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Yes.
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Thank you for coming on.
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You're welcome.
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Everyone always loves when we do podcasts together.
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I love that.
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I know. I think it's just more relatable. You don't really see any mother daughter duos out there.
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Well, we're quite the duo, if I do say so myself. We are.
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But it's funny though, how things have kind of shifted and changed when it comes to our relationship. Like, I mean, we've always been close. You've always been a rock star mom, but I feel like the older I get, the closer I become to you. Right.
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Well, I think as you get older, the relationship just evolves. It changes a little bit because you're now a woman. You're now a young woman and you see things that maybe you didn't see growing up. You have a different perspective now that you're an adult and that you have. Have had some life experiences. So I do think that. That those relationships do change over time. Not that I'm always going to be the mom, you're always going to be the daughter, but there is this respect, this friendship, this bond, and I love it.
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I know, I love it. I think. But I also think that can be a challenging shift for a lot of people.
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Right.
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And why do you think that is?
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Well, you know, sometimes, and if I'm being honest, sometimes I think, you know, you'll have opinions or you'll say things, and then there's a part of me that's like, girl, you're still a baby. You don't know. But. But then I have to stop and say, but, yeah, you know, you're bringing a different perspective to it.
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Yeah.
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Why would people just don't. Don't allow themselves to be open to accept something different or a different perspective on things. You know, you are 28. I'm 53. We were brought up completely different. Similar, but different. A different time, you know, just the whole. It was. It was just different. The world was different. And, you know, so we're going to see things differently.
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But I also think, though, I've never really experienced where I think I have gotten lucky is or blessed is like, I've never really experienced you saying, oh, you don't know, or you. Like, that's just not how you communicate. I feel like in some way, shape or form, you always validate what's being said, even if you disagree or see it differently.
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Thank you. I love that. I consider that to be a compliment because it's not always something easy to do, and especially as we get older. And I'm saying as we me gets older, you know, you become set in your ways, and you kind of, you know, my way or the highway. And that's not the best way to be. That's not the way to have relationships grow and evolve. You have to be open. You have to be open to change. You have to be open to different perspectives.
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But do you think you've always seen it that way or the most part?
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I think for the most part, I have, because I think that's just not something that you flip. If you're that way, you're kind of that way, and it just is what it is. I'm not saying you can't change, but most of the time you don't.
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What would you say to mothers who are struggling with that transition of going from like, I'm the mother, you're the child, versus as an adult, like, yes, I'm the mother, and you're still my child, but you're now an adult.
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Right. I think I can speak to young mothers. If you have little ones, know that that time flies by and that you think it's the hardest time in the world. It's not. You will look 20 years and you'll be like, she was right. She was right. That was the easiest time of my life. And those teenage years, you know, I've got a teenager at home. They're not the easiest, you know, but there are so much going on, you know, like. Like you said, this world's different for Chloe than it was for you, you know, at the same age.
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Well, yeah, because, I mean, I wasn't watching all kinds of crazy mess on, you know, TikTok or YouTube.
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This whole social media aspect of it is completely crazy. And there's so much comparison and there's so much unrealistic expectations out there of what is pretty, what is thin, what is successful, what is. Yeah, there's this box that you're supposed to fit into, and I think it's even more so prevalent today. But those hard teenage years, you make it through it.
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You have said the hardest thing you have ever done is parent adult children.
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Yes, yes.
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That is.
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That is the hardest job. That's the hardest job I've ever had. And I know our situation was a little bit different because. Especially, like, for you and Chase, because you had a financial freedom at an early age that most kids don't have, and that was due to the fact that we had the show for 10 years. But raising and parenting adult children is very difficult because you are, in the eyes of the law, in the eyes of the world, you are an adult. Even though you don't know jack crap about nothing, you still. You're an adult for, you know, what the world says you are. Yeah. And we can see it. I can see those mistakes before you ever make them. 99% of the time, because I've made them, you know, But I had to learn that. I got to let you guys live, and I got to let you make those mistakes, just like I had to make those mistakes.
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Well, yeah, but. And you're much better at that than dad because, like, you kind of help to bridge the gap when we're going at each other or he doesn't like something or dating someone or is doing something, and you're just like, this is their life. Right. Like, you have to let them do it. Right.
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You do, because you will run yourself crazy if you try to micromanage everything. If you try to control everything, you will literally run yourself crazy. And at the end of the day, you're still going to do what you want to do.
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Yeah.
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I mean, 99% of the time, you go do what you want to do. Come hell or high water. It doesn't matter if I say, savannah, you're going to crash and burn. I'm telling you, you're going to crash and burn. Because I've crashed and burned on that same course. But sometimes you still got to crash and burn, and that's okay.
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Well, it's okay. I was having a conversation with someone the other day, and they were telling me that they were going to do something, and I was like, I'll believe it when I see it. And they, like, sat back for a minute and was like, what? Like, do you think that is encouraging to me? Because it's not.
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Right.
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And I'm like, okay, well, I'm sorry. I didn't mean for that to, like, hurt your feelings or make you think I didn't believe in you. But for me, that's what encourages me. Tell me I can't do something.
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Oh, yeah, absolutely. If you say you can't do it, y' all will bust a gut. And to do it.
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Yeah. Like, that's. That's just how I do it.
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You cannot use reverse psychology on y' all at all because it will backfire every time if you try to.
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Yeah. Cause Dad. I think it's because dad used it so much growing up that we learned how to master.
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Yes. Reverse psychology.
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Reverse psychology, exactly. Like, it's that simple.
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Yeah.
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But I was also at the gym this morning and I was talking to a guy that works out after me, and it was so interesting. We were just talking about his business and how it could be beneficial to Good Girl and, you know, like more of a community based, you know, side of things, sending out text messages of encouragement and to keep people on the right track. And he was telling me about this test he wants me to do, and it's just all about, like, personality and traits and so many different things.
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Right.
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And he was talking about how, you know, with. With people, what he has learned throughout the years of doing this and people doing these tests. What you view as your strength may actually be the downfall of your marriage or your friendships or your. He was like, it's so interesting to go through that.
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Right. Well. And I think because people don't know how to effectively use their strengths, that's why they become the downfall. You know, you can be. You can have a wonderful trait, but if it's not used and if it's not applied properly, it then becomes a detriment. And I think that's what people. They can't. They don't know how to navigate that, you know, And I think a lot of it is people are just not in tune to their own feelings and people aren't. A lot of people aren't. I don't want to. Don't know what you were to use. A lot of people aren't confident enough to say, this is not my strong suit. Yeah. You know, it's kind of like fitting a square peg into a round hole.
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You.
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If you know that's not your strong suit, but people will jump on that because they think it's the popular thing or because they think it's going to get them to the next level or in the next room rather than say, okay, this is my strong suit, I'm going to build off this because this is really not my strong suit. But people see that as a defeat or that they failed as a failure. And it's not the greatest. To me, the greatest accomplishment is being able to recognize, okay, these are my strong suits. This is how I'm going to build on those strong suits. Doesn't mean I can't work on these other things over here. But why would I not lean into what I'm good at?
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But it's, it's like, like I said, the saying of like, it's okay to not be okay. It's like when you're talking about going to therapy, for you to be able to recognize, hey, I need this, and then to go and do it shows more strength than for you to not recognize it and get the help, right? It's kind of that same analogy, you.
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Know, and it's like with business, you know, I had a real estate company for years, you know, and I'd have people that come in and they're like, I only want to work with buyers. I just want to work with buyers. You know, I don't, I don't want to do anything else, but I want to work with buyers. But they were super smart when it came to contracts and they were super smart on the other end of it. And I'm like, but you're artistic and you're smart. Why wouldn't you want to be a listing agent? Because you have so much to offer. But you get stuck in this rut and in this, this single mindedness that I can only do this. And I think it, it holds people back. It holds people back in their careers, it holds people back in their relationships because they get stuck in that, in that one track mind, if you will.
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If you have followed me over the years, then you know one of my favorite mottos is it's okay to not be okay. And I am a huge advocate for therapy. And I think it's actually pretty cool to say, hey, I need some help and then be able to reach out and actually get the help that you need. Now we're in 2026 and I don't know about y', all, but a lot of people have New Year's resolutions. Maybe you promised yourself you'd better care of your mind this year. Especially after moments when you really could have used therapy. Maybe it was after a tough breakup, during a period of burnout, or when stress and anxiety were piling up. Maybe you tried to find someone who took your insurance and it felt impossible. I'm here to tell you that taking care of yourself should not feel that complicated. And this is where discovering Rula becomes part of your self care. This year you can take care of yourself with Rula. Rula has in network care that actually supports your self care goals. Rula works with most major insurance plans, which brings the average copay to around $15 per session. Depending on your benefits, your cost could even be zero. It makes taking care of your mental health realistic and affordable, which helps you stay committed to feeling better. This year, it turns therapy into a consistent part of your self care instead of something you try once and abandon. This year, make one change you can actually stick with. Visit rula.comunlocked to get that's rula.comunlocked R U L A.comUnlocked mental health care that's actually built to last. I don't know. I think right now, like with the conversation I had at the gym and then just other stuff going on in life, I feel like I'm like coming down off of all the craziness of the past few years and starting to internalize things and analyze things. And something happened yesterday to where I got a call and someone was telling me, like, you know, not bad news, but just things where things had gone wrong. And I immediately, like, shut off because I'm so used to things just like going wrong. I think with the past few years.
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Right.
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And it ruined my whole day. I was in such a mood and this person was like, all right, I'm sorry for upsetting you. I know. And this is someone close to me. So it was like, I'm sorry for upsetting you. Now I'm starting to learn that when I come to you and if something is wrong, I need to come to you and tell you what's wrong, but then also tell you the solution that I have for the problem.
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Right.
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But for me, you know, people shouldn't.
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Have to do that.
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People should be able to come to you and tell you what's wrong without it being debilitating and you just shutting off.
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Right. But I think it goes back to people react the way they react because of prior life experiences, whether that's good things that have happened or whether that's trauma that's happened, whether it's disappointment, whatever it might be, we all really react to things. Not in the present, not with that situation, but we react because of things that have happened to us in the past. And I think that's. That that happens with everybody in every aspect of life.
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Yeah. But yesterday when it happened, I was like, oh. And I'm just. And then this person fixed the problem right away. And the term that they said was hold on. It was actually really funny. And I've never heard this before, but the term was, it'll take years, most likely, for you to get comfortable and realize that I'm not a member of NATO. No action talk only.
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And I never.
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Heard that before, but I thought it was hilarious.
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I know who sent that.
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Yeah, yeah. No action talk only. And if you think about it, there's so many people in our lives and everyone's lives that want to talk, talk, talk, and not follow up anything with action, which then leads to a fear of disappointment. And you're always waiting for the other shoe to fall and never trusting anything because they want to talk and never act on it.
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Right.
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And I feel like we need more people who actually do what they say they're going to do.
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Absolutely. I agree. I agree 100%.
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Because I'm tired of people not doing what they say they're going to do. I can't also, it was. It's so random. So I went back to that text and also sent this other text. So I was going into Best Buy the other day to buy my workout ring, which I'm obsessed with. And I'm getting too obsessed too quick because people screw up my sleep schedule. It pops up my sleep score. And then I didn't get enough rest to be able to work out good. It's just I'm getting obsessed. Okay. But that's problem for a different day.
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Yeah, you need to put that thing in the trash. Because then when you, when you decide to get married and have kids, your sleep schedule goes out the window.
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Yeah. No. So I was going into Best Buy and you know how there's always, you know, you'll see kids out, you know, selling candy bars to help with their basketball. Yeah. And you know me, I'm a sucker every time for it. And. But I will say I used to be a sucker for it just because I always want to help people.
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Right.
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Like, if I'm in a position to help, I'm going to help most. Heck, I've been in positions where I hadn't been able to help, and I've still helped. And I've just figured it out, but you're starting to see it. I feel like in society shift from people who actually need the help versus people who are doing it to take advantage.
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Right.
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And someone told me, like, do not give them money. Like, do not give them money. That's not safe for you to do. And I'm like, I'm just giving them money for, like, their basketball, you know? Like, I was like, I'm just giving them money for their basketball. Like, no, I don't think you realize, like, that is not safe. Like, these are teenage boys. These, you know, you don't know what could happen.
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Right. And listen and I'm on the fence with that because it's just like when you see someone and they're, they're panhandling, they're trying to get money. If you give that with the right heart, you can't control what somebody does with you.
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Well, okay, so here's where it turns. It's not about what they do with it because, you know, I've never cared about what if I helped you, it's because I felt led to help you. What you do with it is on you.
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Right.
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But today, actually, it wasn't today. It just popped up on my newsfeed today. But it was a picture of a gun and weed and it says, man shot after trying to help teens selling candy outside Nashville Kroger. What? A 62 year old man in Nashville is recovering after being shot during what he thought was a simple act of kindness. According to Metro Nashville Police, the incident happened on December 2nd in the Germantown Kroger parking lot on Monroe street. People say a 16 year old boy identified as.
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As.
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I mean, I'm not gonna.
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No.
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Say the name.
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No.
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God forbid. Get sued. Yeah. Was selling candy outside the store when the man stopped to buy some. After the sale. The teen asked the man for a ride because it was cold as the man was letting as. You know what? Screw it. It's a, it's on a police report. I can't get sued for it. So let me go back. Police say a 16 year old boy identified as Jalen Fitzgerald was selling candy outside the store when the man stopped to buy some. After the sale, the teen asked the man for a ride because it was cold as the man was letting Fitzgerald out of his car. Police say the teen pulled a gun, demanded cash and medication, and then shot the man in the stomach when he tried to push Fitzgerald out. The victim was taken to a hospital and his injuries were described as serious but not life threatening. Fitzgerald was arrested on Jefferson street later while still armed and has been charged with aggravated robbery. Neighbors near 26th Avenue north, where the shooting happened say the case has made them more cautious about helping strangers. One resident said she now avoids giving rides and prefers to offer bus fare instead of.
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Oh my gosh, that is awful because I've seen those kids.
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Yes, I've seen these kids outside.
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They were at. Outside Trader Joe's one time when I was there.
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Outside Trader Joe's outside the Whole Foods? Outside the boutique we like to stop at.
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Yes.
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But if you remember, these same kids were actually part of that whole sting that happened a few months ago. Remember where the woman's car got stolen out of the Shell gas station. Yeah, they were part of that thing.
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It's. Yeah, it's unfortunate because it. You still can't let your heart get hardened to helping people. I still believe that you. But you do have to be careful.
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You have to be.
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But I'm not, I'm not putting anybody in my car. I don't care who you are. I do not care who you are. I'm not putting. I will give you bus fare, I will even call you an Uber, but I am not putting anyone in my car because that is just too dangerous.
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This is a 62 year old man that is trying to help someone. Trying. Who know you've got a kid saying he's cold, asking for money for basketball and then this happens, you get shot. And that was the thing, which I guess this is kind of a, you know, public service announcement is when I was giving this kid money the other day at Best Buy. Apparently what they do is they watch you as you're getting your money out.
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To see how much money you have.
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You're seeing how much money you have, they're seeing what jewelry you have on, they're seeing what bag you have so they can mug you, rob you. And then after giving this kid $20, there's someone else comes up and goes, can you give her money too? And I'm like, you asked me for $5 to buy a candy bar for your basketball. I give you 20 and then you ask me for more money for more money. Yeah, that's.
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That's not okay. That's not okay.
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But like, where are these children's parents? Is my question.
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Right? Yeah.
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Where are their parents?
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They're obviously unsupervised. But you know, in Atlanta, it has gotten so bad. But I remember in Atlanta by the mall, by the Lenn Mall.
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Yes.
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There used to be kids and young adults and they would get you when you were stopped to leave the mall, like you were in the traffic to try to sell you a water, you know, and when you put your window down, they would. Some. I, I've, I've heard this, I've, I've read about. They would reach in and either grab your keys or grab like jewelry off your hand or something like that, but rob you. I mean, I mean, it's gotten, it's really scary.
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I know. I. That's a hard one. That is a real hard.
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I mean, why is your child literally during this snowstorm, Right? Yeah, I see. Because you know where I live, right? And there is government housing not far, which is crazy. And there's these little kids, they could not have been 8, 9 years old walking back from the grocery store by themselves, which is easily a mile two mile walk. No, that's walking back from the grocery store. That is so where are those parents? Oh, I know those parents should be held responsible for neglect of their children.
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Right? But who would in. In today's society? I mean, I can remember back in the day when y' all were little and we were down in Florida at our house down there, and we would let y' all just ride your bikes and just go up the street and whatever, you know, eight, nine years old.
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Not today.
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I can tell you if I have, like, my grandchildren, I would never let that happen today ever. They would never go. They would never be out of my sight, because you can't do it, you know, So, I mean, I agree there are lots of parents who are not doing their job, but we have to.
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Find a happy medium. I mean, I know how at the end of the day, if your child is not doing what they. If they are involved in illegal activity, you as a parent, as hard as it may be, I feel like you need to make a believer out of them. You need. There's a reason as 15 year old should be walking around with a gun.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, no, not at all.
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And if you can, but you just.
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Can stop it now, it could prevent them from spending the rest of their life in prison.
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You know, like, you just saw where that shooting happened, that high school school shooting happened here in Tennessee. And the gun the kid used belonged to the mother who was a felon, and she went on the run and they just captured her.
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What?
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And she's being charged.
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Well, you know, there was that shooting, I guess I don't even know how.
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Long ago it was.
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My time runs together, but I think it was in Georgia and the. The dad had bought the kid the gun for Christmas and then he went in and shot that. That school that. No, no, there has to be some accountability to the parent here because why would you put a gun in your child's hand?
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Period, Period. There.
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There is no reason whatsoever. I don't agree with that at all.
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So it's. Yeah, it's just. I don't know, I think I'm just. Because, I mean, now that I'm not worried about y' all and fighting, you know, every single day, it's like I'm more aware of things that are going on around me because I feel like I just was like a robot. Like, I went to where I needed to go to. I worked on what I needed to work on. Heck, I feel like I would be getting in a car driving and not even remember driving to where I was going to, you know, because it was so Traumatic. And now I'm like looking at everything going on around me, which is crazy to see. I mean, even just this morning. So I'm talking to my trainer that I'm training with right now and he went yesterday to tour preschools for his daughter. And you know these preschools, they'll help with potty training your children. They'll, they do all that, right.
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And so they go, see, that's weird because back in the day, like when y' all were little, you had to be potty trained before your kid went.
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To preschool, which is honestly how it should be.
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I remember that like if it was like a true preschool like program, your kid had to be potty trained before they would take them.
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Yeah. Well, now it's supposedly not like that.
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Right.
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So they will help potty train your children. And they walk into this classroom and he said, there is a male, a male teacher or like male teacher's assistant. And he looked at them and goes, so I have a question. If my little girl is being potty trained and is going to the bathroom and needs help, who's helping her? Who's helping her? And they said, well, I mean, we don't discriminate, we don't discriminate against sexes. He said, so you're telling me that this man is going to go into the bathroom without my daughter and help her? No, that's not happening.
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That's unreal to me.
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Like what, what are your thoughts on that?
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No, I, I don't, no, no, no, not at all.
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Like it's, I, he told me that and I was like, you have got to be kidding me. He was, and he was like, no. He said, I, I about lost my mind. He said, I told her mother, I am not going on another school visit until we have their handbooks of what they allow and don't allow. Because I'm not doing this right. Like I would. You would be getting me out of jail.
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Yeah.
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If there was a man with my two, three year old daughter in a bathroom.
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Now that's just. No. And I'm not saying that. Listen, I'm sure there are capable male teachers and teachers, assistants. But I personally, for me, and if this is my child, it's my prerogative to make that choice. It would not be a choice I would make.
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No, say that. But again, this is, as a parent, potty train your child. Don't expect a school to potty train them because you doing that could cause them a life time of hurt. Yeah, yeah, one, one thing, one bad thing happens.
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That's Crazy that. Yeah.
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Like here I'd like to see.
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I would like to say that I'm shocked, but I'm not.
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Yeah.
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Because I just think it's just. It's just the climate that we live in now.
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I mean, and here in Tennessee, that. That is happening. Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like, there should be a law against that. There should. You shouldn't be having these teachers in a bathroom with this child by themselves unsupervised. Like, especially a male in with a little girl. But I'm sure there's going to be.
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People to say, well, what about a female teacher in with a little boy?
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Yeah. So that's my thing is your kids should be potty trained before you go to school.
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Yeah. I mean, they should.
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Your kids should be potty trained before you go to school.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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When he told me that I was. My head was spinning. I was like, oh, you'd have to get me out of jail.
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Yeah, that's crazy.
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You just would.
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Yeah, that's crazy. But I'm not shocked. I mean, it's sad that I'm not shocked, but I'm not.
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But why do you think you're. Why are you not shocked?
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Because I think we become so desensitized to everything. Like, we just become desensitized because everything is accepted now. There is no. Well, we don't discriminate. We don't do this, we don't do that. This is acceptable. This is whatever. And it's. It's really sad. It really is sad.
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Yeah, it. I mean, I'm still like, oh, my.
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Yeah, that. That would be a lot like the.
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Fact that this happened. I would it. I wish I. He's going to tell me who that school is.
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Right.
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Because someone needs to do an investigation into that school because something is happening.
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Probably steering clear. He don't want to tell you.
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Something is not clicking. No, no.
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Like.
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And he said he spoke to like the founder of IT and they didn't see an issue with it. And I'm like, this. This is weird. This is very weird.
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Like.
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No, I know. I'm just still mind blown by it. But like you said, with all the crap going on in our world, it really shouldn't shock me.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I literally just saw to where Lindsay Snyder, the founder.
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Well, yeah, she's. She's owner.
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The owner now of in and out to where she is getting so much backlash over not removing Bible verses, which.
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Is crazy to me. Yes.
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Over not removing Bible verses from the bottoms of their cups or the bottoms of their Fry containers.
B
And hasn't it always been that way? Isn't that something that was established years ago?
A
It has always been that way. It was established, like when they were founded. It says the Bible verses on In N Out packaging are not new. They've been part of the brand's identity for many years, traced back to the Snyder family's foundational values. This recent reaction appears tied to broader cultural debates about the role of religion in public spaces and corporate branding.
B
But it didn't matter, because guess what? She is the owner.
A
Exactly.
B
She does not franchise in an ounce. She owns it in its entirety. So she can put whatever the heck she wants to on that.
A
Exactly. Well, that's what I love about her, because I have to. I had a conversation with her. I've. Like I say, I had the privilege of having a conversation with her because her story is just highs and lows and comebacks and she does so much to help people, especially with addiction. She's been open about her story with addiction, but I had a conversation with her one time just about something that was going on, and we started talking and she was like, I don't care what someone says or does because my company is not public.
B
Right.
A
She was like, my company is not public. I am the owner, so I will act as I see appropriate.
B
Right.
A
So, for instance, when it came to Charlie Kirk's assassination, she had people who worked for her who posted the most disgusting, disgusting things on social media. And she's like, that. That's not tolerated at this company. You will not do that.
B
Right.
A
And she's like, I can do that. I am not a publicly traded company. This is a privately held business.
B
Right.
A
I can operate how I see fit.
B
Yeah, I love that.
A
And just how she stands.
B
How amazing would it be to have that kind of freedom to be able to do that?
A
Exactly.
B
Because anybody that's in the business.
A
Any.
B
Kind of, whether it's, you know, a publicly traded company or whether it's Hollywood or whatever, you know, there's such this fear of cancel culture and of saying the wrong thing, or this one not hiring you because you said this or because you believe a certain way. To have that just freedom to be able to do that is unbelievable to me. I love it.
A
I know. I. I just think it's so cool what she's doing, because it's like you just said, Hollywood. I mean, if you are not. We're at a place now in Hollywood to where, if you are not far left, you are not welcome. I mean, you saw what happened at the Grammys.
B
Yes.
A
Everyone wearing ice out pens and buttons and, you know, going against Nicki Minaj, making fun of her because she has stood behind President Trump. I mean, to see the things that these people are saying. And even when Jelly Roll did his acceptance speech and was talking about Jesus the whole time, people are now saying that he's brainwashed. He's brainwashed.
B
It just kills me because people is so, so hypocritical.
A
Because.
B
You know, at the end of the day, the left is supposed to be the party of acceptance, of softness, of kindness, of inclusion, of everything. But they are the first to lambast somebody that does not agree with them in everything that they believe in. I'm just so, so just hypocritical because you say that. How can you say that? You're the party of inclusion. No, you're the party of people who believe the way you believe. Yes. That's not inclusion. Is everyone like we, we accept everyone for who they are, but is that really the truth?
A
Is it everybody for who they are.
B
Or is it everybody for who believes the way that you believe?
A
Exactly. That, that, that's not inclusion to me, no, it's not. Because there is a prime example that's happening right now today. You saw how the far left reacted to Charlie Kirk's assassination, praising it, posting the most God awful things on social media. He had it coming to him. He deserved all these things. And then today you see Savannah Guthrie's mother, who is missing, they're saying has potentially been abducted from her home in the middle of the night. They have reason to believe it's a crime scene. I have seen, seen nothing from the right, the far right, but love and prayers.
B
And you know what I did see today that Jason Kennedy actually posted? Did you see what he posted? He posted where he had interviewed her where after she lost her father. And Savannah is a woman of faith, she's a Christian. And it, it gave me chills because, you know, she was basically saying, God doesn't promise us that it's going to always be easy. And he doesn't promise us that we're not going to have hard times. But that's when our faith really has to come into play, you know?
A
Wow.
B
And I was just like, oh my gosh. But it was an amazing. And he was just a small.
A
I'm gonna play it.
C
Remember in those early days, I had friends who said, oh, well now, what about your faith? What do you think? And I remember saying to them in that moment, this is when I need God the most. I can't lose my dad and lose God at the same time. I can't afford it. And so that has been a lifelong journey of coming to understand who God is, how he interacts with the world, what it means to live in a broken world. Where are you, God? What are you up to? Everything happens for a reason. Does it? What reason? If you're God, you can accomplish that goal without horrible suffering. You know, it's an irreverent thought. But I don't think God is afraid of that thought. And when I have wrestled with those things, I've come to a greater understanding about this broken world that we live in. What we can believe, and this is the leap of faith, is that God has promised that one day there will be no more suffering, and there will be no more tears, and there will be no more injustice. And that's the world he has in mind, and that's the world he's still working for. And that's the dream of God that we're supposed to still be trying to accomplish in our little way. And in our little way means by receiving his love. Remember in those early days?
A
That's amazing.
B
That just breaks my heart, though.
A
Oh, I can't imagine.
B
No, I. I literally asked that.
A
Literally. I was watching.
B
I said this on our podcast with me and your dad.
A
It.
B
It did. It breaks my heart because I think about, like, she was Nanny's age, you know, and I think about, you know, certain things when Nanny and I are talking, and certain things happen. I see fear in her that I've never seen before, and I think it's just because of age, you know? And I think that poor woman, if she was taken in the middle of the night out of her sleep, how scared she must have been, you know? And it's just, again, I just don't understand how somebody can hurt a child, an old person, an animal. I don't understand. I don't understand it. And my prayers are with that whole family, because that's just horrible, awful.
A
I was watching it, though, and I literally. And I think it's just what happens as you get older. I literally thought of you like, I couldn't imagine you at that age and somebody doing something like that.
B
Right.
A
But again, it's all thoughts and prayers, and I wish we could get back to that space, you know, just when something bad happens, let's pray for those people. Let's love those people. You don't have to agree politically. You don't have to agree on most things in life, right? But when something bad happens, yes, let's call what it is because I, I mean I'm literally watching the news every second this morning. I'm getting ready, I'm watching the news, waiting for an update. Woke up this morning hoping we'd have an update of someone dropped her off.
B
At a hospital or something.
A
Something like if it's money, let people give you money. Go take every possession she has.
B
Right.
A
But leave her at a frickin hospital.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
Like let her go home to her family. Let her.
B
Yeah, it just. That would be, that would be. I mean, you know, I can't imagine God has blessed me and I have, I still have both my parents, I have my mother in law, we did lose my father in law. So I have experienced that to some degree. But you know, I think to lose your parent to old age, just that they, they live their life and it was their time is one thing, but to have them taken in such a violent way, in such a way that's just so unnecessary would have to be just, just. It would have to just tear your heart out.
A
Oh it. And what was so sad too was I was listening to the news and law enforcement was saying, you know, they were worried because where she lived in Tucson was only 60 miles from the border. So all it would take would be an hour, one hour to have her.
B
Out of the country.
A
Have her out of the country, yeah. So I'm just hoping and praying that our borders are as secure as they possibly can be. So that didn't happen.
B
Right.
A
But it's just there's way more to.
B
This story and it's going to come out, you know, it's going to come out, it's going to be exposed and I just, it's, it's horrible.
A
That was. Yeah, yeah. I mean it. Just watching that, seeing that literally even now I'm like, all right, like what's the new saying? Do we have an update? Do we have. It just. I can't even begin to imagine.
B
Yeah, it's just the thoughts of hurting an elderly person. I don't know. There was a, a couple in actually your dad's hometown where he grew up and they were brutally murdered and allegedly by their grandson. And it was a couple. I knew the man from when I worked at the bank when I was 18, 19 years old. I remember him distinctively coming in. He owned a little restaurant. It was like a, a fish house, a restaurant. And so I just, I remember him coming in and they did so much for their community and for people in the community and for their church, they were so active and they were found dead in their home. And you know, it's like there, it's like a one horse town. You just don't think about something like that happening. But then the thought that it was actually their grandchild that has allegedly been charged or he's been charged with it, but you know, he hasn't been proven guilty yet.
A
It is, it's so sad. It is so sex.
B
I cannot imagine, like, I cannot imagine that being my child. Because this is, this is, this woman's child killed her parents. Like that is just crazy to me. And not you. And you've lost your parents and you've lost your son because he's gone now forever, you know.
A
Yeah, well, it's just like, you know, which it's. These are people's lives, you know, that we all do have to remember when speaking about these true crime cases. It is people's lives. So you do have to have a sense of empathy for people involved and what's going on. And you know, I did a podcast with this, this guy named Tucker and he was trying to figure out who killed his aunt. Like it's been a cold case for years and years and years. Right. And he helped to break the case after like, I don't know, 10 years, something crazy like that.
B
That is.
A
And now he's coming back on the podcast, he'll be on next week and he's coming back on the podcast to talk about where they're at in the case now and things that have been uncovered and who has been charged. And it's.
B
That's crazy.
A
It's crazy.
B
Yeah. The world that we live in, there is so much. I know, you know, you just have to keep moving forward. And I think you can't get marred down. You have to try to be positive. You have to try to find the good. And because there still are good people in this world, I do believe there are still good people in this world. There's a lot of evil. Evil. And there's a lot of sick individuals in this world too. But I choose to focus on the positive, to focus on the good and to have sympathy and empathy for the bad.
A
Well, you're better than I am.
B
Well, you have to, because you just can't.
A
I will go ape shit on somebody. Oh, my leg. Are you good? Are you falling apart?
B
You know I failed.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
Hey.
A
And we'll end this on a lighter note. She was wallowing all around outside in the ice.
B
I fell.
A
Yeah.
B
And your dad and Chloe laughed at me. Oh yeah.
A
You Brought my clothes over yesterday.
B
Yeah. Yeah.
A
What did Chloe do?
B
She ran in to get. Get her. Get her dad, get Todd. And he comes out there and they're both laughing and I'm laying in the ground. And so now. Oh, when I did that, it hurt. Hurt so bad.
A
Okay, well, have you learned to.
B
I've learned to stay off the ice.
A
Okay, well, that's good. Yeah, you stay off the ice. Not only did you fall, you busted a tire. You.
B
Yeah, I've had a week of it and it's only Tuesday. I'm like, I gotta get through this week. Lord have mercy. Stay out of the emergency room. Everything else, I don't even know because.
A
It ain't looking good where I get my driving from and my clumsiness. Yes, it is. This one.
B
Well, I did say that to somebody. They asked when I went to pick my tire getting the thing, they were talking about you. And I said, you know, I cannot talk about my kids. And they're driving because I taught them all how to drive and they can't drive worth a living.
A
Yeah, because dad wouldn't teach us.
B
No, he wouldn't even get in the car with you.
A
Yeah. So it's his fault.
B
Yep, it's his fault.
A
Well, thank you, Mom.
B
Thank you for having me. I love this. We gotta do it more often. I know. Oh, and don't forget our good girl.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
Teresa Tide. We're on it.
A
We are on it. So I do you. Can you tell a difference in my face?
B
I know you said you've lost, like.
A
What I've lost like seven pounds. Seven, eight pounds. And people are like, it shouldn't take a month to do that.
B
That's a lot in a month.
A
That's a lot in a month.
B
Yeah.
A
And you're also doing it the right way. You could be going out here doing drugs that are not, you know, FDA approved, not under the care of a physician. Exactly. And so when I'm doing it. And you start off slower because if you scroll through TikTok, you see so many people who actually, like, overdose on tirzepatide to where they're. And they get so sick, throwing up constantly. So you have to build up that tolerance.
B
Well, that's why it's important to have the physician to oversee and to help you because, like, what good girl's so good about. I'm.
A
So I started off at 5 milligrams. Now I'm going to 10, then to 15.
B
Right.
A
So it. You have to let your body get saturated with it. They say it Takes about three weeks. Because my first shot, I was still pretty much eating like I would. And then my second shot, it went down a little more now, so it's gradual. Third shot, more. Fourth shot, I'm like, okay, yeah, this is really built up. I see a difference.
B
Right.
A
So you have to give it time. That's right.
B
So go check it out.
A
Yes, go check it out.
B
Because we're gonna be hot girl Summer ready.
A
Yes, we are. When we have to go film this show together. But you can use our code unlocked 15 for 15% off@goodgirlrx.com we're doing so many fun things around the brand right now. Working on an app that has a huge community aspect to it so that it's easier for me to communicate back and forth with you guys and share tips and tricks, workouts, meal plans, recipes. It's been really cool to see how this has impacted people's lives. And the difference.
B
Continuing to evolve.
A
Yes, it's continuing to evolve. And just to hear people's personal testimonies of where they started, where they're at now. I had someone comment and say that they had lost 35 pounds.
B
Oh, good.
A
Already using Good Girls Tirzepatide. So it's just been such an awesome thing to build. It's. I'm just having so much fun with it and having a company that makes an impact on people's lives is what it's all about. So try. All right, Love you. Thank you.
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Episode: Focus On The Good (feat. Julie Chrisley)
Date: February 10, 2026
Host: Savannah Chrisley
Guest: Julie Chrisley (Savannah’s mother)
In this heartfelt and candid episode, Savannah Chrisley sits down with her mother, Julie Chrisley, for a deep dive into the evolution of their mother-daughter relationship, the challenges and joys of parenting adult children, and navigating today’s complex social landscape. The pair touch on generational differences, share personal anecdotes about growth and vulnerability, address current social issues, and discuss the importance of focusing on the good in a world brimming with negativity. The tone is open, empathetic, and often humorous, providing both practical wisdom and raw emotion.
Julie: “That’s not the way to have relationships grow and evolve. You have to be open to change. You have to be open to different perspectives.” [03:02]
Julie: “Parenting adult children is very difficult…Even though you don’t know jack crap about nothing, you still. You’re an adult for what the world says you are.” [05:18]
Savannah: “You cannot use reverse psychology on y’all at all because it will backfire every time.” [07:47]
Julie: “You can have a wonderful trait, but if it’s not used and applied properly, it then becomes a detriment.” [09:04]
Savannah: “I immediately, like, shut off because I’m so used to things just going wrong.” [13:46]
Memorable term: “No Action Talk Only – NATO” [15:20]
Savannah: “More parents need to be held accountable for the actions of their minor children.” [25:59]
Julie: “You just have to keep moving forward. You have to try to focus on the good.” [47:54]
Relationship evolution (Mother-Daughter):
00:45 – 03:27
Parenting adult children, letting go:
05:11 – 07:01
Personal strengths, therapy, self-improvement:
08:36 – 10:44
Expecting negativity due to trauma:
13:46 – 14:49
Risks of helping strangers and story of kindness gone wrong:
16:34 – 21:06
Societal changes & safety, parental accountability:
25:59 – 27:47
School safety and bathroom policies discussion:
29:35 – 34:05
In-N-Out, faith, cultural backlash, cancel culture:
34:25 – 38:23
Tragedies in the news, faith, and empathy:
39:58 – 44:58
Positivity, moving forward, ending on a lighter note:
47:54 – end
The conversation is compassionate, honest, and peppered with humor—even in heavier moments. Both Savannah and Julie balance openness about their personal struggles and opinions with a clear through-line: a resolve to “focus on the good,” seek growth, and extend empathy, regardless of disagreement or disappointment.