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Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Welcome back to this week's episode of Unlocked.
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I wanted to hop on here because this week's episode was filmed a few.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Weeks ago before Steve McBee's sentencing hearing. And since then Steve McBee was sentenced.
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To 24 months in federal prison.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And my heart goes out to he and his family. I obviously know this life all too well. Stephen, having him on this podcast means the world. I absolutely love his strength and he reminds me so much of myself during my parents legal troubles because he's kind of holding it all together and he's the quiet one that everyone kind of.
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Seems to forget about.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
You know, it's like the really strong one but keeps all their emotions in. And I just wanted to come on here and say that this was obviously recorded pre sentencing and now Steve McBee.
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Was sentenced to 24 months.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
He will hopefully only serve nine to 12 months of that with different programs that he can participate in.
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But I.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
When it comes to this case, I honestly think it's such a waste of taxpayer dollars to have this man sitting in federal prison over a sum simple mistake that comes it has to do with his crops and stating something was one of their machines malfunctioned and he said that they planted on a date that was maybe a little off. But I it's. You guys know me, you know how I feel when it comes to things like this. But I'm just here to say that obviously we the Chrisley stand with the McBee family and their show, the McBee dynasty is absolutely amazing. It got picked up for a third season And I cannot wait to watch. I also just. All my thoughts and prayers go out to their family, and we, the Chrisleys, are here every step of the way. So I hope you enjoy this week's episode. You definitely get a little insight onto what happened with the family and how things look like going forward. And is there anything off limits?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Not at all.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
I love this. I love this. Please tell me we were already recording when he said that.
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That's great.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay, this is how we're going to start this. Welcome back to this week's episode of Unlocked. I like to say I'm excited. I think I say that on every podcast, but I am really excited about this. And we have Stephen McBee Jr. On welcome.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Thank you so much for having me.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And we started this off great because out of respect, I always ask, is there anything off limits?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
And.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And you said, no, not at all.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Bring it on. Yeah. Anything and everything. Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
See? And that is why y' all show the McD. I can't even speak today.
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What is wrong with me this morning?
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That is why y' all showed the McD. Oh, you say it.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
You say you show the McBee dynasty. There we go.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That's why it has been so successful, is because you've just put it all out there.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah, I think so. Going into it, we said, hey, we're not gonna hold anything back. And I don't think we realized at the time just what that meant. Having no filter. We have some regrettable scenes where it's like, did we really not hold back there?
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
What was What. What's this scene you regret most?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Me, personally?
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Yeah, you personally.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
We came down to Nashville in season one, and we went to Whiskey Row, and I was pretty tore up by the end of the night, and I think I had my shirt off in Whiskey Row and was being danced on.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Stop. That's amazing. I told you. I'm going home today, and I am going to binge all of this. So you probably will get, like, 5,000 text messages of what were you thinking?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
For sure I will. Yeah. And you'll be like, what in the hell is wrong with your brother Cole? And I'll say, I don't know either.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
I don't know either. So for people that aren't, like, familiar with your show, give us a little background of your family.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah, So I have three younger brothers. My dad. We run a farm and ranch in Missouri. A very large family farm and ranch. And we have a bunch of other businesses, too, in and around Kansas City. So you have all the drama that Comes with entrepreneurship and day to day running a family business mixed in with our personalities. And my dad and my brother Cole are two of the largest personalities I've ever been around. A great time. But again, when we talk about no filter those two, you couldn't put a muzzle on them if you tried.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That is amazing. So first season, your dad was in the show, right? Yeah, so he was in the show. And was he like a fan favorite or not so much a fan favorite.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So he was a. It depends. He's loved or hated. He's very polarizing just because he is. You know, he was married to my mom for 28 years, and since they have been divorced, he said, I will never be married again and I'm going to enjoy dating. Which includes multiple women at the same time.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Do the women know that?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes, they do. So that's what's, like, a little strange about it.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Is that not alarming to him?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I've tried to warn him, like, hey, if a woman is okay with the fact that you're telling them you're dating multiple at the same time, that'd be a little bit of a red flag.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah, I would say a little. I would say a lot of. Bit of a red flag.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
He busts right through him and.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Interesting.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
He has some red flags himself.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
What's his type of.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Well, if you watch the show for some reason, and I don't know how he found this because we're in the middle of America.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
She's got an axe.
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Where is she from?
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Russia.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
There's multiple Russians. There's multiple Russians.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So he loves his Russian women.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
He has a weird fetish with Russian women. Yes.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay. How did he find them?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
That's. I have no idea. They're in Missouri. No. I've asked and I can't really get a straight answer about where he met either one of them. So they were both friends. Now they're not so much.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
It's like a Sister wives thing.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
If you watch season two, it's a. Yeah, it's a mess between the two Russians.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah. Didn't one get arrested for, like, multiple times.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Doing some crazy stuff.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes, absolutely. So Russian number one, after Russian number two started dating my dad and she found out about it, she went up to our farm and destroyed Russian number two's car using a hammer. Yes.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Russian number one and Russian number two.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
That's how. Yeah, that's how we. Yeah. Differentiate. And then. So that was the first issue. Second issue was right after we stopped filming. Russian number one broke into my dad's house. To try and fight. Russian number two got arrested. This was all.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
But why are they fighting when they know about each other?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Because, I don't know. Russian number one thinks that she can change my dad into being an exclusive married man with her, and it's just not going to happen.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
People, unfortunately, don't change.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
They don't. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. The man is 53 years old. He's not changing.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
I will say I saw, because like I told you, I haven't, like, watched a full episode, but I always see the clips that are on social media. And your mom sat down with one of the Russians.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And it was a very, like, she's so protective of you guys. But she's like, hey, y' all need to figure this out for the boys. Like, correct. It was a very mature. Honestly, it was funny because I was like, watching your mom and I was like, she knows. She has all of them, like, in the little palm of her hand, and it was the best thing ever.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
My mom is a sweetheart, but if you cross her or you cross any of her boys or you put any of us in danger, which Russian number one is the COO of our company. And so with her having these crazy crash outs over my dad, my mom came in there and said, hey, you need to straighten up because you're a part owner of the companies and my boys are being affected. So you're going to straighten up.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Now, why in the world would she.
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Be the COO of the company?
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That is not a smart business move.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
No, it is not.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
When you're dating multiple women.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I. We didn't know. I didn't know this at the time. So Galena is her name came in. She's a rock star on the business side of things. Had no idea that her and my dad were dating. Which, in hindsight, I don't know how I missed the signs, but it was too late by the time I found out everything. So we're already too intertwined with loans, you know, business equity, things like that. So, yeah, my dad's made a real solid mess of things. Yeah.
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That's amazing.
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Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So when you started filming the show, first off, you were on a dating show before this show?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I was.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
I had no idea.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah, it wasn't a very big show. There hasn't been a lot of people that watched it.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
You were on a dating show?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I was.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And then you met your girlfriend, Kala, right, is her name?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes, ma'. Am.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And what? You just called me ma'.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Am.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Oh my God.
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Oh.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So with your show has followed yalls relationship and what is that? Where is it now? It's non existent clip of y' all to where you apparently paid for some of her expenses.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Correct.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And then I saw where she did a TikTok recently of like setting the narrative straight and this didn't happen and that didn't happen. And so what is the backstory with that? Because I've never had a boyfriend's family pay for my expenses.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So I felt. So she moved up from Dallas to. And you know, we had a very on and off relationship for two and a half or three years. And I think that I almost felt guilty because I come from, even though we're a mess, such a supportive, loving, helpful family from a, you know, business perspective, from a family support, personal relationship support. And she didn't have that growing up. And so I almost felt guilty, you know, that I had this. This great Family support. And she didn't. So whenever we broke up, she moved back to Dallas. She didn't have anything to fall back on. And I wanted to make sure that I care about her as a person first and foremost outside of our relationship. So wanted to make sure that she was set up to not just fail when she got back to Dallas.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That's awesome.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
We're paying for some things and that has stopped now. So she is completely self sufficient as far as I know. I haven't talked to her, but we've stopped paying.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That's awesome. But that's a very. You're being the bigger person there. And that's a very responsible thing, especially at your age is like, hey, this is the right thing to do even if we're not together.
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And.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Why did it end?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So there was just a lot of issues.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
The clips I saw your mother and people were not a fan. So why did it last as long as it did?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I have. I do have an idea. She was gorgeous and I'm.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
You were thinking with just one head.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Wrong head. Yes. Yep. And my family and her did not get along. And what you see on camera is maybe even filtered a little bit more than the actual almost hatred that my family had towards her and her towards my family. And it became so toxic that even when I was trying to repair the relationship between my family and her, it was so far gone. And I do I have some responsibility in that too.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
What responsibility was yours?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So if we had a fight, my family, my brothers, my mom, my dad, those are the people that I go to to vent or tell problems to. So if we had a big fight, I would call my mom or I'd go to my brothers and be like, man, I'm so frustrated. Here's what Khalid did or said. And you're always cannot do that because.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
You can easily go get laid and forgive her and 30 seconds.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
And your family does not.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And your family does not. They remember every single thing.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
And that's what happened.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah. So you learned a good.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
That's a good learning lesson that I learned. Yes. Probably the number one lesson I learned from that relationship. Don't vent to family.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah. Do you. You can vent, I would say, like, but you can't give all the information. All the information. And especially like if someone were to cheat you tell that to your family, you just better call the relationship done.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Like that just is what it is.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
And I'm an open book. Like wear my heart on my sleeve to pretty much everyone. So that is something like moving forward. Into future relationships. I'm gonna hold back a little bit.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So how long ago did you finally call it quits?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
It is October 6th today. So exactly a year. Pretty much exactly a year.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Really? Okay. And dating since then?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Dating since then is a little difficult. I live in the middle of nowhere, so there is not a big dating pool in and around Missouri. Especially like my farm, which is an hour outside of the nearest town or city. Like decent sized. So it's been a little rough. You know, I've gone on a few dates here and there, but none of them have really worked out. And I'm also. Right now we're dealing with a lot too.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
You know, so it's not the greatest time to start up a relationship for sure.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Now, do you have any really bad dating stories? Like, like has there been a date that stuck out that you were like, what the hell am I doing?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
There's been a few. Yeah, there's been a few. There was one girl and I tell this story funny now and hopefully she doesn't listen to this. I'm not going to call her out by name, but all she ate for every single meal was tuna. So here's where I'm going with this. I love a good like tuna casserole for dinner or something. Do you know what happens when you cook tuna in a house or an apartment? Oh, it smells so bad. She woke up at 6am and was microwaving tuna.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Who microwaves tuna? What torture.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
My condo smelled like tuna for two months after that.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Oh, so is that what really did it in for you?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
100%. Like, I never even. I never thought that would be a red flag. 100%. I look out for that now. I'm like, hey, do you like eat tuna for every meal? Weird question. I'm just making sure of this.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That is. So how did you break up with like, were you dating or were you.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
No, no, she'd flown in. That was the. Really, the time. I'd hung out with her for a substantial amount of time. Social media.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So you slid into our dms.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah, yeah. Where's she from?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I can't give that much information. I'm starting to like dial in on who it is. She's from up north, so from north of Missouri.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay. And okay.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay. See, I want to ask more questions. So that didn't work. Do you have like criteria to where they need to be?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Like geographically?
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
No. No. Because clearly you don't care about that.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
No.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Just like your type prototype. Yeah.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes. Yeah. It's bad.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
What is It.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Blonde hair, generally lighter eyes, larger features. Up top.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
This is amazing. Everything you just said is so superficial.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I know.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And maybe that's why you're single at 31.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I agree 100% with that, actually. Yeah, I'm working on that. My mom tells me the same thing pretty much every day.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay, well, at least your mother is telling you that. Okay, so maybe, like, do they have to have a job?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So that is a new requirement, too. That was an issue in the last relationship. No job thing. So, yeah, I'm building out this list of, like, learning lessons that I've figured out.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
What you need to have is your non negotiables. You have to write them down. And you cannot change if you meet someone and they don't meet those non negotiables. You can't change your non negotiables just because she has big tits or a big ass.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
You sound like my mom. Like, literally the exact same thing my mom is saying to me every day.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yes. Good.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay. Well, we've learned that. So, yeah, I would tell most people and women, if you're listening, stay out of his inbox for now. He's got some work to do or just go through.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So I have. My brother's girlfriends are sort of my filter now. They do, like, the initial deep dive.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
And then they filter out the ones that should be on my list and then send over to me now. So, like, go through them first.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Go through them first. Okay.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah. All right.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
There's your little. All right. This is like a frickin dating show. God. All right, so now the dating. So now you're single?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes, ma'. Am.
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Quince.com unlocked so season three of the show has gotten picked up. So you're about to start filming.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And what is that going to touch on?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Anything and everything. I mean, the big storyline is going to be my dad's legal situation.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So tell us a little about that.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah. So my dad pled guilty to a one false count of turning in a false statement to crop insurance. And what people don't realize is that is truly taken over the last two to three years of our lives. Yeah. And you obviously know this well. You feel like you're wearing the scarlet letter on your chest everywhere you go.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Mm.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Every conversation you have, you can see it on people's faces that whether they want to bring it up or not, every bank you talk to, every business associate, associate, client, I mean, it is like a black cloud over your head. Yeah. So it's been tough.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And so you've really, out of all your siblings, had to take on the brunt of a lot of things with the business.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Correct.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Because of everything going on with your dad.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Correct.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And when. How would you say that's affected you?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Well, I think that when we talk about, you know, I've been single for a year and I'm not. I haven't been overly concerned with dating because I know that that situation has to take top priority and the businesses have to take top priority right now. Like I wouldn't have time to, to bring anyone into my life and give them a substantial amount of my time, energy or effort because all of my focus has been on I've got to get the businesses through this.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
And we still, you know, as of this podcast, we're still not to sentencing D. And I feel like I've prepared as much as I can for it, but you just never know what happens on that day.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Well, yeah, you just don't. And what a lot of people don't realize is, with which I've talked about this a lot on the podcast, but even when people plead out, they. It doesn't necessarily mean they're guilty. It just means I'm either going to take my chances going to trial. And I think, I think our case showed a lot of people, especially in the public eye, if you take the chance and you go to trial, it's a serious gamble. Yeah. You could get absolutely shafted and you don't know how much time you could get. So it's. It's a lot of time, money, energy, effort that goes into it. So sentencing date comes up and what are your lawyers telling you?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
We're hoping that it is just four years of probation is what, you know, we're. The prosecuting attorney is coming down and recommending. But at the end of the day, federal judges have the leeway to go whichever route they want.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So federal prosecutors, what are they. They're recommending?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Correct.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So no time.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Correct.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Wow.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yep.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And that's not really heard of.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
No, no, it's not. And I think the reason why is because we were so willing to open up our world and just say, hey, like, like you said before this whole ordeal, I always read headlines of, you know, what you'd be considered criminal activity and thought the world was black and white. And what you find out as you dive into these is, no, it's really not like, it's not like someone is a criminal just because they pled guilty. Maybe they were just choosing the best of a bad situation or they didn't want to take the roll of the dice of a potential worst punishment and you didn't want to tie up the energy effort. You know, if you string things along, you actually go to trial, it could be extended four to six years.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Well, that's what ours was. So we, what they got federally indicted August 12th, I think, of 2019. We didn't go to trial until 2022.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah, it takes a while. And you. For people that have never been in that situation, and it's something that I don't get the chance to talk to many people. That's why I've enjoyed, you know, talking to you about it is the mental anguish and toll that it takes on you. It's hard to even describe to someone that's never gone through it and you're like, why would you plead guilty? Or why would you just, you know, give up?
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Like that has unlimited resources.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes.
Podcast Co-host or Sponsor Announcer
Literally unlimited resources.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
To do whatever they want to do, whenever they want to do it. And unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't have that. Correct. And it's also the time. And when you are speaking of someone that's like our father's age wasting five years trying to fight something and then.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Still having the punishment that came out of it.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yes, it's. It's a lot to gamble, especially when you have kids and grandkids and things you want to see and do is really hard. But how have you.
Podcast Co-host or Sponsor Announcer
When.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
What would you say was your lowest point with all of this?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I would say, really, when everything first came out, the news broke that he pled because we knew that's what the plan was going into it. This would have been last November when it all hit the media and all of that came out. Like I said, it feels like you're wearing the scarlet letter everywhere you go. And I've still felt like that to this day. And you try to keep your chin held high and you know who you are as a person and you know what your character is. But you read articles and you read about all these things and the way that they try to manipulate the headlines or manipulate the article, it makes you start to question your character. And you're like, I know I'm not that person. I know my family are not these people. And everything you're reading is so negative. It does start to weigh on you.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah. And what would you say has been the biggest maybe misconception or lie that has been put out there about you guys?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
That everything we've built, all of our businesses, the years and years of absolutely backbreaking, pretty much seven day work weeks that we do, was all fraudulent. Like, I mean, they have taken that one specific instance where it was one count of making a false statement to crop insurance and umbrella ed it to every business we have from 20 years ago to today.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah. And that's. That's uncalled for, not fair. But it is what the media likes to do. That's tough. Yeah, that's tough.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
It's been stressful. I'll tell you this. I feel like the last two to three years have aged me about 10 to 15 years.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
I know it sounds crazy, but the moment sentencing is over, you're gonna feel a weight lifted even if it goes bad.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Correct.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Just because you finally have an ending closure.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
And we have the worst part of. And this is in any situation you're ever dealing with, I can deal with anything if I know what's happening. It's the anticipation and the Unknown. That makes it so bad on you.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
With our situation, it's gotten delayed four different times and we're like, yeah, we.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Just want to happen. Like, please just happen. Like, this is not a way to live.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Correct.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
How's your dad coping with it all?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So my dad is the most stress tolerant man I've ever been around. I think he's. You worn the battle scars of being in business for 25 years and dealing with stressful situations. So he's dealing with it. Out of all of us, I'd say the best. I'd say out of the. I think I'm probably the worst out of everyone dealing with it. Oh, I'm a stress ball 24 7. Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Well, see, I know, like, when I spoke to him, I. Because I know all you guys are like, all right, yeah, just hoping, probation, this, that, whatever. And I was like, hey, you do not need to look at it that way. I was like, you need to look at it from absolute worst case scenario.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
I was like, because these lawyers really don't know, like, and they don't know what prison's like. They don't really, Once you're convicted, I like to say they don't know anything after that, you know, And I was like, hey, you need to act like you're gonna serve time because then if anything better comes, you're like, oh, thank God.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Versus going into it like, oh, just probation.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
And then you're disappointed, ball dropped on you, and it's just like, like overwhelmingly bad.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And that's the thing, which I'm like, hey, just prepare like you're going. And I even told him, I was like, you need to be prepared if they were to take you that day. Because you never know what a judge is thinking or what animosity they hold or try to set an example. You just don't know.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Right.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So it's like, you don't. Like my parents, I was like, we were shocked they weren't taken that day. Everyone else was. I don't know what this. But, you know, luckily they weren't. But still, like, you just want to plan for if that were to happen, correct?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah. And then I think that's what we're going into it thinking is, hey, I know what the, you know, federal prosecutor is recommending just probation. But we're going into this saying, expect worst case scenario. Anything other than that, and we're going to be pleasantly surprised.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah, that's. That's awesome.
Podcast Co-host or Sponsor Announcer
God, I can't.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And then filming all of it too. And It's a lot.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
It's a lot.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So how's your mom? And so when did your mom and dad get divorced?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Officially in 2020, but they were separated really since 2013 or so.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Really?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
How would you say that affected you?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I think it's definitely given me some commitment issues for the most part, as far as just wanting to make sure that whoever I end up with and decide to marry, it is 100% the right partner. And then also I think that, you know, being the oldest, I am certainly a mama's boy. So I think my mom is probably the greatest person to ever walk the earth, literally, besides Jesus. She may be number two. That is how great that woman is. And so, you know, I do get to see things from her perspective, and I think it's done a good job of love my dad, respect so much about him, but I get to see and hear things from my mom's side, you know, the woman's perspective. And so I do think I have a good mindset of, you know, understanding what the women have to go through in a divorce and seeing that from my mom's perspective.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Now, has your mom moved on?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So she has moved on completely. Thankfully. She is. She was always a stay at home mom, and in the divorce, she got one of my dad's businesses that was a fairly successful company. I mean, it was. It was a decent company.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
And she's 10x'd it. So we got to see this stay at home mom turn into this crazy successful business person and. And could not be more proud of her.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That's amazing. Good for her. That's like the best f you.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Honestly, she's done well.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That is awesome. I love that. So is she heavily in the show?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Season one, she didn't want to film at all. So she is a very private, introverted person that just wants to focus on her family. So reality TV was the last thing she ever wanted to do. Season one wasn't on it. Season two, we knew about my dad's situation, so we knew he wasn't gonna film. That was such a major part of season one that losing someone with that personality.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Like, we had to figure out a way to, to have someone new enter the cast or, you know, to make up for that lack of personality. And so I was working on my mom. The minute we found out that my dad was going through that, I was like, hey, if we get a season two, like, I'm gonna need you to, to come on here and help us out. And she was like, no, I'm not doing it. Well, then I seen this comment on Facebook where someone had seen a picture of Galena, Russian number one, and was like, oh, is that the boy's stepmom? And so I screenshotted it and I was like, I'm gonna use a. It's a little manipulative.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Manipulative.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
A little bit. But I screenshotted it and I sent it to my mom and I said, look, they don't even know, like, how close of a relationship we have. And from that day, my mom was like, oh, I'm coming on.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That's awesome. So you knew how to work her.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah, I knew how to work that a little bit. Get her fired up.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That is hilarious. Oh, my. So have you seen an influx in business since doing the show?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes, absolutely. It's been good for our direct to consumer brands. It's been good for our merch, our apparel. We send out meat boxes nationwide. It's done very good for that. I'd say that if you look at the net positives versus the net negatives, we're still probably a little under break even overall from the headache of having a show. There are some cons that come with exposure to obviously my whole dad's situation. Yeah. But I think as we get further and further into seasons, that will start to trend more towards all net positives.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
For sure. Yeah. Well, especially whenever I think you just have to get past Tuesday.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Get past Tuesday and then you can kind of start your rebuilding correct phase of it all.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes. Yeah. We've taken such a reputational hit and candidly, some of it, rightfully so, some of the situations and scenes that we've put out there being no filter, we put out all of our flaws and some of the bad things. And so some of the reputational hits are valid. But I think we get past Tuesday and it's like, hey, it's rebuilding time. Like it's time to the comeback's gonna be for real.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And I say, luckily, I've been doing this since I was 15 years old, so I know how to turn it on, turn it off, what's acceptable, what's not. And I think after now doing these two seasons, you're gonna learn to have a little bit more of a filter where, you know, you need to have one and Correct.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
We're learning that. Yeah. We relate to. Learn that. Yes. If you ask my brother Cole, we were talking about it before we got on this podcast. Whenever season one came around and he was at a bar making out with a 50 year old mom was probably not the time to showcase it all like that. Yeah. You know, you would think that having five or six cameras on you, an audio crew sitting there listening to every word you're saying and watching everything you do, that would not be. Be the time to blackout and make out with a random stranger at a bar.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah. But, you know, so who would you say is like, the fan favorite and kind of the fan, like, villain.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So fan favorite. It's got to be my brother Cole. So Cole has done really character arc, and this is true to real life, to what he's showing on. On the show is very true to story. You know, season one, party animal, like, just an idiot, but so much fun. He's got a great heart. Just a. You know, he's the life of every party. You know, him and his girlfriend really came on strong at the end of season one. They've been on and off for six or seven years now. They're doing great. They just had a baby 10 months ago, and it's looking like they're going to be engaged soon. And Cole's become this great dad, so he's really come full circle, that's all.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Everyone loves a good comeback story.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yes, everyone loves that. A good one. Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And what have you. What is in the storyline for you this season?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
For me, personally?
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Well, since I'm single, I'm sure we're gonna have fun of me trying to attempt to date and see how that goes.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Are you on any dating apps?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I am not, so don't lie. I swear I'm not. And here's why I was on them. But I would have people, and it's not embarrassing to be on a dating app, so I really don't know.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
I mean, I was on Raya for.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
A little while, but they still haven't accepted me.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Oh, that must suck.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I. Exactly. So, yeah, I'm out there on Bumble and Tinder again. Not that anything's wrong with it, but you don't expect to log in and see, you know, reality TV person on your nearest Bumble search.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
It's like.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So I had it on for about a week and a half. I got really lonely at the farm, and I was like, I'm gonna fire this back up. So I created my account, and then I'd get on Instagram and I'd have DMS of screenshots of my. My Bumble or my hinge account, and they'd be like, is this really you on here? I was like, you know what? This is kind of embarrassing.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
This is embarrassing. I'm not. I mean, what.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So I'd message him back like, no, that's. It's a fake account.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Is there not, like, a Farmer's Only?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I. I don't think Farmers Only has gone mainstream yet. So the. The pool on Farmers Only, it's.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
It's probably not great.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
It's not the greatest.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Not the greatest.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay, well, we're gonna hope for Uriah acceptance.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Please accept. Accept me, please.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
He's desperate. Yeah, trust me, it's not that great.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Dang it.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
I know. They just started letting anyone in.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Apparently not, because I'm not on there.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
It's a bad sign.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
They don't let. Yeah, exactly. If they're letting anyone in and I still can't get accepted.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And I still can't get accepted. That is hilarious.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Oh, my gosh. What about, like, the next Bachelor?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I mean, I'd be up for it.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Oh, God. Of course you.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
What is that supposed to mean?
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Of course you would. Of course you would. The little mama's boy wanting all the attention from.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I'm an attention whore. I don't. Yeah, I. I have no problem admitting that.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
This is why. Okay. I love you. This is. This is great. Oh, my God. Okay, so your dream show. What would it be like? Dream?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Actually, it'd be alone. You know, where they just drop you off in the middle of nowhere and you have to try and survive in that Survivor. No, that's where you're with a bunch of people. I feel like alone is the one where they literally drop you by yourself off with a bunch of cameras and you're just out there and you have to try and beat people. Like, there's people that they drop off in the same hundred mile stretch, but you see who can last the longest. That'd be my dream.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
That. Do you really think you could last?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Okay, I know I. I know I look kind of like a. You know, like I don't know how to. To survive in the wilderness, but I'm a little bit of a redneck and I love to hunt and fish. So before we did reality tv, my brothers and I actually had a hunting show. And so we'd go to Alaska, be dropped off in a tent for 15 days at a time and hunt out there.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay. No.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Okay.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
I have to tell you something really funny.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Let's hear it.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So, my brother's girlfriend, they're from Texas. They've got a ranch that's 5,000 acres. And I was saying you were coming on my podcast, so we're scrolling through.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Don't tell me I've sent her a DM or something.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
She zooms in to your cowboy hat and she starts laughing and she goes, he is definitely not a cowboy because of the shape.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Isn't it? I knew it. Yep. I knew it.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So what does that mean?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So the way, like, she said, ask him the brand. So it's a Resist doll.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yep. So I've got Resist all and Stetson's, But a lot of true cowboys like the way that they shape everything on the hat. Like, you can tell someone that actually rides a horse every day and is true cowboy.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah, that's what she said.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I don't ride a horse every day. No. We're more farmers and ranchers. And the cowboy hat is a fashion piece.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
The fact that she pointed that out. I died. Died laughing. I was like, the fact that you even know this is hilarious. Like, hilarious.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Called me out on it.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Yeah, she did.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I almost wore my cowboy hat today.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Did you?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
No. I'm glad I didn't now, look, because she called me out.
Podcast Co-host or Sponsor Announcer
Oh, yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
We. I would have taken a picture and text it to her. 100. All right, so where can people. Do we know first off when the next season's gonna air?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
No idea.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
No idea.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah. Not real sure how many episodes. Actually, I don't know that either.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So do you know anything?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
No, I just show up and just. I'm just there.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I just show up.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Pretty obvious.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Whatever.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Okay. Well, I'm glad you showed up here today.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Yeah. Yeah.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So where can people find you?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So they can find me on Instagram, mostly at. @ Stephen McBee. You will not find me on any dating apps.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
So if you see y', all, if you see his face on a dating app, it's either not him or he just sat here and lied to me.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
I'm not on them right now. I can. I can say that, like, absolutely.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
As of October 6th, he is not on them. That could change.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Change, like, in the next 24 hours. It depends on the night. Like, if I'm super lonely, I'm like, hey, I'm fire back up.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Oh, my God.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Instagram right now at Stephen McBee.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
And where can they find, like, your direct to consumer products, like your boxes and all of that?
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
So all that is oncbeefarms is our Instagram or mcbfarms.com. we sell all of our merch farm apparel and meat boxes as well.
Podcast Host (Interviewer)
Awesome. Well, thank you so much. This was so fun. I actually enjoyed this one.
Stephen McBee Jr. (Podcast Guest)
Well, thank you. I was. I knew coming to this, we'd have a good time, but thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Episode: Behind the Dynasty (feat. Steven McBee Jr.)
Air Date: November 11, 2025
Podcast: Unlocked with Savannah Chrisley
Guest: Steven McBee Jr. (star of McBee Dynasty)
This episode offers a candid and entertaining look behind the scenes of the McBee Dynasty reality show and into the personal life and challenges of Steven McBee Jr. With Savannah Chrisley as a compassionate and playful host, the conversation dives deep into family drama, public scrutiny, dating woes, and the weight of legal troubles facing Steven’s family. Both Steven and Savannah share wisdom gained through lived experience with federal investigations, public perception, and resilience in the face of adversity.
“We said, ‘Hey, we're not gonna hold anything back.’ ...We have some regrettable scenes...”
— Steven McBee Jr. (04:13)
“She went up to our farm and destroyed Russian number two's car using a hammer.”
— Steven McBee Jr. recounting family drama (07:23)
“Don’t vent to family.”
— Steven McBee Jr. on relationship lessons (15:02)
“It is like a black cloud over your head.”
— Steven McBee Jr. on living under legal scrutiny (22:03)
“My mom is probably the greatest person to ever walk the earth, literally, besides Jesus. She may be number two.”
— Steven McBee Jr. (30:38)
“We're more farmers and ranchers, and the cowboy hat is a fashion piece.”
— Steven McBee Jr. (39:43)
The episode delivers a blend of vulnerability, humor, and down-to-earth honesty, typical of Savannah’s “no topic off-limits” ethos. Both she and Steven mix self-deprecating jokes with raw insight, offering genuine guidance for anyone navigating public family drama or personal relationships.
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