Let's Make Wicked BLACK | EP. 54

Summary

Unhinged & Immoral | Episode 54: "Let's Make Wicked BLACK"

Hosts: Jamila Bell & Mecca Evans
Release Date: January 8, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Jamila and Mecca ring in the new year with their signature chaotic humor and deep dives into pop culture, internet gossip, and their personal lives. The show explores their successes in 2025, their evolving creative pursuits, the realities of parenting and co-parenting as zillennials, and culminates in a hilarious, in-depth fantasy casting of a “Black Wicked” (a reimagining of the musical Wicked through a Black cultural lens). They also tackle an extra-messy listener’s letter in their Spin It segment, and roast Nicki Minaj’s recent controversies in the Screwball segment. The whole show is peppered with fast banter, memorable quips, and zillenial Black internet culture references.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up – Daily Life & Internet Antics

[01:15–04:51]

• Mecca comes in recovering from a late night, sharing about “mouth harassing a Jack in the Box burger” on TikTok. Jamila teases her about her wild TikTok energy.
• Conversation veers into co-parenting realities: Jamila discusses her routine with her son Noah and co-parenting with Noah’s father, highlighting how common children are in their friend group now (“That’s how I know we grown as fuck!” – Mecca, 05:28).
• Both praise work environments that welcome parents/kids and reminisce about being brought to work and hustles with their own mothers.

“Kids, it’s also just not that deep to me. Like, yeah, obviously, kids can be annoying, but the way some people talk about kids is just icky.”
— Jamila, 06:01

2. On Parenting, Work, & Growing Up

[04:52–12:47]

• Further reflection on how normalized parenthood has become in their circles.
• Talks of bringing kids to creative jobs, personal anecdote about Noah’s internet savvy (“Mommy, you better make a video.” – Noah, via Jamila, 11:27).
• They joke about showing up to career day as full-fledged content creators.

3. New Year Reflections & Highlights of 2025

[12:59–19:08]

• The hosts reflect on 2025, citing major career moments—attending and speaking at Essence Festival, “red carpet” influencer experiences, and their meteoric rise.
• Transformation from sharing paid hotel rooms to being comped separate rooms showcases their upward trajectory.
• They touch on the double-edged sword of internet notoriety: pettiness, internet “beefs” they chose not to respond to, and building thicker skin.

“At the end of the day, I’m working. She's booked, and she's busy. Nothing that y'all said stick! I never did give a fuck.”
— Jamila, 19:08

4. Social Media, Fame, & Personal Growth

[19:41–22:05]

• The cultural divide between Twitter and TikTok: Mecca finds Twitter exhausting now that she’s more visible, both lament how their tweets can quickly go viral or end up on blogs.
• The growth in social media reach leads to being more cautious about what they post; nostalgia for when they could post “off the wall” without consequence.

“Once you hit over 20,000 followers, your tweets travel at a faster rate... now you on the blogs.”
— Mecca, 21:16

5. Performance, Stand-up, and Acting Ambitions

[22:05–30:46]

• Jamila’s highlight of her year: meeting Tisha Campbell (“I’m never gonna let that fuckin’… down!” – Jamila, 22:05).
• Both share their creative experiments:
  • Jamila is venturing into stand-up, recounting open mic nights and trying stand-up-comedy-infused hosting.
  • Mecca is taking comedic acting classes, inspired by their work on “Safe Space.”
  • They discuss rejection in creative fields, referencing a TikTok about aiming for “1,000 ‘no’s” as a way to normalize rejection and grow from it.

“One thousand ‘no’s—on your way to that, how many yeses do you get?”
— Mecca, 27:24

• Surprising “lore” revealed: both auditioned for big roles—Jamila for “Empire,” Mecca for “Sonny With a Chance.”

6. Set Life & The Entertainment Bubble

[30:46–34:29]

• The unique, close-knit dynamic that arises from working on TV/movie sets, compared to the “bubble” that can form during such projects (“You gotta be a little psychotic to be in entertainment.” – Jamila, 30:46).
• Discussion of the “Wicked” movie, contrasting it and “The Wiz” with a Black cultural lens.

7. The “Let’s Make Wicked BLACK” Fantasy Casting

[34:29–44:55]

• Main event: Jamila and Mecca go wild with a speculative, all-Black reimagining and cast of Wicked/The Wiz, complete with plot rewrites to maximize Black drama and musical excellence.
• Emphasis on needing a real Black diva for Evillene’s backstory (“We need all the trauma to make Evillene sympathetic. Where’s Tyler Perry?” – Mecca, 36:04).
• Suggestions for musical direction (Jon Batiste), lead cast (Lynn Whitfield, Marlon Wayans, Miles from "Sinners," Halle Bailey, Samara Joy, Jacquees), and mandatory “brand integrity” (Older Dorothy, short fro!):

“It has to be a 40-year-old woman playing Dorothy. Short fro, clearly over 35!”
— Mecca, 38:49

• Hilarious bickering over casting, with special care to stereotypes, musical quality, and “brand integrity” (44:10–44:55).
• Discussion about possible directors (Lee Daniels vs. Ryan Coogler); consensus: Ryan Coogler’s attention to detail would nail it (48:00).

8. Spin It: Listener Mess & PR Advice

[49:43–61:14]

• [50:42–61:14] — Must Listen Segment
• A listener from North Carolina writes in about an ongoing affair with a married coworker; wants PR advice on joining his family as a ‘sister wife.’
• Hosts are both appalled and entertained, offering devilishly pragmatic advice (“You’re gonna be in the lineup with two others that are not as cute as you, to give the illusion of choice…” – Jamila, 56:12).
• They hold nothing back in the read, roasting both the listener’s choices and the demographic context (“There’s only eight niggas in North Carolina!” – Mecca, 59:26).

“Let me just read you… once you stop being dickmatized and get some self-esteem, you're gonna realize how fucking insane this sounds.”
— Mecca, 62:28

9. Screwball Segment: Nicki Minaj Roast

[66:45–80:22]

• They crown Nicki Minaj the “screwball” of the week, unpacking her latest stunt performing at a Turning Point USA event.
• They clown both Minaj and her fans (Barbs), especially those hurt by her political antics.
• Roast the cycle of celebrity controversy, how Minaj “feeds off attention,” and predict her next album will flop or be cynically supported by right-wingers.
• Shout out Joe Budden for finally giving up on Nicki (“You lost Joe Budden, guess you’ve lost it all!” – Mecca, 80:25).
• Classic Twitter humor throughout, culminating in more shout-outs to Raymonte.

10. Outro & Patreon Updates

[82:06–84:58]

• Updates for Patreon subscribers: exclusive “sidebar” episodes, more “screwball” content, “Slumber Party” mini-series.
• Plans for improving content scheduling and listener engagement in the new year.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On Parenting Glow-Up:

• “That’s how I know we grown… It used to be, ‘Oh, you have a kid?’ Now it’s, ‘Oh, you don’t have a kid?’”
  – Mecca, 05:28

On Social Media Beef:

• “At the end of the day, I’m working… nothing that y’all said stick, I never did give a fuck!”
  – Jamila, 19:08

On Creative Growth:

• “One thousand no’s—on your way to that, how many yeses do you get?”
  – Mecca, 27:24

On The ‘Wicked’ Reimagining:

• “We could have a Wicked version of The Wiz. Go ahead and blackify that too.”
  – Jamila, 35:23

Iconic Casting Notes:

• “It has to be a 40-year-old woman playing Dorothy. We have to maintain the continuity and brand integrity!”
  – Mecca, 38:49

Listener Letter Reaction:

• “You’re greedy. You’re a greedy-ass bitch…get your bitch quota up, go do some work!”
  – Mecca [in response to the side-piece-turned-sister-wife letter], 66:01

On Nicki Minaj:

• “You got your black ass up on that Turning Point USA stage and made a complete fool out of yourself… for some white folks who don’t give a fuck about your black ass!”
  – Jamila, 68:14

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Co-Parenting, Work/Life Balance: 01:15–06:00
• Parenting in Creative Work: 08:56–12:47
• 2025 Career Highlights: 13:49–19:08
• Social Media Fame/Backlash: 19:41–22:05
• Creative Ambitions (Stand-Up/Acting): 22:21–30:46
• Set Life Discussion & Black Wicked Pitch Start: 34:29
• Full Black Wicked Re-Imagined Cast: 35:23–44:55
• Directors for Black Wicked: 47:42–48:37
• Spin It (Listener Letter/PR Advice): 50:42–61:14
• Screwball (Nicki Minaj/Barbs): 66:45–80:22
• Outro/Patreon/Announcements: 82:06–84:58

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Episode Tone & Style

The tone is wild, irreverent, and unfiltered—equal parts group chat, Twitter thread, and best-friend banter. Both hosts slide between introspection, drag, and high-key stanning, aiming true at the heart of the culture they cover. Their humor is sharp, their references deeply internet- and Black culture-inflected, and their rapport effortless.

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For First-Time Listeners

This episode is a crash course in zillenial Black pop culture commentary and digital-era mess. From candid stories about co-parenting and influencer life to speculative musicals and scathing hot takes on celebrity controversies, Jamila & Mecca are at their most entertaining, insightful, and unfiltered. Whether you’re here for the PR spins, the career glow-up stories, or the sheer chaos of envisioning “Wicked” with a bust-down middle part, you’ll leave with plenty to laugh about—and maybe a few new Twitter follows.

Transcript

[A]

I am your host, Stassi Schroeder. Welcome to Tell Me Lies, the official podcast. What's the most unhinged thing of season three?

[B]

Steven. Because he's so evil, I do think he is misunderstood.

[A]

You see everyone face consequences.

[B]

It's intoxicating.

[A]

The writers just know how to trick ya. There's always a twist in this show. It's nothing you would expect. Tell Me Lies, the official podcast, January 6th. And stream the new season of Tell Me Lies January 13th on Hulu and Hulu on Disney. She flowing in that cash talk in the booth like Naomi on the catwalk and tell them, woo woo from the Jaguar. It ain't even right, though. Push me and I might go, she ain't getting money. I'm like, what the the hype for when the bitches bite flow make my appetite go poof. Gone. Voila. Magic looking mad good just to pull up on them ramping. What's up, y'?

[B]

All?

[A]

Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged and Immoral. I'm Jameela.

[B]

And I'm Mecca. Welcome back.

[A]

Welcome back, y'. All see we're at the OG Setting back at home. Back in front of our wallpaper. Yeah. Shout out to Francesca for the. For the hookup, but I'm turning you up real quick.

[B]

Shout out. Shout out. Shout out. It is a Monday. Like, we are really back to old times. Not that y' all would know this, but, like, this is something that we know. We're recording on Monday. And I went out last night, so I'm a little. Oh, yeah, I did. I didn't go out my old out last night.

[A]

Yesterday was Sunday. Where'd you go?

[B]

I went to bar 5015. I went to Faces the New Adore, and then I went to D Bar, which is. I had to leave. Like, I left my friends because I said, oh, I have to record in the morning. And I'm actually really up. I got on Tik Tok and was mouth harassing a Jack in the Box burger behind music, calling some white bot a white hoe on tik.

[A]

Were you on live?

[B]

No, I actually have the video. The video is all of, like, 30 seconds me saying, you white hoe while eating a burger. It's hilarious. I can't believe it. Me and my Jack in the Box with my Hispanic hot sauce.

[A]

Like, go to bed. You should have known then it was time to go to the bed because.

[B]

When I woke up and Sierra.

[A]

Sierra likes eggs.

[B]

Shout out to Sierra. Sierra was like, yo, you're the funniest bitch Alive. That's what I woke up to. I said, oh my God, y', all. Y'. All. Anyway. Shout out to the white hos.

[A]

Shout out to the white hos. Shout out to the white hos. What did I do yesterday? Yesterday was Sunday. Oh, I recorded at Jay's podcast.

[B]

And then. Okay.

[A]

I usually. I'm starting to develop a little bit of a routine, which is great cuz I know my just. I don't know, my days just be all over the place. But for now, my little routine is I go over there Sunday morning, we record at 11, and then after that I usually just stay at his house a little bit longer and then I just get work done. Like he'll be editing, I'll be editing. Janae sometimes be there with her son, his daughter be running around. Well, Janae was out of town.

[B]

Do Noah would be there.

[A]

No, I was gonna say that on the weekends.

[B]

Oh. Otherwise, if you did have Noah, that's like a really good work environment.

[A]

Yeah. Bring your kids to work to bring him. It was. It would be fine. Like it kind of just. It's. It hasn't. Like this is only like a cup. We've only are a couple weeks in, so it's kind of like still kind developing some type of routine. But as of now, it makes the most sense for Noah to not be with me on the weekends because I usually have a lot of events or just stuff popping up. So that's kind of how. How we've been rolling. And then I'll usually get him either Sunday evening or if Noah's dad has him, he'll take him to school Monday like he did today, and then I'll just pick him up Monday after school. So it's.

[B]

You know, you just, just do the co parenting thing. That's what day is for the other parent.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yes. Have y' all ever heard us talk about Jameela Beatty? Because that's how she. Mm. It's just so funny. Serious face. Yes.

[A]

Well, shout out to everyone.

[B]

Being able to bring their. I can't take this to serious. It was an instant. No. You wanna know why this is funny? Because my mom was the same way. Instant slant face when your daddy come up. But like, you know what I mean? I don't instant.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But shout out to all the co parents out there and shout out to Jay for creating an environment that is kid friendly. We love. We love an environment where you can bring kids and get your work done. Cause people be having kids, bro.

[A]

People be having kids.

[B]

I say this as a childless person. But what I learned when I was taking care of little moms is that, oh, be having, like, people be having children.

[A]

People be having kids. And, like, it's. It's way more normal than you realize. Like, I've met so many people more recently that just have children. I'm like, oh, okay. Like, I'm not the only one with a kid. Like, that's so not.

[B]

That's how I know we grown. That's how I know we grown for real. There was a point in time where Jamila was the only person I knew with a kid. And now Jamila is one of the so many people I know with kids. So that's why I'm like, that's how I know I'm grown as. Because it's like, oh, you don't have a kid. Is the. Oh, my God, you're weird. Like, oh, you don't have a kid.

[A]

Yeah, so many people.

[B]

So it's so weird. That's, like, the way people act about kids sometimes.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

It's so strange, like, because everybody has.

[A]

Kids, it's also just not that deep to me. Like, yeah, like, I. Obviously, I think everyone understands kids are, like, at base level, annoying, like, because they're kids and they don't know what the fuck is going on. But, like, when people have a, like, visceral disdain for children, like, they. And like, I. I was just having this conversation with a certain someone last night.

[B]

It's a bug. I'm going through so much. I'm damaged. I'm still drunk. Clearly.

[A]

Yeah, I was talking to a certain fellow last night and. Crazy question. You know, I never disclose my dealings, and we were just talking about how, like, sometimes it's when people randomly talk about, like, the way in which they talk about kids, it'll kind of make you look at them a little funny.

[B]

Like, yeah, that was icky.

[A]

Like, why did you say that?

[B]

That was strange? Why'd you say that like that? Yeah, no, I. I don't know. It's just not. It's not normal to me, especially people who are, like, older but don't have kids. I. I don't mind being childless. Like, in terms of you don't want to have children or you. You've decided that's not the path for you. Like, I respect that. I. I do think we need more childless people. It shouldn't be something that is, like, thrusted upon you just because it's a societal, like, expectation. But I also think on the flip hand, since it is a very natural part of Life. You can't be, like, acting like a dickhead and like, oh, kids, like. And I completely understand the critique of, like, bad children. Like, like, whatever. Like, there. There can be critique of how people are raising their kids. But I do think sometimes, especially, like, as someone who doesn't have kids, you find yourself in spaces with other people who don't have kids, and the way that they speak about kids is just. It makes me very uncomfortable because it's like, oh, my God, do you hate children?

[A]

Yeah, they do.

[B]

Oh, my God. You're like the witch. Remember the witch and the book we used to read growing up? Who, like, eight children? I'm like, you're going to eat these kids, man.

[A]

They'd be so mad. Like, damn. But, yeah, you know, I'm glad I, you know, have a. A good crew of people to where it's like, even, like, sometimes Lou will hit me up and like, to do a skit or whatever, and he'd be like. Or I'll tell him, like, oh, I have. No, he's like, bring him.

[B]

Lou always has his daughter, though.

[A]

His daughter be around too. So it's like, that makes me feel more comfortable. And I technically, I usually prefer to kind of like, not do work with Noah, only because I know I'm not super attentive to him in that moment, but sometimes, you know what I'm saying? You gotta.

[B]

It is what it is.

[A]

Like, especially when we were prepping for Ladies Night, the concert that I was hosting, we had a rehearsal one day, just had to bring him, and it was at night, and you gonna bring him that snack, that water bottle and that iPad.

[B]

And he'd be out.

[A]

And he'd be out.

[B]

I grew up with the type of mom who took us everywhere. Like, my mom was the mom who. She had, like, a side business and all this type of stuff. So, like, I definitely grew up with, like, that. Like, we would go to meetings, we'd have our books and our snacks, and, like, we knew she was working. She like, okay, so don't bother me right now. I have to go in here for an hour. Blase, blase. I think it's really good for kids, actually to just see their parents working. There's a lot of stuff that I talk about now, like being an entrepreneur, that it. It was never out of the realm of possibility for me because I saw my mom doing it. So it's like, it's very good for children in that way. But I like. I like that, like, we have people around us who bring their kids because, like, to your point, Jay and Lou. Lou's daughter is always fudgeing around. She's so sweet. And I'm just like, I really like this because, you know, some people get so, like, oh, I can't bring them. It's like, no, this is your job. Like, you have to bring the baby. It's fine. It's fine. Like, you know how I be. I'd be talking to kids like they regular people. So. Hello. How was your day today?

[A]

What do you have going on?

[B]

Yeah, Jamila's son Noah has, like, a little raspy voice. He'd be like.

[A]

When he. He randomly tries to whisper, hey, hey. Like, what is that? Mind you, he's so loud. Like, he's. He's just such a character.

[B]

Watch him. To explain. The Airbnb situation was so funny. So for context, for the whole year, I've been staying at Jamila's house, but then this last time, I got an Airbnb, so. So I came. Like, I was there, but then I wasn't. And Noah was like. Like, he had the concept that I was in town, but I wasn't staying at the house. So he was like, so why aren't you here? It was just hella funny. I'm like, oh, you understand what's going on?

[A]

Like, help me understand.

[B]

Help me understand.

[A]

Where the hell you going? After you.

[B]

Yeah, like, I see your bag, right? I see the bags and the suitcases, but you're not. You're obviously not getting comfortable. What's going on between that and your dad be watching the podcast at their house? I know that because Noah will be like, oh, are you and are you and my mom going to work to talk? I'm like, you're so smart.

[A]

No, I'm really raising an Internet baby down. He'd be like, mommy, you better make a video.

[B]

Yeah. No, he literally knows. Guys, I was cracking up. He was like, oh, you and my mom are about to go talk. I said, how do you know that? He was like, papa on the screen.

[A]

I said, when it comes time for career day and I show up there with my tripod. Yeah, this.

[B]

Yeah, I've been in, sir.

[A]

Yay.

[B]

I talk.

[A]

I can't wait for that day. Like, yes, I'm gonna be showing up to the kids school with some Gucci sunglasses on a tripod and a camera. Like, yeah, so, hey, kiddos, I'm a YouTuber.

[B]

Do you want to hear something crazy.

[A]

That I know other parents are gonna be so irritated?

[B]

Like, yeah, this made me think of last night when I was walking through the club.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

And it was obviously some drunk man, but it made me laugh. Cause he was like, hey, that bitch is on the Internet. I was like, but he was talking to his homeboy. I didn't stop, but I was like, oh, my God. And then. And then the other nigga was like, oh, the Internet, bitch.

[A]

Like, they were just niggas.

[B]

And they kept throwing the bitch word around. And my friends were getting mad, but I was also lit at that point. I was like, they're literally drunk, and I'm drunk enough that this is funny. So when you said the other parents are gonna get so mad, and they're gonna be like, look at this. From the.

[A]

Casually throw out, though, be so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then when you. When you talk to.

[B]

When you say. When you check them, though, they will like, oh, yeah, I heard you. Stop. Do you have. Stop. You know better.

[A]

Okay, so we're stepping into the new year, the new millennium, 2026. Now, full transparency, guys. Today is actually. So we're technically still in. We're talking to you from the past, so. But I. I mean, we're just. We're right there. We're just. We're kissing the new year, so I still think we can kind of, like, get into having.

[B]

We have two days left.

[A]

And, you know, you guys got to enjoy your favorite cousin Devin for the new year episode. So I'm. I know you guys really love that one, because that was just a good little. But this is gonna be like our official new year video where we can kind of wrap up our year, talk about some of those things. Things. Our, you know, favorite moments. We can also talk about, you know, what we're excited for the new year. All the things.

[B]

What was.

[A]

Would you say your highlight from last year, this year, 2025, was for you?

[B]

I feel like we had such a whirlwind year that it's. I have so many highlights. Like, I have a highlight reel. We got to do south by Southwest, which the hotel we stayed in was really fancy. It's just, like, I think experiencing things at, I guess an influencer level is what I'm trying to say, because I. I never sought out to be necessarily an influencer. I always was okay with, like, watching them, and then I make my videos. But I. I still. I have just, like, a regular vibe. I think that we had the red carpet rolled out for us and, like, a lot of different aspects this year that. My first time experiencing that. So even, like, though this is my second year essence, this is my first year as a speaker, first Year on a Essence stage. We got the red carpet rolled out for that, like the Urban League. It's just like a lot of different stuff where it was like we were the guests of honor and that showed was like. So it was really cool. It was really cool. And it's like all of that is like combined into one big experience for me because I'm like, I don't know, you know, to the woo woo manifestation point. You don't know exists in the way that it does until you experience it. Which is why I do think it's important to like watch things and see people who are living in a certain way. Because like I knew this stuff but then experiencing it is like so different.

[A]

Yeah, experiencing is definitely one of those things. Like, okay, like this is so doable.

[B]

Like, like Jamila and I started the year off when we would travel sharing rooms. And then now it's to the point where it's assumed like oh, you need to book a separate rooms. And that transition happened in like and.

[A]

Mind you, sharing rooms that we pay for.

[B]

That we paid for and are on TikTok arguing over the thermostat like cuz this sleep with that very cold. We're using Jamila's aunt's like points and shit. Like, like I feel like the jump was just happened so quickly that it was just like I can't like I appreciate everything as like all encompassing experiences and not just like one individual.

[A]

Yeah man, I, I feel like I was so spoiled this year that unfortunately I can't go backwards.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I unfortunately I don't want to sleep in the same room as Jamila. She keeps the thermostat on 63. It's cold.

[A]

Okay, now before, before we move past this goddamn thermostat. Full disclosure, guys. I do not Keep thermostat on 63. I am a modest 70. I actually am.

[B]

That's not true, Jamila.

[A]

It is true that one hotel room does not count. For some reason you were overly hot that trip and I. Or you were overly cold that trip and I was overly hot. But typically when I'm in my own house, I do actually whenever I go into a hotel room, the first thing, first thing I do is turn the AC off because it's always OD cold and I'm a knee. Right? But when I'm in bed at night, I like to turn the AC on because I like every bit of possible cover blanket on top of me so I can just be a snuggle bear. We already talked about me and my snuggle. My. My snuggle antics. So I needed to be a little brisk. We, like, breeze that way. Like, it hits my face every now and then so that I don't get hot. That's my.

[B]

I turn the AC off. I like for it to be, like, hot when you're. Cut the fucking. No.

[A]

God damn.

[B]

And when. When I be with the niggas, I do turn the AC on. It's the body heats specifically. But when I'm by myself, I like to be warm, guys. Like, I don't want to sleep in the Arctic, and. Yeah. Anyway, when we were at. I forgot what hotel we was at, but it was, like. When I walked in, it was, like, warm because the. The outside hallway was cold. And then I walked into my room, and it was warm. I was like, ah. Jamila would hate this room, but I love it.

[A]

Listen, it's. We. We definitely. We definitely had, like, quite the year. And if you're watching this now, then you've already seen my yearly recap video that I've been working so hard on and Jamila and her yearly recaps. Guys, I did. I was petty. I'm not going to lie.

[B]

You are. You're petty. That's good. Why not?

[A]

I was petty, and I was petty in the way that, like, I want to put things in full perspective. There were so many vile videos made about me.

[B]

We kept getting jumped last year that.

[A]

I never responded to. And.

[B]

And.

[A]

And y' all have to remember, at the end of the day, guys, I am a Gemini, okay? I am a daughter of Kendrick through and through. And so when I'm sitting back watching people, I'm talking about, talk, talk about me like a dog and turn me every which way with loose. And I am just at this point, getting whacked over the head because I ain't even saying back. And I'm like, you know what? It's okay. I have. I just kept telling myself, don't even. Don't even worry about it. It's cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I'm gonna let y' all go ahead. Have your moment. Have your moment. Have your moment. Because at the end of the day, I'm working. I'm working, and. And she's booked, and she's busy. Like, when I tell you nothing that y' all says stick, Like, I don't give a fuck. I never did, and I just had to. And the only thing about it is, in real life, I would like. Before all this shit popped off, I was known for arguing with people on Twitter. Because, like, I never let people get the last word. I like, bitch, I don't want you to be you.

[B]

You still be arguing folks on. You be pissing Twitter off.

[A]

But I have slowed down.

[B]

You know what's funny?

[A]

I keep it on a key, key level.

[B]

Let me tell you some. Twitter is an app that I don't enjoy at that level. Like, I feel like, TikTok. That's so crazy, because I would rather. I mean, I don't rather anything, but Twitter is just like. I'm just like, oh, I'm not doing this with y', all, too.

[A]

That's why I love Twitter, because I can tweet something so ridiculous and stupid and fun and mute the fucking tweet and everything.

[B]

And that's why muting, mind you, I.

[A]

Don'T even be knowing. People be cussing me out until I come back, and I'll be like, mind you, what's funny about Twitter is you'll casually scroll and you'll see somebody quote your tweet.

[B]

Quote your tweet, whooping their ass. I blow. Oh, damn.

[A]

When this happened?

[B]

When did this happen?

[A]

But on Twitter, the thing is, as an OG Twitterer.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

When you know the culture of Twitter, like, I am so not faced by Twitter. It's something like, TikTok is new for me, so it's something a little different about watching people make videos, talking shit about watching people tweet. I don't know. I'm used to, like, Twitter shit because it's like, y' all shut the fuck up. And when I tell you I don't give a fuck on Twitter, like, you.

[B]

Know what I think it is talking to? I existed on Twitter with such anonymity for so many years. Do you know, the thing is. And then it's like, my viral tweets were always, like, very well received, I think now in this past year, going to the spike. And the thing about Twitter is, like, once you hit over 20,000 followers, your tweets travel at a faster rate.

[A]

They.

[B]

They travel okay.

[A]

Yeah. And they could hit. Now you on the blog.

[B]

Now you on the blogs. Like, that's happened to both me and Jamila this year, where it was like, I've always had people who I followed and they had that experience, but, like, never myself. And so some of this stuff I just have had to readjust because I'm like, oh, my God, I can't just say anymore. Like, I used to be way more. I mean, in a general sense, with all my social media, I used to be way more off the Wall now it's like, is this gonna offend anyone? Like, I think a lot before I do things. But yeah, that's why the video from last night was so funny. Because, you know, it was the first time, obviously a long time that I didn't really think before I made a video and I'm just like, white ho. Yeah.

[A]

So I say all that to say I had a great freaking year. Oh, let me talk highlight. Honestly, the highlight of my year, truly, truly, truly, guys, is meeting Tisha Campbell. I'm never gonna let that fucking down. Are you kidding me?

[B]

You know what's CR about that? Jamila didn't speak. I've never really seen you speechless. And Tisha was just so funny in that moment.

[A]

Everything was funny about that. That was really, really cool to me because for the most part, all the other celebrities that I've met, I anticipated meeting them. So I kind of was like, well, actually I never even talked about this. Should I tell them?

[B]

I think you should, you should, you should say that for a little bit later.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Because that is such a good story that I just. That that's such like a standalone story, you see.

[A]

Yeah. I've always said I'm gonna keep that story for when I do that.

[B]

I was gonna say. But I was gonna say you, that needs to be for something else. Like, that's a good story. No shade, y'. All.

[A]

Yeah, no shade. I love you guys down, but I'm going to save that good, juicy story for a stand up bit.

[B]

It was so much.

[A]

I'm getting into stand up.

[B]

How are you liking that? I feel like if I see you get into stand up, then I'll finally do it. I'm practicing in my room sometimes though.

[A]

Very difficult.

[B]

I know. That's why I haven't done it.

[A]

It's hard, but it's something that. Because it's difficult, it's pushing me to want to like, really get into it. So I've had two, like, stand up experiences. One, I did an open mic night, which is where it was at a place where specifically comedians go to like practice. So I felt more comfortable practicing there. And they go there to kind of like test out material and stuff like that. It was a three minute set. It was not bad, but it also wasn't good. But I think that's like to be expected. Your first stand up, whatever. So I have work. I went with Mel actually and I recorded it. I sent it to Kev on stage and I sent it to Tahir. I was like, I'm not sending this to anybody but comedians I like.

[B]

This is just so I just need.

[A]

The notes transparent and they sent me really, really, really good feedback so that I can like go back into the lab and work on it and kind of like, you know, reconfigure some stuff. And then my second standup experience, slightly different but still very much so, was when I hosted Ladies Night. I specifically curated my sets to be both stand up and performance because I wanted to test out being able to carry a stage with joke telling and not just hosting, not just introducing the acts. Especially because I had five to 10 minutes segments in between each act. So I needed to carry the stage. I was okay. This is, I'm. I want to curate this for me to be able to also kind of work on my craft. And honestly, a lot of it was improv as well, which was really cool. So I was really, I was really testing myself on different ways, like, bitch, can you be funny? Can you do improv? And I was performing with the band, like I was singing on stage and all the things. So that was really cool.

[B]

Unrelated, I don't know why, for me personally, like how you're saying you fit the stand up into your hosting gig, that doesn't scare me. But like just being like, oh, I just did stand up, that's like, oh my God, that's so scary.

[A]

It's so scary. I believe it. It's weird because I, I have been performing for so long. Like you would think that I would be comfortable on stage telling jokes, but there's something very. That's a different beast getting on stage and telling jokes. Like I've, I've. Me. When I was on stage for Ladies Night, I was more scared doing my stand up than singing like that. I've been singing forever. That's nothing like. And I'm just, I, I don't know. That's not serious. I don't know how to explain it. It's just, it's a weird thing. But I'm excited to get back into it. I really want to, I just want to iron out the craft before I actually, like, go ahead. Social media. It's not going to be something that y' all are just going to be like, come along with me while I do a stand up joke.

[B]

No, no, I kind of want to be decent.

[A]

Yeah, I really want to like work on it. Yeah. So that's, that's definitely something that you're getting into. I'm getting into.

[B]

I signed up for some acting classes in the same way that Jimmy was trying to do stand Up. I really want to lean into, like comedic acting. I think that. And again, shout out to Kev on stage, Kevin. Him giving us the opportunity with like safe space was. I always knew I wanted to do that. But I think one thing about it, once you do it, it's like, oh, this is completely like, I can do this. Like, it's just the. You need to do it. And so that's why Nike tells y' all to just go ahead and do it, because you can do it. So now for me personally, I want to, like, get better. I want to go on auditions. I saw this really cool, this series of TikTok videos where they were talking about this girl on Threads who said, Your goal for 20, 26 should be to get like a thousand no's. Because on the road to getting a perspective, you know, to. To getting a thousand no's, how many yeses are you gonna get? And so I saw several people making videos talking about how when they like, they literally give themselves goals of like, I need to get rejected from X X amount of times. And then it's like on your way to getting rejected, you get this and they're telling, and they're telling you what all the things that they got right. And so I was like, wow, that is such a good perspective. And especially like, as gearing up to start going on auditions and like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's a rejection based situation I need, right?

[A]

Like, I actually, that's part of the reason why I stopped acting or I, I stopped auditioning years ago because I was not, I just wasn't ready to continuously face the rejection. I was not in a mental state where that was conducive to me. I was like, I'm gonna take a pause from doing auditions and I'm going to kind of redirect myself into doing my own stuff because I wanted to get the practice in. I wanted to actually do the things. And I felt like, well, nobody is. Nobody's accepting me. You guys want to know some lore about me?

[B]

What?

[A]

I auditioned for Empire.

[B]

Oh, I did not know that. What, what role did you audition for?

[A]

It was an open role. So they had open auditions and it was. They didn't disclose what it was for, but it was for, I assume, one of the people who were going to be signed to Empire, like one of the singers who were going to be signed onto the Empire, like, label and. Because, I mean, of course it was a singing show, so.

[B]

But yeah, you want to know what I auditioned for.

[A]

P. Valley.

[B]

No, I Wish I had. I wish. I wish I was there. I auditioned for Sunny with a Chance on Disney Channel.

[A]

I'm crying. When.

[B]

Oh, when was that? 2007. It was so long ago.

[A]

That is funny as well.

[B]

They literally had. What is this? They did. I believe they did, like, an open situation. And it was. When I was auditioning for it, I knew it was Demi Lovato Show. They didn't. It didn't even have a title. It just said Demi Lovato's new show. And I auditioned for it, and I was like, wow, that's insane. That's. That's a piece of lore I never shared. That's what I'm saying. And I feel like I didn't expect to, like, get it, but I was like, that would be so cool. But my mom wasn't into, like, the child star. She was like, this will send you down a path of drug use.

[A]

So she ain't lying.

[B]

She was like, yeah, no, we're doing this so that you can check it off your bucket list and you feel supported, but this isn't going to be a thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, yeah. But now I want to get back into the auditions. I feel really, like, confident in myself, but I want to do it much to your point, how you want to do it, right? Like, I want to take acting classes. I want to. I just look at how well we did on Safe Space, and that was, like, no training, no nothing. I'm looking at audience reception, and I'm like, yo, imagine if I actually tried. I wasn't trying.

[A]

It was like. It felt really good to. To. To be on a set in that way and get back into, like, just acting.

[B]

I had. I can't stress enough, y', all how much fun filming that was as well.

[A]

It was so much. We were.

[B]

I didn't even realize we were on set for, like, eight hours because. Because we were having so much fun the entire time. So if every. And I don't assume every set's going to be like that, but hopefully, fingers crossed, most of the ones that I.

[A]

Am are like, that sets are, like, so. What's the word? Unethically fun. That, like, you'll never. I just. I enjoy it so much, and it's. So you have to be a certain level of crazy to be in the entertainment industry. And I. I keep letting you guys know that because I want you to understand you have to be a little psychotic to be in entertainment. Like, and I mean, that's from music to acting, theater to all of this shit. Like, you got to be A little cuckoo. And again, I say, this is why I never batted my eyes at Ariana and Cynthia being kissed.

[B]

They were just like, oh, my God.

[A]

They're just literally about. That was alarming to me.

[B]

I wasn't alarmed. What I'm more alarmed at is obviously how crazily thin they've gotten, but, like, the behavior of it all. Behavior was the most normal part of not crazy. You've never been on a set. I was like, the problem is they've been in, like, this bubble for, like, years. At this point, they're going on four years. Typically, when you're on a cast for months, it gets weird. Okay?

[A]

Like, and, like, you just become. Those are your best friends in life that you've. Like, you. You've never met anyone else before. Those are your best friends. You guys do everything together. We'll drink each other's bath water. Like, you guys, like, no one knows the things that you've been through. You've stayed up for 14 hours with this person going through lines, and then when it's over, you stay in that bubble for a little while, and then one day the bubble pops and you're like, oh, I know.

[B]

What's so crazy about it? I'm still Facebook friends with, like, all the people I did plays with at Hampton. And it's so. It's weird in the way of, like, obviously I'm out of the bubble, but I still feel like, no, these are, like. These are, like, very. We had experiences together.

[A]

I will never forget you, my people.

[B]

I won't forget you. There's someone at Hampton to the point where, like, I hit. Me and his brother are active Facebook friends because I was in. I was in the play with him. Does that make sense? But I didn't really speak to his brother at Hampton, but, like, there we all. I always just kind of saw him in passing, but he was such in the bubble of what was that one wild and crazy night that it was like, somehow we are now connect. Like, it's just like, I don't know. Cynthia and Ariana are not that crazy, y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

I swear they're not that crazy.

[A]

Light work, no reaction.

[B]

Honestly.

[A]

Honestly, I expected nothing less, As a matter of fact, that let me know it was gonna be a great flick. I said, ah, wonderful.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

I'm excited. Or have you seen the second one?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I haven't went to see it yet. Did you like it?

[A]

Oh, I know a few people I guess, say that didn't. Didn't like it, but I know, like, just Typically, the second act is not as popular as the first, which I can understand. But I still thought it was done very, very well.

[B]

I felt like I didn't see as. You know, again, with the first one, they always spend so much time rolling it out. Like they were on their rollout tour for a year. So it was like I felt like with the second one, obviously I didn't see as much.

[A]

Yeah, I think they kind of relied on the sex of the success of the first one is kind of like to take us through. It's like. And then also I already know they spent most of their budget on the first. So it's like the. The success from the first one did a lot of the legwork, which, I mean, they still did really well in the box office for that. That second. Second movie.

[B]

So, I mean, yeah, they did what.

[A]

They needed to do. I really enjoyed it though. And mind you, I've. I've never seen the wizard of Oz to this day. So imagine me watching Wicked. Mind you, I've also never really seen. But you've seen the Wiz, so you.

[B]

Know the plot line.

[A]

And here's the. And that's what's funny about it because the Wiz is also very different from the wizard of Oz. It is.

[B]

No, no, no. So as I'm watching Base, but. No, no, no. It's very different, but the base is the same.

[A]

I'm putting my Wiz cap on. Watching this is like. It's like, oh, so that's Evelyn. Okay. Like, that's like.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

So that part was Evileen. Right? That's what made it so much funnier because I was like, oh, like, so Evelyn ain't dead.

[B]

Like no bad news.

[A]

Can I just say no shade. We could have a Wicked version of the Wiz. Like, go ahead and black if I. That too.

[B]

I'm sorry, yo. I'm surprised no one has done it quite yet.

[A]

That would be like. Imagine Evelyn getting her like, story arc, bruh.

[B]

Like, because she was so evil in the. What? I will say I felt like Evelyn.

[A]

Evelyn was.

[B]

I don't know, she just seems so much worse than the Wicked Witch.

[A]

They made that me like she was evil in real life. That wasn't even a joke. Okay, so she wasn't really evil. I don't know. Evelyn seemed like she was mean.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

I feel like in the original wizard of Oz you could believe Wicked they would have to add so much lore to Eviline to make her a sympathetic character. They would have to add some crazy trauma. Like she got exactly abused and all type of. No, Evelyn Black, you know, real like, where's Tyler Perry at? We need all the trauma to make Evelyn sympathetic. Please. I'm dead. The. But that would eat. That would eat. Because one thing about it.

[A]

On the phone, stat.

[B]

Listen, that would actually eat, though, now that we're really.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

Now that we're really talking through it. Wicked version of the Wiz.

[A]

Hey, call me. I got some ideas. Is y'. All.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

In the musical direction.

[B]

The.

[A]

The.

[B]

The mom needs to be like Mo' Nique and Precious, though, to really get it off. Yeah. And then her sister dies in front of her. Yeah, yeah, we need that.

[A]

I do want that black trauma porn. Thank you.

[B]

Yeah, thank you. Black trauma.

[A]

Wicked. Wicked. What she say? Madam Marvel. Flip it around. That cracks me up every time. Flip it around. Wicked witch.

[B]

W's up? Dang. Now you really got me thinking. Michael's not here. Well, everyone's dead except for Diana Ross, to be honest.

[A]

Yeah. No, it would have to be a new. It would. There's no way they could use the same character.

[B]

Yeah, no, obviously they would have to.

[A]

But we would need to do.

[B]

It has to be singing, obviously. Again, but it has to be singing.

[A]

Yeah. And I. I have someone who could do the musical direction. Since we no longer have Quincy Jones, we do have John Baptiste, who is also a musical prodigy. Absolutely. Yes, he is. He is very talented. He's. He's. He is. I feel like our generations. Quincy, no shade. He could absolutely do that shit. John Baptiste.

[B]

Call me.

[A]

I got some. Come on now. Put you to work. Evelyn needs some.

[B]

Some music. She needs some. Really. And she would have to be such a. She would have to be. Literally be a Cynthia O'Reville type singer. Like, she would have to be someone who could sing. Down.

[A]

Yes, down, down.

[B]

Oh, this is good. This is good, this is good. This is good.

[A]

And just.

[B]

Just so that know it's supposed to be the Wiz. It has to be a 40 year old woman playing Dorothy. It cannot be a teenager.

[A]

We have to maintain.

[B]

We have to maintain the continuity and brand integrity and short fro. Short fro. Clearly over 35.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, even though we all know Dorothy's a teenager, it has to be a very clearly grown woman.

[A]

If we're gonna go there, we're gonna.

[B]

We have to maintain brand integrity.

[A]

Exactly. Someone who is ridiculous to play the wizard as well, because it was Richard.

[B]

Pryor in the Wiz who could.

[A]

So he's someone just as Kooky.

[B]

Maybe Eddie Murphy, this is your turn. Oh, no. Marlon Waynens would eat. No, I was gonna say Eddie Murphy.

[A]

Because he's kooky and.

[B]

No, but Marlon Waynens. Eat that.

[A]

Yo, yo.

[B]

He's really unhinged yet. Wait, Jamila, let's cast our Wicked Wiz right now. So we have Marlon as the wizard.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

Okay. Madame Marvel, do you think Jennifer Lewis. Oh, just because I feel like if we're going to nigga it up, right?

[A]

That could be good. She. She can play a good. Either her or Lynn Whitfield.

[B]

I was. I said we need someone who's comically evil. We know it's unseen, but they always play like evil. Actually, I'm gonna. Jennifer. Ms. Jennifer, I'm gonna bring you back. I'm gonna give it to Lynn Winfield because it needs to be someone who.

[A]

She can play an old nasty, nasty wicked witch.

[B]

You see what I'm saying? Yes. Okay. So comically old as Dorothy.

[A]

But, you know, in Wicked, they didn't even show her face, so it just. That could be it.

[B]

No, but it has to be a flat. Or maybe someone's hands. Very obviously grown woman hands. I need. I need that gag. I'm sorry. I need it. Scarecrow, Follow me. The young man who was in Sinners.

[A]

Ooh. Miles.

[B]

Miles. He's. Because Michael was really young when he did that role, and I would. I think it would need to be someone, you know, like a sweet, precious baby.

[A]

And he's also a prodigy. Yes, he is. He's so good.

[B]

He's got a little deep voice, but I think that he could do that. He's on down the road. I. I could see him eating that up.

[A]

Yes. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. For the Tin man, you know, in.

[A]

The Wicked Witch, the part two, the scarecrow is the prince. She turned, and that's what gagged me, because I was like, this is not. Oh, yeah, he's the. The wiki. I was like, oh. And what I learned. Pause on our casting. What I learned is that even though Wicked is based in the wizard of Oz universe, those are two completely different stories, actually.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So. Because when they showed how the dude became ten men and Scarecrow, I was like, what the. That's not what the. Happened in Whiz. So now. Yeah, that, like, so whoever Miles. So whoever the scarecrow is, he would.

[B]

Have to be the prince into.

[A]

So he was gonna be. He was gonna marry Glenn.

[B]

Glenda.

[A]

Yeah, But I'm still cool with Miles, though.

[B]

Okay. Wait. Who would be Glenda, though?

[A]

We could go Halle Bear. Not Halle Bear Halle Bay. Because she has that.

[B]

She has a whimsical voice. That would be good. But then who would be Elphaba? I don't.

[A]

This is when it gets.

[B]

I was gonna say Elphaba. I can't think of.

[A]

We need a screamer. We need a screamer. But, like, in a way, right, There are not a lot of.

[B]

There are not enough that. Because the biracial R B is taking.

[A]

Over, there is a young lady who has a phenomenal voice who I think could. Could do something with this role. Who? Samara Joy.

[B]

Yes, the jazz singer. She's very pretty.

[A]

She is. Oh, and that voice, because I've heard her do some things with it. Like, yeah, her register is amazing. And I think that she can give us a old, nasty Elphaba. Oh, and I think in contrast to her voice and Halle's. Oh, yes, yes.

[B]

I actually like that. I like that. I like that.

[A]

I need this now, guys.

[B]

So the thing is. And this is just like a aesthetic choice, I think, since they already did Elphaba with the micros in the Wicked. In our Nigga Wiz version, Elphaba has to have a bust down. Like, I just don't. Because it's like. I don't. The braids were already done.

[A]

And a bust down is at its switch.

[B]

It up is so black. Like.

[A]

And then we got Halle with her locks.

[B]

Locks.

[A]

You see what I'm saying? We getting the basis coverage.

[B]

Yeah, we need that. We need that. Morticia. Middle part. Bust down for Elphaba. Seriously. Okay. The. Well, Bach became the scarecrow. Am I correct?

[A]

Who was Bach?

[B]

The Ariana stole, I believe.

[A]

Well, I thought we said miles.

[B]

Oh, I'm sorry. Bach was the prince. No, no. Who did Ethan play? Ugly.

[A]

That ugly white boy?

[B]

Yeah. Who Ariana took?

[A]

Yes. Oh, he.

[B]

Was. He got turned into the tin man on accident. Okay, so.

[A]

And he needs to have, like, a voice. Jacques.

[B]

No way.

[A]

Jacques. Yes. We're gonna have Jacquees play the tip man.

[B]

But can Jacquis act?

[A]

I don't know. This is your chance to prove it to us. Jacquees. Jacques.

[B]

Is it Jacquis or Jacquees?

[A]

I think it's Quee. Because then he do the qui mix. I don't know.

[B]

I thought you were gonna say he was queefing. But.

[A]

He did the.

[B]

No. Well, okay, yeah, let's. I don't want it to be Jacques because I don't know if he can.

[A]

Act so a little bit more serious. Okay.

[B]

But the E. He could sing, though. And we definitely need singers. Maybe it could be.

[A]

It was such a quick role. That's why I'm like. It might.

[B]

Yeah. No, no, actually, actually I lied because.

[A]

I have faith in you, Jacques.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you know what it is?

[B]

You need to be able to sing really good for to be in like the Wicked movies. I feel like the singing matters more than the acting. It's one of those situations. It's so much song and dance and he can sing. Okay. The lion.

[A]

The lion. And mind you, the lion was just the lion. That, that was never even a human. He was a lion from the whole. Yes, but who's his voice? So that's really just voice alone.

[B]

Samuel L. Jackson.

[A]

No, Samuel can be Professor Goat. Oh, he could be.

[B]

I'm just saying because he has such like a recognizable voice. Yes.

[A]

I feel like the goat had more lines, so maybe he could be the goat.

[B]

And for the lion. Let's do, let's do Michael B. Jordan.

[A]

Oh, I was gonna say Tracy Morgan because he has such a goofy voice actually.

[B]

I like that.

[A]

You follow me?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yes or no? He's annoying. Never mind. Oh, I was gonna say Chris Rock, but he's overly annoying.

[A]

It's a little too distinct for me.

[B]

Yeah. Yes. It has to be a Tracy.

[A]

Okay, who gonna play that little sister who gonna die. Wheelchair bound Only in Wicked or is that like a part of like only in Wicked?

[B]

No, she doesn't necessarily.

[A]

She doesn't necessarily have to be in the wheelchair. I don't even know no black wheelchair bound ladies that sing, if I'm being frank.

[B]

Oh, cuz she. That real actress is actually in a wheelchair. Okay.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So I'm like, that is important.

[A]

But I don't know.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

What if we brought back the baby who played her to play adult her?

[A]

Ah, how long we taking to make this movie? She. She's still a baby that maybe got to grow up quick. Hurry up, LA girl. We trying to make this movie in. In a couple of years. Little girl.

[B]

Please. No, I don't really.

[A]

I don't remember her really singing though for she.

[B]

She has like and back.

[A]

Remember that?

[B]

Remember that.

[A]

I want to see you.

[B]

She just has a couple of lines. She has a one. So it's not anything crazy. If you guys know any handicap actresses black, who we can cast? Yes, the Wiz version. Did we cover everyone?

[A]

I think we covered all the main characters for sure.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

Period.

[B]

That was good.

[A]

Lee Daniels, you're gonna be in charge of the direction I need. Who Did I say you want Lee Daniels? Yes, I want Lee.

[B]

I feel like I kind of want to see what Ryan Coogler would bring to it.

[A]

Oh, Ryan would make that shit so good. He'd take the Reed.

[B]

Ryan and his wife. Because he always says his wife is like, I think her name's Zizi. I don't. Don't quote me on that. But he always says she's the one who brings in like the little details. Like, in terms of like dynamic. Yeah. Smoke and stack, the red and blue. Like, there are so many post sinners little things that I found out, like just detail. And this is the thing that needs detail. Not only detail, but detail.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

That sinners had that.

[A]

It was like Ryan could definitely.

[B]

This is for Degas.

[A]

Ryan could do a great job.

[B]

Because, you know, last. Last movie we got from Lee Daniels was the. With Glenn Close as the white woman and said, every black community has a asymmetrical Bob. Glenn Close. What was her name? Every. Every community has a nappy pussy.

[A]

I said, you know what?

[B]

Why would you make Glenn Close say that you're not going to heaven?

[A]

I said, okay. I was. Nothing could have prepared me.

[B]

You know what's so crazy? You know, Glenn is. She's so much. She's so old that she just doing shit. She's just like, I ain't never did.

[A]

Nothing like this before. I can smell your nappy pussy, bitch.

[B]

And I know those words should never.

[A]

Come out of a white bitch mouth again. I'll tell you that much, though. I tell you that much.

[B]

White ho. White ho.

[A]

God damn. All right, so okay, that's our black we. Black wicked we is whatever the down the road, make that shake. I need good music and all the things, period.

[B]

All right, well, you want to spin it? Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

While Jamila's pulling up the spin, let me give you guys our intro. It's been a minute since I've done this, so I'm a little rest.

[A]

But this is our segment.

[B]

Spin it where you send us your gutter snipe, low down dirty, shameful, messy situations. And we give you a PR spin in addition to a little bit of advice. Now do keep in mind, Jamila and I are not PR professionals. We just studied in undergrad. Now when you send this to us, send it to at unhinged anymore pod gmail.com. do not forget to send your age, your genders, your sexual orientations, your political ideologies and affiliations. Men, you absolutely do need to send your height. Okay? And yeah, you're racist. I Although I do kind of assume everyone who listens to this is black. I know not everyone's black, so go ahead and send that as well. Jamila, what do you have for us this week?

[A]

Buckle up everybody. Hi, Megan. Jamila, I'm a 27 year old black woman from North Carolina. Hey, I need your help, but also need y' all to listen and not judge. Pretty please. Imma do my best.

[B]

Okay, wait, North Carolina, that's where Devin. No, I was gonna say the other girl from TikTok who stole that lady. Man, it's only eight. It's only eight in North Carolina.

[A]

I will definitely do my. My best to not judge you. Yes. Here we go.

[B]

I can't make anything.

[A]

So I've been dealing with this man that I work with for over a year and a half now. It originally started just as a convenient fun time, but now there are some deeper feelings involved. We have those super deep long talks about the world and life and everything in between. He's super sweet towards me, gives me whatever I ask for. Our sexual chemistry is literally an out of body experience every single time. And our personalities and humor fits together like crazy. Here's my dilemma.

[B]

He's married. And that's why you said don't judge. Close your legs to married men. Oh, bitch. Boo. Girl.

[A]

Let me go ahead. Let me just finish.

[B]

Jamila.

[A]

Let me find where I was. Been with his wife for 10 years, but only very recently. Put a ring on it like a few months before meeting me. Now, he's never been faithful, but she's never found out about his infidelities. He doesn't hide me necessarily. We've been out together with a friend of his and he's been around my friends and a few and a few close co workers of ours knows about the relationship we have. His wife is beautiful and bisexual, as am I. And though we don't talk about her often, when we do, it's usually me asking random questions about her and their dynamics or him telling me about what she's mad at him for. I'm not jealous and I don't want to take him away from his wife and children.

[B]

He has kid. Why would you bury that? You gotta leave with that.

[A]

But I do Lowkey want him to be a part.

[B]

Hold on.

[A]

But I do Lowkey want to be a part of their family.

[B]

Oh, you're crazy. What?

[A]

Excuse me? Oh, so in the beginning when you said don't judge me, please, I'm gonna let you know that's out the window.

[B]

That I told you I Was gonna judge, but I couldn't even guess this girl.

[A]

This is something he says he wants as well, but it's unchartered territory. He doesn't know how his wife might feel about it or even how to bring it up. We almost met once at an event we both were planning on attending. But I didn't like the idea of meeting her face to face, knowing what we had been doing and that she was unaware. I'm trifling, but not that trifling. If we manage to ever have conversation.

[B]

With a married man and she does.

[A]

Accept it, is it already too messy knowing we have been messing around her back? Or is it a whoop dee doo because she's okay with that dynamic? I'm not a monogamous woman. After many years of trial and error, I just don't see it in my future. And I really do have deep feelings for this man that I know he shares. But I also know he loves her too. Sounds fucked up, but I've loved multiple people at one time too, because it is. So am I the judge? You know, in my mind, if she's cool with it, I can help with the bills, the house, the kids. I'd want to actually be a part of the family and make them a part of mine as well. I definitely don't see myself being a side piece forever. So I keep my options open in case it doesn't ever happen. But I don't want to separate myself from him either. So sorry. I know this might be long, but it had to come up off my chest.

[B]

I don't even know what to say.

[A]

So let me get this straight, sister. You've been talking to me. I do want to say.

[B]

I do want to say. I asked y' all to send y' all most y'.

[A]

All. You didn't. I did.

[B]

I asked for this. And so I'm not too mad. I'm. This is really messy, girl. This is. No, no, no.

[A]

You're trifling as.

[B]

But thank you so much.

[A]

Much. Thank you so much.

[B]

No, no, no. You literally made my. Made my day.

[A]

So let me. Let me.

[B]

Let me do a quick recap, like, rewind.

[A]

Then I'mma spin your ass.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So you met this at work? Cuz we forgot that piece.

[B]

It was so much. Cuz that's where I started. Why you someone you work with, but I couldn't even focus on that.

[A]

You.

[B]

Working.

[A]

You at work when you should be doing that work, should be typing on that computer, putting them shits away. You over there getting your. Your split Busted open. So you. That at work.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Who just so happens to be a married man. Y' all sneaking and geeking.

[B]

And he just got married to the wife a couple months ago.

[A]

They've been together of you basically saying that you don't want to be a part of a side piece type of dealing. You wanna come to him with the. And be a sister wife. So he's with it too, though.

[B]

That's.

[A]

He's with it. So I'm gonna tell you how to spin it, and then I'll read you your rights. Don't tell the wife that y' all have already been.

[B]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[A]

Why would you do that? The aesthetic. Since the wife is already bisexual, go ahead and let him introduce the idea. Say, hey, I think that we could use some help around the house with the kids. I. I'm really interested in opening up our marriage to a third person. Very. Given polygamy, you know, down. Like, let's really.

[B]

But then also have. Give the wife rights so that she feels like. Because what's gonna happen if. If the wife is anything like me, if a comes to me and says, I want to open up, up the marriage. And here's a. I already have in mind. I'm gonna assume you've been her.

[A]

Exactly. And so let her think that she has, you know, time to choose. And if he can say, you know, I have, you know, have a couple of ideas, maybe he give. Now, this is. This is really, really ridiculous, but follow me. You're gonna be in the lineup with two other that are not as t. As you. Yeah, follow me. So that it's giving the illusion of choice. Right. Or set up an event. Right. Or set up a meetup, like a little. A game night where he invites, you know, some.

[B]

Some mid.

[A]

Mid tier who ain't even really with it.

[B]

For real.

[A]

For real. Who ain't on that flirtatious tip. And then when y' all there, you start flirting with the wife. Don't even give that attention.

[B]

Yeah, right. So y'. All.

[A]

At a game night, you give the wife attention, you start flirting with her, and you build a relationship with the wife. That right?

[B]

Yeah. But you're still that on this side, obviously, because.

[A]

And you didn't allow luck. Exactly. You're a slut. And a. And it's okay. We don't judge sluts and whores. We do judge people who mess with married men, though. So what you're gonna do is you're going to swindle the wife. Right? You're gonna flirt with her yeah, Give her those slutty eyes that I know you have, right? You're gonna give her those slutty eyes and you're gonna want. You're gonna try to make the wife want to fuck you, right? Yeah. So then they've both cheated, so now you're even playing field. So then once that's happened, then you can really swindle the wife.

[B]

Really unethical.

[A]

And that's how you bring up the conversation of trying to be a part of the unit, right? So that's what you do. That's how you get in that. Because if you let.

[B]

If.

[A]

If you tell that wife that y' all been hunching beforehand, she gonna want to whoop your ass. Just cuz. Cuz you trifling. You ain't have to do that behind your back. If. If the is bisexual and this want a sister wife, then y' all should have just had that conversation first. But you want to be all hunting and busting. So now in order to not get your ass, you got the lie, scheme and scheme and lie.

[B]

But she was doing that anyway because you American.

[A]

So I know you don't care about continuing the lie because you said, I want to be a part of that family by any means, and that better be fine. And got good dick for you to be all up all this. You can't let that go. So he best be good.

[B]

What in the Tim and Bernays.

[A]

I want to help raise the kids and all. Damn. I never heard somebody beg to raise somebody else kids.

[B]

Well, I have. I'll be on that side of TikTok. Oh, brother, just.

[A]

It's trifling.

[B]

What is going on in North Carolina. Y' all got Brene and them. And y' all just fuck married men in North. It's eight niggas in North Carolina.

[A]

It's plot twist, plot twist. This is Brene Whiteness.

[B]

Bro. This is the exact story.

[A]

Brene, get your ass out of nowhere.

[B]

You got $2 million to pay. Get the fuck out of our DMs, bitch. The hell. What the hell is going on in North Carolina? What did I tell y'? All? I told y' all it's only eight in North Carolina. I can't look. Clearly, it's only eight niggas.

[A]

Y' all got to get out of North Carolina. Cause clearly it's a scarcity of niggas that got y' all doing some crazy, crazy shit. Come to Atlanta. It's an abundance.

[B]

It's a lot of niggas in Houston. You ain't gotta fuck A married man. Now, sister, let me just read you. Cause Jameela gave you some very good PR advice that's gonna say.

[A]

Spin it.

[B]

You that woman. You eat that woman's cat until she can.

[A]

I mean, I mean. I mean, you give her the finger.

[B]

Eat combo and you stick your thumb in her butt. Okay.

[A]

What?

[B]

Future, say all the things you do all the things. Cuz. You want to be a part of that family, you need to.

[A]

You need to rock her world. She deserves.

[B]

Now let me tell you why you're trifling. What the do you mean, do? Do, do I. I want to be a part of her family? Does that not sound crazy to you?

[A]

That sound crazy as.

[B]

That sounds insane. Sister, you want to be a part of their family with their children.

[A]

We're not even.

[B]

We didn't even touch on. They. These people have children together, Aaron.

[A]

More than one.

[B]

You want to come in and help two people raise their kids as a sister wife?

[A]

Just so you can't. Just so you can't let the nigga go. Be clear. Because it ain't about them kids. It's about that new sister.

[B]

This is. We need.

[A]

You ain't that bisexual. No.

[B]

No.

[A]

You not just hung up by the. No.

[B]

You need to go talk to the lady. My sister and I don't even. This is not of Christ. I was gonna say my sister in Christ. This is not of Christ. Do you want to get up under them kids for that? That's. That's demonic. Oh, well, that's terrible. If I ever found out, I would have to put you in the ground, sister. That is what it is. I keep saying.

[A]

I don't know how Bernay got away.

[B]

With that for so long. Sacramento should have been the Dateline 2020 episode when. When she started making them children call her mommy. I said, oh, babes, we're gonna air that car out.

[A]

Actually.

[B]

We're actually gonna air that car out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, that's crazy. Sister, I get that you think that you love this married man and that you want to raise several children, which of whom are not your own because of this married man. I really feel like once you stop being diplomatized and get some self esteem and worth, you're going to realize. You're going to read this back in a couple years and realize how fucking insane this sounds. Sister, this is not serious.

[A]

You're not even being 90 serious right now.

[B]

She said 27. And you're too goddamn old.

[A]

You're so not serious. Once you like, stop. Stop having sex for a little bit. Like, get that Dick up out your throat real quick.

[B]

Stop. Stop having sex for a little bit.

[A]

And then you'll like. Because. Because when you. When you study a. That's. And it's really, really good, you do get confused. I'm not gonna lie. Like, yeah, do like. You do not live in a reality for a while. You were like, wait, it's really amazing. Do I, like, love him I so much. Only it was just a good in my ass.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Well, hold the on. It was what be trying to, like, make me be trying to soft launch what the she into on the low.

[B]

I got ain't slick. Cause what in my ass. That's. That's how crazy you sound. How I just said in my ass unprovoked. That's how insane you sound.

[A]

That just.

[B]

Is this putting in your ass? Because. What's going on?

[A]

I know this. Got a septum piercing. No shade.

[B]

You know you do.

[A]

This is septum activity. This is septum piercing activity.

[B]

Nipple piercings down.

[A]

Yeah, that got a piercing right at the top of her lip right here.

[B]

Very much them.

[A]

Who got a piercing right here.

[B]

Crystals, incense.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And vibes.

[A]

And she do not shade that coochie.

[B]

And she says she's poly.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, she has hairy pits.

[B]

I was gonna say. And you're either really cute or really not. It's no in between. It's no in between, baby.

[A]

Them pit know them pits.

[B]

One thing about them, and I'm specifically talking about the black polyamorous people. Cause white poly people, unfortunately, y' all are not beating. Y' all are not beating that. I've never seen one that was like, oh, I didn't know you were poly.

[A]

Like, I could tell. I could tell a black lady is poly off they eyes alone.

[B]

Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Black women who be poly, either be. I mean, they either be the baddest, baddest bitch on the floor. Yep, this is the baddest. Yeah. Either the baddest bitch you ever seen or like, yo, sister, just a tinge of mud. It's like, oh, sister, it's a little bit twanky.

[A]

Hey, hey. Using them lemons for deodorant, huh?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Erykah badu.

[A]

Yay. Come on, Dr. Sebi.

[B]

Alkaline water, nuts and berries. Well and shit. And now I kind of need to know what you look like. Because if you are on the other end of being like, one of the bad polyamorous, you finna piss me off even more. Cause you don't have to do this.

[A]

And I Feel like she is. I feel like she's on the. Yeah, I do. Because she don't give a.

[B]

And that you. Your fault.

[A]

I was like, yeah. Oh, this. No, you just don't give a. She gets yo cute ass. You get.

[B]

And that's why you pissing me off.

[A]

And you're greedy. You're a greedy ass bitch. You're a greedy ass bisexual. Cause you're bisexual and you're cute and poly and you're. You want this just for the strength of. You want this when you know you can have other people. Get out my face and go get you a couple more bitches.

[B]

You about to make me mad.

[A]

Now that we talk.

[B]

Get your bitch quota up the fuck. Get your cute ass out of here and go do some work.

[A]

Fucking just trifling. God damn stupid. That don't make no damn sense. You know, I know we were supposed to do this on, what do you call it, Our Patreon, but just to give everybody a sneak peek of Patreon. Can we do a screwball? Yeah, I have one. Who? Oh, okay. So let's do a screwball. So let me introduce y' all to screwball, cuz I want y' all to really tap into the Patreon so y' all can really understand like, you know, all the lore and things. Things. So we have a segment on Patreon, it's a Patreon exclusive called screw you where we give somebody screwball. It's very similar to like donkey of the day, right? So it's like somebody because it's unhinged.

[B]

Tomorrow and y' all are screw crew. So the screwball.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Screw you.

[A]

So it's basically something that we give to somebody or something or some group of people that we feel like was on some little. And we just need to read them fulfilled. And we have a few on there already. So if you guys are subscribed, if you guys are part of this group. We are. You already know work.

[B]

We carry in the flame.

[A]

When I say I be singing that, like I hate the Internet, bro.

[B]

I.

[A]

It's so ridiculous. But who I want to give the screwball today to is none other than who?

[B]

Nicki Minaj. Oh my God.

[A]

Because I'm sure by this time the bitch didn't did something else pull up in Atlanta.

[B]

But what did he say? Pull up in the locker room.

[A]

Pull up in the. Yeah, Nikki, come and get your baddies chain. You know what the. The funny thing is, none of this was unpredictable. It was all actually very predictable. But it was still disappointing. Nonetheless. You got your black ass up on that Turning Point USA stage and made a complaint complete fool out of yourself. Because not only was you shucking and driving and cooning for some white folks who don't give a about your black ass, but you also didn't say you was up there just rambling.

[B]

Shut up.

[A]

Talking about some dashing. I don't know. You weren't saying anything of nothing. You're just talking. And that's how I know she need.

[B]

To get on the We Are Charlie Kirk remix. And we are Charlie Kirk.

[A]

Like, girl, you're so embarrassing.

[B]

Harajuku Kirk. Harajuku Kirk.

[A]

Harajuku Kirk is crazy. My other favorite part about Nikki's crash out is the fact that she's blocking her stance.

[B]

I'm sorry. When she blocked Raymonte, I was crying.

[A]

When she blocked Raymonde.

[B]

And then when someone's like, yo, dumbass. And he was like, I'm a dumb. I'm a dumbass, stupid. I said, raymonte, please.

[A]

I said, damn. Cause mind you, Raymont, I ain't even say nothing crazy, bro. All he said was, what happened to my sweet little Nikki from Trinity? Mind you, I'll be going in on this. And she ain't. She ain't blocked me yet, so I feel like that's so mean. Like, Nikki, don't block them.

[B]

Block me.

[A]

That's so mean. They were so sad. But that is funny as. As soon to me, like, damn.

[B]

But yeah, like, I just have to say this. Raymonte is so funny on Twitter, Bruh Raymonte be happy. Because the thing is, y' all be cussing him out, and he just don't be giving a fuck. And he'll say something. It's just like the funniest Fremonte tweets be him responding to getting cussed out. Like, how he was like, shut the.

[A]

Fuck up, stupid bitch. He be like, you're not t. Shut up. Like, that shit be having me dead. Like, Bruh Raymonte is so fucking funny, bro. We be like, you're ugly.

[B]

Shut up.

[A]

Oh, my God. Cause it's like that shit is so simple but so effective.

[B]

I'm just saying the stuff he be saying. Don't even be no eloquent shit. Just be like, shut up, stupid bitch. Just be like, what? And I be laying in bed crying every time when they were talking about Raymonte blacks. And he's put Raymonte International or of course, like, so. It's so much Raymonte, Laura on Twitter, specifically, so much.

[A]

You have to follow Raymonte on Twitter.

[B]

Like, it's just so much.

[A]

TikTok is so, like, base level.

[B]

No, the thing I was gonna say, he's backed up off TikTok. He's not on TikTok the way he used to be.

[A]

You know nothing.

[B]

You only follow him on Tik Tok.

[A]

You have to follow.

[B]

Have to follow him on Twitter.

[A]

That is where the experience is. Follow the experience, babes.

[B]

I'm a Raymonte Black, unfortunately.

[A]

Raise your hand if you're a Raymonte Black.

[B]

So stupid. It's so stupid.

[A]

That's why it's funny.

[B]

Anyway, to Nicki Minaj, what did you feel when you looked into Erica Kirk's eyes? Have you seen the way the tweets of, like, a regular person? I miss my husband, Erica Kirk, and.

[A]

It'S like, got a firework out her asshole. Like, damn.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I know she killed that.

[B]

I'm sorry. Like, no, like, on a very serious note, your husband died very, like, like, tragically on camera, on tour. It's like. I mean, I get. And that's why it's so funny. I get everyone grieves differently, but God damn.

[A]

And it's like, I ain't seen them babies since that neck got popped. I don't know. I don't trust the. It's. It's.

[B]

It's, like, a little suspicious. Like, at first it is. At first I was like, okay. But then it's like. Like, she's channeling whatever this energy is, but now it's like, okay, this is crazy.

[A]

What's with. What is with them in the fireworks, though? Like, what is it with the pyrotechnics? Like, you can't.

[B]

You have to go talk to the.

[A]

Ladies and Peace to my. Without the pyro. Like, rest in peace to my.

[B]

She gonna have a pyro pop out her. Eventually.

[A]

No, literally, you know what?

[B]

You know what would eat. And I'm not trying to give them ideas. If they played We Are Charlie Kirk in the background, We're carrying the flame. I hate. I hate that I'm stuck in my head, bro.

[A]

White people are so.

[B]

No, that's what they want.

[A]

And you know what is crazy when.

[B]

You think about, like, there when we learned about the Gripper and they just wanted to meme this. I'm like, y' all killed this to make him a meme team. And that's insane. Y' all did it.

[A]

Y' all literally did it.

[B]

White people are evil, man.

[A]

They're crazy.

[B]

Y' all even evil to each other.

[A]

Hey, let Me stay out of.

[B]

They like, y' all are evil. My God.

[A]

Yeah. My goddamn. Wait.

[B]

Anyway, we are Charlie Cook.

[A]

A lot of people was like, so I've seen a couple of barbs like, making videos basically saying, like, oh, my gosh. I'm very disappointed. Like. Like, as a lifelong Barb, like, this was my final shot. It is very sad. Like, they're very. You could tell. They're very hurt and distraught from having to lay down their queen. And then it's people saying, like, oh, you lame ass.

[B]

And I'm like, I'm sorry.

[A]

I don't understand. Like, I could not imagine if Beyonce did some shot this, I wouldn't literally be. I would.

[B]

You know what is the funniest part about this, bro? The funniest part is watching the. The barb's reaction, both hardcore and the disappointment. Because the ones who are like. And I don't give a.

[A]

You know what? They're like, I don't give a. I' ma still be. I'm like.

[B]

Like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. They gave it specifically, like, I don't give a. It's like, you know what?

[A]

Go ahead, baby. Because it's like, I don't. You know what's funny when it comes to, like, saying. Because I made a video about saying, you know, I gave a lot of nuance and, like, empathy for. For Nikki in the beginning of my video. Then I kind of read her calling her a coon, which I stand by, and I. I think, like, people. What am I trying to say?

[B]

What are you trying to say?

[A]

I feel like I literally lost my.

[B]

We are Charlie Kirk.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

We had Charlie Kirk Keeps playing in my head.

[A]

What were we just talking about? We said they cancel her. Oh, I remember now, baby.

[B]

I'm just drunk. I came. I came in a little drunk. Still this. Wake up.

[A]

Literally, I feel like I'm high or something. I was on the phone late night. Couldn't, you know. Anyways.

[B]

We have to get out of here, man. We have to get out of here.

[A]

Basically, what I was gonna say is people be old when it comes to, like, the whole cancellation of people. It's like, I can call Nikki AKU without demanding everybody to stop listening to her, too. Like, it's not like, guys, y' all are like, I'm just saying that she's a goon and she's pathetic and she's shucking and jiving for it. Doesn't mean I'm gonna call for, like, everybody to remove Nikki's music off And I. Because I don't think that that is as. I feel like that's a little performative sometimes. And I feel like what's.

[B]

What's more effective is honestly depends on the person.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

And what that person feeds off of it. Definitely. I actually think Nikki feeds off of the attention. So I think the best thing is to ignore her. Like, she's. She's like a child. And that's the thing. Every time she does something, she knows we're gonna get riled up and talk about her, which is why she keeps doing it. And so, you know. You know what's crazy? This is how I know I'm maturing. I feel like whenever she used to do something, also when you start doing stuff more often, it becomes less, like, sensational. It's kind of like when cut. When Kanye does. I didn't even hear about it until much later. I said, oh, like, it used to hit because it was like, you're not doing this a lot, but now it's like, you do this all the time, like, knowing, like, Jay Z and Roc Nation. We get it. You hate them, guys. And you're scared to say Beyonce's name. Name. Like, we literally get it. You're gonna give us a Jay Z. You're gonna give us a AI generated image. You're gonna say, Desiree, what's it name? And you're. And you're gonna try and allude to say Beyonce's name, but never actually say it.

[A]

Yeah. Because you're scared. Oh, but I will say this, though. You know, she kept saying that she has an album coming out in March. One of two things is gonna happen. One of two, and nothing in between. One. It's gonna flop. It's gonna flop really hard. And it's going to send her into another spiral, and she's gonna blame the establishment. Right. The other thing is, it's gonna go up, but for the wrong reasons. It's because she has solidified herself into the mega base, and they are going to do it out of spite. But of course, they don't actually like Nikki. They're going to do it just because they know that we are not with her in that moment. So I'm there.

[B]

I mean, them made what killed Charlie K. So at this point, anything is possible, truly. But the thing is. Oh, I can also see no shade. She hasn't dropped a good song in years. Like, with Megan and the Bigfoot. That sucked. I feel like if she dropped a bad song that was. People, like, would meme it so it would go up, but it would. Yeah. It would be ironically, unironically bad, and that's why it would go up.

[A]

Yeah. And no shade. I feel like when. When you are. When you got a lot of on.

[B]

Your heart, when you're, like, going through.

[A]

Trauma, talented in that way.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

That's just the laws of physics. It's just the laws of physics. There's no way you're gonna drop the. The hardest album of all time come March. I know it's not gonna be good because you don't got it in you no more, sister. And that's why you're spiraling, because you can't keep up with the new. The new. And, you know, funny enough, you don't have to. You. You didn't never. You never had the thing. Nobody could have ever questioned your legacy. Yeah. I think you are just such a.

[B]

Nikki is like, obviously what we've been saying. She could have kept going. No one was saying retire. Like, no one ever said that. Beyonce hasn't retired. She's given us, like, some of her best music in the latter half for career. Like. Like a Tina Turner. You could have had that. Or it's just, like, you just are so toxic to the young people that no one likes you. And the people who, like, feel reverence to you are, like, to me at this point, one, either grew up with you, like you gave them something very important when they were growing up, or two, they're very lost children who are looking for, like, belonging. It's no in between. You don't have, like, the general population, you know, at your beck and call anymore, which. Which sucks. I feel like all the normal people are like. I mean, Nikki has some great songs, but she's weird.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And it's whatever. Same thing with Kanye, girl.

[A]

And let me tell you something. Joe Budden has turned his back on her. And I didn't know that Joe Budden is a Nicki Stan, baby. And maybe you lost your butt.

[B]

What did Joe say?

[A]

You're done, sister. He was one of the people. He was.

[B]

I'm done, Nikki. I'm done. This is it. I'm done.

[A]

You lost me.

[B]

That's so funny. That's crazy.

[A]

I'm done, Nikki. I mean, hey, shout out to Joe.

[B]

When you lost Joe Budden, I guess you've lost it all. That says so much. I guess. Just like. Like Joe Budden being a litmus test.

[A]

This is funny.

[B]

I saw them beating your ass on Twitter.

[A]

One of the barbs. Let me. Let me.

[B]

But Mind you, I saw it.

[A]

Yeah, it was on another.

[B]

So I had to go find the tweet that pissed them off.

[A]

Grace R Ungua. Because you use your first and last name. You emailed me and said, you ugly ass bitch, go to hell and die, bitch. I'll be contacting your employers.

[B]

You know, what was I. I don't. She's in America though, because when you sent me it, I did try and find her because I was just. I was. I was just hella weak that she had her full name and a picture. That's. That's what had me crying. And the selfie. You know how Gmail lets you have full name? This is literally not a bot. This is a real person. That's why I said I. She is cute. Too cute for that.

[A]

And she's really pretty too.

[B]

So rude.

[A]

What a shame.

[B]

Nikki doesn't care about you.

[A]

So nasty and so rude. Nikki don't give a. She doesn't care about Raymond.

[B]

Nikki doesn't care about any of y'. All.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

I said, damn, stupid, dumb.

[A]

None of us are safe.

[B]

I'm sorry. That's like a top five Raymonte tweet. I was in bed, like, with tears rolling down my.

[A]

So funny.

[B]

I said, that's another episode of Unhinged. You guys, don't forget to lock into our Patreon. We'll be giving out more screwballs over there. Shout out to the screw crew and all the support that you give us. If you're subscribed to our Patreon, you get exclusive content and you get your episodes on Tuesday as opposed to on Thursday with the normal drop. We are bringing back sidebars this year where if you are a part of our Patreon, it's where we were like doing guest episodes with some of our mutuals and creators that we really, really like from Tick tock and across platforms all over the Internet. So definitely tune in. I feel like I've been hitting up people. We're.

[A]

We've.

[B]

We've asked peop our Patreon who they want to see and so we're hitting some folks up. And you guys, we know that you guys feel away sometimes about the unhinged and unplugged, but you guys have. You guys have been receiving our last few unhinged and Unplugged episodes really well. So I'm really proud of you guys. I feel like I'm really proud of you guys. You guys have been acting really nice in the comments, so thank you. Y' all are so extra.

[A]

Yeah, y' all are so spoiled. Y' all are some spoiled ass. How about that?

[B]

Do you have anything to say?

[A]

But we love you. Just make sure you guys stay locked in with all the things that we have coming up as far as, like, updates and things we're gonna. We are trying to really lock in so we can be more just like efficient on social media because we kind of just be like, yeah, yeah. We kind of just like more so operate our own. And we'd be neglecting the out of our actual, like unhinged page except for the clips. So I know you guys know about Arya, our intern. So we are really trying to figure out some sort of cohesive thing that we can do to just really make sure the content is just like ever evolving and things like that. Like, like Maker said, make sure you guys are subscribed to the Patreon.

[B]

So we have this independent episodes.

[A]

Spin it only.

[B]

Do we. Did we finish our slumber party series?

[A]

Yes, we have our slumber party series. We love spinach. No, we have one more coming out. I think I'll drop it this week then. So I want to keep that going.

[B]

I really liked that. That was fun to do.

[A]

Which is all about.

[B]

And we should. Maybe we can bring people to our slumber party next time. That would be fun.

[A]

Oh, that could be fun.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It was really so much girl talk. We were talking about sex and things. And this third episode is all about flirting, which is one of. I think this one is my favorite. So make sure y' all like.

[B]

And thanks for with us through all our changes.

[A]

Bye, you guys. And we'll see you guys next week. Yes. Love y'. All. Bye.

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