Unhinged Grits with Deante Kyle | Ep.38

Summary

Podcast Summary

Unhinged & Immoral – Ep. 38: "Unhinged Grits with Deante Kyle"
August 28, 2025
Hosts: Jamila Bell, Mecca Evans
Guest: Deante Kyle

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, hosts Jamila and Mecca welcome Deante Kyle—content creator, ex-truck driver, and co-host of "Grits & Eggs"—for a sprawling conversation that runs the gamut: from building a successful podcast out of the back of a truck, to stories of street life, Black culture, music, masculinity, and community. The trio deep-dives into everything from the impact of Hurricane Katrina, the nuances of Southern and Black experiences, fashion, internet personas vs. reality, to navigating fame, with their signature blend of humor, honesty, and unfiltered opinions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Deante’s Journey: From Truck Driver to Podcasting Success

Timestamps: 01:45 – 08:58

• Deante describes how his podcast "Grits & Eggs" started—recording alone in his truck, discussing random thoughts and promoting clips on TikTok.

• The origin of the "Grits & Eggs" name: a staple food he learned to cook during childhood after his parents split, symbolizing both sustenance and independence.
  — “For me, it’s like my origin story… I tied it into a source of sustenance. Sustenance more than anything, but like substance too. Like it’s gonna get you full.” – Deontay Kyle, 04:43

• The show’s rapid growth—contrary to average podcast lifespans.
  — “Most podcasts don’t blow up till like around 150, 200 [episodes]... We only on 79.” – Deontay Kyle, 02:32

2. The Leap—Quitting His Job for the Creative Hustle

Timestamps: 06:11 – 08:14

• Deante shares the turning point: when his Patreon community hit a set financial target, and changes at work made him realize he had to take the leap into full-time podcasting.
  — “I gotta jump out the window. Because if I stay, that means me coming in at 6, leaving at 7, 8… I’m not gonna have the time. Nor, like, the desire or the energy.” – Deontay Kyle, 07:00

3. Community, Collaboration & Early Hustle

Timestamps: 08:14 – 12:56

• Jamila and Deonte recall their first professional panel together, sharing the behind-the-scenes grind—planning events to save jobs, relying on friends and community.
• They discuss the value of collective knowledge, networking among Black creators, and how sharing game is often a mutual act of survival.
• Big milestone moments: from 500 to 100,000 YouTube subscribers and the power of leveraging TikTok clips for growth.

4. Black Music, Trauma, and Culture: Katrina’s Ripple Effects

Timestamps: 17:15 – 34:32

• Raw reflections on Black trauma, violence, and the normalization of murder in music, especially in Southern hip-hop—how these narratives relate to lived realities.

• The monumental impact of Hurricane Katrina on Black Southern communities:

  • The displacement and cultural blending in places like Houston and Atlanta.
  • Distrust in government and shifts in Black political attitudes.
    — “Katrina is one of those catalysts, is one of those things that drastically changed the trajectory of black America, the South, and honestly, the whole country forever.” – Jameela, 27:09

• Government neglect, media bias, and the psychological aftermath for survivors. — “It’s a 9/11 type event, but because it happened to black people, you know, it gets swept under the rug.” – Deontay Kyle, 27:35

5. Hustling, Street Life & Resilience

Timestamps: 37:07 – 52:41

• Deante opens up about his time selling drugs: how he started with weed before briefly selling crack, witnessing the transformation (and destruction) it brought to his peers.
• Grappling with legal peril (beating a felony case) and using it as a wake-up call to leave the streets for good.
• The duality of hustling—how it fosters both humility and empathy:
  — “I think it gives you a sense of humility… and I think that that translates on camera too. And I think that’s also why people feel so comfortable. Because it’s like, you not coming from a place of looking down.” – Jameela, 48:37

6. Black Masculinity, “Pandering,” and Internet Culture

Timestamps: 54:52 – 71:36

• Addressing accusations of "pandering" to women online: Deante breaks down the difference between empathy and performance, emphasizing how his worldview is shaped by the women who raised and supported him.

• Men’s lack of empathy and the internet’s warped gender debates:
  — “Accountability and responsibility are not the same.” – Deontay Kyle, 65:50
  — “If we’re gonna say like, well, women are emotional and men, we’re rational, then like, why are you being so emotional?” – Deontay Kyle, 68:19

• Discussion about male emotionality, vulnerability, and shifting generational perspectives on relationships and respect for women.

7. Music, Rap Game & Mount Rushmores

Timestamps: 71:44 – 85:32

• Candid talk about Deante’s music pipeline (from rapper to podcaster) and how podcasting now serves as a bridge between artists and an authentic audience.
• Favorite female rappers: GloRilla, Audie Audemar, Rico Nasty, Little Simz, Doechii, Missy Elliott.
• Personal and generational hip-hop Mount Rushmores—showing how taste matures and ties to regional and age-specific experiences.
• Hilarious anecdotes about generational rap debates (“G Herbo is the greatest rapper alive” moment in LA, 80:21).
• Culture, slang, and the regional intersections of Black experience—Bay Area, Atlanta, New York—especially as they relate to music and fashion.

8. Fashion, Streetwear & Personal Style

Timestamps: 94:03 – 117:58

• Introduction of another guest, Admin Earth: eclectic, whimsical, anime-loving content creator, discussing Japanese style and the crossover between streetwear and high fashion.
• Deante’s philosophy: practical, blue-collar–inspired workwear, Southern tradition, and timeless basics (Carhartt, Levi's, Timbs).
• Irreverent takes on internet "can’t dress" discourse and the value of authenticity, comfort, and originality over fast fashion or flexing labels.

9. Legacy, Giving Back, and Long-Term Vision

Timestamps: 119:19 – end

• Deante's vision for the next 5–10 years: turning Grits & Eggs into a sustainable, supportive network for Black creators, prioritizing community, sketch comedy, creative freedom—"popping in and out the public eye" a la Dave Chappelle.
• Concrete plans to invest back in the community: buying and converting motels for affordable housing, raising funds for teachers, and building Black spaces beyond property ownership (health centers, aquatic programs, after-school centers).
• Emphasis on Black fame vs. mainstream celebrity; the joys and importance of "existing in Black hair spaces."

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On independence and humble beginnings:
  “You gotta get in there to get out of there.” – Deontay Kyle, 02:13

• On Katrina and Black distrust of government:
  “Watching black people, specifically watching the government and how they responded to black people in New Orleans really made… Create a distrust with us, with the people.” – Deontay Kyle, 27:54

• On empathy and gender:
  “Niggas don’t understand that. I like, love my mama, bro. I love my grandma, bro. Like, simple. Like these folks, these women, when didn't nobody else, like, have no space for me, have no room for me. My grandma took me in even when my mom was sick of my shit.” – Deontay Kyle, 55:30

• On what’s missing from men’s conversations:
  “If we’re gonna say like, well, women are emotional and men, we’re rational, then like, why are you being so emotional?” – Deontay Kyle, 68:19

• On music taste maturing with age:
  “Like, your list, like, matured with you. Like, they were different people, but they're like your age mates in each like section.” – Mecca, 77:46

• On legacy and impact:
  “I want to buy… old motels and remodel them into affordable housing… I want to provide a space for artists to feel comfortable. And feel human and not just, like, doing their job.” – Deontay Kyle, 121:24, 126:43

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Topic | Timestamp | |---------|-----------|-----------| | Guest intro & origin story | Podcast beginnings, Grits & Eggs name | 01:45–04:56 | | Transition out of trucking | Pivot to full-time podcasting | 06:11–08:14 | | Black creators & community | Early panels, mutual help | 08:14–12:56 | | Black trauma & Katrina | Katrina’s impact, cultural shifts | 17:15–34:32 | | Street life to podcasting | Hustling, leaving the streets | 37:07–52:41 | | Gender, empathy, and "pandering" | Black masculinity, internet discourse | 54:52–71:36 | | Music talk | Rap favorites, generational change | 71:44–85:32 | | Fashion & authenticity | Style, internet criticism | 94:03–117:58 | | Legacy, giving back | 5–10 year vision, community | 119:19–end |

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Additional Highlights & Running Jokes

• Cooking grits, eggs & truck tales: Deante’s nostalgic food stories and Mecca’s riffs on Southern breakfast preferences (“hell no... get that salt, pepper, butter, cheese. That’s it.” – 04:58).
• "Do you eat ass?" The lighthearted way the trio weaves in explicit, irreverent humor about sex and relationships while keeping it real about standards and changing norms.
• Astrology banter: With guest Admin Earth, playful speculation on signs and anime talk (104:49–106:31).
• “Baby fat jacket with the like matted fur…”—Nostalgic riffs on 2000s fashion and its social/sexual signifiers.

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Tone & Language

The episode is direct, humorous, irreverent, heartfelt, and deeply rooted in Black Southern and internet culture. It mixes memes with vulnerability, personal anecdotes with sharp social commentary, and always keeps the conversational energy high and authentic. The hosts and guests shift seamlessly between joking and dropping real talk, exemplifying why their show resonates across audiences.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is a perfect encapsulation of Unhinged & Immoral’s style: unfiltered, intelligent, and full of heart. Jamila, Mecca, and Deante Kyle give listeners an inside look at the struggle and triumph of Black creative hustle, probe the deep scars of Black Southern history, break down modern masculinity, gender and music with refreshing honesty—and still make room for jokes about breakfast, baby fat jackets, and anime. If you want education with your entertainment—and a taste of “the culture” that’s shaping the conversation online—this one is essential listening.

Transcript

[Admin Earth]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Mecca]

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[Admin Earth]

To find out, go to ssa.gov extrahelp paid for by the US Department of Health and Human Services.

[Jameela]

Hey, it's Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile.

[Deontay Kyle]

Now I was looking for fun ways to tell you that Mint's offer of.

[Jameela]

Unlimited Premium Wireless for $15 a month is back. So I thought it would be fun if we made $15 bills, but it turns out that's very ille. So there goes my big idea for the commercial. Give it a [e-mail] Switch upfront payment.

[Mecca]

Of $45 for a three month plan equivalent to $15 per month required. New customer offer for first three months only. Speed slow after 35 gigabytes of networks busy taxes and fees extra.

[Jameela]

See mintmobile.com she flowing in that cash talk Walk in a booth like Naomi on the catwalk and tell them bitches whoop whoop from the Jaguar it ain't even right though push me and I might go she ain't getting money I'm like what the hype for when the bitches bite Flow make my appetite go poof gone Voila. Magic looking mad good pull up on them rampant. Welcome back to another episode of unhinged and immoral. I'm your host, Jameela.

[Mecca]

And I'm Mecca.

[Jameela]

And my, oh my, what we have.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Today.

[Jameela]

The panderer who's big panda. Today we have a very special guest, longtime friend at this point. That part, that part content creator, former truck driver. Get that CDL turn podcaster hosting with your co host, Big cat. Shout out to big cat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shout out. My boy.

[Jameela]

Original man. We have deontay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Kyle. What's happening? What's happening? No, I'm just trying to like add some more pandering to my resume.

[Mecca]

So yay, you know, this is the place.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is the spot. You feel me?

[Mecca]

This is the spot.

[Jameela]

Wonderful. How you feeling?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm cooling, man. You know, I'm just loving this, you know, this is full time thing now, so it's, it's a blessing for sure. But like, you know, it's good to be about that truck, but. Oh, I bet we encouraging. You know what I'm saying? Get in there first. Yeah, you got to get in there to get out of there.

[Mecca]

Get in the truck.

[Jameela]

I will say there's no real numbers or statistics to back this up. This is just me and my observation. I will say you are probably one of the fastest growing podcasts that I've seen.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

I don't know if there's numbers to support that, but I feel it in my spirit, so I'm gonna say it.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know, man. It's something, though. It's something to that.

[Jameela]

It's something.

[Deontay Kyle]

Today we only on 79 episodes and most podcasts don't blow up till like around 150, 200.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Hello?

[Jameela]

Yeah, most podcasts end after three episodes.

[Mecca]

Did you know that?

[Deontay Kyle]

Didn't know that.

[Mecca]

That's a fun fact.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, Yeah. I said, bro, I ain't gonna lie. I was just doing this in the back of the truck though. So it was like, it was easy. Like, oh, like I'm thinking about something and I might want to make a TikTok video about it. I was like, but I got a part. I can just like speak on this, like at full length.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then make like maybe a little two, three minute video about it on TikTok to promote. Like, if you want to hear more, tap into the part. So it wasn't really hard to do it initially because I was doing it by myself, but in hindsight, it was a little crazy. Like, I'm in the back of the truck just yelling no.

[Mecca]

What's crazy is I feel like I remember you being in the back of.

[Jameela]

The truck, seeing your videos, and it.

[Mecca]

Became like the thing. Like this nigga in the back of the truck. It was like a thing.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

So how did Gritson. I'm only asking because I heard you just tell your live you wasn't gonna repeat it. You gotta go back and watch episode one of Grist and Eggs or you can watch this episode. How did Gritson eggs get his name?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, it's from how I grew up when I was like a limb. My folks had split up, so we was living with my dad. And my dad really, you know, he was more so a provider, but he wasn't never really into like, the nurturing, cooking, food, washing clothes, all that. So my mama was like, I don't know how the conversation went, but either way she dipped. And so he left with all the responsibilities. So, like, the big thing that he would do is like, teach us how to cook these simple meals. So me and my sisters and like, spaghetti and grease and eggs was like the main two things. And so like, for the most part, it's like it's always in there. So when I kind of gained my own independence, like when I started thinking for myself, when I was responsible for myself, that was like the Main thing I was eating. So I just kind of tied it into like a source of like substance. Sustenance more than anything, but like substance too. Like it's gonna get you full.

[Jameela]

Oh, them grits gonna sit.

[Mecca]

Grits, eggs.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's gonna keep you.

[Mecca]

I like to sprinkle my cheese on my stuff.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. You feel me? I'm going grits, eggs, cheese. If we ain't got no meat, I might split a hot dog and have fry him up.

[Jameela]

You know what I mean?

[Deontay Kyle]

Of so yeah, we in there. But it was just like one of those things where I was like, well, it sound good too, but it's also like for me, it's like far as like independent thinking. It's like my origin story. That's what I connected to.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

You put sugar on your grits.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hell no. You have to get that salt, pepper, butter, cheese. That's it.

[Jameela]

You heard your is a real eater.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, that went also too. Now. I just started doing this too. You throw a little heavy whipping cream in there.

[Jameela]

Oh, yeah.

[Mecca]

In the grits.

[Deontay Kyle]

In the grits. Man. That turned make them pretty. Man. That look like real velvet. Yeah.

[Mecca]

And if you want them, you put milk in your eggs. If you want to be fluffy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll be doing that every now and then.

[Mecca]

But like, I like a dense egg.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I like a scramble. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like a nice hard scrambled.

[Jameela]

Right. I'm a negro. I'm about horrible cheese.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want that yellow to turn brown. For for real.

[Jameela]

That's a different for real.

[Deontay Kyle]

You filled the whole egg up.

[Mecca]

When they be like, why is you seasoning your eggs like a brisket?

[Jameela]

Well, well, I like them sometimes I like a little Tony's in my ear.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna hold you like, that's blasphemy, bro. This is like breakfast. You gotta keep breakfast real simple. Just salt and pepper. Like that'll get you through. Salt and pepper and butter gonna get you through breakfast.

[Jameela]

That salt and pepper butter do. Do good.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. N trying to make devil. Like, I ain't trying to eat a deviled first thing. That's crazy as hell.

[Jameela]

That's lit though. I really like that. So when did you know it was time to leave that truck?

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, so this the thing we had started the Patreon. I had a number in mind. Like Patreon is like people always coming and going, but it's more coming and going. Right. So especially like when we consistent with dropping the episodes promoting them the right way.

[Admin Earth]

Woody.

[Deontay Kyle]

Woo woo. Which is a whole nother job within itself, for sure. But I was like, I got this number. When I get to that number, I'm a. I' ma trust the people that support me and just go do it full time. And probably about a month before I had officially hit that number, niggas at the job was like, quitting, and somebody had got fired. And so we had six drivers, and it went down to, like, three. And he was like, man, you know, we really gonna be depending on you, like, over these next few weeks or months until we get everything back. And I was like, I ain't gonna hold you. You can't depend on me. I'm quitting. I quit today. Ooh. And they was like, shit. And I was like, I gotta jump out the window. Because the thing is, is, like, if I stay, that means me coming in at 6, leaving at 7, 8.

[Mecca]

You're not gonna have the time.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm not gonna have time. Nor, like, the desire or, like, the energy. Yeah. Cause then I got three kids, too. So it's like, yeah. I was like, man, fuck it.

[Mecca]

You got two totally different. What did you say?

[Jameela]

Priorities are priorities.

[Mecca]

Different.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I had talked to their mama, Like, I was like, look, I'm gonna quit. What you think? She was like, I think if you quit, it's gonna get bigger because you'll have more time, and it's what you love to do, so just do it.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

She's like, don't put it on two weeks. Just quit. Like you feeling it right now. Do it.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I was like, all right. I called him. I was like, look, I ain't coming back. And a week later, quite literally, everything changed. And that just been up and up.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

You have been going up. And it's, like, to see it in its fruition and watch it, like, almost from its inception, that's always really fun. Like, I'm glad we connected before then, because I feel like it's like.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I mean, you pee game, though. You put. You know, I always. We're gonna tell this story every time.

[Jameela]

We get together, every time we get that. Y' all can repeat the story at this point.

[Deontay Kyle]

Jamila put me on my first speaking panel, and, like, that was my first time, like, as I had some visibility, speaking publicly, and them folks was, like, really receptive of that. I was like, oh, I do mind you.

[Jameela]

I put on that event to save my job. I was going up that mountain to save my marriage.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, true.

[Mecca]

And she tried to bring me, and I said, this is too short of notice.

[Jameela]

So many people, like, nobody understood Nobody.

[Deontay Kyle]

Understood this before anything was really going. This one like this. When everybody was kind of on a. I think you always kind of had the bigger platform as. As, like, as. As a tick tock. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I was always looking at you and like ag and like Sway. It's like, okay, these the numbers I want to get to. You know what I'm saying? So I'm studying y', all, but like, me and Jim was kind of like in the same boat, like, as far as like where we was with it. And I was like. I was like, if I go speak publicly and then we can get some clips from this. I was like, my gonna be lit. I already know what's going on. And so, yeah, it just happened like that. Yeah, that shit was fired.

[Jameela]

Like, yeah, it was all off the strength of like just favors. And I was just like, oh my God. Like I needed that job. Like, I was working at an event space and I literally. I really loved working there because I've always been in events and stuff like that. So I was like, this is cool. But they was basically like, hey, we need more events, we need more money, or we're closing the doors. And I'm like, well, don't do that. Like, don't close the door. I love working close doors, the church. You know what I'm saying? So I was genuinely trying to save the business and save myself. Like, literally. He was down. That nigga sprayed the head with that thick ass neck.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna hold you if a nigga say lock the door while I'm in church. All the sin finn happen. We gonna start really sinning in this bitch.

[Mecca]

I was gonna try egging it on. Go ahead, lock it.

[Jameela]

Yeah, go ahead, pastor a mess.

[Deontay Kyle]

Lock it. We finna jump that nigga.

[Jameela]

But yeah, that was literally the motivation behind it. And I was like, like, what do I know? And it's crazy, cuz the original idea was to do a speed dating event. I said, let me tell you something.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, absolutely not.

[Jameela]

I said let in Atlanta. I was like, that's. That's stupid.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, Atlanta is just. What is Atlanta if not one big speed day?

[Jameela]

That's. I was like, that's a. Let me. Give me control. Let me do this. I. I planned that in literally a week. And I was like, let me just reach out to everybody I reached out to were people I just knew or were mutuals with and had some type of, you know what I'm saying? Communication. I was like, this is just a favor. I Don't got nothing to give so.

[Deontay Kyle]

Much from that spot, though. Like, especially from, like, Ty, I started titling. I ain't gonna hold you this. When I first, like, this the. Probably the first month of the visual podcast. And so I'm really trying to figure out YouTube. So I remember asking him, like, certain questions, and everything he told me to do, I applied it, and my number just started going crazy, and it was simple shit.

[Jameela]

And he come from the streaming.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly.

[Jameela]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

And.

[Jameela]

And we went to high school together. That's all. That Devin, he did the fool shit. We went to high school together. Like, one of the other girl. Two of the girls on there were from my sorority. I. When I tell you I was reaching, like, please, yeah, I need this. Like, this can. This can be something. And with. With barely any promotion we had. When I tell you I had two nickels to rub together to make that event go. With barely any promotion, and we still had people show up, I was like, if nobody come, it is what it is. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

That shit was.

[Jameela]

It was hard.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was a good turnout. All the seats was filled.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And, like, people that was in the crowd we've seen since Blow Up.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because, like, people was just in there giving Real Game. Like, it wasn't really about, like, nobody had no egos about that shit. So, you know, you could tell that everybody was there, like, really just wanted to help people, like, maximize. If this is what you want to do, this how you do it. And it's like, if you apply it, then you'll win, but if you don't. So even there, like, I'm. I'm applying this, and I'm speaking to the creators, too. But, like, at the same time, like, bro, it's a lot of game going on.

[Jameela]

I think it was also just a huge platform for us to, like, manifest Hell yeah. Because, mind you, what I think a lot of people don't be realizing is, like, the art of finesse that we have, because as we talking, like, we believe this, but it's like, we're talking. We were talking things in existence that had no. We. We were nowhere near. Nowhere near where we are. Right. Mind you, I was working two jobs. I was working there, and I was working in my friend Jamaica spot. I'm doing all this, and still I'm like, y' all don't know what the fuck going on. I'm over here finessing. I'm. I'm trying to give y' all the game. Whole time. I need the game, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

So yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a two way street now for sure. Cause I wasn't even in that point. I didn't never see this being something I was gonna do full time. The reality was I need some supplemental income for these bills. Cause like, TikTok was like, I was eating on TikTok. But nothing crazy, but it was helping me where I wasn't living. Check to check with my job. So I was like, man, shit, if anybody can give me the sauce, I take it. And I was listening. They was like, YouTube, that's the way. I ain't even had that all the way figured out. I think we had like 500 subscribers when I pulled up over there. And we just cracked 100,000. We just got our plaque. You know what I'm saying?

[Jameela]

We got that silver, that new plaque.

[Deontay Kyle]

The new one, that motherfucker rectangle.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

I like the new one.

[Deontay Kyle]

Got a mirror in the middle. Yeah, I like that.

[Jameela]

That's crazy. I had just hit a hundred thousand followers on Tick Tock. I remember because I had said something during this thing and I'm like, that was so big for me. I'm almost at 500k now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Straight up under a year. I ain't gonna hold you, man. Just under a year. Like, don't quadruple them numbers. For real, that junk. Your first video.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

What?

[Deontay Kyle]

The first video I ever seen of you on Tick Tock. You were saying what school you went to.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Hampton.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hampton. And you was like. You was dating some dude and he was like a killer or some. You the first person I ever heard say, you know.

[Mecca]

No, you want to know what's crazy? That video just started. I had to private it because it was. It's literally from years ago.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because you had black hair.

[Mecca]

I had. I had a red wig. I had a red bus down on.

[Jameela]

But I.

[Mecca]

But I. It was like a series. It was about this Dominican boy I was talking to at Hampton. And he was. He was bad. He got sent down to Virginia.

[Jameela]

Cause he was being bad.

[Deontay Kyle]

The thing that I took from it though, you was the first person that I heard put like a psychiatric term on like this shit. You was like, these niggas ain't killers. These niggas are sociopaths. And I was like, follow her, follow her. She knows some shit.

[Jameela]

I like that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I like that. I fuck with that.

[Mecca]

No, you know what inspired. Cause I literally just watched the video. Vince Staples has said something about hood niggas being serial killers or something. I can't remember the exact tweet And I was saying, let me tell you something. This boy I was talking to, he got. He got sent down to Virginia. Well, he did it when he was a teenager, so it was in juvenile hall, out of juvenile house, sent down to Virginia. I'm at Hampton. So I ended up dating him. At the time, I was on some nut shit, like, whatever. I wasn't really tripping, but what made me know this nigga was crazy was he started. He was watching, like, what's it called? The Smut. Not the Smut. When they be, like, beheadings and stuff.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to watch that shit too, though. I ain't gonna lie.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes.

[Mecca]

And the thing is, he was watching. And he wasn't the first boy I knew who would just be like. Cause the Internet used to be the wild west. That shit used to come up on your timeline, on Twitter type shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man. Like rotten.com. you can really just watch murder.

[Mecca]

Watch murder.

[Jameela]

I remember there was a guy in our high school who used to always retweet that shit. We'd be like.

[Mecca]

It would be like, what is the role?

[Deontay Kyle]

And I was like, that is his sport. Murderer. What the fuck?

[Mecca]

And that's why I said, no, these niggas are crazy. They're sociopaths.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. So. So the thing is, is like, so I remember you tied Vince to that, right? And like, Vince got like, one of my favorite Vince Staples albums is like his self titled album, Vince Staples. And then he was like. And it's like the intro song. So now you done put it in my mind like, these niggas are sociopaths, right? And then he was like. He was like, I just want to get a little bread, shoot a couple niggas in the head. I was like, whoa. Casually a couple. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, in the head. Like, that's some real life.

[Mecca]

That's what. I was having that same realization because, okay, in Sacramento, obviously, Northern California. Mozzie is from Sacramento. Gang culture is very prevalent in the city. To the point them songs really do be getting people killed. And so that's something that me and my brother do. Whenever I'm at home, he'll play. He's like, play this song. They got him. Play this song. But they just got him. There is a boy who was in Sacramento who moved down to Houston. They came down and got him in his mama's lawn, like, type. Like type. So I'm used to hearing. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm just. I just grew up hearing in the music that I was listening to growing up, casually talking about killing, and then you see it, like, manifest itself in a way. You're like. You're actually crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, no, it's. There's a. There's a switch that gets flipped because the thing, like, speaking of, like, Mozzie, it's like, this makes some beautiful, brutal music. Like, it's. It's beautiful. Like, the lingo, how he uses the beat selection. But if you tune in, this thing is talking about exclusively murder.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

People don't even know. Stunner girl is known for baddies now, but she started a gang warrant, and she.

[Jameela]

That's how she got.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

When she says get in the cage, she put a.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

In the cage.

[Mecca]

Rocky bad and stabbed her. That's not Cap.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, this the one that be beating everybody up.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, child.

[Mecca]

And we're so desensitized to it. And so that's kind of what.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

I was talking about in relation to his tweet. Just kind of like, this shit ain't cool, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's actually not. And also, like, normalizing murder to the point where it's just, like. It's just something to rap about. Like, that's crazy as fuck to me.

[Mecca]

It is a topic. It's like rapping about. Bitches, money, pussy.

[Jameela]

What was it?

[Mecca]

Pussy, money, weed. Lil Wayne.

[Deontay Kyle]

Pussy, money, weed. It's hard to make it shout out to the Apple music for putting the Drop 3 on streaming.

[Jameela]

Oh, listen when I tell you. My best friend Dwight sent it to me and said, listen to it. We will be having a discussion about it this day. I said, nigga, I'll say this. I have homework.

[Deontay Kyle]

There are some things that live in the deep recesses of our brain. And when I press play after not hearing that for more than 10 years and knew every lyric, I was like, oh, this is taking up space.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I need to put like, you know how you got the garbage can on your Mac? I need to throw these lyrics in the garbage. Cause it's like this shit is taking up, like, prime real estate in my mind.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? I could be using. I need to put. Replace that with a book.

[Jameela]

You know, speaking of music. Speaking of, you know, I think that you have made a good bubble of music for your. Your space. Right. Like, you make it almost like a safe space for. For artists. And I feel like. Of course, we know artists have to do the rollouts. They got to do the interviews. They got to do the press run. I know that they don't like it a lot of the times. Because a lot of times you're going to people who are not familiar with you for real. You can tell you're going to people who are asking, you ask questions. And I think that your platform really makes it, like, comfortable. It's like, okay, like. Like, I can talk to you for real. Like, was that an intentional thing for you to. To bridge that musical gap? Because I, you know, I know you like to try to pretend you don't rap no more.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't. I'm retired.

[Jameela]

Gonna get in the studio if it's open, though.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, if the alchemist send me a beat back, I will rap, I promise you. It's certain people, like, if they was like, you wanna do a feature? I'm doing the feature. But I think for me, it's like, these are people, right? And so it's like, behind the artistry and behind the music and also knowing the process of how hard it is to come up with a concept for your music or your album and how expensive it is. Cause the artist gets paid last. You gotta pay your engineer first. You gotta pay for the beats, you gotta clear samples, you gotta get budgets for marketing, all these different things. And then they going around and they answering the same questions over and over. And I don't really, you know, honestly, like, your reason behind making your album, like, who are you?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Like, because everybody's gonna ask you, what's the inspiration? And why did you do this and that? It's like, okay, that's cool. That's standard. That's industry. I want to know who you are as a person. Like, what are your likes? And like, also too, like, once a person get comfortable and they showcase more their personality and through conversation, you got to fall in love with the artists themselves. You know what I mean? We don't live in that old mystique of, like, we don't really know who we listening to, you know? Yeah, niggas don't know Mariah Carey for real. Like, we know the music.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't really know Mike like, that. We know his music.

[Jameela]

I know Mike. Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

That wasn't purely an example. But I think the things. The thing is, for them, it's like, every appearance was extremely curated and extremely, like, for sure, purposeful. Like, this is for this album, and I'm only going to sit down with these people. And now, like, artists are having to go sit down on all these podcasts and all these different streamers and people that really, genuinely don't care about their music.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But they. And they honestly don't care about them as a person. It's just like a transactional thing where it's like, if I can get to a space where I can interview people who I actually give a fuck about and I actually listen to their music and it don't have to be about the music. It could be more about them. I think that's more impactful towards their music than anything else. But it's also like, as a fan, it's a bucket list thing. Like, I got to interview Absol, bro. Like, yeah, like, come on.

[Jameela]

That's pretty cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's cool as fuck. You know what I'm saying? What the fuck?

[Jameela]

Yeah. And I think that's. That's where I'm at now and where we are. Like, we're being able to have this platform, but this platform be the bridge to unite with people that we look up to.

[Deontay Kyle]

Absolutely.

[Jameela]

And that have drastically encouraged and influenced the space that we're at right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Absolutely. Because we. We. This is a branch of media now.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, the radio is irrelevant and, you know, TV is streaming. Film has turned into streaming. The box office is back, though.

[Mecca]

The box office, the thing is never gonna die.

[Deontay Kyle]

There's nothing. There's nothing better than going to a theater and watching a movie.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nothing competes.

[Mecca]

I didn't know when it was gonna come. I knew it was coming back when they made Barbie and then. And when they started that Barbie promotion the year before and she was showing up in the old school Barbie fifth, I said, oh, we're back.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna hold you sinners.

[Mecca]

No, no, sinners did.

[Jameela]

Don't even get me on my goddamn ranch.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ryan put back in seats, man.

[Jameela]

Badly.

[Mecca]

They had to extend multiple times also too.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, bro, it was simple.

[Mecca]

It's a good movie.

[Deontay Kyle]

He did it right. And he got that documentary out. I'm gonna watch.

[Mecca]

Oh, that is on my watch.

[Deontay Kyle]

That makes me. I watched Katrina babies. That was sad, dog.

[Jameela]

Listen.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

Being a part, like, not only listen. And I can't wait to watch it, like, once, you know, we're done with this busy week. Because I wan relive it as an adult. Because Katrina happening. I remember, like, because we're right there. Vermont is right there by Louisiana. And on top of that, like, that was a very hurricane city, like we experienced all the time. And I think what people never talked about with the Katrina because I remember the media making it seem like these people were stupid idiots for not leaving. It's like, y' all don't understand. We get hurricanes every year and we never had to leave. We never really had to evacuate, number one. But number two, it's so fucking expensive to do and it's very difficult. And it's something that has to happen fast. And so I remember watching that happen. I remember watching in my living room watching that nigga Kanye west say, live, george Bush does not care about black people.

[Deontay Kyle]

Watch that on tv.

[Jameela]

You know what I'm saying? And so. But also the year later, Hurricane Rita happened in Texas and it impacted us. And that's what led me to Georgia.

[Deontay Kyle]

Crazy. I think another thing that they're going to talk about is the overall impact it had on the south in general.

[Mecca]

Because as a Houston president, the way, obviously, we're 20 years removed from Katrina.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Right.

[Jameela]

So.

[Mecca]

But it's fun to talk to people.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, like, like tomorrow.

[Jameela]

Yes.

[Mecca]

Type.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's today? Didn't Katrina happen on the 9th or the 5th?

[Mecca]

I'm not sure.

[Jameela]

I'm not sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think it was either the fifth or the ninth. But yeah, this week is like 20 years.

[Mecca]

And it's like the way that hearing people who are from Houston, born there, being able to describe how Houston was before Hurricane Katrina, because so many people sought refuge in Houston.

[Deontay Kyle]

Absolutely. But then, shit, one of my best friends live in Houston right now. And it's like. But he grew up in Georgia with me after Katrina.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And like, these people hold on to their culture and accents.

[Mecca]

Now, mind you what I will say when you go to the club, it's integrated itself into Houston culture. You have a lot of Cajun, a lot of NOLA inspired cuisine and this type of stuff. But you can definitely see how there was like whole areas dedicated to them.

[Jameela]

People were displaying. We even said this on your podcast about how, you know, the New Orleans, Katrina's migration changed music forever.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Jameela]

It brought Lil Wayne to mainstream because the thing is, like, they had to leave. Right. And the thing is with Houston, specifically in that area, a lot of people went to Beaumont and Houston, that whole little area, because it's the closest culture to Louisiana. It's very, very similar. And that a lot of people don't even know about that culture. That's why I always say, like, southeast Texas is its own thing. If you, you. It's not the same as all of Texas. And same with Atlanta. It's the next biggest city over, so they're going over there. And the Katrinians was running Atlanta.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

Like, it was a thing. And it was funny because I remember people were Scared of them. Katrina going everywhere.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, I seen a. A real brawl, like a royal rumble of a brawl, like weeks. Because you. You gotta think, like, even though all these people are displaced, they know they familiar with each other through a culture of New Orleans. So they click together. And then, you know, gonna need.

[Jameela]

One thing about it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Will need. You know what I'm saying? So I was like. But, like, the crazier thing is that is, like, they brought a lot of their culture with them. So, like, yeah, we was familiar with, like, Lil Wayne and, like, his more mainstream things, but these niggas hit me to, like, all of his underground and his mixtapes. This would make me like a big Wayne fan, but also, like, I got so many friends from that disaster, you.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's like it changed the culture in the south, period.

[Jameela]

For sure.

[Mecca]

Definitely for sure.

[Jameela]

I would. I will never forget that. I will never forget that whole time period. Because also, it was something that lasted for a couple of years. Just the impact of it, like, and even still, still to this day, you'll talk to somebody who is from that area or whatever, like, Katrina is one of those catalysts, is one of those things that drastically changed the trajectory of black America, the South, and honestly, the whole country forever. And it's Nothing.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a 911 type event, but because it happened to black people, you know, it gets swept under the rug, but, like, drastically impacted the country. And it's also like, one of the things that started, you know, on the back of 9 11. People are a little weary of the government, correct?

[Jameela]

Absolutely.

[Deontay Kyle]

But watching black people, specifically watching the government and how they responded to black people in New Orleans really made. Create a distrust with us, with the people. And then Kanye west saying what he said, like, it's like from his mouth to God's ears, that shit rung true with all black.

[Jameela]

And that's what elected Obama.

[Mecca]

You said what?

[Jameela]

That's what elected Obama. Katrina alone, they would say, we need some change, nigga.

[Deontay Kyle]

That shit quite literally changed the trajectory of the country.

[Mecca]

And I think that's why if with all of Kanye's craziness, so many niggas don't still hold on to that Kanye, right? Because on tv, like, I can remember, obviously I'm in California, but my parents were very pro black. Very. And that was something that stayed on the tv. And so for. And it was something like we're seeing. Even though they're on the news and they're like telling stories, you're seeing all. What was it on the dome where they were writing Help me.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

And it's like.

[Mecca]

It's like y' all ignoring these.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

I remember.

[Mecca]

I can vividly remember seeing something floating and then being like, is that a body?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Like, died for real.

[Jameela]

It was insane.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, not only did die, were being killed.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then also too hunted. Hunted. Hunted by. And. But. But the. Also too, like, the. The lesser talked about part is, like, the danger that it proposed to, like, women and children because they was, like, in these domes being raped. It was molested. And also, like, inmates was in that. It was a cluster.

[Jameela]

It was a free for all. And you know what's crazy?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

You.

[Jameela]

When I transferred to Georgia State and I really got into my media classes, we had a chapter dedicated to Hurricane Katrina specifically because of the way the media obliterated it. And it was like, that is something that we had to study because when I tell you, the media got so much backlash because of the way they were talking about these people. They was making it seem like these people were evil. They were sitting out here looting. But then on.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

On the.

[Jameela]

On the other end, when they would have the white Katrina victims doing the same.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was survivors own thing.

[Jameela]

Like, it's something that's. This study in media of what not to do, because it was that up. Like, they contributed to it on top of, like, of course, the government not helping.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, then also, too, you got to think about you. If you remember, my parents were like, my mother is more of a conservative person just because of religion purely. And the way the media covered it skewed her perception of what those people, who those people were. And so she was like, you don't need to be hanging out with those people. Like, it's like, like, these folks. I lost everything. And you're thinking about, like, crime and like that. And it's like, if anybody's justified in committing criminal acts that literally lost a city.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes. Yeah.

[Jameela]

Like, that's the least they could do.

[Deontay Kyle]

You feel me? But go ahead.

[Mecca]

Sorry.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, we're.

[Mecca]

I feel bad that I interrupted you.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. I do that.

[Mecca]

I was just. I was just sitting here thinking, we just had a tragedy in Texas, a flash flood that killed a whole. They killed the babies in the camp and a whole bunch of things. Majority of the people were white. And so I'm on, obviously, the Houston side of Twitter. Houston side of Twitter is, by default, people who were leaving New Orleans. And there was a very strong contingency among a very niche group of people. We don't give a. Because y' all didn't give a when it was us. So why we give when it's y'?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

All?

[Mecca]

And I was watching that happening and then, like, seeing, like, really playing it back. It gave, like, O.J. you know how, like, we were just. That woman was like, how many white people have gotten away with killing black.

[Jameela]

People over the years?

[Mecca]

And that just happened, like, a month or two ago. And so even sitting here talking about it, I'm like, hearing you describe it, hearing you talk about your experience again, being so far removed now, the. Contextually, the tweets are making a lot more sense.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, yeah, because, like, this is the thing that America doesn't do. It doesn't restore. So it won't admit to his faults, it won't admit to his lies or mistakes, but it doesn't restore.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So the 92% thing is a thing of, like. It's a lack of restoration. Like, people feel like we voted for progress just to be slapped in the face. So now that this is affecting you, fuck you. And that's the same way, like, people from Katrina didn't feel like the country really gave a fuck. Like, they gave them, like, little bitty ass FEMA checks and shit like that. And it's like, okay, well, when it happened to somebody else, fuck, welcome.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's like, that's how people find restorative justice within themselves. Like, now I have an outlet to cast this anger. And they'll wait. If it took 20 years for them to have an opportunity to do it, it's still that, remember, because you also got people who are like, new Orleans is one of those cities. Every major city, every major black city, for one, is very proud.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

People love where they're from. You feel me? So you have people that grew up and they have to hear stories of the old New Orleans.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That they didn't get to participate in.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So there's some, you know, there's some angst behind that, too. And I just think, like, a lot of it is justified. A lot of it can get a little crazy when, you know, people are obviously losing their lives.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's like, maybe not right now, but.

[Mecca]

In their defense, on the Internet, don't give a fuck about timing, though, or couth.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

They don't give a damn.

[Jameela]

They don't give a.

[Deontay Kyle]

That is out the window, girl. It's actually the last thing they think about. Yeah. So, you know, it's one of those things, but I think, damn, it's 20 years, man. That's like.

[Jameela]

That's insane.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. And it.

[Jameela]

It's like, damn. I. When you put it that way. Yeah. I'm 29.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because if you in the south, you live through it with them.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because it changed things for you too.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? And a lot of the administration was like, we had like, real talks at the school, like, real, like school wide talks about being like, welcoming and understanding. Like, our school populations are about to like, like increased by a quarter.

[Jameela]

Yeah, we have. Listen, you dig the from Katrina are on the way.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, look, this is the first time I ever seen a teenager with a tattoo on his face. I was like, oh, these are different.

[Jameela]

Oh, okay. Cool, cool, cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was this girl. It was this girl named.

[Jameela]

What grade was you in?

[Deontay Kyle]

I was in 10th grade. 10th grade? Yeah, it was just. It was 2005. I was 15. So it was this girl named Epiphany, period. You did shout out to fine, though.

[Jameela]

Yeah, no, we had known.

[Deontay Kyle]

We had a Spanish class together. And this is also like, to. To a like me. This is like an ex. This is an exotic woman. You feel me? Like, damn. She talked different. She looked different. Her whole demeanor, sexy as a choosing. We talking. We flirting. And she's like, yeah, you know, I got my own apartment. And I'm like, how? She was like, Katrina, you know, we got our own. And then I seen her walking through the hallway with this nigga. This nigga's name is Rudolph. This nigga has a tattoo in his head, in his face right here. And I'm like, oh, this bitch trying to get me killed. Okay, cool. Hey, no, I blow. We in Spanish class together. I'm no upload. No, I don't want no smoke with you or this nigga. Cause this nigga looks. I can see it in his eyes. He has a body. You know what I'm saying? He's murdered. He's killed, and he will do it again.

[Jameela]

That's crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. These is wearing like full camouflage. Fits to school like this we've never seen before. Yeah. I only seen white people wear like, full, like hunting gear. These throwing on hunting gear at school.

[Jameela]

I'm like, yo, them is country swamp. You dealing with some swamp. Yeah, man, that is so crazy. Every time I think about, like just the hurricane time, I'm like, wow. I'm just like, immediately, immediately taken back because it's something you will if you've ever evacuated. And I. I say this all the time. One day I'm gonna tell my evacuation story because it is. It is It's a lot. And you will never, ever forget it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, it's abrupt, you know, and it's.

[Jameela]

And it's traumatic and it's insane.

[Deontay Kyle]

Why you yelling?

[Mecca]

I. I don't really, you know, she.

[Deontay Kyle]

Said it like, contribute something.

[Mecca]

I'm not from the south, so, you know, I don't really got nothing to say about this.

[Jameela]

Man, that evacuation was crazy. N was scared too. They was like, we ain't finna have. What the fuck happened to Katrina? So everybody fucking left. That shit was. My God, it should have never taken that long to get to Houston.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is why socialism could work. But we're gonna get to another.

[Jameela]

And let me tell you something. Cause I can go on a tangent for days.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, me too. I was like, you know. Cause that is a lack of socialism.

[Jameela]

That's all it is.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

You know, our country just chooses not to. And my favorite, my favorite thing to do to people who are anti socialists, they're always pro military, which is random socialist principles. But we'll go to the next question.

[Deontay Kyle]

Also billionaire worshipers too, which is weird, strange.

[Jameela]

You'll never get there.

[Deontay Kyle]

And, and who are biggest, bigger socialists than the top 1%?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Hello.

[Jameela]

Well, they love programs.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, they. And they love, they love passing a handout.

[Jameela]

They love handouts. Actually.

[Deontay Kyle]

Actually, there's a favorite thing. There's a whole term for it, a government handout. They just call it a bailout, but, you know, that's one of those things, you know.

[Jameela]

Okay, let's talk about you selling drugs.

[Mecca]

Excellent transition.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes.

[Jameela]

Talk about a handout.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes.

[Jameela]

Something I love.

[Deontay Kyle]

Come on, Barbara Walters.

[Jameela]

You knew where you was coming.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, I would still sell drugs right now just for the fucking.

[Jameela]

You know what I'm saying? You was in them streets. I was slanging that dope, slanging that dope sling, babe, all that.

[Deontay Kyle]

You feel me tipping that one?

[Jameela]

Okay, so let's talk about who the.

[Deontay Kyle]

Fuck did Smokey Robinson thing.

[Jameela]

Banging bang, bang, bang.

[Deontay Kyle]

Who do you think that was gonna.

[Jameela]

Change with them twins?

[Deontay Kyle]

I thought too the 90s was like, so let's get in front of a concrete structure.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

With graffiti.

[Jameela]

It was so like crime.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. And Shawna had the denim up top, denim down bottom. That shit was nasty. I beat the fuck out of Smokey Robinson. Like, not no shade. No shade. Like, not right now. But like if I was. If it was 1993 and I sell crack and this nigga like, yeah, you.

[Jameela]

Light eyed devil, high yellow ass. Come on. Yeah, Smokey.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I was.

[Jameela]

You was crazy for the drop.

[Deontay Kyle]

Selling drugs was Fun to, to the extent of like, what drugs were you selling?

[Jameela]

What you doing? Crack cocaine. Was you doing the cocaine? Was you doing the hair? Ron? Was you doing the weeds?

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay.

[Mecca]

Did you know how to cook?

[Deontay Kyle]

We started out. Okay, let's go.

[Jameela]

I wanna know.

[Mecca]

I'll do the clip for you right now.

[Jameela]

See how we always just take it.

[Mecca]

I'm sorry.

[Deontay Kyle]

You funny as shit. So it start with we. I told this story when I was with Kevin, but Kevin on stage for those, you know.

[Jameela]

Cause we're friends.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just in case you guys aren't on first name basis.

[Jameela]

You might have kept on stage.

[Deontay Kyle]

But. But like I was with the homies. Like I came back from North Carolina, I had got kicked out of school senior year, bad. And it was really like contingent on my mama saying like, you know, if you keep getting in trouble, I'm seeing you live with your dad. And I was like, I want to go live with him anyway.

[Mecca]

I was going to do that anyway.

[Deontay Kyle]

I haven't lived with that nigga in three years.

[Jameela]

Like, no, David, no.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, God. So I just started going to school like wild. Like, what's the fastest way to get a write up? You skip school, you curse a teacher out, you fight.

[Jameela]

So you did all three?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you just got that going and. Yeah, just a nice semester of that got me put right on out. And it was like, actually we don't want him at any schools in this county.

[Jameela]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

So my mom was like, yeah. So my mom was like, okay, you finna move to North Carolina? So I went to North Carolina. It was like, whatever. If. If I was smart enough to realize what the situation was, instead of being extremely emotional about it, I would have thrived out there. Cause my stepmother is a college professor, She's a doctor. She could have gotten me free education just through her connection.

[Jameela]

It's good black folks.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Yeah, Great.

[Mecca]

They come from good stock.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. These are selling drugs. Yeah. Well, that stepmother, my dad, definitely my dad. There was a, a upward move for him. That was a very smart move on his behalf. But me and him kind of had to settle our scores too. You know what I'm saying? So that's what the really majority was. Just like selling the scores with him and like figuring out where we was with it.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And because like young is so emotional and disrespectful, you know, I wasn't really welcome there.

[Jameela]

You know, something your chest and.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah. Calling people out their names and, you know, just not really being grateful for the opportunity. Yeah. So I said I had a little girlfriend at the time. And so the discussion was always to come back, be with her. I miss my friends, you know, all that type shit. So no bigger picture in my mind. But when we came back, it's summertime. I'm like, man, I'm not finna get no job. But, like, all my friends sell drugs. And, like, the main ones that, like, I really fuck with, they was already like, this is what they've been doing the whole time. So I was like, okay, I'm gonna make this move. I had came up on that money, and then we went shop. And then that's how that started. It started with weed, but then easily, like, my mother got a sickle cell. She got Percocets galore. She don't like taking them because it caused her don't.

[Mecca]

Like a perk.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, she. It create like. She get real nauseous.

[Jameela]

And you get bad with that. With that oops, I can't do good with.

[Deontay Kyle]

She hated it. And so I was like. I was like, what you gonna do with these? And she was like, I mean, they just in there, like. Like, I gotta refill them every month. I was like, 100 of them hoes. I was like, all right, bet. I was like, she ain't gonna miss them. So I got the perk sets. Then we start, like, when you start dealing with opioids. Yeah, weed. Okay, look, weed is a very, like, easy. It is a gateway even to selling drugs because you deal with some pretty. Like. Like, you deal with people that work and then, you know, this is not, like a thing of, like, people. It's not a functioning addict thing. This is regular.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? When you start dealing with the opioids, you start getting really into the underworld.

[Jameela]

Them is fiends.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is when. This is when the whole demeanor of people and, like, the change.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

The energy shifts. And so then we get into percoces and pills, and then we get into ecstasy. Then we get into crack and then cocaine. And it's like once you. Once you kind of open yourself up to, like, anything goes now. I did. So I will say this. I saw crack for, like, maybe three weeks.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Okay.

[Mecca]

It was too much.

[Deontay Kyle]

It. That's not, as the kids say it, demon time. That's what that is.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's a rough way to make a living, I'll tell you.

[Jameela]

This is crack still cheap in black. What was it? What was the going price of the crack?

[Deontay Kyle]

It was. It was. It was cheap. I mean, I got. They taught me how to cook this shit and Everything. But I mean you talking about five to ten dollars a hit.

[Mecca]

That's why Hunter Biden love it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. It's very cheap, you know what I'm saying? So I think but once you experience like once you sell it in a hotel, you know what I'm saying?

[Jameela]

They needed that right there.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well and then they day started like 11 a. A no p.m. i'm just gonna say it's too early. But also too. You do gotta wake them up and shit like that. They do want wake ups and shit to get their day started. So it's like you encounter you was.

[Mecca]

Really managing the crack.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, it's a, it's a thing like you gotta be, you gotta be available because like the money, once it start, it don't stop. So like I would say around like 6 p. 6am shit slowed down around 11am it start right back. It's steady throughout the day but when that sun go down, that shit is like literally like every 10 minutes.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

All day, all night.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And so this how I like started doing drugs too. Because it's like you stand up so you pop some ecstasy, you with some, you do some coke, whatever, whatever. You don't think about it. You just like this how I'm living. And then it's like oh, this is insane bro. I'm tripping really. I was like let me go back to the. You know, the pills and the weed that I'm used to.

[Jameela]

A little conservative.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna go back to Douglasville. You know, I'm over here on goddamn snap finger selling drugs and like I'm like I'm so far away. I'm so far away from my mama house. I ain't washed my ass in three days.

[Mecca]

It's a too much girl.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, it was, it was a time. But it's also like one of those things where it's like I. I've quite literally came this close to losing my life, losing my freedom. I've caught crazy charges that you know it could have, it could have been raps for me. For me it was like when you start noticing like happen to your friend groups like there's going to be that get addicted to drugs that go from selling drugs to like using full time.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And like like smut like don't respect them, you know what I'm saying? So like somebody that you used to laugh and joke with, you now kind of like in order to kind of be in this fold, you got to be disrespectful. Like get your junk ass up out of Here, bro. Like all that type. But then also too. It's like when times get hard, you see slime each other out. The. The times getting hard for me was like, we used to rob and like that. And that became like a stream of income. Like, shit. All right, well, I could blow this. We gonna go out, we gonna blow all this money. Cause we know a we gonna rock tomorrow. So fuck it, we gonna bank on that. And that's not like a guaranteed way to come up, but it was happening. It is a guaranteed way to make enemies. So you did what I'm saying. So like, I had started living it to a point where it was like anything goes. And I had caught this crazy ass charge and I was facing like 10 years in prison. And it was like if one of them two n I was with would have snitched, I'd have been fucked. You know what I'm saying? But everybody held their own after niggas, like, kept it solid. I was like, oof, this ain't gonna happen twice. I'm done with this street shit.

[Jameela]

I'm done with the life, you know what I'm saying? I hang my jersey.

[Deontay Kyle]

No more clothing, you know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

But it's all smokey.

[Deontay Kyle]

But also too, it's like, you know what I'm saying? This is where it's like, like, okay, I want to get a job. I got, you know, the mother of my children now, you know, we was, we had just got together. She was like, bro, you so talented and smart. Like you above this. Like, just go get a job and figure out how to do your art. Like, she was like, you got enough to rap about. Now you want to be a rapper. She's like, she was. And you ain't got to be no fake ass nigga. Respect you. You got a reputation. All this that. So like, I was like, okay, cool. I'm a rap and I'm a work. And then we had a baby. And then I was working two jobs. Then I had started BET selling weed because it's like we got responsibilities. But I. But I know how to do it in a way where it's like weed is. It's whatever, you know what I'm saying?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Like, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then also too, it's like, I'm not selling like three fives. I'm selling like halves and onions and.

[Jameela]

Like this to your local dad.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jameela]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

Take the edge off to a 45 year old.

[Deontay Kyle]

You feel me?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, you know, though, it's A good clientele based people that's coming to buy half, you know what I'm saying? People that like, help them sleep, they got. They in a relationship and they've been smoking. So they buy an ounce and they don't come to my daddy, you feel me? A lot of my clients, I was like 35 to 50. Yeah. But I met a lot of them through working. Like I work at these restaurants and I don't know, man. I think can see it on me and I can see it on them.

[Jameela]

You got that weed on your brother?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I can see it on though. Like, I'd be like, I'm gonna do something.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? So. But I think once it's like once I started, like, kind of like getting to a point where I was like, okay, I am gonna like, be honest about how I'm living. You know, you get into the warehouse job, you start driving a fort lift. Once I started driving fort lifts in there, we was loading up trucks and I was like, oh, niggas do drive these trucks.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I started picking they brain, like how I do this, this. And that's how I got into driving trucks.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? So it's like the street was always like a place where if I was in a pinch, I know I can go to.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But it ain't something I wanted to rely on. I wanted to like really rise above that. So I was, I would say like 2018, that's when I was like officially like all the way out. I ain't never sold no drugs. I ain't never did since.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. But that was a big part of my life for a long time.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

And I think it gives you a sense of humility.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jameela]

And I think that that translates on camera too. And I think that's also why people feel so comfortable. Because it's like, you not coming from a place of looking down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hell no. I mean, I got. I talked to a nigga on Instagram all the time. Like one of the niggas that was my co defendant, that nigga in prison for a murder right now. Like, he killed the nigga probably like two years after we beat that charge.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Damn.

[Deontay Kyle]

And so it's like, then I got friends that I don't watch, like, become fentanyl addicts. And you know, junkies, like, I know that's still in the street that I talked to that wish they was like, bro, we wish we'd have just took some time to find something else. But this Is my life now. Yeah, like, I got kids.

[Mecca]

You don't got no way out.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, well, you got kids. And to say well also too. It's like this is a certain lifestyle that don't want to give up. You know what I'm saying? It's like the freedom of not having to clock in. The freedom of having, you know, thousands of dollars of disposable income. And also like you got a network. You know, once you get older, you have a network. So the only thing that can fuck the network up is a snitch. But a snitch always is relevant and they always somewhere hiding, waiting to make a deal. So it's like, I think a lot of niggas that I used to fuck with kind of look up to me in the aspect that I went the right way with it, but they also like can't see themselves ever doing it. So it is what it is. But it's also like when you start. Start dying or start killing or go to prison or they become junkies, it's like, bro, like, it ain't nothing in this for me.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, it only gets perpetually worse. You know, it ain't like it started out fun. Cause you young, you don't got no rules you living by. But it's like also that catch up. You robbed a when you was 19 and that caught you when he was 23. And gun Joe ass down. It's like.

[Mecca]

And it's like that.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's like that. Yeah, and it. And it's. And it's always up, up, always. So it's like also too like the bravado that come with it is like you really can't be no. So if you do get if a bit you out, then like, you gotta live with that. You might as well get out the street or. Or like if you're gonna be in the street, niggas gonna be bullying you and handling you, robbing you for fun. You know what I'm saying? So like a lot of for me, it was just like, look, I got a good reputation, you know what I'm saying? Whatever the case may be, however, view me, I don't really got no smut on my name and I just beat the charge. If I'm gonna ever stop doing this, I'm doing it.

[Mecca]

It's right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's gotta be right now. And then it's the first time I'm like, you know what I'm saying? My mama and like, man, bruh, don't understand what that come with. Cause like, man, my mama be dead three in the morning, praying. Like, I be sleep. She praying over a. And she like, damn, when you don't come home, I'll be thinking, I'm gonna turn on news, and they're gonna say, you dead. So it's like, I ain't thinking about the impact that it have on everybody around me either. You feel me? So it's like. It was also, like, a psychological thing, too, where it's like, people start showing you they genuinely care for you, but only when you in trouble.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So, like, you kept these charges and, like, my dad ain't never came on the strength to come see me from North Carolina, but he drove to Atlanta to bail me out of jail. And it's like, damn. Like, you know, so then it fuck you up. Cause, like, this is what I gotta do to get attention from y' all here. Yeah, it's up. You know what I'm saying? But I think the easiest thing for me was just like, recognizing, like, this shit is some bum ass for real. If we not, like, rich off this shit, and we ain't like, we. You not gonna live. Like the movies. Like, most of the niggas that's in the streets ain't got no money.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

So it's really locked for 75.

[Jameela]

It's a different paycheck.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's really some bum shit. You just make your money without having to clock in.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You feel me? Like, so you feel like you don't work for nobody. But you do, though.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

That's the alignment, though, because, you know, you still had the opportunity after you beat the case to kind of go back. And I think it was. It's a testament to you having that discernment to know, like, this is your moment. And I think a lot of things happen to us around us where sometimes we're not really paying attention to a guiding light.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, God.

[Jameela]

And so I think that you probably had a couple of moments.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was in jail. When I was in jail, I would see people. Like, I was seeing, like, people that was like, man, I can't wait to get down the road. Like, I can't wait to get to prison. It's so much better than this that you up then it's like you seeing. That's, like, 60 years old in jail. And, like, they act like that's 20. You know, they think like, that's 20. And even, like, the people that are older and. Oh, geez, that do move like men. They're so. Like, they have no social skills. So, like, the Only time they speak is out of anger. And the only thing they looking for is for somebody to try them. Like, the. The institutionalized part of it, too, is like, something you won't recognize until you go to jail. And so when I was like, damn, bro, I'm, like, full of life and shit still. Like, I like to have fun. I like to hold a good conversation. It's hard to do that in these spaces with niggas that's facing 30 years, 15 years ain't fun.

[Mecca]

Wanna talk?

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't shit funny. Like, the times I was locked up for petty shit like probation violation or a little misdemeanor charge that I'm finna bail out on. But, like, I'm just waiting on the money. Whatever, whatever. And, like, I'm still like, I know I'm going home. When you start being in them spaces where you know you going home and this nigga's in there that ain't going home, it changed our mentality. So when I had. When I was in that position where I didn't know if I was going home or not, and, like, you looking at your bandage and it's a F on that motherfucker, like, that's felony. Like, yeah, it's pimping to go to. If you. You get convicted, you're going to prison. And, like, are, like, prepping me to go to prison. You feel me? And I remember one night, I was just in my bunk, I was like, bro, if God was like, God, if I beat that case, if I can beat this, if I get out this, I swear to God, I'm done with this. And so when I beat it, I was like, I gotta keep my word. And also, too, it's like this divine. Like, bro, don't beat these type of cases, especially no conspiracy. Yeah, it was. It was some. It was some shit. You know what I'm saying? But for it to be. For me to beat the case, and it be like that street code shit, like, niggas just didn't talk. I was like, bruh, that shit ain't gonna happen again. All the stories that niggas is telling me in here is about niggas snitching on them.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So I was like, fuck that shit. I'm done with this shit. Like, I'm straight. I'm too smart to be in this motherfucker, too.

[Mecca]

And I think that translates. Like, when we talk about your podcast being growing so quickly, you have this appeal to both. Like, men so straight, but boys in general. I always be like, that's a Boy podcast. Yeah, girl podcast. But you also have a big female audience because even though you understand, like, you do still have a level of respect for women that translates.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Through your videos on your pod. When we watch your clips on Tick Tock, talk a little bit about that and how flipped it and was talking about you was a panda.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, niggas don't understand that. I like, love my mama, bro. Like, I love my grandma, bro. Like, simple. Like these folks, these women, when. When didn't nobody else, like, have no space for me, have no room for me. And my grandma took me in even when my mom was sick of my shit. And I was like, the way that I will revere my grandmother, like, I love. I love my mama and grandmama, bro. They not here with me no more. So, like, a lot of these shits too. Niggas gotta understand that, like, I donate a lot of my success to having, like, powerful ancestors, bro. My mom and grandma looking out for me. Me, I just love my auntie default raised me. I got two sisters, you know what I'm saying? It's like I got. I got, you know, I'm. I'm married. I was married, so I'm married to a black woman right now. You know what I'm saying? We're going through our. But we married still. No, no, I am. You know what I'm saying? But we went through our separation and like that, you know, we're trying to work that thing back. We trying to get that thing right.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

But you know what I'm saying, I got a. I got a baby girl, I got a daughter. What do niggas be talking about to me? And shout out to Deanna, that's my wife. But yeah, the. The. The thing is, is like, I be trying not to be like, I, you know, I try to kick out my business because. Yeah, but it's like when you're going through in your relationship, that really ain't for everybody. And this had happened before. The crazier thing is this started happening before any of this happened.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So a lot of me, like, dealing with this is like I'm a poe into their work, you know what I'm saying? But either way, shout out to you.

[Jameela]

Put up, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

I really don't need these streets like that. Really don't need you h. Like that. It was fun while it lasted, but it's ghetto outside. It's ghetto. It's nasty also too. It's like, I don't really Where I'm at with it now, I don't really know if I'm gonna make any genuine connection.

[Jameela]

That's real, you know, that's very real.

[Mecca]

We've been on something.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm just being honest people. It's gonna feel genuine. It's gonna feel genuine. And if you looking for, like, something, it's. You'll convince yourself it is stuff out there for sure. But at the same time, it's like.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

And you know, honestly, that's what. One of the things that made me follow. I can't remember what video it was specifically, but I probably have seen you a couple times. I'm all right. Going to follow that nigga real quick.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

Because for me, I'm very, like, hesitant with men. I'm very. I've always been very hesitant when I don't have the experience.

[Deontay Kyle]

This right here, one of the few niggas that I follow because it's like a lot of education is a big part of, like, evolving, right? So, like, if you're not well read or. Or empathetic or like, informed.

[Jameela]

Heavy on empathetic.

[Deontay Kyle]

Informed by something like, greater than yourself, right?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, I. I don't hate my. Hate my mama.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't hate the mother of my children. I'm actually, like, I'm held up by that.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I understand like, a lot of this that I've learned. I've learned from women. You know, the. That will teach you is some. You know what I'm saying? Like, they don't teach you how to. Like, I ain't going to talk to you about, like, skin care, how to take care of yourself. Are you taking your vitamins? Did you drink water today? Did you eat today? Like, you can't. I ain't calling like, this fit straight. I'm gonna call her. You know what I'm saying? I'm calling the woman, like, what this look like? I'm not gonna ask my, like, how this cologne smell like. I'm gonna ask a woman. You feel me? Like, even if I'm doing it for the women.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You feel me? If I'm getting dressed up to impress women that's smelling good for women. I'm ask women. But I think also too, it's like, women are very detail oriented. Where me, I'm very like, big picture risk taker. I understand how to make it work. I might not think about it A to Z. I'm thinking A to B. I got to do this and I'M gonna get this. But the women, women are gonna ask like, okay, but the. Who's the what? The window where the wild.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

How are you gonna make it happen? It can't just be. I'm gonna make it happen. But also some of the most successful women I know, like shout out my home girl Yukila Miley did hair in high school, turned that into a full fledged business. She wanted like premier hairstylists in Atlanta. Like, that's what she do. But she turned something like that she did as like a hobby into like a real business in a real studio. And she do it the old school way. Like she don't call out of appointments and she's washing. She's a real. Oh yeah, yeah, yes. Real shit. We finna record an episode in one of her salons. Like, you know what I'm saying? Just to show her love, because that's the homie. Like, but at the same time, the same time it's like if if are humble enough to be honest, you can't admit that there's so much you can learn from women. And I think a lot of times the things that hate when they, they lose a good woman or they over a good woman or some, or a woman do something bad to them. Because women be pieces of too. Let's keep it real. But how about. No, it is real. It's just honest. Y' all didn't got down.

[Jameela]

Not me and mine, you know, rise up. Remember when that girl said evil bitches rise up.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I called and said this was stud mecca respond. But I, I think the thing that, that this is the thing. Like you miss the service. Like you miss what you miss the benefits of like having somebody actually genuinely give a about you without, you know, sometimes in regard to like even what you can do for them. A lot of niggas is getting, you know, 1000 deals out here. You know, it ain't even 70, 30. Like is getting like, like Max is getting Max deals out here. Like they ain't even really doing. I know it because I in community, you know, I know a lot of people who like, especially women who like will fall in love with a nigga's potential. And I've had to tell like the homegirls, like you thinking about what you would do with this potential. He don't give a about that.

[Jameela]

They don't care.

[Deontay Kyle]

That cool. He got the PF5. He getting some. You got a good job. All you gotta do is watch man, man, all day, man. My boy ain't her fruit snacked. Out, my boy, drinking a bottle of Paul Masan right on the couch.

[Jameela]

And the thing is.

[Deontay Kyle]

And there's some good niggas out here too. I'm not smutting that. But no, we ain't. We ain't gonna do. I know some good niggas. Cause I'd be around some good niggas. But at the same time, it's like, we got poor representation. Our PR is horrible.

[Jameela]

That's the thing. It's really just the representation.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because, yeah, we need better pr, man. So let me.

[Jameela]

Whenever, you know, whenever I go on my, my. I hate rants and things. Something that people always say like, oh, you could tell she don't have no men in her life. It's like, actually, I have the opposite. I have a lot of men in my life that I trust. And that's why I'm like this. I feel like I'm so well rounded because I have a daddy.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think that that's another thing that get lost in the south. Will call me a simp and a pander and like that. But like, bro, you don't know no good women like you. You don't got women that love.

[Mecca]

You don't like your mom.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bro, I be happy. I've had a. I have a life full of women that love me and care for me. You know what I'm saying? And it's like, okay, cool if that's like, I don't hate.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? I With like, I love for real. I could not with because of my daddy.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

True.

[Deontay Kyle]

And not having like a strong presence from my uncles. But like, I know what my cousins is. I know what my best friends is. And like, I know what type of man they is. And me and my father have restored our relationships. And she. But at the same time, it's like through the lack of like that union with me and growing up, I understand the flaws. Because I was a once upon a time too. Yeah, I was a. That was just only trying to something and like, kick it to the curb type like, I'm doing a dirty business. I mean, one time I had sex with a girl first. First day I met her type quick.

[Mecca]

Sometimes you'd be going like that little one night.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then Shaja tried to kiss me. I was like, hey, we ain't kissing. What we doing? I just met you. You gave me head. I fuck. And now it's time to go. It ain't no kissing. We ain't do no kissing before. Why are we trying to kiss now? And she was like. She was like, nigga, I just had your dick in my mouth.

[Jameela]

You know what I mean? Like, she ate that.

[Deontay Kyle]

And in hindsight.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jameela]

Crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I feel like, no, now I'm absolutely kissing Po's head. That's my dick.

[Jameela]

Are you kidding me?

[Mecca]

As we get older, we don't gotta. We don't gotta deal with this as.

[Deontay Kyle]

Much, but I feel like it's nasty time. This is the immoral part.

[Mecca]

Let's talk about sex.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's talk about fucking.

[Mecca]

No, I feel like.

[Deontay Kyle]

So, guys, butt stuff. No, I'm just playing. I'm just playing.

[Jameela]

Please.

[Mecca]

Do you eat ass? But you're married.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes. You do.

[Jameela]

Anyway.

[Deontay Kyle]

Absolutely.

[Mecca]

There was a point.

[Jameela]

What's the point?

[Mecca]

When we were in our door.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'll make a day out of it.

[Mecca]

We not gonna get through the sentence.

[Jameela]

We're never.

[Mecca]

Remember that vine when the boy's like, I guess, like cheesecake throwback.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, it's just not. It's not a horrible part of the body. As long as it's washed, it's clean.

[Jameela]

You know, it's so close to these young bulls.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's right there, bro. All you do is look. You take the legs out same. You just take the legs and push them forward. You're there.

[Jameela]

Message from the panderer.

[Mecca]

Catch it.

[Jameela]

I want to stick on Panda for a little bit longer because.

[Mecca]

Not pussy.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was ready for the pussy talk, Right?

[Jameela]

I'm sure we won't circle back. I'm sure we'll get back there. You know what was funny for me is it's always funny to see how other people interpret things, because sometimes you'll watch something and interpret it and then move on. And you don't really think too much about it. Like, I've seen the clip lip before it reached Panda or Tick Tock. And I was just like, typical deontay. Like, it didn't register as anything abnormal than you've said before. So I was, okay, whatever.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Cool.

[Jameela]

Engage and go. And so when I seen it come back around on Twitter, you know, that's Twitter. Twitter will let you know where people are thinking. So when I seen it brought back.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's the fucking bane of my.

[Jameela]

Existence, I said, got it. Okay, here. Here we have this. This situation. And it was like, wow, There is truly a disconnect between the conversations of.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Of.

[Jameela]

Of women and men. And I think that having you say something like that, which I appreciate it because we don't hear a lot of that. I was like, this is the issue that we have Right now, words mean things.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay. Accountability and responsibility are not the same.

[Jameela]

And I think that people don't know that.

[Mecca]

It's very.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, it became. It came extremely evident.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm saying the. The police that I encounter are accountable to the police that I've encountered before.

[Jameela]

Hello.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Because this is my experience with y'.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

All.

[Deontay Kyle]

Did you do it to me personally? Are you responsible for it? No. Yeah, but you are held to account for sure, because this is my. This is your track record with me. So you can only imagine. I mean, I get tagged in videos every day. Yeah, Every day of you not being able to take rejection and threatening the lives of women.

[Jameela]

Hello.

[Deontay Kyle]

Threatening to hit them with objects, following them in cars because they said they don't want you number. And I was wrong. I'm a pander.

[Jameela]

You know what I mean?

[Mecca]

And you just be normal.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just. Just take the note with grace. It's cool, bro. Do you know how many women there are? There's a lot of them. There's a lot of them.

[Jameela]

We actually outnumber y'.

[Deontay Kyle]

All. There's actually women out here who are experiencing touch deprivation. If you could only just stop being weird. If only you might touch some cooch.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

And you hit on it a little bit early. It's a lack of empathy. Because on one end where we had the conversation, so now it was becoming a conversation. Right? So on one end, you have men who are trying to be like, nah, like, I'll fuck with Deontay, but like, I ain't gonna be held responsible for other. You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'll.

[Jameela]

I'll look out for me and mine. It's like, okay, so here's the thing. You have the concept. You actually are. You're actually running into the point.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're knocking on the motherfucking nigga.

[Jameela]

You're actually right there. And then on the other end, you have women who has given their real life experiences of how they've been violated by men and how they. They feel a distrust with men of. Of what's going on. And again, mirrored the conversation of what you had about how it's very similar to how black folks feel against white people.

[Deontay Kyle]

Real. I'm telling you, it was a clear analogy. One thing about me is that you ain't gonna get lost on the road.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna give you the roadmap, and I'm gonna give you every step along the way. I'm gonna make analogies. I'm gonna use metaphors. I'M gonna use all of these literary devices to bring my point home. And if the illiterate it.

[Mecca]

The teachers unt told us the kids can't read.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but, but the adults can't we.

[Mecca]

20 years removed, like we said, from the children bush left behind.

[Deontay Kyle]

So here's the thing, right? I, I, I, I understand the sentiment. I understand the knee jerk reaction to feeling like somebody's stepping on my toes, somebody's accusing me of something I have nothing to do with.

[Jameela]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

So my response is that of defense. But we have to like, really, you know, and especially to my out there, like, if we're gonna say like, well, women are emotional and men we're rational, then like, why are you being so emotional?

[Mecca]

Why are you yelling?

[Deontay Kyle]

Why are you yelling? Because. Well, because it's the default emotion. So it's a standard. It doesn't register as an emotion when it's the only expression, you know?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

So like, I think the thing is, is like if you would use your rationale and just listen to what I'm saying and listen to understand. And also like, come on, King, you think I need to do this to get some pussy, man?

[Jameela]

And that was the other part. Back to the pussy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look at the drip. It's 2025. I got on a NASCAR A's hat, nigga. Come on, cuz, you know I'm getting some ass out here, man. You know what I'm saying?

[Jameela]

But I think, and it's because they themselves, this is why I think I tweeted this. The reason you guys think that deontay is pandering for P is because that's what you have to do to get it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, God. Well, then also too, it's like you're talking to a man that have like taken care of a woman and a kid since I was 20 years old and with little to no help. And the help that I have got have come from our community, like our family. And it was in times of real need and they was willing to extend the need because I was provisionary. And Stephen is about being a great dad and a husband. So they seen that. It's like, okay, this young nigga needs some help. We're gonna help him out. But also too, it's just like, you know, just don't be intellectually dishonest about what this shit is. You know what I'm saying? You know what? I ain't saying that wrong. Yeah, it's just like you want to be a fuck nigga and that's on you.

[Jameela]

And they were waiting on your downfall.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man. And guess what?

[Jameela]

I knew this nigga was. I knew it was gonna wait. That nigga.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you knew. If you knew. If you knew how up it was.

[Jameela]

Nigga, he ain't got the panda for the puss.

[Mecca]

I was going to say with the.

[Jameela]

P. More of the story. You get it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Also, too. But, bro, we love, though, bro. You know what I'm saying? We open arms, but with some.

[Jameela]

And it's never too late.

[Deontay Kyle]

But with hands too, though. Okay, well, now I'm saying just in case, you know?

[Jameela]

No, just in case. For sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just in case.

[Mecca]

Can't take none of this.

[Jameela]

It get like. It do get like that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, we can do it with open eyes. We can do it with closed fist, bruh. It's whatever.

[Jameela]

Whatever you want to do.

[Deontay Kyle]

How are we going to do it?

[Jameela]

It's never change your mind.

[Deontay Kyle]

I would prefer a genuine embrace, man. You know, we all. We all black.

[Jameela]

It's a couple of you on the hit list. Well, next I don't want. Let's dive into.

[Mecca]

Some of you get slapped.

[Jameela]

Let's dive into.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, it's some. You know what I'm saying?

[Jameela]

We can't even.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's some out here, man, you know what I'm saying?

[Jameela]

That I'll never forget.

[Deontay Kyle]

I didn't seen you fall off. Please, you don't put my name in your mouth. Oh, now we can't find you. Where'd he go?

[Jameela]

Yikes. My name too, by the way.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, man, guess what, man.

[Jameela]

God, you got a two for one.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta understand that God really loves me.

[Jameela]

Listen, he don't play.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't be when I be just saying I'm blessed and highly favored. It's not just a saying, it's a fact. Remember that. Believe it. Fuck. Bask in it.

[Jameela]

Jesus saves, not me. Okay, let's get into some music. Shit. Have you always seen music playing a.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Part in your career?

[Deontay Kyle]

Absolutely, man. You know, I wanted to be a rapper, man. You know, I have done all the negro things.

[Jameela]

You have.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Have you seen it?

[Deontay Kyle]

I sold drugs then. I rapped. Forklift, cdl, podcast, the Pipeline. I am a nigger. I am a nigger through and through and through.

[Jameela]

That is the pipeline.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, I'm telling you, Brad, I haven't hit all the accomplishments, you know what I'm saying? In a successful way now. So we're gonna. We're gonna. I'm not. I'm not gonna say I'll rap again. I'm 35, you know what I'm saying? I'm not saying it's too old to rap. I'm saying it's too old to start back.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

But you know what? You know, I feel like you kind of have a cheat code, though, because it ain't even like you starting from the garage. You got. You can go to the studio for real. You can really link up with some people, and I think. Think that'll be cool to see you. I think. I don't think you're gonna ever stop rapping. You. You know what I'm saying? Like, people who love something, you don't ever stop, even if it's not gonna be your main thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

I would do it for fun, for sure. There's been some discussions about putting together, you know, all the music that I've ever done on, like, one big compilation tape. You're just putting it out so people will have access to it. But also, too, it's like. Like, somebody just asked me to do a feature for them. I with them. You know what I'm saying? Shout out my hashi sunju. So I would do that. Like, I with.

[Jameela]

I do it.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? But it would never be something that, like, I'm trying to tour.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, I do, like, some. I don't know if y' all know who this is. Super duper rap, boy, but, like, Mac, homie. Y' all see, this is where we lose the women.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Jameela]

Yeah, but one of them backpack rappers.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He know the brand. Yeah. He be selling, like, vinyls for, like, twelve hundred dollars.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And them shits be selling out because that nigga's an immaculate rapper. He just raps to the boys, though. You know what I'm saying?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes.

[Jameela]

Y' all have a community.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

You know, and that leads us into our next question. Now, this Grits and eggs, y'. All focus on music. And since we're girls, we like rap, too, but we like female rap. So I want to know, who are your favorite female rappers first?

[Deontay Kyle]

I. I ain't gonna hold you. I like glow. Like, big glow. Glow. Really?

[Mecca]

Glow was fun. That last album was really good.

[Deontay Kyle]

She be rapping, though. Like, be missing them bars and like that. Of course. Like Audie Audemars.

[Jameela]

Hey, baby. That tape go crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, that is hard. Like, genuinely. Yeah, I won't lie. Like, I like. Like Rico, Nasty little Sims, Dochi, everybody know. I love, though, for sure, though.

[Mecca]

She's so lyrical, actually.

[Deontay Kyle]

I actually have a crush on Doji.

[Jameela]

Who doesn't?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, it's really pretty. She's gorgeous.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

She has the package. She's. She's the. She's like an it girl.

[Mecca]

Like, she has a factor.

[Jameela]

She makes me excited.

[Deontay Kyle]

I know that I would be willing. What, you don't want me to leave the house?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

This podcast, girl, you gonna form my lifestyle. Okay, I'm in the swamp.

[Mecca]

Where are the alligators at?

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, my gosh. I guess I'm over here raising the alligators.

[Jameela]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

But nah, it's like. It's some. We was talking about shot it earlier. Kinderman.

[Jameela]

Kinderman.

[Deontay Kyle]

She hard. She hard. It's cool, you know, like, when I come across it, I ain't gonna sit here. Like, I be seeking it out, but when I come. When it come across my radar, I'll be with it.

[Mecca]

Do you have any, like, old school rappers that you listen to? Because I know sometimes when you talk about music, it's like y' all talk about Jay Z. Like, oh, like 90s.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, look, man, I ain't gonna hold you, man. Look, Kim was my. You know, Lil Kim and Foxy.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

That.

[Deontay Kyle]

But. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Missy elliott.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes. Yes.

[Mecca]

757 Simon.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes. Yes.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

She's so.

[Deontay Kyle]

Missy is the blueprint.

[Jameela]

She's the one. And she's so, like, we always talk about her rapping, but, like, her production, her writing energy, like, she's so creative. Like, damn, that's a lady right there, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

And she, like, high key, fine. And also could dress like a motherfucker. Also cool. She just cool as fuck. Like, bro, there is a factor, I think, that n don't give enough, like, gravity to that, that some are just so cool, bro, that it's just like, yeah, you going to win, cuz you cool as a.

[Jameela]

You had to be Missy, but you too goddamn cool.

[Deontay Kyle]

Who could have pulled off a trash bag? Who? Tell me.

[Jameela]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Tell me who brought Hefty back. You know what I'm saying?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

I want to know, curiously speaking, what show Rushmore of actor. I mean, not actors of rappers, period. Yeah, I want to know your period.

[Mecca]

Because I want to talk about when we was in LA and that young man said Garbo was the best rapper.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay. All right.

[Mecca]

But we gonna let you do your. But before we piss, because he already getting sweaty.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, so. So this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do Teenage Kyle.

[Jameela]

Okay, that's fair.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, when I'm really listening to, like, this is my guys. And then I'm gonna do my current. It ain't gonna be no like of all time. This is just my personal two out of 2010. Jay Z, Lil Wayne, Gucci Mane, TR period.

[Mecca]

And that's very 2010.

[Deontay Kyle]

That is me. That's what I'm 2010. 2025. Freddie Gibbs, Schoolboy Q, Kendrick Lamar. Four spot is always tough. I ain't gonna lie. I might still go Jay Z. I love Jay Z. I mean, a really good rapper. Like, God, really good. Absolutely.

[Jameela]

I love when he makes me feel poor, bro.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's amazing.

[Jameela]

I love it with you.

[Mecca]

Like, your list, like, matured with you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, absolutely.

[Mecca]

Like, they. They were different people, but they're like your age mates in each like section.

[Deontay Kyle]

Absolutely. Yeah. I think Jay Z just for me, you know, purely on an artistic level. He's one of the first rappers that I saw. Like, his music grew.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

His message grew, but the quality of it, the rapping of it all stayed top tier. Like, niggas are looking for a 4, 4, 4 from multiple artists that they might not get it from.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, for sure. But we don't get. In my opinion, we don't get. Call me if you get lost. We don't get Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers without 444.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

That's fair.

[Mecca]

You can see that pipeline. I see that.

[Jameela]

And honestly, one of my favorite things about music specifically is watching artists grow. That's one of the genres. That's one of the careers where you can really watch. And it's archivable to watch them grow and mature. And that's one of my favorite things about music. And just watching those people change. And it's like, wow, your messaging can sometimes change, but it's still a little bit of that beginning.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay. Yes. I put Jay Z as my like, Statue of Liberty and then, yeah. My current Rushmore and on. And on my fourth Mount Rushmore, I would put Matt, homie. Yeah, yeah. Do the. Do the Knowledge on Mac, homie. I like Earl Sweatshirt too, but if. But it's some niggas out here. These niggas be rapping now, bro.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And. And I think that like we look at like the clips thing happening is a perfect timing because people like, oh, niggas are rapping again. No. Have been rapping.

[Jameela]

Been rapping. It's just becoming more in the front.

[Deontay Kyle]

Haven't the who be rapping? Don't go sit down with the media outlets because the clips is very like commercially successful rap group.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So they're gonna get all the benefits of like the Rollout and the media that somebody like a mic or a navy blue or Earl sweatshirt or event Staples won't get, but be rapping, dawg.

[Mecca]

Yeah, niggas be rapping. Now, I want to tell you guys a quick story that happened a couple weeks ago in la. We were filming with grits and eggs, and there was a young man there. And who was there?

[Jameela]

It was you.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Cool.

[Mecca]

It was someone else, I think the other boys, but he was. I didn't realize how young he was until he started talking. Yeah, and that's, you know, that's what we'll do with sometimes. Sometimes boys just all be looking, blah. I don't know. I don't know.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Asians.

[Mecca]

But, like, when he started talking, I don't even know how I came up.

[Jameela]

I just got to be a baby.

[Deontay Kyle]

No.

[Mecca]

And then when he said, G herbo, the greatest rapper alive, I wasn't even in the conversation.

[Jameela]

I just turned around. Excuse me.

[Mecca]

Not only are you around, O heads. Respectfully.

[Deontay Kyle]

Respectfully. But you're around as far as, like, rap. Like, being a rap fan. 35. You a o head. That's real. I didn't realize how young this nigga was either. But when that nigga said G herbo.

[Jameela]

First of all, everybody had.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, it's part of the marathon. I'm talking like, Tia Tamara song. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's cool. I fought with that. I like that.

[Mecca]

It was like Herb had to cry, like.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but the fool was crying like, bum Tang ain't scared of that. That's so hard. That nigga snapping. That nigga was snapping.

[Mecca]

Summertime and kept his leg.

[Deontay Kyle]

He kept it, too. He was hitting his ass. Cool Pump sound like. Yeah, but the pooh sound like, Blue Jay ain't scared of nothing. That was a hard bar. It was great rhyme pattern. You're not the best rhyme. What are we talking. What are we talking about? Also, too. This is a. With an original thought, and I respect that.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

No, and I.

[Jameela]

And I like, oh, you mean that for sure.

[Mecca]

I did respect how he stood on business because not only were y', all, like, old heads, comparatively, y' all are also very musically inclined.

[Deontay Kyle]

So the way that we was, like, you're a dumbass.

[Jameela]

Now y' all was going in. Shut the up. Let me ask you, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shut your little dumb ass up. Little. Like, we was actually getting angry with him. I know.

[Mecca]

That's why I was saying, like, he was sitting there. And the way, like I said when he said it, we all turned around and was all of a sudden, the conversation. But the way y' all started congregating around him, questioning him by his top three, I'm like, that poor baby. And then I interjected, how old are you and where are you from? Well, he was like, 23, and he's from Chicago.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

So I said, ah, there we go.

[Deontay Kyle]

Everybody in the room was like.

[Jameela]

There'S.

[Deontay Kyle]

The missing piece, and there has to be in Chicago.

[Mecca]

Right. He said his number two was Kanye.

[Deontay Kyle]

Kanye.

[Jameela]

Yeah. You know, and as a former Kanye stand.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is what I love about you not gonna tell them about their city.

[Jameela]

You're not.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because when I just put TI on my mountain, Rushmore, you notice how nobody questioned it?

[Jameela]

I ain't gonna. I tweeted it the other day. I tweeted the other day TI Top five. I don't care. TI Hello.

[Deontay Kyle]

From I'm serious. Come on to. What's the album after King?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Is it. Is it two?

[Deontay Kyle]

Is it TI it's the one before TI Versus Tip. Whatever. That album Paper Trail.

[Jameela]

Okay.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

From I'm serious to Paper Trail. There are no misses. This was rapping his ass off.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Urban legend. First of all, fun fact about deontay. After two tequila and ginger beers, I'm gonna get on the karaoke and rap ASAP every time. That is my go to karaoke song. Also too.

[Jameela]

Bring back the bands on the track.

[Deontay Kyle]

Also too. Like, niggas don't understand that is a. They have that in every karaoke serato ASAP by TI and the lyrics will show up. I don't need the lyrics. I know that shit. I'm crying and I'm getting on n. Like, if they not enthused like, bitch, you better get into this.

[Jameela]

Yeah. You hear what the fuck I'm playing. Yeah, that's. And I re. Fall in love with TI As I get older, too. Cause we like. Yo, I was here like. Like, damn. This really got hits on hits on his. And he was really spitting.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was in the studio with David Banner and T And and Absol. When he came down and in walks TI I ain't gonna lie.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

A little fangirl moment.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Hey.

[Deontay Kyle]

I kept it composed.

[Mecca]

Kept it composed.

[Deontay Kyle]

Did not let that out.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Shook his hand like a man. Big fan of your work that we pushing.

[Mecca]

Thank you, Clifford.

[Jameela]

But hey, I seen him at Lex Andreas premiere. I just. I had to look at him from far. I said, not today. I'll see you again later.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'mma see you again.

[Jameela]

I'mma see you again.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is Atlanta, and I will see you Again.

[Jameela]

I will see you again.

[Deontay Kyle]

First impression. Yeah, fan out.

[Jameela]

But next time, I'mma tell you, I.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain'T going to lie. I was just like, I'm on my grind. Grand hustle. Got the mind in the muscle, you know? You know what's funny about this? I was like, what if I just bust out of 16 right now? Let this nigga know what time my mom.

[Mecca]

Like, freestyle.

[Deontay Kyle]

Real? No, not freestyle. His.

[Mecca]

Hello say freestyle.

[Jameela]

And who wants me on the spot?

[Deontay Kyle]

You want me to. No, I'm not. That's so. That's so crazy to do to a.

[Jameela]

Like, I can't even keep up.

[Deontay Kyle]

So we've been talking about rapping, right? Spill. 16.

[Jameela]

No.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can't believe this was 2004. That would be.

[Jameela]

And I was going to say the fact that they was doing that like this. Don't put on the beat. Wait. Huh? I can't even think that fast. I'm like, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna hold you. I started fighting niggas, bro.

[Jameela]

When Vince said, I'm not doing that shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's. Cause he right. Cause that is coonery.

[Jameela]

And I think he started a trend. Cause I ain't seen a freestyle since he said, unless you sway, nigga, I'm not giving you that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, it's certain platforms where you would go to rap. Like the Justin Credible Justin. First of all, let's talk about. Sorry. I get very boyish. Saha, the prince just dropped the freestyle. Jesus fucking Christmas. Hmm. We'll save that for my podcast, Shout.

[Jameela]

Out to the boys.

[Deontay Kyle]

Women don't know what's going on. So let's steer this conversation back to what you was talking about.

[Jameela]

Pussy.

[Mecca]

No, I was gonna say, to your point about not questioning the route rush more because we're in Atlanta. I don't know if y' all remember that period on TikTok when they were calling me E40 and it was like, that was not.

[Deontay Kyle]

I did participate in that.

[Mecca]

And I know you did. That was like the first time I actually interacted with you.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was so funny, though, because it's like, damn. They really.

[Mecca]

But the thing is that's like. That would be like getting the equivalent of like. You sound like T.I.

[Jameela]

Well, okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, okay.

[Mecca]

You know, so, like, it just.

[Deontay Kyle]

The thing is about E40 is just like. It is. It is debate, but it is so animated. Like, what you gonna do?

[Mecca]

No. Talk like that, though. I don't think.

[Jameela]

No.

[Mecca]

I don't think people realize how them Bay Boys really be talking.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Oh, yeah.

[Mecca]

And, like, it'll be A whole bunch of gibberish. And it's like, oh, I understood exactly what that just said.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jameela]

No, that's.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it's like, yeah, because it'd be like from Mississippi talking. And people like, what does he sound like?

[Jameela]

I'll be knowing every goddamn word.

[Deontay Kyle]

Actually, he's saying perfect standard.

[Jameela]

Yeah, that was like very clear.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

I don't know.

[Jameela]

That was very clear.

[Mecca]

Excuse me. You thicker than peanut butter in the freezer. Like a. You got stupid dookie maker. Like, it was sexy.

[Jameela]

Like, what y' all be. Even the scenes, it's like on top of the accent, y' all be having crazy ass word combinations. Like, what the. Like what? First of all, run that back.

[Mecca]

If anyone cares, he's from Richmond, California. Them guys.

[Jameela]

What? Richmond.

[Deontay Kyle]

Richmond.

[Jameela]

Hey, shout out to coach Carter. One of my favorite movies. One of my favorite movies.

[Deontay Kyle]

He got a stupid dookie maker.

[Mecca]

Stupid dookie maker.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm on that. I'm driving that bar tonight. Got a stupid dookie maker. This might throw a drink in my face if I'm in Atlanta.

[Mecca]

I mean, that's what I'm saying.

[Jameela]

Regionally.

[Deontay Kyle]

But y' all do have a pimp culture out there. Having heavily influenced.

[Mecca]

I actually wrote a college essay on. On this. Like how pimp culture has influenced all of black culture. And because in our slang, in how you see things like, oh, you a blade. Well, that could be talking about the track, the hostro. Or it's like, you're a simp. That nigga's a blade. Or it's like, if I'm like, it's pimping. His pimping. Oh, tricking is not something that's crazy. I knew girls who were tricking.

[Jameela]

We were like in high school. That's horrible.

[Mecca]

But like, quite literally horrible. But it's very, very normalized.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mecca]

Boyfriend pimping is very regular crazy as.

[Deontay Kyle]

And also like, pimps do got like immaculate vernacular. You know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

They do. You have to be.

[Jameela]

That was a part.

[Deontay Kyle]

You have to. There has to be some hypnotic, like, trance like state that you put somebody in to get them to sell their vagina for you.

[Jameela]

Oh, yes.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Because this is not an easy. This is not an easy ask.

[Jameela]

It's not.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

You have to have a game, like.

[Deontay Kyle]

Some ask for sugar, you know? Do y' all got some extra bread I need you to sell for me?

[Jameela]

I actually, from time to time.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, actually on a daily basis. And also too, I violence if you don't make the money violence, man.

[Jameela]

And I'm gonna take the majority of your money.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm gonna have you straight.

[Jameela]

You gonna be looking, but you'll be all right. You'll have a place.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm your daddy now.

[Mecca]

I'm gonna call you my woman.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Also too short said, what's my favorite word in the whole club? Says bitch.

[Jameela]

Bitch.

[Mecca]

He is quite literally referring to pimping you guys. And he's calling her a.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you.

[Mecca]

If fast, like a nascar. That's talking about a woman.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was gonna present this like a documentary.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I don't want to do it anymore.

[Jameela]

Niggas are so.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, because it's like he's quite literally. Because like the way you said it, like he's quite literally talking about a woman. He's like, that's hilarious. Like, if you, if you watch them in their natural habitat, they're over deeply selling vaginas.

[Mecca]

Oh, and that's a thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

And if you look into the shadows, you'll notice her pimp sitting there in the cut, staring viciously, awaiting, waiting for his his currency to come flowing his way that come over here and say some cool.

[Mecca]

So you're not a pimp cuz he gave you a crazy transition?

[Admin Earth]

My uncle was a pimp. I grew up around. My grandfather was a pimp in New York.

[Mecca]

In New York?

[Admin Earth]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

Pimping in New York when it's cold.

[Admin Earth]

From Long Island Hempstead.

[Mecca]

Okay, Long Island. This is random, but Long island doesn't get respect. But I know that because to Wuang.

[Admin Earth]

Clan island, we really influenced a lot.

[Mecca]

Of like one of my homegirls in college was from Long Island. It was like she was so she was like, I love being from Long Island.

[Admin Earth]

Long Island. I, I, I don't really consider myself from Long Island. I was born there, but I was raised in Atlanta.

[Mecca]

Oh, so you're atlian.

[Admin Earth]

I'll be back and forth. So much so I felt like that's.

[Jameela]

A very specific archetype in Atlanta. Y the people who moved here from.

[Deontay Kyle]

New York and I think y' all.

[Jameela]

Moved out here around the same time.

[Mecca]

Honestly, all the south has like that archetype because being in Virginia, we had a lot of New York.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's like a reverse of the great migration.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

And they came back because they expensive.

[Mecca]

Because you getting pushed out.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

And they gotta remind you they from New York. This country ass shit.

[Admin Earth]

See, I was never that nigga, though. Cause it's like I love Atlanta. And plus like, I feel like the Whole argument of where you're from is strange if you wasn't raised there. Like, I can't really claim it because it's like I got into my first fight here. I had my first romance here. I can't really be.

[Mecca]

You went to middle school and high school here. You're from here.

[Admin Earth]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jameela]

I hate niggas like that. You know, I feel a little differently.

[Mecca]

Because I was gonna say, you know, she.

[Jameela]

She moved when she was mine. I. I've been here since middle school as well. But it just. It still feels weird saying that I'm from here because, like, I'm. It's just me and my family, my immediate family. You know what I'm saying?

[Admin Earth]

Like, I feel like if I can't remember upon.

[Jameela]

It was. It was a. It was not a fire.

[Mecca]

Parents, you don't have no control.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Everything is thrust.

[Jameela]

Yeah, it was.

[Admin Earth]

I feel like I can't remember enough to be like.

[Jameela]

Yeah, okay. I was gonna say I still very much like I had. There was a whole life. It's just like a pre and post type of thing.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

And it's like, of course my whole family still live out there. I've always have gone back. Like, I still have a connection, a tie to back home. But I still. I also claim here. You know what I'm saying? It's like I claim both.

[Deontay Kyle]

I feel it.

[Admin Earth]

I. I'm the same. I claim both because I've lived out there for extended periods of time when I've left here. But again, it's just like, I'm so Atlanta.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

I'm so atl.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not to be that, but I really am.

[Jameela]

Nah, Atlanta was definitely pivotal for, like, my development for sure. Like, and especially I think about specifically on the music front, too, as we was talking about music, because by the time I came out here, man, we talking about, you know, a specific time, like you talking about from 2008. That's a time to be in Atlanta. Hell, like, that was some. That was some good music.

[Admin Earth]

I'm grateful, though, for the. The New York Atlanta combination, because I feel like I got the best of both. Both cultures.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Admin Earth]

And was able to actually experience.

[Mecca]

Are you Caribbean?

[Admin Earth]

See it? No. I don't know.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

I'm a.

[Mecca]

Do you do music?

[Admin Earth]

I do.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Jameela]

Sorry, you didn't introduce yourself. Oh, that's what I was saying.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hello.

[Jameela]

There's a reason we did kind of just hear you from.

[Admin Earth]

My name is Admin Earth. That's what I go by. Admin Earth.

[Jameela]

Admin.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Period.

[Jameela]

And tell the people what you kind of is.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah.

[Admin Earth]

You know, I be babbling esoteric and whimsical nonsense.

[Mecca]

What is. So it's because Deontay walked in and said you was whimsical. You're whimsical with the music or you whimsical with your content?

[Admin Earth]

I'm whimsical with my content. I'm not even primarily focused on music right now.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Admin Earth]

Like, most people don't even know I make music.

[Mecca]

Oh, it's just a little side gig.

[Admin Earth]

It's not even a side gig. It's just like I started making content, and the content started going so crazy that it was like, I'm gonna keep.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Admin Earth]

Being persistent at this.

[Mecca]

And you rap.

[Admin Earth]

And then at some point I'll be like, okay, period. But people have been discovering my music, so.

[Mecca]

So I love that you're whimsical. This leads us into something that we're going to end up asking Deontay, what are your style inspirations? Something that. Let me. Let me introduce this better fashion.

[Deontay Kyle]

Fashion.

[Mecca]

Something that people say I'm not known for, but ever since that shit popped.

[Admin Earth]

Off, I've seen them hating on you.

[Mecca]

You know, it's something that has really become an interest of mine. I've become extremely interested at the intersections of how we our experience shape how we dress, how politics, like, politics shape how we dress society. And so I want to know, like, you walked in here, whimsical vibe. What are your inspirations? What kind of influences your aesthetic and, like, what experiences caused you to get here here?

[Admin Earth]

My inspirations, aesthetically are, to be honest, street, because I grew up around street, so it's like, to both New York and Atlanta, it's like street wear. But also, I would say I grew up, like, with a very eclectic older brother who was putting me on to actual fashion. So, like that whole ASAP Rocky era, I was literally there. Like, I was in New York.

[Mecca]

Oh, wow.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Admin Earth]

So like that whole wave. So I'm inspired by literally fashion wise or aesthetic wise. I'm inspired by everything. Like, if you go through my phone, it's just like a bunch of random Japanese and.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah, but I can see that.

[Admin Earth]

That silhouettes especially.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Admin Earth]

We're also inspired by, like, the way it fits than what it is period.

[Mecca]

And that's important silhouette of the way.

[Admin Earth]

It fits my body opposed to, like, what I'm putting on my body.

[Mecca]

Do you have, like, preferred brands or anything like that?

[Admin Earth]

Oh, yeah. I like a lot of Japanese. I just made a video about that, actually. I like Junior Watanabe Yoji Yamamoto. Like, a lot of Japanese, these designers.

[Jameela]

They have a really lot of well constructed song.

[Mecca]

They must be dressing very well about.

[Admin Earth]

The way they create things.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Admin Earth]

So I I with that dope.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Period.

[Mecca]

I love that you really answered my question.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes, Period.

[Jameela]

Oh, and I did ask. I don't know if you heard me, your music. You rap, you sing or what?

[Admin Earth]

All right.

[Jameela]

Rap.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Period.

[Jameela]

Spit a 16.

[Mecca]

Right now.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Period.

[Admin Earth]

I'll be rapping. Yeah, like, actually, hello, niggas.

[Deontay Kyle]

Don't be rapping.

[Admin Earth]

I'll be rapping.

[Jameela]

But I love the arrogance of a rapper.

[Deontay Kyle]

I like when the bravado. When they come to rapping.

[Admin Earth]

I be chilling and I'm like, that's not rock.

[Jameela]

That's gonna rap so bad. Cause it seems so fun. But I can't. I wanna be like a. It is him.

[Admin Earth]

But the funniest thing about rapping, especially, like, when you really a rapper is like, the worst shit will inspire you to write a verse. Like, somebody will do you dirty and.

[Deontay Kyle]

You be like, fuck.

[Mecca]

I just.

[Jameela]

Cause it's an outlet. But like, when I finally memorize a verse, I feel so powerful and I wish I wrote it. Like, I want to be a rapper too, guys. Let me be a rapper.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's cool.

[Mecca]

Just be a ghostwriter or something.

[Jameela]

I'm gonna be a ghostwriter if I can't rap.

[Mecca]

I mean, you could get a ghostwriter.

[Admin Earth]

Actually, I would love to be a ghostwriter now that I'm okay.

[Jameela]

Write me some raps. All right. Rapping.

[Mecca]

I want to be. You can be a ghost. Like a songwriter, too.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Too.

[Mecca]

They do the same work.

[Admin Earth]

I would actually love to do that because I don't really wanna. It's like I'm already seen enough through the content, which I'm kind of adjusting to.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Admin Earth]

But I don't know how I feel about being, like a super huge artist. Yeah. Like, and then especially for somebody like me, I don't.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't.

[Admin Earth]

Again, like, my whole whimsical thing. It's just like, I'm not like, rapper core. Like, oh, yeah, I'm a rapper. It's like.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

I just thought of this question. When you say you were inspired by Japanese, like, culture and their fashions, are you big on anime?

[Admin Earth]

Yeah, I fuck with anime.

[Mecca]

Okay. Because that's usually the pipeline.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

I'm just.

[Admin Earth]

Yeah, I fuck with anime heavily. But that's also weird.

[Mecca]

That's a weird thing.

[Jameela]

It can tell you something.

[Mecca]

I used to.

[Jameela]

With an anime ass, it could go one or two ways. You could Be weird. A who likes anime and an anime.

[Mecca]

And you don't want no anime. You want a who wants anime.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes.

[Admin Earth]

But I'm not gonna lie though. As far as, like, I would say I am an anime because I was there for the inception. So it's like I seen Naruto when.

[Deontay Kyle]

It came out on One Piece, but.

[Admin Earth]

I wasn't Naruto running through the hallway.

[Deontay Kyle]

We were.

[Jameela]

Like, me.

[Mecca]

You were running through the hall like, yeah, that.

[Admin Earth]

They telling me what that.

[Jameela]

So before we get you out of here, go ahead and tell everybody where they can find you.

[Admin Earth]

Admin Earth on everything. Tik tok.

[Mecca]

Fill it out.

[Admin Earth]

A D M I n Earth as an administration. Yeah.

[Jameela]

Administer.

[Mecca]

I just want to meditate with you. Adminearth.

[Jameela]

I know you be into some crystals and incense.

[Mecca]

You like candles?

[Admin Earth]

That was my early development. Spirituality.

[Jameela]

I know. Oh, I can smell it on you. I just know I can sense a spiritual nigga from a mile away. All right.

[Mecca]

I just had to. Before we let you go, Jamila made a point. Nerd dick. Have you ever had a woman in the bushes?

[Admin Earth]

The bushes?

[Deontay Kyle]

Bushes.

[Mecca]

The bushes. Because one thing about anime.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cyber bushes.

[Mecca]

Cyber bushes.

[Admin Earth]

Cyber bushes.

[Mecca]

Oh, like she was talking you on social.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

Did you. What the is you talking about.

[Deontay Kyle]

Allegorically.

[Admin Earth]

Like, not in the bushes, not in.

[Mecca]

The bushes, but the cyber bushes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

So we're talking about how, like, anime who like anime tend to be good at good.

[Jameela]

Get to the bush.

[Mecca]

I asked him, has he ever had a woman in the bush? He said, cyber bushes, as in stalking him on socials.

[Jameela]

Okay. Because I, I thought the woods as in in the woods, which anime would do. So I was like, he's thinking possibly. And then you said, did you Minecraft? Like, I'm like now. Okay.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes. Really?

[Admin Earth]

But yeah, I think with me though, I, I. When it comes to women, I'm pretty. I'm really good at communication.

[Jameela]

So even if watch out for this.

[Admin Earth]

Even if there's like a. A falling out, I'm very good at mitigating bushes happening.

[Mecca]

Your nails are done.

[Admin Earth]

Yeah, Correct.

[Jameela]

Now I need more information. I'm about to guess your sign in a minute. You just keep talking. I got a couple options.

[Admin Earth]

We'll see if you gonna get it right.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

When you see a with his manicure, you go talk to him.

[Jameela]

Are you a Taurus?

[Deontay Kyle]

No.

[Admin Earth]

A lot of people assume that.

[Mecca]

Oh, so you know, you get that energy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

You very much read as a Taurus.

[Admin Earth]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's kind of good.

[Admin Earth]

See, that's another thing too. I'm actually super into astrology.

[Jameela]

Wonderful.

[Admin Earth]

You are my first, like, content. When I was. Before anybody started noticing my. I was about to fully just do astrology content. But I don't be liking what come with that.

[Jameela]

It gets. It can. It's a. It's a weird. Sometimes it gets weird. Sometimes.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

You.

[Jameela]

You can't really, like, lean into a specific type of content because, you know, the other people that, like, that content is like, actually, some of you things.

[Deontay Kyle]

Are weird and then.

[Admin Earth]

Yeah, exactly. It's like. Like some of you are weird. And then also y' all don't really study it enough for me to talk to you about it.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Admin Earth]

It's like one of those things. I'm a person where it's like, when I'm into something, I'm thoroughly, thoroughly studying it for, like years at a time. And most people who engage with astrology engage. Engage with it on the surface. Surface. And I'm not interested in.

[Jameela]

You're starting to scare me.

[Mecca]

Are you a Virgo moon?

[Jameela]

I felt that scariness from you for a moment. I was becoming triggered. It's that analyticalness that you have that's reading.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes.

[Jameela]

Yeah, keep talking. I'm gonna get that. That one.

[Admin Earth]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

You've had women more than.

[Mecca]

Than in the cyber bushes.

[Admin Earth]

I've had women more than.

[Mecca]

More than in the cyber bushes.

[Jameela]

It's. I don't know what it is about your archetype of negro. Yeah, but y' all are hilarious. It's something about it that y' all are just so freaked out in the most calm way.

[Admin Earth]

I'll be chilling.

[Jameela]

Do y' all study sex or something?

[Admin Earth]

Yeah, I got some books.

[Jameela]

I bet you do.

[Admin Earth]

But you know what?

[Jameela]

Tantric lovemaking.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, cosmic sex.

[Admin Earth]

No, I have not.

[Jameela]

Have you ever seen tantric love making?

[Admin Earth]

I have made tantric love making.

[Jameela]

You be making nut off the. The look.

[Deontay Kyle]

But you know what?

[Admin Earth]

These days I'm so focused on?

[Jameela]

Here comes the lie. Here comes the lie. Here comes the lie.

[Mecca]

First of all, I'm injured. What's tantric lovemaking? You set off a look.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, tantric.

[Jameela]

Tantric lovemaking is energetic. If you know, you know. What is that?

[Mecca]

Sorry, y'. All, I only know penetration. What the are we talking about?

[Jameela]

Mecca is an old school freak. She don't know about no tantric love.

[Mecca]

This new y' all talking about.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm a Christian.

[Mecca]

What you talking about?

[Jameela]

Mecca's a dominatrix. She don't do no tantric. She's a dominatrix. Y' all already know what type of Mecca is she gets now. Eat that. Show me your dick.

[Admin Earth]

That's so funny.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes.

[Jameela]

So you were saying.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Admin Earth]

I'll be chilling these days. I'm not active.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm. I'm on.

[Admin Earth]

I'm on my craft right now.

[Mecca]

You're absolute.

[Jameela]

See how he ain't abstinent.

[Mecca]

So.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

You just ain't got no right now. You just ain't got no right now. Yeah, you see how lie. I'm really just trying to fool.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm really.

[Admin Earth]

I'm locked in. I'm trying to.

[Jameela]

What did we say the other day? I'm locked in. Gonna lock in if it's the last thing that y' all do. Y' all go lock in.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

I need that sign. I need that. I just.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

I'm.

[Jameela]

I just taste it.

[Admin Earth]

Take a guess.

[Mecca]

Are you a Gemini?

[Admin Earth]

I'm an air sign.

[Mecca]

We didn't got your moon and your.

[Jameela]

A Libra. No, thank God. I was gonna say I wasn't feeling a Libra.

[Mecca]

Aries.

[Admin Earth]

Aquarius.

[Mecca]

And there's. You know what? You know what.

[Jameela]

And that's why I was the moment you said registered. And that's why I was afraid for my life. And that's why I was afraid for myself.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes.

[Jameela]

An aquarium. Aquarius tracks with a Virgo moon.

[Mecca]

Correct, ladies.

[Jameela]

An anime. Anime. Like let's break it down. Aquarius, Virgo moon. Who is your. Is your rising Taurus?

[Mecca]

Leo.

[Jameela]

Okay. Who reads as a. I'm not going.

[Admin Earth]

To lie on paper. I'm an awful.

[Jameela]

But you know what I mean.

[Admin Earth]

It doesn't translate.

[Mecca]

New York raised in Atlanta looks at you. You orgasm them watches anime on paper.

[Admin Earth]

That sounds awful.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm not.

[Jameela]

You know what I mean? Like come on.

[Admin Earth]

I know what it sound like.

[Jameela]

Yeah. I.

[Mecca]

He should have known when this said he was whimsical.

[Jameela]

He. I just want you to know to stand Aquarius men are known for being or lacking empathy. I just want you to know that.

[Admin Earth]

Yeah. I'm not so I literally my whole people know me for being empathetic in real life. The content. I'm known for being empathetic and real.

[Jameela]

You're trying to give Aquarius.

[Admin Earth]

I'm trying to. I'm trying to rebrand us.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Okay.

[Admin Earth]

You feel me?

[Jameela]

I'm trying to put it back. I'm not convinced humanitarians beware. This. I'm putting this on a list.

[Mecca]

Yeah, you want a list, bro?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

And don't look this in the eye. You might not.

[Jameela]

This. You're a witch, aren't you? He just said he Looks at people and they not. I know. I know. A goddamn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Warlock.

[Jameela]

Hocus pocus. That's what we got in this goddamn show. Hocus pocus ass.

[Admin Earth]

What are y' all songs?

[Jameela]

I want you to guess.

[Admin Earth]

Red hair. It's you're you. You ain't got to be cliche, you.

[Jameela]

Know what I mean? All right, well, who am I? I gave you enough.

[Admin Earth]

Type tight.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're a water song.

[Jameela]

Don't piss me off. I am who I am. Oh, yo, and it's.

[Mecca]

Look at how many times she done changed her voice. That should. That's your hint.

[Admin Earth]

Gemini type.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes.

[Admin Earth]

Shout out to Gemini. Shout out to all I love us women except oh for cancer women. Oh, shout out to you, though, brother.

[Deontay Kyle]

Damn.

[Jameela]

Well, well, thank you so much. This was a treat.

[Mecca]

That was a good little extra additive deontay, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I. I love I with these. So I'm getting type. Thank you.

[Mecca]

Deontay same. I don't have to do the intro again. Fashion same Questions I asked our friend Admin. What's your style inspiration and who's played into your aesthetic? We know that you love hip hippity hop.

[Deontay Kyle]

Honestly, man, style was always like what Bird said. It was always like what my was doing, what street was doing with. With rep rap to an extent. I'm not a big high fashion name brand monochromatic dressing ass. I actually think it's like kind of coonery if you just wear a shirt with a label name on it. Like, you just rock a shirt that says Balenciaga. Some coonery. But work wear plays a big part into it because all this blue collar work I did, I still wanted to be fresh at work work. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? So Tim's Carhartt pants, Levi's, and, you know, like, dicky jackets. Carhartt jackets. I love a collar shirt. You know what I'm saying?

[Jameela]

You a real oa. I was gonna say you a real. This is a real, like, the thing.

[Mecca]

Is this fit is timeless, but this is also where y' all live. Y' all your generation. But like, many generations don't.

[Deontay Kyle]

But also too, like, I feel like, like, like shout out to the homie Keith. But, like, there is a thing, like, I like to, like, reclaim my fashion.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Like, what I wore.

[Deontay Kyle]

So, like, yeah, we finna go to this, like, Metro party and they do the futuristic summer. So, like, where the polo. Where the shit we was wearing, like, back in the day, we're like, niggas don't understand. This was already in my closet. I wear.

[Mecca]

Never stopped wearing this.

[Deontay Kyle]

I rock shit like this quite often.

[Mecca]

When the boy said, when the man said, ain't I fresh? And it's like, but if you live in the South.

[Jameela]

South.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, that was still wearing that. First of all, that's a standard fit. This is what I like. I would wear this to church.

[Mecca]

Yeah, exactly.

[Deontay Kyle]

You dig what I'm saying? I would wear this on Easter. I would wear this to my cousin's graduation. Like, this is literally. But I think so. Like, anything that was like that has been stapled Southern. And then also too, like when you start getting that dad by going, a Carhartt shirt is very nice. It fits well. I like being comfortable, you know what I'm saying? I like wearing like, like stylish joggers. I don't like when they don't have the zippers on the side because then all your fall out your pockets. But as long as we can start working on that, that's cool.

[Mecca]

Listen, we were talking about how fashion is really practability. Practability, a word.

[Jameela]

It sounds like practical.

[Deontay Kyle]

Practicality.

[Mecca]

Practicality thing. I was like, that's not the right word. It didn't even just practicality. Like how you said where you want to be at work, you want to be fresh. People are really influenced by like, like their situations and their environment. So I like, I like when get into the details. Like, I, I wanted to be fresh at work, so I went to him.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, and also too like comfort, but also like, what I like is what I like. So like, it doesn't necessarily have to be a thing that everybody else is doing. I also like kind of reject trends in a sense of like, oh, like we're all wearing like, like crop shirts now. It's like not me, but I respect fashion when it's done right. Like, what's buddy name? Wisdom Kane.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Wisdom Kane.

[Deontay Kyle]

That nigga can put any clothes on. I respect that he be dripping, but I also understand that that's not my vibe, you know what I'm saying? So, like, I feel like I'm gonna look good if I feel good and if I'm comfortable. And as long as I got some good cologne on and some nice fitting clothes and you know, we good.

[Jameela]

You all good.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? We don't have to do too much match. It's not really about that. You know, my, my pops was a very big on that. The clothes don't make the man type. So like, I also like quality, you know what I'm saying? So like fast fashion really not my vibe.

[Mecca]

That you can last.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Wear for years.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, Yeah. I want something that I can. The only, like, thing that I use is, like, literal, fast fashion is like, polo tees.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

There's something that. That generation of men, like our dads. My dad is so loyal to a Levi jean.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. These are. These are Levi jeans. They're so comfortable, though, bro.

[Mecca]

And I know, boy, Levi's have, like, the numbers, like the three.

[Jameela]

Eight, eight.

[Mecca]

Whatever it is. It's like, Nick, why you got 17 pairs of the same jean in your closet?

[Deontay Kyle]

What? This is another thing, too. Like, I'm also a person that, like, I'll get into. I know that it's an ADHD thing, but it's also a thing of, like, I will get into spells where I want to wear the same pants over and over just because of, like, a comfort, like a feel. I'll put them bitches on, like, every day. And it's like, then I had to also be mindful of, like, how quickly I will stain my clothes and all this shit. Like a polo. Like a white tee. It's not gonna Last a cool 24 hours without me spilling something. Cause I'm clumsy. But at the same time, it's like, I keep. That's why you buy fat pack of polo tees and you throw one in the trunk and you spill it and then you just rinse and repeat, type.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Shit, shout out to Audi.

[Deontay Kyle]

But yeah, it's more so like work wear, comfort, you know, stuff that, like, if I feel good and I can be mobile in nigga, don't want to be outside stiff. And like, also, too, the days of, like, walking where you don't crease your shoes, that's out. Like, I'm not doing that.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

So.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. And I like dress. I like to dress shoes first, you know what I'm saying? Cause I love sneakers.

[Jameela]

A real boy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I was gonna say.

[Mecca]

That's some bullshit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, that's another thing too. It's like, like, even if I got shoes that got, like, funky colors, I got white polo te. I'm good. You know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

That's right.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm cool. You know what I'm saying? I got the wigs, and you know what I'm saying? That's an accessory. It's an accessory. If I don't got a haircut, I could put a hat on. I'm lit.

[Mecca]

I just got into the. I like on Tik Tok watching the wick hair Salon in Florida where they put them together.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

That I'm like. I respect the artistry, and I like, like, black hair salon.

[Deontay Kyle]

Versatile, bro. Let me do anything. Any and everything.

[Mecca]

Like, what do you mean you shaped your hair into a circle? What are we doing?

[Deontay Kyle]

Insane, bro.

[Jameela]

Just doing. We should be doing.

[Deontay Kyle]

So a question, ladies.

[Mecca]

Okay. Put it on us. Welcome to Extended Cut of Grits and Eggs Civitrains. Branded, Sponsored.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, that's a real thing. Y' all really? Branded with them. Sponsored by them.

[Jameela]

We absolutely.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

They cut a chain, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bread, man. Bread. That justice system, it burns. You have a right into a bad bro. Y' all do it every time. And I'm waiting on y' all to do it for me again because y' all did it last time, and I believe in the power of hate.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? I tell. I'm a hater, not a liar.

[Mecca]

Mute that energy and make it positive.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yes, man. Let's do it.

[Mecca]

Word to mystical warlock over here.

[Deontay Kyle]

Transmute that energy.

[Mecca]

You don't know what I'm talking about.

[Deontay Kyle]

How does that feel, though, when people like you can't dress well?

[Jameela]

You didn't strike nothing.

[Mecca]

In my heart, I was gonna say it didn't mean anything.

[Jameela]

I think I like my outfits genuinely, so I didn't give a damn.

[Mecca]

And Darren, my brother, got online and said, we've been telling this bitch she.

[Deontay Kyle]

Can'T dress for years.

[Mecca]

But the thing is, if you. If I post my throwback so up so often, I've gone through many phases of, like, I'm just like, a stud. I'm just like, boy, I'm just like this. I'm just like that. So I. I was used to my family being like, girl, what the fuck?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, but that is fashion, though.

[Mecca]

No.

[Deontay Kyle]

Where would you want to wear?

[Jameela]

That's why I don't. It was funny to me because, like I said. I said this in a different podcast. Like, if you make me laugh, then cool. Cause the outfit that they were specifically coming for me for, you know, they was like, it's giving Ashley Tisdale. I laughed.

[Deontay Kyle]

I laughed.

[Jameela]

Cause you know what? You were so close to the inspiration, so I can't even.

[Mecca]

Because the inspiration was Hilary Dawson.

[Jameela]

I was definitely giving. You know, that's just. But that's my vibe. Like you said, you dress from what you know. And I was born in 96, y'.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

All.

[Jameela]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, I said, like, this is what I like.

[Jameela]

This is what I like. And I felt comfortable, and I felt good.

[Mecca]

I mean, when they were lighting me up like, you look like Raven Baxter to me, it was like, that is literally what I'm going for. Cuz when I was a kid, that was a pin. Raven was a whole fashion designer.

[Deontay Kyle]

First of all, she was the girl.

[Jameela]

She was the, she was, you know.

[Deontay Kyle]

First of all, a lot of you that was hating was cheated girls.

[Jameela]

A lot of you that was hating couldn't dress and didn't look good.

[Deontay Kyle]

So. So this is the thing I don't. If, if, if your, if your outfit is solely relying on brand names, you can't dress. That's my opinion.

[Jameela]

And if you have no originality, you can't dress. If all you do.

[Deontay Kyle]

If you go, if you go monochrome Gucci tracksuit with Gucci shoes, you're a cornball.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

You can't talk about me or a set every time.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're a grandfather.

[Mecca]

And we, and we let, we let.

[Deontay Kyle]

The OG when granddads do fashion things, it's whatever.

[Mecca]

I love when they do because that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Is who it's for. You supposed to match from head to toe. That is some grand dad. You know what I'm saying? But also too, you know, long term, long term fashion mentality for me. I do want to be the dad or the grandfather that does like casually.

[Mecca]

Wear a suit, a linen suit.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just no like dead ass. Like a three piece. No, no, no. Like, like, like classic man. Not even that. That's too far. Civil rights lights.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mecca]

Martin Luther King.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. You feel me?

[Jameela]

Like you want to be loose too. Like then are you gonna have it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Wiggle room in there? But I'm just outside today.

[Jameela]

The 05.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm literally outside in a suit. That's my vibe. Like, but that's like more of my. Like that's like my 50 to 55 to 65. Those ages where it's like it doesn't matter where he's coming from or where he's going. He's somebody's grandfather.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

And I understand at your age, you good.

[Deontay Kyle]

You should. I'm definitely like last summer I was really big into like these drug. Like I wanted to look like, like a Cuban drug dealer. So it was a lot of like loose fitting collar shirts with the white. With the white.

[Mecca]

I remember that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. It was just. And, and I, and I bought. I'm trying to tell niggas there's a whole thing. I bought the frames specific. The frames was an indicator of casual wear. Hair.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm on some casual right now. I'm wearing A collar shirt. I'm being smart today. Today is. Today is a smart day.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? And I smell good.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You dig? And then other day. But people send me like mad clothes and which like peak. Peak love that love when are into fashion and send me.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Fubu that is FUBU just literally was in dm. Like we want to send you some gear.

[Jameela]

Hey Fubu, send me some shout out always man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Send me some FUBU platinum Albert back.

[Jameela]

Bring me some baby fat please.

[Mecca]

I would love that.

[Jameela]

I need those earrings back. Those earrings with the cat H. I wanted some so bad, but they was too bad.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh man, I got so much baby fat butt, nigga. In the back in the day, baby fat butt was the shit like right? All the girls with baby fat buttons.

[Mecca]

You see Lotto just re upped her apple bottom.

[Jameela]

I saw. That was cute. That was cute.

[Deontay Kyle]

Girls in a baby fat jacket with the like matted fur on was a time are gonna give you head.

[Mecca]

But they're gonna have a teenage pregnancy.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's coming. Either one.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

One of the two. Literally that was an indicator of getting some ass. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, yeah, yeah. Guys, this is. Are we rapping or do y' all have more questions? I'm down for one more question.

[Mecca]

Do we have one more question?

[Jameela]

I don't.

[Mecca]

I don't either. Pull off the dome Deontay. Where do you see yourself in the next five to 10 years? Like grits and eggs has taken off so, so much. It has, but it's taken off so quickly that I don't know, you know, 10.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, 5. 5 is complete business running a network, creating a brand of like, substance, knowledge, humor with the grizzly next brand where we can house and host other podcasts who are in alignment with what we do. You know, I want to have people on my team that can carry a show by themselves, that aren't guest heavy, that are personalities that people love. And I also want to incorporate some sketch comedy into it, which I've been privy to what we do and we do funny. So. And then the late night aspect of it. 10 years, 40 acres and a meal, privacy, money. You know, I have income. I don't. Money is not a thing I'm thinking about.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, we're. And I could just exist and I'm, you know, I have the plan, I have the blueprints. I know exactly what my property is going to look like and how and you know, just do cool shit like call up my Cool ass friends. Like, hey, we jamming tonight? Are we gonna record a session?

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Are we gonna do like a little one off podcast just for fun and like it really kind of exists out of the public eye. Just pop in, pop out like whenever.

[Mecca]

I want to kind of do literally the Jay Z.

[Deontay Kyle]

The Jay Z, for lack of a better term to Dave Chappelle, though.

[Mecca]

That's a better. That's a better one because he.

[Deontay Kyle]

He still, still outside. Like I still do.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I'm not like, I'm not relying on it. Social media is not. It's only a tool, you know, I mean, but also like I can get together with my friends and do cool.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

And I see that happen.

[Mecca]

I see that for you.

[Jameela]

I see that. Exactly. And maybe even more. And then it goes out.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want to buy. I want to buy a lot like old motels and remodel them into affordable housing.

[Jameela]

Come on now. I love that.

[Mecca]

Come on now.

[Jameela]

More back into the.

[Mecca]

Get back to the community.

[Deontay Kyle]

Absolutely.

[Mecca]

Cuz the problem is buy back the block and then want to charge rent.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want to talk about. I want to talk about something. Today we finalized our raising of. We ra. We did a quick little fundraiser for the teachers. We was able to raise 600 for their school supplies. And all of the teachers that signed up, it was three teachers. I believe we fulfilled all their needs.

[Mecca]

I love that. Come on.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Giving back. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So since y' all don't want to give this school supplies for your kids, we're going to take them into our own hands.

[Jameela]

That's dope.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. So it's constantly stuff like that. You know, my man's Justin Ellis Brooks. He's doing his thing out there in la. I'm constantly going to be in a space of like, not only like kind of activism, but like, you know, giving back and like making sure we pour back into the community in a real way.

[Jameela]

Community is important.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, like, because buying black back to block is not becoming a landlord.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

That's why it's getting weird times.

[Deontay Kyle]

Rent or how about a. How about a healthcare center? How about a hospital? How about a student? How about like a children's center? We need more than house resources and things like that.

[Jameela]

It's enough of those white bricks, you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Know, Will say I'm buying back the block and it just be capitalism.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

That all it is. They said, I'm going to build a duplex. Y' all don't have fruits and vegetables in this town.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. How about, how about, how about a grocery. Grocery store.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Or you Know, like some tangible after school programs. How about, you know, I'm partnering with a, a black owned aquatic center where they're going to teach the babies how to swim. You know, water safety is a big thing. Black people getting over their fear of water is a big thing. It's a skill. You know what I'm saying? And, and, and how, how when get in that water. Michael Phelps. Who?

[Mecca]

Yeah, I mean I was on.

[Jameela]

We only got a few more to dominate.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's literally like tennis. We're at the forefront of that. Golf are, are getting into golf heavily right now. Yeah, I will be a golf in the next five years.

[Jameela]

You are so destined to be a golf ass.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm telling you, I have a great swing. Okay. I get real competitive at the topgolf. It goes down.

[Jameela]

You put a cigarette in your mouth with the sweet.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh God. I'm the black John Daly. Don't understand what the vibe is. Also though, when black people overcome their fear of water, it's a lot of going going on. Also gymnastics. Yes.

[Mecca]

The way little black boys be doing backflips. I know Simone's already, she's a girl. But I want them boys.

[Deontay Kyle]

Have you ever seen the. That do the ring? Them are buff ass niggas.

[Jameela]

Yeah, buff as.

[Deontay Kyle]

You don't want smoke with a ring.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Nah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Turn your head in the dust.

[Jameela]

What your shoulders.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

You know, be fucking up. They rotator cuff.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Those niggas are very strong.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, I think long term goal is just to always be active in the community. Always in black spaces, always in the post of the culture. Me and you, we share the same sentiment about black fame. Like I'm cool.

[Mecca]

I'm straight on that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I'm good. As long as niggas know me, I'm cool.

[Mecca]

You know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

Niggas are also very respectful of fame. Like they understand that you people, white people do have a tendency to like be entitled and overstep boundaries and that is, that's terrifying to me.

[Jameela]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

Well, before we go, I do wanna say I'm very proud of you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Thank you. I'm proud of y' all too.

[Mecca]

I love to see y' all grow. Thank you.

[Jameela]

Yes. Like, and I'm glad we've developed a friendship. You know, you came to the baby's party once you come to the baby birthday party, you know black people, you're stamped.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey man, once I got invited, I was like, oh, we're really friends.

[Jameela]

She really fought with Me, I love your daughter so bad.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, she the best, man. She's the best. That's my girl. She's all. You know, she told me she wants to be a doctor, and, man, I almost shed a tear. I said, look at her. And she's really. She just did a fashion show. I should show y' all this clip, man. She had to walk.

[Jameela]

I already know she. I already know she cut it up.

[Deontay Kyle]

She killed that.

[Jameela]

She was pumping so, like, she has so much energy. She's clearly your daughter, first of all.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. For sure.

[Jameela]

Because she's a fool.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

Just like you.

[Deontay Kyle]

She. Everybody say that. They be like, damn, this is your daughter. This is an argumentative, funny person.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jameela]

Mind you, when this wasn't. I don't even think this aired on the podcast. We were in the podcast, hooting and hollering for hours and hours. Right. Do you know that his daughter came down and started rapping? Kendrick Lamar, new album. I'm talking about word for word.

[Deontay Kyle]

Turn the TV off. That's her.

[Jameela]

I said, this is your kid?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. She'd be walking through the house. Few solid left, but it's not enough. I'm like, it's my baby right there, man. And then.

[Jameela]

And then dropped to a split. I said, the kids are still doing split.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know that she's doing splits. She's doing backflips. That's my baby.

[Jameela]

I like that.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm raising black ass kids in a black ass household, and I only care about being in black hair spaces. So, you know. You know, shout out to everybody that's brand ambassadors and like that. That for these black event spaces and bring a light to us. But we're gonna need that chicken next. Okay. The chicken. We're gonna need the chili. You know what I'm saying? I want to create new. We need the money on, and we need, like, actual media in these spaces for sure. And I want to provide a space for artists to feel comfortable.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And feel human and not just, like, doing their job. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to y', all, though. Y' all been tearing up. Y' all been everywhere. I've been heavily inspired by.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, thank y' all for having me on, too.

[Mecca]

Absolutely. Well, tell us where we can find you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Deontay Kyle on Instagram and TikTok. My friend group has banned me from Twitter and what?

[Mecca]

You know, he texted, I can't do.

[Jameela]

I'mma get out.

[Deontay Kyle]

I dead ass deactivated my account.

[Jameela]

He's so dramatic.

[Deontay Kyle]

A cancer I can't win on there. So it's like it. If I'm saying if I'm keeping it light and funny. Hey, that. All I said was Shannon Sharp should go white on live. That doesn't seem crazy to me. All I said is crazy, but okay. And then YouTube, grits and eggs podcast, all platforms that house podcast, Grits and Eggs Podcast, Patreon, the Grizz Next podcast ain't number $8. Come with me. And then that's it. You know what I'm saying? That's us. Oh, also follow Big Ice cupcat on Instagram, and you know what I'm saying? The original man, my brother. And that's it.

[Mecca]

All right, but we'll see y' all next week.

[Jameela]

Alrighty.

[Unidentified Female Speaker]

Bye.

[Jameela]

My appetite go poof. Gone. Voila. Magic looking mad good just to pull up on them ramping.