Unhinged & Unplugged With Akeem Ali | Ep. 41

Summary

Unhinged & Immoral Ep. 41: "Unhinged & Unplugged With Akeem Ali"

Hosts: Jamila Bell & Mecca Evans
Guest: Akeem Ali (aka Kimi Casanova)
Date: September 17, 2025

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Main Theme:

This episode delves into the meteoric rise and unique artistry of rapper and lyricist Akeem Ali, known for his blend of retro funk and sharp wordplay, his roots in Jackson, Mississippi, and his experiences as an independent artist. True to the "Unhinged & Immoral" brand, the conversation is unfiltered, hilarious, and at times wildly explicit, spanning topics from internet fame and touring to black cultural preservation, personal style, and sexual antics. The episode also includes an electrifying live performance from Akeem.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Getting to Know Akeem Ali: Southern Roots and Signature Style

• Mississippi Pride: The conversation opens with Jackson, MS being called "the blackest city in America," highlighting Akeem's cultural roots.
  • [01:14] Jamila: “It’s black.”
  • [01:15] Mecca: “It’s black for sure.”
• Wordplay Origins: Akeem’s love for funk, witty “isms,” and the unique blend of influences that inform his music and persona.
  • [02:36] Akeem: “It’s like, literally from everything that I’ve watched or seen growing up. It’s a piece of, like, everything.”
• Origins as an Artist:
  • Started rapping at 11, inspired by Chris Brown.
  • [04:03] Akeem: “I wrote my first rap to Popping by Chris Brown… I was 11. The song was number 11. I was 11.”
• Fun banter about zodiac signs, with Akeem revealing he shares a birthday with hip hop itself (August 11th).
  • [06:05] Akeem: “Hip hop was born August 11, 1973… I got the same birthday as hip hop.”

2. The Tour Life: Challenges & Growth

• Touring Independently: Akeem shares what it’s truly like to finance, plan, and manage a tour as an indie artist.
  • [13:16] Akeem: “I had to raise, like, a good, good deal over six figures to go on tour. I had to learn what paying people was about. Showing up every day, even when I didn’t feel like it.”
• Working with Poetry on Peter: The role of a passionate all-women promo team.
  • [09:16] Akeem: “I was impressed. And I told everybody about it. I was like, man, it was these girls. I was like, they were girling.”
• Challenges: Highlights interpersonal struggles on tour (“sometimes I wanted to slap the… out of somebody”), the urge to hold it together, and the realities of being “the boss.”

3. Independence & Integrity in the Industry

• Akeem is ambivalent about staying indie—he’s open to signing if “the money is right,” but values keeping his earnings.
  • [11:32] Akeem: “I don’t know if it means anything to me, to be honest. The work just has to get done. I don’t stop and be like, I’m independent.”
  • [12:17] Akeem: “I get everything comes to me, and I don’t have to split the pie…”

4. Style, Confidence & Breaking Stereotypes

• Akeem’s unique, vintage style dates back to high school—penny loafers, bow ties, sweaters—all before it was cool.
  • [21:07] Akeem: “I didn’t know what I was going to put on today… I’ve been dressing like this since high school, since like ninth grade.”
  • Was sometimes mocked for his fashion (“fruit… can get a bit phobic sometimes” [22:26]), but his style was self-defined and bold.

5. Sexuality, Humour, and Cultural Taboo

• Sexual banter & rapid-fire: The discussion veers into explicit territory, covering favorite sexual characteristics, sex positions, music for sex, and butt-eating (yes, really).
  • [41:19] Akeem: “My favorite physical characteristic in a woman? Gotta be, like, the face… how pretty they are in the face.”
  • [46:28] Mecca: “Do you eat butt?”
    Akeem: “Yes. On days that end with a Y.”
    Jamila: “He eats ass every day.”
• On being on his own sex playlist:
  • [51:38] Akeem: “I created a playlist one day, and it’s of songs that I have out and unreleased songs. And I fuck so good to it.”
• Sex positions & style: Akeem describes his own invented move, “the goddamn goddamn”/“every way but loose,” which the hosts try to deconstruct.
• Hilarious and candid, the hosts and guest share personal and cultural quirks, from sagging in skinny jeans to regional food delicacies (pickles with hot chips or Jolly Ranchers, sugar sandwiches, “Viena” sausages, and more).

6. Preserving Black Culture: Where Art Meets Identity

• Authenticity Over Preservation: Akeem discusses how just being himself is a form of cultural preservation.
  • [34:31] Akeem: “Well, you don’t preserve something if you are it. Like, I can’t not be Black, Embodiment.”
• On Sampling & Southern Identity: He samples music like Teddy Pendergrass instinctively, not strategically.
  • [35:38] Akeem: “It don’t even be, like, a on-purpose thing… As soon as I start writing, I’d be like, this got to be some shit that’s gonna make [Black people] just be like, what the fuck?”
• Regionalism in Rap: The hosts and Akeem discuss the revival of regional sounds; Mississippi, through artists like him and Big K.R.I.T., is finally earning a sonic identity.
  • [39:35] Akeem: “We don’t even have a sound where I’m from, though. I feel like I have to be the person that gives Mississippi a sound.”

7. Criticism, Identity & Resilience

• On Critique & Misunderstanding: Akeem is unfazed by those who question his style, sexuality, or authenticity.
  • [30:30] Akeem: “You gotta know you’re subject to criticism with whatever you’re doing. Once you put it out there, you got to detach yourself from the outcome or how people are going to receive it.”
  • Uses examples of Michael Jackson, Prince, and Whitney Houston as artists whose paths were questioned.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Tour Logistics & Hard Lessons [13:16]:
  “I thought I would have needed, like, five digits to go on tour… then I’m looking at shit, I’m like, yeah, I’m going to need $80,000. And then I’m like, I need $100,000. Shit, I need $150,000. I need a million dollars to go on this tour.”

• On Sexual Preference Speculation [31:10]:
  “Whitney Houston…like, she was gay.” – Mecca
  “I didn’t know she was.” – Akeem

• On Preserving Culture [34:31]:
  “You don’t preserve something if you are it… I can’t not be Black. Embodiment.”

• On Sex Playlists [51:38]:
  “I created a playlist one day, and it’s of songs that I have out and unreleased songs. And I fuck so good to it.” – Akeem

• On Eating Butt [46:28]:
  “On days that end with a Y.” – Akeem

• On Style [21:07]:
  “I’ve been dressing like this since high school.” – Akeem

• On Self-Confidence as Pickup Line [68:25]:
  “I am the pickup line. Like, once you see me, you know whether you want to or don’t want to.” – Akeem

• On Black Food Culture [60:33]:
  “This is something you can only get from the corner store… you get you a pickle at the big jar, right? …bite the tip off of it…you get you a Jolly Rancher and put it in the middle.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:58] – Akeem’s first rap & musical beginnings
• [06:05] – Shares birthday with hip hop
• [09:16–11:21] – On working with Poetry on Peter & team dynamics
• [13:16–15:08] – Realities of running a tour
• [21:07–24:01] – Fashion, confidence, and high school experiences
• [28:19–31:58] – On serving core fans, being misunderstood & LGBTQ rumors
• [34:31–36:38] – Musical blackness, preserving culture
• [39:35–40:44] – Mississippi’s sound and influence of Big K.R.I.T.
• [41:04–45:00] – Sex talk rapid-fire: attraction, lube, butt-eating, and more
• [51:38] – Sex playlist confession
• [63:37–64:56] – Favorite sex position (“the goddamn goddamn”)
• [66:03] – Sex toys & anal discussion
• [68:25] – Pickup lines & self-assurance
• [69:41] – Upcoming project: "Texture Tape 3"
• [70:29–76:44] – Live performance: “Polyester” and “Good Looking Adjectives”

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Episode Highlights & Vibe

• Unfiltered and Shameless: Sexual topics are tackled with humor and frankness, perfectly matching the show’s “unhinged & immoral” premise.
• Southern Storytelling: Food, dialects, and regional quirks foreground conversations about identity and authenticity.
• Support for Black Women: Sincere praise of the women-led promo team and open praise for Black women, their labor, and their art.
• Akeem’s Humor: His one-liners and banter create countless quotable moments, balancing self-aware masculinity with warmth and southern charm.
• Music as Embodiment: Performing both as guest and creator, Akeem connects his artistry back to cultural embodiment and lived Black Southern experience.

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Live Performance [70:29–76:44]

Akeem performs “Polyester” and “Good Looking Adjectives,” demonstrating his signature blend of clever lyricism and nostalgia-laced funk. The performance is energetic, with playful ego and wordplay on full display:

• [73:33]: “I go by big daddy, I go by fine as hell. I go by choosy lover…”
• [74:23]: “I look dazzling…I look delectable…I look delightful, scratch that, I’m ten of them…”

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Upcoming Releases

• Texture Tape 3:
  [69:41] – Announced as Akeem’s next project set to be released soon on all platforms.

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Final Word

A wildly entertaining and candid episode that spotlights Akeem Ali’s authenticity, humor, and southern Black pride, making it both an essential listen for fans of indie hip hop and those craving irreverent, honest cultural commentary.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[AEM Ali]

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[Jamila]

Welcome back to another episode of Unhinged and Immoral. I'm your host, Jamila.

[Mecca]

And I'm Mecca.

[Jamila]

We have a very special guest today. You know, we're in our musical era, 106 and Paul.

[AEM Ali]

Yes.

[Mecca]

TRL.

[Jamila]

Yes. We're getting back to our roots. So today we have a very special guest, originally from Jackson, Mississippi, AKA the blackest city in America. Have a rapper, singer, and lyricist known for his unique nostalgic sound fusing disco and funk with a nasty wordplay coming straight out of Superfly. We got Kimi Casanova, AKA AEM Ali. Welcome.

[AEM Ali]

What's going on?

[Jamila]

How you doing?

[AEM Ali]

Who told y' all all that?

[Jamila]

Hey, we are.

[Mecca]

We keep our ears to the streets, okay? And we know a little something about Jackson.

[AEM Ali]

What you know about Jackson?

[Jamila]

It's black.

[Mecca]

It's black for sure.

[Jamila]

Yes. When I said the blackest city in America, that was not me being. Yeah, statistics.

[Mecca]

I was gonna say, statistically, it is like.

[AEM Ali]

Yes, it is.

[Jamila]

I don't know how big it is, actually. Hey, per capita. Per capita.

[Mecca]

Did that.

[Jamila]

Did I use that right?

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Jamila]

Something.

[AEM Ali]

Sounds about right, right?

[Jamila]

So how are you feeling today? You're on the Unhinged Immoral podcast. This is legendary. Do you feel like it's legendary?

[AEM Ali]

I feel so good about this.

[Jamila]

Are you ready to get unhinged?

[AEM Ali]

I feel wonderful. I'm happy to be here.

[Jamila]

Wonderful. That's what we like to.

[AEM Ali]

Unhinged. Yeah, I guess I'm ready.

[Mecca]

Can you get a little bit of moral?

[AEM Ali]

We about to find out.

[Mecca]

We about to find out.

[Jamila]

We're going to pull it out. We're going to do everything we can.

[Mecca]

We're going to get you.

[AEM Ali]

That sounds unhinged.

[Jamila]

Exactly, Exactly. Okay, let's get straight into it. So, you know, you are known for your wordplay, your flow. How did you get into that? Like, do you just talk like that on a regular basis?

[AEM Ali]

Sometimes. It depends. It's like a switch. A switch that I got. It's either, like, you know, when I'm.

[Mecca]

Feeling it and Where'd you get that from? Did you, like, watch black exploitation videos?

[AEM Ali]

No, it's just. I don't know who I've become. It's kind of, like, hard to not be it or say it or do it. It's just, like, who I am now, it's a part of me. But it went from, like. I can't say it wasn't from films or from, like, TV or from, like. It's like a. Literally. It's like, literally from everything that I've watched or seen growing up. And so it's like a piece of, like, you know, everything. Even stuff that happens now or it's, like, current happenings. This is, like, all a part of what I'm seeing or doing. So.

[Jamila]

So do you just practice these statements and you just walk around like, hey, sugar.

[Mecca]

The first time I met him, what'd you say? Find it in frog hair?

[AEM Ali]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

You have so many lines. It's like, where did you find, like, do you just practice these?

[Mecca]

What my dad would say, no, I.

[AEM Ali]

Just be like, whatever it calls for, you know?

[Mecca]

It's just ism is what you're telling me.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, it is. Yeah.

[Jamila]

Okay, so who would you say inspired you to make music? Music or what?

[AEM Ali]

I don't know what it was. It was just something that just happened. I never had, like, one person that was just like, I'm gonna do music because they're doing music. It just literally happened. I just started liking it, and from there, I just never stopped liking it. And then I just started wanting to, like, write music, do music. Like, yeah, it's a rap other people.

[Mecca]

Did you start rapping?

[AEM Ali]

I wrote my first rap at 11. Okay, so 11 years old.

[Jamila]

I would love to hear that.

[AEM Ali]

Rap. Rap, Yeah. I wrote my first rap to Popping by Chris Brown. Popping when I was 11. The song was number 11 on his album. Oh, I was 11.

[Mecca]

Come on. Angel Numbers.

[AEM Ali]

And that's why I wrote my first rap, too.

[Mecca]

Do you remember any of it?

[AEM Ali]

I remember it verbatim.

[Jamila]

Like, okay, go.

[AEM Ali]

The first rap I ever wrote. I rap it one day. I rap some other time.

[Mecca]

He needs the background. Be we can't.

[AEM Ali]

I need a beat on. I need. Y' all sound like a band. That's like horns in a band.

[Jamila]

Exactly.

[Mecca]

That wasn't a bad thing to say.

[Jamila]

I remember where I was when Popping came out. Do you?

[Mecca]

I remember where. I can't. I can't remember exactly the song, but I remember where I was when that album came out. Like, that era.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[AEM Ali]

Oh, yeah, I was.

[Jamila]

It was glorious days.

[AEM Ali]

When I seen Chris Brown, I said, who is this thing on TV that think he's better than me?

[Mecca]

Oh, you felt like he was trying to compete with you?

[AEM Ali]

Yeah. Cause I had just learned how to dance, like two years before that and watching you guys serve. And so I thought I was like, yeah, him a little bit. And then when I saw Chris Brown, I was like, wait a minute. I said something right about this.

[Jamila]

And he had the smile, you know.

[AEM Ali]

He used to be like, yeah.

[Mecca]

And he had dimples. You have dimples too, though.

[Guest Performer]

Maybe that's what I'm saying.

[AEM Ali]

He thinking he better than me. Little lighter.

[Mecca]

He from Virginia.

[AEM Ali]

When I was little, I had a fro and he had like a haircut. I'm like, just the light skinned me. He was a little older, though. I was 11. He's 16, so fair enough.

[Mecca]

But you've always been really confident is what you're saying.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, I tried my best.

[Jamila]

He's a Leo, right?

[Mecca]

Because his birthday was yesterday.

[AEM Ali]

I'm about to leave your ass alone.

[Jamila]

I keep Ali. I mean, it's important information.

[AEM Ali]

I got the same birthday as hip hop. For people who don't know, everybody always like, when is your birthday? Hip hop was born August 11, 1973.

[Mecca]

Oh, that's such a fun fact.

[Jamila]

And what was the Bronx?

[AEM Ali]

The Bronx, N.Y. dJ Cool Herc.

[Mecca]

So it's kind of destined for you.

[AEM Ali]

To take this path 21 years later.

[Jamila]

We love alignment.

[AEM Ali]

August 11th, Thursday.

[Jamila]

And you were 11 when you started, did you just number 11?

[AEM Ali]

No, I would. I didn't just realize it.

[Mecca]

You didn't have to do it like that, right?

[AEM Ali]

I was 11.

[Mecca]

We thought we were.

[AEM Ali]

That was going on the 11th year. The song was number 11. Yeah, people who do that. I'd be like, shut up.

[Mecca]

Why do boys hate that type of stuff?

[AEM Ali]

I don't hate it, but y' all be like, so gung ho about it. I'd have had people be like, I know you're sign.

[Mecca]

You're a Libra.

[AEM Ali]

I'd be like, oh, yeah, you're a Cancer. No, girl, he's giving Taurus. And I'd be like, hey, so dumb.

[Jamila]

You know the. The funny thing about the signs, though. And I'm not. I don't know all the things. I just know the basics. But, you know, you don't just have one sign. You know, you have your, like, risings and moons or whatever. So sometimes you have, like, signs that you project. And that's why sometimes you read off different ways. I don't know all the doohickeys. I just know, you know What I'm saying, I know the basics, you know what I'm saying? What day is your birthday? I am a Gemini. Straight like that. Right on, right on. Player.

[Mecca]

Original, brother.

[Jamila]

Did you want it?

[Mecca]

Mind you, my card doesn't even start.

[AEM Ali]

On a real question.

[Mecca]

Follow up question.

[Jamila]

Oh, okay.

[Mecca]

So you guys.

[Jamila]

Well, let's talk about your tour. You just went on your first tour, first major tour.

[AEM Ali]

All right.

[Mecca]

It'S his second tour, but this bigger than the first.

[Jamila]

Well, this one you worked with Poetry on Peter. Yeah, let's talk about that relationship, because I too, have a relationship.

[AEM Ali]

I hate him.

[Jamila]

Poetry and Peter.

[AEM Ali]

I can't stand them, really.

[Jamila]

Let's get into that. Messy boots. Mayana. Yeah, she's coming for you, girl.

[AEM Ali]

I just playing.

[Jamila]

How did you start working with them first?

[AEM Ali]

We. Somebody contacted me one day about doing a performance with the Renaissance Orchestra. And I didn't know that they were going to be the team that was helping facilitate the logistics of promotion, you know, keeping me abreast about what was going on. Like, a lot of the assets. And at first I was, like, unmoved because, I don't know, I don't get excited about a bunch of stuff. I was most excited about how they operated throughout the whole process. I think I was more excited about that than I was my actual performance. When I saw, like, they were like, calling me every day, we need this, we need that, we need a picture. Come here. Do content. I'm like, y' all ain't. I'm like, I didn't. I didn't get paid for none of this shit. But they were, like, so adamant about making, like, the it happen. And I was just so intrigued by how they promoted, like, literally into, like, a couple of hours up until the show. And I was like, fuck with me. I was like, let me friends.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[AEM Ali]

And so I told him. I was like, man, I'm finna go on tour. Or, like, I want y' all to help me, like, push and promote and market my tour for me. And so that was just, you know, I was impressed. And I told everybody about it. I was like, man, it was these girls. I was like, they were girling.

[Mecca]

They were girling.

[AEM Ali]

They were girl.

[Jamila]

Complimentary.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[Mecca]

I think that's the biggest thing about.

[AEM Ali]

We say we was manning this. Like he manning that, or you be like, he was manning it?

[Jamila]

Girl, I've never said that a day in my life.

[Mecca]

Where's that from? Mississippi?

[AEM Ali]

You know, say somebody manhandled you. Oh, yeah, he was manning that.

[Jamila]

Well, man.

[AEM Ali]

Well, I don't Say men or man.

[Jamila]

Sounds bad to me.

[AEM Ali]

No, it was like they was girl handling what they was doing. Like they were girling it.

[Jamila]

Okay.

[AEM Ali]

I thought that was the Unhinged show.

[Jamila]

Okay. Yes.

[Mecca]

Well, we ain't never heard that unhinged slang.

[Jamila]

You just. I'm saying I would never. Complimentary say somebody was manhandling me.

[Mecca]

Like, no, it's not me.

[Jamila]

He's like, oh, y'.

[Mecca]

All, man in that. Like, y', all, y'. All.

[AEM Ali]

You'll be like, why you manhandling such and such? Or why you. He manhandled that.

[Jamila]

Like, I feel like, Jackson, Mississippi, please let us know.

[AEM Ali]

But you don't manhandle women.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[AEM Ali]

A man handles a woman, but he doesn't manhandle her. Oh, right.

[Mecca]

We're gonna come back to that.

[Jamila]

You know, that's actually kind of how I got in contact with Poetry on Peter, too. And then also interviewing you for that show as well, which it never dropped. But that's neither here nor there. They're great. I really love working with them, and I feel like we're married now.

[Mecca]

Yeah, no, that's what I was gonna say. Posture on Peter. This is my first time working with them. And I. To your point, about, like, this, this, this. Like, you could tell you're working with people who love what they're doing, and that makes the difference in how the art comes out.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, that does.

[Jamila]

Yeah. They're very passionate.

[AEM Ali]

That made me happy.

[Jamila]

Creativity.

[AEM Ali]

I like people who work harder than me or period.

[Mecca]

Nobody wants to work anymore.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah. I like people who work really hard.

[Mecca]

He didn't get the right a boy.

[AEM Ali]

They'll do all the work. Hell, yeah.

[Jamila]

And I know they put you to work.

[AEM Ali]

They did. I was just like, damn, ain't nobody giving, like, gas money or nothing. I'm like, what the. Still waiting on that? Guess.

[Jamila]

Well, I keep waiting.

[AEM Ali]

Figure it out.

[Jamila]

So being an independent artist, what does that mean for you?

[AEM Ali]

Being independent?

[Jamila]

How much does that mean to you? Are you going to stay independent?

[AEM Ali]

Oh, I don't know. And I. I don't know if it means anything to me, to be honest. It's just like, the work just has to get done. I don't stop and be like, I'm independent.

[Jamila]

Is it intentional or is it kind of just.

[AEM Ali]

It's not even intentional. It's just like. Is what it is.

[Mecca]

Do you think if you had the opportunity to sign under a big label.

[AEM Ali]

They have the opportunity to sign.

[Jamila]

Oh, let me.

[Mecca]

Shut the fuck up.

[AEM Ali]

Shit, Roc Nation, you will crumble. I ain't say I Ain't say all that.

[Mecca]

Wait, hold on, hold on.

[AEM Ali]

My enemy.

[Mecca]

That's Jamila's thoughts on.

[AEM Ali]

He will prepare the table before me in the pres of my enemies.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[AEM Ali]

No, I got the opportunity to say, until I'm getting the money that I want, I don't feel the need to.

[Mecca]

Like, you know, And I think that's the draw. Being independent. Even though you're doing all the work, you are seeing all the benefits.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, I get everything comes to me, and I don't have to split the.

[Jamila]

Pie with Splits be crazy.

[AEM Ali]

Nobody but I.

[Mecca]

Okay, come on. You can't stop repping Dr. Seuss.

[Jamila]

If you try, it's a bar for everything. I need a 16.

[AEM Ali]

You need a 16?

[Jamila]

I'm just kidding. We was doing that on Deontay's show. He was like, everybody, everybody wants to do the. The freestyles with the rappers coming on. Like, we don't do that anymore.

[Mecca]

No, do a 16 right now.

[Jamila]

16 right now.

[AEM Ali]

Me. No, I'm just kidding.

[Jamila]

We're not gonna make you do that.

[Mecca]

It's a girl podcast, you know, don't.

[Jamila]

Let me do it.

[AEM Ali]

Y' all girl handling me.

[Mecca]

Yes.

[Jamila]

And that's exactly what that is.

[Mecca]

So I'm a little bit interested to know what your experience on tour was. Like, you said that this one is not your first tour, but it is bigger than the first one that you did in terms of what was that like? Selling the venues out, Trying to sell out the venues, and then also being independent, planning your own tour. Like, what do you. What went into that?

[AEM Ali]

Oh, man, I don't know. It was a lot of miscalculation at first because I thought I would have needed, like, five digits to go on tour. Like, you know, hey, I'm going to need, like, $60,000 to go on tour. And then I'm looking at shit, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to need $80,000. And then I'm like, I need $100,000. Shit, I need $150,000. I need a million dollars to go on this tour. So, yeah, it was like, no, I had to raise, like, a good, good deal over six figures to go on tour. I had to, like, learn what paying people was about. Showing up every day, even when I didn't feel like it sometimes to, like, reassure people or affirm people that everything was all right. And it was shit. Just a lot of stuff went from sugar to, like, every day. Like, at first we was all smiles, Kumbaya, and then it's like, we hot. It's like, I don't like this shit. It's like, you know, this is wrong. That is wrong. On top of that, it's like you worrying about selling out venues or stuff not going away. It's going like. It was good, though. It was. It was.

[Mecca]

It was like a solid learning experience.

[AEM Ali]

Definitely a learning experience. But I felt like. I don't know, it was just an experience because I ain't gonna say. I ain't gonna say, like, per se. I learned a whole bunch. I experienced a bunch. And I learned how to, like, compartmentalize and better manage and handle myself and, like, knowing what I could or was was willing to take and accept. And so it was kind of like, I already know this or I already knew that because I'm like, I went on tour, so I know, like, what's supposed to happen. Logistically, it was other stuff where I was just like. I don't know. I kind of want to slap the. Out of somebody today or, like, I just want to. I want to fight, like. Yeah, yeah. You know, my.

[Mecca]

She was over there getting real leadership skills.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, it was.

[Jamila]

Well, did you fight?

[AEM Ali]

No.

[Jamila]

Okay, good.

[AEM Ali]

The urge to, like, beat people up every day was getting, like, stronger, but I was just like, hold it together. Yeah. You know, just punch the air, go behind the toy bus and put it on. Like, hey, man, you're right. Yeah, I'm fine. You got a cigarette?

[Mecca]

Do you smoke cigarettes? Oh, don't do that. You just asked it.

[Jamila]

You know, sometimes it's just like, what.

[Mecca]

About a black and mild?

[AEM Ali]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Each other. Jackson, Mississippi, had to get a little big. Do you enjoy a plastic tip?

[AEM Ali]

Oh, no, no, no, no. I do. I enjoy. What? Wood? A wine tip? Yeah.

[Mecca]

Did you say crack?

[AEM Ali]

What do you enjoy wood or wine tips or plastic?

[Mecca]

Plastic or wood?

[AEM Ali]

Wood tips.

[Mecca]

It's a family podcast.

[AEM Ali]

Yes.

[Jamila]

Not really. We'll be drug testing immediately after this. Raps.

[AEM Ali]

What?

[Jamila]

Just for our safety, we need to.

[Mecca]

Know what's going on.

[Jamila]

But the tour seemed to go very well. I was watching the videos. You were signing titties.

[AEM Ali]

Why you went at the tour?

[Jamila]

I was actually out of town.

[AEM Ali]

Every city that I went to, you were out of town.

[Jamila]

So I was gonna go to the Atlanta show, and I was out of town, so I couldn't go to the Atlanta.

[AEM Ali]

So what did you go out of town through?

[Jamila]

Do you want to get dark? I was at a funeral.

[AEM Ali]

Okay.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[AEM Ali]

What city was the funeral in?

[Jamila]

Mobile, Alabama.

[Mecca]

Did you go to Mobile, Alabama?

[AEM Ali]

I was gonna get Unhinged? No, I was gonna get immoral.

[Mecca]

Do it.

[Jamila]

No, but you don't like Mopel.

[AEM Ali]

No. She was like, he's like, I went to a funeral. It was in Moby, Alabama. Did you go to Moby, Alabama? Did you go to the funeral?

[Mecca]

I didn't go to the funeral, but.

[AEM Ali]

I knew about my beauty.

[Mecca]

I knew about the fume.

[Jamila]

She knew about the funeral.

[AEM Ali]

She knew about the tour.

[Jamila]

I did.

[AEM Ali]

I said, damn, stop with me.

[Jamila]

People got. Can't die.

[AEM Ali]

I don't know. I mean.

[Jamila]

You know what I mean?

[AEM Ali]

They can. What? People can't die. What do you mean?

[Jamila]

I don't want them too.

[Mecca]

Don't you be so sad even when, like, strangers die. Be like, oh, my God.

[AEM Ali]

Cuz definitely. Like, it don't mean to me what it mean to other people. I'd be like, what does it mean to you? No mobiles. I ain't got to deal with these.

[Mecca]

I'm like, sounds like you have some attachment issues there.

[AEM Ali]

No, I have. I have detached from, like, the idea of, like, death, and it's scaring me.

[Jamila]

Like, you know, one day, hopefully I'll get there.

[AEM Ali]

I'm not like a. Oh, I'm gonna die. I'm just like, oh, there it is. I ain't fighting it. I know it's coming. I'm like, here it comes. Well, just imagine me sitting in the house and you feel it.

[Jamila]

You be like, oh, I'm squeezing. No, please.

[AEM Ali]

No, I ain't. I ain't doing all that. God know where he finna take me.

[Mecca]

Come another time.

[Jamila]

Lord, I got.

[AEM Ali]

At least I'm in the house. And I'm chilling. I'm like, I'm gonna see y' all later. They like, what?

[Mecca]

I'm not gonna play with him.

[AEM Ali]

You'll understand in seven minutes. Project got on up out of here. I'm like, call her. Call. Now I'm typing, like, if I feel myself hurting, I'm like, yeah, it's happening. If you get here on time, cool. But if you don't, I won't make it. That's it.

[Jamila]

You gotta go talk to that lady for real.

[AEM Ali]

What lady?

[Jamila]

That lady therapist.

[Mecca]

Or you could talk to that spooky lady, the way you talking, right?

[Jamila]

Somebody. You might need somebody to throw some bones.

[Mecca]

What the hell going on with you?

[Jamila]

Get back to sliding them titties on the tour.

[AEM Ali]

Oh, yeah, I signed a lot of titties. A whole lot of titties.

[Jamila]

Yes. It's giving very much. You was on tour in 1965, live at the Casablanca. Like, that's what it was given.

[AEM Ali]

They didn't even have titties in 1960. I'm just playing. They weren't showing them like that.

[Mecca]

No, they had those bras that were pointy.

[Jamila]

Yeah, they had big old.

[Mecca]

I honestly thought they were.

[AEM Ali]

I don't want to sign no birthday hats. You know, if I walk around with.

[Mecca]

Two birthday hats on this, I think there's. There's sex appeal there.

[Jamila]

It wasn't the boobs.

[Mecca]

The boobs weren't pointy. Just the bra was pointy.

[Jamila]

Was point.

[AEM Ali]

So you wearing birthday hats on your chest.

[Jamila]

It's kind of cunt when you think about.

[Mecca]

I was going to say it was te. When you look back, like them pictures of Jane Mansfield when she's like.

[Jamila]

And then they have that teeny tiny waist. That hip.

[Mecca]

Yeah, that. I don't know. With a good bleach hip.

[AEM Ali]

Just one hip.

[Mecca]

Cuz they only had one.

[AEM Ali]

Just one hip.

[Mecca]

They only had one.

[AEM Ali]

They had too much damn panties on stage. Just out here shaped like the letter is, huh?

[Mecca]

Yes, the letter P. That was a shape back then. Wendy Williams, she would have really lived in that era.

[AEM Ali]

She would have ate.

[Jamila]

She would have ate.

[Mecca]

They would have loved her.

[Jamila]

Stop acting like you don't know what we talking about. Like you just don't be on the Internet. Like you don't be. Come on, it's still 1976. What food was there? I don't. I don't understand what you guys are speaking.

[AEM Ali]

What was eating?

[Jamila]

Was they throwing panties on that stage?

[AEM Ali]

Somebody threw a bra.

[Jamila]

Was it big? How big?

[AEM Ali]

Don't throw your draws. Somebody tried to give me a pair of drawers one day and it was like, they're clean.

[Jamila]

I'm like, she was lying. She took them off right there.

[AEM Ali]

I don't know.

[Jamila]

Granny panty.

[AEM Ali]

Oh, no. But the bra was huge. I'm like, you don't even put titties in these. The only thing that fitted these is watermelons.

[Mecca]

Well, some of the girls do have a watermelon.

[AEM Ali]

They do a watermelon.

[Jamila]

A couple big old.

[AEM Ali]

What's up with the one thing? Like, do you have two watermelons or do you have one? Do you have a hip or hips?

[Jamila]

It's the way we chat.

[AEM Ali]

You know, colloquialism.

[Mecca]

Yeah. Okay, next question. Okay, so you're sitting here, you're dressed before us. We talked before the camera started rolling that I thought your outfit was giving a bit of like Mr. Rogers.

[AEM Ali]

Okay.

[Mecca]

In terms and that complimentary.

[AEM Ali]

What's so funny?

[Jamila]

Raise your hand if you Laugh.

[AEM Ali]

It's so funny.

[Mecca]

Now, listen, it gave that to me because you had your tie, you have your sweater, and I don't know if the camera can see this. He has penny loafers on. Where do you draw your style? Inspiration from, obviously. We know, like, you give a little 70s funk vibe, but this is very much something different.

[AEM Ali]

I got dressed in the dark today. I just picked some up and just.

[Mecca]

Was like, child, be serious.

[AEM Ali]

For real. Oh, I just, you know, you just.

[Mecca]

Said it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

[AEM Ali]

I did not know what I was going to put on today. And I literally just. Like, the shoes and the hat was just like a color block type of thing, because I didn't have, like, shoes that I wanted to wear, a socks that I want to wear to match. I didn't want to go, like, you know.

[Mecca]

Oh, did you grow up putting pennies in your loafers?

[AEM Ali]

No, I didn't, because I've been dressing like this since, like, high school, though.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah. I used to wear bow ties in high school.

[Mecca]

Oh, party rocker.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah. Well, I don't know.

[Mecca]

That was a thing, but I didn't.

[AEM Ali]

Have bow ties, and I didn't know how to, like, tie a bow tie. No, I used to turn my ties into a bow. Yeah.

[Mecca]

Unique.

[Jamila]

Put your tie back. Get yourself back together.

[AEM Ali]

Tell me what to do.

[Mecca]

Now, did this style come from Mississippi specifically, or do you think that this just came.

[Jamila]

This did not come from Mississippi. I know.

[Mecca]

That's why.

[AEM Ali]

Yes, it did. I don't know. Oh, boy.

[Jamila]

No, because this is a church outfit in Mississippi.

[Mecca]

No.

[AEM Ali]

So this is before social media was like, a thing, like, okay, I dressed like this before social media was, like, really, really popular.

[Jamila]

It's not how they was dressed when we. When we. When we rolled down.

[Mecca]

We were in Jackson in the last year.

[AEM Ali]

I've been dressing like this since high school, since, like, ninth grade.

[Jamila]

So it's just your vibe.

[AEM Ali]

I found my little swag. I just, you know, you feel me? I was talked about sometimes for how I dress.

[Jamila]

Oh, no.

[Mecca]

Let's dig what they say.

[AEM Ali]

Fruit, you know, can get a bit phobic sometimes. No, it was like a. I don't know, because I used to have on, like, y' all know, express. The stove. I used to have on, like, an express sweater with the checker pattern. And I have on, like, some skinny jeans with, like, the Chucks, but I had a bow towel. The sweater.

[Mecca]

This is like when forex tall tees were still a thing.

[AEM Ali]

Wasn'T it? Yeah, they were still rocking them. T Shirts like that. Yeah.

[Mecca]

You were in the skinny phase.

[AEM Ali]

I was, yeah. But skinny jeans was in style.

[Mecca]

Skinny jeans was in style. But I definitely remember there was a core group, especially in the black community, like the boys who wore skinny jeans. I remember my brother wore skinny jeans, and my dad was like, what the. You know, like, it was definitely a contingency.

[Jamila]

When your pants. Jeans first dropped. It was. It was worse than sagging pants for old black folks.

[Mecca]

They thought they don't make no goddamn sense and then don't let you have some bright colored shits on.

[Jamila]

Oh, it pissed my daddy off to this day. God damn it. It don't make no goddamn sense. I'm like, relax, Jeffrey.

[AEM Ali]

I was one of them, though. I just thought. I don't know. I just. I didn't want them too tight. And I seen people wearing, like, stocking. Used to wear stockings.

[Jamila]

Little things up there.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

In middle school. So I ain't had much, but it was. It was coming.

[AEM Ali]

Like he had some pecans in his pocket.

[Jamila]

Yeah. It was like, you got to tuck, baby. You got to tuck that.

[AEM Ali]

No, I wore them. I probably only had two pair of skinny jeans that was too tight, and I almost needed to whoop my own ass. I ain't gonna lie. I feel like if you done wore them, you done. You done. Damn. Yeah, you got a pair that was too tight and be like, damn, I know these holes gonna be that tight.

[Mecca]

But you're still warm.

[AEM Ali]

I swagged them all out, though, honestly.

[Jamila]

Had a couple skinny.

[AEM Ali]

They made you have to sag, too. And it was like a thing. Like, we already sagged. Big pants. When you wear skinny jeans, you just. I can't pull these all the way up.

[Jamila]

And one thing about sagging in some.

[Mecca]

Skinny jeans that booties it up, you gonna look thick.

[Jamila]

It's almost like a corset for that ass. And then y' all used to wear them real tight draws.

[AEM Ali]

Yes. How you. Real tight drawers.

[Mecca]

Real tight drawers. Because you couldn't wear the Joe boxer.

[Jamila]

Not the breeze, but the boxer breeze.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

Like, and then if you wore them really tight and then you had the skinny jeans that booty sit up like an apple.

[AEM Ali]

I don't know nothing about it.

[Jamila]

Y' all know what I'm talking about. Y' all know what I'm talking about. When that booty sit up like an.

[Mecca]

Apple, you trying to hide that little bag.

[Jamila]

When boys pretend like they ain't got no booty. Boys got butt.

[Mecca]

He's trying to.

[AEM Ali]

Everybody got a butt.

[Jamila]

No, but boys, you know. Cause y' all be doing. You know, the workout. Did you play football?

[AEM Ali]

No, I ran track.

[Mecca]

Oh, you got that track booty. It was strong.

[AEM Ali]

What the is y' all talking about, bro?

[Jamila]

A track booty was improv.

[AEM Ali]

That's girls. Girls had track asses and volleyball booties.

[Jamila]

Same muscles. Think about it. Think about it.

[Mecca]

And then it go with a dent in the side.

[AEM Ali]

Y'. All. Y' all played sports in high school?

[Jamila]

I cheerleaded and I was a basketballer in the eighth.

[AEM Ali]

So you was a student?

[Jamila]

No, I just played ball with a side ponytail and I was the point guard.

[AEM Ali]

And where I'm from, all the girls who play basketball, you like. Some of them was girls. Some of them stood. It's like. Yeah.

[Mecca]

Yes.

[Jamila]

It's a 80, 20 rule.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, you just did.

[Jamila]

No, I was a 20.

[AEM Ali]

I was a dude.

[Jamila]

Cute with my basketball short.

[AEM Ali]

So you wasn't you. Some of them studs be having ass too, though. Now, that's this.

[Jamila]

Most studs have ass. We were just talking about that, actually. Most studs have ass. You ever seen a stud naked?

[AEM Ali]

I tried to a stud one time.

[Guest Performer]

I tried it.

[Mecca]

I was.

[AEM Ali]

I tried my best. I mustered up all the might I had. She wasn't going.

[Jamila]

Yeah, I bet.

[AEM Ali]

Well, I ain't like that.

[Jamila]

Like, if you try to go to a stud, like, that's for them. That's like, I ain't gay. They would say some like that.

[AEM Ali]

No, you gotta. Like, you say, you what? Hello. What'd you say?

[Mecca]

Can't even catch you. He was gonna keep talking.

[AEM Ali]

If you try to go to a.

[Jamila]

Stud, if you try to talk to us, they'd be like, I'm not gay. Like, I'm not talking to you. You ever heard us say that? I say, they would do that.

[AEM Ali]

Oh, yeah.

[Jamila]

They're like, I don't with that. Gay.

[AEM Ali]

But you are gay.

[Jamila]

But they. You know what I'm saying? Because they're. They're bro.

[AEM Ali]

But it's like. I don't know. I'm like, have you ever seen a fine stud?

[Jamila]

Yes. Yeah.

[AEM Ali]

Like, I got. I ain't gonna lie. One night I tried that. I was just like. I had to kind of, like, ease into it. Like, you can't just be like, left. You got to be like, what's up? You gotta get. You gotta get to know him. You gotta do all type of.

[Mecca]

Cause you know, she's.

[AEM Ali]

No, you don't think.

[Mecca]

Can you call her?

[AEM Ali]

What's up, bro? You talk to him. What's crazy is studs want other men to talk to them. Like, they're like, right in between. It's a fine line.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[AEM Ali]

You can't do like. But you. You also have to remember that she's a girl, but you gotta be like her partner.

[Jamila]

She's like a lady.

[Mecca]

My brother's best friend is a stud.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah. You gotta kind of be like. You gotta be like. She gotta be like your homeboy, but you gotta also, like, he's still a girl.

[Mecca]

She's not caring.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah. You gotta start talking about that, like, makes her reminisce.

[Jamila]

You gotta be like, tight type.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, yeah. She be like, yeah, I talked to one.

[Guest Performer]

Right? They'd be like, I talked to one.

[AEM Ali]

Nigga before, and, like, we had sex. I was like, yeah, yeah, damn. You don't be thinking about that, though.

[Guest Performer]

Like, you don't even be thinking about it.

[Mecca]

Like, man, like, I tried time.

[AEM Ali]

Like, damn, all these years, that might be different. And you just got to kind of like, hell, yeah. But.

[Mecca]

There is something we need to call you.

[AEM Ali]

What?

[Mecca]

We need to come up with a name.

[AEM Ali]

What a man, what a man, what a man what a mighty good man.

[Mecca]

That's what you want to call it? That's not what I'm calling it.

[Jamila]

Oh, so I want to get serious for a second. There always comes a time where we have to be serious and have real serious conversations, and this is going to be the one.

[Mecca]

No more stud jokes.

[Jamila]

No more stud. No more ass. You said in a recent interview that you were only interested in serving the people who want to see it. We really identify with that. We've gotten into some Internet scuffles. Things where people are like. They're just this. They're just that we don't want to see it. And, you know, that just really resonated with us. Like, wow, you know what? But there are people who really rock with us. Let's dive deep into that.

[AEM Ali]

Okay.

[Jamila]

You know, a lot of people have some things maybe to say about the way you present the way you rap. Hickety biggity, biggity. You know what I mean? I was trying to be as serious for a while.

[AEM Ali]

Hickety biggity.

[Mecca]

I thought you were gonna say bippity bobbidi boo. I didn't know where you was going with that shit.

[Jamila]

Okay, wait. I wish I can remember what. So we were with Lou Young the other day, and he was trying to reference who you were by reciting your rap to us.

[Mecca]

Oh, fuck. What did he say? I have, because we said we were like, I am going to tell him you said that, and he's gonna Scream.

[Jamila]

And he was like, that's nigga. Like, something about abomination.

[Mecca]

So he said, fuck.

[Jamila]

It was funny. You just had to be there.

[Mecca]

Oh, wait, I remember he said, that's the nigga who be like, her pussy's astronomical. Yes, yes. That shit.

[Jamila]

I felt we were out. I say, that's exactly who we're talking about. Yes.

[AEM Ali]

Astronomical. Get hold of me. Some astronomical. I'm let y' all know.

[Guest Performer]

Well, I had a stud the other night, you won't believe. It.

[AEM Ali]

Was hidden.

[Jamila]

So, you know, back to the serious part of that question. How do you feel when, you know, people try to, you know, maybe come for you? Because I know, like you said, you know, people have some things to say about you when you were in high school school, dressing like this, you know, the feminine esque, you know, comments. How do you feel about that?

[AEM Ali]

Like, I don't.

[Jamila]

You don't?

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, I just. You gotta, like. You gotta know, like, you're subject to criticism with whatever you're doing. Like, once you put it out there, you got to detach yourself from the outcome or how people are going to receive it. And so it's just like knowing yourself as a person and knowing who you are and what the mission is. Like, it's. I don't know. And I tell people all the time, like, some of the greatest people of all time had to have things like that questioned. You had to have your religious preference question. You had to have your sanity question or your sexual preference or how people felt about you sexually questioned. Michael Jackson, Prince.

[Mecca]

Whitney Houston.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah. Like she was gay.

[Mecca]

So.

[AEM Ali]

Oh, I ain't on. I ain't know. Yeah, but people are going to question like that all the time. It's like, you know, they say people are crazy. They say, what is.

[Jamila]

Why would you say that at the same time? Now, Whitney was gay.

[Mecca]

That's my sister as she rest in peace.

[Jamila]

She was gay.

[AEM Ali]

I didn't know she was.

[Mecca]

She had a whole woman. What's her name?

[Jamila]

What was that? Robin.

[Mecca]

Robin. Love of her life wouldn't let it happen because they were too Christian.

[Jamila]

Yes. Sissy said, not on my watch.

[AEM Ali]

Who is Sissy?

[Mecca]

Her mom?

[AEM Ali]

Yes.

[Jamila]

Sissy Houston.

[AEM Ali]

Oh, I didn't know. Okay.

[Jamila]

She was on an interview. Was it with Oprah.

[Mecca]

And remember, she said, would you have been okay with this? She said, no, no. I was like, damn. Yeah.

[Jamila]

Whitney was gay.

[AEM Ali]

It'd be like that. Yes, yes, darling.

[Jamila]

Lots of people be gay, but you aren't. And that's the more Love the story.

[AEM Ali]

I like coochie.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Jamila]

Period. You have a song called Harry Coochie, don't you? Something like that.

[Mecca]

So I have a question.

[Jamila]

That's real old school.

[Mecca]

No, that is old school. This is. My mom is of that generation in the 70s. And I remember when I was in college and she. Because I have a mom who doesn't care about things, so she just walk in on the shower just like, I have something to do. She was like, why are you shaving? What's going on with that? When in my day, that was seen as, like, your hair was womanly. Like, only babies are involved.

[AEM Ali]

I don't only like hairy coochie's.

[Mecca]

No, I'm leaning somewhere with this.

[AEM Ali]

Okay, cool.

[Mecca]

I wanted to ask you, how is there. Is there such thing as too hairy? Like, because, you know, 70s bushes, you.

[AEM Ali]

Know, one of my uncles told me when I was younger, he said, when it's a lot of hair on it, it's meant to, like, keep you warm in the winter. It's like. Like the pussy. It's like the pussy having. Like a pussy having a coat on. Like the pussy got on a coat.

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[AEM Ali]

And you cold and you, like, give me some of your jacket. And they like, come on in here. You know how you ever share a jacket with somebody?

[Mecca]

Yeah.

[AEM Ali]

And you get in that jacket, you like, damn it.

[Jamila]

Full of.

[AEM Ali]

The only thing I don't like about hair, cooch, it'll scratch you up. Especially it scratchy.

[Jamila]

Like shaving that prickle.

[AEM Ali]

Well, yeah, like that. But also, like, if it's too much hair, you'd be like, damn. And people be saying, like, it's. I don't know.

[Mecca]

Here holds a scent, though.

[AEM Ali]

I ain't down there sniffing around. I'm trying to. I'm trying to get in here and do that.

[Jamila]

Inevitable.

[AEM Ali]

No, like, if you don't stink, it ain't worth nothing. Like, it gotta. If you got a little fun.

[Mecca]

I told y'.

[Jamila]

All.

[Mecca]

I told, you know, if you got.

[AEM Ali]

A little funk on it, like, you gotta.

[Mecca]

Like, I told Jam this. I said the pheromones.

[AEM Ali]

No, but it's not like. I don't know. It's not to me. I don't really.

[Mecca]

You just said it had to have a little musk on it.

[Guest Performer]

No, they.

[AEM Ali]

He told me that. I didn't say it had to.

[Jamila]

So your old head uncle like that Harry twangy.

[Guest Performer]

Harry twangy thingy.

[Jamila]

Harry twangy thing.

[Mecca]

Speaking of twangy, hairy vagina, how do you seek to preserve black culture in the music industry?

[Jamila]

Crazy.

[AEM Ali]

Speaking of vagina, how do you what? Because that ain't got nothing to do with Coogee. How do you.

[Mecca]

We're preserving culture because.

[AEM Ali]

How do I seek to preserve culture?

[Mecca]

Yeah, because the thing is, you know, right now there's this big thing amongst the diaspora about preserving black American culture.

[AEM Ali]

Well, you don't preserve something if you are it. Like, I can't not be black Embodiment. Yeah. Like, I cannot be black or I can't not be myself. Like, yeah, I don't preserve it. I am the it. Like, and once I'm gone, like, I'm no longer here. But it's other black people. So, you know, like. You know what I'm saying? And I think, like, our culture is going to always be, like, the thing. And I tell people, like, we are the. We control the culture of. In the climate of just about everything. Other. Other races. Well, I'm saying white people control numbers. We control culture. Like, whatever. We make things cool. White people take it, make it popular and appropriate it and, like, you know, boost it up, pump it up. And it's just like.

[Mecca]

Yeah, so it's more so unconscious because you. You sampled Teddy Pendergrass tko, and that's like a really iconic black American song to. Even the Grass is honestly, obviously like, an icon. Is that something that you're doing on purpose or. It's just like, this is a part of me, so I just. It just feels right.

[AEM Ali]

It don't even be like, a on purpose thing. It's not even like, I'm just intentionally trying to. My mind is just like. Even when I'm doing music. I literally was writing something the other day, and it was so funny. I'll tell y', all after we finish this what it was, and y' all are gonna record. No, you're gonna laugh. But it was just like. It was. My mind literally says to me, say the blackest funniest ever or, like, the what the fuckest statement ever. And it's not like I'd be purposely trying to do it. It's like, as soon as I start writing, I'd be like, this got to be some shit that's gonna make. Just be like, what the fuck? And it's just like, that's it. And it's like, a lot of the line that I said the other day is only shit that we would be able to relate to. And if you heard it, you would be like, that was fucking funny. And it's so black.

[Jamila]

Like, most of your.

[Mecca]

Your lyrics are like that, though.

[AEM Ali]

Well, yeah. And it's just like, it's so black. And it's like. I try to make it, like, base level to where everybody can get it, but it's certain. If you ain't black or one raised how we were raised, you just not even gonna understand.

[Jamila]

Like, I can definitely feel the Southern. The Southern culture oozing out of your lyrics, because it's like, that was just some real. Like, that's a country Negro right there. Raised on grits.

[AEM Ali]

No.

[Mecca]

Do you put sugar in your grits?

[AEM Ali]

No.

[Mecca]

Okay, good.

[AEM Ali]

Let me tell y' all something. These are the type of countries you got. This type of country you got. Y' all are. We had grits in the house. Country. We are. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Guest Performer]

Let me tell you. Let me tell you.

[AEM Ali]

I am buttered rice with salt and pepper.

[Mecca]

That's very crunchy.

[AEM Ali]

Fried baloney and eggs.

[Guest Performer]

Fried baloney for the meat, cuz I.

[AEM Ali]

Nothing on that. You don't need toast.

[Guest Performer]

Just eggs, Mama.

[Mecca]

That's nasty.

[AEM Ali]

The white rice with the.

[Jamila]

Well, she's not country.

[Mecca]

I'm not. I'm from California. I'm cosplaying.

[AEM Ali]

I've never had balungi. Look, Balagna.

[Mecca]

Listen, I haven't had a Vienna sausages.

[AEM Ali]

You never. You.

[Mecca]

I never had Vienna.

[AEM Ali]

I never had a Vienna sausages.

[Mecca]

No, I've.

[AEM Ali]

I know you ain't from where we from.

[Mecca]

Look ahead. No, I've had Vienna sausages. I used to like them a lot.

[AEM Ali]

I'm gonna tell you how you know you. I'm tell you how you know you ain't from the country. Because. How do you say Vienna if you're black?

[Mecca]

So now it's a crime to articulate.

[AEM Ali]

You know, it's Vienna. Ah, it's Viena.

[Jamila]

That's how you say buying a sausage.

[Mecca]

Vienna sausage.

[Jamila]

I don't. I know it.

[AEM Ali]

We call her by her name.

[Jamila]

Oh, okay. I don't know her.

[AEM Ali]

A mama named A vibe. I'm gonna call her.

[Mecca]

I've literally never heard that. So I believe Viena.

[AEM Ali]

Really?

[Jamila]

I don't think I ever heard nobody. Y' all ain't never said sausage Being a crowd. No, it's being a sausage.

[Mecca]

And he trying to make black enough because I gotta correct.

[AEM Ali]

I mean, there's levels of black.

[Guest Performer]

Like.

[Mecca]

Like, there is no. And I.

[Jamila]

We can have a black off now.

[Mecca]

Well, hold on.

[AEM Ali]

With a. With a darker than you. You want to have a blackout?

[Jamila]

No. Hold on now. Why did we have to go there, brother?

[AEM Ali]

Yeah.

[Guest Performer]

What's this really about?

[Jamila]

I got four black grandparents. Check it. You dig?

[Mecca]

And a Vienna Sausages and viena, since that's how y' all say it.

[Jamila]

Yeah, I'm really.

[Mecca]

But the rice and the. I've only heard people from, like, the deep.

[AEM Ali]

You never had butter rice.

[Mecca]

I have. So the thing is, my grandmother is from deep Louisiana, and that's the type of. I've only heard her talk about. So I do. I do think there is, like, culturally, and I. I'm really glad that regional rap is somewhat coming back because I think there's a lot of value in, like, me being from California and specifically Norcal and, you know, like, I. I think there's value in me being, like. I think there's value in that, but also, like, I can appreciate Metro Boomin's new album because it sounds like when I was in middle school listening to Travis Porter and that's a very Atlanta sound. Yeah, I don't like the area. The era when everyone was trying to be from Atlanta, that was a little.

[Jamila]

Irritating when everybody sounded the same. Yes, I love a regional difference. Like, I think that's why I love music so much, because it's like, you can hear a sound and be like, I know where this person is from. At least regionally.

[AEM Ali]

We don't even have a sound where I'm from, though. I think I'm like, me and Big Critic David Banner to Are like, the standard for the sound. Dear Silas, coming out of Mississippi, we don't have, like, a sound, so I feel like I have to be the person that gives Mississippi a sound.

[Mecca]

Butterfly dose, you feel me? That's. That's a little sound, though.

[Jamila]

Yeah. But I would say Southern, though. You definitely have a. I would say.

[AEM Ali]

For, like, for me, the sound. When Mississippi started to have a sound for me, it started with, like, Big Crib. That was the first rapper from Mississippi. Well, he's actually, like, top 10 for me and taught me how to rap. When I was learning how to rap up until this point, I studied big crit. And so, like, a lot of the. That I talk about, it's like, some of his older subject matter. And so when I was, like, in high school, like, 17 and, like, 18 listening to him, I'm like, that boy that. Oh, why didn't he spin? And I remember, like, riding to school or, like, just doing random with my girlfriend at the time, we'd be listening to Big Critic singing that. And I'm talking. I used have that blasting, too. Je. Bumping, man. I'm talking about. Need some Accutane on it. You hear me?

[Mecca]

Damn.

[AEM Ali]

God damn.

[Jamila]

Time for our game.

[Mecca]

This Is our game. This is unhinged, rapid fire. We're going to ask AEM some very unhinged questions. It might get a little immoral.

[Jamila]

Okay, you know what's funny? When we just did this as rapid fire, it turned into several other discussions. It was nothing rapid about it, and I love that about it.

[Mecca]

And I love that about us because we are just going to contradict ourselves. This very much gives black people talking on the porch.

[Jamila]

Yes.

[AEM Ali]

Okay.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Jamila]

Let's get into it.

[Mecca]

Number one, what is your favorite physical characteristic in a woman?

[AEM Ali]

My favorite physical characteristic in a woman. Oh, physical. Okay. Gotta be, like, the face. How pretty they are in the face.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Jamila]

Just all the whole face.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, like that. Because that's the. That's the first thing you see. Like, people can be. I don't know. I feel like, if you got it. In my experience, like, a fat ass don't affect how good the coochie is. Big titties don't affect. Like. But you meet some skinny, pretty women with some good pussy, like water. And you'll meet thick who got, like, sandpaper.

[Mecca]

Sahara Desert, Right?

[AEM Ali]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

That's a condition.

[AEM Ali]

You hear me? So she, like, pretty. She can be slim and like.

[Mecca]

Now, have you ever tried lube? That helps.

[AEM Ali]

Start that.

[Mecca]

Come on, Hannah.

[AEM Ali]

Crank that.

[Guest Performer]

Crank that weed.

[AEM Ali]

Eat up, baby.

[Mecca]

Rev that up. As a generation.

[AEM Ali]

Spit. Start that.

[Mecca]

We're losing the art of foreplay. A lot of times they just be wanting to stick it in.

[Jamila]

Let's stay there for a moment. Can we have a moment of silence?

[AEM Ali]

Animals don't do foreplay. We are animals.

[Jamila]

Amen.

[Mecca]

Sometimes you need to kiss that neck.

[Jamila]

Tenderoni area.

[AEM Ali]

Where's the area? Where? The tenaroni area.

[Mecca]

Right here in the nape. Sometimes you need to go down to the middle of the chest.

[AEM Ali]

I want a sucking on y'.

[Jamila]

All.

[AEM Ali]

Kitchen back here.

[Jamila]

No.

[AEM Ali]

And that's why I only got a mouth full of naps.

[Mecca]

You not gonna make me feel bad about having taco roots.

[AEM Ali]

All right.

[Mecca]

Any other time. Like tacos.

[AEM Ali]

I love tacos.

[Mecca]

Exactly. Ain't no problem.

[Jamila]

You can get them back like you've been here before.

[AEM Ali]

Tastes like Pump it Up back here.

[Mecca]

I actually thought you were gonna say pink and I.

[Jamila]

Either way. I don't even think they sell that.

[Mecca]

No, they do.

[AEM Ali]

They're back there chewing on a bag of chips. Crunchy, hard as hell.

[Mecca]

I saw Pump it Up in the beauty supply, like, in this year. And I was like, who is still buying this?

[AEM Ali]

Because barbers. Barbers, Barb.

[Jamila]

Okay, okay.

[Mecca]

I was like, I haven't seen it mainstream because you gotta.

[AEM Ali]

You need something to make the spray stick like the fire. When y' all see with them hairlines. That's sharp. Be crunchy and hard up there. But that line gonna stick.

[Mecca]

Yes. Pump it up. No Joe Button. Okay.

[AEM Ali]

I just told somebody about that. I said that got his ass on the song. Said. I said. And I'm. And I'm sitting in the house talking about some. Yeah, don't mind if I do, brother.

[Jamila]

Literally.

[Mecca]

Okay, so which one of your songs best describes you in bed? Harry Coochie.

[AEM Ali]

Hold on. Harry Kuchi. No, no, no, no. Which one of my songs best describes me in bed? Damn. I don't think it's a song that's out already. I don't think it's out.

[Mecca]

Give us a synopsis of it.

[Jamila]

Describe the song.

[AEM Ali]

Big Fat Black Long Nausea. Look, she told us.

[Jamila]

Gag.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah. Damn.

[Mecca]

See, talking like that. Give us a number.

[AEM Ali]

601.

[Jamila]

Not that number.

[AEM Ali]

Don't worry about it.

[Mecca]

Because I was gonna say that's average.601.

[Jamila]

See, we was on. Y' all was on two different.

[AEM Ali]

We need to move on.

[Jamila]

It was gonna get really ridiculous. Okay.

[Mecca]

How big is your dick?

[AEM Ali]

I like this.

[Jamila]

All right, Perfect size.

[AEM Ali]

That's enough dick for anybody.

[Mecca]

You know, the average size is actually 5 to 6 inches. That's why I said it's average. So anything above 6 inches is considered big.

[AEM Ali]

What kind of dick do y' all be used to?

[Mecca]

8.

[AEM Ali]

8.

[Jamila]

I don't even partake in those activities.

[Mecca]

She's a. She says she's a Barbie.

[Jamila]

I'm a Barbie. I don't even have coochie.

[Guest Performer]

Don't got nothing.

[Jamila]

Nothing down there. Like a shoulder.

[AEM Ali]

Don't even do. No, don't even do. I ain't even got, like, a. Damn.

[Mecca]

She got a bag on her side, right?

[AEM Ali]

A bag on her side.

[Jamila]

Yeah.

[AEM Ali]

I don't.

[Jamila]

I don't.

[AEM Ali]

You gotta pop. You gotta pop one of her legs out and let the other do. Flow out of there like that. How you break the Barbie? Oh, I don't know about the song, man. It's just.

[Mecca]

Well, if you can't think of a song.

[Jamila]

Are you, like the song title? Maybe the song title can.

[AEM Ali]

You know, A song that pops into my head is texture song. It's not out, but a song that pops in my head. Oh, no, it's a song called in the Covers.

[Jamila]

In the Covers?

[AEM Ali]

Yeah.

[Jamila]

What goes on in the cupboards? Okay.

[AEM Ali]

Everything.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[AEM Ali]

Licking and sticking.

[Mecca]

Do you eat butt?

[AEM Ali]

Yes.

[Mecca]

Absolutely. That's a real man.

[AEM Ali]

On days that end with a Y.

[Jamila]

Well, every day ends with a wife. You did not catch the joke. He eats ass every day.

[AEM Ali]

All right, when you put.

[Guest Performer]

Yesterday, today.

[AEM Ali]

Tomorrow, every day, Wednesday, this day, that day. I don't eat, but okay. I, like, nibble on it.

[Mecca]

I mean, it's so close.

[AEM Ali]

You just got, like, Danny swimming in that motherfucker.

[Jamila]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mecca]

All right.

[AEM Ali]

Y' all eat butt. Have y'. All.

[Mecca]

No.

[AEM Ali]

No.

[Mecca]

And I know it's becoming more common for women to do, but I don't believe that CIS hetero men are clean enough down there for me to ever consider.

[AEM Ali]

You ever been, like, licking a man gooch and accidentally, like.

[Mecca]

I've never licked the gooch because, again, I'm too scared to go all the way down.

[AEM Ali]

Damn.

[Jamila]

You know, accidentally licking ass is only something a boy could do.

[Mecca]

Because you have to think when a woman is in position, she's there, it's there. You're, like, busted open like a crab.

[Jamila]

You can't accidentally, like, you're like a little crab, and we're talking about it. You don't know anatomy here.

[AEM Ali]

I'm gonna tell you something. When a man is thinner, when a man is. No. And I'm. Oh, no. Some women just get down there and get, like, too wild. Oh, some women get down there and get, like, too wild. Like. Yeah, they turn into, like, a.

[Guest Performer]

You hear.

[AEM Ali]

You hear signs of. You hear signs of, like. Like, you gotta check what's going on when she, like. You hear sounds like. You hear a little. And you kind of like. Oh, you know, you ain't really paying attention. You just kind of, like, laid back, like. Oh, yeah. Because you have a. I was gonna say, have you ever got your chick stuck with, like, one leg up? No audience participation.

[Mecca]

Has anyone in the audience got their.

[Jamila]

Dick stuck with their leg up?

[AEM Ali]

Like, one leg up? You feel me? Then he talks.

[Guest Performer]

He so cool.

[AEM Ali]

He in the back. Yeah, I know this look. He talking about some. Yeah, I know what he talking about. Go ahead and you have one leg up.

[Jamila]

Okay?

[AEM Ali]

You getting your dick sucked. And, like, in order for them to hit the gooch, you gotta have, like, your leg. You gotta have it up, but you gotta have it kind of, like, cocked over a little bit, right? And you. You know, they hitting that. Hey, you hear the look and you just like. And then they. Yeah, you just jump.

[Mecca]

You just clinch.

[AEM Ali]

What that was. Do it again, but stop the growling this time. God damn, you scared me.

[Mecca]

That's how I feel. They was on. Was that Friday after the freaked out auntie and uncle on Friday that I didn't know she was even asking.

[AEM Ali]

Oh, she was eating it.

[Mecca]

But I just know that's the type of stuff they were doing.

[AEM Ali]

They were doing.

[Mecca]

You know, after 40 you get real freaky. You just stop caring.

[Jamila]

It's a thing.

[AEM Ali]

I ain't gonna say that.

[Mecca]

Oh, a like you. I would hate to see you after 40.

[AEM Ali]

What the is that supposed to mean?

[Mecca]

You always talking about Harry coochie now.

[AEM Ali]

Thing like people don't have hairy.

[Mecca]

I mean but when you're 40, it's going to be hairy and bad. You be flossing your teeth with the hair.

[Jamila]

Have you ever gotten hair caught in your mouth? Yeah, that happens, you know. You ever been.

[Mecca]

I did have a piece of hair wash.

[AEM Ali]

Hold on.

[Jamila]

You know, get back to it.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, it happens.

[Jamila]

The best of us.

[Mecca]

It got caught in my throat and.

[AEM Ali]

It kind of chopped.

[Guest Performer]

Yeah, you be.

[Mecca]

Like, I had to.

[Jamila]

You gotta catch it when it hit that tongue. No, I didn't stop him. Hold on.

[AEM Ali]

You don't be knowing it's in there.

[Mecca]

I was gonna say you doing what.

[AEM Ali]

You'Re supposed to be doing. You don't know her supposed to be doing. Cuz it's hair everywhere and it's like you licking it and it got hair down there. So you like not on a penis.

[Mecca]

Cuz it's really supposed to be just up top. Unless we're talking about two different monstrous hairy monster.

[AEM Ali]

Yo, yo.

[Jamila]

Shaft of the penis doesn't have much hair.

[AEM Ali]

You have like.

[Mecca]

No, they, they that if they hairy it go down all the way in.

[AEM Ali]

The butt hair on your. Your shaft.

[Mecca]

Yeah, if they real hairy, you know. And you can always tell the dicks.

[AEM Ali]

Be wearing coats too how much hair.

[Mecca]

They got on their chest.

[Jamila]

That's.

[Mecca]

You could tell how much hair they gonna have down there.

[AEM Ali]

Usually my dick got a leather jacket.

[Jamila]

The boys shave their shaft. It seems very dangerous manscaping.

[AEM Ali]

Nah, you don't. You don't grow dick. I mean you don't grow dick on your shelf. You don't grow hair on your shelf, you know, not the shaft you don't.

[Jamila]

I was talking going to say that seems wrong. Uncomfortable.

[AEM Ali]

Wrong. Wrong time.

[Jamila]

If they had. We're getting too deep.

[AEM Ali]

Imagine it.

[Jamila]

What if. If they had like hairy penises and then like the insertion. That would be very uncomfortable for our VJJs.

[AEM Ali]

Oh, I ain't going to lie though. I ain't going to lie though. That come out with that wave gel on it for real.

[Mecca]

Not a placenta perm come out with that conditioner on.

[AEM Ali]

That you didn't really put some together. Be like, yeah, I'm gonna go get my dick a curl. And he did.

[Jamila]

That's crazy.

[AEM Ali]

Pop that in and come out. He got some leave in on that.

[Mecca]

Okay.

[Jamila]

No, I like that.

[Mecca]

Our next question is, are you on your own sex playlist? And I'm gonna go ahead and answer and I think yes, based on everything that you've told us.

[AEM Ali]

I created a playlist one day, and it's of songs that I have out and unreleased songs. And I fuck so good.

[Mecca]

So, yes.

[AEM Ali]

So good to it. And it's good. Like, it's like, so.

[Mecca]

Yes. So yes.

[AEM Ali]

Break your hip.

[Mecca]

You put. So you do your best work when you're playing in the background.

[AEM Ali]

I do my best. I get the best dick I got on my sleeve every chance I get.

[Mecca]

All right.

[AEM Ali]

Now I cannot afford to, because they'd be like, girl, he'd be rapping about all that stuff. But the dick wasn't all that.

[Mecca]

You don't be tired sometimes.

[AEM Ali]

No, I try not to even do that. Oh, you know what that mean?

[Mecca]

Dang. He don't get tired.

[AEM Ali]

Can catch me about to die. I straighten up and die later. I just.

[Mecca]

You said I got seven minutes left.

[Guest Performer]

Yeah.

[AEM Ali]

She'd be like, come on, let's do it. I'm passing away. I'm like, let me get a shot of your dick flocking up out of here.

[Mecca]

Literally.

[Jamila]

The dick Yelp review is most important.

[Mecca]

It you know that that's you.

[Guest Performer]

I feel like you can give.

[AEM Ali]

Okay. Dick. If you ever give trash. Dick. The dick is always just like, trash. I done probably gave okay dick. Or just enough to get by. I'd be like, I'm. Let me get this bitch a little C and just get on up out of here.

[Jamila]

Just a little something to good.

[Guest Performer]

Average good.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

But you can only do that if it's someone you've been consistently talking to. You can't do that the first time. Hello.

[AEM Ali]

No, you can.

[Guest Performer]

You can.

[AEM Ali]

You can.

[Guest Performer]

If it's trash, it's trash. You can go off and be like.

[AEM Ali]

She can go off and be like. You can ask. You be like, girl, I was the dick. She be like, oh, it was all right.

[Guest Performer]

Like, that's the type of dick I give.

[Mecca]

Like someone you've been talking to for a minute, and it's like, you're known. If we like, putting it down. If you have a bad day.

[Guest Performer]

We've been talking for a minute.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, you didn't got dick all over.

[Mecca]

You so you could have a bad.

[AEM Ali]

Day when you'd have been talking for a minute because, you know, I'm. Listen, I'm in that.

[Mecca]

Sometimes we all have.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, Ain't it like that? It is. You like that little dance, don't it? Ain't it. Look at you eating it butt, right? Well, no, see, that's what we said when you said.

[Jamila]

That ain't what I said when we.

[AEM Ali]

Said something about eating boo.

[Jamila]

You was like, I did do that. Yeah, you got me there.

[Mecca]

Okay, next question. Outside of yourself, who makes the best sex music?

[Jamila]

I can think of a few Chris.

[AEM Ali]

Brown, Usher, Trey songs. R. Kelly.

[Jamila]

You didn't get your keys. Every name.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, like that.

[Mecca]

That's why I said J. Jacques. His only, his only crime is being short.

[Jamila]

It literally got scarier. Every single name you said Chris Brown.

[Mecca]

Chase songs. R. Kelly. Ah, see, Jacques. Oh, my God, Jacques.

[AEM Ali]

I'm sorry, Jacquis.

[Mecca]

You know, this be spelled the same and it's like 17 pronunciations of the same spelling. It's confusing black people sometimes.

[Jamila]

Who's on your sex playlist? G herbo.

[AEM Ali]

What the.

[Mecca]

You know that one song he made when. When Ari was on stage? Like, oh, my God.

[AEM Ali]

Turning your every way but lose, you don't care. He. And they just dogging his.

[Jamila]

My God.

[Mecca]

G Herbo and little Bibby. He has a. Oh, my God, that's even worse.

[Jamila]

That deep ass voice.

[AEM Ali]

Who on your playlist?

[Jamila]

Well, you know, I'm a sensual lady. I like a little Jill Scott.

[AEM Ali]

Shirley Caesar. Go ahead.

[Mecca]

Come on.

[AEM Ali]

Greens, beans.

[Jamila]

I like. Who else do I have? I have d'. Angelo.

[Mecca]

That's a good one.

[Jamila]

Who else is on my playlist?

[Mecca]

You like Tank?

[Jamila]

I love Tank. Yes.

[AEM Ali]

Malia would be nice. Oh, Jody. Yeah. Jodeci. Jodeci.

[Guest Performer]

What?

[AEM Ali]

Hey, take my money.

[Mecca]

Listen.

[AEM Ali]

Okay, all right, all right.

[Mecca]

Fueled by crack.

[AEM Ali]

Huh? What?

[Mecca]

Fueled by crack. Oh, they were on drugs.

[Guest Performer]

They were.

[AEM Ali]

Okay.

[Jamila]

No crack at first. Deontay didn't do that crack when he was singing Cry for you.

[Mecca]

Okay. And Mary J. Blige just spelling smoke.

[Jamila]

It was after they recorded the song.

[Mecca]

Not during.

[AEM Ali]

That sounds like something that would have said after he hit that. Just take everything. My house, in my car. That's a cracking dude for one hit of you.

[Jamila]

Right? All right. It's that type of music.

[AEM Ali]

I missed that type.

[Jamila]

Big for me.

[Mecca]

Yeah. Bring snipping back.

[AEM Ali]

Bring crack back.

[Mecca]

Well, what. That is why crack is cheap.

[Jamila]

I make me too much believers.

[AEM Ali]

We complain about everything being high. Now all of a sudden when crack is affordable. Not that one. Anything but crack. Like.

[Mecca]

Like a lot of Black people. I have people who will have addiction issues to crack in my family.

[AEM Ali]

And they're actually very old, like any black people. Wait a minute. You don't know me.

[Mecca]

The crack epidemic really affected.

[AEM Ali]

You don't know if my focus on crack. You better talk about your folks like that.

[Mecca]

And he is like, 72.

[AEM Ali]

Crackheads live longer than anybody else.

[Mecca]

That's what I'm saying.

[AEM Ali]

Crack. Do you know what the thing is? Crack is actually like.

[Jamila]

It's like a stimulant.

[AEM Ali]

No.

[Jamila]

Okay.

[AEM Ali]

It's a. It's a health drug. That's what they don't take, allegedly. Name a crackhead. You just seen that? I heard about dying.

[Jamila]

And let me tell you something. My uncle died.

[AEM Ali]

Now, the only side effect.

[Jamila]

And he didn't die from crack.

[AEM Ali]

The only side effect is missing teeth.

[Jamila]

No, for sure. Meth will really. Them teeth up. You ever seen them?

[Mecca]

Now, meth is completely different. That's not. We not. The sores on the face and the teeth. We talking about.

[AEM Ali]

Some who smoke meth just be coming loose. And crystals, they just be.

[Mecca]

It's very serious stuff. Too far.

[AEM Ali]

Them should be walking around. I know.

[Jamila]

And them perks is hair wrong.

[AEM Ali]

I know. That ain't my ear. They just hit the flow.

[Mecca]

It just literally fell.

[AEM Ali]

Just screw it back on. Literally.

[Mecca]

The walking. Yeah.

[AEM Ali]

What were you saying, man Child, please.

[Jamila]

You never seen these. These fiends?

[Mecca]

Oh, I have.

[AEM Ali]

Oh.

[Mecca]

Oh, I have, like. No, that's why I said the walk. They literally are like zombies.

[AEM Ali]

Like, Shoulder Lane should have came out in this era. Hit that and get the.

[Jamila]

It's crazy. I've seen it in real life, and it is jarring.

[AEM Ali]

You ever seen a shape, like a right angle but still standing straight up, like, be bent, like, all the way over and shape, like.

[Jamila]

And the gravity, for some reason, just.

[AEM Ali]

Shuts off like the letter L. I.

[Mecca]

Actually saw a woman. Yeah. She was passed out really bad.

[Jamila]

She was obviously. Oh, I hate when the ladies do things like that.

[Mecca]

Yeah, it was. I was like. I had. Then. That was the first time I saw it in person. I said, oh, this is really. This is an epidemic.

[Jamila]

Like, huh.

[AEM Ali]

This is.

[Mecca]

We have to do something about this.

[AEM Ali]

Oh, but you know what, though? What? In that, I feel like we need to start mixing these shits up close. So crack help you live long. Fentanyl gives you supreme balance. You see where I'm going with this?

[Jamila]

Combo. They need a combo. A little cocktail.

[AEM Ali]

You put the right amount of that shit. Jackman Spice everything.

[Jamila]

And you make it right.

[AEM Ali]

The Powerpuff Niggas out here.

[Mecca]

You know.

[Jamila]

Real, real alcoholics do a little coke to pick them back up it level them out. So you might be onto something.

[AEM Ali]

Maybe a Red Bull suffice. I don't know. You know, like they say, looking at Red Bull gives you the same effects as coke.

[Jamila]

Really? And so.

[AEM Ali]

And y' all been on here.

[Jamila]

I don't do it.

[Mecca]

I'm actually not a Red Bull person. I wasn't allowed to drink that stuff.

[AEM Ali]

Nobody drink Red Bull.

[Mecca]

I literally don't. I drink coffee, though. I like an espresso martini. Illegal too.

[AEM Ali]

Okay. Coffee and tequila.

[Mecca]

Yeah, Dead ass.

[Jamila]

I do like a coffee and tequila with a little bit of Bailey's to make it creamy.

[Mecca]

You will be shitty in a couple hours, but, you know, ain't nothing like.

[AEM Ali]

A gas station coffee and a chili dog from.

[Jamila]

My God. My stomach was about to run.

[Mecca]

You want to hear something crazy? When 711 first started making chicken wings when I was in college and they were selling like 10 wings for $5 or something crazy. 3.99. I used to buy them like every other day. Coffee with the coffee.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah.

[Mecca]

Stomach of steel. Okay. I can't do that anymore because I'm 29.

[Jamila]

I'm so weak. Sauce. I'll throw up with anything.

[AEM Ali]

Damn, I threw up the other day. You eat. You eat something, you sound like in your stomach just ricocheting off metal walls.

[Mecca]

I mean, listen, we used to. You ever did the hot Cheetos and you do the nachos and you put cheese and jalapenos and on them, y'? All.

[AEM Ali]

Hell yeah.

[Mecca]

Yeah, that was real good. I like that. But y.

[AEM Ali]

You still drink that, that.

[Guest Performer]

That jalapeno.

[AEM Ali]

Beating, digesting and getting her stomach.

[Mecca]

It wasn't until I came to the south that I saw pickles and Kool Aid and eggs and. And vinegar and I ain't never seen no like that. A little pig feeding in the corner store.

[AEM Ali]

It's called culture.

[Jamila]

Let me tell you something. This is a delicate. See, where I come from, you take a pickle. Now this is something that you can only get from the corner store, cuz it just tastes better. And go to the corner store, you get you a pickle at the big jar, right?

[AEM Ali]

We had to get your own pickle out the jar.

[Jamila]

Exactly.

[Mecca]

It takes about. It wasn't the pack. It's like the jar.

[Jamila]

Listen, you take the pickle, bite the tip off of it, right?

[AEM Ali]

Put a hot chip in, and then.

[Jamila]

You get you a jolly ranch and put it in the middle.

[AEM Ali]

That too. Yeah.

[Jamila]

Delicacy.

[AEM Ali]

I Seen people do that. I see people put the hot chips in there. Put a hot chicken in the middle of the.

[Jamila]

See, I can't do that because then the chips.

[AEM Ali]

Or put the Kool Aid on that. They sprinkle the Kool Aid on that.

[Jamila]

It's just a little. Yeah, we used to put Kool Aid and sugar in the bag. They used to call it booty. What'd y' all call it?

[AEM Ali]

Ketchup on the pill.

[Jamila]

You lost me.

[AEM Ali]

Mayonnaise.

[Jamila]

Lost me again.

[AEM Ali]

Ew, Mustard.

[Jamila]

Keep losing me.

[AEM Ali]

Mayonnaise sandwich. No. Ketchup sandwich.

[Mecca]

That's a real struggle.

[AEM Ali]

Sugar sandwich with the cinnamon.

[Jamila]

Getting closer. We're getting closer. Cinnamon sugar. Butter into the toaster.

[AEM Ali]

A hot dog sandwich.

[Jamila]

Okay, okay. You'll bring me back with the sandwich.

[Mecca]

Bread.

[Jamila]

Cause you ain't got no buns.

[AEM Ali]

Y' all don't know struggle. You don't know struggling until you done had to eat two end pieces of bread.

[Mecca]

No, I actually like the end pieces of bread.

[AEM Ali]

We used to hate that shit. Worse than bread. Niggas would. Niggas would go right in front.

[Guest Performer]

Niggas would go right in the bread.

[AEM Ali]

Right in the bread. And tell the mp. Excuse me, and grab. I'm three pieces behind it. You grab the fourth and fifth piece of bread and pull it out.

[Jamila]

My whole arm in it.

[AEM Ali]

Them two end pieces literally met each other every time until they want no more bread. And go in there and see the two. It was to the point where you just throw them pieces away. These don't count.

[Jamila]

Yeah, them ain't bread. That's just like.

[AEM Ali]

I was like, man, that is crazy, cuz. You know, that's actually like hamburger bread, if you think about it.

[Jamila]

It's different, though, because it. It was on purpose. I don't know. I don't even like the underside of the hamburger. I can't look at it too long. It don't look right.

[AEM Ali]

I see a. Let me tell you something. That's diabolical. I hate when people pick their hamburger up and bite it upside down. I just want to put me.

[Jamila]

I hate when people eat it like this.

[AEM Ali]

That made me want to put 23 worth of quarters in a sock and handle me.

[Jamila]

They do it like. They'll put it like, you know, like this.

[AEM Ali]

You pick the burger up. Like, you pick it up and just turn it upside down and bite it. You just put some quarters in a sock and just handle the. For, like, that. Just.

[Jamila]

I can't watch people eat for too long because they just. Everyone has their things, and I like.

[AEM Ali]

Will stare like, oh, I'll be smacking my ass.

[Mecca]

You guys mix the chipotle bowl up or do you eat it neatly?

[AEM Ali]

I eat it neatly.

[Guest Performer]

I actually eat it like a wall.

[AEM Ali]

It'd be sectioned off the whole time I'm eating. And it's a wall? Yeah, the whole time.

[Mecca]

People who mix their chipotle bowls up.

[AEM Ali]

You know what I hate, though? When I had to get up in the morning and it's sour cream on that, but I gotta heat it up, so I gotta take the whole layer of sour cream off and dump it on the plate.

[Mecca]

Sour cream is one of my condoms. Have you ever seen that girl on tick tock who loves sour cream?

[AEM Ali]

I her man, that's.

[Mecca]

I can put sour cream on anything.

[AEM Ali]

She be doing a lot. That mother put sour cream on a honey bun. Sour cream on it.

[Mecca]

It has a twang to it.

[AEM Ali]

It ain't got no sour cream. Has a twang.

[Mecca]

Yes. That's why it's not cream cheese.

[Jamila]

Sour cream.

[Mecca]

It's called sour cream. It has a twang. It's sour.

[AEM Ali]

It's not sour at all. You eating sour.

[Guest Performer]

You eating spoiled cream.

[AEM Ali]

You eating some spoiled sour cream. Then let it turn into ranch. Yeah. This is perfect. No.

[Jamila]

What is our next.

[Mecca]

What is your favorite sex position?

[Jamila]

Rapid fire.

[AEM Ali]

My favorite sex position? It's called a goddamn. Goddamn.

[Jamila]

It's called what? You. You gonna say some new.

[AEM Ali]

Nah, it just. It's a little position that I be.

[Jamila]

Okay.

[AEM Ali]

I. I tell like. I can't tell you what it is. I have to do it on you to show you what it is.

[Mecca]

You be contorting like a pretzel or something.

[AEM Ali]

No, it's. It's very, very simple.

[Mecca]

Then describe it.

[Jamila]

It's like you got no name or something.

[AEM Ali]

It's like a goddamn. And then when I do it, she's.

[Mecca]

Like, God damn, doggy style. Is she on her knees or is she on her side? Her back? Her stomach.

[AEM Ali]

She is on all fours.

[Mecca]

So it's from the back.

[AEM Ali]

It's not from the back.

[Mecca]

It's from the bottom.

[AEM Ali]

It's from like. I have to get like, at a certain angle.

[Mecca]

But you're still from the back.

[AEM Ali]

Yes, but from the back side that.

[Mecca]

You get on all fours.

[AEM Ali]

You get on all fours. I'll be him.

[Jamila]

She's on all fours.

[Mecca]

And then he.

[Jamila]

You hitting it from the side.

[Mecca]

Because I will say sometimes, like to contort you and get you off.

[AEM Ali]

You ain't contorted. You ain't contorted.

[Mecca]

It's just something you made Up.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah, I made it up.

[Mecca]

What's the name for. Give us the name.

[AEM Ali]

The goddamn Goddamn.

[Mecca]

The goddamn goddamn. That's good.

[Jamila]

I'm gonna leave you.

[Guest Performer]

If I had to give it a.

[AEM Ali]

Name, what would I call this? If I had to give it a name, it's called the Every way but loose. That's how I'm gonna turn your ass.

[Mecca]

I'll be in the bushes afterwards.

[AEM Ali]

No, that's how I'm gonna turn you. Every way but loose.

[Jamila]

Everywhere but loose.

[Mecca]

All right, now, have you ever had help from a sex toy in the bedroom? And if not, would you be willing to help?

[AEM Ali]

No, I've allowed him to come in and.

[Mecca]

A vibrator or an actual, like, dildo.

[AEM Ali]

P. Oh, no, a vibrator. I'm like, if you pull a vibrator out. What are you trying to tell. I mean, dildo out. What are you trying to tell me?

[Mecca]

Maybe she wants you to her with it.

[AEM Ali]

I don't know.

[Jamila]

I think if a lady pulls a dildo out, she wants to you.

[AEM Ali]

I just want to let you know, listen. Oh, but at this point, you a. She pegged, and now it's grounds for like, she pegs.

[Mecca]

Pegging is a thing. There is a pegging. It is a contingency of men who enjoy being.

[AEM Ali]

I ain't never had no woman want me to stick no dildo up her or pull no dildo out.

[Mecca]

Have you ever done anal?

[AEM Ali]

Have I ever done anal to a woman? Damn.

[Mecca]

Is that too deep in it?

[AEM Ali]

Have you ever done anal? Now answer the question. A woman's butt once, just like, it just.

[Mecca]

I don't even like to go, boo boo.

[AEM Ali]

Just once.

[Mecca]

It just. No dead ass. I don't.

[AEM Ali]

You ever done it?

[Jamila]

Huh?

[AEM Ali]

Huh?

[Jamila]

What was the question?

[Mecca]

Have you done anal?

[Jamila]

You know, not really.

[AEM Ali]

What's not really?

[Mecca]

Because the thing that don't understand is that it's hard.

[AEM Ali]

Like, you know, it's hard.

[Jamila]

I feel like to say you've done something and you did it to completion.

[AEM Ali]

Oh, you just like.

[Jamila]

It's like I. It hurt. So I was like, oh, no, I'm going tell you.

[AEM Ali]

I. I scarred somebody so bad one time and didn't know. Like, you know, like when it slip out and it hit.

[Jamila]

It hurts. If you. If you're not prepared for that.

[AEM Ali]

I had. Sorry.

[Mecca]

You did what?

[AEM Ali]

He slipped and slipped into it. And when I tell you she shot.

[Mecca]

Off that mom a wonderful episode of Unhinged anymore.

[Jamila]

Wait, we didn't finish.

[AEM Ali]

I did.

[Mecca]

They said wrap it up.

[Jamila]

Yeah, we can finish.

[Mecca]

He talking about. He Done put it accidentally in somebody's butt. I don't want to hear no more.

[Jamila]

Just answer. Just ask the last question, girl.

[Mecca]

Okay, Akeem. Do you approach women, or do you like when women approach you?

[AEM Ali]

I stop hollering at. And it's not like I'm, like, the type of, like, you got to talk to me, but I just be like, I don't per se approach women. We talk or we just start, like, a conversation. And then it'd be like, oh, she. I. I kind of like her. And it just go from there. It ain't like, hey, very natural. Let me get your number. I stopped doing like that because once you reject me, now I'm writing about it in the song, and then I'm just, like, sensitive. I ain't no. I don't.

[Mecca]

That's the same Taylor Swift did. She got a bad rap for doing it, though.

[Jamila]

Oh, writing songs about all her lovers. Yeah, Yeah.

[AEM Ali]

I write about experiences that I'm having because people can relate to this. But no, if you. If you don't want me, I ain't mad about it. It's, you know, is what it is.

[Jamila]

I'm going, so what's your best pickup line? Go. You're a man of many words. I. I know you got something in that pocket.

[AEM Ali]

I don't have a pickup line. I'm just like, with me. No, I'm gonna tell you something. I am the pickup line. Like, once you see me, you know, whether you want to or don't want to, I just let that be what it is. It's like, you're gonna know Mr. Rogers tonight. You know, whether you want to Somebody when you. Okay, what's the name from Reading Rainbow?

[Jamila]

You're giving me the rainbow in our book, Reading Rainbow.

[Mecca]

He's from Sacramento.

[Jamila]

What was the. Where we at? Oh, yes. Pick up lines.

[AEM Ali]

Yeah. I ain't got. I am the pickup line. Like, I pick you up when it's. It just is what it is. So, like, what are we doing? Barbecue or mil do?

[Mecca]

Barbecue or what mil do. I don't get it.

[AEM Ali]

Don't worry about it.

[Jamila]

I think it was just a little bar.

[AEM Ali]

You picking up what I'm putting down?

[Mecca]

I didn't. That was too country for me.

[AEM Ali]

All right, this has been another episode of.

[Mecca]

Exactly. This has been another episode of Unhinged.

[Jamila]

We have something to announce.

[Mecca]

Oh, I keep trying to end the show, and we trying to get these people to go home.

[Jamila]

We have to announce his. What he has coming up.

[Mecca]

Oh, what do you have coming up? Levar texture. Three.

[AEM Ali]

Okay, I got a texture tape three coming out. It'll be here soon on all platforms, so look out for that or tonight, Nothing else.

[Mecca]

Beetlejuice reference, maybe.

[Jamila]

Okay, thank you so much for joining us. Now we're gonna enjoy an amazing performance. What songs are you gonna be giving us today?

[AEM Ali]

Polyester and Good Looking Adjectives.

[Jamila]

Period. Okay, well, let's get on to it.

[AEM Ali]

Let's roll. Let's go.

[Jamila]

Rollin.

[Guest Performer]

Champagne cork, I'm a pop out I feel like a mountain in an avalanche the way I've been getting my rocks off hold on. Talk to him, King.

[Jamila]

Keep going.

[Guest Performer]

Roll every chance he can. I'm stylish and witty and even my trousers are Diddy I'm Mr. Fancy Pants Let me get in my zone I'm an architect and I'm dead fresh I'm a carcass, yes, I'm still funky Polka dot wasn't enough, dog I want more spots in the parking deck I start the flex and have to remind myself I'm the pinnacle so let me pop it in intervals Biggest step for you and that man and it's ironic I'm a killer wolf, baby I'm rolling, I don't do jiving I'm righteous, polite and my vibe is the nices Every bar has a problem for suicide calls Every hotline is a crisis I shine in the light Been perfecting my time in my third eye is blinking my pond to your bright could be holding on by a string I still take it high hey, this like flying the kite Is you thinking you thought I fell off my pivot, dog I'm an executor, I'm a predator, you pray if I'm riding me look like they blessing noodles hey man telling my Billy oh, no I steal the show and they don't know who to rob I keep the blade on me if I draw it a square, go crazy, you do the box, you a strip to a king I try to focus on life in the simple of things I'm starving so I'm still spitting like Triple H before he enter the ring and I don't get tired of spazzing this on the floor like when Velma be finding her glasses Some of y' all hoes just early dispensals and it don't work out when you try to be classy I'm on another level with this that I utter you boo, boo, boo that I stutter I came as my window of opportunity and that's just some that I been to my shoulders, baby I'm Cooling and cool, I'm the nigga you should bring you a rugal or two I don't do Netflix and chill I be vibing for real so we can just hulu and groove I got a big so find in my eyeball sweat I urge you to try y' all best to stop all that dialogue and when you see my H before I punch where your eyeballs at.

[AEM Ali]

The.

[Guest Performer]

Rally.

[AEM Ali]

Thank you. Let's get into it.

[Guest Performer]

Okay. Beautiful, handsome, pretty, fantastic, astonishing, awesome, amazing. Hey, don't you know it?

[AEM Ali]

Don't you know.

[Guest Performer]

I say Beautiful, handsome, pretty, fantastic, astonishing Outside some amazing don't you know it? Rolling, rolling. Look, say instant confidence. For me, the ambience for me, the nerve that I have to walk around here looking like a compliment. For me, I go by big daddy, I go by fine as hell. I go by choosy lover, the fine dime picker, new groupie getter, the hoochie hugger. Call me sexy, Call me your wildest dreams. Call me handsome, darling, my features properly conduct themselves. I look like mamas, darling, I'm beautiful. My skin tone is rich and pretty. I'm guapo. I look like well done. I look like good job. I look like bravo. This perfection in the flesh and it's the epitome of God's image. I use my face as an active resume and get jobs with it. I look like ooey. I look like fuck it up. I look like you better. I look like somebody chose you but saw me and said, I like you better. Oh, I'm cute Jesus.

[AEM Ali]

I'm sexy.

[Guest Performer]

My God, I'm vibrant. I'm a cross between attractive and elegant. I'm a hybrid girl, I'm such a stud. A dream come true and what they can't wait for. See, I look like when you get your check, you should bring it straight to me. I'm easy on the eyes. I'm a sight that they sit and pray to see. I'm resources, I'm good in services, they should pay for me. I look like. There it is. I look like. No, you did. Yes, he did. I look enticing. I look superb. Look like. I bet he is appealing is my middle name and gorgeous is my first. So let me cordially report that I'm adorable. Insert another synonym. I look delightful. Scratch that, I'm 10 of them. I smell like one vanilla, cocoa butter shade and cinnamon.

[AEM Ali]

I look dazzling.

[Guest Performer]

I look delectable. I look delicate. I'm poker toodinous. I'm angelic. I look like etiquette. Call me radiant Call me rabbit shit Call me statuette say I'm splendid Call me divine say I'm a snack at best I look fantastic if you a pill papa I look like Xanaxes and if you got heartburn I look like ant baby Y' all look like sexual healing uh huh I look like a massage this drive I got open doors for me I look like a garage I look like holy cow I look like yeah I hold a crown if you told your girl like deep she pump her brakes and say hold it now I look like oh yeah right there I look like hell yeah I look like I ain't missing no meals look like I'm well fed look like my don't stack I look righteous look like the right answer look like a lot of white blood cells I look like I fight cancer Hey I look like your dog gone farther I feel my cup and daddy run over just to look like I walk on water, baby Yo. Beautiful, handsome, pretty fantastic I'm stunning I awesome, amazing don't you know, baby? I'm beautiful, handsome, pretty fantastic, astonishing, awesome, amazing hey, don't you know it, don't you know Sauce.

[AEM Ali]

That's it.

[Mecca]

Oh, my God.

[Jamila]

Akim Ali, Kimi Casanova.

[Mecca]

He came and burnt the house down. Shout out to Sexual Chocolate. The van did their digs.

[Jamila]

So, so amazing. Vibe controller once again. My God. On today. Can we get one more vibe? One, two, three, Hit it it. I love that power texture. Tape three. Coming soon. Whoo. Thank you so much for coming yet again every Thursday. Unhinged, immoral. See you later.

[Mecca]

Bye.