← Unlocked with Savannah Chrisley
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Welcome back to this week's episode of Unlocked. I am super excited to have Julia Cole on. Welcome.
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So happy to be here.
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Country music artist. So Julia and I, we've, like, it's funny. We always run into each other.
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We're. We're way overdue for this.
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We are. We are definitely overdue because we always run into each other, whether it's like, I don't know, at a bar, at a restaurant, wherever, and 2 billion mutual friends. Like, it's insane. That is Nashville for you. It is crazy. But now I'm going to be living, like, right down the street from you, so neighbors. I know. Hey, I. That's what I'm excited about is, like, moving from the suburbs to, like, back down here to where I can hang out with people, have a workout partner, go do something. Like, want to go get a drink? Want to. I just.
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And we were talking about this a little bit before, but I'm like, you. Or if I'm. If I'm too far away from town, I will not come to anything.
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Like, I will stay home, and I.
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Would rather watch Netflix instead of. My God.
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Exactly. You know how girls be like, all right, well, let's go home and change. And I'm like, what do you mean if I go home and change the pajamas? Yeah. Like, I'm not coming back. I'm putting on my pajamas, and I am not coming back. I am not that friend that's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to go home and change and get all ready and then come back.
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No, but when I'm out, I'm out. Catch me. Like, I'm not going home. But if you. Yeah, no, I get it.
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That is me. If I'm out, I'm out. But it takes a lot to get me there.
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Yeah.
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So, okay, so your. Your music career has been very interesting.
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Very.
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Because it's not the traditional path that everyone's taken. So can you. Where did you start?
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I have the weirdest, like, entrance into the music industry of all time. Did not do it on purpose. I played sports my entire life. I started getting asked to do national anthems for my own volleyball and basketball games, and it started out as a duet with my sister, and she and I played basketball together. She was older than me, and so what ended up happening was after she graduated, they were like, do you want to keep doing them or not? You know, like, because it's not scary when you're doing it with someone else.
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Yeah.
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But, like, do you want to do this song by yourself now? And I was like, that's kind of a fun party trick. Like, I'll just keep doing it. It's fun. Like, we love America.
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Exactly.
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Rock on. So I was like, all right, let's do it. And then my volleyball coach was like, you should send a video into the Texans. And, you know, before I know it, I'm singing in front of 75,000 people with jets flying over. And I wasn't even nervous. That's what was weird about it. Everyone else was freaking out. Like, afterwards, I remember my family being like, oh, I almost threw up. Like, I was so nervous. And I was like, why? You know.
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Yeah.
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I was like, okay, there's something here. I don't know really what it is. Now here's where I feel like it's all kind of a God thing. I was already going to Vanderbilt. Vandy's the only school I applied to. I didn't know about Music Row. Didn't know anything about.
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That's casual Vanderbilt, the only school I ever applied to.
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And I just fell in love with it. My older sister. So both of my sisters went to Duke, And I. Dear God.
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So your parents, like, bred geniuses.
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We're nerds. We love math and science and. I don't know. So we were just like, okay, we're, like, going to school for academics. That was, like, the thing my parents were the most strict about growing up was you can't do anything unless your grades are up. And then, you know, sports was kind of what we all loved and wanted to do more, but we weren't. You couldn't play if your grades weren't up. So we were always like, honestly, we were competitive internally as sisters, all three of us, like, oh, they made all A's. Like, I gotta make all A's. So I don't know. We just. It was kind of a fun competition. And so that's kind of my upbringing. And then. Yeah. So Vanderbilt, my dorm freshman year, was on Music Row.
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Wow.
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And I.
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That is a God thing.
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Isn't that crazy? And I. Vanderbilt has all of these same panels and stuff that Belmont has, where producers and, you know, agents and managers will come and talk to the students and just tell them about the music industry. The difference is no one at Vanderbilt's trying to be a musician.
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No.
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So, like, there's no line at the end. So I just got to meet all these people, like, one by one and, like, talk to them as long as I wanted. Whereas if I was at a different music school.
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If you were at Belmont, 200 people.
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Would have been lined up to meet them, you know. So I ended up kind of getting introduced that way. And the craziest part is I wanted to be creative writing major. And the reason I loved Vanderbilt so much was cause the girl who gave my sister the tour of walking through campus. When I was a freshman in high school, I was drug on my older sister's college, you know, campus visits for my spring break. I was pissed. Anyway, we ended up. This was the last school we toured. And the tour guide was a creative writing major. And I wrote a book in High School, 500 page novel. I thought I was gonna be an author. That's what I thought I was gonna do. I was like, wrote a book, won poetry contest and thought I was gonna be a writer one day. And the creative writing program at Vanderbilt is incredible. So I thought that's what I was gonna do. I ended up discovering the music industry through these national anthems. And you know, some of the folks who ended up coming to Vandy and speaking on panels. And then there were. There's a couple, Chuck Cannon and Laurie White. They are the ones who I think truly, once I met them, it was like, game over. Like, I'm in. This is what I'm doing. And I actually met Chuck in my hometown. Where I'm from, it's like north Houston. I'm from Spring.
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Okay.
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He was performing at a venue called Do Si Do. And I had won this like karaoke singing contest or whatever called Woodlands Idol. And one of the judges, you know, knew this music venue, knew Chuck, and was like, y' all should meet. Anyway, Chuck connected me with his wife Laurie, and they live here in Nashville. Laurie passed away a few years ago, but they were my, like, Nashville parents. Showed me the ropes, introduced me to everyone. Chuck wrote how do youo Like Me Now? Love the Way youy Love Me, American Soldier Million BMI Awards. Iconic songs. Laurie produced, Toby Keith produced, Shawn Mullins, had three top 20 singles as an artist. She's the lead in Johnny Cash, Ring of Fire on Broadway, and in Tom Hanks Castaway. The actress at the end, like, the hot girl that he's like, oh, this changed my life. At the very, very end of the movie. That's Laurie White.
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No way.
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So they were, you know, just incredible influences and taught me how to truly love what you do, value other people around you. I remember Laurie would always say, like, my definition of success is being able to do what I love with people that I love. And I've always just kind of tried to follow that. And it's probably why everything I'VE done has been so atypical. Yeah.
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Literally. Well, that's the thing. It's. You see so many people maybe doing what they love and then end up hating what they loved.
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Yeah.
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And that's where you don't want to get to. I feel like I have so many friends who are artists that it's like they loved it. That's what got them to where they're at. And then once they're doing it, it's kind of, do I love this anymore or am I doing it for the money?
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You have to figure out your why. And I think anyone who's studied entrepreneurship or studied branding or your purpose or. There's so many different avenues where you eventually get to that question, but it's what is your why? Like, if you can figure that out and you have this purpose, it'll change your thought process on every angle of how you're getting to your goals.
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Yes.
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It's no longer about the money or about your connections or any of that. It's Is my why getting fulfilled 100%.
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So when you went through this process, how did. What was the first song you put out? What?
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Oh, God.
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Like, how did you start gaining the momentum to have, what, half a million followers on Instagram and over a million followers on TikTok? Like, how did you get there?
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I.
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Because I would say, like, when I first noticed you was when you were like, musically was when you were going through your breakup, when you called off your engagement. Because, like, I was going through the same thing at the same time. And I was like, I love this song. Goes to it over and over and over again.
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You know, that. That album, that project it, for multiple reasons, changed my life and changed my. My Cole team fan base forever. Because it was the first time that I was truly vulnerable. And it was kind of like all of these puzzle pieces were falling into place of. I had been working so hard on figuring out marketing and like this dumb.
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Stuff, trying to follow what everyone else was doing.
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Well, more just focused on the business side so much more than the art. And if you make good art, you don't have to do anything. It carries itself everywhere. And you can't understand that until you have seen art do it.
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Yeah.
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But I remember I put out a song about a different breakup. It was the first song I ever had go viral. It's called side Piece. And it's funny, but it's very clever lyrics. And it's about being cheated on. Cause the relationship before my ex fiance, that relationship ended with basically my boyfriend of Almost four years hooking up with my best friend.
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No.
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And so it was the first.
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What do you do in a moment like that?
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This is like, so. Yeah, I know.
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I know.
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It's. It's loaded. It's a lot. And honestly, that I think would have impacted me a lot harder if it hadn't happened at the exact same time that Laurie White I was telling you about, had passed away.
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Yeah.
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But because I was dealing with real loss, like something that truly was life changing and devastating, I was like, I don't even have time for y'. All. Like, don't talk to me. That was more of. It was crazy. I didn't have them to lean on in that scenario. But I'm super close with my family, so I was just like, y', all, I don't have time to deal with this right now emotionally. And I probably didn't unpack it for a long time because I was just so devastated about losing Laurie.
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Well, like you said, that's a real loss.
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A real loss where you question, like, your. You question everything, like, what's the point? You know? Like, that was where my head was. Life is so short. She had worked so hard as a beautiful family, so kind, healthy, loving, all of this. And I was like, why? What's the point? You know? Anyway, it took me probably a year at least to, like, get out of that just rut of, like, not understanding what any of us are doing on this floating rock and then being able to realize, you know, the relationships you have, the love you have with people is the why.
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So did you. Did you end up becoming friends with your friend again, or.
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No, no, I. That was a very. I. It's kind of easy for me to cold turkey, like, cut off.
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I love it.
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If I don't trust you anymore, it's.
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Why should you be in my life?
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I don't waste my time.
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Yeah. That's what we were talking about before you came on. So I was like, have you heard from your, like, ex fiance? You're like, nope, blocked him and cut him off cold turkey. Like, that is not a great ability of mine. I just let people continue, continue, like, on and on, on. And then when I'm done, I'm done. But it takes a lot to get me there. I wish I could do the cold turkey thing.
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I think I hold on for a long time as well. But I do it from a standpoint of like, oh, we haven't broken up yet. You know, like, I'll keep it going for way longer than it probably should have gone. On until something so bad happens that I'm able to cold turkey. But it's like there are so many red flags where I should have cut something off a year or two years earlier than I did. But I've pretty much just had two back to back four year relationships. You know, like, that's a long time.
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Was a series of songs that I wrote because I couldn't write about anything else. It was the first time that there was truly a breakup so already public. I mean our engagement was announced in People magazine. Yeah, like it was already so public. There had been an engagement party. Luckily there wasn't like a wedding planned yet or anything like that. But it was, it was already so public that I was like I have to say something eventually.
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And, and also you had to say it in your way because I know some people like have different feelings about artists making albums about their breakups or whatever and how it's kind of publicizing this, that, whatever. But I'm like, you know, what you're getting into when you got into the relationship. And also, it's not fair for you guys to have to hold. Like, your artistic ability comes from your feelings and emotions. So it's not fair for you guys to have to hold that back and not do your job effectively.
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And people have no idea how much I did hold back. I was kind of. All I did was. I mean, I told the surface level facts and then just talked about my feelings. I didn't go deep into all the things I could have about everything that happened. It was. It was definitely. There are some songs that I probably won't ever put out that are a lot harsher, but, like, you know when you're in a writing room with your closest friends and you're writing these songs? I mean, for. For about six months after the breakup, no one on social media knew that I was even broken up.
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That's the hardest part.
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But I was going into these writing rooms, and I was, you know, slowly telling some of my friends and just, like, breaking the news to these different people, because there were a lot of people who I wanted to be able to talk to in person about it that I'm close friends with.
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Yeah.
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That I don't see all of the time. And I didn't want to just sit down and call a bunch of people. I'm like, that's weird.
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Yeah.
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So I gave myself a very long window to, like, process everything, decide how I wanted to handle it, you know, how much am I comfortable saying?
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And how old were you at this time?
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27.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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So. And that's the hard part, because. Do you feel like. Because, like, that's kind of where I'm at in my life. Like, all your friends are getting married, having kids, and you're over here like, hi.
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Like, I really have a bizarre life, though. I'm not in a hurry for any of that. Like, I. My family is the most important thing in the world to me, so I want my own family.
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Yes.
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But I'm just not in a hurry for it. I've met so many incredible women who've started having families in their late 30s.
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Yep.
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And I'm like, oh, yeah. Oh, hell yeah.
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More time.
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Like, I am totally down with building a life that I'm gonna be able to bring kids into that is comfortable for them. And, like, I know who I am.
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And what I'm doing, and healthy, happy, whole, all the things.
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And it's. Everyone figures out what's best for them. Some People have families really young. And it's beautiful, you know, My older sister already has a baby, so I kinda. I have a little godson who's perfect. My little sister just got a puppy, so I have a niece. My older sister also has a dog. We've got, you know, pa, niece and nephew, and a real little godson. And I just. I feel like right now I'm connecting with so many millions of people and serving a purpose that I'm like, just not in a hurry to rush other things. I trust in God's timing.
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Yeah. So with your music, what would you say you have heard has been the biggest impact?
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Well, when that album started dropping, I basically put one song a month out for a year. And there are two reasons why I think this record started to really connect with people. Was one, the truth and raw emotion of it and it being truly step by step. Each song was a piece in the story. So you're gonna listen to the next one and heal together. It was like, slowly but surely I started to get all these messages and people saying, I went through the same thing and I'm healing also. Or I went through the same thing five years ago and now I'm with the love of my life, like, you're gonna be fine.
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Yes.
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So one, it started this community, this, like, sisterhood of all of these women supporting each other and connecting with each other and just talking about. Oh, I've never heard a song about calling off an engagement. Everyone talks about divorces everyone talks about but this. And I thought for a while, like, maybe this is too niche. Like, whatever. I'm putting these out because this is just. This is so raw to, you know, what I am feeling at all moments right now that I can't pretend to be singing something else right now. Like, while I'm on stage, if I look sad, it's probably cause I am, you know?
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Exactly.
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And that's okay. And I'm gonna tell you why. And you're gonna be able to maybe see me over the next six months, get the light back in my eyes. And I think that that it just happened together with these people. The other reason this project did better is because, like you mentioned earlier, I've done everything a bizarre way, completely independent artist, funded everything myself. So my first album, I put out of all these other songs that had like the one I talked about earlier, side piece and all that. Those songs were done for like, no money. They were just basically demos.
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Yeah.
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As those songs started to get streams, I was able to afford this album. Those songs paid for me to have the best mixing engineer, the best mastering engineer, the best producer working on it and cutting the vocals in the best vocal studio and hiring out the best band to play all together at the same time in the studio. And vibe off of each other. Yeah, because they get creative together. I mean, it changes the gel of the song. And so I was finally able to produce a record in my dream way that also had a huge impact. The sonic quality and the lyrical quality, everything was just level.
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What was something you could. I know. Listening to it. Just something that you're like, all right, I'm not alone. Like, I. Someone else feels this way, too. This is therapeutic. I wish I could write a song like this about my ex and tell him to go F himself. That would be great, but I can't, so I. I'm gonna listen to yours.
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You know, like, I think it was probably. So the first song of that whole series is called this Ring, and it's about deciding whether or not to take off the ring. And, you know the hook. The chorus starts, what if when I leave, you become the man I need?
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I heard that. And I'm like, that is the toughest pill to swallow.
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And you're so scared of that. And you're almost always going to be scared of that, you know? Like, I have a friend who broke up with a guy she was with for, like, six years, and she's still, like, he's been dating someone else. I wonder if he's better for her. And I'm like, he's not. I promise you, he's not.
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You know, that's tough, though. Like, I always like to joke and say, I get men ready for their forever homes, you know? Like, it seems like, all right, you finished me. That's so funny.
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Oh, my God.
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Because, like, that is. It's such a big fear. And then it, like, makes you question yourself of, well, why wasn't I worthy of this treatment?
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Well, I think if you. If you saw behind closed doors of whatever's going on, it's probably not much better. It's just someone's okay with the things you weren't okay with. I don't know. I just.
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That is so true.
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And different people need different things, you know? Like, I might not give someone the constant attention that they need that another girl might be giving them. Yeah, but, like, I'm on tour, I'm making money. I just. And I don't also need that. Like, I don't need constant whatever. So it's like, there is someone who does, and I just Think like other people will be more compatible, but it doesn't mean it was right for you.
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So where are you at in your like, healing journey since your breakup? How long ago was that?
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It's been almost two years.
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Okay, and where are you at now?
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I am trying to think of a graceful way to say this. He has kind of confirmed every red flag. Like, what's a nice way of saying that he knocked someone up immediately? Oh, like he got someone pregnant. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if there's like a nicer way of saying it because I don't blame her or whatever. I hope she's having an amazing life and whatever, but it's just crazy to just to know that I dodged a.
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Bullet without a doubt. Yeah, I would be irate.
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I honestly am not upset. Part of me is hoping that having this responsibility, this new life, you know, unconditional love from a kid maybe is gonna just like brighten everything in both of their worlds and everything is gonna be fine. Cause I really, ever since it's ended, obviously I went through a lot of healing. It was heartbreak and then healing, but life wise, everything's gotten better for me. There's just so much peace now in my life that.
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And you cannot buy peace.
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You cannot buy peace. Honestly, I think what's gonna be the hardest part about me getting into another relationship is being willing to let someone else potentially mess up my peace. But that's part of trusting someone else and letting them be in your life.
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Well, and like, it's like trust. Trust is earned. It's not given. So it's. People have to earn that. Yeah, they have to earn that spot.
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And I've heard that a lot of people in love, they don't ruin each other's peace. And you might argue about things, but.
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Overall you're not gonna make everyday life a living hell.
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Exactly. Yes. It was to a point where I was like every single day.
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What?
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Miserable.
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What's it gonna be now?
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What's it, what is wrong today?
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Yeah.
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And that went on for probably the whole last year. Yeah.
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So where have you tried dating?
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Yeah, I have.
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Isn't it so bad?
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You know what? I truly have met some incredible people. I've met some incredible people. I have a lot of faith that there's going to be like the person who I'm like, oh, this is it. This is it.
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Oh, 100%.
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But I, I've met a lot of incredible people who.
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I honestly, the people I've actually met, like, genuinely have been great.
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I'VE also met a lot of annoying people.
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This dating app thing is terrible. I got off of it. I was like, oh, my God.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, you totally lied on your profile. And then we met in person, and, like, it's a whole different story.
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How about when you meet there's someone on. Of. Whatever. Raya or something in your date. Yes.
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That was when I was on.
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You're meeting people. Whatever. How about the person who's been talking to you for a couple of months, and then a different country artist hard launches them on Instagram, and you're like, wow, you really just wanted a country artist. Like, you probably DM'd every country artist on the market that wasn't married.
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Yeah.
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Now, so I'm with you. I think the apps are. You know, I've heard of a lot of people getting married off of Hinge.
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Yeah.
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But I. I tried to, like, start that account. And I'm telling you, within 24 hours, my tour manager got, like, three screenshots from different people being like, why is she on Hinge? So I'm like, okay, so I can't be on there. I guess I'm not allowed. People think it's weird. I'm just gonna get made fun of.
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So you know what? We're good. Organically. Organically, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. But.
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B
And in God's timing. Cause I'm truly too busy right now to be, like, giving someone a huge chunk of my time. And I do think I'm gonna enter into an era of dating now that's a little bit healthier for me, because the last six months, I had about 100 meetings that were all, like, dates. Cause when you're meeting a new attorney, a new manager, meeting with labels, meeting with publishers, meeting with agents, they're all like, dates. Because you're meeting someone, talking about their family and where they're from and what's their passion and how'd they get to Nashville? And, I mean, I was going on 10 of these a day for six months to build my team.
- [27:24]
A
You're gonna do this anymore?
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B
I didn't have. My tank was empty.
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A
Yes.
- [27:28]
B
I didn't have the emotional, like, depth to then go on a date that night. I was like, I can't remember all y' all's cousins names. You know, you've all got dogs. You've all like, I can't keep it straight.
- [27:40]
A
I'm dying.
- [27:41]
B
So I think now that my team is fully kind of built out, and the next month, there's gonna Be. I've got a bunch of different announcements that are gonna happen in the next month of stuff. I mean, of the hundred meetings, first I had, you know, all these different attorney meetings because you need them for all your other deals.
- [27:56]
A
Oh, yes.
- [27:57]
B
So Nick Ferrara is my guy. Love him to pieces. He is the best on the planet. And then I started talking to a ton of different managers and I kind of soft dated with a couple different management companies and absolutely fell in love with Martha Earls and Neon coast and Jess there.
- [28:17]
A
I mean, Martha, Martha.
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B
She does Kane Brown.
- [28:21]
A
Yes. Yes. I love Martha. I love Martha and I love that.
- [28:24]
B
It'S just this female, like, powerhouse.
- [28:29]
A
Yep.
- [28:30]
B
Energy. And I just. It feels so good. So I found. Found this team that they like that I've done things the atypical way they're here to support it and then bridge the gap and bring me into, you know, the actual music industry. Because I've been kind of just doing everything via just social media. And then the reason I started doing all these meetings this year was I took a step back and I was like, okay, if I want to be playing in stadiums, because my. Why, What I've learned from this album that I've. That we've talked about. I need people to hear these songs because they can't impact someone's life if no one hears them. Yeah. And all I can do is give the person an opportunity to hear it. I don't care if they like it or not. That doesn't matter. If they don't like it, Toss it doesn't matter. But if. If people don't even have a chance of hearing it the first time, it can't affect anyone's life. So I'm like, okay, now my job is to get this. These songs out to people. How do I write these songs and get them? And I was like, okay, who's doing that the best? Probably artists playing in stadiums, because that means this many 40,000 people were moved enough by this music to buy a ticket and come to this venue because they want to see you sing it. They want to sing it with you in person. Every single one of these artists has a team. I probably need to build a team.
- [29:54]
A
I probably build. Look at what you have done.
- [29:56]
B
Probably need to invite some folks on the team.
- [29:59]
A
But look at what you've done. It's absolutely insane. Like over What, a million TikTok followers? Like, stuff like that. And your videos and your music and the fact that you've done this without a team. There are people with a team that don't Even have what you have. Like, that's the insane part that I think. I don't know, it may be hard for you to sit back and actually look over yourself, but that's insane. You should be so proud of yourself.
- [30:29]
B
I am really thankful. I really am. I don't take a single follower for granted because I wouldn't have a job if they didn't organically follow and share and interact and love the music. And it's never been a trend that went viral for me or something like that. It's always been a song, every single video. And it means that it's harder for me to just recreate it. Like, people who are just. They do trends or have a shtick, they can go viral for whatever. That's never been it for me, but when I have a song that people connect to, it's like they just want to send it to their friends and their families or whatever. I've got a song called Daddy Daughter Dance that it's gone super viral that a lot of people have used for their weddings and their. Their parents, you know, their dad's funerals or whatever. And I'm like, it's impacted the happiest moments and the saddest moments and just been something that people lean on. And then I have a song called Daylight in a buck short.
- [31:26]
A
It's got like 200 million, so I love it.
- [31:28]
B
Views like, freaking insane. It's on the Hot 30 countdown on Curious.
- [31:32]
A
By yourself that you have done by yourself, which is insane.
- [31:35]
B
It's the only independent artist song on hot country on Spotify.
- [31:38]
A
That is crazy. So what. What's next with you and this team that you now have?
- [31:44]
B
You know, I signed a distribution deal. We're gonna go to radio. Way to go Broke records. We're picking a Nashville radio team. And I'm signed with Wasserman now. They're my agents. Matt Runner over there is awesome. Within the first two weeks of being there, I'm gonna play Stagecoach in 2026, I'm booked on a big Australian tour. It's four festival dates with, like, Jelly Roll and Shaboozi doing all the C2C dates in Europe. So I'm doing C2C. London, Glasgow, Berlin, Rottenberg.
- [32:19]
A
Like, that is. That literally gives me, like, chills. I'm like, that is.
- [32:23]
B
And all over America too. But, you know, my brain goes like, where am I traveling?
- [32:27]
A
You know, where am I girl? You know, girl brain. Oh, my God. I get to travel. This is great. We're going shopping. I get to travel and get paid What?
- [32:34]
B
Yeah, one. Meet the fans over there, too. Like, meeting the Cole team, the sisterhood. Like, all these folks that I just could not be more thankful for and getting to meet them in person. So cool. I still can't believe that they want to wait in line in a meet and greet. Are you going to go to your. Are you going to go to the meet and greet table after? And I'm like, of course I am. I can't believe y' all want to wait in line for this. Wild.
- [32:56]
A
Yes. Well, what was so crazy? I will never forget, like, when the. Our TV show started getting big and, like, people would come up and ask for a picture, and I'm just. I would have to stop myself. I remember one time I was like, how do they know who I am? And then it's like, wait, okay, that's stupid. But you. It's so hard for you to grasp at that time.
- [33:14]
B
Well. And if you didn't ever do it on a small scale, you don't understand how crazy it is. Yeah, but I've played so many shows where nobody cared that now it's like night and day. I mean, they're screaming every word to every song. And I'm watching people cry and hug each other and, like, use these songs for their weddings or whatever, and I'm.
- [33:36]
A
Like, for their own healing.
- [33:37]
B
Oh, my gosh. Like, this is everything I could have ever dreamed of.
- [33:42]
A
I love that it couldn't have happened to a better person.
- [33:45]
B
I will say that we're sisters now. I feel like we're gonna. Hey, we're gonna have such a such a fantastic wine night. Talking about our breakups. Oh, my gosh.
- [33:54]
A
Yes. I can give you so much inspiration for music with legit show of a life.
- [33:58]
B
You want me to write you some songs about it? I'm here.
- [34:01]
A
I love you. Okay. Where can people find you?
- [34:04]
B
I am everywhere.
- [34:06]
A
Everywhere.
- [34:07]
B
Yeah, my website has all my tour dates, so it's juliacoolmusic.com and then I respond to all my DMs on Instagram. Juliacool music, obviously, I'm on TikTok, YouTube, Spotify. I've got, you know, a couple million month Delicious on there. So wherever you want. I'm everywhere.
- [34:24]
A
I love it. All right, well, thank you so much.
- [34:26]
B
Love you, girl.
- [34:28]
A
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B
I'm coming in hot.
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A
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