuinely don't know this person. Know. Like, you have no idea what's. And I never thought that I would be saying stuff like this, but when you really experience, it's like, damn. Like, maybe celebrities are people.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, wait a minute.

[B]

Really made me realize it when I had little moms with me. And that's. This is part of the reason that whoever made that video, I just think it's a troll, and I don't think it's real, because that's part of the reason I've always been like, no, I. With Houston. Because I was definitely clear about. I don't want her on camera.

[C]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

When I'm outside.

[C]

Yo.

[B]

You feel me? She's a kid. Respected me down when I was in Houston. And that's why I just feel like that's part. I don't want to talk about the city and be like, y', all. I think it's that creator and that girl, because we be in the grocery store, be hitting the piece up from far away because I'm with the baby.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I. Even the church I go to, I go to, like, a bigger church. They caught us for their Instagram page walking in church, like. Like, doing regular shit. They reached out to me and said, do you want us to take this down? Because she's on camera. And in my head, I was like, you can't really see her face. Like, it's church. Like, whatever. But I. I've always felt like my space was so respected in Houston, which is why when I'm in Houston, I show a lot of love when people do come up.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I feel like watching the anxiety translate on a child, like, she's be like, oh, someone's looking at it, about to come up.

[C]

Yeah, that's scary.

[B]

That's the only thing that really made me aware of, like, ooh, they.

[C]

This one girl, I'm still working at the airport, but when I was pushing wheelchairs at the airport. Oh, my God. This one girl.

[B]

Is it really, like, the Drew stuff. Ski skit.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I swear.

[C]

And I was pushing wheelchairs. This one girl, she literally was staring at me. Mind you, I'm sweating. I done got done pushing this big old in a wheelchair. I'm sweating. She go. She go comment and say, I saw you at the airport. I kept staring at you. You didn't say hey to me.

[A]

Why would you expect me to? I don't know you. But also, like, you know, guys just. I don't assume people know me. I really, really don't. Every single time, I promise you.

[C]

Or if they say. If I hear him say, oh, that's he from TikTok, I'll be like, let me hear you.

[A]

Like, I. Because first things, you know, say you looking at me, right? And you come up to me like, you look familiar. And I'd be like, do I? The one time I'd be like, yeah, you know me from TikTok. They're gonna be like, oh, no, bitch, that is not where I live.

[C]

No, no, no.

[B]

I just.

[A]

It does. I'm not to the point where I feel like I just assume you know, who I am just because you look. Because no shade. Like, I'm a very active person, and I've always been involved in a lot of things. You could very well know me from school, from bsa, from being an aka, from all this shit that I've been involved in. Why would I assume that you know me from this? And so it's like, I don't approach like that. I try to be very much like, well, what's up?

[C]

Like, this one time I told somebody was my twin. They was like, are you from TikTok? I said, no, that's my twin. Twin.

[B]

Just silly. Just lying.

[A]

I don't know who that man is.

[C]

They was. They was like, no, it ain't. No, it ain't. I said, yeah, it is. That ain't me. I don't know who that.

[B]

That's my twin.

[C]

But, yeah, I mean, having. I feel like that's one of the important things about being a content creator. You have to make sure your mental health is all the way there. You have to be prepared. Go to therapy, go to. Talk to somebody. Especially in my community, talk to somebody. Black men, specifically.

[B]

Say that one more time into the character.

[C]

Black men go to therapy.

[B]

You know what else bothered me? Since we're getting all of our agreements out, I hate how folks will be like, content creators, don't owe us nothing, and then proceed to tell us what we owe you. So do I owe you something or not?

[C]

Because even if you think I owe you something, I'm not gonna.

[B]

I'm not gonna make that video about it. In my response video, I said, at the end of the day, I'm still a from Sacramento. Let's start there. I'm. And if you've been following me a second, I haven't always been nice. I feel like actually all of us and I want to give you all your propers. I feel like we've all matured online. So it's like for you to think that you was gonna catch me every single day on a good day. And it's not gonna give a little bitchy sometimes it's crazy. You don't really follow.

[C]

Like Meg said, everybody has bad days too.

[B]

Like, yeah, I'm not gonna be all.

[C]

Smiling, I'm ready to spongebob type.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And I'm at work or I'm trying to get something done at the grocery store. I'm trying to do my errands or whatever. And you expect.

[B]

Because one thing about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My mood thrown off for the day. Actually no one talks to me.

[C]

Like if me and him get into it.

[B]

Oh, I'm over now I'm pissed off.

[C]

Like, I Nobody get out my face.

[B]

Get out my face. I hate when you into it with your cuz that especially when you got to go to work.

[C]

When y' all be arguing at work.

[A]

Arguing at work is so no that anybody get.

[C]

Damn it.

[B]

And it's like, sorry, y'. All. We all going through the same.

[C]

We normal people. Like, we literally are black folks. We still low key. We are still normal black kids, which.

[A]

Is why you want to. I am the most. And I think that's what I want people to understand. That's the gaggest part about it. My life is so. My life nothing. The only thing that has changed about my life is that that is the content creator. That's right. And so it's like I have my same friends, I do my same little events. It was so funny because when we had went to Mardi Gras Mobile, somebody was like, what you doing out here? I'm like, baby, my daddy's from Mobile. I've gone to Mardi Gras several years.

[B]

I'm really visiting family out here.

[C]

That's why I love going. Like sometimes I love going back to my hometown. Cause everybody still treat me like I'm from there. Like, they still. Everybody I went to school with. It's normal. Like, I ain't got to worry about nobody coming up to me and nothing.

[B]

You, you, I Know you said you'd be out the way, but you still kick it with your same friends.

[C]

I still got the same girls I was friends with elementary school, middle school, high school, then the same college. I still. Now I know y' all are met in college. Now I got college friends, but I don't talk to them like that. I talk more to my high school, high school, middle school. Like, they come over to the house all the time.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah.

[B]

I, I think the one thing I'm appreciative and I, and I. This is a plus. I'm appreciative for the Super 5 because I feel like we lucked up and met some real. Because we could, you know, When I hear other content creators talk about their experience with creators, I'm like, that really haven't been my experience. Like, when y' all see us out now, it's like, this is like a genuine friendship at this point. Like, I really enjoy these people. We really check on each other and it's like. But it's made me hyper aware to, like, fakeness. So when it comes to content creators who maybe approach on like, oh, let's just be content creator friends and make content. We don't even all make content together.

[A]

We, like, we're literally just never make content.

[B]

Like, y' all know lies. Cam. Cam is sitting here. Cam is here.

[C]

My boo, my sister is here.

[B]

Hey, guys. He's controlling the camera. Like, we're just, we're just cool.

[C]

Yeah. Like, this whole time we've been in Atlanta for one music fest I haven't made. Not now, one concert. Content with y', all, like, yeah. At all. Because I like living in the moment.

[B]

Like, yeah.

[C]

When it comes to me and my friends, I like living in the moment. That's why you rarely see me post my friends on Tick Tock.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then on top of that, I don't want my friends to go through what I go through. Like, they know them from TikTok and they my friend. Now they about to start coming up to them. Don't do that.

[B]

That's why my cousin didn't want me to put her on days when we were living together. She had someone come up to her and she said, actually, don't put me on camera no more.

[C]

Yeah. I'm surprised he ain't said it yet because they come up to him. I'm surprised.

[B]

I've been telling Derek, stop putting my mom on camera. We don't need that. Please don't go up to me.

[C]

This one girl. I put my mama on Tick Tock one time and this one girl knew her from Tick tock. I said, only. It's only one video.

[A]

They. Someone came up to my aunt. Mind you, I. My aunt doesn't live in Georgia. I see them maybe once a year on a good year. She called me one day. She said, you will not believe what just happened to me. I'm at the counter.

[C]

You got an older family like me.

[A]

Some little girl gonna come up to.

[B]

The counter and say, oh, my God, you're Jamila's aunt.

[A]

And I said, bitch, what the hell do you know? How do you know me?

[C]

That's why I be trying to eat my damn.

[A]

What did I bullshit?

[C]

You know what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong. I be wanting to put him on TikTok, but I don't want people running up to him doing all of that cuz he got anxiety and he.

[B]

Yeah, tr. Please don't come up to my. They know. Don't go up to Pat. Please don't go up to auntie. Mind you, her name on Tik Tok is Auntie Pat. Well, it is.

[C]

Your mom comments on my videos all the time, but she is funny. Your mom's a key. Love her down.

[B]

She's.

[C]

Love her down. She's funny. Love her.

[B]

Shout out to D. Love, dog.

[A]

Y' all pray for me. Y' all don't have a parent trying to make tiktoks.

[C]

Yeah. Cause my mama so.

[A]

Yeah. Imagine one day you woke up and he right, hey, TikTok. And it's your mama. Wait a minute. Now what you do?

[B]

God bless my lady in adventure. Y' all did not give Fred in his Facebook influence era.

[C]

I feel like our parents went through like a little Facebook. Yeah. My mom feeling her Facebook Aaron.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Take a picture of like a OG.

[B]

From a certain generation. I used to be like, daddy, delete this.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Politically incorrect.

[C]

Yeah. That's just. Why. What's the face of daddy on Facebook? What's his name? Malik. Have you been seeing. I'll be seeing his videos about even talking about his daddy be posting on Facebook.

[A]

Yes, I seen.

[C]

I'm like, oh, my God. I would be so like, please stop doing my almighty dad. Stop.

[B]

Hey, you know, the thing is, my dad, especially when he was in Facebook times, was so rogue. He could not be controlled. Like when they dropped. When I say I felt Alandria so bad when they. When they found out, heard that he was a gd, I said, because that's exactly my.

[C]

And they just knew they had some. And you think he know What a.

[B]

Zionist eating don't even know where he is. You think this nigga from Alabama knows about a Zionist? He don't give a bust you a damn.

[C]

All he know. The only Zion he know is Andy's.

[B]

I'm like.

[C]

He records Israel.

[B]

Are y' all stupid?

[C]

He doesn't even know, okay?

[B]

Us Nibbles and wonder us is the fact that we all laugh like we didn't even get mad.

[A]

Like, I'm not even gonna defend or I'm just gonna laugh at y' all for y' all not knowing how we operate. And again, you shouldn't. So thank you. Thank you for not being in our business. Don't worry about it, boo.

[B]

Cause right now, y' all in the kitchen, I don't even understand what's fucking talk about.

[C]

Like, even my Grandma, who is 81, don't even know what's going on. Like, she don't know what a Zionist is. She end up like, I would expect my mom, my grandma or my mom, who's 60, to know what a Zionist is. Like, come on, girl.

[B]

Like, and that is good and bad about our people. To sometimes be like, now what is. You sound like 1980 right now. Shut the upper.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And they.

[A]

Oh, and I. One thing about it, y', all, we got to stop announcing our ignorance. I tell you that. Cause sometimes you can't help with what you know. You can't help it. So I get it. But, baby, don't get up here on this Internet telling us that you stupid. And you just act that guy. I'll be like, delete this.

[C]

Delete this. I'm gonna come in, delete this. I'm asking you to have time.

[A]

I'll be like, oh.

[C]

And they just be so competent. Like, just so.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I.

[A]

You know what? Something that people do. And I'm gonna use somebody as an example. Something that people do that makes me laugh every time is they'll ask a question knowing it's a crazy ass question, it's loaded. And then when they get keyed, they'll be like, I was just asking the question. My bad. Well, when Ari had said, uh, oh.

[B]

And I say I had a cause, they was like, no.

[C]

Are you talking about what she said about the home cutting thing?

[B]

They was like, mecca, what you think about?

[C]

I wasn't even gonna say nothing about it.

[B]

I wasn't.

[C]

I'm glad you brought that up.

[B]

Now, let me say this. Ahrii, she did start it when she said, well, I just have a question. Cause y' all know I didn't go to college. And that's why I'm not gonna answer you. Okay.

[C]

So why I'm not gonna answer you.

[A]

Because.

[B]

And that's no shade. You know, they gonna call us some. That's not.

[A]

Well, I just think even if I.

[C]

Didn'T go to college, you should still know that I was going on come up for Argyle.

[A]

You know what I mean? My thing is, I think sometimes people pose things as questions so that they can kind of have like a protective barrier against. Cause it was like I was just asking the question. Y' all mad? No. People aren't mad cause you're asking questions. They're mashing it. Number one, you know, you was trying to be shady.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

A grown. Because why would you say grown adults? You know what I mean? Like, y', all, if you're gonna be saying, baby, stand in the shade, I'm.

[C]

Glad you brought in.

[B]

I didn't mean. You must say, okay, let's talk about it. Because I purposely. I was gonna talk about it, but then I said, I don't even feel like this today. But I do want to say.

[A]

Dramatic cause.

[B]

Dramatic cause I'm fear.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Homecoming has always been for the community. Right? Like Hampton's homecoming was something that Hampton. The city came down to. Atlanta is Now Atlanta. But 50 years ago, it was Atlanta and Spelman and more. I'll see Claudia still hearing homecoming was a C event. Hong Kong after Beyonce did homecoming. HBCU homecomings have become a bit more commodified. We are seeing sections in hookah at homecoming. We didn't have that when I was in college and we had the big bop of. We had to say we had that. I'm not saying y' all can't come. It's. It's always been a community.

[C]

And I'm not saying you don't need to have sex, you know, hooga. But why be that in sexual at homecoming? Fellowship?

[A]

Because in sexual at homecoming, nobody should have to pay for them. You should have just donated that. Because that was the. That was the essence of homecoming.

[C]

You shouldn't even be paying $78 of material.

[A]

You actually shouldn't be paying anything towards your gay block. That because. Tailgates, like, especially in the South, y' all know, tailgates.

[B]

The tank getting is very.

[A]

It's. It's commonly known that tailgating was always the cheap portion to the game. Because you don't have to go to the game because the game over there, we gonna tailgate trying to pay for the game.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The only thing you were supposed to pay for is your portion of the liquor. If you bring in the meats. Who grilling. You know what I mean? And was it.

[B]

Let me just add one more thing.

[A]

Come on now.

[B]

If you was gonna pay for anything at the tailgate, and I'm speaking as someone. We was in College from 2014 to 2018, you not. You don't pay a.

[A]

She. Like graduated twin swing. You know, you know, you know, you know, it took me a little while. Extra cookie out or that was extra.

[B]

You don't pay to get into tailgate. If you wanted some food. Maybe you had a tent and you had to buy rich dads for the tent. That's how it was when I was in college. So see that you have to pay to get into the tailgate. Then it.

[C]

And then you gotta pay for the section. Then you gotta pay for the hookah. Do you got. Why are we having bottle girls at. What is that a doll?

[A]

A U?

[C]

That's not. And I went, mind you, I went to home. I went to HBCU homecomings, and I went to PWI homecomings. Cause my cousin went to a pwi. Still the same shit. But you never paid.

[B]

You never paid.

[C]

We had started doing this after Covid is fine.

[B]

I feel like after Covid, you know.

[A]

Actually, what I think happened. I actually don't think it was directly related to Covid. What I think actually happened is once people started to redo homecomings with COVID what happened was a lot of people started posting content about homecoming. And so then it became like, oh, what's this Big ass revit versus the people already knew. So then it became this thing that was popularized.

[B]

Aren't they at Coachella doing the ABCU holding? Want to experience a HBCU homecoming?

[C]

Yeah. And then that's what made people start going to our homecomings, too, because they want to experience our culture of home.

[A]

Yeah. And it's crazy because, like, now you'll see people doing, like, homecoming tours, which is, again, it's fine. I wouldn't preface it by as you fine. I'm talking about this.

[B]

Under five rides.

[A]

You know what? Now I want to say this really quick because some of y' all have gotten your twisted. I made a video about this, but I was coming from a nuanced take, specifically talking from the industry perspective. Right. Some of y' all got that twisted. As if I said, you cannot critique the show or that I'm not downplaying the show. I think I made it very clear. My. If you. And you've got.

[B]

Then I'll be listening.

[A]

The script was horrible.

[B]

And then. Did you watch your work?

[A]

No, I should watch it.

[B]

I'm not watching it.

[A]

That's not something that I would watch.

[B]

For you of it. Yeah, I felt like I watched.

[A]

I. I don't need to. And that's why I said I. You ain't got to worry about me, baby. Because I'm not gonna watch it. And not even like on some I'm protesting otter. Yeah, it sounds like a stupid ass show. And that's no shade. It's not. It don't sound good. And the clips that I've seen on TikTok don't see Tubi. It's like.

[B]

And I look like Tuli. I want to say that same. Okay, I'm a to be black now. I'm a Tubi black.

[A]

I just needed to make that very clear. I'm out and say you paint.

[C]

I just feel like it shouldn't have been made at all. Like I said, like, why did you. What was that?

[A]

I just think that y' all saying Keke Palmer is going to be the detriment of black people is taking it too far. Y' all always like, drag it. Like, bitch is not that deep. It's a corny ass show that's coming out, baby.

[C]

And then I was talking. She's a theater kid. So what. What you expect?

[A]

Like, then I'll be saying, oh, honey child, that's a good old script. Oh, that's a good. Now that's Cebu, huh?

[B]

She probably didn't even read that. Interesting. If they had made it like an ensemble different world. Instead of making the Asian girl, I think she's specifically Korean the focus because they have alibi black people at Handsome. That was a nasty foreign exchange. So I'll say I'm like, you could have definitely got that off.

[A]

And that's why I said in my video, it's actually comedically hilarious that this script took her 10 years. I'm like, this is a very much 2015 ass idea.

[B]

Who took it 10 years?

[A]

The best. She said she had the idea 10 years ago and it took her 10 years to get to this point. I'm like, that makes sense.

[B]

She had it when she was in college.

[A]

My thing. No, that was just when she. I don't know if she was in college. I don't know how the label.

[B]

My thing is she couldn't go to.

[A]

She said she developed good idea 10 years ago. And 10 years now is when I'm saying that makes sense to me because that is not a very. She didn't see their idea.

[C]

Why she just didn't not saying like, oh, Asia can't go to the hbcu. But why? Yes, she grew up around black folk. But why? You just did have her get re in touch with her Korean side. Like she met up with other Koreans.

[A]

That were Erica park in that movie or that show. Because I seen it on TikTok. That baby says I don't have to live the black experience because I was raised in it. Click, that's all you.

[B]

And mind you, I got the cornbread.

[A]

Like cornbread, cornbread.

[B]

I grew up with an Asian who was doing foster care with someone I went to church with. I mean, I put the picture on TikTok because he was real nice to me at the time. But you know, I feel like it made me laugh because I'm like, this is a real experience. And I don't think it went like this. From what I remember, he was.

[A]

People who are in that experience don't act like that.

[B]

Nash was preaching now, was he a huge famous belt buckle and a Jesus peace chain? Yes, he was. But I think that's cause he left his older brother. Yeah, but he didn't. He was so. I just remember him being so like, quote unquote normal. Like he wasn't really acting like a character. It was just like, I don't know, you can.

[C]

We're not single. You don't have to. You can't take down. You know what I'm saying? But don't sit here and put on.

[B]

This whole what's up, man?

[A]

My example I'm always going to give is pow wow. As you know, a Texas native, Paul Wall grew up around black folks in the hood. He's very, very well respected, yet he had posse. He don't say nigga, he got a black wife. He's very much inundated in black culture, but he never tries to out talk nobody. He's never trying to censor himself into blackness and it's possible. And his accent is regional. Clock it. I don't know why the fuck you. Your ass sound like you from Atlanta and you was in Michigan.

[C]

What the hell, nigga, why do you have straight backs? What's going on?

[B]

What's. That's what I'm saying. Like this little boy I used to be at church with, he never did the most. And that's my watching this. Like. And to your point about when you someone like Pawwa, you grew up in it. I feel like the people who really grow up in it aren't black if they really were raised by black people. They don't. They don't do all that because at the end of the day, you respect your family. If my snoo raised me as black, I respect on it. So I'm not going to do too much to, like, disrespect my mom or what she got going on. Kind of the same way how y' all show up in white spaces and y' all respect their spaces, and y' all just try and blend, and y' all don't do too much. The assimilation, and y' all just get with. Get with the white women, get with the white boys, and exist as yourself. You still go get your wig, you still go get your duh. But you're not overly like, hey, Connor.

[A]

You see.

[B]

They can do that.

[C]

Mm.

[A]

Yeah. Well, shout out to Southern Frog.

[B]

Did you see the tweet that someone was like, this is for my love island. Be on the villa watcher. It's almost. I can't believe this is what Cordell was in the Atlanta Phillies.

[C]

Like, mind you that my baby wants.

[B]

To be an actor real bad. I really respect Cordell.

[A]

Y' all should watch it to. To give Cordell his views so that he can get some more Y. Y' all go watch. Go watch shrimp fried rice. So the character is Southern. Southern fried rice.

[B]

I love shrimp fried rice too. Shrimp fried rice goes crazy. I mean, and this is the other part that gagged. I watched the out of, and I don't know what type of age she was. She said, just heard about a show about a Korean girl, but it's called Southern fried rice. Fried rice is like, Chinese.

[A]

I saw that too. And I said, well, it's ego.

[B]

It's just.

[C]

It's just for sure.

[A]

I said, oh, I understand the point of it. And I'mma say this as, you know, as a writer myself, sometimes you got to go back and crunch that paper sometimes. And the reason I noticed is because when me and my writing partner were writing a show, we started writing this show in about 2017, 2018, and we picked it back up around 2021. We was like, let's reread it so we can feel what we're feeling now when I tell you we had to go back. Oh, we got. That's.

[B]

No, that's.

[A]

This don't. No. And that's. That happens all the time. And as Norma. So I said, like, girl, you had this. This bitch in the bank for 10 years and you didn't go back. Like, you know What? This song 2020, probably.

[C]

It probably could have been a good show. If she would have just changed the storyline. If she would have just changed the storyline.

[A]

My criticism to you as a writer and producer myself, sister, you could have simply tweaked a little bit of that script and you could have still get simply de centering that Asian agent.

[C]

I would not just like disentrate her and put. Cause wasn't her friend like pregnant or something?

[B]

Her sister and can't go to college.

[A]

The sister can't go to school cause she's pregnant.

[C]

Wasn't her sister Asian too black?

[A]

You mean to tell me your black ass.

[C]

Oh, so she was adopted by black mother.

[B]

Yeah. Yes.

[C]

So why could the story revolve around a sister going to college pregnant?

[B]

Why couldn't it revolve around both of them? Because they're both. I was gonna say both fucking weird. But not like you're Asian and you're gonna have a baby. We're sisters. We're going to college. We have to figure them.

[C]

I went to school with women that was pregnant in college.

[B]

Baby, I'm glad to get pregnant.

[C]

I wasn't normal, but it was.

[B]

She came.

[A]

She can't go to college, but she can work at Burger King.

[B]

Those that.

[A]

But the sister can't go to college. You didn't think that throw sister. You didn't think that through.

[C]

And all I'm saying, you can tell this around 2015. You still. Why you together?

[A]

Because it was the DIY people of it all. In that era when we were big, they were foolish. They were focused on writing and producing pieces that were, quote unquote, thought provoking and woke. But in a cringy way. It's always kumbaya crazy. That's just anxiety. No, we're not there anymore.

[B]

But I will said this gives your white people. Yeah.

[C]

And I did not white do white people.

[B]

I didn't.

[A]

The movie was cool. The show I've never seen Genie. I'm only seen the movie was cool. The show I run ish a little bit big. Groundish was sick.

[C]

Grownish was cute. It was cute.

[B]

I never finished it, but it wasn't.

[A]

I think it was cute for its. For its age range.

[C]

Right. Is this what you going like you? Yeah.

[A]

Y' all different when y' all freeform.

[B]

That's Absp Family. That's his ABC fam.

[C]

They know I do think they doing the. Are they doing the 25 days of Christmas this year?

[B]

And they used to do the 31 day for Halloween and that was.

[C]

I seen nothing about it. AMC been doing the Halloween Movies though.

[B]

Spring form also, y'.

[A]

All. I don't be on cable, so.

[B]

No, I don't.

[C]

Oh, you stream?

[A]

I don't.

[B]

Do you still be on cable?

[C]

Sometimes.

[A]

My daddy YouTube TV account so if I walk it, but I don't.

[C]

Mama house. She streamed the best dude got cable. This dude got time on the cable. Well respectful.

[B]

So mom has DirecTV still. So true her get the disc with the dish by the Shane. I'm gonna let that direct go.

[C]

What? My mom had a level of time work and we had since we moved in that house in 99.

[B]

Cause Time Warner, y' all is looking like direct. I said Time Warner. That's older than direct.

[C]

Yeah, Time Warner is old, but now it's called Spectrum.

[A]

I'm gonna say that's not even a thing no more.

[B]

I have spurious speed, but I have the free.

[C]

Yeah. Atlanta. Atlanta. Xfinity too. Ain't y' all big things? Xfinity, yeah. Usage is too at the Xfinity. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, we're gonna bring you into our segment called Spin It. So I'm really excited about this. Cause we're gonna have you chime in. You know, we typically give a little bit of advice to our crew. So I'm gonna let Mecca introduce the segment while I pull ours up and then we're gonna pull you in in a second.

[B]

Welcome to our segment Spin. Now this is where Jamila and I take your nasty good, good, low down situations and we give you some advice and more importantly, to give you a PR spin. Now keep in mind, Jamila and I are not PR professionals. We just study communications in undergrad this week. Google, you have dad pupping us. If you want to email us your situations, please email nhingmoralpodmail.com. don't forget to include your race, your age, your political affiliations, your sexual orientation, and if you're a man, your height, it does matter. Jameela, what do we have is we.

[A]

And I do want to preface this by saying, although you can tell it's your political affiliation, this is a let Lean podcast be it your.

[B]

Oh, I'm a MAGA ass. Yeah. What is. And please don't send us any news. We've learned from Barnes.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Boom.

[A]

So we got a long one. So y' all already know I'm going to fuck this shit up and stuff.

[C]

So I'm.

[B]

Here we go.

[C]

Read over.

[B]

Ah, okay.

[A]

Hi Mecca. I already messed up. It says hi Jamila.

[B]

Please.

[A]

Hi Jamila. Mega. I just wanted to start off by saying I love your podcast and tune in every week faithfully and is subscribed to the Patreon as well.

[B]

Period.

[A]

I love watching how much y' all have grown and can't wait to see what's next for you guys. Let's get into this spinning. I will try to provide as much info as possible.

[B]

Boom.

[A]

I'm currently 22 year old black woman from Hawthorne, California. This is hard to explain but he was but he okay, but he was my boyfriend of six years. We can call him R22 as well but we decided he wanted to take our first break December claiming he needed a break to focus on himself. Strike one. I felt that was kind of bullshit because we just made a year in our apartment so our lease is not up until December 2025. But I also emphasize given we had been together since 15 since we were 15 so we haven't had an experience. Had had the experience of being our own person. I later found him texting a girl, flirting. I crashed out, he apologized and we kind of moved on from it. I regret that so bad. After that I decided I'm joining the military to get my life together for free schooling. But I been studying for the test so I can get a shit date.

[B]

Pause did you go to the military for that?

[A]

N recover that N We've been basically still playing house, not really making a label what the fuck we actually are doing and got going on. Also to add a few days ago he posted a video of himself and the same girl he was flirting with was in the comments. I clearly was annoyed because I thought he blocked that bitch but didn't do as much. So in my mind we really not together. It was like a oh okay moment but he's making it easier for me to detach after that it was until one night he came home from work. He works nights, I was asleep and he went through my phone and saw me texting a male friend. Can we call him A to give context? I've known a longer than my boyfriend but we've never been sexual or even flirty. Just the cool ass homeboy who I give good laughs with or get good laughs with in the messages it was strictly that and us maintenance, some plans to go horseback riding in the future and us go onto the phone. Baby you got to work on these these sentences R completely flip saying I'm dear and why am I laughing with this nigga etc and how we not together no more for real. And he's been completely ignoring me and been sleeping in the liquor room. He's also been leaving without telling Me where he's going. I just hate how he's trying to villainize me as if I did something wrong. Is there any way I can spin this situation or am I dead ass wrong? And should I try to apologize? Apologize. Stop. Sorry.

[C]

That's a lot going on, baby.

[A]

First of all, clearly ain't nobody told you this before, so I'm gonna be the one to break it to you. That nigga has already cheated on you multiple times, and he's trying to find a reason to break up with your ass so he cannot feel guilty that he the Abu.

[C]

That's why.

[B]

Cuz that.

[A]

That.

[B]

No, what you were saying. I said, oh, he's trying to find his way out.

[C]

Then let's go back to the part where you join the army. Did you join the army for that?

[B]

Hello.

[C]

Or did you join the army cuz you want to join the army?

[A]

Cuz you said, see, get your life together. After that, girl, it's a bullying. So I think she just. She said to give her life together. And I went on, why you thought that joining army was going to get your life together? She said on those, especially right now, it's gonna fuck you up, Mo.

[B]

She said she was going to school.

[C]

Freedom. Oh, okay. So she was my paper stool.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

To her army for that.

[A]

She said, oh, my gosh.

[C]

Like, after. Honestly, after she said I go into the army. That's not just that I said, it's.

[B]

Just that I'm doing it.

[C]

And then. Okay, yeah.

[A]

First of all, that's my favorite meme of Nita, because, girl, what do you mean? You signed a lease with someone who y' all having difficulty claiming asylum.

[C]

Okay, and how long was they living together?

[A]

They've.

[B]

Okay. They've been together since they were 15. They're 22 now. They've been living together a year.

[C]

So they was together when they was 21. They was living together when they was 21.

[B]

It sounds. She didn't say this, but it sounds like they're a back and forth since they were 15.

[C]

She moved you young.

[A]

I hate when y' all send me shit about y' all high school lockers.

[C]

Yeah, just you young. I already know y' all got together.

[B]

When you wash, but she said that she feels like that's why he pulling away, because they only.

[A]

That's why you should.

[C]

And that's why you should pull away, too. Cause they only know each other and they're they teenage years and they beginning of their 20s together. Hold on, y' all still. You still gotta let me recommend you.

[A]

Gonna Hate to hear this sister be a whore, but I gotta tell you.

[C]

Oh wait.

[B]

You'Re in the wrong.

[A]

Let me tell you why. He has tried to get away from you several times and keep pulling him back. So now he feels like the bad guy. That's why he had to go to that phone. And he was gonna find the first thing it could have been your daddy. He was gonna find the first thing. He was talking to a make of the issue. He wants to be set free, bitch. He wants to go fuck other bitches. Little let him because you should. Well, so there's no reason why you trying to hold on to that 15 year old dick. Well damn.

[B]

That's not 22 now. It's 22 now. And also if y' all didn't. If y' all didn't have that lease.

[A]

Together, you'd have been gone.

[B]

Cause if you remember, she found it. They signed a lease. She found stuff. Then he. They were trying to figure the only reason he was trying to figure it out because they said I don't need to wait till December. That yeah, like if y' all didn't have that lease.

[A]

He only apologized to you because y' all have been messing each other since he was 15. He has a little bit of respect for him saying that he ain't dead ass. He is. But that's why he's definitely down. That's why the chief out and he eating their ass. Yeah, he ain't never ate your ass.

[B]

Probably because what you mean to put you at first months ago.

[A]

He never eat the first. Bishop was under the picture.

[B]

If it's still under the picture. He been her every week and you said he not Come on.

[C]

If she still comment under his tissues and shit.

[B]

And he's not finger popping at all. Yeah, pumping each other down for real life.

[A]

The fact that she's in her comments. I know that that bitch is older than him and nothing about an old ass bitch like I'll be at them in the comments if I feel like it.

[C]

And they don't give a fuck. He dumb compared to me.

[A]

Hello.

[C]

You ain't gonna do shit to me. So forgive a fuck. I want to be a donkey.

[B]

Yeah, that.

[C]

Leave him alone. Good luck in the army though. Is you still going Bongo? Are you being Quincy going for the man?

[B]

She says the siblinga sentenced. She was going to get her life together and get free schooling. She did say that.

[A]

Yes, but it was right after she said all the things about the movie.

[B]

I was so upset. But it wasn't the free schooling wasn't the first thought you should act.

[A]

I don't trust you.

[C]

But it just seemed like you going.

[B]

And he said she wasn't studying for her test so she can get a lettership. That. So you're not serious about it?

[C]

Yeah. You're not serious. You want to see what you know.

[A]

That just called me sister. You scored low on that ass fat. You finna be cleaning the clothes, bitch. You might want to go study.

[B]

Can you open his back up so I can just. I can just skim over the knee?

[A]

I know exactly what that mean, girl.

[C]

And then he. He waiting for you to leave him the alone. That's what it is. That's what it is. He wait. He waiting. He wants you to leave the girl.

[B]

Leave him.

[C]

He.

[A]

Yo, y.

[C]

It's time to let Dan go.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And y' all been together since Y' all were 15?

[A]

Yep, yep, yep.

[B]

And the fact that he was willing to tell you he wanted to break up with you while you was living together. He said he's a focus on himself.

[C]

So now I agree with you. Sorry, Sipka.

[B]

I was going to say he has. I'm currently 22 years old. He decided he wanted to take our first break. So you have done multiple breaks. First breaking the standard, saying he has no date. Are going to focus on the ladies.

[C]

Sorry, sister Sledge.

[A]

You're done.

[C]

You're done.

[A]

And so is he. Yeah, baby.

[B]

You can't spend.

[A]

You have to.

[B]

Only he was trying to get away from you bad because he told you this. And y' all still had a year left on that damn lease.

[A]

And you should have been using that military detail to break.

[C]

That's why you shouldn't. You should have been going to the military. So we get your money up.

[B]

Hello.

[C]

And d like to get your own house. Get your own. You know what I'm saying? But you trying to go. I still believe each other.

[B]

I'm joining the military to get my life together for free schooling. But I have been. But. But I have been studying for the test so I can get a ship date. Okay, so she has been studying. My bad.

[A]

Okay, well, I don't know when this was sent, but it's almost December now, so you got a couple of options. Um, technically speaking, you can use your military detail to get out of Elise. However, most of the time, you still need 30 days. At that point, you might as well wait till December so that she.

[B]

What are you apologizing for?

[C]

Yeah, what are you A part.

[B]

This boy has you too much of the tizzy, baby.

[A]

You don't need to apologize. You see how she going to the army? Yeah. You simply are. You know what?

[B]

You.

[A]

You have a good chance of being able to reconcile your relationship in the sense of being friends. Yeah, you can go like. Listen, you want to prison. Well, me neither. But you know, some people like to keep that. Yeah, you can have an amicable sleep. Hey, listen, we tried, all right? Okay? We almost made it 10 years, but we did it. I'm going to the army and I'll be stationed in Hawaii. Baby, I can't do this no more. Go be free. And then you get the leg up. Now you got the power because you ended the relationship. Yeah, and before that nigga do, because then you gonna be looking stupid. Then you gonna be wanting him back.

[B]

Just in December 2025. You have two months.

[C]

You have two months. Not either.

[B]

It's October.

[A]

Not even that. A month and a half.

[C]

A month and a half?

[A]

Yeah, you had to start packing.

[C]

November is literally next week.

[A]

Yeah, study for that fucking ass, bab. Cause if your ass is mopping floors, bitch, I'm gonna be very disappointed. Disappointed? You dropped my free schooling to do what? F a blow at the bottom of the ship.

[C]

At the bottom of the ship. At the bottom. She going to the army ship?

[A]

No, the ship is a ship date. So when she e out, she making me either or. Well, whichever one you eat is be careful. I don't play them bottom barrel. You better study for that ass bath which a little young ass. And make sure this only be it. Don't reinvest. Do your first bid. Get your schooling for free. Level up. Make sure you keep level up you sergeant and go as high as you can and make sure you better luck up out of there. Get you 100% disability. Crack your back on your way in. Tell them you can't hear. Tell them you can't see. Tell them you can see people when.

[B]

You'Re mopping the floors at the bottom of the ship. You fall asleep.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Let me tell you.

[C]

Ptsd.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Face somebody pumping firework and you enter.

[A]

Into that 100% disability. You good from there. That's what you do. You talking about spending for that nigga? Spending for that military hoe. That's what. That's what you for spend child. Don't ask me shit else. I don't even want an update.

[C]

Me either.

[A]

Ridiculous.

[C]

Ridic.

[A]

Ridic.

[C]

Lied.

[B]

Isn't the only boy you fucked to. I can't even keep asking question. I'm sorry.

[A]

Too much Amy. You finna go to that situation? It popped out. He A big busy horse and slut.

[B]

Wait, wait. No. But there's silver lining. You're gonna lose your mind in the military and a good animal.

[A]

Get married.

[B]

I was gonna say. They might turn you out. Don't fall for it. Don't fall for it. Just go in there and fuck.

[C]

Go in there and fuck.

[B]

Just go in there and fuck. Don't get married.

[A]

Be careful. Everything is goobi alcoholics.

[B]

And then you chewing tobacco.

[C]

Down a lot of it.

[A]

So you know what I mean? Do what?

[C]

That influence they might be on, you know, they can't smoke weed and they immediately. They might be bumping their cakes and making them tweak out.

[B]

And they love black and mild.

[C]

Yeah, they do everything. I know that's. Dude in the army loves black and mild.

[B]

That's why I smoke Max when I smoke with the military boys. Cheryl.

[C]

Alcohol and wax.

[B]

Yeah, well, you're welcome.

[A]

Thank you guys so much for tuning in to another episode of Unhinged tomorrow. Thank you so much, Daniel, for talking.

[B]

I speak up about to malf harass this Wingstop. We just.

[A]

Well, y' all already know what the deal is. Who? Episodes every single Thursday. Make sure you guys are subscribed to the Patreon. $8 a month. It ain't 5, but the show ain't 10 in. So you can do it. Come on, now. We got to pay these bills, honey. We got to keep the lights on in here, so make sure you all sit around some Patreon. We have exclusive content coming your way and. Yeah, we'll see you guys next time.

[B]

Bye. Bye.