Karlous Miller is Unhinged!!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Unhinged & Immoral

Episode: Karlous Miller is Unhinged!!

Release Date: November 26, 2025
Hosts: Jamila Bell, Mecca Evans
Guest: Karlous Miller

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Brief Overview

In this infectiously wild and honest episode, hosts Jamila and Mecca welcome comedian, actor, and cultural mainstay Karlous Miller. Together, they navigate internet gossip, generational comedy shifts, and the shaky ground of internet backlash. With a signature blend of humor, unfiltered anecdotes, and unpretentious wisdom, the trio reflects on Karlous’s career, modern cancel culture, the evolution of comedy (especially internet comedians vs. standup), and the complexities of relationships, both personal and professional. There are lively sidebars about Black culture, regional quirks, and a hilarious, unsparing advice segment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Karlous’s Roots & Atlanta’s Evolution

Timestamps 02:07 – 05:20

• Karlous details his Mississippi upbringing and shares stories about the unique cultures of North, Central, and Coastal Mississippi.
• The hosts reminisce with Karlous about Atlanta’s Greenbriar Mall, 2005 Atlanta fashion (tall tees!), and the city’s evolution.
• The conversation is peppered with nostalgia, highlighting local color and humorously lamenting what’s changed.

Notable Quote:
"It ain't in this case just Black. Straight out the Mississippi woods." – Karlous Miller (02:07)

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2. Cancel Culture, Comedy, and Backlash

Timestamps 06:11 – 13:00

• Karlous and the hosts explore the challenge of offending people in comedy. Karlous maintains a relaxed attitude, focusing on the audience that “gets it.”
• Discussion of “sensitive” crowds, the difference between being funny and being mean, and the mental mentality needed to withstand public scrutiny.

Notable Quotes:
"You gotta be a pretty up person to go to a comedy show and get mad… your spirit ain't right." – Karlous Miller (06:22)
"You have to really adopt that mindset… past having thick skin, you have to change your entire mental about how you're gonna approach public opinion." – Jamila (11:02)

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3. Internet Drama and Colorism in Black Spaces

Timestamps 13:04 – 14:50

• The hosts recount social media drama about being called “light-skinned” or “not really Black,” and their encounters with colorism accusations.
• Karlous shares his own family experiences and pokes fun at internet discourse.

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4. Longevity in Comedy and Platform Adaptation

Timestamps 15:21 – 22:00

• Karlous reflects on staying relevant across different platforms (from Comic View to TikTok).
• Emphasizes the importance of specificity and authenticity in his comedy.
• Hosts position Karlous as a generational influence and discuss the value of understanding comedy history.

Notable Quotes:
"The first step is to get on there and to see what, what drives the platforms and how to engage with different audiences." – Karlous Miller (15:36)_
"But see one thing about good shit, it don't matter how old it is – still funny." – Karlous Miller (18:53)_

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5. Internet Comedians vs. Stand-up Comedians

Timestamps 20:10 – 24:16

• Candid debate about “internet comedians” who attempt stand-up: Karlous insists there’s a vital difference.
• Strong endorsement for staying in one’s lane and authentic translation of a style (e.g., Drewski as a “comedic actor” rather than a standup).

Notable Quotes:
"They're not supposed to… they're Internet comedians, not standup comedians. The things they can do, standup comedians can't do, and vice versa." – Karlous Miller (20:10)
"If I was…booked to do a stand up joint. I'm coming out, and I'm about to put this whole crowd in my skit… But to go on stage and just die and bomb and struggle…why would you do that?" – Karlous Miller (21:08)

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6. AI, Internet Memes, and Black Iconography

Timestamps 24:22 – 26:27

• The group cracks up over Karlous being called out for reposting an AI-generated meme of Martin Luther King Jr.—leading to a high-energy, tongue-in-cheek “apology tour.”

Memorable Moment:
"I'm sorry to the whole King family… It was not intentional… I got kicked out the black community. Something I never thought could happen." – Karlous Miller (25:54)

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7. Work History and ‘Black Employee Logic’

Timestamps 26:29 – 30:41

• Hilariously honest stories about all three getting fired from jobs (Walmart, Target, Avis, Wild ’N Out).
• Black work culture “math”: stretching errands, double lunches, eating for free, and ‘seniority’ philosophies.

Notable Quote:
"Plus I feel like once I got some seniority in the job, you can't really tell me what time to be there for real." – Karlous Miller (27:41)_

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8. Streaming, Cable TV, and the Loss of ‘Recipes’

Timestamps 32:03 – 33:44

• Nostalgia for classic MTV/VH1/BET shows—lamenting streaming’s effect on traditional Black TV.
• Consensus that “streaming killed TV” for good and bad.

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9. College Hill Controversy & Social Commentary

Timestamps 33:52 – 41:07

• Hosts press Karlous about heated moments from his appearance on “College Hill,” specifically about homelessness and government priorities.
• Karlous delivers passionate, blunt, and sometimes provocative takes on American social issues.

Notable Quotes:
"I'm a black man, like, from Mississippi. Really started at the very bottom. So for people to sit there and be like, oh, I'm like, no, you get your ass up and do something…" – Karlous Miller (35:00)_
"Everybody is really like, three bad situations getting rolled from being up." – Karlous Miller (37:09)_

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10. Black Cultural Traditions, Funerals, Family, and Food

Timestamps 44:00 – 60:46

• The group riff on Black family funerals, food, and generational quirks—from lanyards and wings in funeral photos to family-specific food hierarchies.
• Also touches on Black parenting (feeding babies chicken bones!) and regional differences among Black women.

Comedy Gold:
"They’ll have a house sitting there vacant for years […] and they got people on that same street… and they said it’s your fault." – Jamila & Karlous, on housing (38:18)_

"When I worked at my friend's Jamaican restaurant, shout out to Juicy Jerk… I used to put me a rib to the side every time I cut it up." – Jamila (29:41)_

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11. Dating Preferences and Relationship Games (“Hell Date”)

Timestamps 50:38 – 66:13

• In a “Hell Date” inspired rapid-fire Q&A, Karlous breaks down his preferences, from loving “titties” and favoring women his own age, to why he avoids women “exposed to the industry.”
• Honest commentary on Southern women, dating outside his race, and “sniper” culture.
• Playful banter on dating games and what men look for.

Notable Quotes:
"I like fine ass women who ain't really did too much... Like, not sheltered – she just ain't been exposed to like the industry." – Karlous Miller (52:54)_
"If your work pants don’t fit right, that’s ass. But you can’t buy that fake ass, don’t put that dent in that… in the middle of that belt." – Karlous Miller (54:49)_
"My biggest turn off? I don't like dumb women. I love a motherfucker who's smart, that's how you get me." – Karlous Miller (66:13)_

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12. Advice Segment: “Spin It”

Timestamps 67:45 – 84:09

• Jamila, Mecca, and Karlous respond to a listener whose boyfriend has been unemployed for a year and has little job-seeking motivation.
• The advice is both comic and practical: Karlous encourages the boyfriend to “break up with her” for sharing their business online, Mecca and Jamila suggest re-evaluating the relationship, paying attention to real needs versus “community” opinions, and—above all—good communication before making decisions.

Notable Quotes:
"My advice would be to the dude: break up with her. She all on the Internet telling all y’all... You can’t trust this lady with nothing." – Karlous Miller (71:36)_
"One thing I know about a man: a be broke for too long, he get mean." – Jamila (75:11)_

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Notable Quotes Recap

• “You gotta be a pretty up person to go to a comedy show and get mad… your spirit ain't right.” — Karlous Miller (06:22)
• “If it was me and they booked me to do a stand up joint… I'm about to put this whole crowd in my skit.” — Karlous Miller (21:08)
• “Streamin’ killed TV because it gave us the freedom to watch what we wanted to watch when we wanted to watch it.” — Karlous Miller (33:27)
• “Mississippi women… know how to fight, braid hair, cook. They tough as hell.” — Karlous Miller (57:48)
• “I like fine ass women who ain't really did too much… Not sheltered, she just ain't been exposed to the industry.” — Karlous Miller (52:54)
• “One thing I know about a man: a be broke for too long, he get mean.” — Jamila (75:11)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Greeting/Karlous Intro: 01:52
• Atlanta/Mississippi Stories: 02:07 – 05:20
• Comedy & Cancel Culture: 06:11 – 13:00
• Colorism & Internet Drama: 13:04 – 14:50
• Comedy Evolution: 15:21 – 22:00
• Internet vs. Stand-up: 20:10 – 24:16
• AI Memes & MLK: 24:22 – 26:27
• Work Stories: 26:29 – 30:41
• MTV Nostalgia: 32:03 – 33:44
• College Hill/Politics: 33:52 – 41:07
• Black Family, Food, Funerals: 44:00 – 60:46
• “Hell Date” (Dating Q&A): 50:38 – 66:13
• Advice Segment (“Spin It”): 67:45 – 84:09

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Tone & Overall Vibe

This episode is candid, lively, and deeply rooted in Black Southern humor and realness. Jamila and Mecca’s rapport with Karlous means the conversation is unfiltered and flows with tangents, but always circles back to relatable truths about culture, ambition, resilience, and relationships. The repartee is often hilarious, sometimes cutting, but always grounded in a sense of community and cultural pride.

Bottom Line: Fans of pop culture, comedy, and internet debates—or simply Black family realness—will find this episode a must-listen: equal parts funny, vulnerable, nostalgic, and smart.

Transcript

[Jamila]

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[Carlos Miller]

Hey, thanks for having me.

[Jamila]

And he's not Spanish, y'. All.

[Carlos Miller]

I absolutely at all, at all disappoint y'.

[Jamila]

All. A we should have known from the cave, but the cave gave it away. Honestly, a whole. But you know, you have to ask. It could be. It could be Afro Latino, so you never know.

[Carlos Miller]

N. It ain't in this case just black. Straight out the Mississippi woods.

[Jamila]

What part of Miss are you from?

[Carlos Miller]

Oxford. Home of the old Ms. Rebels.

[Jamila]

Okay, that sounds like deep south to me.

[Carlos Miller]

That's actually north.

[Jamila]

I don't know too much about Mississippi. We've been to Jackson.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, but see, Jackson, we're closer to Memphis. I'm from Northeast.

[Jamila]

Ah, okay. Okay.

[Carlos Miller]

Damn. Now is like right there.

[Jamila]

So similar culturally.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, well, I guess it's a lot of different parts of Mississippi, so I.

[Jamila]

Know everybody reps their city differently.

[Carlos Miller]

I know it. But it's like sections like north Mississippi and then Jackson is like the middle and then on the bottom is the coast. Those are like. That's three different atmospheres.

[Jamila]

For real.

[Carlos Miller]

It's like cuz the people who live on the coast, they really think they live on the beach.

[Jamila]

I mean, is it a beach environment? It's water though. It's water.

[Carlos Miller]

I guess you could say that. But the water is green and it's giving.

[Jamila]

Galveston. I was gonna say it's from Galveston.

[Carlos Miller]

It used to be nice in like the 80s.

[Jamila]

Okay.

[Carlos Miller]

And then I don't know what happened.

[Jamila]

Just let it go. So when did you move to Atlanta?

[Carlos Miller]

2005.

[Jamila]

That's now. That's a time to move to Atlanta, man. It was 2x tall tees. Oh, that's a time. Oh, I got some.

[Carlos Miller]

You can't do it like me.

[Jamila]

Dang.

[Carlos Miller]

Blockhead. All that.

[Jamila]

And how old were you?

[Carlos Miller]

22.

[Jamila]

Oh, you was bad. Oh man, you was next.

[Carlos Miller]

It was wide open.

[Jamila]

You was. Oh my God.

[Carlos Miller]

Wide open. I've seen Atlanta change so much.

[Jamila]

Oh, I bet. I've seen it change so much in the last 10 years. So I'm. I'm certain it's just been a whirlwind, man.

[Carlos Miller]

It's been. And then my dad used to live here, so I used to come here all the time.

[Jamila]

So this is always like. So you have like. You know about Greenbrier Mall?

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely. So when it was jumping, when Greenbrier was where you went to go find you something nice.

[Jamila]

Yes. I accidentally visited there on accident Accidentally Recently? No, because I was looking for a store. I was about to get on a flight back to Houston. I was looking for a store to just go pick some up at. And I googled it. Say Green Bar Mall. I made a whole Tik Tok. I said this mall is stuck in the 80s. Yeah, it still is. Like it's a time capsule. And I literally on Tik Tok was like, I know the used to be in here heavy. And the whole Atlanta was in my comments like exactly, exactly.

[Carlos Miller]

Green Brown Mall. But when I got here in 05, Greenbrier was.

[Jamila]

Yeah, they do concerts.

[Carlos Miller]

They have a whole history Every day it was. The parking lot was packed. I know that's always like a whole bunch of like hustling going on. Used to be out there selling turtles.

[Jamila]

That's what they be doing at the homecoming. They be doing that at homecoming tailgates selling turtles. That's so rand.

[Carlos Miller]

That's where you Used to go to get all the J's and all that.

[Jamila]

They got the Delta Sigma Theta joint in the bottom. Yeah, they definitely got here. They said it was a Magic Johnson movie theater or something.

[Carlos Miller]

It was, but it was very violent. Oh yeah, it was violent. And the one. Well, the Magic Johnson was in. It's behind Greenbrier. You know where that beauty supply store is?

[Jamila]

Yes. It's like I did go there.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, that big ass beauty supply store, the Magic Johnson. But it was real hood and it.

[Jamila]

Was like they used to go down.

[Carlos Miller]

They used to fight in the movies.

[Jamila]

They had the. What's the shoot in the mov. The P Deal. Oh Lord, the P Deal. There is a restaurant in there and it's called Picadilly. Picadilly. Thank you.

[Carlos Miller]

Somebody shot at the screen in the. At one of the movies. 1.

[Jamila]

Oh Lord, at the. Just sitting down watching that movie. How we get there?

[Carlos Miller]

I don't know.

[Jamila]

Oh, that's. That's when Morris Brown was really in his prime too, wasn't it? Before they got shut down that first time.

[Carlos Miller]

Just right through there.

[Jamila]

What a time. I always wish I was around that time that's giving very much prime time. Drum line.

[Carlos Miller]

Do you remember when they had got the water cut off at Morris Brown?

[Jamila]

I don't remember that. No.

[Carlos Miller]

At the end of it, it was.

[Jamila]

Like getting that water cut off is crazy.

[Carlos Miller]

They had a water bill that was. Is crazy. I got the water cold.

[Jamila]

But shout out to Morris Brown. They got. They got their creditation back, didn't they?

[Carlos Miller]

They.

[Jamila]

Did they back in.

[Carlos Miller]

They survived, man.

[Jamila]

I don't know how they did it, but they did it.

[Carlos Miller]

Pulled it off, period.

[Jamila]

Okay, well, being a comic, I know you've dealt with some people probably being offended at some jokes here and there and a little bit of backlash. Are you somebody that really cares about that? You're like, I don't. I don't care.

[Carlos Miller]

No, because I'm the type of person, it's like I don't just. I don't mess with anybody unprovoked. So the people who get offense, they don't have nothing to do with me. I don't even like to highlight them. When I have like a 90, I say a 98 success rate. Okay, so shout out to those people. So instead of those ones who get mad because you got to be a pretty up person to go to a comedy show and get mad and it happens. They get mad at a joke. Somebody trying to make you laugh and you angry like your spirit ain't right. There's A lot of people who don't need to be brought to comedy shows and one yeah I think a lot.

[Jamila]

Of people definitely try to be upset and offended a lot of.

[Carlos Miller]

But I'm saying like some ladies, they'd be dating these dudes. They'd be like real gangsters and killers. Don't bring them. They missed the whole act. We don't want them there. They sitting at you the whole time like on laugh bro. Why you here? Why you here?

[Jamila]

You just trying so hard to be tough.

[Carlos Miller]

Don't bring them. Bring your silliest friend, the one with the stupidest laugh.

[Jamila]

Bring them.

[Carlos Miller]

Don't bring your tough ass boyfriend because they're no fun.

[Jamila]

Yeah, we've definitely experienced a lot of backlash for our. I guess you could say takes opinions even though I feel. Oh yeah a lot. I feel like we be trying to be funny too like kind of what you talking about? So I don't know what's the one.

[Carlos Miller]

That like just to bring it back up. What's the one that really got em.

[Jamila]

Just to be messy.

[Carlos Miller]

Yes, the one that really got me.

[Jamila]

Well I'll say one of my biggest I guess scandals. I poked fun which is what I do. I just feel like I'm just here for a good kiki. Good laugh. I poked fun at the idea of being upset at someone calling you an auntie even though you're of auntie age and have a niece or nephew.

[Carlos Miller]

Black people don't like to be like aged.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

It's kind of offensive.

[Jamila]

Yeah, I guess so to them especially.

[Carlos Miller]

If they fighting, you know they still fighting to hold on.

[Jamila]

I now know that. Listen. But I just thought it was a good funny hehe. And I use myself as an example cause I'm getting a badge too. Mine was this most recent Beyonce concert thing with the concert outfits. Now when I said I didn't see no looks. Concert culture, especially Beyonce concert culture you're used to seeing like very extravagant like people make costumes. That first show wasn't. They weren't in costumes, they were in regular clothes. So I said what the hell going on? Where the costumes at? And they took offense to that cuz they thought I was saying they can't dress. And I the palace say fires had just happened. They said we don't have money. The fires just happened. I said well hold on now. No shade. What that fire got to do with that? Now wait.

[Carlos Miller]

You going to get them started again?

[Jamila]

I know, let me hush now. Wait. Y. I did not hit me to poke fun at the fires. I just, just didn't see a alien head. That's what y. Y' all had alien heads on next time and now you just in boots.

[Carlos Miller]

Damn.

[Jamila]

Yeah, they got. They did and they said you can't dress and I can't slip is a sock don't give a. Yeah, they be coming for us.

[Carlos Miller]

I saw that. I saw you on Tik Tok posting your throwback outfits.

[Jamila]

You know, I've always been able. I think the funniest part is people. If you're able to poke fun at yourself and laugh at the joke, then it's like, well, it's not really funny. It's just. It's cliche. It's like what they tell you about bullying. If you turn into joke now, it's not funny no more.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, it's.

[Jamila]

It's like not serious. Yeah, but I mean I know that it's like what you said with comedy, it's like. I mean I know that I'm just being funny and I know that I'm not trying to offend or trying to be like cause outrage. So it's like if you take it that way, you kind of just. That's just your mindset like there's nothing that I can do.

[Carlos Miller]

You would think that it would only happen once, right?

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Do you understand the same people who get upset and like media on the Internet, they come there every day looking.

[Jamila]

For shit to get mad. Oh, we know at this point, bro.

[Carlos Miller]

I would never. If I would never find some that I don't like and then have to search for this person who posting this. I don't like every day leaving comments.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[Carlos Miller]

Like you don't really.

[Jamila]

My favorite thing is when they under someone else, but they're like, I hate that I blocked it. Yeah, I'll be like that. Well, I can see you. No, you didn't like. What are we talking about? Oh God. Hey guys. Gosh. Yeah, it's. It's quite something. Imagine scrolling and then the next video you see, you just. You just. Hehe. Haha. I love TikTok. The next video. You ever seen this dumbass Jamila. I can't stand her. Wait. Hey. Yeah, I get like that.

[Carlos Miller]

I just. I don't even think that stuff is real at this point because when I see people like you don't like me, something's wrong with you.

[Jamila]

You have to really adopt that mindset though. You have to really. I think it's past having thick skin because you have to change your entire mental about how you're gonna approach public opinion.

[Carlos Miller]

You really just have to Ignore it.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Because you'll never see these people. They're not relevant and clearly they don't like you, so.

[Jamila]

And I can't make you like me.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't want you to. Because I know, like, there's nothing that somebody can 100 like. So when those people do show up, I'm like, it's way more people that do than don't. So I don't even. I was never even supposed to see this for real.

[Jamila]

And you didn't think I was going to see it. I just happened to see it.

[Carlos Miller]

Cuz those would be the people you don't want to interact with in real life anyway.

[Jamila]

Now that's a fact. You know what? I literally. Some crazy boy commented under one of our videos we were being funny. It was one of our videos with Lex Andrea, and he was talking about black women. And this is why I hate black women. And y' all are. Oh, my gosh. I saw that. I was like, I went on his page. It was the most bummest nigga I ever seen in my life. I. I couldn't even make this shit up. I mean, like, no shade to public transit took it my entire life. I just got my license at 25, was at the bus stop in a dirty wife beater, dirty underwear. It was just like exactly what you think it was. So I was like, it's not even any reason to respond to you, baby.

[Carlos Miller]

I see why you feel.

[Jamila]

Yeah, I see why you feeling away.

[Carlos Miller]

Experience the greatness of the other side. You should be over there being angry.

[Jamila]

You know, that makes sense. That's the only enjoyment and excitement from outside the club. And this was my thing.

[Carlos Miller]

That's the club hating any other day.

[Jamila]

They say I'm not black. I said, oh, I get to be a black black today. That's great.

[Carlos Miller]

Thank you. Who can tell you that, though?

[Jamila]

You said what?

[Carlos Miller]

Who can tell you that?

[Jamila]

You. When I tell you. They think they got that. They said. They said Lex and Dre and light skin.

[Carlos Miller]

For real. For real, man. These new.

[Jamila]

I'm telling you, they said, I got the power of the census on me. You is not black.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, you talking about for the podcast thing. The podcast used to be all these high yellow skin. I saw that on Twitter. They were like, everybody on here, light skin. I'm like, where?

[Jamila]

I said, well, let me shut my.

[Carlos Miller]

Light skin ass up.

[Jamila]

I am high yellow. Sorry. I can't argue that. I'll let Dre and Lex defend themselves because child, damn. But I didn't even get the light skin. They Said, and that bitch is white. I said, I got biracial.

[Carlos Miller]

You white?

[Jamila]

I'm white, mind you. You want to hear the. It's not the funniest part, but the craziest part is my grandmother recently passed away. I was at her funeral the whole day. It popped off. It was my tweet. So I'm the one who tweeted it. And mine was the tweet that was getting quoted. So I wasn't on the Internet that day. So I came back the next day and said, I'm white. Wow. And obviously, like, we're used to being in, like, I guess, controversy. It's not even anything. Jimmy was sent, like, no one was really sending it to me. So I didn't know it was going on. It wasn't until I opened my Twitter and I was like, what the fuck? So I started seeing all of our. I didn't even know it had controversy until I saw Mel Mitchell say the comments under this is crazy. And I was like, oh, wait, I thought we was doing good. I just. Oh, my God, we're just having fun. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. You know, I just want to see.

[Carlos Miller]

The families of people who say like that. Because we got every color black person and man, we got some black ass.

[Jamila]

That's why I said, why y' all.

[Carlos Miller]

Acting like we got some dark browns and some copper colored? I just, I don't know.

[Jamila]

Apparently being light skinned is something new. Yeah, light skinned black is new, apparently. I don't know. We have to be. Biracials have hijacked my. Now I can't exist.

[Carlos Miller]

When they find my white auntie Facebook page, they gonna probably get me out of here because I had to get on her ass.

[Jamila]

Don't tell these people.

[Carlos Miller]

She all up under my post talking about why.

[Jamila]

Come on, nephew.

[Carlos Miller]

All last minute, I was like, auntie, hey, get this shit off of here.

[Jamila]

Keep it, please, because they already think I'm Spanish.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, all the nationality, Literally. Damn.

[Jamila]

So you are known for being in the game a long time. You've done Hell Date, which, by the way, which is such a thrill bag. Yes. I used to watch a lot of bad shows on mtv. Hell Day when they would have the little people come out as the devil. That's so bad, so offensive in today. We did some real bullshit, ridiculous things, but wow. Iconic. Truly tv. You was on your mama. Another favorite. Yeah, literally. We used to go to school and like imitate them jokes.

[Carlos Miller]

Really?

[Jamila]

Yes. All these shows I loved. You have Bill Bellamy's got jokes, the Monique Show, Comic view. Just to Name a few. So how have you managed to stay relevant? Like as mediums and platforms have changed.

[Carlos Miller]

You just got to get on them actually. And I guess I try to keep my humor so specific that if you even heard somebody else trying to do it, that you would know where it came from. I'd always try to put my spin on whatever it is that's funny to me. Sometimes I be like, I'll think of some shit and it'll just be already the way that I want it. And then sometimes I have to just go on stage and just keep working on it and working on it until I get it how I want it. But to stay relevant on these new platforms, the first step is to get on there and to see what, what drives the platforms and how to engage with different audiences and stuff. Because we have shows where it be, it be the mamas, the 35 40s and up. And then I might have to go the next day and perform for 18, 19, 20. So that's part of the work of being an entertainer is having something for both audiences.

[Jamila]

So, yeah, I mean, you've maintained it pretty well. And I think at this point, I mean. Well, yes, at this point I would say you're probably one of those people that people are gonna start now naming as their influences. Cause I think when we think about the comedians now, they're like Redd Fox, Richard Pryor, you know, Eddie Murphy, Eddie Murphy, all the greats. I think that you're one of those people for our generation that people are gonna be listing because you've been around for so long and, and now you're like stamped.

[Carlos Miller]

But see, the one thing that I'm worried about as far as on the entertainment side is like the new generation, like the younger, the, you know, the 20 to 25 year old comedian, like that group of adults, they don't really go back and research the shit like so they'll be like, they'll just go name the shit that they remember. Yeah, when they were 14, 15 years old. I don't want them to miss the history part of that because I did grow up on all of the deaf comedy jams and the comic view and all of that. The Showtime at the Apollo. So just going to be able to do that stuff, it's amazing to me and I would hate to be at the Apollo and not know the significance of it or, you know what I mean, go on the Steve Harvey morning show and not know that this one of the original kings of comedy and stuff like that. But they ain't gonna Give a damn about that.

[Jamila]

You know, the kids don't do their homework work.

[Carlos Miller]

Man. There kids right now never heard, like a whole Tupac album. And they don't give a damn to know who.

[Jamila]

And they don't care.

[Carlos Miller]

They like, where can you imagine put.

[Jamila]

On some young boy, right?

[Carlos Miller]

But think all the good stuff you would have missed if, like, stuff you went back to, songs you probably hated as a kid and now you like, I can't clean my house up without this Shirley Murdoch plan. You know, the stuff you was like, I don't want to hit it now. It's part of you. Your old school vibe.

[Jamila]

It's important. I think that makes you more well rounded. But you can always tell the difference for people who really studied. And it's like, you know that your influences. I know you're a student of your craft. I can always tell because. And that's across all mediums. It's not even just comedy. That's with music and film, too. It's like, you care about this as an art form and as a craft. And so you're gonna do your research and go back and be like, yes.

[Carlos Miller]

But see, one thing about good shit, it don't matter how old it is still funny.

[Jamila]

Yeah. Because you could put. You could put on some Richard Pryor today.

[Carlos Miller]

Today.

[Jamila]

Mom's Mabley today. I mean, that's Madea's og. So it. Things cycle out. But I think that it is important to look at, like, the history, especially as black Americans, you know, looking back on who paved the way for you to be able to do what you're doing now. Because it wasn't always this easy for us to just get on the Internet and just.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, everybody did their part, too. Not only just on the entertainment side. Cause you remember, like, black entertainers used to have to be way more than just entertaining. You had to juggle swords, play the piano, tap dance. You remember when every nigga had to tap dance?

[Jamila]

And I mean sing. I could tap dance.

[Carlos Miller]

But Earth the kid. Look at Earth the kid. She had to speak French and sing in different languages and go to different countries. Like black. They always had to get the most out of black.

[Jamila]

And that's why I'mma put my baby in dance and keyboard and all these things. We're going to go back to our roots.

[Carlos Miller]

We do.

[Jamila]

You're going to know all the things.

[Carlos Miller]

That's right.

[Jamila]

Yes. How do you feel? Because this is a little bit of a controversial conversation in the comedy space. How do you feel about a lot of quote, unquote, Internet comedians not hitting the stage.

[Carlos Miller]

They're not supposed to. Oh, they're Internet comedians. They're not standup comedians, they're Internet comedians. The things that they can do as Internet comedians, stand up comedians can't do. So if you're an Internet comedian, be an Internet comedian. Why go be a stand up comedian?

[Jamila]

And it's okay to have that difference between the two, right? Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

There's nothing wrong with that. But that's why their fail rate is so high. Because they let people talk them into doing something they don't even do.

[Jamila]

Yeah. Cause stand up is a different beast. You have to be. It's a whole different beast that is not just, I'm funny, but I do believe you have to hone that crap. Like, you have to get good with an actual audience, engage people. Like, it's a lot of psychology that goes in stand up too.

[Carlos Miller]

It is. And think about it. It's a lot of stuff you can say in 15 minutes. That's a lot of talking.

[Jamila]

It's a lot of talking.

[Carlos Miller]

And to be a comedian, you need a whole hour set to really make.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

And it's not just about jokes. You gotta have a good show.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Like, you could tell great jokes, but who gonna like, are you good enough to just stand there and tell good jokes? Are the jokes that good? Or you better use this whole stage and give these people a show. It's always so many different elements to that. That can get tricky. But why would you let somebody talk you into something you don't even do? I don't know why the Internet comedians haven't picked up on this. If I was, if it was me and they booked me to do a stand up joint. I'm coming out and I'm about to put this whole crowd in my skit. Hey, y' all say this at this point. This y' all line. Okay? Come on, y'. All. Hey, it's your boy, Chicken Willie.

[Jamila]

Chicken. Chicken.

[Carlos Miller]

I do my little catchphrase, sell my T shirts, get the hell up out of there. But to go on stage and just die and bomb and struggle and be like, what y' all eat today? Why would you do that? Why would you put yourself in that box so you can use that time to do what you do. Then when you post it online, everybody gonna watch it because they already love you and be like, I'm in Nelson. Me and my boy Chicken Willie went crazy.

[Jamila]

Yeah. I mean, that's what makes sense.

[Carlos Miller]

Because I don't know if that's somebody name. If you a comedian Your name Chicken Willie. I'm not talking about you, player, because I don't want no smoke Chicken Willie gonna get on the Internet. Keep my name out your mouth.

[Jamila]

I feel like Drew Ski has done a good job of that. Like, blending his ability to do, like, Internet skit comedy with making it a live version of that. Drewski, I feel like he's done a really good job of like translating it live and like, the thing is his own. Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Like, he's actually crafting a show.

[Jamila]

Yeah. And I can tell because it's like, it's still authentic to him. It's like, so unique. It's a very specific type of comedy that he does and, like, it's just been hitting off and I'm like, watching his trajectory has been very inspiring. For sure. I do.

[Carlos Miller]

But honestly, I don't want him to be a stand up comedian.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Because he's, he's not just a stand up comedian at this point. He's already a huge Internet rock star. He's a comedic actor.

[Jamila]

Because the thing is, we allow comedic actors to be different from standard comedians. So the Internet comedian should have the same thing going. Like, you can, you can do a skit that's, that's relevant and it's, it's real. And I've seen Juicy go on stream. It's not a matter of him not being funny in real time. Like, the nigga's funny, right? Like, but you don't have to go do stand up. Like, that doesn't have to be your shit.

[Carlos Miller]

You know who we need to get with like that. And he need to link with Anthony Anderson.

[Jamila]

You, right? You owning something, cuz. Anthony gonna put a show together like a TV show.

[Carlos Miller]

But see, he's such a good comedic actor, but nobody would ever be like, he's a comedian.

[Jamila]

Yeah, that's true.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

Has he even done. Has he done stand up before? Yeah, back in the day. Yeah, he.

[Carlos Miller]

He still hosts comedy shows now when he, you know, in between stuff.

[Jamila]

I think he need to get with Entertainer.

[Carlos Miller]

He need to get what said too.

[Jamila]

Yeah. The Entertainer is really. He's a great comedic actor. Like, everything that he's ever been in his character's kid was my growing up.

[Carlos Miller]

Drew got that Martin vibe where it's like, yes, whatever you see him doing, you already know it's going to be of a certain quality. Shout out to Drew.

[Jamila]

Shout out to Drew. Yes. I have a messy question. What? I'm about to get a little messy for this one.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, man.

[Jamila]

Now, Miss Bernice King then told y' all to stop using that AI on her daddy. All right, now why you posted that picture?

[Carlos Miller]

Can I say something? She is not wrong, but I just want to plead my innocence one good time. I didn't make the picture. I just retweeted it. Cause I had somebody made it. And it was getting a lot of traction. It was at like 50,000 views. And I was like, please don't let that lady see that. And they thought that I was.

[Jamila]

So you were really.

[Carlos Miller]

Somebody else posted it?

[Jamila]

Yeah. Crying.

[Carlos Miller]

It didn't work that way.

[Jamila]

It. No. Well, no.

[Carlos Miller]

You think I would disrespect Martin Luther King?

[Jamila]

Like, for real?

[Carlos Miller]

Y' all really believe that I wouldn't disrespect Bernie's King Shout out Bern. They got the whole AI Martin Luther King on there with one. I want the same backlash. I want the same backlash for everybody else. He had on ice with a grill and he was like, I'm stunning on Malcolm. I want them to be just as upset at them. I know. You seen Martin Luther King?

[Jamila]

No. It's been getting.

[Carlos Miller]

He was in a battle rap.

[Jamila]

It's getting like. It's actually getting very scary. I don't ever need to see him talking to me like that in color like that. Don't have Martin talking to me like that with grills.

[Carlos Miller]

Right.

[Jamila]

He was never supposed to have no damn grill.

[Carlos Miller]

No way that they can make. I'm sorry. I got caught in the middle. Excuse me.

[Jamila]

The way they can make the face.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm sorry. I In the middle.

[Jamila]

Okay. We need to get. Let's be serious. Okay. Give your apology.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm sorry to the whole King family. I'm sorry to all of y'. All. It was. It was not intentional. It was just. I saw something happening and I was like, don't. It ain't me. I was trying to remove myself and I just threw myself in there. And I got kicked out the black community. Something I never thought could happen.

[Jamila]

Welcome to the club. We're welcoming you back. Welcome back, Carlos.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't know if they going to let you, cuz you light skinned. It's going.

[Jamila]

I don't even know. But you just got. You got to be Mexican, so.

[Carlos Miller]

Okay. But like, I didn't know I wasn't trying to be in the mix.

[Jamila]

That sound good? So I have another messy question.

[Carlos Miller]

Go ahead.

[Jamila]

Why you keep getting fired?

[Carlos Miller]

I'm not a good employee. I'm. I'm.

[Jamila]

I love the honesty.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm a natural boss. Oh. And then I. I use logic. I'm not somebody you could Just tell what to do so you don't be to do. I'm not. No. I'm. I'm very. I'm not a subordinate type.

[Jamila]

You ever got fired, Jamila? Yes. Yeah. Where'd you get fired?

[Carlos Miller]

Did you deserve it?

[Jamila]

Probably a little bit. Not always, actually. So I got fired from Walmart because I. Well, I kind of quit. I just stopped going. Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

No call notion.

[Jamila]

Yeah. You know, I did get fired from Avis, though, actually. I was supposed to do a law. So I got fired due to pregnancy discrimination.

[Carlos Miller]

Wow.

[Jamila]

Very sick individuals. I got fired from Target.

[Carlos Miller]

Well, I get fired a lot of times because the people who's supposed to be, like, in charge, they not. They don't be smart.

[Jamila]

That's why I got fired from Target.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm not the type of person that's gonna listen to somebody who's doing.

[Jamila]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Carlos Miller]

How you gonna be my manager and I trained you when they. When they brought you on. They asked me to show you. You think you about to tell me what to do? That earned me special privileges right there.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Plus I feel like once I got some seniority in the job, you can't really tell me what time to be there. For real.

[Jamila]

That's real black of you.

[Carlos Miller]

Like. Cause I'm.

[Jamila]

I'm so black when you finna take your lunch.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Cause I'm so black when the days I don't get to take a lunch, guess what that means.

[Jamila]

You get a double lunch tomorrow.

[Carlos Miller]

That mean I leave at 4. I took a whole. I worked through lunch. I could have took the lunch from.

[Jamila]

We gonna make up this time some kind of way.

[Carlos Miller]

But since we was jammed, I'm leaving at 4. I gave y' all an hour. Yeah, come on, man. And every minute that I stay over helping y', all, like, I supposedly got off at 5, and I stayed at 5. 45 because Jamila didn't show up. Yeah, I'm not. I'm 40. That gave me plus 45 for the next time. So when I'm supposed to be there at 10, I'm showing up at, like, right at 11. This me. I'm reliable. I showed y' all that I'm good.

[Jamila]

This is nigga math.

[Carlos Miller]

Nigga math. Anytime you ask me to do something that requires me to leave the job, like, hey, can you run to the other store and get some bread? Guess how long that's gonna take?

[Jamila]

An hour and a half. Come on.

[Carlos Miller]

Probably two.

[Jamila]

I was gonna say I'm make some stuff. You gonna stretch it? I'mma stretch. We gonna Stretch it. Don't ask me to leave this per. Not gonna be bad.

[Carlos Miller]

Come on, man. I'm maxing out the whole job.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Yes. I'm eating for free. I made this.

[Jamila]

I was not really the best employee, especially when I was working at Avis. But this didn't have anything to do with why I was fired. I never got caught for this. I would, like, lock the store up, and then I would put, like, a We'll be back sign, and I would just, like, go to bed and the.

[Carlos Miller]

Back and my whole. I don't steal your money. I don't steal money.

[Jamila]

I. I don't want your money.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't steal money.

[Jamila]

I'm steal some time, though.

[Carlos Miller]

I steal no money.

[Jamila]

Ain't never steal no money.

[Carlos Miller]

If we eat. If we selling food, I'm eating.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Like, I'm not.

[Jamila]

I should have been able.

[Carlos Miller]

If I'm back here cooking, I need to know what I'm selling. That's. It's just like, a chef thing.

[Jamila]

I just want to taste it.

[Carlos Miller]

I can't have a chicken sandwich.

[Jamila]

Yeah, no. I'm going to eat.

[Carlos Miller]

Come on, man. I need to know how to make it so when people order it, I can make it. Good.

[Jamila]

When I've worked establishments with food, I've been eating all that. Yeah. I hope y' all know this is getting eight. Yes. When I worked at my friend's Jamaican restaurant, shout out to Juicy Jerk. Oh. I used to put me a rib to the side every time I cut it up.

[Carlos Miller]

Real, real talk. I really thought me and my partners at Burger King invented the chicken tender sandwich.

[Jamila]

Really? Is that right?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, cuz we used to make them all the time. Next thing you know, we come in one summer. Guess what we selling?

[Jamila]

Chicken tennis sandwich.

[Carlos Miller]

This what we've been eating in the break room there. Three chicken tenders on the little.

[Jamila]

And you know what Burger King is good for? Letting employees eat. My cousin works at Burger King and will bring home food all the time.

[Carlos Miller]

When I was in high school, that was my spot. Learn how to make the milkshakes and keep them thick.

[Jamila]

And what was the secret?

[Carlos Miller]

You got to spin it out the cup. You don't turn it off. You just kind of. Like when you spin it, you just got to kind of let that go.

[Jamila]

Let it droop in.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Then you dip it. You don't overspin it. You just kind of spin it out the cup.

[Jamila]

Ice cream. It can't be like, I brought that.

[Carlos Miller]

We brought that way back.

[Jamila]

Okay. Period. So with wilding out.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Got fired from There.

[Jamila]

I know. And it's like, well, how did that happen? Like, Because I don't. Nick Cannon wasn't a part of that firing, was he? Or was he?

[Carlos Miller]

I don't know. I feel like it's his show. Like, they had to tell him right before it happened. He had to know, well, what you.

[Jamila]

Was doing over there at. At the Wild and Out, that was wilding out for a long time. And wilding out is so already crazy. So what could you have done that got you up out of there? I don't know. They didn't.

[Carlos Miller]

It was nothing that I did, though. It was just one of them things. They was just like they thought they thought they were. But then it's like, bro, it's me. Who else you going to get, Carlos? You got to go get 10 more to get just 1% of the. On some arrogant. But then the people saw. They like, what? Ain't no Carlos. This show. Hey, bring my boy back. Cuz they think it's a kid show, but it's only old black people said that. They. The people who run the network, they really think.

[Jamila]

You know what? On the awesome. We were talking about this earlier when we were doing like, our little research. MTV has had to, like, shut down five stations recently. And I was telling Jamila, I was reading the tweets and it was like, because they keep showing ridiculousness. Like, we want to watch that all damn day. And when we talk about all the fun shows that we used to watch growing up, you would think that, like, you're right. They're kids shows. Because it is kids watching Hell Day, Yamama, like all this stuff, you would.

[Carlos Miller]

Think if we was watching True Life. I'm a Drew. A drug addict. I'm a sex addict.

[Jamila]

No, you seen that one. Oh, no. I'm a porn Addict was one of the best ones.

[Carlos Miller]

Exactly. And the one where people who were fuzzies were like, they used to wear.

[Jamila]

Yeah, Life. I have Tourette's.

[Carlos Miller]

Yes.

[Jamila]

Oh, my God. I love all them shows. I laughed at every last. I watched every reality show. I love New York. Flavor of Love. Real Chance at Love. Rest in Peace.

[Carlos Miller]

Road Rules. Real World showed us what was coming.

[Jamila]

Like, why not those type of shows?

[Carlos Miller]

You remember that season of Road was where they had to like, drive across America and work them jobs, and that was one of the best ones.

[Jamila]

No, I didn't watch that. Yeah, we had so much good. I remember when loving hip hop came out. Well, that's VH1. That's the same network, same Viacom. I did like, ridiculousness. At first, I just didn't want to see it all day. It's like being a Baby Boy. Like, stop playing Baby Boy. And bet hurt us. They stopped playing Baby Boy, but now.

[Carlos Miller]

Look, we don't have nothing. I much rather watch Baby Boy every weekend.

[Jamila]

You have to have bet. I was gonna say they're moving towards streaming, which it's one of those things where it's like, I get it, but at the same time, we're losing. We're losing recipes. The streaming has really changed the entertainment industry, film and television, for the better in some ways and for the worse in others.

[Carlos Miller]

Well, streaming killed TV because it gave us the. The freedom to watch what we wanted to watch when we wanted to watch it, so we don't have to sit there and watch 388 episodes of Ridiculousness.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

So that's the number one thing, though. It's like if they were actually listening to the people who paying for this. But they got to go by, you know, the money.

[Jamila]

So it's always the money. So speaking of cable and streaming, you were on College Hill.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely got a man on there.

[Jamila]

You did. That's what we about to do.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, my anger.

[Jamila]

Listen, we. Well, we wanted to ask. That's what we're here for. And you were the odd man out on the homelessness bill, and everyone came for you. But Jamil and I watched it back, and we actually. We didn't disagree. We kind of ate that up. So sometimes. How did that feel in that moment with everyone coming at you like, yo, you suck. Cause you didn't have to tell Swaggy P. You ain't. He ain't give his NBA money away.

[Carlos Miller]

He didn't. He made a lot of bread.

[Jamila]

He did.

[Carlos Miller]

I could. He. He really bought a Ferrari and just left it at the garage. At the Lakers thing, he just threw the money away like a damn near million dollar car. But that ain't have shit to do with it. Yeah, but now if you look at what's going on, the whole government shut down.

[Jamila]

Right.

[Carlos Miller]

They said they about to run out of food stamp money in two weeks.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

How. How convenient is that? If they wanted to, they would. And for that teacher to turn around and say, this is your problem. No, it ain't.

[Jamila]

He said, no, it's not.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm a black man, like, from Mississippi.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

Really started at the very bottom. So for people to sit there and be like, oh, I'm like, no, you get your ass up and do something Tik tok.

[Jamila]

Where it was like, I don't give a. About homeless people. I don't give a. And it was like.

[Carlos Miller]

I didn't say that, though.

[Jamila]

I know, but it was like a tick tock.

[Carlos Miller]

I saw all of that. I saw all of that.

[Jamila]

You didn't have to do that. And I think the way it's. It's funny because the way it was edited, like, the beginning of it was like, I don't care about that. It's not my issue. And then it's like, as it continue. And you guys just started contact, it was like, well, let's not boo y'.

[Carlos Miller]

All, because if you watch the clip, I never said them people. I never said leave them kids. I never said that. Yeah, none of that.

[Jamila]

You said the same thing. If they wanted to, they would.

[Carlos Miller]

In the clip, I said that the people who run this, they know exactly where every dollar goes. They give away money to everybody else.

[Jamila]

They sure do.

[Carlos Miller]

They don't want to fix. They won't fix the potholes.

[Jamila]

Hello. Just put a metal plate on it. We're talking to you. You were on my old bucket. Like I said, I got my license at 25. I bought a bucket I had. I used to drive a 2009 Mitsubishi Galant. I hit a hot pothole so hard, my. My side mirror popped. It literally broke pothole coming out of Walmart.

[Carlos Miller]

That's terrible.

[Jamila]

Very ghetto.

[Carlos Miller]

I hit one in Atlanta and it ripped the whole tire off the rim. And the city said, there's no way that that could have happened.

[Jamila]

And it's like, no, there'd be craters. What are you talking about? Like, deep holes. It don't make no sense. Yeah, the government is one of them things where it's like, they have all the power to make this country specifically a utopia. And they're like, no.

[Carlos Miller]

Right. It's so not for all of you. Like, there is nothing that these people who run this place agree on. They can't even agree that people who live in the country, us homeless or not. That if you get sick, you should be able to go get sick. Some help without ruining your life so you don't end up homeless. That's what's up about America. Everybody is really like, three bad situations getting rolled from being up.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[Carlos Miller]

The majority of that I'm speaking from, like, you gonna see. We barely got thousands if you really think about this shit. Yeah, but yeah, man, I don't. I don't have no hate in my heart.

[Jamila]

Carlos does not hate homelessness. People. I Don't you have to say another apology.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm sorry. Homeless People, if you find some way to watch this or hear about it. I'm sorry I never. Cuz now they hit. They try to flood me with the guilt and be like well you don't know they situation, blah blah blah. Going through this. I'm like look at this baby. On the street, however it happened, like they supposed to call me before. Hey Lo. This my final stroke. Come on bro. Come on. I got you. Like damn. How you become my fault?

[Jamila]

Phones. It's literally your fault. It's all Carlos fault, y'. All. I'm so sorry.

[Carlos Miller]

They going to find a way to blame this on me. So now every time I see something and I'd be like see? Told you they like $20 billion sent to.

[Jamila]

You have to make it a point, point it out.

[Carlos Miller]

There nothing you. Hey, they could have fixed this.

[Jamila]

I'm trying to tell you.

[Carlos Miller]

They got more houses than homeless people. But they won't give them.

[Jamila]

They will have a house sitting there vacant for years and years and years, years. Just cuz. Cuz they ain't got the right money for it.

[Carlos Miller]

Amen.

[Jamila]

And refuse to let these people live. They got buildings with just vacancy.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

And they got people on that same street and they said it's your fault.

[Carlos Miller]

We got states that don't nobody really even live in. They can just build a big ass facility and then put them some rooms over there, jobs over there on the other side. And then they Utah they could just like. They could just like use a little moving electric floor and bring them jello.

[Jamila]

Y' all make in middle America. We could be using the land so much space. We do not all have to be on 85. Literally. There's no reason that the traffic should be this bad. We've got to start spreading. Atlanta traffic is really. Houston traffic is really bad too. But Atlanta's traffic is horrible.

[Carlos Miller]

Right. I do believe we should be able to like if I like if we gonna have. We're gonna talk about the problem, we should find some solutions. But yes, like we should have like a special branch of the military just for homeless people. Like before we pop the wall off, we'll send them over there and let them just chunky your up. Like just have shit everywhere. They just have tents all downtown and then the pop off and you ain't even know they was in the military type. Like we just sent them over there to occupy your shit, run your economy all the way to the ground. You use all your free health care, eat your fruits, get all your women pregnant.

[Jamila]

Oh my God.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm just saying they just. They. The first phase of the war. Send them in first. They don't need nothing. Give them, like, a outfit, some cigarettes.

[Jamila]

They don't need nothing. Mind you, this is the same man who was trying to mediate between Santana and Blac Chyna. Cause that scene also sent me with the door knocking. And you was like, wait, wait, y', all, we not finna do this. Okay? But I'm not the only one who has. He want me to give him Blac Chyna. I said, oh, my God, Carlos, you just trying to. You just started some shit.

[Carlos Miller]

I. I'm always. I care too much.

[Jamila]

So apologize to Santana is like, there.

[Carlos Miller]

What? I'm not doing that.

[Jamila]

See, I feel like there is a theme going on.

[Carlos Miller]

What is it?

[Jamila]

You a starter.

[Carlos Miller]

How you. You said. Even you went back and was like, all right. It wasn't. I just think that maybe I'm too far ahead.

[Jamila]

It was your delivery, perhaps. You.

[Carlos Miller]

Delivery.

[Jamila]

I think the way you started off strong when you said, that ain't my problem, but.

[Carlos Miller]

It ain't.

[Jamila]

But you have to. But you know the end part that you. You end with, that's what you gotta lead with. Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

So I should have been like. I'm sorry.

[Jamila]

No, no, no, no, no. You should have been like, well, the billionaires, if they wanted to fix it, they could, instead of starting.

[Carlos Miller]

Well, first of all, he's the one who said he knows millionaires and billionaires. He should have told him. Why is he trying to. So clearly, he's the problem. He's the one going around pushing this issue on people that it don't have shit to do with.

[Jamila]

Valid. That is a valid point. Valid point. Valid point. Okay, let's shift gears a little bit. You were on Shannon Sharpe's show. I don't know if Shay. Shay got a shirt on. Okay, Shay Shay. Cause you know you be making some mistakes, child. But anyway, shout out to Michelle. So you said that you say no to a lot of things, and, well, we selfishly want to know, why did you say yes to coming on Unhinged tomorrow?

[Carlos Miller]

Cause I'm unhinged. Yeah.

[Jamila]

Valid.

[Carlos Miller]

I do. Sometimes. You. It's dope to go on other people's shows, though, like podcasts. You just talk about stuff. Stuff that you would never think to talk about.

[Jamila]

Very true. Yeah, very true. Are you enjoying yourself?

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely. See y'.

[Jamila]

All.

[Carlos Miller]

We dispelling rumors.

[Jamila]

We're clearing up rumors. You apologizing?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, because people be getting me twisted all the time. You ain't never had nobody just get you.

[Jamila]

Oh, they get on every two. That's a different beast. What is it Facebook is. Is a certain genre of people that they live on Facebook. It's Facebook blacks is what I.

[Carlos Miller]

You know, how I like, how I identify Facebook or what I like, related to. You know that auntie, like, she means well, but she fuck up everything you tell her.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[Carlos Miller]

And then you. Because, like, she'll run two things together and make her whole room, girl. You know, they say Allen Iverson is the one making up all this stuff on the computer that ain't got.

[Jamila]

Yeah. Yes. That's exactly Facebook. That's literally Facebook.

[Carlos Miller]

And, you know, they say she pregnant. That's how I look at.

[Jamila]

That's exactly how it is.

[Carlos Miller]

It's like, never argue with them people.

[Jamila]

You can't. You literally can. It's like, oh, y' all are too far gone.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

Because then they really be believing the AI images too, over there.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely.

[Jamila]

That's how I knew Glorillo was really about that life. Because she loved Facebook.

[Carlos Miller]

She left.

[Jamila]

No, she loved. She loves Facebook. She's a. She's active on. Yeah. It's a certain level of hood. Yeah. To be really live on Facebook. Facebook. Because my. My real hood family members. My uncle is currently right now in somebody comments cussing them out on Facebook. And it has nothing to do with what they talking about.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Hell yeah. It's part of my entertainment family. Been. They know me my whole life. Still spell my name wrong. Hey, Carlo. C, A, R, L, O.

[Jamila]

It could be the auto. It's right there. It could be the autocorrect.

[Carlos Miller]

They typed this out.

[Jamila]

Facebook being getting to me lately because my family's been using a lot of that AI.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

Like I said, my grandmother just died, and they put her flying off into the abyss. Like, she turned around.

[Carlos Miller]

Yes.

[Jamila]

I said, what the. I do have to see it. Unfortunately, they did that when they got them wings. They get flying off. I die every time. Like, please. You know what? If that happened to of me, I give y' all permission to do it. Give me the wings. Let me fly.

[Carlos Miller]

I feel like I ain't really did. If I don't.

[Jamila]

If they don't put you.

[Carlos Miller]

Whenever my time come, do me a favor. Put me on that shirt.

[Jamila]

Yeah. Me, Tupac, Biggie, you want to be in the clouds?

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[Carlos Miller]

I want that one.

[Jamila]

I want all the nigga things.

[Carlos Miller]

My back turn and I'm walking in the gates of heaven with the wings.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[Carlos Miller]

Shirt off. With the jeans and the J's on. Come on, man.

[Jamila]

I want the full Treatment. I always say. We said this on a few episodes back. I always said that for my funeral. I kind of wanted to be present. Sit me up, prop me up in pews with everybody else, stuff me taxidermy style.

[Carlos Miller]

Like whenever my time come. Don't hold nothing back.

[Jamila]

Yes, get messy as hell as possible because I would love that. Start a fight, all this shit.

[Carlos Miller]

Break all that out.

[Jamila]

Make sure up, I wouldn't even care.

[Carlos Miller]

Like I don't know what y' all crying for, only come see him when exactly, all that.

[Jamila]

Every last fight. I want good food and good music. I want people starting rumors. I want people going through my phone and exposing the. That I was talking like, yes, the Internet told me my family was ghetto. Cuz we had her on the lanyard. And the comment that I didn't block him because I actually did laugh. Now apparently lanyards might be regional to California. It's like I will say I'd never seen that until you posted that someone.

[Carlos Miller]

They wear them for a long time too.

[Jamila]

Yeah, no, the thing is, it's so you can hang it up like it's so you could still use it. Like it's like an obituary. But you put the obituary away. The lanyard can be on display. Anyway, somebody got on the video and said, got your grandmother on the lanyard like a gang member.

[Carlos Miller]

I said, come on man.

[Jamila]

Hey, shout out to lollipop, bring me. She was 98. She wasn't a gang member.

[Carlos Miller]

That's your grandma name, Lollipop. She from the street. From the street. They know her very street lady. Yeah. Make sure bake the spaghetti at my.

[Jamila]

Listen, we had all type of. We had the fried chicken, we had. We had a contingency of this. How ghetto was. There was food that wasn't good and was put off to the side. And they brought out the real food.

[Carlos Miller]

That'S usually at the far end of the table.

[Jamila]

For the. For that real family. The real family get the good stuff. Let me baby, let me bring that cake.

[Carlos Miller]

You ever be at a function like that and you have to ask your family what they may. Black.

[Jamila]

Yeah. I said, why are we so black? My cousin was guarding the obituaries like cuz you can't. You ain't. We got.

[Carlos Miller]

The family gets on exactly.

[Jamila]

You gotta wait. We gotta wait. My aunt tried to get into the casket.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely.

[Jamila]

You, you. You need one. You need someone who's gonna cry out. And I'm the cry outer, you know. My brothers and cousins, honorable paw bearers. Looked Great. Disappeared for 90 minutes.

[Carlos Miller]

Know what they had to do, you.

[Jamila]

Know what they had. And they disappeared at the time that it was. It was not even inconspicuous. You disappeared right after we got back from the cemetery, right before y' all went to go get your food. Ah, yes, absolutely.

[Carlos Miller]

That's the best time to go.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[Carlos Miller]

Best time to bond with the family.

[Jamila]

Right. Funerals is honestly probably the blackest we are because it's like we're. We're stripped down to our most raw, most vulnerable. And that is the blackest time I've ever seen, man. The funerals that I've been to with my family, it gets wicked. We had someone at my uncle Pokey's funeral. Uncle Pokey was a crackhead for many.

[Carlos Miller]

Years, so there was some good stories at that funeral. I remember one time, Pokey came through there. He had stole all the light bulbs out the project.

[Jamila]

The way nobody could get up there and say, I know Pokey are heavy. Everybody said, you know Pokey.

[Carlos Miller]

Pokey was Pokey.

[Jamila]

Pokey was Pokey.

[Carlos Miller]

Hey, he was Pokey, wasn't he?

[Jamila]

Somebody got up there. Ms. Candy, we still don't know who. Ms. Candy, she said, oh, Pokey. We said, who the hell is this lady? I don't know if Pokey was her pimp or her daddy to this day, but she had her story and she was weeping for Pokey. And I said, that's my uncle Pokey, y'. All. That's. You're right. That's as black as we can go with the fume.

[Carlos Miller]

I think we get pretty black when somebody have a baby too. Oh, you ever had like a close family member have a baby and then like, you spend that shift and you seeing everybody come through there, like, yeah, my cousin really Uncle Po show up. That's him, ain't it? Yeah, that's him.

[Jamila]

Uhhuh. Oh, look like got that.

[Carlos Miller]

Hey, that boy got some feet on him too then.

[Jamila]

That's. Look at that ear. She ain't got no color. Look at her. Look at that ear. She gonna be black just like her daddy.

[Carlos Miller]

Let me see that baby.

[Jamila]

Plus there's a perm. We get so black. And it's funny because certain older black people cannot stand when the younger black people don't do the same things that they did. Oh, we ain't never did none of that. Let's get that baby some cereal in that bottle. No, I'm not doing that. I don't want to do all these black ass things.

[Carlos Miller]

No, you gotta do some.

[Jamila]

You have to do some of them. Some you have to let the baby gnaw on the chicken bone at an appropriate age. Thank you. She told me she wasn't gonna do it.

[Carlos Miller]

Come on, man.

[Jamila]

At appropriate age?

[Carlos Miller]

How old?

[Jamila]

She was telling me to let my newborn baby stuck on the bone, and he was two weeks old.

[Carlos Miller]

Not the baby.

[Jamila]

I said, well, no. She said, well, why not?

[Carlos Miller]

You gotta at least have them two little teeth.

[Jamila]

She said, well, baby, he's still on that boo. And then I said, let him lick some pot licker like the collard green juice.

[Carlos Miller]

What are you trying to build up his immunity?

[Jamila]

I'm like, slow down. He gonna get the greens.

[Carlos Miller]

Some greens on the party.

[Jamila]

Get the passy in the cheese.

[Carlos Miller]

Such a hurry to bring this.

[Jamila]

My baby gonna get some greens eventually. Not today, though. Yeah, he get some greens now, though.

[Carlos Miller]

But when your baby get them two little teeth at the bottom.

[Jamila]

Oh, what's up?

[Carlos Miller]

They ready.

[Jamila]

It's a wrap. They walk around with that same bone all day, too.

[Carlos Miller]

The chicken legs, you can't take it from.

[Jamila]

It's just sitting right here. Yeah. And we're so serious about potty training children. Oh, yes. Like, if we ain't gonna be changing no diapers for 55 years. Old enough to eat, old enough to go again. The toilet. Yeah, we're not doing all that.

[Carlos Miller]

Black people will put our baby on there and just leave it too.

[Jamila]

Yes, I said that at two. At two months, you be.

[Carlos Miller]

You. Hey, your baby neck still loose at two months? You a rich.

[Jamila]

You can't even have solid foods in two months. There's nothing to shit. Let it go. Go potty, please. All right, well, we have a game. Okay, this translation, we've named this game Hell Date.

[Carlos Miller]

All right.

[Jamila]

In honor of your time on Hell Date.

[Carlos Miller]

That was a fun time.

[Jamila]

I can only imagine. I know it was fun. I know it was fun because it was funny watching. And I'm like. I just know that there was no direction.

[Carlos Miller]

The funny part about Hell Day to me, though, is they didn't think that those ladies was going to like me for real. And then they would come on and then some episodes where they be like, got to get you eliminated. I was like, hey, she like me for real.

[Jamila]

A mess. So this is going to be like a question of, like, dates, your dating preferences.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, shit. Let's. Let's start it.

[Jamila]

Absolutely. All right. What's your favorite physical trait in a woman?

[Carlos Miller]

Can you even say that on here? Titties. I don't care nothing about that. You got the right titties. I'll work around. Titties is the Centerpiece, though.

[Jamila]

Good eye level. Point.

[Carlos Miller]

You know how you start your outfit? Some people start with the shoes, some people start with a shirt. But when it come to that, I'm starting with them. Boobs. Titties.

[Jamila]

Boobs.

[Carlos Miller]

Breasts.

[Jamila]

All right. Period. Would you rather date older or younger?

[Carlos Miller]

I like women around my age.

[Jamila]

Okay. That's a respectable answer. Yeah, you like a little mature woman. Yeah, I. I thought she was going to say older. You give me like you want an older lady? Older thundercat lady?

[Carlos Miller]

No, now that I'm a grown man, I. I like. I have a idea about how much a woman can actually do in her life than a woman who's older than me. I mean, she done did a lot more. I kind of don't want nobody with too much experience like you done did everything. She was backstage with LL Cool Je.

[Jamila]

Was.

[Carlos Miller]

She was in a Jagged Edge video. No, hell no.

[Jamila]

You.

[Carlos Miller]

You was out here with Jodeci, living lives.

[Jamila]

Slipping away.

[Carlos Miller]

You mean you was on the road with Donnell Jones?

[Jamila]

Oh, yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

You've been in Vibe magazine.

[Jamila]

I would love to hear those stories of the old ladies from when they was really back. Dina Howard type.

[Carlos Miller]

I like fine ass women who ain't really did too much, you know what I'm saying? Like sheltered. Not sheltered. She just ain't been exposed to like the industry, you know.

[Jamila]

Oh yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

She don't know too many famous. For real. Like when you got too many famous that you know personally, I'm gonna be turned up.

[Jamila]

So you don't like to date within the industry?

[Carlos Miller]

No, I don't like women who've been exposed to the industry.

[Jamila]

You like to go to a good old nurse practitioner.

[Carlos Miller]

Just the lady who like can respect the other side. The R, cuz you done been backstage, you done been on tour with, you've been in the studio with these rappers and videos and magazines and you done did too much worldly. You too, you. Yeah, well. Well, you've been around because then you start taking them to, right? Like you go to like a NBA game or something. She starts saying to let you know, like you tried, but I've had better. She be like, last time I sat over there. But this. These cool too.

[Jamila]

No, this cute though.

[Carlos Miller]

This cute.

[Jamila]

This cute.

[Carlos Miller]

I like this. I ain't never been back this far. We are two rows back. You was on the bench with a. Well, you know my ex. Oh my God. That's the worst sentence that a woman can say. Well, you know my ex.

[Jamila]

Damn. You got to go to the hospital and get you a lady and not the Hospital in Atlanta.

[Carlos Miller]

They got some fat asses at that hospital.

[Jamila]

I'm sure they do something about a butt and a scrub.

[Carlos Miller]

Them work. It's work pants.

[Jamila]

And them new scrubs are very. What the fish fig. Yes. When they got a pocket right around it, Right?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, yeah. It's something about work pants.

[Jamila]

They make that booty sit up just right. That's why everybody be having work a little booty women.

[Carlos Miller]

If you don't know if you really got it, like, if your work pants don't fit right, that's ass. They be too short. A little bit. Or when your belt get that little dent in the back. That's ass.

[Jamila]

That's.

[Carlos Miller]

But you can't buy that fake ass. Don't put that dent in that. In the middle of that belt.

[Jamila]

You pay too much attention to that ass. Okay. Have you ever double dipped? As in, have you ever messed with someone who maybe your homeboy or somebody knew also messed with?

[Carlos Miller]

Not on purpose.

[Jamila]

This is every boy's answer.

[Carlos Miller]

Not on purpose. But sometimes it'd just be like that. It don't even. It'd be such a.

[Jamila]

It's also kind of sometimes don't care.

[Carlos Miller]

Which is no, but I'm saying it'd be like a long distance.

[Jamila]

So what's the time frame where it's like, it's cool. You can. You can double dip.

[Carlos Miller]

I think that depends on who your partner is. Sometimes your partner send you over there and like, see what's up.

[Jamila]

See what's up is crazy.

[Carlos Miller]

See what's up. We all got that play ass. Homeboy who got this. Like, every group of got that one friend that get holds this thing is the professor professional hoe get. You know how y' all got the friend that can get y' all free all the time? We got a friend who can get all the hoes. It don't matter where we go. You could drop us off in Indonesia, that gonna find the hoes. That's what he do. That's why he's in the group. So people respect his ability to keep the hoes.

[Jamila]

Okay?

[Carlos Miller]

Like, you could be your birthday and be like, man, got no hoes. Like, I bring the hoes. This show up with like 12 holes.

[Jamila]

Keep that away from me, please. And keep him away from my cause. That's too much frat knives.

[Carlos Miller]

That's your nigga. If it's like out of four, it's that one that get the hoes. That one who just like, he be all over the place, but he a cool. Don't nobody really know who Friend. He is. He just been around for so long. Then you got that one partner. He gonna be down for whatever. Like this nigga. We can crash out. Or we.

[Jamila]

And which one are you?

[Carlos Miller]

I'm the. Who just be in that. I'm the. That you bring the. Keep the group together.

[Jamila]

Yeah. You the glue.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. You see anchor. Yeah, because I'll be with the. But then I got to be the one to tell her. Hey, that was some.

[Jamila]

Yeah. After they didn't already did it.

[Carlos Miller]

Absolutely.

[Jamila]

We should have did that, y'. All. Yeah, that was sad. We better than that.

[Carlos Miller]

Come on. With the hindsight. Yeah.

[Jamila]

Okay. Okay. So what region of women have you had the best experience with, like, dating in Atlanta, Dating in Mississippi, Dating on the west Coast.

[Carlos Miller]

Just women from the South.

[Jamila]

We said that. We did. So we. We said you was going to say the South. We literally said that. We wrote this question. And that leads us to our next question.

[Carlos Miller]

Okay.

[Jamila]

Do you prefer women from Atlanta or women from Mississippi or do you have a southern state that you prefer?

[Carlos Miller]

I would. I prefer women from Mississippi. We got hometown. Because they slept on. They so slept on. It's some. It's some fine shit in Mississippi. I'm talking about real fun.

[Jamila]

What do you feel like the difference is fit between the different regions of women?

[Carlos Miller]

Mississippi women are like, more skilled at everything. Like, they know how to drive trucks.

[Jamila]

I was gonna say they build.

[Carlos Miller]

They know how to park a box. Chevy. They know how to fight. They know how to dance, braid, hair cook. They tough as hell. Can't nobody out drink them. Can't nobody talk more than them. They have the biggest families and they just. They'll love you forever. For real Southern guys. And it's like Mississippi women, you kind of get like three different versions of them. Like, you get the real found her and then you get the mama version. Then you get the big woman version. Like when she turned to a big.

[Jamila]

Girl, like, it's just inevitable. That's just the.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, yeah. Because at a certain point. Yeah, she gonna get big. That's gonna happen.

[Jamila]

It's just gonna happen. It's gonna happen every last.

[Carlos Miller]

Because in Mississippi, we eat different. Everybody be hog moles. They look at me when I leave. I know they be talking, man, what's the country's thing? You eat the country's thing. Chicken gizzards.

[Jamila]

Oh, you fry them up.

[Carlos Miller]

Get them from the gas station.

[Jamila]

That's real country.

[Carlos Miller]

But in Mississippi, our gas station food is a one. Anybody who ever been to Mississippi potato. Cuz it be our family in there. Cu be like your Aunt Glattus, she frying all the chicken as she run. And you know that chicken, right? Like, she see you, she like, she going to give you something fresh up out of there. Table all day.

[Jamila]

Chicken gets from the gas station. Do you put the pickles in Kool Aid, too, or eat pickles? You don't eat Kool Aid in the pickles, baby. What I say?

[Carlos Miller]

Kool Aid peppers.

[Jamila]

That was my dyslexia. You know something? Look, Kool Aid pickle, Okay? Y' all don't eat that.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't.

[Jamila]

Do you eat the pig feet that's in the pickle jar? So you don't like no type of pickle? Pickle, nothing?

[Carlos Miller]

No, I don't. I can't do that. Chitlins that been sitting on the counter all day. Absolutely not.

[Jamila]

Oh, okay.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't eat a lot of. Yeah.

[Jamila]

Boys are picky eaters in general.

[Carlos Miller]

I grew up around a lot of old people, so some of this, it ain't just like, oh. It's just that when I had it, I was like, I don't wanna. I'm never gonna eat this again.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

I grew up with my grandfather, and this would eat a whole dinner. It'd just be beans, like three different kind of beans, and some cornbread and some greens. I'm like, bro, what? You don't have to eat like this no more. But that's just what he like, beans and rice.

[Jamila]

One thing about it, that was one of my favorite things about visiting my grandmother. She would always make us red beans and rice or something. That's. That was the meal. Red beans and rice with a good old homemade cornbread.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. But when we tell people about the gas station food in Mississippi, you can literally get good food everywhere. The gas station, they got a section at the grocery store where you could get a whole layout plate so big on, like, the food be so heavy, you can hear the Styrofoam breaking.

[Jamila]

Yes. I like them type of plates where it's, like cracking, and then you have to put a little Saran Wrap because the bean juice will spill over.

[Carlos Miller]

They gotta put it in that white bag and tie it up because the juices are.

[Jamila]

You don't want to spill. That's the type of meal that just slumps you before you ain't going nowhere. Halfway done. Grease right there on that lip, that corner.

[Carlos Miller]

But people always be like, I never been to Mississippi. So I tell them it's like, it's not a whole lot of to do.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

But if you want to go see Some family and get some good ass food and just chill.

[Jamila]

10 out of 10.

[Carlos Miller]

10 out of 10.

[Jamila]

Okay. So have you ever dated a woman outside your race?

[Carlos Miller]

Yep.

[Jamila]

How was that experience?

[Carlos Miller]

It was different.

[Jamila]

What was the race?

[Carlos Miller]

It was still brown.

[Jamila]

Okay, Latina. Oh, another brown.

[Carlos Miller]

Just brown.

[Jamila]

Indian.

[Carlos Miller]

It's a lot of brown.

[Jamila]

A whole lot of red.

[Carlos Miller]

Hold on.

[Jamila]

Asian?

[Carlos Miller]

No, I've dated a lot of women.

[Jamila]

Okay.

[Carlos Miller]

I never dated. No, like, not like on. No, constant, like consistent. It might just be a night type to, you know, go out and eat. Rendezvous didn't really go.

[Jamila]

What was the different. Like when you say it was different, what was different about it?

[Carlos Miller]

Just the. I don't really even know how to put it into words. It's just like the understanding, I guess. You know, like as black people, it's certain. That's just like. You don't have to say yes for sure. You see him, you be like, what the. Yeah, that.

[Jamila]

Yeah, that makes sense. That's why I can't date outside my race. I'm real black. And I just say, I. All my references are black. All of my thoughts are black. And I just feel like you got to understand that. You got to get that.

[Carlos Miller]

That's the part though. It's like when you got. You got to think about that when you date outside of your race, you be like, I don't know. I can't turn my back on these. We got too much history.

[Jamila]

And then no shade, they have stuff that we don't get too. So it's like y' all both are in a loop of like, what's going on? What's going on.

[Carlos Miller]

Right, but see, when you say dating, you should really just ask me if I was them, because that's what it really was. It wasn't like, I can't really give you the differences because I was in disguise, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was just pretending to be whoever I need it to be to get this, you know what I'm saying, for that night. Okay, so if it like, it wasn't like I had to.

[Jamila]

So you have. You have a non black dates, huh? You have non black body.

[Carlos Miller]

But not like every sniper does.

[Jamila]

Every.

[Carlos Miller]

What Every sniper does. Every sniper does. That's what you. You should have just said that.

[Jamila]

But, like, have I been non black woman, y'? All. That's what we wanted to say.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, some of it, it was just gauge of me, but some of it, I had to put my little disguise on.

[Jamila]

What that look like?

[Carlos Miller]

Y' all don't know that, like When a man change your voice.

[Jamila]

Oh, I know y' all got that.

[Carlos Miller]

Representative gonna be who they need to be to be who they want.

[Jamila]

A little nice voice. Hi, how are you?

[Carlos Miller]

No, not like that, cuz. That ain't. That wasn't an appeal.

[Jamila]

Ah, yeah. Okay, okay.

[Carlos Miller]

Sometimes you have to just be the they think you are.

[Jamila]

Manipulation 101.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Just be who they think you are. If you think I ain't, I'mma show you. I'mma show you a. You know, make sure you see me put the gun up and all that.

[Jamila]

Oh, my God.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, you like.

[Jamila]

Damn. Such a long day, man.

[Carlos Miller]

I wish a would. Wish a would. Hey, hey, who that? Please let me put this money falling out the pocket.

[Jamila]

Oh, damn. My hundreds keep falling on. Let me take this. Call my plug call.

[Carlos Miller]

Are you still gonna make that little play with the voice and see the voice?

[Jamila]

Yeah. Make it worth their while. Yeah. Give a little experience.

[Carlos Miller]

When ain't nobody looking, you just walk up behind and grab a neck. Better not.

[Jamila]

Oh, my God. Okay, stop, Carlo, stop. You play too much. No, I really was scared.

[Carlos Miller]

But you have to do that because so you can learn about different women. But some is just universal. I know that women like, they love some adventurous.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[Carlos Miller]

You can't just tell them all your moves. Sometimes you just got to be like, what you doing? Come ride with me right quick.

[Jamila]

Oh, yeah. I don't do it.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't even know what to put on. That's the best. Like, I'm talking about like on some middle of the night type. Some wear with me right quick. And then she don't know what to wear.

[Jamila]

So this is your plate and you.

[Carlos Miller]

Can tell she excited to go. Like, why you got rain boots on?

[Jamila]

But then you got. You got to play it cool like you're not excited. Well, like, what we about to do? Like, I never tell my hair. And then you be excited.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah. Oh, my God. And then take. You got to stop by quick trip. Let her get a slush and some chips on the way back. Yeah.

[Jamila]

Little snack.

[Carlos Miller]

They like adventures. And they like. They like to be around dangerous, too. They like a little danger.

[Jamila]

He lost me there.

[Carlos Miller]

They like most of them.

[Jamila]

Okay. I get danger back in the day. I get scared real easy. You got. You got a.

[Carlos Miller]

Not like a shootout.

[Jamila]

Shootout. Well, how dangerous we get? You could put your gun on the table, right?

[Carlos Miller]

Like, I'mma take you to the side of town that you ain't, you know?

[Jamila]

Okay. And then you know everybody. So it's like just at your cousin's house. Right, Okay, I. I can get with that. I can get with that. Your cousin on your daddy side house.

[Carlos Miller]

Like just taking over on that side of town.

[Jamila]

I can get with that, cuz. I got. I got that in my family too. So I'm a little. A little familiar, right?

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, but see, when you take her over there and then you look up and then she comfortable talking with your cousin and playing sp, then you be like, okay, she want us, she get it.

[Jamila]

Yeah, okay, valid. Well, what's your biggest turnoff in a woman?

[Carlos Miller]

My biggest turn off. I don't like dumb women. I love a motherfucker who's smart. That's how you get me.

[Jamila]

Okay, and then last question. When it comes to dating, are you the partner who plays too much?

[Carlos Miller]

Nope.

[Jamila]

You run a strict program.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't run a strict program, but I'm not playing, you know, play for that nigga like that. Like we gonna have fun.

[Jamila]

Oh, so you not playful?

[Carlos Miller]

No, I'm not playing.

[Jamila]

I'm not playing.

[Carlos Miller]

I'll be dead serious about mine. I be.

[Jamila]

That's such a stark contrast. Because I feel like people would think like, oh, you so playful. And then they get a serious ass nigga.

[Carlos Miller]

I mean, we gonna play inside there, but it. It's definitely not. It's not a damn gym. We not playing.

[Jamila]

It's not the game, baby.

[Carlos Miller]

But see, when I log in, I'm all the way. I'm all the way back there.

[Jamila]

That's that Mississippi. I feel like men from Mississippi don't play.

[Carlos Miller]

We're not playing about that, cuz. Now you ain't my girlfriend. You my old lady at this point.

[Jamila]

Oh, once you put down that old lady.

[Carlos Miller]

Not playing.

[Jamila]

Not playing about that old lady at all. About the old lady. They don't give a damn about the girlfriends. That's a they right here. They my old lady.

[Carlos Miller]

Hey, Play, let me holler at you.

[Jamila]

Right?

[Carlos Miller]

You ever hear say that?

[Jamila]

Scared. Scared. Okay, so we're going to do one last segment. This is called Spin It. So this is our own little advice column. So I'm gonna let Mecca introduce it and I'm gonna read this thing and you're gonna help us give some advice to our people.

[Carlos Miller]

Okay?

[Jamila]

All right, guys. So this is our segment called Spin It. It's kind of our advice segment, but more like PR advice. Now keep in mind that Jamila and I are not PR professionals. We just studied it in undergrad. Don't forget to send us your nasty, low down, salacious situation.

[Carlos Miller]

Wow.

[Jamila]

To act unhinged anymore, you gotta be Nasty, ain't it? Does unhingedemoralpod gmail.com. do not forget to include your gender, your race, your age, and if you're a man, your height. It does matter.

[Carlos Miller]

Why does it matter?

[Jamila]

It matters because when we're giving advice, I need to know all the things to consider.

[Carlos Miller]

Why?

[Jamila]

Because the advice changes.

[Carlos Miller]

So what? How does the advice vary for a. That's 5, 8 to a that at 68.

[Jamila]

Well, that was her adding that in there. It varies. It matters. She's a. She's a heist. I am. I am a heist.

[Carlos Miller]

You like tall men?

[Jamila]

My parents are smurfed, so yeah. I just feel like I grew up around all short people. I'm used to being eye level with like men in my family. So when I'm like this, I'm like, this is a man.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, you going to listen?

[Jamila]

No. All right, here we go. Hey, ladies, love yalls pod and tick tock the haters. Okay. Period. Anyway, I would like to stay anonymous. All right. I just wanted to start off by saying I don't actually think I'm a terrible person as the title says, but I honestly feel terrible for wanting to do what I'm about to talk about. Oh, here we go. So to cut the choice, the story short, me and my boyfriend have been together for four years now and living together for two. It doesn't say yet. Oh, at the end it says fed up, girly. So girl. So together. Story short, me and my boyfriend have been together for four years now and living together for two over the last year. He got laid off from his tech job and hasn't been working. He had money saved up, so he's been paying bills and his bills. He has been able to pay his bills and expenses, but his energy to get another job has been very low. He doesn't really apply for that many jobs. He thinks recruiters should come to him as they did for his last two jobs. So I'm just very irritated and overwhelmed because I've been having to pay for way more things than I can afford. And he has literally no desire to change that other than the hypothetical situation he says he will do for me once he gets another job, starts acting or starts a business one day trading activities, actually make a profit. I'm just annoyed, honestly. And I want to break up with him because of this. But my family and select few friends that I know that know my situation are saying to just stick it out because he's a great man and he loves me and he was able to provide for me at a certain point, and he has plans to do so in the unforeseeable future. They hate you. My parents love him. My friends think he's a great person too, which is true for the most part. He clean. He. He cleans, does everything around the house, gets groceries, and still pays for things here and there. But I feel bad asking for anything for extra help because I know his financial situation. I just feel like he's super comfortable with our situation right now and doesn't even care to have an income or other, other than Uber. And he can live like this much. I cannot live like this much longer. So any advice or PR spin to not make me look like a terrible person to my friends and family that love him, or should I even let what we built for the past four years go? Because I'm making this a bigger deal than it is. Thanks. Xoxo a fed up girly sister.

[Carlos Miller]

My advice would be to the dude, break up with her. Oh, she all on the Internet telling all y'.

[Jamila]

All.

[Carlos Miller]

You can't trust this lady with nothing. Leave her, bro. Leave her. I would hate to be with somebody who put all our business in the streets.

[Jamila]

Every last detail.

[Carlos Miller]

She don't know how much money this man made and got saved up or nothing. He might just be testing her, see how far.

[Jamila]

For two years.

[Carlos Miller]

For two years he gonna wait. He gonna break up with him. Like, here go your. Look rat ass man. So you gonna call Megan and Jamila and tell them all I got. Damn. I was about to ask you to be my wife, but now I can't trust you with this. I've been out of it.

[Jamila]

Did you say they name that? She said it's anonymous.

[Carlos Miller]

Whatever you think he ain't gonna hear this?

[Jamila]

He said.

[Carlos Miller]

Hold on about him. Who else work in tech?

[Jamila]

Who else?

[Carlos Miller]

Who else?

[Jamila]

What you go. What you got to say? Cause I would say, well, you need to leave him, cuz two years, that's half the relationship you've been being the boy. You know, it's. So here's the thing. This is what I would say, because there's bad situations, right? Everybody gets into bad situations. You can't help getting laid off. So it's like we're. We're empathizing. That's me empathizing with the situation. However, comma, him not doing what he needs to do to get another job is a red flag. Because he is getting comfortable. Because at. At some point, all right, now it's you. Why are you not all right now? Where's your efforts?

[Carlos Miller]

But what if he is, he's just not doing it the way she want him to do it.

[Jamila]

Two years.

[Carlos Miller]

It might take two years to get like that job that's gonna pay you 700, 000.

[Jamila]

That's true. But in the interim of that, you need to probably get you a little. A little Best Buy. Yeah, a little something.

[Carlos Miller]

Y' all don't have faith. You don't believe in A.

[Jamila]

No, never believe in A. And you know what? I did have faith in A. And that's why I'm giving the advice I'm giving now. You put your trust in a stupid ho. How you figure? You want to. Your best friend and your sister.

[Carlos Miller]

They both fine. They both fine. Now.

[Jamila]

Baby, I know how this story ends. And she gonna cheat on him anyway. Or he's gonna cheat on you.

[Carlos Miller]

She gonna cheat on him.

[Jamila]

He gonna cheat on her.

[Carlos Miller]

He ain't gonna cheat because he at the crib.

[Jamila]

Do you think that's cheat every day?

[Carlos Miller]

She already done found the reason though.

[Jamila]

True. And you know what's good?

[Carlos Miller]

She was leading up to it with her little title.

[Jamila]

Oh, for sure.

[Carlos Miller]

I ain't no terrible person. She probably already said that.

[Jamila]

Ready?

[Carlos Miller]

Somebody at her job.

[Jamila]

Yeah, with them work pants and that booty.

[Carlos Miller]

Still with that who don't work?

[Jamila]

He's sitting on that desk, making money, turning around.

[Carlos Miller]

Right. Bought a Subway like two times already.

[Jamila]

I love Subway too.

[Carlos Miller]

Exactly. He know her order. That's what impressed her.

[Jamila]

It is impressive.

[Carlos Miller]

Banana peppers, chicken breasted. Girl, you know I know you don't like mayonnaise, extra oil, salt and pepper.

[Jamila]

Pepper. The tomatoes, sauce on it. Thank you.

[Carlos Miller]

You ain't get my ranch. Come on, stop playing with me, girl.

[Jamila]

Come on, girl, stop playing.

[Carlos Miller]

You know what else I got? You know what else I got? You know what else I got the macadamia cookie. That's what got her. She melted.

[Jamila]

Literally. Cuz, you know them cookies is.

[Carlos Miller]

Look, he got her. She wrapped up.

[Jamila]

But see, unfortunately, sister, you are gonna have to leave this man. Because one thing I know about a man is a be broke for too long, he get mean.

[Carlos Miller]

That's real.

[Jamila]

And you don't want no mean. And he's cleaning the house right now.

[Carlos Miller]

But he is.

[Jamila]

That's what she said. He cleaned the house.

[Carlos Miller]

Oh, that deserves some grace. Because any that cleaned the house is not about to be mean. But he gonna be built different.

[Jamila]

I was gonna say. He might have to stop though. He not if he go on you. Because actually, I don't even think. He's been unemployed for two years. I think They've been. No, no, they've been living together for two years. I don't know how long he's been unemployed. Oh, over the last year. He got laid off. So. Yeah, he. He about to stop cleaning.

[Carlos Miller]

He still got like half the money. He still pays something.

[Jamila]

He pays here and there. He's paying for a grocer. He's paying for too much.

[Carlos Miller]

I think it's a plot. I think that he had a job, right. And he was doing too much too fast. And then he realized how much money she getting. And then he pulled it back and tried to be like, I ain't got no job. Well, where your money? Where your rent? Where your half? I got my half. Where is he getting the other half from?

[Jamila]

I don't know.

[Carlos Miller]

See, he stacked the bread up. He doing this to make her go 50, 50.

[Jamila]

And that means you should leave him.

[Carlos Miller]

He. In the tech space. You don't need a job technically to be getting money. If you know about computers, he could be building websites on the side. He could be diagnosing and fixing computers. He probably still got a little security clearance somewhere. You never know with these things.

[Jamila]

And why is he driving?

[Carlos Miller]

He might have some crypto money.

[Jamila]

Does anyone crypto?

[Carlos Miller]

Is he in the tech world? I'm thinking that the technical.

[Jamila]

That's what they do. I've never understood it, but anything about crypto, that's what they do.

[Carlos Miller]

Do them dudes who know how to do tech. They know how to get some money off the Internet.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

And you don't need like a job sending you a check if you. If you getting a bunch of independent contract work.

[Jamila]

Yeah, no, that does. You can't make a lot of money if you stack them contracts. That's. But she also said her family and her friends love him so dearly. And I think that's what's clouding her. I don't give a damn about that.

[Carlos Miller]

First of all, it's making me think she don't like this because why she care about what everybody else?

[Jamila]

That's what I'm saying. You. You don't like him. I think she stopped liking him a while ago. And him with his job added to it.

[Carlos Miller]

Her having to pay them bills made her lose interest.

[Jamila]

Yes. And then she started to see him for who he really was. He said, oh, no. Something about it when you. When you paying a man's way for too long.

[Carlos Miller]

But she never said she was paying his way.

[Jamila]

Yeah, but she said she did say she paying more than what she likes.

[Carlos Miller]

That could mean anything when it come To a woman, that can mean that. That could mean he ain't paying all. All her bills.

[Jamila]

Cuz she. She said that he's paying all of his bills and he's paying for groceries. So what are his bills? Like what? I wish I knew the full breakdown of. She's probably cover. If you don't have a job, I would assume she's covering their rent. That's what it gives. Because I don't. I. I don't see like that's usually the biggest. I was to say in a regular situation, most households divvy up bills. Like. So if she's in a writing us like I'm paying too much and she says I pay. He pays his bills and buy the groceries. That leads me to believe you're paying the rent and you paying the light bill and you're paying all the big shit. And you don't like that, which is fair. And he's paying his car note, insurance and groceries and groceries. Some little bills. Little wi fi. Hate it. I wouldn't like it either. Shit, I'm supposed to pay the little bills. I' ma always get the groceries and wi fi because I know what I want to cook and I have to be on the Internet because of my job.

[Carlos Miller]

I don't think we got enough information to have a strong. It's too many what ifs.

[Jamila]

It's too many what ifs. There's too many variables.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

But I will say the fact that you're writing this letter lets me know. I know you've made your decision already.

[Carlos Miller]

And we gotta hit both sides. Yeah, just look, if you was looking for us to tell you to cheat on that man, do it. Cause you already. I don't know when you.

[Jamila]

We wasn't gonna tell you to cheat.

[Carlos Miller]

We was gonna tell you she wanted somebody to believe to, like, give her the affirmation. Girl, do your thing. You deserve better. We don't know who this man is. This nigga might be giving her his all at the moment and she's cleaning. I want to hear his side.

[Jamila]

Well, he gonna tell you he's at Uber and he's where you at?

[Carlos Miller]

Did she tell y' all I paid off her student loan?

[Jamila]

And like, I wonder if their sex is good. You know, it doesn't give good. Because typically when the girls write in, they will say. We'll say. But it's so good, they let us know every time I say the that sister again. Except popping cuz, when you broke, you can't give good pe.

[Carlos Miller]

Yes, you can. That's Actually, when you deliver some of your best performances right there.

[Jamila]

Cuz you need somewhere to stay, cuz you got to. I mean, you ain't got nothing left. I.

[Carlos Miller]

Not because that. You got to use that to keep her believing in you.

[Jamila]

Yeah. Every time you give good peeing, that extends the contract a couple more weeks.

[Carlos Miller]

Right?

[Jamila]

So he not giving you good peeing. And he broke. Definitely leave this.

[Carlos Miller]

Don't leave him, though, because you're gonna end up by yourself and then you're gonna have to pay even more bills.

[Jamila]

Ah. And you did say you couldn't afford it, sister. So maybe keep him. Keep him intact. Maybe. Have y' all tried talking? Have y' all tried having a conversation?

[Carlos Miller]

It doesn't sound like we say everything.

[Jamila]

But that we say everything but. But maybe talk to him. Maybe tell them how you feel. Perhaps figure out a plan. Like maybe communicate. Yes. Perhaps take him to a job fair. Something along those lines. She said he had no motivation, though, so just to talk. Let's take him to a therapist. Maybe he needs to talk with the lady. But you must. If you want to keep that relationship, you must do something before that get mean, sister.

[Carlos Miller]

You.

[Jamila]

You on a ticking time bomb. Because once that get mean and broke, I fear you are on the way to hell, sister. It's too late.

[Carlos Miller]

And they still in that lease. When is the lease up? When is that lease?

[Jamila]

Asking the real question.

[Carlos Miller]

Don't sign that lease again.

[Jamila]

Don't sign that lease again. You got. You gotta thug it up.

[Carlos Miller]

Y' all ain't gotta break up, maybe. See, that's the thing. Breaking up is the final straw. Yeah, y' all gotta separate spaces again. Because if he laid up in her crib, it's always gonna be a problem.

[Jamila]

He's comfortable, right? And he get to big spoon you every night.

[Carlos Miller]

Right? And if she didn't moved into his trying to tell him to get a job, that's another issue. So I'm feeling like she got the apartment because he was. He was up first. Then he got the good tech job, was going a certain way. Then he stopped. The money stopped coming in. Then she did say she had to start paying for a little bit more. And he ain't motivated, so he probably just playing the game all day making sandwiches.

[Jamila]

I love good sandwich. That's why I love Subway.

[Carlos Miller]

But then you come home after working all day and ain't no sandwich meat nothing left.

[Jamila]

And you on that game that I.

[Carlos Miller]

Left you at, and then it's like, damn, you ain't. You ain't even think that I Wanted a sandwich. You went. You ate all the turkey and the ham.

[Jamila]

Greedy. Come on, cuz, you. You doubling up on meat. You doing double meat sandwiches every day.

[Carlos Miller]

And you know I don't even with the ham. But you ate all my turkey. That. That ham was for you.

[Jamila]

That was for you. That's why I got you that ham. That's crazy.

[Carlos Miller]

That's my work ham get triggered.

[Jamila]

Jesus.

[Carlos Miller]

You done ate my work turkey meat.

[Jamila]

Use all my honey mustard. You know that ain't even for you.

[Carlos Miller]

And why you drink all my ruby red cranberries? You don't even like them. That was for me.

[Jamila]

Please. You don't use a good cheese. My mustard, my good breads.

[Carlos Miller]

When you start liking provolone, you don't even.

[Jamila]

You don't like provolone. You be getting them regular American slices of soup is cheeses that you give the children. Provolone is for the adults.

[Carlos Miller]

That's really when somebody eat up all the food. And then the ice trays is empty too.

[Jamila]

You ain't even got the audacity to re the ice. Oh, that's the type of. That'll piss you. That'll be your last.

[Carlos Miller]

You sitting up in this big cooking.

[Jamila]

You know, leaving the box of chips, but the box is empty. Don't piss me off off or you.

[Carlos Miller]

Reaching the box ain't left. Why didn't you throw the box clean ass Fritos?

[Jamila]

Oh well, I like a freak.

[Carlos Miller]

You don't like. You only like them. Cuz ain't no more.

[Jamila]

I only eat the fritos when I got chili. So I can make a frito pie.

[Carlos Miller]

Come on.

[Jamila]

Yes, that's it. That's real good. I didn't. Why didn't want. Have you ever had a chili. The. The frito pie with the flaming hot Fritos? It's a little too shitty for me, but I'm. I'mma let you rock with that though. I believe flaming hot fritos are so slept on, y'. All. I swear. They're so good. They are so good. And then if you open the bag and put the cheese and in the gas station.

[Carlos Miller]

You from Mississippi, so you was locked up.

[Jamila]

Sound about right. She making jail pizza.

[Carlos Miller]

Push them all up. Make a burrito out of that.

[Jamila]

You don't make. You make the nachos. It's a nacho. You put the jalapenos and the cheese and the meat. Very good. Yeah. Okay.

[Carlos Miller]

Well, unfortunately I'm so concerned about that couple now though.

[Jamila]

We. We haven't given you any advice. We've just yeah, we just kind of just talked, but unfortunately there's not much we can give you. I do need a follow up though. Yeah, definitely send us a follow up. I need a follow up and actually follow up in a month because that's when it'll get the rent.

[Carlos Miller]

Hold on, we gotta. It's close to Christmas too now. Oh, you can't break up right before Christmas, sister. This Christmas gift could be to make a break. Cuz what if he. He been like stash a little money for.

[Jamila]

Oh, Sister, you got to hold on tight. Give us a New Year's update. I've definitely done that.

[Carlos Miller]

You got to at least wait till January.

[Jamila]

Yes. Right.

[Carlos Miller]

And then like you around your family in on it. That's why they like.

[Jamila]

Exactly. It could be a proposal. He's saving up for the ring. Ah, yeah. And come Thanksgiving, you know your family love him. They going to be looking for him.

[Carlos Miller]

Then you got the answer. He make her cry at the engagement. I ain't want to tell you, but I started my own.

[Jamila]

Oh, that would be so te. I hope that's what happens, sister. I'm praying. I'm praying that's what's gonna happen. But I really hope that's what I'm just, I'm.

[Carlos Miller]

Hypothetically.

[Jamila]

He's trying to. He's trying to. He putting off. That's a great hypothetical, you know, that is excellent. That's. That's exactly what you would want to happen. And I want that for you, sister. I do. So maybe if you cheat, he might.

[Carlos Miller]

Be saving up for the down payment on the crib.

[Jamila]

If you cheat, just don't tell nobody and make sure it's far away. Don't do nothing close so they can.

[Carlos Miller]

Connect the dots and definitely don't be out there sucking dick. He might forgive you for some cheating, but if you. Sucking dick.

[Jamila]

Isn'T sucking dick. Apart of sex. That's right. Sometimes you. It's not separate, is it?

[Carlos Miller]

It's separate. I know y' all got a lot of male viewers who watch this show.

[Jamila]

We actually do.

[Carlos Miller]

Like when you, when you. When you the she cheating with, sometimes she'll have like a little bit like a little bit of respect left for the relationship. You're like, I can't. But.

[Jamila]

I'mma just do it from the back so I can't even look. I can't do that to him. I'm still in a relationship because that's just too ins.

[Carlos Miller]

No, I'm with somebody.

[Jamila]

We can't kiss. I'm sorry.

[Carlos Miller]

Yeah, that's.

[Jamila]

There's Too many rules. I can't be all wrapped up in all this.

[Carlos Miller]

You don't cheat with no rules. Back when you was cheating, I never cheated. Never.

[Jamila]

I should have shout out to Keisha what you should have did Keisha.

[Carlos Miller]

You don't have bro shout out to all the fellas that know when a woman cheat. Girl when she cheat, she always out there. She come pick you up and everything.

[Jamila]

That make you feel special cook you a meal. Unfortunately, I didn't. I really wish I did though. I wish I had that feeling of what that felt like to cheat on a. I just want to know what that feel like. Feel. I feel like. It feels like power. I want to know what the boys feel.

[Carlos Miller]

It is terrible feeling. It's the guilt. As soon as you cheat on a you start like they'll show you why you like them in the first place. Damn it.

[Jamila]

Stomach hurt. Damn. Why'd I do that?

[Carlos Miller]

Well, it's not a good feeling.

[Jamila]

The exhilaration.

[Carlos Miller]

That's why I don't give a huh.

[Jamila]

Why I keep doing it then.

[Carlos Miller]

That's a whole nother hour. Because a lot of women see how like when you a and you trying whether you're a good boyfriend or not, they only get to see the good parts. Then some women that see your man like giving you the good part and be like, if he'll do that for her, I know he'll with me even heavier. So the next chick who show up, who she gonna just give him all the that he got to work for for. For you. So it's a lot of pussy being given away to who they have already seen be somebody else's. Cuz a lot of women don't like nobody until another woman validate that. You know how they be like, you can't get a bad until they see you with one. And then it's like you only got her cuz she saw you were hurt. That should be real.

[Jamila]

That's why Nene said that's why she don't post men no more. Cuz it gives them like it makes they stop it do. Yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

So when they see you in action and they only seeing the good parts, that's what happened. They start throwing it at you. And then you be like, move, stop.

[Jamila]

And then you'd be like, all right, I can't keep. I can't be in it. Stop.

[Carlos Miller]

Men don't have no escape plan when that happen. Like would you just supposed to just keep hitting this forever till you get caught? It's like selling dope. You want to get out the streets. But you can't.

[Jamila]

Oh yeah.

[Carlos Miller]

The game be calling you and it's like new fine women come out every day, Carlos.

[Jamila]

Well, it's the game.

[Carlos Miller]

Hey man, look at your explore page. Just like some you you like. You was asking what kind of woman I like. Now they gonna pop up on there, everyone.

[Jamila]

Big old titty, big titty. And you be right there. Hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing?

[Carlos Miller]

They going lol.

[Jamila]

Look at. Look at them all us. I heard you on the podcast. I heard what you said. You are so funny. Panties.

[Carlos Miller]

Yep.

[Jamila]

You going to see him get stripped? Cuz he said he's not. He don't be playing.

[Carlos Miller]

I'm. I'm dead ass.

[Jamila]

Then you put on that voice. Be like, come here girl, better not.

[Carlos Miller]

Go play with me. You hit it with that. Make a thing. She in danger. Okay.

[Jamila]

Oh my goodness. This is a whole other three hours with you. Yes. Thank you so much for coming. Where can we find you, Carlos?

[Carlos Miller]

You find me on 85 South Show. You can find me on social media. It's just my name, Carlos M. You can find me on tour, you can find me at the comedy club. You can find me online somewhere. I'm. I'm moving around.

[Jamila]

Okay.

[Carlos Miller]

A married widow, period.

[Jamila]

Well, thank you so much for joining us.

[Carlos Miller]

Thank you all for having me. This is such a great, refreshing conversation.

[Jamila]

I'm so glad you enjoyed yourself. Shout out to Unhinged. Well, this has been another amazing episode of Unhinged Immoral. You already know where to find us. Make sure y' all subscribe to the Patreon. They are people. And we'll see you next week. Bye.