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What's up, y'?
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All?
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Welcome to another episode of Unhinged Immoral. I'm Jamila.
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And I'm Mecca. True. Today it's been, I feel like we're a couple. We're like a week into the new year and it's been dragging everyone. I saw your story, I saw Sabrina's story. I saw so many people this story this morning I was like, so, yeah.
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I actually prefer not to be that distant away from life and like, not normativity. Because it's so hard getting back on track that I'm losing my mind. I'm so tired. I wasn't this tired when I didn't have shit to do.
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What the.
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But that's because I was also just sleeping in. And now like Noah's back in school. I'm trying to get back to my, my normal routine. And I have not been to the gym after like taking him to school yet. Like, usually that's what I'll do. I'll go take him to school and I go straight to the gym.
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Bitch.
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I came home and went back to sleep. I can't. I'm like, bro, I'm so dead. But also it's because, like, I've been going to sleep mad late, which is kind of usual for me. Like, I am a like a late nighter type of vibe anyway. But going to sleep at like 3 and 4 is abnormal. I usually go to sleep around like 1, 2.
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So I feel like everyone's doing the same thing right now. Because I too usually hit the bed, hit the hay around 11 to maybe 12. I've been trying, like last night I tried to lay down because I knew we had to record this. I had to send Taylor some things. Taylor's is our manager and I just had stuff to do today. Like I have stuff to do. I didn't actually fall asleep. I looked at my clock until like three, almost four o', clock, mind you. I laid down, I tried to like shut my body down and it just wasn't happening.
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It doesn't work. And what's crazy is like I'll be tired in the middle of the day and I'll. Strategically, I've been trying not to take as many naps because usually I'm also a nap girl. But because I know I've been staying late, I've been trying not to take a nap so that I can like say that, but nothing is working. Like I just still am tired. But I think it's just more so like I just need to like do it and just get into the routine. So no matter what happens tomorrow, I'm going to the gym after I take notice school. I'm gonna try to still do a workout, but I'm gonna do a workout from home today because I am actually doing a 75 soft challenge. Soft. That hard. Y' all got me crazy.
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Everyone's doing stuff at the top of the year. I'm doing a fast. The Daniel Fast police was after me.
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I saw that. So the Daniel Fast. All I know is they be eating Ezekiel bread. That's facts, which I. I just started. So the reason I even know about Ezekiel bread is because my best friend Sydney is. She's. She. When I. When I need questions about health, wellness, working out, I ask that bitch. She knows all of the things. And so I was like, sydney, you know, I want to eat avocado toast. You know, I want to. I want to be a little bit more healthier, but I also don't want to. Like, I'm not. No shade to the girls who are. I'm not gonna do all that. You know, I'm not gonna get the scale. I'm not gonna count no calories. You know what I'm saying? I'm real, you know, whatever. And she was like, oh, you can do Ezekiel bread. Come to find out, that is sold in the Frigidaire. Did not know that was refrigerated bread, because if you keep that out, it will spoil overnight. That's real bread. That bread is from the. From the ancient times. It got all type of seeds and beads.
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Seeds and beads is crazy.
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That bread will rot so fast if you don't keep it in the fridge. I was like, oh, I'm not even.
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A super duper bread person. But the part that had confused me about it, so I. They made me have to go, because it's my first fast. I've never fasted before. They made me have to go look up the difference between, like, a corporate and, like, a intimate fast. I go to a megachurch where corporate fast. A corporate fast is more like. Like what? Like, you do with your church and your community. Like, we're all.
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Okay. We're all doing it together.
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Like, this isn't a secret. Like, it's. It's not the. The church is a mega church. They released a whole cookbook. The restaurants in Houston have Daniel Fast Friendly on the door. Like, they've all been. It's not a secret. So sharing, like, recipes is not.
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And it's just.
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It's just like, who's gonna say?
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It could be a Secret that y' all don't keep a secret. Denouncing. I don't want to see. Not near 2026.
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Please, please. It's a lot. I. I also don't like them. It's just like, girl, I don't give.
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A that you don't want to be no goddamn AKA no more. Bitch. I don't care. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. You know what? And I just have to go on a mini rant about this because I just, you know, I get. I get aggravated so fucking quickly. Here's my thing about the denouncers. And as someone who is a part of a Greek organization, I can and will say this loud and clear. Of all the bullshit that occurs in Greekdom. The thing that made you denounce is not being the best Christian you could possibly be. You co.
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Listen, we don't have none of them issues over here in Mech 5 Valley, so.
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Fucking losers, bro.
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Like, come join my organization.
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Like. Like, y' all are some busters. Like, ask someone. Like I said, y' all already know. I am in a Greek organization, and I hold them bitches and niggas accountable for any goddamn thing. I don't get. I never care. You better ask about me. I feel this joke. If you can't have that separation, you're weird. And you are the problem. It's you. It's you, it's you. It's all because, mind you, it's like they always say the same things in their denouncing videos about how, oh, it says we're not supposed to have false prophets. Then don't. Who was forcing you to. Who the told you to praise Ethel? Nobody said. Nobody said that. Nobody said that. Why are you doing that?
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Ethel looking down from heaven like she.
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Looking at you like you doing too much, huh? All I said was do community service and be a good friend to your sister.
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And I ain't never said I didn't let them heifers bury us, okay? That's all I did. I didn't tell you to pray to me.
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Nobody said that. So y' all are. Y' all are crazy. But anyways, you know what? Also, I want to bring back something this year. Let's bring back more gossiping. You know why I say that?
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Good fun gossip, though.
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I feel like gossiping will save a lot of you. You from looking like idiots in public. Y' all take things to the Internet that are supposed to be good girl gossip chat. Why are you getting on the Internet, giving your good girl gossip to the Internet. So now you just look like a.
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Yeah, you can be a in your.
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Group chat, because guess what? Nobody will know. Let's bring back secrets, guys. Let's bring back group chats. Let's bring back gossip. And I hate this notion that gossip is bad. Like, there's anyone who, you know, really tries, anybody who overly judges people for gossiping. I believe that you are a bad person. Secretly, I don't believe you. You're not good. You're not good. There's something in there that you do. Yeah, there's something.
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And it's worse than gossiping.
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It's fornication. I don't know. And gossiping ain't nothing but spreading the good word. We are. We are simply or raiders of history.
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I mean, that's all history is just.
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That's all it is, good gossip. Now, what makes gossiping bad is when y' all add a little sauce to it now that now you ain't spreading information. Ain't nobody saying that.
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Accurate information.
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There's ethical gossiping.
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New Year's hot water, voices scratched, talking about how y' all need to get back to gossip.
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Come on, now.
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Sounding like.
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No, I. I love when I always say this. I love when my voice is deep. You know what I mean? Everybody say, hey, Ms. God. I've always wished to have a deep voice. And unfortunately. But you know what's funny? My voice got deeper throughout the years, and I posted a. I don't know if you've seen the video I posted from when I was in college. Everybody was like, what the fuck you're about?
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I don't remember. No, I Like, that was, I think around the time we met. I was like, I don't remember your voice sounding like that.
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Yeah, so the thing is, it's two. Two reasons why. And I said this in a video. There's two reasons why my voice changed. Number one, just age. Like, when you age, your voice changes. But I had my tonsils removed, so it literally dropped my voice down an octave.
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Yes.
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And I love it.
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That is true. Because when people like Tick Tock be making shit go viral from two, three years ago and my voice sounds slightly different and I don't like it. I'm like. It sounds so high pitch. I feel like now. Now I sound wrong. Like, that's a lady on the phone.
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Yes. I want to sound like. Just buttery, like.
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Oh, like Beyonce.
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Like Beyonce. Like Toni Braxton. You know what I mean? Like Anita Baker.
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Well, not Anita Baker. She's an asshole.
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Oh, well, she is mean gossip.
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That's a fact.
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I Mean. But guess what? The voice is. Is so true. I love women with deep voices. I think it's so freaking sexy. Like, ugh. And so whenever. If I'm talking, like, if I'm trying to sound sexy, that's what I do. I put a little bass in your voice.
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You do?
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You put.
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You put some bass in your voice when you talk to the boys.
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Yes. And so it's just more like, I.
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Think I do, too naturally. I'm trying to think. I do. I like to drop it.
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So what you do. I'm. I'm giving you Alicia Keys. Boots.
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Yeah.
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Yo, this is the lady from the waitress.
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Hello.
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You know, the one with the braids.
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Thirsty. That's how she ended up stealing that husband. That's another fact. It's another fact. It's a good gossip. Everything's good now, though. You know, they a good blended family.
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That's a good, happy blended family, and I love that.
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And I'm saying, them kids that Swizz and Alicia had musical geniuses.
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Like, I mean, I expected nothing less, to be honest.
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Maybe sometime you shouldn't let somebody. Wife. Keep you from your soulmate. Because them children are musical prodigies. We would have never got them.
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Dang. You know, I mean, to be fair, I think anybody that Alicia would have had babies with, them babies would have been playing them goddamn keys. Cause she's so like, oh.
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But he's also incredibly talented. I feel like he is the combination. Combination of them.
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Like, them specifically Alicia, she's different.
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Yeah. But I'll say, you know what? That's the one time I said, hey, take her husband, because I really want to see where her kids are going to go. Because obviously, like, they're not always in our face. But you know how she posts them, like, once a year, and they're always doing something. Like, you see what I'm saying? I'm like, yo, what are these little niggas going to do? I'm. I'm tapped in with Egypt and them.
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Yeah, for real. I love it. I love when the kids take after parents. Like, I don't know. I always see. That's so cute. Like, no matter what they do, like, you know, I've seen this story. Was like, this black pilot. His daughter became a pilot, too.
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Like, oh, I saw that.
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Like, how cute.
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Like, and that's why I don't think them really. Michael's kids.
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Why do we always got to go there? First of all, Paris does music, okay? Prince is in entertainment. I don't know what Blink is doing. I Think Blink is still. You know, he's just now kind of getting into the whole, like, he's a baby.
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Like, not he's a baby, but he's like. He's like Jelani age, maybe a little younger. I don't consider Blanket a full adult yet. I'll be real.
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Yeah, no, he's.
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He's.
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He's. He's definitely a baby adult.
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Yeah.
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But the first two, they're entertainment, for sure. I'm pretty sure Prince is into film. But, you know, Paris is on her recovery journey. You know, my sister.
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I do know she was on. That hair on.
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She said that she was on. She was on a couple of things. She was on coke, too. She got a deviated septum from it. She was on it bad. Listen, if my daddy was. Michael Jackson died like that.
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I mean, that is very traumatic.
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I, too, allegedly yoked her up and.
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Slapped the out of her when they were holding Catherine hostage. They had a lot of stuff going on.
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Listen.
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But that was very indicative of, like, our dad died tragically, and we're all spiraling out like it was. Yeah. I won't say it's normal, but, like, you hear about kids.
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Yeah, nice. I didn't blink twice. I'm like, yeah, that's right.
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It's just on track.
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Yeah.
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Unfortunately.
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But I will say Prince seems like he's adjusting very well. Like, I've seen a couple of it. I'm. Y' all know I'm so into the Jackson family. I've just been kind of seeing him on the press runs and just talking to fans, and he just seems like he's. He's good. And I'm like, my baby, y'.
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All. All right?
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Ah, I just want to hold him. Y' all don't even know what your daddy did for me, but he seems like he's doing really good, and that just. That made me happy.
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He does seem very well. Like, he definitely gives older brother. I was watching when they first dropped the. You know, I'm talking about the trailer. They had done something. And the way he had his hands in his pocket and he was just leaning into the camera. I was like, oh, he runs.
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I'm like, oh, I love this.
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It's Michael Jackson, the first runship.
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I just love it. And I'm glad my good sis Paris is clean. Baby, please.
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I wish for everyone to be clean. Listen, especially not. Well, if you have. If you're addicted, if you can do your shit casually and just for a good time, not a long time, whatever. But if you.
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Got to Stop doing that hair wrong. Regardless, I don't care if you addicted or not, baby, you got to get off that hair.
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I was not talking about the hair wrong. We were actually talking about the bumps. The more.
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The more Rex, the more you know. Huh?
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I used to work at Nordstrom. I. I know a whole bunch of functioning cokeheads.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like, I was just like, oh, this don't seem like it's a problem. Y' all got it.
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Speaking of, Bruno Mars has a new album coming out.
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That's my favorite coat.
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I swear to God. Let me tell you something. And I seen somebody on Twitter, I.
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I give it all to him.
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Listen.
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Give it all.
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Somebody on Twitter had the audacity to try and say that Bruno Mars puts out the same song every. Every time. I said, oh, you don't listen? This is where you have to lose me. That is the definition of just doing whatever the comes to mind. Like.
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Like that's an art. Please. You know what's crazy? I actually was just talking. Maybe it was you, or maybe it was when I was in Atlanta. No, maybe it was Cam. Like, I didn't. Oh, yes, it was Cam. Because we were talking about Beyonce and Lady Gaga, and I was like, it wasn't Till whatever. Lady Gaga just dropped recently. I wouldn't call. I wouldn't consider myself a Lady Gaga Stan, But I would say, what is it? Right? Maybe a level or two under a stand where it's like, every time they do something, you definitely tap into it and give them.
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You're just like, I feel the same way about Lady Gaga. Like, I wouldn't consider myself a Stan. And that's nothing personal. Just, you know, you cling on to.
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Who I feel like I really identify with you as.
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But I'm definitely a fan of Lady Gaga, and I appreciate her art so much. Like, she's really good and talented, and I just appreciate. You know, I just want her to get her things, and I can tell that she enjoys her. Anybody who does art, and I know that they love that shit. I'm just like, yes, you. Fuck with you. Yeah, you do that, girl.
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I feel like Gaga is one of the people who is like, if I had the opportunity, like, I'm not waiting in line to get a Gaga ticket, but if it falls, like, if I can go on there and just get a ticket, I'll get a ticket. Same with Bruno Mars. Yeah. And actually, at one point in time, I would. I would have. What was that last album? Versace on the floor. Then whatever album that was on I said, I need to see this nigga.
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Let me tell you something. I'm going to this next tour. I've never seen him in concert, and I've only seen, like, clips, but he seems like such a good performer, and the things that I've seen look so good. And on top of that, I will say, like, I have to give Bruno his things. This. His record is insane. Everything that this has done has gone platinum or gold. He is gold. He don't even have that much music out. That's what he deserve. He don't even have that much music out, y'.
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All.
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It's just that every fucking thing that nigga drops is so insanely good. Like, he's that nigga. And some. Another point that we consistently make on here. You want to know why Bruno Mars is so good? Because he's a student of his craft. He studies the greats. And you want to know another. Another thing? You know what? I just have all of these things, so.
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Lady Gaga. Look at her. She's also another. Another student.
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My thesis statement for this year, okay, we must. We must, as a community, bring back funk, and we must bring up our legends in funk, because that when you are a student of funk, it tastes different.
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It does.
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And, you know.
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Okay, so to your point, one of the offshoots of funk is New Jack Swing. I just saw the song that Cardi B and Bruno did. Someone had quoted it. It had went. It just. It reached another level. Huh? You know?
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Yeah, Finesse.
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Finesse. Oh, it's called.
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Yes.
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I didn't. I couldn't think of the song's name.
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Because I don't know what. But, yeah, go ahead.
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Someone said, I'm so shocked that this song didn't revitalize New Jack Swing. And I was. I went back and listened to it. I said, oh, this is absolutely a New Jack swing song. And when.
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Yeah, the way those drums.
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Yeah, I didn't. I didn't put it together when it came out, but I was like, I love new Jack swing. Like, that's one of my favorite genres of music.
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I would live shout out to that boy Teddy Riley goaded.
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Teddy. Teddy.
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New Jack swing is so. I would love it when. When Teddi worked with Michael.
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You say that like you were there.
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I was. The earth shifted, you know, I was like Janelle Monet.
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So in my dream, when I had.
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Traveled, y' all know I. Y' all know I'm tethered to Mike. Come on now. But now that Teddy Teddi is so insanely goaded for that Shit, I do think that, like, this year we're going to. Y' all do know this is the year of Beyonce, right? Y' all do know Act 3's coming this year, right?
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It's every two years.
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Buckle the up, man. Buckle the up. One thing I know, Giselle is on her way. And if and when Act 3 drops as a rock album, I'm telling you now, I'm going to be insufferable. More insufferable than I've ever been, which is hard to do, but I will find a way.
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The thing is, if it drops, if it's a rock album, I'm going straight. 2008, Mecca, emo side bank. Like, because we've been here before. Like, we've been here before. You think I'm not gonna pull out all the Tina Turner looks mood boards? You think I'm not going straight into the. An appreciation that I have deep appreciation for. And appreciation I have deep appreciation for, anyway. The hair bands, the white boy hair bands of the 1980s. Fashion wise. When we went to the. What am I trying to say? We went up to the Hardware hall of Fame. I was gonna say the Heart Rock Cafe.
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That baby drunk. She over here having strokes. Casually, mind you.
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Man.
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Like, what? Hello.
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When we went to the Hard Rock Cafe.
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Mind you, you keep saying Hard Rock Cafe. When we went to the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.
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Rock and Roll hall of Fame. And their exhibit right now is Bon Jovi. And they had this beautiful shit, like, their outfits over the years because, you know, like, they've never really stopped touring. And I was like, these. These crackers had drip.
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Let me tell you something.
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It was drip.
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So y' all may not know this about me, or maybe y' all have. So my dad plays guitar, right? Mm. My dad's been playing a guitar since that Nigga was, like, 5, 10 years old. I don't fucking know for fucking ever. He's. He's been in several bands. That nigga is a rock head. A real Rockhead, baby. We grew up listening to Real deal. I'm talking about 80s rock and roll. Like, Real Deal, right? So that there's actually, like, a genre that I am so fucking like, oh, my God. And it's one of those things where it's, like, it's not super tapped into outside of the genre, if that makes sense. Like, unless you are actually within, like, the rock genre, a lot of people kind of don't really know what goes on on that side of the globe. But it's. It's such a It's such a fun genre because you can do so many things like. And. And I haven't seen a lot of people in the more recent years. I definitely seen it previously. But in the more recent years, tapping in to that rock spirit. And you want to know why? Because the babies have gotten away from your instruments.
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Someone said this. Why aren't the white boys doing garage bands anymore?
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Because they can't play instruments.
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They can't play instruments. They took it out of schools. You can't.
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You can't have a garage band if nobody has a garage.
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Like, that's the one thing about. We're all in a park school. Or. You know how, like, now I'm noticing the kids who play in band have been playing because their parents put them in private lessons before they even got to high school. Whereas when at least I was in middle school, motherfuckers did learn how to start playing the instrument while they were in school. Like, that's not necessarily the route anymore. Your parent has to start you. Start you on the instrument, which I think is a real crime against the children because you don't know how that talent will manifest. I actually know someone who is an excellent drum player. And he didn't learn drums until we got to middle school. And he just. They put. They sorted him into band as his elective. And so they were just like, pick one. He picked it. And he played all through high school. Got a germ scholarship. Just like, think about that. Just because someone taught you how to do something when you were in school. If. If he had went to school now, it might not have went like that. So, yeah, that's unfortunate.
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I want to see.
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You need to get back to the instruments.
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Learning instruments and becoming more efficient. Unlike myself, I'm a very casual piano player. That's something I've always wanted to do.
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Pick up and get serious about is.
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Just be better at it and keep practicing. I just don't have as much time to practice as I used. I used to play way more, of course, like when I was in high school, in college, when I just had time. But I ain't got no time as much. Yeah, it is. It's skill. Get back into it.
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Guys, can I do a Hear me out? Jamil and I talked about doing a Hear me out last week, but my power went out, so that was on me. But I have been watching the Kardashians and I have a Hear me out for Travis Barker.
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Oh, that's not even a Hear me out.
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I listen. It's a Hear me out for me. I. I didn't see it before, but I do see the appeal now. Yeah, that seems controlling, but, like, esthetic wise, like, I like. Like, I like tattoos. I don't know if that's. I've never told y' all that, but I do like tattoos. I have been known to be outside with a man with tattoos up his neck. So, like, the whole tattoo thing, I was like, I'm actually kind of into it. And then when they were in one of the episodes, his hometown, which is like a place in California, gave him the key of the city. And he went back and played drums with his, like, high school band. And I was like, this is doing something for me.
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You put an instrument in a hand and it. It does give them a paintbrush of fineness. Like, it's. Something happens. I'll be like. It was.
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And it literally was me watching him play the drums that I said, what's that I feel in my pants?
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Listen, every time d' Angelo would pick up that. That guitar or get on that piano, I'd be.
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I be forgetting. He gone. Like, I. Him and.
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And Malcolm Jamal Warner.
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I completely forgot he died. Damn.
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He sure did, didn't he?
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I said, what? Sometimes, you know who I really forgot? Like, yo, not that we need an update, but if. If it's someone who was just simply alive in my head, I. I forgot Tito died.
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Oh, girl, you know, I ain't forget.
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I completely forgot.
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Tito gone to glory. Tito just gone, man.
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Shout out to Tito. If he hadn't been playing his daddy damn guitar child, we wouldn't be here.
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I wouldn't be here today. Well, maybe you would be here, but I don't know. The stars were alive. Nope, I don't think I would be here. I don't know. There's. There's a connection. There's a connection to all things.
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I'm telling you.
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I'm telling you. I know this.
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Well, that makes sense, Jamila, you talking about who are musically and, like, creatively inclined. Because my other. Hear me out is Gregory Hines, which is a well known fact, who was a. A dancer extraordinaire. Great dancer, very fine man. I would have got it. The crazy part is I always think about the fact that when I discovered him, after I watched Waiting to Exhale for the first time when I was eight years old, it was like, literally, I think less than a year after he died, like maybe nine or 10 months, I was devastated. Like, I was like, oh, my God, my end. So I got on that family desktop, went to Wikipedia Searched all his pictures, seen him in the Cotton Club. Watched all this from the YouTube just to find out he had died. I was throwing up. I was so sad. I said, he'll never be my man.
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Yeah, that's. That's a reason. That's the reason why he'll never be my man. Guys, I think it's 50 years older than you.
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Like, maybe more, probably. Well, no, maybe 50. Maybe more. Maybe more.
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I don't know. My hear me out, which has been my hear me out since I was a little girl, is Smokey Robinson. Nigga, that nigga's 70 years older than you.
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Shut up. Do you see how she just tried to sit here and play with me about liking an old nigga and then gonna say Smokey Robinson with a straight face?
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And I say it again.
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Gang banging. You want to gang banging Smokey Robinson.
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Okay, so here, let me. You gave your lore on why you fell in love with Greg. Okay? Now let me tell you. Let me tell you how I fell in love with Smoke. So y' all already know one of my favorite movies of all time is the Temptations. So I fell in love with Smokey Robinson. The who played him first. I was like, whoever that is, I want him, right? So I was like, in love with him. And if you know, you know at the end of the Temptations, the real Smokey Robinson is singing that song. This is again what me up about reality. Because again, I'm like, okay, well, that's the real Smokey. Then all these is the real Temptations. That my head up. I was not prepared for that. So when he goes, really gonna miss you. I said, oh, I love him. And I've always loved Smokey. But also, like, again, I love talent. Smokey is one of the greatest songwriters.
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Because you watched Temptations as a little girl and looked at old ass Smokey Robinson and said, my love.
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Yes, but I think Smokey's very handsome.
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And Greg is. Was a way. Yes, but I think that I love. I feel like if you look me into the eye with the big thyroid eyes, like, that's gonna turn me on. That's what I like about him.
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I'm glad you said that's what you like about him, because that's what I was gonna say. Throws me the off. But really, I will respect the dead.
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That's so crazy. That's someone. Someone on Tick Tock said after I said this, they was like, oh, you liking Ethiopians makes hella sense. Oh, that's. That's a drag. But that's also like Point A to point B. I do be liking the big eyes. I just feel like I like big eyes too. Yeah, but in context.
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Contextual big eyes. You know what I mean?
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Like, I don't know. I like it a lot. It makes me feel like you're serious. Okay. Like, yeah, we're just having a conversation and just stare at me.
A
I'll miss you, my buddy.
B
That's when he had them little dreads.
A
Miss you, my friend. I promise my love for you will never end. I'm about to cry again.
B
What's happening? She's gonna keep going, Slave.
A
Oh my God, no. I'm getting teary eyed.
B
Stop, Jamila, please stop. Like, literally.
A
Another Hear me out. Was Chameleonaire. I don't.
B
That segue is insane.
A
I actually don't have a.
B
What song did come sing? What was his song?
A
They see me rolling. They hating controlling Adrenas and me riding dirty me right? And dirty. The thing with that is I don't.
B
Remember him being attractive, but. Okay, so what did you like about him? Explain him.
A
Okay, so here's the thing. I was living in Houston at the time that song was released. And that was the song of the fucking summer.
B
I can see that.
A
And I didn't really have rhyme or reason. The thing is, I am dangerously straight. I need people to understand I'm dangerously straight. So as a young girl, I would have a crush on any nigga for any reason. There did nothing made sense to me. I just wanted it because I just was so enamored by boys. And so because I liked the song, I just decided to like that nigga too. It was just that simple for me. Yes. Now it's like, okay, well, you know, maybe not. But there's always. There's always a soft spot for me because you. You know what I'm saying? The little girl still lives within me. She's still there.
B
I think of a rapper that I always will because I feel like I.
A
Like Mike Jones too. You feel me?
B
I don't even know what Mike Jones look like. I swear.
A
It's not. It's. You know, if I look Mike Jones.
B
Up and scream, Jamila. But this is. Hear me out. Hold on. Mike Jones who? Mike Jones. Jones. What was his phone number?
A
2813-308-8004. Hit my Jones about the load. Cause Mike Jones about to flow. Before I got that major deal, before that ice was in my grip. This girl didn't give a damn if I was here.
B
Just did so much. He's not ugly. Why is his do Rag, like, over his eyebrows.
A
That's just the vibe, shorty.
B
I don't know what his whole face looks like, because his is.
A
Oh, I ain't seen Mike Jones in years, though. He has such a run. Where that at? Yo, Mike Jones, where you at?
B
Like, I can't. I can't discern what his face looks like.
A
Does anybody have tangles?
B
Are.
A
Does anybody have information about Mike.
B
Is that not Mike Jones?
A
No, that's him. It's just. Oh, does anybody have any information on Mike Jones?
B
Have you seen Mike Jones? Who? Mike Jones.
A
That nigga had a run. Oh, my God, that 44. Now, looking at his Wikipedia, that's not even that old. He was born the same year as Beyonce.
B
That's how you know these niggas was outside from day one. Because it's like so many of them are only in there, like, four 40s to 45, and they've done so much. It's like, dang, they really did start as teenagers.
A
Damn, this has some hits, bro. But yeah, like, I. I don't know. It didn't make sense to me. It does not. Another person I had a huge crush on, he's gay now, but that means nothing to me. He's still fine. His name is DeAndre.
B
In real life, or he's a celebrity.
A
He's. He's from American Idol. I was watching American Idol with my family, and he was a teenager at the time, and he got up there, and I think I was like, in middle school or something, and he had this curly hair. It was kind of giving Corbin blue. And he was such a good singer, and he made it very far. He didn't win. I was so distraught.
B
Remember him? Because his hair was a big thing.
A
Yes, his hair was a big thing. It was like that blondie type, kind of this color.
B
The biracial.
A
The biracial brown. Yes. And I was obsessed with him, and I still follow him.
B
Yes.
A
That's my baby.
B
It didn't. It didn't give straight. You should have known. Let me tell you how you should have known. Maybe you're attracted to androgyny because when they throw it. When they throw it to the side like that. That sister.
A
No, he's so.
B
That's amazing.
A
He's so beautiful.
B
He's so pretty.
A
I love him. And I still follow him to this day.
B
That's so fun.
A
And he still sings, of course. He's not like a super megastar, but he is working. He's singing all time, and he's very respected in the vocal community. For sure, because. And he sounds like background singing. No, he just does, like, a lot of just, you know, smaller shows and he's. He'd be working. I just be watching his page.
B
Like, you know what I really love? And I always say this, like, I compare it to being black famous, but, like, I love and am a thousand percent okay for myself. If I'm just the type of person who is like, really well known and respected in my said community, I don't need mainstream or, like, mega success. But I think if you can go to work every day doing what you love. Like how you're describing him, like, no, he's not the biggest star, but he's respected in his community and he stays.
A
Exactly.
B
He stay booked. You win.
A
You got it. That's all you need. You're able to do what you love and make what you love a part of the thing that pays the bills, man.
B
That's amazing. Like, shout out to DeAndre.
A
Yeah, so. And I still have love, you know, love for him in my heart. I still love him so bad. He's just such a cutie. Like, and every time I see him pop up on my for you page, I'll be like, you know, I used to love. Like, I was in love with him. I used to talk about him every day. Like, we have to watch American Idol because DeAndre is singing today.
B
So this isn't a Hear me out, because I feel like a lot of girls liked him. But DeAndre's hair made me think of it. I loved Real Rest in peace from Real chance of love. All my niggas are dead, child. I can't believe this. I couldn't believe, like, I'm so sick that, you know, he died like 10 years ago. He died in 2015. It's been a minute.
A
I remember when I think that that was like, everybody was like, damn, he had cancer. Yep. I do remember that. I had cancer. Yeah, that was sad.
B
Oh, his hair was. His silk press was so good.
A
It was so glorious. Like, his hair was. Yeah, his hair was beautiful. Shout out to real man Shout out to real chance.
B
Shout out to chance. I used to love thee stallion ass.
A
Yes. What a time, man. Reality TV used to be so good. It used to be fun. They used to put real good personalities and really allow them to be themselves. Like, man, reality TV really, really used to be good. And I think now reality TV is. I don't know, it's a couple of issues, but it's like, we're not putting the funding into the reality TV shows that would Actually be worth a damn.
B
Like, yeah, you know what it is? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I just was talking about this because I have been deep into rich people family ensemble shows. So. Like the Kardashians. Kimora, back in the fab lane. I started. I love her, was obsessed with her. Let's just talk about this with Darrington was the Baldwins have a show. There's a show called Love Thy Nader. There's a bunch. But what I'm noticing is they don't give nothing a chance to cook no more. I feel like. And granted, you always had to have a really good first season when shit was like, on cable to stay on cable. I'm not saying this hasn't always been the thing, but with streaming, it seems even more so because on one hand they don't delete the shows so you can still actively watch them. And then on the other hand, they're actively pumping out new shows so you never get the chance to discover, like, old shows. I feel like at least with back with cable, they would. They would send it through the rerun cycle to see how it did to like, let it simmer. You know, I. I really think, like, the Baldwins are fascinating. You know, Alec Baldwin went and had like seven additional kids. And that nigga's like 70. He has seven little kids under the age of 10. His wife. His wife is this white lady whose lies about being Spanish and talks in the Spanish. Like they're fascinating. Exactly. They're fascinating.
A
Okay.
B
The. The. This reality show took place after he accidentally killed that lady. Which, by the way, that was a crazy. By the way. No shade. I'm low key and Alec Baldwin apologist. Because watching the show made me go look up that whole case. That set was from start to finish. Yeah, the.
A
That's. There's never, ever, ever a situation where you are supposed to have a actual real live gun on set. Point blank period. Point blank period. Point blank period. It's irresponsible and neglective. Neglectful for him to be shooting it. Yes. It was never supposed to be a real gun, though, that it. Point blank period.
B
Point blank period. He said he didn't shoot it, but the thing was, it's like if he thinks it's a fake gun, even if he did shoot it, I'm. I'm like practicing for my scene and the scene calls for me to point and shoot. Like, I just. I feel for him because he kind of talks about.
A
She was really.
B
I'm like, it's so up. And then the person, the Prop manager who on movie sets, they have people, especially movie sets like these, where there's guns and stuff. That person had been fired previously from several different sets for not doing their job. Not only that, the assistant director had also been oversets where people got hurt and died previously before it was just like, so this really not this man's fault, y'. All.
A
Yeah, it's not. That's a whole person's job. Like, especially for a set that massive and large. Like there are people who do that professionally. Like props and sets is an entire thing. Like that shit is like, I can't even believe that shit happened like that.
B
I can't either.
A
So fucking ridiculous. And here is my segue into something that I also hate that happens, that is slightly related, but not. You niggas shooting these music videos and hiring videographers and using real guns in your set are going to hell. You are so incredibly dangerous. And the thing is, a lot of the times so these, when we have these music videos, a lot of these music videos are not. They're not up to industry standard as far as liability is concerned, as far as paperwork, right. Sometimes you just hire a videographer, you shoot it and get it on, right? Because that's just the name of the game. You niggas who be having live guns, doing this in front of the camera is crazy as fuck. And I'm telling you videographers right now, you freelance videographers, if you are shooting music videos, you tell them no, you are not going to shoot them. If they want to have live guns, real guns in that video shoot, pointing that at you, you, you're crazy. Don't let them do that. I just had to get that off real quick.
B
I mean, that's real. That shit's crazy.
A
They do that all the time.
B
I mean, think about, think about. This is an actual studio funded millions of dollars project. So I even. They spent, I believe $24 million to make it. It made back 30 or something. So I made the money back. But my point is this had the funding and the backing for them to find a fake gun and put it in this actor's hand. So then putting a real. And then this was the other part. They haven't confirmed this and they probably never will, but I believe it's true given all the other information. Because they were out in the middle of Arizona or wherever the west desert they were shooting. They said the. Because this happened in like the late evening ish. During the morning when they weren't filming, people took the guns from set and were shooting cans.
A
So they knew it was. They. They were real guns with live ammo.
B
Child, all of this is so stupid. Like that lady died in such a stupid way and it's really not her fault. And then this is the thing. The bullet went right through her and hit the behind her. So two people were. Actually, he didn't die, but two people were injured. Like the whole situation is incredibly sad and there are several channels that it should not have. That shouldn't happened. It just shouldn't have. There were like five, six different places where this should have stopped and it didn't. So. Yeah, you guys, I feel really bad for Alec Baldwin. The set. You guys suck. Yeah.
A
Anyways, I. I hate to say it like that, but you know you want to spin it? Sure. Damn. We're about to get into a spin it, guys.
B
Okay.
A
I know you guys love these so freaking much.
B
I'm. I'm gonna do the intro.
A
God damn. Y' all are long winded as. But all right. It better be good.
B
Welcome to our segment. Spin it. This is where you send Jamila and myself, your low down. Did I say that? Jamila and Mecca. Jamila and myself, your low down nasty gutter snipe situations. Now keep in mind, Jamila and I are not PR professionals. We just studied communications in undergrad. We're going to give you a little bit of a PR spin in addition to some advice. We might be a little shady, but. But it's all in good fun. Don't forget to send us your ages, your genders, your sexual orientation. Men, you do have to send your height, races and political affiliations to at unhinged. The moral pod. Gmail.com. jamila what do we have this week?
A
Let's get into it. Female, 26, black. Hi, my name.
B
Thank you. Follow instructions.
A
Hi Megan. Jamila. Let me start by giving you ladies your flowers. I'm a huge fan of the POD and have been enjoying both of yalls TikTok content. Both of y' all have been dying constantly on Twitter as well. So thank you ladies for the last and for teaching me new things as well. You are so welcome.
B
Thank you.
A
I need help permanently, friend zoning this man. Lol. We met in college and he was a friend's roommate. I didn't think much of it. We were cool and I knew he had that hammer shout out to gray sweatpants, but I played it cool and we never talked much at all. He sells gardening supplies. Oh, he the weed man.
B
Gotcha, ain't he?
A
Not forever.
B
Sound like a good time?
A
Not Full time. He has two real jobs. Lol. We've met up a few times within the last couple years. Just for a cop and chat. He was your weed man. I moved to a different city then my hometown. So when I came home I would always show love. I've always liked to his energy and he never made me feel uncomfortable, which I appreciate. I could tell he had a crush on me, but he was. He was trying to not scare the hoes. I value our friendship and understand his journey. So instead of going back. So instead of going my usual block and disappear route, I'm trying to do better. In November I was laid off and had to switch my scenery solo living. I'm tripping. I had to switch my serene solo living to a horrible roommate situation. After seven months of job rejection and weird hater energy, I literally couldn't take it anymore mental breakdown and move back home. During the last few months he has really. He has been really supportive. Encouraging me to come home more and give myself a break from the negativity. Anytime I come home, I'd end up at his house. But ultimately drove my ass back to the city at the end of the night without anything happening. One night I got a little too sauce and he said some NSFW things. What does that mean?
B
NSFW not safe for work. So basically freaky not safe for work.
A
How the did you know that? Is that like a thing?
B
Yeah, it's like a thing.
A
Okay, whatever.
B
Do you. Do you remember when code that come from? Remember when Bernard. Was that the who sent us his dick?
A
Yes.
B
He said he used that acronym too. And that's when I looked it up. Okay.
A
Anyways.
B
This broke. Don't send anyone your dick in 2026, bro.
A
Please. This broke the ice on what I hope to be a solid friends with benefits situation. I have been celibate for almost a year. So it felt nice to have one person who really who only likes fucking once. Wait, what? So. So it felt nice to have one person who only likes fucking one person. Unfortunately I am hot in the tail and we had a pregnancy scare.
B
All right.
A
In which his response was the best possible one a man could give. I'm sorry. And we can take whatever. Clearly it was fetus Deletus. But we didn't even get that far. Shout out to Mother Nature and Aunt Flo the uterus tag team champs. God damn.
B
I mean it needs to be like that sometimes.
A
I feel like that situation brought us closer together, but not in a good way. When we of course had convers. Okay, I Can't read today, guys. Sorry. We of course have had conversations about what we're actually doing and my mindset is really, I like fucking. You know, I like hanging out with you, but the romance is just not there for me. His mindset is essentially, I'll wait for you to be ready. He's a cancer, y', all, and if anything changes, we can talk about it, which is cool. But after sitting with myself, I know that he is not the partner I want. The big issue with having this conversation is timing. He got his second job, then lost his apartment, and I've been helping him navigate that because at the end of the day, he has definitely been a solid friend to me. But it kills me when we're together and I can see him making lovely eyes at me or he's trying to be romantic and I have to say, hey friend. I definitely don't want to kick him while he's down, but I feel like the longer I wait, the more infatuated he becomes with me. I can also tell he's trying to hold back on the lover boy energy and that makes me sad because he really deserves somebody to give him the same. I'm a Pisces lover girl through and through, but I also know myself well enough to differentiate between falling in love and just lusting. He's a great man, just not my man. I want him to win in every aspect of life because he gives so much of himself to everyone around him. I just can't see myself being with him. I feel crazy because I also haven't gotten myself the opportunity to actually date in my twenties. Five years single, and I'd be doing myself a disservice by locking in with a man I know I don't want to be with long term just because of how much he likes me. If I'm going to date, I really want to find my person, which is why the friends will benefit thing works for my current situation. My goal is to save some extra money and move back to the city I came from before March. Already know once I get out there I'd be willing to actually give dating a try and don't want to have the idea of hurting his feelings in the back of my mind. I really just need a way to explain this to him without breaking his heart. I'd rather be his friend than have sex with him and I don't want him to feel like I don't care about him or that he's a leap pad his wording for me. I truly thought this situation would Be beneficial for both of us. But now I'm feeling like I'm subject. Send help.
B
Well, I hate to say this to you, but you can't be friends with that nigga or he not gonna want to be friends with you. There's. There's so. So unfortunately. Okay, let's.
A
You know what I think it is, though?
B
He's ugly. He's ugly.
A
Exactly.
B
He's obviously ugly.
A
He's obviously not somebody you're physically attracted to because you said he got that hammer. You said he's. He' all the good things. The one thing you did not say is that he's fine as. And you think that he's very attractive. He's not attracted to you. You are not attracted to that man. And that's okay, too. I want you to know that's okay, too. But I just want to say that out loud because for some reason, I.
B
Picked it up instantly when she said, he got the hammer and he's so nice. But she ain't say nothing else.
A
I said, oh, you don't got it ugly.
B
Okay.
A
You're not really into him like that. And because you feel like he's not fine and sexy. And again, okay, I agree.
B
This is my thing. To me, I don't ever think anyone should really, even on someone you're not physically attracted to, because you end up in situations like this one where it's like, no matter how good they are, it's very hard for most people to see past, like, not being physically attracted. I'm not saying it's impossible. It happens sometimes, but, like, it's not the norm.
A
And, you know, the thing is, it happens sometimes for those people who. That's not important to them. If that's important to you, which it is for me, it's important to a lot. And I feel like I need to normalize.
B
I need to find you sexy. And I. I'll be real. Me and Jamila don't find all the same sexy, but I need to find you sexy. I mean, yeah, it doesn't matter what.
A
Other people say if you do, if you are not attracted to your partner, in my personal opinion, I don't think it's going to work because at some point, the lore of them being nice, funny, cool is going to run dry because you're going to be so tempted by the fine and sexy people you see all around you, and there's not going to be anything to stop you from cheating. That's just in my humble opinion. Now, you may think otherwise, but I don't I don't think that, like, you need to be. Now, again, attraction can't be the only thing, obviously. I think we all know that, right? Everyone always says it can't be all about looks. We know that. Right. Like, yes, you cannot. But what's the successful relationship? A successful relationship is not based off of solely looks, but that's a big fucking part of it, bitch. I do think that you are fine and sexy to want to fall in love with you. I don't think I can fall in love with somebody that I don't find attractive. Now, what is attractive? Who knows, right? Could whatever I find attractive may not be whatever that is super subjective. Who cares about what she thinks?
B
The millionaire is attractive.
A
Well.
B
This is. And I think Gregory Hines is attractive. So that's why we're saying it is subjective. You know, it's just subjective on what you like.
A
It is.
B
But I don't think y' all stay friends. I really gotta be honest with you.
A
I think that it's possible.
B
Not right away, though.
A
They only had sex once, though.
B
Oh, it was only.
A
That's what I'm like. That's what it seemed like in the message. It seemed like they only had sex one time. And then there was the scare and it was kind of like, ah, okay.
B
So I.
A
Okay, I will say, sister, I have to be honest with you. You did kind of fuck up by fucking him. If you knew he was. If he really had his crush on you and you didn't like him. Now you didn't gave him the illusion that there's a possibility. I will say that however, it's not something that's completely hard to like, backtrack from. There's now how you do this once.
B
You're fine if you've. Now we perceive this differently. I thought you was fucking. That's your fuck buddy. But if not, if it. Let's go. Let's go off of one.
A
No, because she was saying she thought she could. She thought it was gonna be a friends with benefit situation. They end up fucking. It became a pregnancy scare and then after that, he damn near kind of was like, even more like into her. And she's kind of like, I don't think I. So now she's kind of trying to figure out what to do. That's how I feel.
B
That does change things. That changes my opinion.
A
Yeah. So I think that in this scenario, this is what I'm going to tell you to do, sister girl, you need to start to put some distance between y'.
B
All.
A
I don't mean Necessarily physical distance. But I do mean physical distance, right? So say. Because I know you said that's. That's your weed man. I'm not saying he gotta stop being a weed man, especially if he's overliable. You know what I'm saying? If he gonna give you the good discount. You know what I'm saying? So if you go cop, cop, and leave, you don't need to cop and match, okay? That's how y' all give. Because then you hide. And when you hide, you horny, okay? So go ahead and cop and leave. Below, I gotta go ahead and go, right?
B
This is how you know I don't smoke for real, because I ain't heard these words in about a decade, since I was in college. Oh, you want to match me? I ain't heard that in so long.
A
This bitch is a smoker. She know you cop and leave. Right? And the thing is, limit the conversation. You don't reach out to him ever, unless you need weed, Right? So now you are putting in that space of, this is my relationship with you. This is how I'm showing up for you. Right. And if he reaches out to you, I'm not saying you have to ignore him, especially because you said you want to maintain a friendship, but you need to be very short and drive with him. You have to put in a lot of distance and a lot of boundaries within yourself right now immediately. Before it gets to the thick of it. Because it's not like he's confessed his love for you again. So it's like, you still have time to, like, swoop. You immediately need to start talking to a. And start talking about that nigga around him. Make that nigga answer the phone while you with him copping like that. Niggas will get the fucking picture. You know what I'm saying? He's gonna pick it like, okay. Type shit. I should go ahead and do that. Get you a new nigga immediately.
B
I was gonna say, you should get the new nigga today.
A
Yeah. I don't know how you gonna do.
B
That, but start telling him. You said, this your homeboy. So I went on this date, like, just. And tell him, yes, homeboy, that, yo, I went on a date. Or if you like what you about to go do. I'm about to go on a date. That's why. Yes.
A
Even if you don't even have a date that night. Yeah.
B
Like, damn near lie about it, but slide it into your next interaction with him so that he can.
A
Yes. And do it so casually to a point where it's like, oh, he don't make it seem like you're trying to get a reaction to him because that is going to spark a little bit of. It's like, oh, she want me to be jealous. No. Like, no, it's not even that Be so casual with it to the point where it's just like, no. Because like we're friends. And if he says anything like, oh, I just, I. I figured we was just on something that is to have.
B
To be honest with him in that moment. Which could be good because you get out the way.
A
But if, but if he's, if, if he's a real. He is not gonna ask that question. He's gonna, he's gonna catch the hint and just be cool. Cuz you say he's really. He's a real chill. So like if he is a real chill, he's gonna catch the vibe, right?
B
And he's gonna talking to other.
A
Oh, got it. Cool. She ain't on that. Okay, bet. Let me just. You know what I'm saying?
B
I mean, let me just.
A
And you be straight. You. The fact that you feel like you have to like move cities and though like, girl, it ain't that deep. You act like this your best BFF for life. Like you just met this for real.
B
This was somebody roommate.
A
You don't know. This your plug?
B
This is your plug plug. And I want you to.
A
I need to remind you, this is your plug.
B
I mean, I'll let the smoker talk because I don't understand the plug them dynamics.
A
Well, hold on. I'm not just a smoker moker. I don't cops nothing. I don't have no weed man or nothing like that. I just. You know what I'm saying? Every now and then if there is a rotation, I will grab it in.
B
Hampton, Cousy used to be having like lavender. The last time I for real smoked, she had mixed it with like lavender and like flowers and for like a.
A
She's so dainty.
B
Girl gone.
A
You don't roll that up in a piece of paper.
B
She had the flowers and the chamomile. I don't know what the hell. I know it was lavender for showing that I'm crying.
A
That's funny.
B
As she had a whole little mix. I said, I know that's right. We as girls.
A
You don't just right so girly flowers. And she's so girly. That's so funny. Yeah, well, yeah, girl, I can tell you to do.
B
I also think you should be prepared because I just on the flip End got a lot of ego. Now you said your friend is chill. I'm not saying he would do this per se, but if a like you and then you don't like him back and he doing something for you as in like here he's your weed man. The dynamic could get weird. So just be prepared like obviously you don't want to lose him as a friend, but do be prepared for that possibility especially.
A
And be prepared for that. And no shade, no tea if that get up out his body about that check that I'm not your and I never was.
B
Yeah.
A
You don't know why you acting like this, right?
B
We're not.
A
We never even had no conversation.
B
That's what I'm saying. Especially like I. I get that you trying to handle it casually but the. The turning point here was when you had the miscarriage. And I can tell you as someone.
A
Who no, she didn't have a miscarriage. She had a pregnancy scare and she had a period. She was late. She had her period.
B
Oh yeah, my bad. I thought when she said thank shout out to mother Nature I thought that was a miscarriage.
A
That's why she had pregnancy. So pregnancy scare is like oh, I might be like I. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? Because if she was pregnant she would have just said I got pregnant. Now pregnancy scare is before you tested. Like maybe you missed your period. You know, this, that in between period. Like I don't know what the going on but something. Yeah. Nah, she just had.
B
That's crazy. I'd be happy. I'd be calling everything a scare. Well, I'm just saying what's now now that I. She ain't had no abortion. But just, just from the aspect of even having a scare that can bring. That does bring people closer together. They feel bonded and. And I went on a merry go round for like two years and my abortion baby daddy child just off the strength of if. If we had had the baby it would have been a son.
A
Thinks she Daenerys Targaryen, get out of here. It would have been a son.
B
It would have been a son.
A
Get the out of here.
B
So I'm just. I know do that. That's why I'm saying if he like that you need to be prepared for him not to react kindly to this. And when I say kindly, I mean like just not want to be your friend. You might even want to start scoping new plugs whole time.
A
Oh God.
B
No, I'm serious. If you. If you were serious.
A
Go Ahead and prep. It's not the only plug. And then again, if you're going back to the city and like, you not you gonna need a new plug anyway. If you're going back to the city, you're not trying to go back to the country or whatever the hell.
B
Right.
A
Just for some weed. Yeah. And it's just like he's. And also he got all this going on. Okay, well, I don't what all this going on. I don't want all that. Like, it's especially. Because that's not your. Or you don't want him to be your. You don't have to hold this down while he's going through a hard time.
B
And the other thing is you. You said this several times or a couple times at least. You're worried about his feelings. And although I can really empathize with that because I. When I've had to break up with that is my, like, big thing. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. The one thing I have learned is that I'm doing more damage by, like, dragging it out versus just, like, cutting the cord and allowing them the time to heal and backing up. Because the other piece is y' all are friends. So it's like you about to hurt his feelings. Hurt his feelings and give him a little space. Not to say if the rose were.
A
Reversed, you think the would give a. About your feelings. Or he could just get a new.
B
Wait, wait, wait, wait. And that's what woke me up. I actually. Someone said that to me when I was talking about hurting feelings. She was like, don't care about hurting our feelings things ever, ever, ever.
A
And I'm not saying be like right? I'm not saying be like and be like heartless and cold. I'm just saying, like, you're giving a lot of consideration for somebody who is not your boyfriend. And not even close. This is a you who's also your one. And he cool every now and again. So what, is he giving you the weed for free?
B
Oh, if you're paying. If you're a paying customer, tell that get the on.
A
Like girl, but no shade. Y' all gotta stop fucking the weed man for weed. You fucking the tweet man for tweet.
B
Says the bitch who text the text man for text. Who fucks the text man for text.
A
That's one of the best tweets I ever seen in my fucking life. You fucking the text man for text.
B
You ain't getting shit from that nigga. You text. At least I'm getting some Smoke, bitch. I know that's fucking right.
A
But nah, like you. If you. You don't know how to like, cut off. Don't. The weed man.
B
Yeah, you.
A
Your plug.
B
Yeah. That's bad for business.
A
Mind you. It don't sound like you getting this for free.
B
That's. And that's my thing. That's my thing. Why? No, it's not even making sense, baby. I'm not.
A
Oh, my God. What are you getting out of this?
B
Just feelings. Big dick annoyance.
A
Big y' all be thinking that there's only one big dick in the world. I want to tell you from experience, there's not.
B
Oh, I'm gonna say there are so many big dicks.
A
There's plenty.
B
And they have different shapes and girls and sizes and turns and angles.
A
Balls.
B
Some have tight balls.
A
Some have saggy balls.
B
Yes, I like saggy balls.
A
We know you like saggy balls. Not because she was on a saggy ball. Ran every goddamn every show.
B
Let me tell you guys, saggy balls hitting it from the back. It's gonna tickle your clit.
A
They do.
B
Well, a little slap and she go. If you see how she agreed with me. She didn't say it was wrong.
A
You're not wrong. But am I about to get on here? I love saggy balls. I love, like.
B
No, I'm not. Aesthetically, they're not as pleasing, though.
A
You know what I mean? Like low ass balls.
B
Like, aesthetically, it's like, oh. But I mean, they serve a purpose, so I guess I'll let it ride. There's nothing I can do. What if they had a surgery to tighten up balls? They probably do.
A
I. I'm. I just. They have to be. If they have vaginal rejuvenation surgery where they're cutting lips.
B
Oh, well, we actually do that. The spa. Vaginal rejuvenation. You can get it surgically or you can get it, like, non invasively. It's where we put this, like, machine that's like really long, like a penis. And you. We put a condom on it and it sends like, light pulses to tighten up your walls and make it so you can get wet. We have a lot of clients who are like, postmenopausal and are having problems getting wet because it helps with that. And it can also, if you put it on your clit, make your clit more sensitive. If you're in Houston and you're interested, visit Fit Me aesthetics website, Straight Face.
A
Does that hurt?
B
No. Okay. I mean, I had it done to just like, feel what it felt like. And it's just like, it's just like a little pulse. Like, it's like. It's like a dildo, but it's connected to a machine. Okay. Yeah, I don't. Like. I don't do it. Ashley does all that because it can't actually send sensations, so you can't actually orgasm during the process.
A
Is nothing in your clinic?
B
Ashley said she's had clients nut before.
A
Do they moan, or is it kind of like a silent.
B
What? She told me she was like. The lady was trying not to because it's, like, obviously embarrassing, but it's like, she did, like, because it's literally. It's literally pulsing you. It's sending, like, light energy. It makes you tighter, too. And we get a lot of women who come in, like. Like I said, postmenopausal or after they've had a baby to tighten everything back up, but it naturally tightens up, but, you know, to, like, make sure everything's working.
A
All right.
B
Well, that's been another episode of Unhinged Memorial.
A
But have you seen the vaginal rejuvenation surgeries?
B
I have no. So the surgery. The lip, where they. If your labia is very long, where they can shorten your labia and bring it back in.
A
That makes my coochie hurt. Just the thought of slicing and dicing the labia majora minora.
B
Who cares if you have a big labia? It doesn't really matter.
A
I've heard some women say that if it's really, really extended labia minora, it could be uncomfortable.
B
So I think it's more.
A
So I guess a comfort thing. But I feel like if that. That's probably, like, when they have really excessive labia.
B
No, it's like, I know people again, because we do this at the spa. Like, I know this is a thing, and they do it for cosmetic purposes as well.
A
Like, I'm sure I've seen Dr. Miami do a fat transfer into the lips to give a fat, too. I said, okay. I didn't.
B
People paying for what I got. My God.
A
I'm like, you, sister. I just. You want a fat that bad that. I mean, no judgment. I'm just surgically. It just seems like, okay, you know what I mean? Bitches just spending money on anything.
B
Like, it's not that deep.
A
Like, it's not that deep to have big coochie lips. It's not.
B
It's not like, as someone's big coochie.
A
Lip, it's not that serious. It has big cuchi lips.
B
In fact, it's annoying because it's like, everyone's always like, oh, I can see a print. It's like, I'm just living life, man. Please. Like, you just want it. Just. You just want attention. If you went and got it and got it because you want attention.
A
A ppl out here getting ppls. All right. You make me sick. I do feel like no shade. A lot of y' all have body dysmorphia.
B
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
A
I'm sorry.
B
Like, it happens so often.
A
I'm sorry.
B
With the surgery girls. It's so. And it's really interesting, too. I've talked about this on TikTok, where, like, I've had clients who. I think when y' all see big, outrageous BBLs, that's not. That's not their first BBL. They've had, like, two or three. And it starts out because they go get the one, and they're like, oh, I look so good. And then, like, if I had a little bigger. A little smaller waist, but a little bigger. But. And it's like, you keep doing that.
A
It's like you're just gonna keep chasing something.
B
Yeah. That's not real.
A
You can't get.
B
And now you look crazy and every. And you're mad that people are telling you look crazy. And it really does start with dysmorphia because of the way the body swells after liposuction and bbl. So you see yourself at a certain size for what, like, three, four months? And then everything goes down and you feel like you need to go back. It's just like. It's. It's a vicious process that you should absolutely be aware of before you go get one if you're gonna do that.
A
Y. Speaking of body dysmorphia and surgery, I will be getting my breast done this year. Oh, you schedule spoiler alert.
B
Not yet.
A
I still have one more consultation this Friday with a different office, just to kind of compare and contrast. Um, but, yes, I will be getting my titties done.
B
Do you know what type of implants you want?
A
Motiva.
B
Interesting. Yes.
A
Motiva. Silicone, um, under the muscle per. Um, between 300 and 350cc. It's to be determined. But, yeah, when I looked at the simulation and they, like, of course, took pictures and everything, and then show what it would be after the things I said. Bitch, put them in right now. Bitch, can I lay on the table right the fuck now?
B
Shit. God damn it.
A
I can't wait to get me some tits, y'.
B
All.
A
As you know. You know, I did have a baby, but it's not the having the baby that altered my tits, guys. Actually, it was breastfeeding. So before I had a child, I was a B cup. I always had very, very small boobies, right? Just I had a scoop of boob. A scoop, okay? And so when I got pregnant, my boobs swelled a little bit just with the hormones. Okay, cool. A B and a half. You know what I'm saying? It was still nothing crazy, but when that milk came in, my titties got so big. I was, I. I loved my titties. When I was breastfee, I would just stare in the mirror and look at those big old juicy jugs full of milk and just be like, wow, the woman you are. You know what I mean? The woman you are today. And so I breastfed for about a year and a half. And then after that, of course, the milk starts to kind of just like, it takes a while to completely leave out. But after that, like, because my boobs, My boobs grew from a B cup to like a double D. And so I had a lot of stretching and so now I had all this volume leave. So then your boobs kind of deflate, but I still have all the extra skin. I can pull my titties out here, they're so stretchy. I don't have no issue, you know, I'm saying, like, they're cool or whatever. I've never had, you know, a complaint.
B
And you won't because that shit's not real.
A
You know what I'm saying? Just, you know, for reference. I've never had no one ever. Just because I want the ladies of. Hello. I just want the ladies to hear from the perspective of someone who's experiencing this real time. Because I know sometimes you can feel like, you know, like. Oh, I don't wanna.
B
No.
A
Has ever had an issue, let me.
B
Tell you, putting them.
A
Putting them. Them things in their mouth. That's all I'm saying.
B
I was 100 pounds heavier. I used to throw that T shirt off and get better. Ball ass naked under the lights. You're this far in the situation we're about to.
A
Because it's like, it's still.
B
It already know I'm fat.
A
It's still a titty.
B
What are we talking about? I feel like any like I. I get it, like self conscious. I'm not gonna even sit here in front. Like, I'm not someone who has parts of my body that I'm self conscious about. But in certain situations, just like, that actually doesn't matter here. Like, I'm the only one thinking about this. So let me just like, yeah, shut the up and enjoy what's going on. Yes. Like, I'm about to get my back beat in. You know, why am I. Why am I tripping off the back roll? This doesn't matter.
A
Hello. And I will say for me, I wanted to get to a place where I was completely comfortable with. This may sound backwards, but this just. This is just the way my mind works. I wanted to get to a place where I was completely comfortable with my body before I even thought about changing it. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think it makes sense to try and overly change your body when you are in a level of discomfort with it, because that. I think that that is a way that you can slip into body dysmorphia. Of course, my body changed a lot post pregnancy and breastfeeding and all those things, but I did not want, like, I did not get back. I didn't like, oh, I need to get into the gym so I can lose this weight. I was not on that at all. I was like, no, I'm going to just sit in this and I'm going to become comfortable with. With what my body is post pregnancy because I do not want to have all these body image issues. And even today, like, even though I want to get my titties done, and I am gonna get my titties done, I don't have a. Like, I'm not self conscious about them. If a boy was here right now and wanted to unclothe me, I would stand just like this and let him do it and stare them deep in his eyes. You're gonna look at these titties that's pointing downward. They're laying on my chest that's swinging like this. And you're gonna pick them up and eat them, you know, sit like this while I do it. You know what I mean? I would look in the mirror right now and be like, period. It's a tip. It's a tit for attack. What are we talking about? Have you seen titties? So many different flavors and shapes. Just like the penises we were talking about earlier. I mean, but I have always wanted big titties since I was a little girl. And I'm gonna get those big titties today because I want big titties. Why I like big titties.
B
I mean, are you going to get like. But titties, like, for your body?
A
I'm gonna get big. The biggest titties known to me. I'm gonna look like Wendy Williams and Coco. I'm just playing. I'm not gonna. I ain't gonna go that crazy, but. Nah, you go.
B
I'm.
A
I'm walking in titties first, though. I'm walking in tit first.
B
Titties first. Yeah, I feel that I'm walking in titties first.
A
I'm damn near using my own titties as reference pictures. Pictures. I got. I got the. I got the titties to show you when I had that milk full blast. Give me these back. I want these back. That's it. I want these back.
B
So you're. And that's actually really healthy. I want mine.
A
I want my titties back.
B
Give me mine.
A
Give me my tits.
B
I don't want anyone else's fair.
A
So.
B
Yeah.
A
And I. I was gonna actually do lipo360s. Well, I was gonna do a full mom makeover, but no shade, no tea. Got guys. Who would have thought going to the gym actually does work. I have been actively losing my tummy.
B
I actually.
A
I don't know, was lying.
B
It worked. It.
A
Listen, I'm not completely done with my transformation, but come my birthday.
B
Oh, yeah, you'll definitely. If you're. If you're doing your consults now, you'll probably. Are you looking at February, March to do your surgery? You'll for sure be done by your birthday.
A
I want you guys to know that when I reveal this body, you're gonna be sick.
B
You should also make sure you do it kind of well because you need to give your tits time to drop a little bit.
A
That's the only thing you gonna see. These titties when it's in my neck, I never gave a damn. I don't give a. Let's watch. Let's watch them drop. Let's do it. Let's do an active like. Let's see Jamila's titties today. Wait. We are currently at a 45 degree angle, y'.
B
All.
A
Let's see. Let's check back.
B
We're gonna have them all drop.
A
Yes. We gonna let. Let's watch Jamila's titties drop. It's gonna be a whole like. Yeah. I'm telling you guys now that I'm getting them done. There's no secrets. Like I'm telling you guys now. You're about to see new titties on my chest.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay.
B
All right. New New year, New tits.
A
New year, New tits.
B
New year, New tits.
A
And it's so exciting.
B
It is.
A
The only thing I'm a little Anxious about is the recovery. Because he was saying, like, of course they can't lift your arms above your head. And he said the recovery time is three to four weeks. Not that I have to be bedridden for three to four weeks, but like the full recovery, you know. And I have a toddler.
B
Yeah.
A
Who is still obsessed with my boobs. Guys, I'm gonna have to keep him far the away from me for a minimum of a week because he would literally jump on my boobs, be like.
B
Oh, yeah, he can't do that. So.
A
And then like, he always wants me to pick him up. So I'm gonna have to like, really, of course, figure that part out. And then of course, like, I am kind of a workaholic. And I do. I'm like, I can't.
B
I'm not doing.
A
Not doing for three, four weeks is not acceptable. We're gonna have to figure out something. So that's the only part that I'm.
B
Kind of just like down for three to four weeks.
A
Yeah, you're not down for three to four weeks.
B
I feel like mostly like a week is like the bed part. And then after that you have to move slow. Obviously you don't want to pop a stitch, but like, you can still work. Definitely work from home. You would be able to record and do this. Like there's stuff that you'll be able to do.
A
Oh, I could. And then imagine me recording and I. I'll just like be in my. My surgery bra and I'll show you guys how my new titties in her.
B
In her cotton.
A
And I'll show you guys. Like, I'll be like, hey, guys. So we are two weeks post op. My brains are hard. My titties are in my neck. I cannot lift my arms. I can barely laugh.
B
But I'm having tomorrow.
A
Welcome to unhinged. I. I actually do plan on doing that anyway. Cuz like I said, I don't just plan on not doing for three, four weeks. Now. They did say, of course. Like, you can't work out. Like, I'm gonna follow doctor's orders for sure. One thing about me I never played about, I don't doctor. I never played about a doctor.
B
I never play about a doctor.
A
I never played about a doctor. The doctor tell me to sit my ass down. That's what I'm a damn do.
B
Okay.
A
You know, and one thing I have done before is underestimated surgery when I had to get my tonsils removed. And he was like, yeah, you gonna like, this is a minimum two week Recovery. And I'm like, all right. Bet I was definitely underestimating. I'm thinking like, yeah, but not for me. I don't know why I always think I'm different and special. I am. Somebody tell you the something? Getting the tonsil removed is one of the hardest things I've ever experienced. I feel like that recovery was damn near worse than recovering from labor.
B
Really?
A
Because I couldn't talk.
B
Oh, y' all know me?
A
Do you know me?
B
Yeah.
A
Mind you, I'm not saying I couldn't talk. It was painful to talk.
B
I was like, yeah.
A
And I just would cry every day, and I couldn't eat, bro. Like, that was pissy. I could not eat. I was so hungry and talkative, and I couldn't talk. And I'm just sitting there like. Like, I'm full of thoughts and I can't speak. I'm hungry, and I can't eat.
B
Full of thoughts.
A
I couldn't do that. I loved.
B
I haven't had my tonsils removed, but I have had tonsillitis, and I had a similar experience.
A
I tonsilit for two years.
B
I had it in college when I had to fucking talk, and I was.
A
Like, yeah, I can't. I had tonsillitis for two years straight. It would just come on and off. And that's what caused me to have to get them removed, because the Christmas before I got my tonsils removed, they swelled up.
B
Up.
A
Within a matter of a couple hours, I woke up. My Thompson had gotten so big. It looked like I had golf balls in my neck, and they were closing in on each other, and I had to get on a plane. That same day, I get on the plane, and I'm going to Texas for. For Christmas. I had to go to the emergency room because my breathing was being distorted, and I could barely talk. And they said, we're gonna get you four shots of your ass, bitch. If the swelling does not start to go down, you're getting emergency surgery. It went down, and I had to schedule my surgery as soon as I got back home. It was bad.
B
That's insane. I know. When I had tonsillitis, it got really bad. First of all, whatever they gave me, I was allergic to. So my eyes swelled up. And then at some. This was, like. During the height of, like, codeine. They gave me codeine to, like, knock me out. Hated. It was like, how are you guys drug addicts?
A
I. I hate those things. Whatever the fuck them codeine, hydrocodones, codeine.
B
I don't like none of them pills because them pills like slow me down and made me tired.
A
It literally. I had to take one of those. And I kid you not, I was laying in the bed. I opened my eyes. It felt like I had arms coming out of the bed and pulling me back into the bed like this. That's what I felt like. I felt like I just couldn't move.
B
I couldn't move.
A
I hated it.
B
Bad.
A
Get off of the drugs, people.
B
No drugs.
A
I love you.
B
All right, except for if you're a casual cokehead. Well, that's been another episode of Unhinged Immoral. Don't forget to, like, comment and subscribe. And you can listen to this wherever we listen to your podcast. Don't forget to subscribe to our patreon. It is $8 a month. You get these episodes on Tuesday versus Thursday in addition to, like extra little goodies and series that we're doing.
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In their signature bold and hilarious style, Mecca and Jamila welcome listeners to the first Unhinged & Immoral episode of 2026. This week, the duo dives into New Year routines, the realities of returning to structure, their thoughts on gossip culture, generational shifts in music education, and an on-air “Spin It” segment featuring a listener’s relationship dilemma. They bring plenty of personal anecdotes, irreverent pop culture analysis, and unapologetic advice for the messy situations that fans send in.
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