Evolution of Content Creation ft. Demetrius Harmon

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Evolution of Content Creation ft. Demetrius Harmon"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Unhinged & Immoral
• Hosts: Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans
• Production: Diamond MPrint Productions
• Episode: Evolution of Content Creation ft. Demetrius Harmon
• Release Date: March 27, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of Unhinged & Immoral, hosts Jamila Bell and Mecca Evans welcome their first official guest, Demetrius Harmon, a seasoned content creator with a profound journey across various social media platforms. The episode delves into the transformation of content creation over the past decade, the challenges faced, and the insights gained from navigating the ever-evolving digital landscape.

Guest Introduction and Early Content Creation (01:00 - 05:00)

Mecca Evans introduces Demetrius Harmon, highlighting his status as a social media icon and his early involvement with Vine, formerly known as Meech on Mars.

Demetrius Harmon shares his initial foray into content creation:

"It was halfway intentional. I'd be lying if I said I expected it to go this direction. But also, you're in high school and not joining clubs or playing sports. I always liked cameras—the brother was a photographer—so I set up the camera and started talking." (04:00)

He reflects on how platforms like Vine and Tumblr provided low barriers to entry, allowing him to experiment and engage with diverse content without the constraints of filters or censorship.

Tumblr and Exposure to Diverse Content (04:16 - 06:10)

Demetrius discusses the formative role of Tumblr in his life:

"Tumblr was crazy. Like, it was no barrier. You could learn things you never thought you'd learn at 14." (04:44)

Jamila Bell adds her experience on Tumblr, emphasizing the deep and often explicit discussions that shaped their understanding of sexuality and gender:

"I learned about BDSM from Tumblr. But not graphic—it was more about the concepts and fandoms like 50 Shades of Grey." (05:15)

The hosts reminisce about the aesthetic and cultural influence of Tumblr, noting its impact on fashion, art, and personal expression.

Transition Between Platforms and Adaptation (06:10 - 12:04)

As Vine began to decline, Demetrius recounts the transition to Twitter and later to TikTok:

"When Vine ended, Instagram had already started absorbing its features, and I moved to Twitter. Later, TikTok offered creator funds that significantly benefited early adopters like myself." (09:54)

Ryan Reynolds (a co-host or guest, context unclear) criticizes Instagram and Zuckerberg for lacking originality, lamenting the platform's tendency to mimic successful features from other apps:

"Instagram started stories because of Snapchat, TikTok features because of TikTok. They can't come up with original ideas." (08:43)

Demetrius explains how his presence on Twitter’s creator fund allowed him to monetize his content effectively, particularly benefiting from the platform's more supportive monetization structure at the time.

Mental Health Discussions (12:04 - 25:27)

A significant portion of the conversation focuses on mental health, with Demetrius sharing his personal struggles and the role of his content in addressing these issues:

"You matter started from my experience with depression and wanting to provide resources and support through my clothing brand." (19:19)

Jamila Bell and Ryan Reynolds underscore the importance of openly discussing mental health on social media, recognizing platforms as both sources of support and challenges due to cyberbullying:

"Being able to say 'I don't feel good' has changed everything. Social media has allowed our generation to be more open about these issues." (12:33)

Demetrius credits his uncle's encouragement and his own personal losses for driving the authenticity behind his "You Matter" brand, which intertwines fashion with mental health advocacy.

Spin It Segment: Listener's Relationship Dilemma (35:17 - 84:54)

Segment Introduction (50:31 - 51:22): The hosts introduce their ongoing segment "Spin It," where they provide PR-style spins on listeners' salacious and messy situations, albeit with their signature unhinged and immoral take. This episode features advice for a listener, a 26-year-old woman navigating her feelings towards a coworker.

Listener's Situation (52:01 - 74:54): A listener seeks advice on pursuing a romantic interest within her workplace. She describes her attraction to an older, conventionally attractive coworker who already has a child and appears to be a "ladies' man." The conversation navigates through various humorous and candid attempts to provide guidance:

• Demetrius cautions against pursuing someone with existing commitments and highlights the challenges of workplace romances, especially when the other party isn't receptive:

  "You gotta leave that shit alone... You got your whole life ahead of you." (54:33)

• Jamila and Ryan offer playful yet practical advice, suggesting methods to break the ice and read the coworker's interest levels through body language and casual interactions. They emphasize confidence and authenticity:

  "Start talking to a dude who looks alright but isn't throwing all his attention at you. Build confidence through these interactions." (56:00)

• The dialogue includes humorous tangents about dating dynamics, mental health, and personal experiences, maintaining an engaging and entertaining flow despite the serious underpinning of the listener’s dilemma.

Response and Humorous Banter (74:54 - 90:25): The segment transitions into lighthearted banter, with the hosts and Demetrius engaging in playful arguments about relationship dynamics, astrology signs, and comedic takes on dating struggles. This section maintains the podcast's signature unfiltered and humorous tone, ensuring listeners remain entertained while still addressing the core issues raised by the listener.

Audience Engagement and Comments (90:27 - 98:54)

Towards the end of the episode, Jamila and Mecca engage with audience feedback from various platforms, including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. They read and react to comments, showcasing their interactive relationship with listeners:

• Positive Feedback: Listeners express admiration for the hosts’ honesty and humor, with comments like:

  "Love y'all. Hilarious. I look forward to the yap sessions every week." (91:04)

• Constructive Criticism: Some listeners humorously chide the hosts for taking breaks or missing episodes, which the hosts receive in stride:

  "Y'all had me fucked up last weekend. Don't be talking. Don't be taking no unannounced breaks." (93:26)

• Personal Stories: Comments include personal anecdotes and appreciation for the hosts' vulnerability and relatability, further strengthening the community feel of the podcast.

Church Announcements and Future Plans (98:00 - 88:56): The hosts conclude with announcements about upcoming content, including an upcoming merchandise line and plans to feature Demetrius on their podcast. They emphasize the importance of community engagement and tease future episodes, ensuring listeners stay connected and invested in the show's evolution.

Key Takeaways and Insights

1. Adaptability in Content Creation: Demetrius Harmon’s journey underscores the necessity for content creators to adapt to changing platforms and monetization models to sustain their careers.

2. Mental Health Advocacy: Open discussions about mental health are crucial, and integrating advocacy into personal projects can create meaningful impact and community support.

3. Navigating Controversy: The episode highlights strategies for managing online controversies, emphasizing resilience and authentic engagement over reactive measures.

4. Humor as a Coping Mechanism: The hosts and guest illustrate how humor and candid conversations can serve as effective tools for addressing serious topics like relationships and mental health.

5. Community Engagement: Actively interacting with and responding to audience feedback fosters a strong, supportive listener base, essential for podcast growth and relevance.

Notable Quotes

• Demetrius Harmon:

  "Tumblr was crazy. Like, it was no barrier. You could learn things you never thought you'd learn at 14." (04:44)

• Jamila Bell:

  "I've been listening to them since I was also in high school to openly talk about mental health." (18:24)

• Ryan Reynolds:

  "I feel like it has ironically helped our mental health because, of course, cyberbullying. Ah, boo. But being able to have those outlets has also just kind of helped our generation be okay with certain shit." (26:10)

• Demetrius Harmon:

  "I was just trying to help. And then y'all also, like, the same app told me, I love that you're doing this. This is a great idea." (31:40)

• Ryan Reynolds:

  "If this person has all the audacity, what's stopping me?" (95:00)

Conclusion

This episode of Unhinged & Immoral provides a comprehensive look into the evolution of content creation through the lens of Demetrius Harmon’s experiences. The blend of personal storytelling, mental health advocacy, and humorous insights offers a rich and engaging narrative for listeners. The interactive segments and audience engagement further enhance the podcast's appeal, making it a must-listen for those interested in the dynamic world of internet culture and content creation.

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Transcript

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[Jamila Bell]

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[Ryan Reynolds]

Talk Walk in the booth like Naomi on the catwalk and tell them from the jaguar it ain't even right though push me and I might go she ain't getting money. I'm like, what the hype for when the bitches bite flow make my appetite go poof Gone. Voila. Magic looking mad good just to pull up on them rampant. Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged and Immoral. We are so excited today because we have our first official guest of the podcast. Somebody who is infamous. Somebody who I would consider to be a social media icon. No shade. No shade. Formerly known as Meech on Mars, we have Demetrius Harmon.

[Jamila Bell]

Hey. Yay.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yay. So how are you feeling today?

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm good. I went to the gym already. I ate breath.

[Jamila Bell]

Same.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Had a little protein shake.

[Jamila Bell]

Did you go to the gym today, Jamila?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, well, I definitely walked around the house. Got some steps in. Yes. How about you?

[Jamila Bell]

I definitely took a pilates class at 5:30 this morning.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, 5,000. I did have a Pilates class scheduled for this Saturday. I got there wrong location. Whoa. The devil works hard. So I went home. I went home, but, you know, approaching 30. We're in that mode where we're like, let's get her. I'm 28. I'll be 29 in May.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Okay, cool.

[Jamila Bell]

Wait, Meech, how old are you?

[Demetrius Harmon]

I forget that I'm also approaching 30 as well.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, you're our age.

[Demetrius Harmon]

How old are you? I'm 27.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay. I knew we were peers because I remember from Vine.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Why would you be younger than us?

[Jamila Bell]

I thought, that's crazy.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It's the beard. The beard means I'm 40.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay, maybe the beard.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Maybe it's just cause you've been around for so long too.

[Demetrius Harmon]

When I met Kev, he was like, but you're 25. I'm like, yeah. He like, I feel like I've known you for like 20 years.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm like, no, don't we all?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I mean, yeah, yeah, just about.

[Jamila Bell]

Just about, like 15 years.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Has it been 15?

[Jamila Bell]

Yes, girl. Vine was.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It will be in three years.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay, so 12. I was gonna say vine was the beginning of high school. Like, at least sophomore year for us. 15, 16.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

So over a decade, for sure.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Like downloading it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's kind of crazy.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It's really weird.

[Ryan Reynolds]

How was that, you know, introduction to, you know, creating content on Vine? You know, it's a lot different now than it was almost 15 years ago. Was this something intentional for you to start creating content, or were you kind of just like. I mean, hey, whatever.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It was like, halfway intentional. I'd be lying if I said I expected it to go this direction. But also too, it's like, you know, you're in high school and like, I ain't joining no clubs, I ain't playing no sports. And I always like cameras. My brother a photographer, so I used to just, like, set that camera up and get to talking. That's when people used to be on YouTube and talk for like four minutes about one topic, like the hot damn Iraqs or. You feel me? So I'm like, that shit look easy. I can do that. And it was like, I was just doing it to do it, but I was on Tumblr. Don't know about the Tumblr days.

[Jamila Bell]

Don't know about, like. And I love when I find other people who was on Tumblr, like, at that age, because this is like the conversations that people are having now. Like, bitch, we was talking sex theory. Fucking sexual orientation. Is gender real in. At 14, Tumblr was crazy as fuck.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, like, Tumblr was crazy. Like, it was no, like, nothing. It was no. Not even a filter, but it was no barrier. Like, it was like, I'm just learning shit that I never thought I would learn at this age.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And yeah, you were being exposed to every type of content.

[Jamila Bell]

Literally. The sex workers that when Tumblr banned sex work or, you know, that type of content, they all went to Twitter, but they all Used to be on Tumblr. So I, like, learned about BDSM from Tumblr. But, like, not even. I wasn't see. No, listen, I wasn't seeing anything graphic. This is you. I think the 50 shades of gray fandom came out, and motherfuckers was writing motherfucking fan fiction. Like, Tumblr was insane. Y'all just know I was in there reading that bullshit.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Taking screenshots and savings, tingling my pants.

[Jamila Bell]

What the fuck?

[Ryan Reynolds]

That sounds interesting. Yeah. That's actually wild as fucking 14. Your sexual awakening was on Tumblr reading BDSM.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I feel like I wrote that for everybody, though. That makes sense.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Watch your kids phones, please.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But it's very descriptive, and that's what it is. Yeah. Like, Tumblr was very like, oh, like, wow. I'm learning new words, and I'm having that sexual work. And this is crazy.

[Jamila Bell]

It's great fashion. Brianna's.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I feel like everything now is a derivative of Tumblr. Cause, like, Tumblr is, like, where I, like, learn a lot of fashion shit.

[Jamila Bell]

For sure.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You know, like, sexual things, like. You know what I mean? Like art.

[Jamila Bell]

Rihanna just smoking weed.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Curated, like, aesthetics. Yeah, Yeah. I seen a picture of a monk smoking a cigarette on Twitter today. N a quote to me, he was like, y'all wasn't there when this shit hit Tumblr, dawg.

[Jamila Bell]

I wasn't.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm like, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Everything seemed so deep on Tumblr. Like, everything. You could just slap a black and white filter. Maybe one piece of the photo would be in color, and it was just like, wow. I felt this, actually.

[Jamila Bell]

Or you take half of your face. Do you know those pictures? Ugh. And then the Westbrook sisters and Safiyah. Were you. Were you tapped in with the Safiya and all them girls in New York who used to go in the thrift stores and, like, wear the army jackets like salads. Oh, my God.

[Demetrius Harmon]

And then I used to have my little denim jacket. I cut the sleeves off, put the pants on it with the snapback with the leather on it, bro.

[Jamila Bell]

Safia, a moment and don't even know who the I'm talking about right now. I'd be having to check on Sophia sometime. She got a baby now. People probably be doing that to you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, my gosh. It's weird.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Been trying to put a baby on me for 10 years. I got balloons up in my house because my birthday, like, gender reveal.

[Jamila Bell]

We knew it. No, not the baby. I'm talking about people checking on you because they've been Watching you for so long, and it's like, oh, my God, I wonder what that one boy of mine is doing.

[Demetrius Harmon]

So, yeah, it been the comments like, I ain't seen you in forever.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Wow. Okay, so how did you feel when vine went down? Because of course, it's a different situation because, you know, with TikTok, it's like federal. Like, it's a law. Like, that was a whole. I'm like, okay, I don't even know.

[Jamila Bell]

If this is legal.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I don't know what kind of, like, situation we're in. But when vine went down, I remember that vividly. And it was like, so strange because I'm like, damn, I guess that does happen. Like, you know, things don't last forever. What was going through your mind when vine was like, no more. It was rip. Everybody was transitioning on to new apps and things like that. What was like. What was that like for you?

[Demetrius Harmon]

I wasn't really tripping because, like, we was like. Like, they're. They're back end team. You know how, like, TikTok, it might be hard to reach somebody. Like, they had, like, a good team. Especially because a lot of people left the. The app after a while. So they was kind of tapped into people that was still posting content. And for a while they were telling us, like, you know, we trying to make it work. We add long content. We trying to stay, like, relevant. You know what I mean? And it was becoming more and more communicative. Anytime a app becomes really communicative, it's cause something's going wrong, but you gotta tell it was going in the dumps. You know what I mean? For better or for worse. But when it did end, it was like, we already had a warning ahead of time. Like, the lady we was in contact with, her name was Karen. Well, is Karen. She put us hip. But I think vine ended helped my career.

[Jamila Bell]

Know what? I. Not to say that I agree, but if you remember how vine ended, it was like, IG, that bitch, she be stealing everyone's shit. Cause remember, IG started letting you upload videos because of Vine. IG started making stories because of Snapchat. IG want to become more like TikTok because of TikTok. Instagram and Zuckerberg are some motherfucking thieves. They can't come up with original ideas. They had the one and they said, fuck it, we ain't never gonna have one again. So it was like, I can definitely. How you know it didn't really affect you? Cause y'all. Cause I saw a lot of Viners transitioning onto Instagram for like a minute before, like they would put like how we do. Like they would post on vine and post on Instagram, but they had just posted on Vine.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I used to be posted on Twitter a lot more than Instagram. I would post on Instagram. But like, you know, it was such short content that it was like compared to the 15, 30 second skits that N was doing on Instagram, it didn't really work out well. But I had started making skits on TikTok, I mean on Twitter. Cause they had started offering like the creator fund like before they offered it now how they do. And so it was like maybe like 10 of the homies that I know. Oh, that's cool. That's a pizza I was making like.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay, so like now we gotta pay for a check.

[Demetrius Harmon]

When Donald Trump came into office in what, 2016, 2015.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Demetrius Harmon]

So like around that time I had started making like, you need to make like the same way TikTok is where you need to have like a minute video. So I do like little minute skits. But because it was a small amount of people, the amount of money that they was giving out per view was higher. And so it was like a point when like, you know, around that time doing that. But also on vine von get deleted air. But like, oh my God, like they remembering it the same way you remember somebody like die and like act like you loved him more. Boom, boom. So people got like they favorite Viners threads, yada yada. But I'm also getting paid for the views on the Twitter. So when everybody's left vine to go to my Twitter, I'm getting the views and making like thousands of dollars from like these small videos. Because they only let like maybe 50 people in because they was testing it out. You know what I'm saying?

[Ryan Reynolds]

First class. That's crazy.

[Jamila Bell]

That's tea.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It was a great time. They had some real. They had real pay back in the day though. Like if niggas was getting a view, like it's weird now. Like I'll be seeing tweets that got like. Because there's so many people on the app. So many. You got AI and spam accounts.

[Jamila Bell]

Child has to be on Twitter trying.

[Demetrius Harmon]

To find tweets that got like.

[Jamila Bell]

I wasn't on there for no real shit. So I wasn't thinking about no damn skin the way.

[Ryan Reynolds]

The way Tumblr used to be, you know, its own deep cut. Twitter used to be just a place of bullshit.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Oh yeah, debauchery for sure.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And it still, it still kind of has that grit to it. But I think just times have changed in general. And the way Elon has come and make a muck of this damn app, it's frustrating because it's like, even the monetization is weird now. Cause, like, first of all, you have to pay into it. And then it's like, you. There was. One of the requirements is that you have to have 500 followers that have opted in for the premium option. And it's like, girl, how I'm gonna force my followers to pay for this bullshit ass app that you done came and messed up? Like, it's just everything has changed now.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I didn't know that was how I go. Do you.

[Jamila Bell]

You don't have the pre.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, it's so weird. And that's why I just.

[Jamila Bell]

Meech.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I just got. I think. I think. I don't. I ain't got paid for Twitter in a while. Like that used to. That little thing used to come up. Like, you got paid $8 for that?

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So you. But you were verified before the switch?

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, yeah, I got verified.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I think they allowed the. Yeah, I think they allowed, like, the people who already were verified to stay verified, but now it's like, you have to.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Good little grandfather.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm a little grandfather. And that's the proper term.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Hell yeah. Niggas know it. Dang.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, that transition was definitely important. And honestly, I feel like a little bit of TikTok kind of like fake. Fake ending like that little fake out that they did. I feel like that boosted a lot of people's accounts. I know for me, I gained like 20,000 followers on Instagram within a span of like, 24 to 48 hours because people were just so scared to lose me. And I'm like, wow, you guys love me, Y'all.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Like, that work. It's like mass hysteria. Like, I don't know where to go. Like, niggas, you know what I mean? Like, it was cool. I even like, you know what I mean? Even people was using the app heavy, you know what I mean? Like, just trying to soak in all the content they can saving TikToks. And you know what I mean? Like, where can I find you at? Even I was like, hey, man, fuck with me on Instagram.

[Ryan Reynolds]

As if people don't already know you is funny.

[Jamila Bell]

You have made a video being funny. Like, oh, this y'all first rodeo. This the first time y'all losing y'all app. Okay? Y'all will be all right. And I saw that. I was telling Jameela, I seen that video, and that video is what inspired me to, like, get on YouTube and, like, make my little YouTube videos. And that little 48 hours, like, she says she gained. I gained, like, 10,000 followers subscribers on YouTube. I gained, like, 40K on Instagram, which is crazy, right? Unheard of, unfucking heard of, but similar to you. Like, I had shit that, like, was sitting there that was all of a sudden going up, and then I was, like, monetized on YouTube hella quick. Because it's like, I had these videos that are, like, from 2015 up. People are like in the comments, like, oh, my God, Baby Mecca. And it was like, okay, well, I guess that's fun.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Like, 10,024 hours or 48 hours is crazy because, like, convincing people to leave the app that they know you on, it's not like, hey, I'm leaving this app. If you want to find me, go here. It's like, here's some more of me. You know what I mean? People are really like. I don't know, it's weird. People are really stingy with the way that they choose to support and where they choose to show up at. And YouTube is, like, definitely specific because a lot of people don't go on YouTube how they used to anymore. For content. They'll go for like. Like, I know. I just go in there, I listen to Cam and Mace, and I'd be cooking, you know? I mean, I'm not even watching it for real. I'm not commenting, I'm not liking.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm not really on their podcast.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, I thought you were talking music. I said, why you don't just listen to it on Apple or Spotify?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Now, listen, no shade, but you know, he wasn't going out there. That's what's happening with the hill. You know, he ain't going on no maze.

[Jamila Bell]

I said, how many songs they got? You love them niggas.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Old ass nigga.

[Jamila Bell]

And if we're like, nah, that would be crazy.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Look, Jamila, hey, you was the hot Cheeto girl. Ain't nobody know that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, that's what's.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Ain't nobody. What the fuck is that about?

[Ryan Reynolds]

What the fuck? The funny thing about the Internet, and I know you can reconcile this, like, it's so random, and shit popped up like, hey, bro. Happening so random. And things will come back that you never intended, and they'll be flipped and switched and reversed, and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like, when that meme popped up on the Internet, that video had already Been six years old. So I'm like, who the hell found this video, number one? And number two, why is it all over Twitter? So, like, it was a surprise to me. Just, like, it's a surprise for everybody to realize it's me. I'm still like, I don't even know who made it. Cause I didn't make the gif. I never made that. Is it a gif? Like, I'm like, I say gif.

[Jamila Bell]

I say gif.

[Ryan Reynolds]

A gift gif.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, okay. Whatever.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, yeah. N. I would never again.

[Jamila Bell]

It's cool.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hey, hey, it's cool. Whatever the hell.

[Jamila Bell]

Duh.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I wish I could make some money from it, though. Yeah, let me know when y'all from the gift.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Like, come on, you good, bro. You gotta get that to the world.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I guess. I guess that. That is, though. That's really my. And, you know, it's like, you. Y'all welcome. I'm glad I gave y'all some good reaction, you know what I'm saying? And I think it's cool because it really was so organic. Like, I never was trying to make it a thing. It made itself its own thing. And now it's like, now I'm just a part of Internet lore, you know? It's just like, you had to be there. And the people who were there live time with me making those skits so long ago. They, like, still remember. And, like, that's so weird to me. Like, damn. Like, y'all remember my old ass videos that are just 14 years old. That is. That's pretty lit. Like, that's cool.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It's a crazy time.

[Jamila Bell]

We're gonna take a break.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Amber back.

[Jamila Bell]

What's your most quoted video?

[Demetrius Harmon]

Probably the Adam and Eve.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I can see that. That one did numbers on Twitter. Like, I think that was, like.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That one on Twitter was crazy in the world for, like. For that week.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It was going, like. I did not stop seeing it. I saw it every single day, every scroll. I'm like, yeah, that ain't.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That ain't now a big thing. I do, like, when I. When we were doing the videos, especially, like, again, like, at that time, it just wasn't. It was definitely, like, still a place. And, like, people were starting to become, you know, like, more politically correct and more, like, understanding of, like, gender fluidity and things like that. Like, it wasn't the wild, wild west Twitter, but it wasn't, like, how it is right now, where it's just a lot of spam and comments. You know what I mean? I go through the quote tweets and find a quote tweet that I thought was funny and retweet that quote tweet, make that quote tweet go viral, and then that would help me spread the video.

[Jamila Bell]

That's what I do now.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Smart.

[Jamila Bell]

You say something.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, that's the way. That's the way for sure.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You have to interact with it. Like, you really have to play into it. I think also, you know, a part of being on the Internet for so long, like, we're like, truly Internet kids. You learn to kind of like, not let stuff get to you. But I, I, I do have to ask a question and lead into the.

[Jamila Bell]

Wait. We had planned our segue into this. Hold on, let, Let me ask the first question first. Listen, and, and then we get to that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

The thing is, we would not be us if we didn't get a little bit.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm like, I'm like, what the is they about to talk to me about? But I read the title. I said, what are you talking about?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Listen, come on. We're messy. That's who we are at our core. So let's get messy.

[Jamila Bell]

But before we get messy, let's get.

[Ryan Reynolds]

A little bit serious.

[Jamila Bell]

So you and Crystal and Fury on the read were like the first black people, I should say, in general, to be openly shout out to Kristal.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Shout out.

[Jamila Bell]

Love them. I've been listening to them since I was also in high school to openly talk about mental health. Right. And so first of all, I want to know, was that something that you organically were like? Cause, you know, you, you start talking about it after you had your following. So was that something that organically came or like, how did that happen that you were like, you know what? I think I'm just gonna start sharing.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It was Tumblr. It was a Tumblr DNA, like. Cause I was already talking about on Tumblr, but, like, if you follow me on vine, you didn't follow my Tumblr.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, that's a different group.

[Demetrius Harmon]

If you follow me on YouTube, you didn't follow my. Yeah, you feel me? So it's like once, you know, everybody left the app when they, like, being like, sex work and things like that. So naturally, like, the next thing is Twitter. Like, regardless, if you leave to go to Twitter for, like, your sex work, if you go on Twitter to leave, because that's where you can talk at now. You know what I'm saying? And so it kind of just naturally happened because, I mean, around that time, like, my family wasn't really super involved in my life. Like, I didn't really went to a new school with like 98% Arab. So I ain't really talk to them niggas. You feel me, like, having a hard time making friends. So I was just on Twitter or like, just Internet in general. Yeah, Detroit got the. It was in Dearborn. Dearborn is next to Detroit, but they got the highest. They got the highest. Like, I don't want to say import. Import feels weird, but immigrant rate of Middle east crazy.

[Ryan Reynolds]

But yeah, I didn't know that. That's interesting.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah. So that school is like in the middle of like, you know how you got Chinatown? Like Dearborn is like all predominantly. So my graduating class is like 50 years. Yeah. You know, I mean, I was, you know, I mean, like, you know, it'd be there.

[Jamila Bell]

Like it's a. I. I got it. Hold on, I'm almost there. I am, I am, I am.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Same vibe, same same method.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm sorry, that took me back with.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That for 30 hours straight. But yeah, so I was on Twitter just talking. I mean, I didn't really expect it to go nowhere. Cause I mean, I was already making skits and shit. But it felt disingenuous to like, especially thinking of like, people ask me all the time, like, do you prefer Von or TikTok? Like, which one you think better? I'm like, TikTok is definitely better because you can be more of a person with TikTok. I mean, with Von, it's just like it wasn't even anything else. You can't be a cooker. I mean, not cooker. You can't be a chef, you can't be a gym girly. You got six seconds, you know what I'm saying? Like, nigga, you're making a joke, okay? Or you're recording a little bit of a fight, you know what I mean? Hello.

[Jamila Bell]

Hello.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It's not really much that's happening here.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, for real.

[Demetrius Harmon]

And so, you know, Twitter was the next natural place. Instagram's. You gotta be pretty, you know what I mean? Twitter was like, as you said, it's gritty. And so I was just kinda talking about it very openly. And then in that same instance, one of the friends I knew at school, I had tweeted something very, like, depressed. And he see me in school, like, what? See your tweet yesterday? You want to kill yourself? And shame instantly hit me, you know what I mean? But then I'm like, fuck that nigga. You know what I mean? Like, so I started to learn how to be, you know, more if I'M a stand. I'm a stand up.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You know what I'm saying? And so then like through that it was always me just talking for myself and then, you know, you kind of, I, I naturally forget that I have a following, especially around that time where it's continuing to grow and like I don't know where the peak is going to be at. So I was just talking like regular, you know what I mean? Like regular. And so it just was naturally as I'm talking, other people are listening and then they starting to share and then it went in the direction and then you matter started. Yeah, exactly. And then you matter started from. I've had clothing brands since I was like seventh grade or like, you know, tinkered with clothing and like graphic design, stuff like that. I would say writing poetry, writing stories and then graphic design and making clothes was always the medium of wherever I'm at mentally is what's gonna go into the artwork, you know what I mean? And niggas wasn't. If I'm 14, niggas not buying like prints, you know what I mean? Like they. But a 14 year old will buy a shirt from your ass, you know what I mean? And so, and so I made you matter like around senior year. So like 2015, 2016. And it was just shirts at first, but I don't like even like it's so funny every time I do an interview where I say I don't wear shirts usually I usually got like a long sleeve on just naturally from like hiding like self harm and shit like that. A year after I made the shirts, I made hoodies. And that was like again like just for me, like being out in la, depressed, like fucked up, like not really knowing where what I'm doing with my life, kind of just going to win take me. And I think I just had recently I talk about this in my podcast. But like my uncle had passed away and I wasn't gonna release him and I just did like that was the last thing he saw like from me. And he was like, I'm proud of you. You know what I mean? And so I ended up releasing it and then that's when everybody started fucking with it. And at first they just had like a bicep thing where it was like, you know, you matter and like your mental health, your emotions, your artwork, you know, like your art, things like that, you know, trying to encompass that into the you matter, like the things that make you is what matters. And then for the second release is when we put I feel weak by Norm Strong. And that, like, is my own personal mantra. And then from there, it's just been, like, continuing to do the things that I can to help people, or whether that's resources or being a person people could talk to or approach, or using my voice to be honest and not trying to make things so perfect at all the time that I can. You know what I mean?

[Jamila Bell]

That's beautiful naked.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You know, as I was talking about that, I'm like, we about to talk about some bullshit.

[Jamila Bell]

I know, Okay?

[Demetrius Harmon]

I was like, these niggas. I know Elliot when I see one.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. Let's sit in the moment. Let's sit in the moment.

[Jamila Bell]

Let's hold up. That was beautiful.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That was amazing. We love that. And I love that as a black man, to talk about mental health, I think that that's needed. And truly speaking, you honestly were one of the first people who were talking about that life like boys that I saw.

[Demetrius Harmon]

My favorite thing about speaking about mental is my dad has gotten better with his mental health, and my grandma have gotten better with the mental health. So, like, the personal effects that I've had in my life of, like, reaching back to other generations has been probably the most priceless thing about it.

[Jamila Bell]

I've seen that a lot, like, not just, like, in my personal life as well, but, like, across the Internet.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We're gonna take a break. And we're back.

[Jamila Bell]

So I was actually at Kevin's stage show, like, the other day, and he made a joke about, like, how our generation treats mental health. But the joke led into, like, how it's led to older people and people in his age group, like, taking their mental health more serious and, like, taking their feelings serious. So I know. I feel like we get a lot of flack for boundaries, but, you know, like, I feel like that was one of Kev's jokes.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Boundaries.

[Jamila Bell]

But in the long run, like, I think it's gonna pay off and be better for, like, our culture in the overall world in general, too.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Absolutely.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We definitely said, actually, no, I don't feel good. And it was okay. And I feel like that changed everything. And then social media, we're so used to spilling our guts on social media. That's also something that I honestly think has ironically helped our mental health because, of course, cyberbullying. Ah, boo. But I feel like being able to have those outlets has also just kind of helped our generation be okay with certain shit that other generations just were not okay with, like, at all. So I don't know. Social media is tea. I will always be a fan I don't care. I love. I love the Internet.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm such a. Oh, with social media, I'm so tired of the critter coated. Turn your phone off, nigga. Turn off. Like you. You can tell I'm from the first generation. They be going ham on tick. Turn this off. Y'all can't talk to me right now.

[Ryan Reynolds]

No, literally, like, leave me alone, y'all. Now we do have to transition into a little bit of mess, which is honestly, you know, it is unhinged and immoral. That's.

[Demetrius Harmon]

There's mess that comes with me, so I'm happy to be the first guest.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. The day that the first tower was hit was boom. It was a day, truly. I'll never forget. You tweeted something along the lines of, hey, you know my niggas with anxiety and depression. I see you.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That's not how I say it. Like that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hey, yo, hey, yo. You got anxiety hits 15% off a hoodie. Yo, be up. I'm gonna catch you on a flip. That's how niggas read it, right? What's funny is I feel like I seen that tweet so early on, and being able to see something in the beginning stages is. It's so delicious because you watch it unfold, you watch all the things happen. So I saw it beginning. In the beginning, everything was cool.

[Jamila Bell]

It always is.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I needed that. Appreciate you. It always is. And then it takes a turn because it enters the wrong side of the Internet.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That probably is, you know. You know, back in, like, middle school, high school, where it's like, okay, y'all lunch A, y'all lunch B, y'all lunch C. It's certain N that need to be separated. We ain't got separated.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure.

[Jamila Bell]

That's why they had.

[Ryan Reynolds]

What went through your mind when it entered the wrong side of the Internet?

[Demetrius Harmon]

I think at that time, I still was pretty naive. Cause I never received the paid. You know what I'm saying? Like, I make people laugh. So the worst thing I'm gonna get is. This is not funny. Yeah, but I'm. I'm. I'm not a. You know, I mean, like, I'm not thinking of these jokes and like, man, I'm about to hit the big stage. Yeah, open up, Kevin Hart. Like, nigga, I'm making little six second videos at the height I was about.

[Jamila Bell]

To say something so shady.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It's funny. It's not. Go ahead. Go ahead, bro. Go ahead.

[Jamila Bell]

Be like. It's not like you desi. Banks.

[Demetrius Harmon]

All right. Anyways, I fuck with Desi, though. I. With Desi. I'm always gonna with Desi because he did his video where he was acting like.

[Ryan Reynolds]

The reason we allow Desi to.

[Jamila Bell]

Do what he does now is simply off the.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That got it, bro. I think is that. That. That buying the cousin rafters. I swear to God. And the thing is, I remember when that video went up and then he went on a crazy ass. I said, yeah, he can do it. I can do it, too. That mot. Yeah. I didn't care about the shit. I get back from, like, the plug. I get back from jokes. That was the first time where it was like something close to me, you know what I mean? I just explained everything to y'all about, like, what you matter? Meaning where it came from.

[Jamila Bell]

So, like, it mattered.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I had someone shut the. That was low hanging fruit. I wasn't even trying to.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We have to take it.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I had somebody doing fulfillment, customer service, all that. So I would get like, you know, like my little filet mignon part of the house, the ribeye, you feel me? The discount code, I think was, like, it might have been like 50 or, like 60. It was to make it to where it was free, but it didn't also cost me money to give niggas hoodies. So I probably did it, like, before it. Before it went negative. I probably did like, four times. But so imagine the fourth time is like after Adam and Eve, after the Witch Hunt video, you know what I mean? Like, going from like, like 500, 000 viewers to 1.4. So when it's right here at the beginning, it's like, yeah, man, I just. Thank you. And it's really like the DMs, like. And at first it was the DMs, you know what I mean? Because I'm still accessible through the DMs. It's just like, I'm just sending to all the people. Like, that was a big thing, too. Niggas, like, he got people DMing him. They cutting scars and shit like that. Honor Sister. It got so crazy. It got so crazy. And, like, I'd be lying if I say it affected me then just because, like, you know, it's my first time dealing with controversy, and I'm also 20, you know what I mean? Like, I'm also like, a part of that community. You know what I mean? Like, it's like a. It's not like a. I'm above criticism. It's a wait, I was just trying to help. And then y'all Also, like, the same app told me, I love that you're doing this. This is a great idea. You know what I mean?

[Ryan Reynolds]

And that's how they get you.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah. Because you'd be like, yeah, keep doing the bullshit. And so I just kept doing the same thing. Like, you. If you copy and paste that tweet, you'll see, like, multiple tweets, and the conversation around it changes over the course of, like, a year. You know what I mean? But then, let's not forget, it's also, like, being that first person to do, like, mental health, like, merch. Be that first person, come speak for mental health versus now you got $15 TikTok hoodies that mental health matters with the suicide hotline. You know what I mean? Like, I'm also an influencer. You know what I mean? But I'm also a nigga from Detroit. I like jewelry. I like flashy things. You know what I mean? But this is also a business, and I'm also an employee of the business. And, like, that's a big part that people miss is like, no, y'all not paying me, and then I'm just going and spending money. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's just not how it works. But also because I'm an influencer, and I'm, at the time, a really big influencer. I'm getting paid, like, $20,000 from Wendy's, like, multiple times. You know what I mean? So if I had three deals in the course of, like, four months, that's $60,000, you know what I'm saying?

[Jamila Bell]

Damn touching.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I wore a chain, and I'm at a lake.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm gonna do the setup.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I will need your contact. Okay.

[Jamila Bell]

Cats, dog. I see.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yo. Yeah, send me their contact.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But so I'm. I'm at a Lakers game. I got a chain on niggas, like, yeah, I think spend your depression money on. But that's before that.

[Jamila Bell]

That's before that, though, at that one depression money was unfortunately.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I laugh now.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, I get it.

[Demetrius Harmon]

No, I think that I. I think what the fuck nigga said Gloom something. It was a bunch of, like, you know how, like, now they doing, like, chip chatter and, like, they were doing.

[Jamila Bell]

Like.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It was, like, a $10,000 chain because I just told y'all I made 60 for Wendy's. So it's like, what you see of how I could be making money is that. But you're not really thinking or conceptualizing. But it's also, like, it's a fun thing to do. We gonna hate. We Go not even, like, really hate. Like, to where it's like, I have ill intent, but because I'm also a person that's mentally ill. Because I'm a person that cares. Because I'm a person. And I even say I care, but just in care in general about what people think. I've never received backlash. That shit hit me like a fucking. Like a brick. But same thing you said. I just deleted the app, man.

[Jamila Bell]

Turn that bitch off.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But it was hard because it's like. It started becoming like, you know, you not a person. It became a concept. You know what I mean? My name became a topic, and that was weird because no one cares how I feel or think. These aren't no one. This is getting past the point of people that really care about mental health. It's not real criticism. This is coming from niggas that just like, I got a joke.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And there's some people who at some point, clearly have never really interact with you in general. And so once you kind of enter that lane of, like, no return, because it's happened to us as well, it's kind of. You have, like. There's no option but to take a step back because you can't do nothing about it.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Funny enough, I only. I think what made me follow y'all was the controversy. Anytime. Anytime a controversy happened, y'all be like, fuck it. I'm standing on that. And I didn't even. I didn't even know y'all knew each other, like, when she was going on. So then I'm, like, seeing them. Oh, okay. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Okay.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That is so funny.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But, yeah, yeah, you gotta. You gotta deal with it for real.

[Ryan Reynolds]

How would you spin that? So we have a segment called Spin it where we basically take people's scandals and give them, like, a PR Quote, unquote spin. But it's clearly ignorant because, well, it's us.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Cause y'all ignorant real fast.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So Melissa's suggesting we give you our little PR spin. What would we have done in your situation to kind of, like, pivot and kind of just be like, fuck y'all? But one thing about me in a situation like that, I probably would have made it worse just because I would have been like, you niggas are stupid. Like, y'all would have pissed me off.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That's the thing. I'm like. I'm like. Because it's the nigga in me, and I'm like, you fucking. Oh, oh, oh, you niggas are stupid. But you can't. I can't out tweet.

[Jamila Bell]

The public. We were talking.

[Demetrius Harmon]

So it was. It was. It was a fucking meme about the you matter hoodie. Like, where it was like a girl like, what you crying for? Get up here. You matter here. Some shit like that. That shit had 200,000 likes. I said, fuck, they got me. They got a nigga. Damn.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes, for me. I feel like you can come for me if it's funny.

[Jamila Bell]

Yep.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So I don't mind people, like, doing their jabs, because if it's funny, I'm gonna laugh, too. Like, I can't even catch. Got me on that one. So for me, if I was in your shoes and I saw which direction it was going. Cause it was, like, two parts to it. There was, like, the side of people who were being fake woke and trying to pretend like, you know, you were really damaging people's mental health. Y'all shut the fuck up. Cause you're a liar. You don't even believe this. You're trying to sound, like, smart. Shut the fuck up. Then there was a side of people who were just, like, making it such a mockery and, like, a joke. Like, they were just, you know, adding to it. Adding to it. I would have just followed their route, and I would have just played into the joke, and I would just been like, ha, ha. You got me depression hoodies. Like, and then I would have just made a new release. My depression hoodie, you know, limited edition.

[Jamila Bell]

Since we. Since we all come up funny. This is my depression hoodie, you know, And I throw it on when you're feeling.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I do, unfortunately, love dark humor. I feel like dark humor is. I don't know. It's just the way that I've personally gotten through a lot of dark times and things, like. Yeah, I. I don't know. And maybe that's a. You know, everybody don't like dark humor. Sometimes you say it around the wrong crowd. Oh, my bad. I didn't know we was Tinder. Okay.

[Jamila Bell]

My daddy doesn't say something crazy at the funeral off two shots of Hennessy. It wasn't a good fume. So that's already my upbringing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Just the way we measure.

[Jamila Bell]

I have to have a good laugh.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm sorry. I laugh at the funerals. You know, like, there's something's gonna happen at this funeral that is gonna give me comedic relief. Thank you for that. I actually. I actually needed that. We're gonna take a break.

[Jamila Bell]

And we're back.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Can we please have a tangent? Oh, also, we have a. We just started this last episode. What? Where every time we go off on a tangent. We're telling our audience to take a shot because we're full of tangents. So I'm gonna go off on a tangent right now. So, everybody.

[Jamila Bell]

We've kept it good.

[Ryan Reynolds]

At my grandmother's funeral.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Right? Right. Here we are. No, keep going.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Obviously, I didn't. We were all so sad. We were crying so hard, y'all. Y'all would not believe how hard everybody was crying. My aunt's roommate. Not roommate. Her old classmate walks over to my little brother, rubs his back and goes, that's right. She says, it's just one more hurt. It's just one more hurt. And to this day, we say, it's.

[Jamila Bell]

Just one more hurt, y'all.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's just when I tell you things like that, we'll be like, what the. Just one more hurt, baby. Just let it out. Just one more hurt.

[Jamila Bell]

She said, you don't have no more grandparents left. This is the last time you gonna.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Feel like that's like, that's like, that's. That's just one more.

[Jamila Bell]

And you good.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Get to this and you'll be all right. Black people always. You know, she kind of ate that. She kind of ate that. So now, you know, I just, like, one more hurt. One more hurt. Anyways, you matter. Oh.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Oh. But, yeah, all in all. All in all, it's cool. I want to give a shout out to two random people that. Not random. They're the homies. But, like, in, like, times and like that, like, a lot of people that know me, like, no, I was taking that hard because I. I just not. I want everybody to like me. But at least if you don't like me, it. It. Hopefully it's for some idea like you. We don't vibe well this joke too much, any of that shit. But, like, yeah, when it's not on the truth, like, at least for what I think I represent, then, like, it'd be hard for me. I want to. Like, it'd be hard for me to let go. Yeah, I was really suicidal during that time. Just because it was a lot. I was overwhelmed. So imagine, like, you know, like, one. I didn't know it happened. So I just wake up to it, and I didn't have my notifications where it was only people I follow. So it's just like, horrible things you read about yourself, you know, like, if you're an overthinker, you take it in now. It's in mind. And I have an inner mind log, which I. I'm gonna assume both of y'all Do. Cause y'all like, yes, but it's in my voice now, so it's like I'm reading a tweet like, demetrius Harvard should kill herself. And now I'm hearing it in my mind. You know what I mean? Lil Yachty, like, helped me a lot in that time frame. Like, reached out, was, like, there for me a lot. And Quinn Blackwell, both.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, shout out to them. Yeah, my brother's a little yachty.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That was a tough time, but now.

[Jamila Bell]

That's crazy that you brought. No, I. Yo, exactly. Really, like, they could grow up, like. And that's no shade to yachty. But it's like, like, bro, be serious. You are still a Yachty stand in the year of our. Our Lord 2025 is. He loves that man down. So it's. I could definitely tell him, like, hey, sounds like he's decent.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sounds like he's a good guy.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'll be honest. Yeah, yeah. Like, a. A reason why I started my podcast that I do was for that reason is like, oh, a lot of these people are, like, really good, regular people that, like, are good. Friends are good. Like, you know, like, even, like, I talked, like, I want my mom to be on it. You know what I mean? I'm like, yeah, you're a good mom, but, like, you're, like, a really good person.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You know what I mean? Like, who's the person behind the mom title? You know what I mean? But, yeah, yeah. Now, what you matter, though? I stay off Twitter. I don't even post my shit on Twitter, bro. I just be like, what y'all need to see? Cause I post it. Yeah, man, I post that. This still doing this shit. How many times I gotta teach you this lesson? Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Nah, I definitely still see some of the. It's. It's definitely. Of course, not as much. It's more. It's one of those things where if you were there, you remember. So if you weren't there, you probably wouldn't understand what that comment is referring to. But it's like, because I was there, I'm like, y'all is messy. Like, y'all never gonna let that go. But I think it's a. You know, at the end of the day, umatter is still very successful. Like, so. I mean, honestly, sometimes controversy helps.

[Jamila Bell]

You know, a lot of the time.

[Demetrius Harmon]

A lot of times, the first drop after that shit. The first drop after that shit was because that happened after we had Black Friday Cyber Monday. And the reason why I did it, like, again, I always just do it at the End because I share it publicly and it's like 50% off. So it's like, just use the honor system, bro. Like we had, like the last 10 minutes. Just use the honor system. If you just wanted a 50% off hoodie, shame on you. Cause it's. You know what I mean? Yada, yada. But the next drop we had did after that. Cause I was laying low. Was after everybody got their stimulus. Ooh, that was our biggest drop.

[Jamila Bell]

I bet it was.

[Demetrius Harmon]

And I was like, oh, oh. So all this shit was just fake? Y'all niggas don't give a fuck. Y'all ain't fake.

[Jamila Bell]

And that's what it always boils down to.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And that's what it always is. Sometimes people will see you getting to a pedestal and they're like, you know what? This bitch is too goddamn happy. Let me knock that bitch down real quick. Let me humble this hoe. And so I think that's what it is a little bit too. Because when our scandal started to kind of happen, I saw people saying things about me that I'm like, oh, bitch, you just lying now. All right now, hoe. Cause now I'm just. Oh, all these things. Like, I don't even.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm such a funny person.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, bitch, hold on. This thing, bitch, now is. Oh, I been hated this light skinned bitch. No, hold on now.

[Jamila Bell]

Hold on.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know what I'm saying? I been said, this bitch play too much. Oh, now I play too much. You were just laughing. All right, so it's just like, okay, I see. Sometimes you gotta just take that hit. And at the end of the day, you know, I feel like it's how you respond to it and like, what you gonna do after? Because, like, you know, of course, I definitely noticed that you took a step back, which I think, you know, clearly you needed a step back.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I took a step back, and then I came back and dropped a skit on them dumbass niggas went away.

[Ryan Reynolds]

He's like, yeah, like, remember why you love me. Exactly, exactly. And it's like, you. You can't allow them to, like, write your story for you. You know, of course it'll be a part of it. You know, we can reference it. It's a part of the lore, but it's not the whole story. Like, when I think of you and I think of your content, that's really not the first thing that pops up. Honestly, like you said, like, the Adam and Eve, all of your skits that you did, that part of it is like the main thing like you being a pillar of content creation and transitioning to all of these different apps still 14 years later, that's crazy. Like, not a lot of people have been able to sustain any type of career for that long. And specifically on social media, like, that's hard, especially. Cause all these apps are so different. Like, it's sometimes hard to make that transition. And I definitely have, you know, peeped you making a little bit of a cinematic transition with your podcast. I really love that. It kind of feels like a short film is. What are you doing next? Like, are you trying to really tap into film? For real? For real. Because it's giving director thank you.

[Jamila Bell]

That's cool.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, Yeah. I want to direct and I want to write. I'm more interested in writing, though, because. But it's like, with writing, the way I write is I reference it all the time. But like, Moon, Night, Moonlight. I've been playing a video game. It's a nigga in there named Moon Knight.

[Jamila Bell]

I thought you was talking about the movie. Yeah, I was going to be like, oh, I am.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I don't. But I'd be. I'd be it up. Because I'd be saying Moon now.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But the way their script is written is really descriptive. It talks about the. How it should feel.

[Jamila Bell]

Right.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You know, like, the movie doesn't have a lot. Like, it's not dialogue heavy, but it's. Damn. They're saying a lot without saying a lot. You know what I mean?

[Jamila Bell]

And so now that you say it.

[Demetrius Harmon]

When I write, I say a lot.

[Jamila Bell]

About that now that I'm thinking of it.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, but it that bitch heavy. You know what I mean? Like, you can feel it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, very well.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But I studied the script and I stayed like, random scripts. Like, everybody know Donald Glover is like one of my favorite creators.

[Jamila Bell]

Childish can be.

[Demetrius Harmon]

No, but I studied, like. Yeah, and so I like, study the Atlanta scripts a lot. I study, like, with Wall street script, just seeing like, different writing styles. But whenever I did start writing and formulating my own style, because I am a creator, I can see how I want it shot. I'm like, oh, yeah, we need like wide lens behind or like an inferior shot. So, like, when it comes to the writing, I end up directing it. And so like the podcast. Yeah, yeah. So the podcast was me, like, being able to see how I can do behind the camera. You know what I mean? Like, and directing those shots because, like, you know, nothing else really calls for that out of the stuff I do, like skits and stuff like that don't really Call it for super somatic shots, cinematic shots, unless I was going in a direction. But I do the best I can stay away from scares.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I feel that I'm really liking that direction you're going. And I could. I could see that. I'm like, oh, I see what he trying to do. Oh, you. You want to be on the big screen, don't you? I know that. I know that. I see that. But I think that's a good direction. I feel like a lot of times, people really underestimate the Skitters. You know, the people who do comedic skits, they downplay us a lot. They're like, you know, I mean, yeah, y'all funny, but could you. Could you really.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Skitters is a slur.

[Jamila Bell]

They gotta be Skitters.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It just kind of. It just.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Skitter's gotta. Skitter's gotta be a slut. Skitter's gotta be a slut.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sounds like a doodle streak in your panties.

[Jamila Bell]

A Skitter like that. Sound nasty. Shorted on yourself that way.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I don't want to be that anymore.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Now you just got a little skin now. You can watch that out. You can watch that out.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Get that little bit. I don't like that no more. I don't want to be a Skitter. Everybody take a shot.

[Jamila Bell]

Went on a tangent. Skitter.

[Ryan Reynolds]

But no, for real. Oh.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, oh, that's. Oh.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You was gonna take a shot for real. Go ahead.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It's wine.

[Jamila Bell]

Well, that don't.

[Ryan Reynolds]

A shot of wine.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Old ass sneaker.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Maybe I am up.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, yeah, just a tad. Just a tad.

[Jamila Bell]

Well, let Meech take his shot of wine.

[Demetrius Harmon]

So I'll be taking wine shots because, like, I take real shots, too. But the wine shot, if you drink the wine real fast, it's like liquor.

[Jamila Bell]

Especially that Taylor part.

[Ryan Reynolds]

The wine gets me there. And actually, that's what I'm about to start doing, because, you know, everybody bullies me for not taking real shots, so I'll take a shot of wine, though.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Don't let the generation corrupt you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay, Listen, I don't. That peer pressure don't get to me. I'm mixing up juice.

[Demetrius Harmon]

These young niggas was born with alcoholism.

[Jamila Bell]

Listen. Cause that red wine, bitch, that's coochie juice. That's gonna drunk and freaky. I just need a little dry.

[Ryan Reynolds]

No red wine. Might as well be tequila.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm a Pinot Noir type of guy, okay?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Pinot Noir.

[Demetrius Harmon]

So.

[Jamila Bell]

So with a little bit of good reason.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay?

[Jamila Bell]

That's what Pinot Noir makes me feel like a. That's how it's Mm.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But I started drinking red wine. Cause I was eating like, I was going like steakhouses and shit.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, you trying to be fancy and shit?

[Demetrius Harmon]

No, I just, you know, pinky up. Sometimes steak be too much. I'm like, what pair? Well with this nigga, they like, yeah, break down the enzymes.

[Jamila Bell]

Too much chewing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You over there swirling. You like your steak well done.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You chewing leather, not medium well.

[Jamila Bell]

Medium well, that's a problem.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Good medium.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But I'm just saying, like, I get like a rib, I get a cowboy rib. So like it be fatty. You know what I'm saying? If it's too much fatty, that shit kind of don't sit in your stomach with.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And so the red wine breaks it down so it can easily digest.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, I thought it was just good for the palate also.

[Jamila Bell]

It's good for the palate, though. It tastes good.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Interesting.

[Jamila Bell]

We're gonna take a break. And we're back.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's time to introduce you to our segment. Spin it. Go ahead, Mecca. Okay, what we spinning?

[Jamila Bell]

What are we spinning? I'm about to tell you. Wicka, wicka, wicka. Meech is gonna help us spin it this week. But Spin it is our segment where we take your messy, low down, salacious situations and we put a PR spin on them. Now, keep in mind, Jamila and I are not PR professionals. We just like studied in undergrad. But the advice might be unhinged and it might be immoral because PR is not have. Doesn't have to be ethical. Meech is going to help us this week. He, as you can tell, he's a very ethical fellow. So he might help us out. Jamila, what do we have? Oh, pause. And if you have any, if you have anything situations, you matter, if you have any situations that you want to send to us, be sure to email unhingedemoralpodmail.com. this is a damn mess. Please.com.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Link in bio. Link in bio.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Wait, people send they shit in. This is like a phone engine.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, well, these are emails. I don't stutter when I read. I will say that people definitely give us their business. Okay, So I don't know. I have not reread this or I have not read this one over first. So I don't know what it's about to talk about. But I did read bbl, so let's see.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm excited.

[Jamila Bell]

Hey, niggas from Detroit love ass. And don't forget, you guys, when you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Email, the nigga came out quickly.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yes.

[Jamila Bell]

Don't forget to email us y'all ages too. Jamila always says that, but I know she getting distracted.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. All right, here we go. Hey, Mecca and Jamila. I just want to start off by saying I love the podcast. I was never a podcast girly because I always got bored quickly, but this is it. All right, straight to the issue at hand. I am a 26 year old woman and I like my co worker. Ooh. So a little bit of background about me. I am a plus size girl and I wouldn't say I'm super big, but I'm also not the BBL plus size girly. Basically I just have a little bit more stomach and thighs than I would like. I'm also a late bloomer so I have never had a real relationship. I've talked to guys before and if you know, you know. But nothing serious. All right. Now here's some detail about him. My coworker is older than me, maybe five years. And he is conventionally attractive. Attractive and super fine to me. He's light skinned with a beard. Bitch, this you.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm self employed. Hell no. Fuck no. No.

[Jamila Bell]

Do this nigga be talking about chew matter.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay, let me focus. Light skin with a beard, a few tattoos and a nice fit body. Very handsome. I'm very interested in him mostly because he's obviously attracted, but he also is a great personality from what I've heard. Girl, do you know this man or not?

[Demetrius Harmon]

But anyway, I've heard it's crazy.

[Ryan Reynolds]

A few downsides about him is that he seems like a ladies man. He's always.

[Demetrius Harmon]

He got a kid for sure.

[Ryan Reynolds]

He always has a lot of women around his desk and it may be just because he's obviously attractive or just cause he's friendly. I never really investigate. Another downside is that he already has a child.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I know when a nigga got a kid, bro. I know when a nigga got a telepathy. Oh man. Hey. That's the second downside. Follow that. The bitches want him. That's the main problem. What are we talking about?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Woo. I don't have any children and said that I wasn't really wanting to date men with children since I have none. But I feel feel like I could bend the rules for him. I don't think him and his baby mama together, they never are. But I'm also not sure. We work in the same office, but we don't work closely together. We rarely talk because I'm very, very, very shy. We've had a few conversations, maybe three. They were pretty short. I have seriously Been contemplating trying to find out if he's at least attracted to me. Any advice that you can give me on if I should pursue him?

[Demetrius Harmon]

And how can I go first?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Please.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You gotta leave that shit alone. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. I got a straight. Like, don't nobody like step parents, but a stepmom. A stepmom. You gonna be a stepmom. How's she? 26. Yeah, girl, you got your whole life. You got your whole life ahead of you. And you a late bloomer. So you're really 22.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Talk to me.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You got time.

[Jamila Bell]

This is Exactly.

[Demetrius Harmon]

And a N30.

[Jamila Bell]

You see how he noticed? That's cause he's from Detroit.

[Demetrius Harmon]

No, I'm just. I'm just letting you know he just a. As a stepmom, it's like you not her. You have to keep your mom, like, for real. You know what I mean? Like, not being a dad is crazy, but you could you be the dad that stepped up. You're not gonna be the mom that stepped up. That kid has never been near yoru coochie. Y'all share no DNA. This is nuts. You know what I mean? But like, the thing is too, you don't know this nigga at all.

[Jamila Bell]

Clearly, you talk about.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, I mean, from what I heard about the nigga N Cool.

[Ryan Reynolds]

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Jamila Bell]

He just lusty.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I'm gonna keep it real with you, sister. Right, sister. You seen a fine man, said, I need that. And let me see.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That's why we need Tumblr back. She need to write a little fantasy.

[Jamila Bell]

A little. A little fantasy.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I fear, I fear. I hate to break it to you, sister. I hate to break it to you. I hate to break it to you. He's not attracted to you because otherwise you would have more interactions with him are easy. I tell you this every time. If a attracted to you, they will let it be known. He. He clearly didn't have around his desk. Why he never been around your desk. He's clearly a mingler. Why he never mingle with you if.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You ain't getting invited to the desk?

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's a reason, you know what I'm saying? Why you never walked up to the desk. You could have at least walked into the desk and seen what the vibes was like.

[Jamila Bell]

What y'all talking about?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Shake some titties or something, girl. Like, you gotta. You know what I'm saying? Because I understand it. I'm the type of bitch I don't really Shoot my shy with boys. I am a shy lady as well. But there are things that I do that I can kind of, you know, test the water. So if. If this was right and I was. And if I was, you know, if I was in the workplace and if I seen a fine as a co worker one day I'm coming titties up, right? Dress tight. You know something, I can walk in and switch hair flipping. I'm asking a question and I'm. You know what I'm saying? And if I feel like he ain't want it up, well, I'm backing off. And you just would never know. You know what I'm saying? And if you got. Sometimes you got to just kind of, you know, see if he's flirty, I'm saying to see if he wants to linger in the conversation, you know, stop at the water cooler sometimes you gotta.

[Jamila Bell]

Throw your titties on the desk. Lean, lean over, let him sometimes. Hey, what's up? What's up?

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know, and just see what happens. But you never did that. You just. You just lurking from the corner now. He probably think you creepy.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You sound creepy. This sounds stalkers. But all I'm saying is, though. What I'm saying is, though, and I say this as a man, that is the catch. Men are never the catch.

[Jamila Bell]

I can't agree with that in public.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Me, if you looked at me and my girlfriend next to each other. No, I'm. No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying if you looked at me and my girlfriend side by side, I won.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's how I was feeling.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I won. Talking about you see it. No one's looking at me like she won. So what I'm saying is if you're a late bloomer, bro, and you. And this is the thing you start, you know, I'm. I'm. I'm not plus size, but I'm not, you know, super big. If it's things you feel you need to work on and work on them. But if you love the way you look, love the way you look. And find a nigga that do too.

[Jamila Bell]

Cause a real nigga gonna eat that pussy, okay?

[Ryan Reynolds]

And the butt and the ass.

[Jamila Bell]

Now he gonna do this and you know, a. They gonna grab your gut and, and, and you know, so that don't mean nothing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

He'll grab that cankle and suck them toes.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But a big thing about being a late bloomer is like, not having. And you're too old to be getting fucked over like you in high school because they. That shit hurt. A little harder, you know, like we try.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Please don't fall. The first time you get over be by a fine. You will not recover for at least three years. You don't have time hard. You don't have time for that. You don't have time for that. Start you off something slow. Start you off with something like a six.

[Jamila Bell]

Getting your heart broken if you get fucked over you about that can really ruin your life. I'm not even.

[Demetrius Harmon]

No, you get your heart broken for the first time as an adult.

[Jamila Bell]

I had my heart broken like the last two semesters of college. I damn near off and then graduated. I said, yeah, you'll be down bad.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You still gotta go to work. You got responsibilities. You gotta feed yourself, pay bills.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Nah, at 26, Sister, I'm not gonna lie. You gotta get up under something real quick.

[Jamila Bell]

You gotta get on the apps.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You need to have some experience.

[Jamila Bell]

You need to go on the apps.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's time to start having some experience.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You can't just start fighting the champion. First you gotta work.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And Mr. You're not ready for that.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Team gonna do you injury some wins under your. Yeah, he gonna you over.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

If you never if you said got.

[Demetrius Harmon]

A club session in the office. You talking about what should I do.

[Ryan Reynolds]

My sister, you not ready for that. You. If you never dated a who be getting like that. You are gonna have a rough time. Since it is not for the week, I wouldn't suggest. Have you ever. Have you ever talked to a where be under the comments Thirsty.

[Jamila Bell]

Listen, I have ptsd.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You just gotta what you like that bitch?

[Jamila Bell]

You think she cute?

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, I got it. Yeah, I got it. It's cool.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, so now all of a sudden the nigga fine. That nigga ain't even all that. You gotta start talking him down. That nigga ain't even that cute. Why is y'all. You know bitches be really pressed for real.

[Jamila Bell]

This girl like you under your picture, she put hella heart eyes. She put 13 heart eyes. You know you know her.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, girl, you, you. I don't think you ready for that. So I think you need to calm down. I think you need to talk to Daryl from maintenance real quick and see what he does.

[Jamila Bell]

Maybe talk to a nigga, get your wings. Talk to a nigga that you're not lusting after and so attracted to so then that you will build your confidence like no Tino Shay. You don't want to go up to him because you think he's so fine and he got you like, go talk to a nigga. Who you like. Oh, he look all right, but he not. You know, I'm just like, so you can learn how to talk to a dude? Because I know Jamila says she don't shoot shots. I shoot shots. I pull up from the three I've made. Shots I should have never made. Found out about a girlfriend.

[Demetrius Harmon]

What's your signs?

[Jamila Bell]

I'm an Aries.

[Ryan Reynolds]

What you think?

[Demetrius Harmon]

I thought she was an Aries. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Guess mine.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Scorpio.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, sorry.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Taurus.

[Jamila Bell]

The other one.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You only got two.

[Jamila Bell]

Doesn't she have a little Kendrick Lamar energy?

[Demetrius Harmon]

Cancer. Stop. Oh, Gemini, you are, like, a little crazy.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I am the boogeyman.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But I don't be wanting to put Gemini on nobody. Because some people, like, if you're not a Gemini and you tell somebody a Gemini.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Nah, you could put that on me. Put that on me. Like, I just. I just relish in all of it. Like. Like, through and through. I am a gym. I was wondering, though, what's your sign? Do men. Yeah, what is your sign?

[Jamila Bell]

I get that tracks. Not even trying.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I got an Aries.

[Jamila Bell]

Wait, Demetrius.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That tracked.

[Jamila Bell]

Because Pisces men are so sensitive. Like, like, in the best way, but, like, they really be like, hey, can we talk about this? And as an Aries, hey, that can actually be irritating the fuck out of me. Like, no. Yeah, I don't wanna talk about it.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I got an Aries moon and a SAG rising. So whenever I be, like, talking about my emotions, it'd be like, nigga, Oh, I don't.

[Ryan Reynolds]

In the sag. That's why you're very talkative.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah. And a little bit of adhd.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't we all? Don't we all?

[Ryan Reynolds]

I feel like every creator, for the most part, got some type of tism. Adhd. We ain't. We ain't.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It's some schizophrenic.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's something.

[Jamila Bell]

You know what I'm saying?

[Ryan Reynolds]

It be. We got some stuff, and I don't.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Want to get us off topic because you was about to ask me a question. You better ask a question, because I was about.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I was about to get to who.

[Jamila Bell]

I think is damn schizophrenic. So. Yeah, get us back.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Get us back on stage. Please don't.

[Jamila Bell]

Please don't. I know the question I was gonna.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Ask is related to the spinning. I want to know the male perspective, because we're kind of giving you the. The girl perspective of, like, you got to be careful dating a who's too fine, because then you'll get wrapped up and it's like, ah. Do you feel like the same thing happens for like, do you feel like will talk to a girl who. They feel like it's very fine and they get like just. Or they just like. I don't know. Because in my mind, in my mind, niggas ain't shit regardless if the girl is cute or not. And they're kind of just like. They don't have like those type of like nerve feelings and butterflies.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I can't speak for all niggas, but I definitely like. Like I be nervous around my girlfriend, like when I gotta like not ask for something, but when I'm like getting flowers and shit and like she not coming home for like two hours, I just be at the crib. Like how she like these motherfuckers, you know what I mean? But like, there's definitely a lot of dudes that can't handle dating a woman that is attractive. Because just how you was like, like even if you. If you attracted dude, like the amount of women that would approach you, you gotta cut that in half. Because some women just don't approach you. Yeah, every is shooting a shot at your lady, you know what I mean? So you need to be securing yourself. But she was fine when you met her. You're not the only nigga that want her. But what, what niggas do is like one don't have trust in their partners. So then that's where they start.

[Jamila Bell]

Come on, Dr. Meech, give us relationships.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Down in the woman. And trying to. But niggas be insecure. So they start making her like think less of herself instead of like letting her know who she really is. You feel you supposed to hype her up and not hype her up because niggas is approaching her, but just hype her up so that like she go out into that world with confidence. Because the confidence that someone carries leads them into business meetings and the way they at work and the way they speak to people. But if they're not, if you take their confidence away, then they shell it's up. But it's cause you like the lion, how beautiful the lion is. But you want to put it in the game for you just to enjoy and see and view. You know what I mean? So a lot of people are like that, like where they date and they get the person and then it's like mine. And they hide the person from the world and they convince the world, they convince that person that the world is the problem, not them.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I've definitely experienced that for sure. And it's very traumatizing. Like I said, you don't want to experience that.

[Demetrius Harmon]

And I can imagine for y'all, it's like y'all funny, you know what I mean? Like, that's the biggest quality.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And let me tell you something, make.

[Demetrius Harmon]

People talk to you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Most men aren't no shade. I ain't. I ain't trying to be on saying no gender war type shit, but just in my experience as far as dating, like, obviously men are funny just in the world, right? I'm sure y'all the niggas get in the comments, whatever, but when it comes to dating, I could count two, maybe three that have made me genuinely laugh because it's like. But they always feel this sense of, like, competition. Like, nigga, I tell you right now, you ain't funny to me. Don't even try. Because now I'm feeling threatened and now I feel like I need to go on a fucking stand up tour. Like, don't you not finna outfund me? Just be you. Just be cute. Just be cute. You know what I'm saying?

[Demetrius Harmon]

Just be cute. Be J'MIRROR Yeah, don't nobody like their girlfriend being a fucking comedian, nigga. Not all the niggas laughing, you know what I mean?

[Jamila Bell]

But it's like, hey, I've experienced that. First she made you laugh.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You think you're the only nigga that got a sense of humor?

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's why them drawers was off.

[Jamila Bell]

That's why I can shoot my shot. I'm a laughing nigga out the draws, baby. But you know what I've experienced, like, as we get older, is that you learn, like, we shouldn't have to change ourselves. All the shits, right? But like, learning that detail that niggas do not want their girlfriend making all the niggas laugh. See, that was my problem. I used to pull up, not everybody. Now I'm in trouble. I'm getting you. I'm like, what the fuck I do now? I ain't even did nothing but be myself. I just go. I'm like, hey, y'all, where the girls at? Talk to the ladies. Then we be. I don't even try to talk to niggas.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm not doing it. A nigga gonna have to just be okay with me being the. Damn. You don't want to be around boys anyway.

[Jamila Bell]

It's like a middle ground because you gonna.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm just a clown. Sorry, I get it.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm just a clown.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And then don't let there be a.

[Jamila Bell]

Friend in the group that think he funny now. He trying to go funny for funny with you. And that ain't even your. And his sitting next to him and she like, oh, my God, what's going on?

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know what I'm saying?

[Jamila Bell]

It do get weird.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know, it can get weird really quick. It can get weird for sure. And then that's when you gotta randomly start texting your.

[Jamila Bell]

And then, you know, when they start feeling threatened, they don't be funny for real now. They want to start picking and roasting. Now. I wasn't roasting you. I could roast your. But now you want to start roasting.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Because you're getting out funny.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay, now if I say something crazy now I'm in trouble with mine.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It's a slippery.

[Jamila Bell]

It's a slippery slope. That's why just go sit your ass.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I told you that in confidence.

[Jamila Bell]

Now I'm talking about you cheating on your. And she said, oh, yeah. That's why I'm saying you just go take your ass over there with the ladies. I know. I just. I experience it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm traumatized. It's funny. Yeah.

[Demetrius Harmon]

See, for me, like, I just. I just talk to the group. Cause sometimes, like, niggas are weird. You know what I mean? Like, in a sense of you gotta think. You bring me around. I got painted nails. I got a little arm bag. I got a purse.

[Jamila Bell]

You know what I mean?

[Demetrius Harmon]

They not painted right now. But you didn't make an appointment.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You off your game, man.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Jamila Bell]

Clean.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I had to get him back healthy. Them was dj. That's what you bring me around. I go around the. And don't have.

[Jamila Bell]

Is he gonna catch it?

[Ryan Reynolds]

A manicure is well appreciated.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Approved.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Because I could go on with another tangent, but I'll let you finish.

[Jamila Bell]

Don't take the shot.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But what I'm saying is, you know, you bring me around niggas that. You know, like a lot of niggas say like high school. They stuck in like that high school where like all they could talk about is sports, beer, and. And I come around and I'm fucking talking about shit. We was just watching Love and Marriage Hunt of this. Tired of this, man. You know what I mean? A lot of aren't well traveled in topics, you know what I'm saying? So they don't. They. They can't interact with women besides their attraction to them. And they don't know how to interact with men besides testosterone.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, they don't have conversations.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, a lot of niggas don't have conversations. Like, I be sitting there all the time, like, when I'm talking to. Y'all ain't talking about shit. Mine was nigger babble. It grew in America.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We're gonna take a break.

[Jamila Bell]

And we're back.

[Demetrius Harmon]

What's the tangent?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Should I say it? It was really just. It was just. Okay. It was very unhinged. I just. I. Oh, yes.

[Jamila Bell]

Another shot of wine.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Mecca said something about manicured nails. Good at what you do. I was gonna say, Mecca, this is our. This is something that me and Mecca share. This is something that we talk about quarterly. The art of a good finger.

[Jamila Bell]

Please. It's just. It's an art. It's an art. And we need to get back.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's an art and it's a long form. Aren't cleaning their nails, so they don't know how to do it anymore. And they don't. They don't want, like, they don't want.

[Jamila Bell]

To be trying to shove three fingers in instantly.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Bitch.

[Jamila Bell]

Hold on, hold on.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Porn is ruining America.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Thank you.

[Jamila Bell]

Thank you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Let's dive into that. That's not real.

[Jamila Bell]

First of all, I'm not finna scream the whole time. I'm not. That's not even how I sound. Shut the fuck up.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[Jamila Bell]

I sound like a grown ass man. That's number one. When you get in here, you doing your business. I finish, I might start coughing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

This tape is 58 minutes long. That's not realistic.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, be serious. Y'all be wanting to go for 45 minutes. Honestly, on a nightly basis. If you're in a, you know, long term, committed situation, we could do a quickie. It don't have to be no cinematic masterpiece each and every time. Just get down there, do a couple. Do a couple dicks and. And do what you need to do. I just want to be tired.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That's the reps. That's the reps. That's the reps.

[Ryan Reynolds]

This is my daily reminder that Mecca is a dominatrix.

[Jamila Bell]

I was on Tumblr reading that bds.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Y'all remember the beginning of this segment when she said she was reading BDSM at 13. This was why you need dominating your kids.

[Jamila Bell]

Compute.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It has fried her brain. And now she's telling to get on their knees.

[Jamila Bell]

It's not my fault they do it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And she's screaming at them like, old men, get down there, nigga.

[Jamila Bell]

Mind you, Jamila's saying this because I said from time to time, you don't be telling nigga what to do. Like, n eat this pussy. Like, you don't be telling nigga what to do sometime. Like, what are we talking about?

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, you gotta be communicating.

[Jamila Bell]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay. I communicate. I communicate. Am I a dominatrix in the way that Mecca is? I'm just.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm just the mule.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay, tell me what to do.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That punch felt 3D. Oh, God.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's all. That's all. We're just. Just this different strokes.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But, yeah, we're losing it. We're losing the art of foreplay, like in America. But, like, we're getting more and more and more and more separated from, like, real life, like, spending, like, actual time.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know, we're so freaked out.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Niggas not going to the movies and, like, you know what I mean? Then going to dinner.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sexual tension has to build up.

[Jamila Bell]

You see the girl on TikTok talking about she was giving her. The girl who did her head hair. She was giving her head to do her weave. I said, we're too freaked out.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We're too freaked out. I mean, she's saving money, though.

[Jamila Bell]

We're freaked out.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm not licking coochie for no braids, but you know what I'm saying, Since I'm not mad, I'm not mad at it, because you know what I'm saying? You did save hundreds of dollars. She saved hundreds of dollars.

[Demetrius Harmon]

That's a barter system.

[Jamila Bell]

She said she's gonna be.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And that is a recession indicator. Bitches out here giving half a praise. We're in the recession, guys.

[Jamila Bell]

It's not coming.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Gotten so bad. Please put that on the docket. We need to start voting because clearly the bitches are so freaked out that they can't even pay for the sew ins.

[Jamila Bell]

Come on, head for her head.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Really bad.

[Jamila Bell]

That was good. That was a good pun to be said.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Head for head for head.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Jamila Bell]

He said, I want to get my pun in there just one time.

[Demetrius Harmon]

No, it's actually crazy. I think it's Twitter's fault, though. I would say that I would blame Twitter for everything.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I don't open Twitter in public.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah. Oh, my God. I don't open Twitter when I'm cuddling. I'm like, I don't even know. I don't even want this to be me. I don't want it to seem like this type of shit that I'm doing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So I opened up my Twitter evonsage show, which ironically was in a church, and I'm sitting next to my best friend Dwyiah. I mean, two scrolls in biggest dick I've ever seen inserting into Somebody, mind you, as I scroll, I simply look at him and say, click. Just collide it. I can't.

[Jamila Bell]

What was the inches on that thing?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, it had to be a 12.

[Jamila Bell]

God damn.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Solid 12. And I'm talking about the girth on that thing. It was really big. Where the girth are you sticking with girth and inches?

[Jamila Bell]

Not on me.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I said my ear. Just shoving, just.

[Jamila Bell]

And you know one thing about a size queen. They gonna be like, oh, I could take that big ass dick. Oh, my God.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Bitch. Open puss.

[Jamila Bell]

You have no walls. God damn.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Please, please relax. And it's scary because when you see porn, when you're not intending to see porn out in the wild, just out, just loose like that.

[Jamila Bell]

Just loose, loose porn.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Oh, I don't even got my headphones.

[Ryan Reynolds]

There's nothing you can do. There's nothing you can do when you see porn out in the wild.

[Jamila Bell]

But just like I don't want to see a dick.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Sometimes you have to bookmark it in line.

[Jamila Bell]

That later. Hold on. That big ass dick.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, let me just go.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm gonna save that for later.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, because it looked interesting. I'm have to see that through.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But no, because I want to report it. Because they should be able to get this.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I don't know.

[Jamila Bell]

They shouldn't be able to do this. That type of dick shouldn't even be allowed. I'm gonna report that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That. That man rotting our brains. I am a victim of the Internet rot. So that's just.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Oh, we all lie.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, well.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But I would like to blame men for most of it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, well, obviously, yes, you would be right. If correct, you'd be right. I do blame men.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Thank you. All the time.

[Jamila Bell]

The moment they figure out how to make a dildo war with a pulse, it's all before you niggas war.

[Demetrius Harmon]

What'S making me laugh. You said. You said warm.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Warm.

[Jamila Bell]

But I said warm.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Because the thing is, when you said. I thought you said wall. And I just looked at my wall and I just imagined if it transformed.

[Jamila Bell]

Into a dildo, just press the button, it pops out like Jesus.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Because I used to have a chalkboard wall and you could just paint it with the chalkboard paint and then it turned into a chalkboard.

[Jamila Bell]

Can you imagine if it turned into a dildo? I'm gonna create this wall around me and I'm just gonna carry my dildo everywhere with me.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You're gonna be on Shark Tank with.

[Jamila Bell]

That motherfucker and I'm gonna be a.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, it's like a push up pop Talk to anyone.

[Jamila Bell]

Where's my dildo? Build the wall, Donald Trump. Build the wall. Where are the dildos? Build the wall. Imagine America lining dildos up and pressing a button in a wall.

[Ryan Reynolds]

A wall.

[Jamila Bell]

A wall of dicks.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. That's actually kind of insane. Honestly, I say all the time, you can tell that sexuality is truly not a choice, because I would have chosen to be a lesbian. So many times I wish to, you know, when I go to sleep at night, I pray, please make me a lesbian. I hate that. I love penetration. I wake up and, my God, I love a man. I do. I do, unfortunately, like men. So here we are. Just have to.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, I've been getting it. I understand. Like, I got a few lesbian homies. I'd be like, yeah, I get like.

[Jamila Bell]

Like.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, I like women, too. You making sense.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Nah, I feel like. Makes sense. Yeah. I don't think I would like the studs, though. I think I would like a pretty lady. I think I would like a femme.

[Jamila Bell]

I like an androgynous. A stud.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Would you be a stud?

[Jamila Bell]

I was a stud in high school.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Ooh, that would be fun. I was gonna say Mecca kind of gives stud energy as you feel her dominance, you know?

[Demetrius Harmon]

Wait, where you from? You from? You from.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm from Sacramento, but I was born in the Bay, but I moved to state. I went through a stud phase.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Mecca would be like an old Kehlani stud. Like, when Kehlani first came out.

[Jamila Bell]

That's why I said that was the exact brand of Was in the water. Was. It's just like, you know what? I'm just gonna be a today, definitely. And them cargo shorts was heavy in style. Why not?

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, but it makes sense because I be telling. I'm like, if you gonna try some, do it when you're in high school, you know?

[Jamila Bell]

You know?

[Ryan Reynolds]

And I guess I just missed my mark. I didn't even try dick when I was in high school, so I for sure wasn't trying. No co.

[Jamila Bell]

I was just. I was just playing in the crow, sister. My father thought I was gay for years.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You lost it in ninth grade.

[Jamila Bell]

Damn.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Fast.

[Jamila Bell]

Fast.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Just fast and last.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah. Hey, I'm talking to niggas.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Niggas.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Like you ain't did it yet. I said, shit, nigga, I'm trying.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, my God, I'm trying. I feel like you can't even pee straight in ninth grade, Doctor.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I was a respectable whore. I waited to college.

[Jamila Bell]

Exactly. I was respectable. I waited until college. Respectable. And then I had to make up for lost time. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I was, I was just like. That's why I can identify with our spinach.

[Demetrius Harmon]

She's lame.

[Ryan Reynolds]

But it seemed like she's been talking to people, but she just has never had a relationship. But it still seems like she barely even be talking to. It seemed like she just be. Cause I'm like, girl, you don't even know how to.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, we all get to the close. If y'all tell her to put her titties on the table. She already did that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, well, it clearly he don't want you.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, I don't think she put her titties on the table for Mr. She.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Gotta go to that. She gotta go to that. She gotta go to that work Christmas party.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hello. With a mean slit.

[Demetrius Harmon]

What is that the grace that saw Christmas. I sure had a mayor wife was.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, yeah.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Santa baby.

[Jamila Bell]

Hell yeah, baby. And then if they have an open.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Bar bin with the jingle bells.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Huh. When they hit the wobble, you gotta really be.

[Demetrius Harmon]

She gotta catch him when he like on drink four, leaving the open bar. Yeah, you need a refill.

[Jamila Bell]

What you getting to drink, right?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Is that what you drink in the night, boo? Yeah. Not that I would do that, but that sound like a good.

[Jamila Bell]

At the open bar. Nigga. That's a good. That's some good game. What you finna drink? I'mma. I'll pay for it. It's open bar, you know, it's like. It's a joke.

[Ryan Reynolds]

All I could do is blink. All I could do is blink from afar.

[Jamila Bell]

Jamila, like Miley Cyrus. What's that one? Was it Miley Cyrus or Debbie? No, it's Miley when they're looking into the camera. No, Debbie, when she says that's Jamila eyeing across the club. That's Jamila as fuck. It'd be so funny every time. It'd be so funny.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Cause it's like you, but it'd be worse.

[Jamila Bell]

It's just knowing you're dead ass, but then also knowing you're very unserious. Like last time when you was like this, like. And you know, her eyes are already kind of big.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So it's just like there's a bitch.

[Jamila Bell]

Over here trying to make Google ass had a nigga.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I've actually never approached a girl in my entire life.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, girls only approach you, like with intention.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Oh, no, no, no. Like, just like with intention. Like I can. I'll be aware of like, oh yeah. Like I'm attracted to her, but it don't be like, what's up my name Twist your number.

[Ryan Reynolds]

See a Lot of guys are like that. That's why I be trying to tell me a lot of guys don't also approach. So it's like we'll just be staring at each other from across this.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Oh, I'm not gonna let you stare at me.

[Jamila Bell]

You gonna talk?

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, I talk, but, like. But I'm also. You know how niggas approach you, and it's like, if you ain't trying to fold and be denying, I don't give a fuck to talk to you at all.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah. Oh, you're one of them. I understand. I understand. I don't take rejection well either.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Playing it cool.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It's like, if it's necessary. Yeah. But, like, most of the time it ain't. Yeah, I ain't that pressed.

[Jamila Bell]

Wow. But with your girlfriend now, did she approach you first?

[Demetrius Harmon]

Either she actually gonna hate me for telling the story. We was at the bar, and it was a. It was a. It was a two mans. But like, yeah, I'm just going. Cause the homie was like, telling her and her friend, like, I can. I'll drink. Y'all. Right? But he called me up. Cause I'm. I'm alcoholic.

[Jamila Bell]

I mean, I seen the wine.

[Demetrius Harmon]

So really, I'm an out drink dim. Yeah, it was right here. I ain't even move. I'm gonna out drink dinner. But when I get there, I don't know who he's trying to talk to. You feel me? But I'm just like. I'm just here to support.

[Jamila Bell]

Right?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Right.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Keep the conversation flowing. Keeping it, you know, you wingman. Regular conversation, keeping the drinks going. But, yeah, I'm wingman. I find out I have been new about her. You feel me? I've been new. I followed her already. She, like, known in the city. I'm thinking he tried to talk to her. Cause if I was him, I'd be trying to talk to her.

[Ryan Reynolds]

T. Right?

[Demetrius Harmon]

We taking shots. And then they. The two separate. My homie and her friends separate. They go over there. I'm thinking we're going back to where we was at. Standing in our little corner, talking to each other, all four of us. She say to him, like, so you telling me if we was together, you would cheat on me? I'm like, oh, oh, so you free. Okay. So then I start taking shots with her.

[Jamila Bell]

She like.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So we start drinking.

[Demetrius Harmon]

We taking shots. She like, that's like another one. I'm like, let's do it. She's like, I like it. You ain't never run from a shot.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm like, shot what else you gonna run from? Okay, sis, I see what you did there.

[Ryan Reynolds]

She did that. And I thought she probably said in a little voice, yeah, he ain't scared of the pussy.

[Demetrius Harmon]

We said, the bar. He getting another. We getting another bottle. And we talking. And she's like, tell me, you mind. I'm a. Huh? And she's like, you heard me. Tell me.

[Jamila Bell]

I like her. She just like me.

[Demetrius Harmon]

For real.

[Jamila Bell]

You get drunk, start talking that. Yeah, you're my.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Actually.

[Jamila Bell]

All right, I like her. I like her.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah. I really got pulled.

[Jamila Bell]

I got game. Recognized game. She grabbed you by the throw to you.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Damn near. Damn near. I was drunk, so I can't remember if she did, but she might have.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, she had your knees.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm into that, though. I'm into that.

[Jamila Bell]

When I tell you, Jamila, you was acting like I'm capped. Yeah, get on the knees. I don't know.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I just said, I can't do it. I just said I'm scary. That's all I said. I just said, I'm just a shy little lady. That's all. I'm scared. I'm scared of rejection. I'm scared of everything. Everything's scared. Like, I don't know. I don't want to say that, because what if he look at me like I'm crazy?

[Jamila Bell]

I'm like the boy.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I already. Now we already established.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I could sense it. I could sense it. Once was like, oh, you ain't never run from a shot. I was like, okay, we doing something here.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

She said, I'll tell you what I never run from.

[Jamila Bell]

I tell you what I don't run from. You probably got that 12 inch thing on you, huh? I take call.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Son of.

[Jamila Bell]

Baby.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hey, baby. That's how y'all do it in Detroit.

[Jamila Bell]

I heard about Big Meech. What about Big Meech? All right, now.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Say, baby.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Y'All are so stupid. How do y'all. How do y'all. Go to y'all day like this?

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know, this. It's just kind of. This is normal conversation.

[Jamila Bell]

I was gonna say this.

[Ryan Reynolds]

This was so regular. It could have got so much.

[Jamila Bell]

The fact that we're doing a podcast, I believe.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But I feel like.

[Jamila Bell]

Because this is how the FaceTime. The FaceTime calls away. I mean, honestly.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah. Imaginable. Y'all just got mics and headphones now.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know what I'm saying? They said, stop giving mics.

[Jamila Bell]

And we said, I already ordered mine.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Not us. We're exempt. I don't know.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Don't be eating mic stuff about men.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. No. Yes.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Nick's not talking about bro. It actually made me mad because I'd be like, bro, what are we talking about?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Nothing.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You don't need this, but you don't need the episode every day. You don't. Are you okay?

[Jamila Bell]

Just cycling in the morning show.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Shut up.

[Jamila Bell]

Shit.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Just endless. Oh, please. Coon chatter. I can't. I can't. Enough.

[Jamila Bell]

Well, Meech, what's the name of your podcast?

[Demetrius Harmon]

So between you and me. I'm sorry.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Between you and me. Love it, love it, love it. So where can the people find you? As if they don't already find you and follow.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Are y'all gonna come on my cooking show?

[Jamila Bell]

We are, yes. We're absolutely gonna come.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I can't wait to go to Detroit.

[Demetrius Harmon]

What's your cuisines?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay, so I'm actually from Beaumont, Texas. It's about an hour from Houston, very much southeast on the go run during the bunny.

[Jamila Bell]

You know, I just.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I just wanted to know where you was from. Not the whole thing.

[Ryan Reynolds]

You know, some people don't know where that's at. So I just had to give them the geographical.

[Jamila Bell]

She from around. I just had to get the area from Beaumont.

[Demetrius Harmon]

What Village in Beautiful.

[Jamila Bell]

Touchdown.

[Ryan Reynolds]

People.

[Jamila Bell]

People pulled off.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Shout out to T, man.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Really?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, in my mind, because I love him down.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I think I also know Walmart, cousin.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, everybody does. Hello. He really put the city on. I'm his biggest fan. Truly. Truly. Like, I'm manifesting getting him on the podcast. Honest to God, I'm putting that out there now. I am truly his biggest fan. But anyways, yeah, so as far as cuisine, I really grew up eating a lot of, like, creole food, soul food food, nigger food.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Babble.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jamila Bell]

That's just what y'all be cooking in Detroit. Y'all know y'all just Southerners and furs.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, it's really, like. It just depend on who house you go to. Like, it could be like some slow cook shit. Like, at my dad house, we barbecue a lot.

[Jamila Bell]

What you be cooking on the show? So you be cooking for real, or so we really gonna have to come in there and cook? Or it's just. It's just for. Nevermind. Don't answer that. Cause you gonna tell the secrets of the show.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I was gonna cook for real. Cause I wasn't gonna say I'm moving all the time.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm saying, yeah, we cook for real. Ages depend. Ages depend on what niggas wanna eat. Cause, like, all right, it be depending. Like, the Amount, of course, of time it's gonna take to cook, but we cook for sure. And it's a taste test.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, I like that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Well, you know, I throw us down for real, so.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But I'd be letting the guest pick because I'm a picky eater, so it helped me expand my palate.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, I love that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

How about I make you some crawfish etouffee?

[Jamila Bell]

He don't like the way that sounded. Do you eat crawfish in a general sense? Do y'all have that in Detroit? And I don't mean that disrespectfully. Are you alert?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Hold the hell on. Hey, didn't y'all make catfish with Sway and Bubba?

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, they ate it, probably.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Did you eat it?

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, I tried it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Did you like it?

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm not allergic. No, that's straight.

[Jamila Bell]

It's straight.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Did we make catfish? We did make catfish. We had catfish nuggets. I wish I could have went out the nugget part, and we would have had a regular french fries, like catfish.

[Jamila Bell]

Fry with some hot sauce.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, I could have took that there.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But I grew up. My mom. My whole household I grew up in is allergic to. I've had to try, so I'm not against it. I just actually don't know what it.

[Jamila Bell]

Tastes like at all.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, have you ever had gumbo?

[Demetrius Harmon]

I have, but I don't. I don't know if it had crawfish in it.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay. Did you like the flavor of it?

[Demetrius Harmon]

That was cool. Yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Okay, so etou face a very similar flavor. It's just kind of more like a.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Hey, look, let me tell you something.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's good.

[Demetrius Harmon]

The thing I be trying to tell niggas is I don't really got a choice in what y'all cook.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, so if we come and say it too fit.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I gotta try it. Yeah, I gotta try it. You gotta try.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Y'all wanna cook, period.

[Demetrius Harmon]

But niggas don't even know how to cook, so they be like, I don't know, man. Like, you pick. I'm like, nigga, the point of this is for me to try new food and for you to cook it and me to be there at my cheese to get his way.

[Jamila Bell]

There's a dish called sour lamb testicle, and it's a delicacy if your guest can't.

[Demetrius Harmon]

No, we couldn't.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm telling you. Yeah, okay, well, all right. Well, no, we're making it. Nah, we ain't even gonna. We ain't gonna do that.

[Demetrius Harmon]

They didn't take the scroll them off right there. No, you just cut that.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm not really in. In the. In the business of eating other animal balls, so just.

[Jamila Bell]

I was just asking. Well, all right.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. What you gonna make, Mecca? We gotta do, like, I make something, and then you make something. We can make it a little.

[Jamila Bell]

A little thing. I mean, I can. I like Mexican food, but I wouldn't want to make that. I mean, I really like Mexico. I really like. I'm a chicken quesadilla head. Like, that's my go to. I'm.

[Demetrius Harmon]

We got good Mexican food in Detroit. In New York. We have good Mexican food in New York. Yeah, we have really good food. Actually.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Make sure you clock them restaurants, because we're going to want to go out while we're there as well. And I also have to go see Motown.

[Jamila Bell]

That's it. Oh, that's Indiana.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. I need to go see Hitfield.

[Demetrius Harmon]

No, they got the little museum downtown.

[Jamila Bell]

Oh, you trying to go to Michael's house?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Michael was all up and through that building in Gary. No, that's in Gary.

[Jamila Bell]

I was asking. It's like three hours away.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm not. There's. There's no.

[Demetrius Harmon]

It's Bard Barry Gordo house.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. There's no need for me to go to.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Yeah, I'm not going nowhere near Gary.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I don't need to see. I believe him.

[Demetrius Harmon]

You know, I got like 500 people.

[Jamila Bell]

You said I ain't going nowhere near Gary. Actually, I have not any friends from Gary. No. Yeah. She was like. I mean, the whole city's related to him, so it's like a very small place. Like, it's okay.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah. It's not a city that you really like, would frequent unless you, like, have family there. But. Nah. Detroit, I'm. I'm excited. I've never been to Detroit. I've never been to Michigan. I've never been a lot of places, honestly. Like, I'm. I'm a new traveler, so I'm really excited. We just got to figure out when we're free, but we're absolutely coming very soon.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Also, thank you for letting me guest on this.

[Jamila Bell]

No, we love this.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Thank you.

[Demetrius Harmon]

I'm happy to be the first guest.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yes. This was so fun. Well, thank you so much to Meech, everybody. Y'all say goodbye to him. We are going to let him go, but we're going to stick around to read Yalls comments and reviews and then give y'all our church announcements for what's to come next. Thank you guys so much. Say bye, Meech.

[Demetrius Harmon]

Bye, me.

[Jamila Bell]

We're gonna take a break.

[Ryan Reynolds]

And we're back.

[Jamila Bell]

Okay, you guys, don't forget to obviously, like, comment and subscribe wherever you are listening to Unhinged anymore. We're gonna go ahead and read some of the comments, some of the nice things that you've said to us on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube.

[Ryan Reynolds]

All right, we're gonna start with the Apple podcast comments. This is from MeggieJ901. Love y'all. Du z zown, Mecca and Jameel. Hilarious. I look forward to the yap sessions every week. I'm so proud of you two total strangers. And I hope everything you touch turns to gold. Also, I've been calling the pod, you and I before y'all said it, so it felt special and psychic. Keep doing y'all thing. Thank you so much. Yeah, I don't know why it just.

[Jamila Bell]

You and I get it. You and I clicked because we always.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Just call it un, unhinged, immoral. But yeah, merch coming soon, y'all.

[Jamila Bell]

Literally on the way.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We got another one. Classic Vicky. Absolutely love this podcast. I found out about y'alls from Columbia, South Carolina, podcast, like three weeks ago, and I made sure to listen to every episode. I stayed, trying not to laugh out loud at my job, but I love y'all on everything. TikTok, Patreon, and Apple podcasts, et cetera. As a pk, the church stuff hits and as a Selenio, I relate to everything. I use my George Foreman for my case ideas to this day. Love you guys and I wish you all the best in everything you do. Please come to Charlotte on your tour. Typically, I don't comment on anything, but y'all got me writing a book on here. Much love.

[Jamila Bell]

Aw, thank you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Shout out to you. Thank you so much.

[Jamila Bell]

I know you're raising me.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Shout out to George Foreman.

[Jamila Bell]

Ugh, George, I'm so glad. We was happy to give him his flowers before he got up out of here.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Child, thank you for the grill chat. Thank you for that grill.

[Jamila Bell]

I'm going to be reading Spotify. Awesome. Five said, please do not do that drinking challenge, y'all. That is a recipe for alcohol. Please, Miriam. Jeffrey said, it's deontay. Well, it wasn't. It was Meech girl. But maybe, maybe the next one. Angel said, baby, I'm about to black out at this rate. Chance, that is a bougie brown skin. Special guest. No, it's not Aubrey, but maybe he's the next one. And Howie said, hey, y'all, I'm a big fan. I'VE been in several live sessions with y'all hashtag Texas Nephew. But as someone with a brother who used me because it was beneficial, I completely understand the distance. Ooh, yeah, last week was heavy. I'm glad that this week was, like, lightweight and fun. Lauren Drug addictions are so hard on everyone involved. I think y'all are so right. Sometimes you have to protect your peace. Unfortunately, we are right.

[Ryan Reynolds]

All right, y'all, these are the YouTube comments oron09 said back to our regularly scheduled program. Y'all had me fucked up last weekend. Don't be talking. Don't be taking no unannounced breaks. Y'all messed up my Thursday. I'm so sorry, y'all.

[Jamila Bell]

That was our bad.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Y'all funny, but y'all, I love that y'all was, like, cussing us out. Cause, like, damn, y'all really fuck with us.

[Jamila Bell]

That's so funny.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Said ran back to the comics after finding out George Foreman passed on Twitter. Rip. Y'all really unlocked a core memory for me with that one. Ours was red and we used to make a grease catcher with a piece of foil. The unique experience of losing that grease.

[Jamila Bell]

Catcher is killing me. And I remember the red one. I didn't have it, but my. My cousins did.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, I remember the red one too. Janelle8073 said, I'm screaming at Mecca, talking about her mom making her lunches. Did y'all ever tell her you didn't like the lunches?

[Jamila Bell]

Yes, she did find out eventually. And it's a. It's a running joke to this day. If you follow my brother on TikTok, you will know that my mom is still doing bullshit to this day.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, wait, can I please tell this quick story about when I first came to visit y'all? So y'all see that Ms. Lindy is not a. Ms. Lindy is not a cooker, right? So I land, I landed in Sacramento and they're picking me up from the airport and I get in the back seat or whatever, we're heading to Mecca's house. Ms. Lindy looks back and was like, hey, Jamila, so I hear your parents cook.

[Jamila Bell]

And if you remember, I told you.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Guys the first, it was the funniest shit ever. She was like, so you guys cook, huh?

[Jamila Bell]

The first time I visited Jameela, like, this is night one. Her parents cooking full on meals every night. Now you have to. Once my parents got divorced, my dad is a professional chef by trade. My mother literally never did the cooking. And so when my parents got divorced, obviously went down the drain. Darren and I grew up eating, like, Subway Chinese food, Mexican food. Like, yeah.

[Ryan Reynolds]

She was like, well, we do. We do take out. Yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, we do a lot of takeout growing up. So I came back from Jameela's house like, oh, my God, they cook every night. They cook every night like it's Christmas.

[Ryan Reynolds]

It's so funny. That cracked me up. That cracks me up till this day.

[Jamila Bell]

Like, wow.

[Ryan Reynolds]

So you guys cook up.

[Jamila Bell]

Woo.

[Ryan Reynolds]

All right. Sorry, y'all. Big Krate creates, says not gonna lie. Watching people who are hot, garbage, and untalented are motivating as fuck. Like, if this person has all the audacity, what's stopping me?

[Jamila Bell]

Well, come on, somebody.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's a testimony. Testimony. What the hell was that?

[Jamila Bell]

We were the. The music competition.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Oh, I said that because I know this ain't about me. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jamila Bell]

Tight, tight.

[Ryan Reynolds]

At Sequoia, Sundrop says my parents live by the George Foreman. I had one when I moved to college. Exactly at above a 100. Says that's how my mama said I got big.

[Jamila Bell]

She can't cook, so we would have to eat again.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I'm crying at Alexa Toribio bio. The scream. I scrum when you said Jamila had y'all in Arlington. Lmafo. That's where the good food is, though. Well, we didn't even get any good food.

[Jamila Bell]

I was eating Dunkin'donut and Chipotle. Yeah, I heard Chipotle went bad.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Anyways, thank you guys so much for your lovely comments. We love to hear Yalls thoughts. We love to see y'all engaged with the content, make sure you guys are following our social media pages, and make sure you guys are sharing all of the videos, the clips that we put on our social media pages. Really trying to, you know, do better with that. I. I hope you guys noticed the timeliness. Last time. I. I really tried to be a little bit more on time.

[Jamila Bell]

I even posted a clip last week. It wasn't the ones.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, we're trying.

[Jamila Bell]

Yeah, we're.

[Ryan Reynolds]

We're on it, y'all.

[Jamila Bell]

So church announcement, really quickly. If you are not tapped in and sub subscribe to our Patreon, please do so. Jamila and I are doing an insecure rewatch. I've been on social screaming that Issa Rae. Issa. No, not Issa. I can't remember her last name in the show. Issa Rae. But Issa is such a bad friend, and I will not let y'all whack Molly. Issa D. Issa D is a horrible friend. And first of all, Molly and Issa were both bad friends, but Issa was extronomically worse. And you don't notice because she's the main character and you guys are blinded. And I plan on changing everything, everyone's mind. So, yeah, we dropped our first episode on Patreon. Please subscribe. It's in the link in our bio. It's $3 monthly, so tap in if you want to argue with me.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah, it's going to be super fun. Make sure y'all join the conversation. We'd love to engage with you guys. I'm trying to think if there's anything else that we need to necessarily announce. I don't think we. Oh, just, you know, merch is coming soon. We actually are solidifying what those designs will look like, but I can tell you they're coming way sooner than later.

[Jamila Bell]

We. Sooner than we thought.

[Ryan Reynolds]

That's about, as we say, sooner than we. Yeah, sooner than we thought. So please be on the lookout. Of course, if you are subscribed to the Patreon, you will get first dibs on all things merch. You'll see all the designs firsthand, all of the things. So make sure you guys are subscribed to that little $3 Patreon. You won't even. You won't even miss it. We gonna come quicker than Apple music and we're less than Apple music. Love you. See y'all later. Unhinged and Immoral is hosted by Jamila Bell and Mecca, produced by Melissa D.

[Jamila Bell]

Mont and Diamond Imprint, product post production by Coco Lawrence, production assistant by Melanie.

[Ryan Reynolds]

D. Watson, music by Adi and Brooklyn.

[Jamila Bell]

Billionaires, and graphics by Claudia Choi.