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In this episode, Whitney is joined by UH contributor Max Jones to discuss the influence of the PayPal Mafia's Peter Thiel on Trump's HHS, the likely policies of a RFK-led HHS, and what the expansion of the contracts between HHS and the Thiel-founded Palantir portend for the expansion of the surveillance state.

Follow Max: @maxyyjones, Max Jones | Substack, Max Jones | Unlimited Hangout

Originally published 02/10/25.

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