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Welcome back to Unlocked. And I am your host, Chase Chrisley. And I have my beautiful, very kind, very nice sister Savannah. On.
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See, that wasn't so hard, was it?
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Oh, no. Like pulling teeth.
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That's not true. You beg to hang out with me, Savannah.
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You only call me to hang you. You call me whenever you need work done.
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No, that is not true.
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When was the last time you're like, hey, let's just hang out.
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Chase, I've been gone.
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I wasn't gone because I didn't get the invite.
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Well, no, it. Yeah, I mean, you don't get invited everywhere.
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Anywhere.
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No. Whatever this episode, we were planning on doing something different. And Chase interviewing me, I'm just not.
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Okay, are you about to switch it.
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Up on me this week? No, no. I just wasn't sure what your interviewing capabilities were.
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Sven, I'm a natural.
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I love you.
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All right, if you don't want to.
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Do that, we can. No, I do. I do.
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Oh, you want to be interviewed, don't you?
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Yeah, I do. I want to be interviewed.
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Well, I asked people what I should ask you, and one of the questions was, what would you do differently? Like, whenever mom and dad were away, what is something you would have handled differently?
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Oh, something I would have handled differently? I don't really know. No, you really. No, I handled you in the only way that I had, like, the capacity.
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It's not about me.
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You're pointing to you.
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I did not do that. This is about you.
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I don't know if I would have handled anything differently because what I did got me to the outcome that I got to. So granted, I wish I would have had more resources and help and whatever, but everything I did, I got it done. And I went hard as all get out to get the outcome that I got.
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So was. Do you think you made any mistakes, looking back on it, that you would do differently?
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Of course.
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I mean, we all make mistakes every.
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Single day, so I know I definitely made mistakes, but I think I was so tunnel visioned on getting the outcome that we all needed that I didn't have the patience for small petty stuff or stupidity or. And I definitely was like, harsher with.
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No bullshit. Yeah.
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Yeah, I was definitely harsher with people and was like, I don't have time for this. I wish I would have been maybe a little softer. But life has a way of hardening you to where that's. That was the only way for me to survive.
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I think that's. And that's your trauma response.
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Yeah.
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Because you've kind of always been that way, when it comes to, like, when something happens, you just. Yeah, like self preservation mode.
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Yeah, I just. And that's. I think we're different in that. In.
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Oh, yeah, I fell apart.
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No, but I'm just saying that's like, goes to show with trauma responses, with people, how differently people can be because I got so closed off and so hard and, you know, there's definitely things I've said that maybe I wish I wouldn't have said.
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But you can't say that like, that.
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What do you mean?
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Like you can't say there's some things I said I shouldn't have said, whatever. Like. No, you have to, like, own it and move on.
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Yeah.
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I'm not asking you to own anything. I'm just saying.
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No, I know, but I'm just. There's our dinette, not our dynamic, but like family dynamic. And dynamic with just people is very different and complex that it's. There's so many different things. For me, I just wish I would not have been so hard.
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I mean. Yeah, I understand that. Did. Did you think that, like, doing everything you did with Trump and the politics and stuff would lead to where it's like, leading to now?
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Not at all. I mean, that's the thing is people have all these misconceptions about what I've done and the pardons and Trump and I paid for it and this and that, whatever. None of that happened. Like, I worked my butt off, got to where I got to by making my voice heard, educating myself on the topics, showing up at the right place, the right time, doing my research, knowing where politicians dine and hotels they stay at, where they drink at, like, everything I knew and I knew where to show up to and now where it's led and just the people I'm able to help now and fight for them and their truth to be heard. And then working with Turning Point USA and other organizations has been absolutely insane. It's given me a voice and I think it's come at the perfect time because, you know, I accomplished one goal, which was getting mom and dad home. And now I have other things to work towards.
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With mom and dad, obviously you wanted to get them home, but did it feel like kind of like an obligation versus now? Does it. What it. It doesn't. I'm sure it doesn't feel like an obligation, but is it more of a passion?
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For me, it was an I. I felt like it was an obligation for me because I am such a, like, die hard, like, ride or die loyalist for the people I Love that. Like, I will fight for you till the end. So I put it on myself as, like, this obligation of, you must do this, because I couldn't imagine someone I love not doing it for me.
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Yeah.
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So it was. But now I feel like even if something is a passion, it can also feel like an obligation to you. And it should feel like an obligation. Like, if you know better, you do better, and if you don't, then you're failing.
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Yeah.
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Because when you know something's wrong and you have the opportunity to correct it and you don't.
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Mm.
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You're doing yourself a disservice, and you're doing other people a disservice.
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But at what point do you, like, say, like, okay, this is a massive system that is clearly broken. Like, a lot of people would, like, see that and be like, well, I can't fix this because it's just too big.
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Yeah.
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So, like, how do you. Like, how do you deal with that?
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Well, I think it takes. It takes one person. It. And I know that sounds cliche and cheesy, and. But it takes one person to potentially change the world. Like, you just have to stand firm in your convictions and your beliefs and fight. And of course, you want to change the whole system, but sometimes you may not be able to change the whole system. So change it one.
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One step at a time.
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Like, one step at a time. Start with conditions or start with the people in charge. Start with rehabilitation, whatever it may be. Start with one thing and conquer it, and then move on to the next. I think for me, I got so caught up and wanting to see the whole thing changed that it's just not possible when you're dealing with such a huge.
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And I think. I think that you think about, like, you want the whole thing to change, but that's before you really understood and knew.
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Yeah.
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The complexities. Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah. Because, I mean, when you're talking about FBI, doj, bop, all these three letter.
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Agencies, it makes my asshole tighten up every time I hear it.
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I cannot. Yeah, I know. Ptsd. Seriously. But when you hear these three letter agencies, they are so big. Like, government has gotten way too, too big. And we want the government to have less control over our lives. We don't want the government telling us what our kids should be learning or the, you know, vaccines they should be getting, or, like, less government is better. And that's what I think this administration is trying to do is, you know, have less government in certain areas. I know people argue against that. I can understand both arguments, but. But.
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But that says a lot. Because a lot of people can't understand both sides.
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No, no. And that's why.
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And I think a lot of people think that you're just far right ride or die Trump, which we are. But you do have like that you are intelligent enough and compassionate enough to where you can see both sides and where people are coming from.
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Well, thank you. That was a really sweet compliment. See, I'm doing better at acknowledging compliments.
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Savannah just thanked me for a compliment and then complimented herself.
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I think I've always said this, like, everyone's political beliefs are based off their own life experience and things that have happened to them. And when it came to Trump, obviously when our parents went to prison, we saw that they weren't going to serve a full 12 years and a full seven years. They were going to serve probably 60% of that due to the First Step act, which was implemented by Trump. So that impacted our lives personally.
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And it's always, it's always, it will always change the way you look at it when you've got a dog in the fight.
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Yeah, without a doubt. And if more people looked at it that way, I think we would have healthier conversations of like, all right, you believe what you believe, I believe what I believe, we can disagree respectfully and let's go have lunch. Like, there doesn't have to be this hard line in the sand of I can't associate with you or I can't do business with you, I can't be friends with you. That right there just shows a lack of emotional maturity. Maturity and honestly, just a lack of intellect, in my opinion.
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What do you think that you could do to kind of bridge that gap? Because, I mean, you've had, we both have had like friendships that have been straight, like strained or completely have dissolved because of political beliefs.
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I think it gets really hard because it's easy to sit and say, you know, respect each other's political beliefs and differences, but that's easier said than done. Right? Like, and if you only have one person that's willing to listen.
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And another.
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Person that's not, you just, there's no way to move forward in a relationship or a friendship. And I am at a place in my life to where I am not willing to sacrifice my beliefs for someone else. Yeah, I'm just not. Because I know.
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Newsflash.
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Funny, you've really never been that person to do that.
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What? I mean, I've sacrificed a lot of myself for other people, but when it comes to where I'm at in life now, like, I just, I believe what I believe and I'm not out here harming anyone. I'm not out here trying to cause danger or hurt people or like, I have such good intentions with what I feel and my beliefs that I'm not going to allow someone who's on the polar opposite side to make me feel like I'm a bad person.
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What do you, like, how does it make you feel? Like whenever, like these big media outlets like that are clearly left, like, come and attack you and say like just awful things, I think, because I know for me, like, I don't, I really don't care anymore.
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I, I don't care. I honestly think it's laughable because these far left wing media outlets that attack me just go to show what everyone is saying is like, why are you so angry? Like, why are you so hate filled? Why are you so. Let them look like the evil ones because that's what they're spewing. If that's what they want to spew, go ahead. The more they open their mouth, the more you see it. So let them say whatever they want to say. And while they're talking crap about me, my name's in the press and it's boosting my businesses. So I don't care. Yeah, say what you want to say.
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Like with everything that you've learned and you're going and speaking and doing all this and helping a lot of people, do you think in the future could you see yourself, like, running for an office?
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I don't know.
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Or is that like too deep to get in?
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I've, I've toyed with the idea and I have so many supporters around me who are like, if you want to do it, we're behind you. But like, we'll set it up. We'll do packs, this, that, whatever.
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I've never seen, like, a senator or a congresswoman, like with a Birkin, though, I cannot.
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Okay, well, you know, there's a first for everything. There is a verse for everything. I mean, I would definitely be the best dressed.
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Oh, hands down.
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Best dressed for sure. Thank God. We need. It's. It's just so unfortunate to me how some of these politicians go into these congressional hearings and meetings and they look like they just rolled out of bed or they picked up their outfit from the local, like TJ Maxx on the way in. Like, it's. It's crazy to me, but I think they do that. So we don't, you know, they don't draw a eye directly to all their insider trading, which. Smart move on them. But I definitely toyed with the idea. I think we need younger voices in the political realm to soften things a bit and to be more realistic. This isn't the frickin 1900s we're living in anymore. We need younger female conservative voices in the play, too. Because something that I've definitely.
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But that's like, such a commitment. Like, once you're in it. Like, you're in it.
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Yeah, once you're in it, you're in it, and it's hard to get out of it. I've already seen that firsthand and, like, I want to have kids. I want to dedicate my life to that. Like, that will be the best and greatest thing I ever do. So it's going to be trying to figure out how to balance.
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I don't want you to do it. I don't.
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And it's dangerous.
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Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. It's too dangerous. And I don't think it's worth it. I. I know that, like, there needs to be change and like, our country need. Like, it needs it, but someone else needs to do it. I'm not gonna lose myself.
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I love doing the hard things. And especially as a strong, conservative female, like, I went through that point in time to where it was like, oh, I don't know, need a man. I'm fine.
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Like, you were on that run for a while.
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Yeah, I was, but that's because I unfortunately fell to all these narratives that Hollywood was putting out and what a strong woman actually looks like. In reality, those are just the people.
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That couldn't get married.
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I. Yeah, those are just the angry, like, people who are single.
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Yeah.
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And in reality, I do need a man. It is a very fulfilling thing to be able to be soft while there Is an alpha figure to be able to just have that connection.
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Not always be.
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Yeah. Like, not always have to be a hard ass. Because I have to be that way in the political field. I have to be that way in business at times. And so it feels so good to need a man like that that makes a strong woman.
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And there's nothing wrong.
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There's nothing wrong with that. Now, I believe in being a strong woman and working and having your own income and never having to be at the mercy of a man. But you can also be soft while doing it. And I think that's the phase that I'm at in life right now and absolutely love it because there's so much power in being soft. You don't have to be this angry, crazy woman who's anti man. I love you.
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No, but I've. I've seen that change in you, too, because, like, you went. You. That's how you used to be.
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Yeah.
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In, like, the last eight or nine months, like, especially, like, you've definitely, like, made that turn to where, like, it's like, you're more at peace with yourself.
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Oh, without a doubt. I think I'm more at peace than, like, I have ever been, which is such a great feeling. And, like, I love life. Life is great. Life is happy.
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That's what I said to dad yesterday. I was like, I'm. I don't think I've ever been this happy before.
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Yeah, I.
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And I have a. We have a great relationship now. I mean, it could have been so much fun.
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And please tell people, like, we joke with each other hard, but people don't get it. People watch, and they'll be like, you need to stop giving him a hard time. I'm like, guys, do you know what he says to me behind the scenes?
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Needs to stop giving me a hard time.
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Oh, shut up. Yeah. Yeah. I cannot.
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You do say stuff that, like, really does hurt my feelings.
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Dude, you need an Academy Award, dude. Stop trying to ruin me. Like, he's making himself cry. He belongs in a mental hospital.
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I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
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Savannah and I, we we're in the best place I think we ever have been.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And then I go. I come and help you. I come and help Savannah move all of her Christmas stuff to storage, and I got zero help.
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That's not true. I lifted.
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What, your cell phone?
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No, I did help, but you just been working out so much, I just.
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Thought, oh, gas me up.
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I just thought I would let you lift all of it.
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Oh, thank you. Thank you.
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No, the best part of it was I didn't even know because Chase went to my storage unit while I was out of town to grab some more Christmas stuff for the people decorating. And then he helped me take it all back to the storage unit. When we got to the storage unit.
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I didn't even know what her storage unit was.
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I didn't even know my storage unit.
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Let's just go, dude.
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This is how Storage wars became, like, such a big thing.
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Well, I'm gonna buy your storage unit.
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No, I don't have anything good in mine.
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You really don't. You don't have anything that's just for.
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Like, all my junk that I refuse to get rid of. But imagine getting a storage unit that has, like, millions of dollars in cash in it.
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I know someone that did that. They bought a storage unit for 600, and there was 980,000 in it.
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That's wild.
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Yeah.
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Cool. I need to start buying storage units.
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I mean, that rarely ever happens.
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I mean, who knows? I mean, with our luck, it would never happen.
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But our luck has turned around.
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Our luck has turned.
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It is great.
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Yeah, we. I think we got through the bad luck.
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We did. Now we're on the up and up, and I am so excited.
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So, I mean, go on a more serious note. Going back to, like, running for a public office, like, financially, you don't need it, and financially, it pays for shit.
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Yeah. Financially, if you do it the right way, you make no money.
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Yeah. So it would literally just be to make change and help.
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Yeah, it would just be. And that's why it's, like, right now may not be the time for it because I'm. I feel like holding my finances back right now. I started up Good Girl rx, which is a female focused health and wellness company.
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And I'm a good girl, too. I got it.
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I love you. And that's been a major focus for me, and it's doing extremely well. I am starting back my shot today because I have definitely been a little too happy with myself.
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Down.
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Gotta put that fork down. Not drinking anymore. I've just been in, like, a Very happy phase. I've been trying every restaurant in Nashville, and I am now ready to, like, get healthy again and feel and look the best that I've ever felt and looked. And it's all possible with my company, and my whole goal is to sell it in the next three years. And when you go into public office, you have to divest from everything, and.
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You have to stop doing, like, yeah, Savannah, the hell with that. Do not do that.
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Yeah. Like, even your social channels have to be random.
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You would be throwing away so much money. Don't do that.
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I know. So that's why it's like, I need to make my money so that I have fu. Money when I go into public office.
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Well, you said when.
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Well, if. Yeah, I mean, that's why it's in the back of my mind, like, I know I'm eventually going to do it, but, like.
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Okay, so, like, what's your five year plan? Do you want to have kids in those five years?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And I want to sell my business.
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So if you're. But I. You think that once you have kids, you're going to be willing to walk away. Not walk away from them, but, like, you're definitely not going to be able to have as much time with them.
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No, I will, because I would have sold my business for an exorbitant amount of money, and my kids will go with me everywhere I go.
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But.
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And I think it's so important. Yes. And I think it's so important to. To show your children that, like, you can, in fact, do it all. Because there's been such a time with women who feel, like, all right, if I have a kid, my life's over.
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No, I didn't mean that.
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I meant it to be over.
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I meant it like, you're gonna. You're not gonna want to go and do that. Like, I know you and I. You're not gonna want to leave their side.
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Oh, no, I'm not gonna want to leave them. But I would have so much joy and watching them watch me fight for their future and fight for the world that they're going to inherit. And I think that's the coolest part about it, is that everything that we do, it's not for us. It's going to be for our kids, and it's going to be for their kids. And how awesome would it be to show a daughter, like, hey, I can be soft with you and your brother and your dad, and you see roles reversed at home, but then you see me walk into my, you know, a Political room or a corporate room, and you see me take it over. Like, I think it's just so important to show your children that, like, as a powerful, strong woman, that you can do all of it.
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All right. Bass. Dutton.
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Is that really okay? It's fine, Savannah.
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That's pretty damn spot on. Now, you've gotten softer in the last nine months, but back in the day, 100.
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I mean, I do love me some Beth. I love me some Beth.
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So if. Would you wait until your kids got older? A little bit older you. Not when they're baby babies. No, they're not going. We're not.
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I can't lose my steam than I have.
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Yeah. That's another thing. Like, do you think it'll be, like, incredibly, like, more difficult to. If you were to take some time off from that and try to jump back in?
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I think it could be difficult. I also think we only have three years left in this administration, and this administration has been very welcoming to women in the workforce and in the political arena that it would be stupid not to take advantage of that. Also, if a Democrat gets an office next election, I'm not going to be their favorite human in the world.
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Yeah, you'd be cooked like an egg, Savannah.
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So who knows what's going to happen when it comes to that? All I know right now is I am loving building my business and just being a healthier person all around. Physically, emotionally, mentally, all of it. And what would you say.
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What would you attribute it to that has, like. Because, I mean, I was definitely in a bad place, but, I mean, I think. I mean, we all were in a bad place.
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Yeah.
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What do you think has really made, like, giving you that turn to where, like, you're, like, genuinely happy?
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Well, I think I have time to just focus on myself now. Like, before, I had no time to do anything that I needed or wanted to do. So I have time to focus on me. I have time to put, you know, prioritize and just feel fulfilled and have the right people in my life and be loved by the right people.
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And what makes you feel fulfilled?
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What makes me feel fulfilled? Oh.
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Don'T you dare say a Birkin.
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No. A trace. Oh, my God. No. No. What makes me feel fulfilled is honestly just, like, loving the right people and being loved back by the right people is the most fulfilling thing. And having healthy communication and just making a difference in anything that you can do. Like, I don't care what it is, even if it's paying for someone's meal or talking to someone.
A
I. I found out about Savannah, which I like, really do admire. She has these things, they're like little like, doc kits with like, toothbrush. What? Toothbrush. Deodorant.
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Yeah, toothbrush, toothpaste, deodorant, like floss.
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And she'll be driving around and she just gives it out to homeless people. Like she has a bunch of them in her car.
B
Well, also because of course, they want money. Right. And the majority of them are out here doing drugs and looking for the next hit. So I'm sorry, I can't give you money, but I'm gonna give you this.
A
Yeah.
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And sometimes, occasionally they'll get me for a little money. If they have a really unique sign like that.
A
Just depending on their sign, it just gets me.
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But no, I just want to hopefully help contribute to them being better and not contribute to a bad habit.
A
Do you think you could see yourself, like, starting up a foundation?
B
Without a doubt. Yeah. I've already got it in the works.
C
Really?
B
Yeah.
A
What, like, was it going to be focused around?
B
I think I don't want to like, pigeonhole myself in one thing. I say I don't want to pigeon myself in one thing. But it's definitely going to be very justice centered. But in a way of providing Christmases for families who have, like, for kids who have incarcerated parents for helping them, fund them to visit their family. Because most people don't have the funds to go and visit. Yeah. Putting money on commissary accounts, maybe helping with some legal fees and then definitely putting some bills in front of Congress. So to fund legal teams, put those bills in front of Congress to help make a difference.
A
I mean, to help fund like someone's defense.
B
No. Well, to potentially maybe help with a few things like that. But more so have a legal team that are presenting bills to Congress that, you know, one being that women. Obviously Trump has already said women can only be housed with biological women, but women should only be transported with women. I agree. Because that is so detrimental to integrating health that it is absolutely insane. So that, you know, if you are already in federal custody, you should be able to show up to a resentencing hearing via Zoom. It saves taxpayer dollars. It saves you mental, physical and physical anguish. So doing having bills like that, I.
A
Think that they do that though, as an another form of punishment and like they use that as like a get back on. Like they do. No agenda.
B
They do. So it just matters. Does the judge like you or do they not? And we know ours didn't. But doing things like that, I think, like I said, just Making a difference is so big for me.
A
But I mean, you've given a voice to men and women that don't have a voice. Yeah, like thousands of people.
B
Yeah, I think that's been kind of. I know we joke all the time, but it's like hard to kind of accept that from people because they're the ones going through all the hard stuff. Like, I'm not the one. So, yes, I can be a voice for you, but I truly don't know what you're experiencing. But God's put me in a place to have the will that I have, the get up and connections and to just go out here and fight and have the voice. So I'm going to use my voice as best as I possibly can.
A
That you are doing.
B
But I loved this.
A
I know. It's pretty good. All right, last question. Five years. Where do you see yourself in five years?
C
Five years.
B
Oh, God. Married, Two kids.
A
Two.
B
Selling my business for a large. A large sum and then potentially running for something. Public office. Who knows?
A
I love to see it.
B
Well, I love you. You did so good. I like being interviewed.
A
Thank you. Until next time, check out Unlocked.
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Podcast: Unlocked with Savannah Chrisley
Host: Savannah Chrisley (guest), Chase Chrisley (host for the episode)
Date: February 3, 2026
In this refreshingly candid episode, Savannah Chrisley turns over the host seat to her brother Chase for a revealing, often humorous interview. The pair delve into Savannah’s experiences juggling family obligations, public advocacy, political activism, and her personal journey toward softness and fulfillment—while poking fun at family dynamics and each other. The conversation explores the complexities of trauma, the process of personal growth, and the passion behind Savannah’s advocacy for social justice and systemic reform, all in a tone that blends sincerity, wit, and sibling banter.
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The tone is honest, irreverent, and full of familial warmth. Savannah is candid about vulnerabilities, past mistakes, and hopes for the future, while Chase’s teasing (and occasional heartfelt pushback) keeps things grounded and entertaining. Their dynamic offers a nuanced view of resilience, family loyalty, political difference, and what it means to grow up under extraordinary circumstances.
For listeners: This episode is a rich mix of tough love, vulnerable admissions, wit, and unwavering ambition that showcases Savannah Chrisley’s multidimensional journey—from reality TV to real-life advocacy. It’s valuable listening for fans and newcomers alike interested in family dynamics, social justice, and personal transformation.