Guess Who's Back! (feat. Chadd Bryant)

Summary

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Unlocked with Savannah Chrisley

Episode Title: Guess Who's Back! (feat. Chadd Bryant)
Date: April 7, 2026
Host: Savannah Chrisley
Guest: Chadd Bryant

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Episode Overview

This episode of Unlocked with Savannah Chrisley features the much-anticipated return of Savannah’s longtime best friend, Chadd Bryant. After years apart and public speculation about a falling out, Savannah and Chadd candidly revisit the events that led to their pause, explore the complexities of friendships under extreme stress (including Savannah’s highly publicized family crisis), and discuss the power of boundaries, communication, and growth. The atmosphere is genuine, vulnerable, and sometimes humorous, offering listeners a rare look behind the headlines and into the depth of their connection.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Reuniting After a Pause (00:31–03:56)

• Background: Savannah and Chadd have been best friends for years but experienced a significant pause in their friendship after Savannah’s parents went to prison.
• Living Situation: Chadd supported Savannah during this period, living with her and helping care for her siblings, particularly Chloe.
• Public Speculation: There were rumors about a dramatic falling out; the friends clarify it was more of a quiet, mutual retreat under pressure, rather than a dramatic breakup.

“There’s a lot of speculation as to a fallout … None of it’s true.” — Savannah (01:53)

Navigating Difficult Times & Personal Growth (03:57–07:57)

• Emotional Toll: Both struggled to communicate their own pain and needs, leading to an emotional buildup.
• Perspective: Chadd admits he’s a “helper and a healer” but struggles to ask for help or communicate his own struggles.
• Loss: Chadd underscores that, with Savannah’s parents gone, he too lost key relationships.

“I’m good for fighting with everybody for everybody else, but not for me. So I don’t say anything, and then it all builds up and then I just disappear.” — Chadd (06:04)

• Loyalty: Despite the pause, neither resorted to drama or bad-mouthing, which they view as a testament to their genuine friendship.

“There was no, like, shit talking. There wasn’t any … drama. It was just an impossible situation.” — Savannah (06:53)

The Reality of Public Friendships (08:42–12:43)

• Being Friends in the Spotlight: Chadd opens up about his unique position as a friend to a family constantly in the public eye, noting the intensity and invasiveness from fans.
• Memorable Story: During a Memphis event, a group of fans physically mobbed Savannah for photos, revealing the challenges of reality stardom.

“I’ve never seen people be the way they are with y’all … People feel like they know you so well and they’re part of your life. So they just—it’s different than anything else.” — Chadd (11:55)

Codependency & Finding Healthier Dynamics (17:49–22:52)

• Old Patterns: Both laugh about their former codependent dynamic—calling, texting, worrying if they didn’t instantly reply—and the lack of boundaries it created.
• Growth: Each credits the pause with allowing space for therapy, self-reflection, and healthier boundaries.

“It allowed me to get into therapy again for the thousandth time ... Talk about just being more open when you’re not okay, having boundaries ... Everybody needs that in life.” — Chadd (21:51)

Advice for Listeners on Friendship Breaks (24:30–28:00)

• Taking Breaks: Both encourage listeners that sometimes friendships need space, and that absence doesn’t have to mean the end unless there’s toxicity involved.
• Communication: The importance of being honest without being hurtful is highlighted, with Savannah sharing lessons learned from grief and regret.

“If there’s something in your relationships that isn’t toxic, that’s just things that happen in life—sometimes things need breaks. Then you can find your way back.” — Chadd (25:32)

Grief, Healing & Spiritual Experiences (28:01–33:44)

• Processing Loss: Savannah shares a moving recent experience with a medium who relayed messages from her late ex, Nick, giving her unexpected comfort and closure.
• Chadd’s Parallel: He relates a similar story involving signs from a friend who passed away, reinforcing his belief in spiritual gifts and closure.

“She starts saying things ... and it was Nick. And she’s like, ‘he wants you to know that this wasn’t your fault’ ... I am sobbing because it was stuff she would have had no idea about.” — Savannah (29:07)

“There’s always signs in the universe, and I believe that God gives people gifts … if you need an answer enough ... it will present itself as long as you’re aware.” — Chadd (33:07)

The New Dynamic: Health, Boundaries & Future (33:45–39:45)

• Mature Friendship: Both celebrate being in a happier, balanced place now—still close, but less enmeshed and more individually fulfilled.
• What’s Next: Chadd updates listeners about being single by choice for three years, focusing on personal growth, therapy, and self-confidence (with some help from TikTok friends).
• Looking Ahead: They joke about Savannah’s future wedding and Chadd’s role as “man of honor,” and reminisce about their journey with warmth and humor.

“Sometimes you just have to figure out who you are because it’s so easy to lose yourself in a friendship.” — Savannah (36:21)

“It allowed me to focus on myself. It actually allowed me to really analyze ... because I did care about our friendship what I ... [could improve].” — Chadd (21:51)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Chadd’s sudden disappearance:
  “I kind of just Irish goodbyed.” — Chadd (06:26)

• On the Memphis fan incident:
  “30 or 40 people chased us down Beale Street and all the way to the hotel lobby.” — Chadd (11:33)

• On codependency:
  “We were together all the time, 24/7. If I was at home and got emotional and sniffed, she was in the car at my house.” — Chadd (18:36)

• On boundaries and healing:
  “We both have our oxygen masks on now and ... the flight is, you know, no turbulence.” — Chadd (22:52)

• On reconciliation:
  “We kind of did pick up where we left off ... but it's just in a healthier way.” — Savannah (18:04)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Time | |-----------------------------------------------------|-----------| | Savannah introduces Chadd and addresses the hiatus | 00:31–02:00| | Discussing the pause in friendship and support | 02:00–06:00| | Chadd on being a helper but needing help | 03:57–06:40| | Loyalty & handling public speculation | 07:57–09:01| | Story: The Memphis mob & life in the public eye | 09:43–12:43| | Reflection on codependency and growth | 17:49–22:52| | Friendship breaks and advice | 24:30–28:00| | Grief, Nick, and the medium experience | 28:00–33:44| | Reconciling and future plans | 33:44–39:45|

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Takeaways & Closing

The episode is a candid, heartfelt look at the complexities of adult friendships, particularly under public scrutiny and the strain of personal crises. Savannah and Chadd’s conversation underscores the importance of communication, giving grace to friends (and yourself), and respecting the need for space and boundaries, even when it’s hard. They remind listeners that real friendships can endure hard pauses and come back stronger, healthier, and with deeper mutual respect.

Tone: Warm, honest, often humorous, with vulnerability and hope woven throughout.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Welcome back to this week's episode of Unlocked. I feel like it's been a little while since I've recorded. I just got back from filming a TV show for a month, and let me tell you, my mental health is struggling. No. All jokes aside, it was fine. Can't wait for you guys to see it. I have no idea what's going to end up on camera because there is so much content. So just pray for me. But I am super excited for today's episode because we have Chad back on. It has been forever.

[C]

It's been a while.

[B]

When was the last time? Like, I don't know, three years ago, maybe. Three years ago? Because mom and dad have been home

[D]

for almost a year.

[C]

Yeah, it's been a hot minute.

[D]

That's crazy.

[C]

That is super crazy.

[D]

So for people.

[B]

For people that don't know, Chad Bryant and I have been, like, best friends forever. And then our best friendship took a little pause.

[C]

It took a pause?

[B]

It took a pause. It took a break.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And we kind of wanted to dive into that because there has been a lot of times where people have been like, where's Chad? Where's Chad? What happened? There's a lot of speculation as to a fallout and, oh, yeah, all that fun stuff.

[C]

Savannah can't keep no friends.

[B]

Screw you, Chad. That is not true.

[C]

None of it's true.

[B]

But, yeah. So Chad, we lived together, Actually, first off, also, too, guys, Chad is gay, okay?

[C]

So don't get it twisted. Or you can, or you can.

[B]

Who cares?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But we did live together, and everything was such a blur because I feel like it was such a traumatic time in life. But you went to drop mom off, right?

[C]

I dropped your mom off with your nanny and your papa and Chase.

[B]

Yeah. So y' all went.

[D]

You went to drop mom off at prison.

[B]

I went to drop dad off, yes. And then you were helping me, like, every single day with the kids, taking Chloe to school, like, every morning. You helped me so, so much. And I have said, even after you and I had our little you know.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Not even falling out. We just had, like, a pause.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We just.

[C]

A little.

[B]

Yeah. I had always said, like, I don't know what I would have done without you, because it was. I was in an impossible situation.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And you just, like, picked up the pieces. We were. What do they call it in today's day and agenda?

[C]

Marriage.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

We were a lavender marriage at the time.

[B]

We were.

[C]

Yes. I mean, we were doing it. And, you know, I took Chloe to school a lot, and I'll never forget that I. Spice song that she played every.

[B]

Yeah. Because of Holly.

[C]

Morning. Oh, Holly. Yeah.

[B]

Holly showed it to her, and when I heard it the first time, I was like.

[C]

Every morning on repeat, I was like, oh, my gosh. I just heard that song. I still hear that song, literally. But, yeah, it was. It was a. It was an. It was a. A tough time. And we had been friends for, what, like, six or seven years before that? I mean, we always were together, always on trips. That's why when we had our little pause, people were kind of like, where's Chad? Where's Chad? But, you know, there was a lot of things going on behind the scenes after your parents went away that a lot of people just didn't see or know.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think it was. I am a. My personality type is a helper and a healer, but I'm. I'm. I'm the. I'm not good at asking for help myself or saying that I'm not okay. And so I think that's where, you know, it just got to be so much. But neither one of us were communicating about how we were feeling to each other.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So I think it just built up, and it kind of just.

[B]

I think, you know, with mom and

[D]

dad leaving, it was easy for me to say, like, hey, this is my parents. Like, my life has fallen apart.

[E]

But also.

[C]

Right.

[D]

You and mom were friends first.

[C]

Like, yeah, y', all. We're still tight. Queen.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Me and your mom are like, what's up?

[D]

Literally.

[B]

But I think that's something, too, that I didn't take into consideration was.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You also lost people.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, totally. I mean, me and your mom were. Went to lunch all the time, and we hung out. We talked every single day, you know, and so when she went away.

[F]

Oh.

[C]

And I didn't have that. And then there was just pressure on the both of us, which obviously, in anybody's life would cause tension and, you know, stuff like that. It just kind of felt like the world was kind of caving in and collapsing, probably on the both of us.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Obviously more on you.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But. But it was. It was tough. But we're here.

[B]

And I think too, how we went about our little paws. I remember, like, Chad is the type of person. And correct me if I'm wrong.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But you just let it build up and then you hit that breaking point.

[C]

Yes.

[G]

And that's 100 true.

[B]

In my heart and mind, it was like you literally just disappeared.

[C]

Yeah, It's. It's genuinely that way. And I feel like if you guys talk to any of my exes, they would probably say the same thing. I'm not good at communicating. I'm not. I'm good at communicating for other. And. And championing for other people's feelings and emotions. I've done hair for 20 years. That's what I do. But I'm not good at champion. Championing. Champion. I don't know how to say that word.

[B]

Championing.

[C]

Yeah, that's hard.

[B]

I'm.

[C]

Let her say it for myself. You know, I'm good for fighting with everybody for everybody else, but not for me. So I don't say anything and then it all builds up and then I just disappear. I mean, again, any of my exes can tell you, like, they're like, I don't even know if you cared about

[G]

me because we've been together for like six years and I'm just like, deuces.

[C]

And then I block, delete, and then they don't even see me.

[G]

I'm like.

[C]

But that comes from a lot of my past and, you know, compartment mentalizing my feelings and trying to protect myself, to be quite honest. So it wasn't fair to you. But I just thought, okay, I just got to go. So I kind of just Irish goodbyed.

[B]

Yeah, you definitely Irish goodbye. And I think what was hard for me was I was like, I've literally lost everyone in my life and you are family. So I was like, this is one more person that I've lost.

[D]

This sucks.

[B]

This is terrible. And. But there was no. I think what I'm really proud of is there was no, like, shit talking. There wasn't any, you know, type of drama.

[C]

Right.

[B]

It was just an impossible situation.

[C]

It was. And I think, you know, I feel like. And correct me if I'm wrong, I'm the only person that's not your family that has a Christmas stock in a Yalls house, literally.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Engraved with everybody else's. But, you know, it's. It's hard when you are friends for so long and then something like this happens. But you guys know who I am.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Your whole family knows who I am. And there's always things that go on in Yalls world behind the scenes that a lot of people don't know about. But I've never been the type of person to ever. You've never heard me say one thing, any of y', all, about any of y', all, because it's just not my business. But I'm. That's how I am with my regular friends. Not you're not a regular friend, but just. You know what I'm saying that there aren't in that world, like, it's never my business to say it, so I'm not gonna say it.

[B]

Well, loyalty is big thing, right?

[C]

Yes. And even again, I keep relaying back to my exes, which has been a while, but they. They would even tell you, like, there was. They never heard anything bad. They never. But the thing about the whole, like, me disappearing and kind of like, cutting people off, it doesn't allow you to fight and argue. It doesn't allow you to have words. It allows you to kind of process heal, in my opinion, and then kind of move past it. And then that's a reason you can kind of be friends again, because you never have that, like, dirty, messy, dirty messiness. And I don't. I don't. And when people ask me what happened, I would just be like, she's doing her thing. I'm doing mom. We just had to kind of do our own thing. Like, it never was like, a. A situation that I was telling people, too.

[D]

It's hard.

[B]

And I didn't really understand this, but it is hard being a part of someone's life who is in the public eye and. And getting kind of roped into that and feeling like you lose us, like you lose parts of yourself and that person or their life.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, it definitely was that way. And again, I was happy. It was. You know, you guys were. Were and are like my Nashville family. You know what I mean? Like, I have my family back home, but there were times in my life where I was busy. I mean, again, spent Christmas with y', all, rather going to spend with my family because I just couldn't get there. So it was like being in a relationship, in a family with you guys. But. And you guys being celebrities are different than other celebrities because I have other celebrity clients, you know, like hair people and stuff that I do. And some of them are more world renowned.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Than you guys are. But I would ask your dad sometimes, because when we go places and People may not know this. I've never seen people be the way they are with y'. All.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, I mean, just, you know, like, coming up all the time, crying coming up. Like, even when we. Me, you, and Nick went to Memphis for you to speak that women's conference.

[B]

Oh, my God. So that was y'. All. This was insane. I spoke at this women's conference. Chad and Nick both came along. We were gonna make, like, a fun time about it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And what was the weekend?

[D]

It was.

[C]

They were all dressed up, so they were just having a bar crawl. But it was, like, women that were my age, like, in their 50s. No, REM was prices, right?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

They had prices right things on. They all had their big bouffon tear. There's probably, like, 40 or 50, like, you know, women that were in their 40s and 50s. And me and Nick and Savannah, we were dressed in, like, you know, very casual, like, workout clothes. Savannah had a ball cap on. We were in this bar, and then it was the tin roof in Memphis, and these women come up and notice her, and all of a sudden, they're wanting to take pictures and stuff, and. And I'm kind of like. I'm always the cruise director. I'm like, hey, everybody can have a picture. Just, can you guys get on this side or me?

[B]

I am. You know me. You've seen me. I am totally fine with conversations, with photos.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But when you start touching me.

[G]

Yeah.

[C]

So they started feel super violent. They started leaning on her. They started pulling on her. And finally I was like, hey, y'. All, you know you're kind of hurting her. Like, can y' all back up? And they're like. And they were on a park crawl, so they were. They were a little bit in the sauce. And I get that. But then they started, like, you know, like, kind of being like, we're not hurting her. And so then I was like, oh, hell no. We getting out of here. So I was like, come on, Nick. So I grabbed Savannah. We ran, but they chased us.

[B]

Chased us.

[G]

30 or 40 people chased us down

[C]

Bill street and all the way to the hotel lobby. So I will say that, like, again, I have other celebrity clients. I've been around. I've gone on trips with. But I asked your dad one time, I said, why? Is it because I'm friends with and do the X, Y, and Z's hair, and they're. No offense for, like, what we're now, like, what is it? And he said, you know, we didn't know that other people didn't get treated that way.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Until I guess he was sitting at a dinner table with, like, Tim and Faith or something.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And some women walked by. They came up, they screamed and yelled at your dad. They asked him for a photo. They never even said anything to them. And I think that, you know, Faith was like, people don't do that kind of stuff to us. And.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And Todd said, well, I didn't know. And Tim said, well, you know, the difference is, you know, we're music stars or movie stars, and people don't get to really see inside of our lives. But people feel like, I mean, they're at your doctor's appointments. They were there for your wreck. They're there. Ye so they feel like they know you so well and they're part of your life. So they just. It's. It's different than anything else. Yeah. I will say, being part of Yalls family, it's. It's very different than anybody could really

[B]

put in the work.

[C]

Put into work. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

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[B]

It's a lot. And that's so funny. I totally forgot about that. Yeah, girl, that was crazy.

[G]

That was one of the craziest experiences. I was like, we are supposed to

[C]

get mobbed by these prices, right?

[B]

Let us.

[C]

You know what I'm saying? Like, we about to go down.

[B]

Out, Literally. Yeah, so. And that's the thing is we have so many fun moments and, like, memories. And I am so happy that we're at a place now to where, like, we kind of did pick up where we left off and. But it's just in a healthier way.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew that, like, I knew that we would probably. We would come back together. I knew we would because we had such a connection, you know, like, we

[B]

were just very codependent.

[C]

We were. We were actually very codependent, like, in

[B]

a very unhealthy way.

[C]

It was. It was too. It was too codependent. I mean, we were together all the time 24 7. I mean, if I was at home and got emotional and sniffed. She was in the car at my house. You know, she come over there or whatever. Same, same, Vice versa.

[B]

I mean, one time, Chad wasn't answering his phone.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And this is when Chad lived and

[C]

I lived over in East Nashville, and

[B]

it was in a complex before East

[C]

Nashville really took off, you know, like, there were some things. My car had gotten stolen one time, and I didn't realize it, which they just took it for a joyride and brought it back. But, you know, but Todd and Savannah knew that, and so he. Here's who I am. I have too much energy for my own good, but I don't sleep. I showed you the other night. I had two hours of sleep, but I was. And you guys were like, how are you even functioning?

[B]

Literally?

[C]

So I don't sleep that much, but there are times where I will sleep and I will sleep, like, on a Sunday.

[B]

He told us he would be here at, like, 9 or 10am I don't

[C]

think we ever set a time.

[B]

Yes, we did.

[C]

I just said, I'll see you guys tomorrow. But nine or ten in their brains, was where we were at. So I lived in a. In a complex. It was all, like, concrete, and there was a fan in my rooms. It was super loud, and I'm just asleep, butt naked. Don't judge me. But I'm just in the bed asleep, and all of a sudden, my phone, because it's always on silence. Vibrate, vibrate, Vibr. So finally I picked it up, and it's Julie. And I'm like, hello? And she's like, where are you?

[G]

And I'm like, what's going on? She's like, savannah and Todd are at your door. They're about to kick your door down. You got to go to the door. They think something had happened to you. And I was like, what? And so I'm, like, trying to put clothes on with shorts rolled backwards and

[C]

running to the door.

[G]

All the neighbors are outside.

[C]

Todd's got his Bentley parked under my stairwell. Savannah's got a pink taser. I'm like, what?

[B]

What?

[G]

What did y' all think was gonna happen? I'm like, yo, get in here. They're like, we thought you were dead. And I was like, well, damn. At least I know that if something does happen to me, I won't be missing for long.

[C]

You know what I mean, too?

[B]

That was during the time that wasn't that back whenever something had happened to your friend.

[C]

And one of my friends, unfortunately passed away, and they did not find them for, like, a month.

[B]

Yes, it was ruled a suicide, but it was not a suicide.

[C]

It wasn't. We're not gonna get into those meat and potatoes.

[B]

No, we're not.

[C]

Super tricky.

[B]

It is. But this was, like, during that time.

[C]

So my mind a lot of things.

[B]

I'm like, oh, my God, he's dead. He's this, he's that. It was. But that, again, that's how codependent we are.

[C]

Like, yeah.

[B]

You don't respond to a text. I'm like, oh, my God. Something's wrong with him. Like, we were talking every second of every day.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And honestly, I won't take, like, those moments.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Like, I wouldn't trade him for anything.

[C]

No.

[B]

But now we're just in a different place. Like, yeah. I'm personally happy and fulfilled in my own relationship and life, and now it's like, hey, let's go grab lunch or, let's go grab dinner. But it's not like we still hang

[C]

out, we talk, but we're not like so codependent where we need to be up each other's butt all the time.

[B]

Literally.

[C]

We really were. Yeah. And it allowed me to. I mean, I'm not saying you're a totally different person. I'm just totally different. My career has taken off. It allowed me to focus on myself. It actually allowed me to really analyze because I did care about our friendship what I and I took a big part of just not being honest and, and saying that I needed help or saying that I was overwhelmed or because I didn't want to overwhelm you more. So it was a whole thing. But it allowed me to get into therapy again for the thousandth time and, you know, talk about, you know, just being more open about like when you're not OK day having boundaries, you know, things like that, which everybody needs in your life and your relationship with friends, with family, with everybody. I mean, you got to be able to take care of yourself first. Like put your. What's it called on the plane, put your oxygen mask on first before you put anybody else's on. So anyway, we both have our oxygen mask on now and we're. The flight is, you know, no turbulence.

[B]

No turbulence. It's great.

[C]

Yeah.

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[B]

What would you say to people who are listening, who maybe have that friendship, but they're like, hey, I need a break. But I'm fearful of saying I need a break because I think it may just all explode.

[C]

Yeah. Well, I'm just gonna say this. I don't, I don't know people's stories or situations. I mean, with you and I, there was never anything we could pinpoint in particular. It was just a buildup of stuff that I don't think either one of us were communicating and life, things that had happened obviously with you, where your world got turned upside down, where everything that we were used to doing together just kind of like dissipated and then everything changed. And I say that to say if, if there's something in your relationships or things that have happened amongst friends, amongst your family, that is not toxic, that is just things that happen in life. Sometimes things need breaks, then you can find your way back.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I mean?

[B]

I think it's about being open and honest about how you feel.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And not allowing yourself to.

[C]

Right.

[D]

Not, not really.

[B]

Not not allowing yourself to say things that you're gonna regret.

[C]

Right.

[B]

You know, because I think that's too what I learned, especially after Nick died.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like I, like right after Nick died, like I had so much regret over using my podcast and vocalizing, you know, things I was pissed off about or saying hurtful things and saying things that

[D]

I never got to make.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and that really caused me to take a step back and be like, okay, I'm not gonna do this again.

[C]

Unfortunately, in life, you know, life and God, the universe, Tom Cruise, whatever you believe in, they will, it will present itself in ways where, if you're aware there, and sometimes it's unfortunate circumstances will make you take a look at yourself and self reflect and kind of like, you know, realize the changes you need to make in your own life. And that's whether you have to again protect yourself first, but then get with people in life. And as life goes on, like when we're younger, I feel like in my 20s I wanted to be friends with everybody. And for you, you're different. Like, you know, I don't want to

[B]

be friends with anybody.

[C]

You're a different 20 year old, you know what I'm saying? Like, you've, you've had to mature very quickly on TV and stuff, but I remember a normal 20 year old being in my twent and wanting to please everybody and be around everybody and I care what everybody thought. You Know, and as you gradually go grow older, you know, in my 30s, I cared a little bit less. Now that I'm almost 50, you know, my circle is very small. The people that I have around me are people that I trust with everything. So I think in life, you just have to pick your people wisely and make sure that people are pouring as much into your cup as you're pouring into theirs. Because there's a lot of givers in the world, but there's also a lot of takers. And it's really not anybody, I think, having those intentions of that. It's just naturally sometimes where people are.

[B]

We live in a very selfish world.

[C]

We do. We do. And so. But ultimately, take care of yourself and surround yourself with people who, you know, have your back and are taking care of you.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, which.

[B]

It was crazy when I just brought Nick. I forgot I didn't tell you, but I'll tell you more off camera about this situation.

[G]

Okay.

[B]

But I was in a situation recently to where there was a medium that was there.

[C]

Oh, Lord.

[B]

In a room that had probably 75 people in it.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

And this person starts saying things, and this person did not know who I was. I believe that. Wholeheartedly starts saying stuff. She was talking to this one person because, like, someone was coming through. But then she stops in the middle of talking to this person because she. Someone else is coming through and, like, really coming to her. She's like, the back of my head, like, she kept, like, grabbing her head, like the back of her head was hurting. And she starts saying things. And she was like, is this identifying with someone? And I'm just like, sobbing because it was things like, she would. Had no idea about.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And it was Nick. And she's like, he wants you to know that, like, this wasn't your fault.

[C]

Right.

[B]

You know, because I've said I believe that if I didn't break up with him, he wouldn't have bought a motorcycle. That's what. Like, that's the guilt that I've held.

[C]

Right.

[B]

And she touches on that. And I've never said that at all, ever.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And she touches on that and, like,

[D]

a few other things.

[B]

And when I tell you I am sobbing because it was stuff she would have had no idea about. It was the craziest experience of my entire life.

[C]

That's insane. Well, you know, that's crazy. I do believe. And, you know, we're not. You can come for me if you want to, but, like, I know the Bible says, like, pro. You know, what is it? Called. Yeah, like, like all that.

[B]

False prophets.

[C]

False prophets and all these things and mediums and psychics and stuff. But I believe in the Bible, it talked about those people that are doing it for money and not for the right reasons. But I believe there are some people that have a. Give people closure.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

That is a direct line through God or whatever you want to call it. And that they are not only reassuring people that there is, you know, something after we're gone here, but our loved ones are still with us and they're still around us, and it gives you a positive and a hopeful thing, and they're not like, doing it. So I do believe in that because that happened with my friend that we were talking about earlier.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, when she passed and was in her place and I felt bad because I hadn't, you know, like, reached out and stuff, but she just kind of disappeared for a while and then she'd resurface. And that's just how she was.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

But I had a lot of guilt and struggles with it. And, you know, I posted a picture. This was before Instagram was public and you could see what people, you had to be friends with somebody for them to see your page and all this stuff. But anyway, I, I, after she passed, it saw a picture of a cloud, and I have the picture somewhere, but it's literally looks like her sitting sideways because she wore these big diamond earrings. Her hair was always up, she always sat way. So anyway, I, I posted that on my, on my Instagram. And I don't know if you guys remember, but Instagram used to, when you posted it, it would post amongst other people's stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So when I posted that, I said, is there a heaven? You know, just like that. And your dad's post was underneath mine, and y' all were on a beach somewhere and it just said, heaven is real. It was those two things together. But nobody could have seen my stuff because, again, it was private. After she passed, this other guy went to a medium in LA or something. He sought me out. I didn't even know who he was. It was one of her ex boyfriends because he had a really hard time and he came to me and he was like, hey, I'm so and so, you know, I wanted to talk to you for a minute. I saw this medium in la and he said, you know, when I started talking to her, they said, you know, this lady is a Barbie doll type. She wants you to go back and tell her friend. He was her best friend at the time. He starts to the Ch. His name's. And he said, it has to be Chad. And she said, yes. She said, we please go tell him that was her in the cloud that day. She's okay. She's so. Just all these things. So I've had. I've had the same types of experiences it does.

[B]

And when I tell you there will be a time to. Where everyone in the world gets to see this moment that I experienced.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

But it was the craziest thing to. To even the extent of this person giving, like, a date, a month of, like, a text message that again. Yeah. No one would have ever known.

[C]

Ye.

[B]

Also a nickname. And she said something to the extent of, like, this being, you know, it was a nickname, but, like, I kind of hated it. And I did. Because, you remember, he would always call me kid. He'd be like, love you, kid.

[D]

Love you, kid.

[B]

I'm like, stop freaking calling me kid. Like, I'm not a kid. You remember that? Yeah, but, like, things that no one would have ever known.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But whenever we finish, I'm gonna tell. It was. Was the craziest experience.

[C]

Yeah. I think that, you know, believer number whatever. There's always signs in the universe, and

[B]

I believe that God gives people gifts.

[C]

God. And I believe God gives you gifts, but I also believe that, like, if you question things enough, if you need an answer enough and you're praying about it or you're, you know, manifesting or whatever you believe in, it will present itself as long as you're aware.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, like, because that's just how life is.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's.

[B]

It's insane. I can't believe I did. I haven't told you that yet.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I told you this trip. It really took a lot out of me, so now I'm remembering.

[C]

Oh, I didn't know that happened on this trip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That happened there. Okay.

[B]

It was queen crazy. Crazy.

[C]

Buckle up.

[D]

Absolutely insane.

[B]

Yeah. But no, I'm just happy that we're in a really good place now.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I love it. It makes me happy. We're, like, going into the different phases of life now, and things that we had manifested before are now gonna come true, you know?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

We had always said that Chad's gonna be my. What did we say?

[C]

Man of honor.

[B]

Yeah. Man of honor. So who knows that may happen?

[C]

That's the man of honor. And Holly's wedding. Stop.

[B]

I didn't realize that. Yeah, girl.

[C]

I was a man of. Honestly.

[G]

In front of her sister, which her

[C]

sister didn't want to make a speech or do Anything, you know, I don't care.

[B]

No, you love it. I mean, I may restrict you from a speech, but, you know, too much.

[G]

Definitely get microphones.

[B]

Definitely. And two, you're coming to Cayman and.

[C]

Yeah. June, June, June.

[B]

I cannot wait.

[C]

Yeah. I'm excited. I definitely. Our lives. I think our friendship needed, you know, it was a. It was a pause for us to figure out our own stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Who we were and then realize really what we did have and have a healthier friendship.

[B]

It gives me more respect for what we had and what we do have. Because you didn't go out here and say things.

[D]

You didn't try to hurt me.

[B]

You didn't. Hell, I vented to a family member one time and it damn got back to you. And I'm like, you can't trust these people.

[C]

Yeah. Like, even if they're blood and even then, I didn't. Yeah. I didn't retaliate. I didn't. It's just not. It's just not who I am. You know what I mean? Now, listen in. In a very close circle of people that would know between you and I, if, like that family member that called me, they would say something and I would say, well, I mean, maybe that's how she's feeling. But this is how it was for me. I did say my part of it to those people, but I wasn't in the streets talking. I wasn't posting stuff. I wasn't saying things. You know, in Yalls world, there's certain people you talk to. That's just how it is. But sometimes you don't think it's gonna transfer back to the other person because

[B]

it's like the game of damn telephone should not even get transferred.

[G]

Yeah, it's true.

[C]

So, you know, I think we both were in our feelings. I think we both. Both, you know, potentially like, talk to people once things were said. But it was never like a public blowout. It wasn't a I'm coming for you, you're coming for me. It's just not that type of situation.

[B]

Yeah. So you heard it here first.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We did not have that type of situation. We are good and great and life is good. I'm so happy. I feel like things happen for a reason.

[D]

Sometimes you need breaks.

[B]

Sometimes you just have to figure out who you are because it's so easy

[D]

to lose yourself in a friendship or.

[B]

And it's just during that time, honestly, I feel like our relationship was a casualty to a situation that had nothing

[C]

to do with us 100%. It was a lot of exterior situations that caused us to have a collapse in our friendship that there's just too much pressure. So it wasn't anything that would have happened between us per se if all these other things would not have happened.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

100.

[B]

So what is. What's going on in Chad's world? Is Chad dating?

[C]

Chad has been single intentionally for like the last three years since Jonathan. But because again, I'm a helper, I'm a healer, I have a tendency to find people that need. Need something need to be fixed, but I need something. So I've just kind of been intentional. But I've had started to dip my big toe in the pond a little bit.

[B]

Interesting.

[C]

But nothing like, like, but also I

[B]

will say even that situation, like your last relationship.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Hearing, you know, now your perspective after you've had time to reflect and you were like, no, I was not in a healthy place. You're like, I mentally was not okay. I maybe didn't treat this person the right way. I may be like, yeah, being able to have that much self awareness is something that most people will never find in their entire life.

[C]

Yeah, it's been, it's been. I, I think it's been a game changer and I think it honestly has been for both of us. But I definitely feel like I had a little bit of a glow up. Don't know what happened, but I mean, I've watched. Somebody was talking the other day about watching me on what, one of the episodes that I was on your show and like, that didn't even look like you. And I was like, I know, girl. I lost weight. I got a mustache, which obviously changed my face. I got some eyebrows. I didn't have no eyebrows. I was like, what happened?

[B]

An old photo of guys. You didn't have a hat on and you had no mustache, no eyebrows. I didn't know no.

[C]

People thought I got a face stiff when I got eyebrows. This girl like did that.

[B]

We call it like microblading.

[C]

Microblading. Because I just had no eyebrows at all. And it just. I mean they don't look crazy or anything, but they just kind of defined my face.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

So I was like, well, you look

[B]

like a totally different.

[C]

Don't be afraid. Get you some eyebrows if you ain't got none. But it kind of this whole time has kind of let me find myself, you know, in just different weird ways. There's always these, like, I've been doing like, this is wild. But like I've been doing like tick tock lives. And there's this chat group with these

[G]

younger gay dudes that are all on there, and they really build up my confidence. They're so nice. It's like Chase and Brennan and.

[C]

And Gray and all these people. But they are so, so nice to me on there. And we chat, but, like, that's kind of helped me build up my confidence. There's just been lots of your. You find your way in your outlets to do all these things, and you just kind of find yourself, and then you find your way back to people that matter. So here we are.

[B]

Well, I love you. I love you, and I'm proud of you. Thank you.

[C]

And I'm proud of you, too.

[B]

I'm happy we're back dating.

[G]

You know, we're back at our lavender marriage.

[B]

We are. It's the greatest thing ever.

[C]

Nobody cares.

[B]

I know.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I love you.

[C]

I love you, too.

[B]

Well, thank you. Y' all heard it here first. Chad and I are now back better than ever, and I'm excited for it.

[C]

Yeah, same.

[B]

All right.

[C]

To the future and beyond what Chad said.

[B]

Love you guys.

[C]

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