"He's Finally Been Arrested" (feat. Tucker Simmons)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Unlocked with Savannah Chrisley

Episode: "He's Finally Been Arrested" (feat. Tucker Simmons)
Date: February 17, 2026
Host: Savannah Chrisley
Guest: Tucker Simmons

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Episode Overview

This episode provides a dramatic update on the widely followed murder case of Donna Arsenault, the subject of the podcast series "Freeze Frame," hosted and investigated by Tucker Simmons. With the long-awaited arrest of Troy Scott Jordan—Donna’s boyfriend at the time of her death—Savannah and Tucker detail the shockwaves this arrest sent through their community and offer exclusive insights into the arrest, the legal proceedings, and the ongoing courtroom drama.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Arrest of Troy Scott Jordan

• Background: Last time Tucker appeared on "Unlocked" (Dec 2025), there were suspicions but no arrest. Tucker now confirms arrests have finally been made.
• Arrest Details:
  • Troy Scott Jordan was arrested at his hospital workplace early on December 23, 2025 ([01:19]).
  • He was charged with second degree murder in the 2017 death of Donna Arsenault ([02:00], [21:01]).
  • Tucker rushed to witness the scene, feeling a bittersweet relief ([02:18]).

Quote:

“It’s weird to feel excited, though, because Donna’s still gone. But this has been five years of my life, and I knew he was in custody.” – Tucker ([02:23])

2. Family & Community Reactions

• Mixed emotional responses from Donna’s family—relief, gratitude, reluctance to trust due to past law enforcement failures ([02:50]).
• Public awareness is high due to the publicity of the podcasts and ongoing exposure of local corruption ([03:41]).

Quote:

“Her sister Sherry... was ecstatic. And then a couple other folks... were just kind of like, it's real. Like, I don't know what to believe.” – Tucker ([02:53])

3. Bail, House Arrest & Courtroom Oddities

• Legal Drama:
  • Jordan’s bond set at $2 million but was reduced to $500,000 after a bond hearing ([04:10]).
  • Unusual: The judge directly asked Jordan how much bond he could afford ([04:47]).
  • Jordan’s attorney put him on the stand at the bond hearing—a rare, risky move ([05:25]).
• House Arrest:
  • Jordan secured bail (paid $40,000 to a bondsman) and is now on house arrest with strict geofencing ([17:07], [17:22]).
  • He was terminated from his hospital job immediately following the arrest ([17:29]).

Savannah’s reaction:

“That is the craziest thing I’ve heard. So, like, now you’re not even acting as a judge, you’re saying, all right, how much can you afford?” ([04:51])

4. Key Testimony at Bond Hearing

• Tucker shared and Savannah read excerpts from the court transcript—showcasing both incompetence and damning cross-examination by prosecutors ([06:03]–[14:50]).
• Prosecutors zeroed in on:
  • Allegations of domestic abuse, inconsistent timelines, and potential covering up of evidence (notably, a missing cell phone).
  • Jordan contradicted himself and possibly perjured himself during cross-examination.

Quote:

“So basically a mini murder trial at a bond hearing.” – Tucker ([16:19])

Quote:

"He’s locked himself into a timeline now." – Savannah ([16:30])

5. Upcoming Legal Proceedings

• Next hearing scheduled for April 1st, with trial possibly on April 6th, though a delay is likely ([17:54]).
• Defense asked to delay trial until late 2027, but prosecutors expect it to be sooner ([18:10]).
• Request for a venue change to New Orleans due to high publicity ([28:33]).

Quote:

“My guess would be just work every possible angle to get evidence thrown out or just drag it out as long as they possibly can.” – Tucker ([18:31])

6. Podcasting & Investigation Impact

• Tucker credits the success and exposure of the "Freeze Frame" podcast as pivotal to the renewed investigation ([20:31]).
• The current sheriff and DA directly acknowledged the role of public attention and the podcast series ([21:01], [40:35]).

Quote:

“I obviously know that the podcast is the only reason that the new sheriff looked into the case because there’s so much pressure.” – Tucker ([20:32])

7. Evidence, Suspicions & Involvement of Others

• Jordan’s girlfriend, Suzette, remains by his side and is under scrutiny for potential evidence tampering ([23:52]).
• Some of Suzette’s actions during court (coaching from the gallery, outbursts) highlighted ([24:40]).
• Tucker has recorded, unreleased conversations with Suzette that may be released if relevant to the public case ([27:12]).

8. The Gravity of the Case

• Donna’s family is finding some closure, but grief remains ([29:42]).
• Community and family reactions covered, including the possible effects on Jordan’s children ([36:28]).
• If convicted, Jordan faces mandatory life in prison for second degree murder ([31:52]).

Quote:

“In Louisiana, it’s mandatory life.” – Tucker ([31:52])

9. Reflections and Final Thoughts

• Both Savannah and Tucker reflect on the strange new sense of identity and relief accompanying courtroom progress ([29:20], [38:56]).
• Tucker may be called to testify; he’s prepared and has documented everything ([39:08]).
• Commitment to following through and updating the public as the case develops ([41:43]–[43:13]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On justice delayed:

  “It’s been five years of my life, and I knew he was in custody.” – Tucker ([02:29])

• On courtroom drama:

  “So basically a mini murder trial at a bond hearing.” – Tucker ([16:19])

• On family impact:

  “It doesn’t bring their mom back, but it can give some a little bit of closure.” – Savannah ([30:13])

• On legal process:

  “A grand jury indicted him. So obviously, there’s a lot of evidence that even I don’t know.” – Tucker ([35:00])

• On personal cost and relief:

  “It’s a relief. And I know I’m going to be dragged and dragged to the mud.” – Tucker ([38:56])

• On the power of media:

  “I obviously know that the podcast is the only reason that the new sheriff looked into the case.” – Tucker ([20:32])

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Important Timestamps

• Arrest timeline begins: [00:54]–[02:00]
• Arrest at hospital recounted: [01:19]
• Family reactions: [02:44]–[03:15]
• Bond hearing details: [04:10]–[06:03]
• Transcript reading: [06:08]–[14:50]
• Missing cell phone discussion: [14:55]–[16:19]
• House arrest and employment fallout: [17:07]–[17:29]
• Next court dates: [17:54]–[18:10]
• Defense requesting trial postponement: [18:10]–[18:23]
• Role of podcast in renewed investigation: [20:29]–[20:32]
• Sheriff press release read: [21:01]–[23:01]
• Suzette's possible involvement: [23:52]–[28:28]
• Change of venue discussion: [28:33]–[29:08]
• Community/family reflections: [29:42]–[30:17], [36:28]–[37:08]
• Sentence overview: [31:52]
• First/second-degree murder clarification: [32:18]
• Impact and role of media: [40:35]

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Where to Get Updates

• Tucker Simmons / Freeze Frame Podcast:
  • Instagram, TikTok, Facebook: @FreezeFramePodcast ([35:51])
  • Part Two of the podcast series to drop soon ([43:01])
• Savannah Chrisley:
  • Committed to sharing trial updates as they happen ([42:44])

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Tone & Style

The episode is candid, emotionally charged, and occasionally darkly humorous (“He’s on house arrest in a 400 square foot tiny house” – [23:41]). Savannah and Tucker balance the gravity of the case with the procedural oddities and small-town drama that have made this investigation so gripping. They remain respectful of victims and families, bringing humanity to a long, painful search for justice.

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For listeners new and old, this episode provides a clear, thorough, and often jaw-dropping update on the Donna Arsenault case—a testament to the power of persistent journalism and community advocacy.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome back to this week's episode of Unlocked. I am so excited for this episode because we have some updates for you. So many people loved my episode with Tucker and his podcast and just uncovering what truly happened to his aunt. And now we have some answers for you guys that you have been waiting on. And I know I have been waiting on this, so.

[B]

Well, thanks for having me back. Of course. It's been an eventful couple months.

[A]

I know. How long ago was it that we filmed?

[B]

Late December.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Early December.

[A]

Okay. Early December. So now we are in February. And there have been. When we. Where we left off was just. We believe we know who did it, but there have been no arrests, no one's been indicted, and we were just waiting.

[B]

Yep. And when I was here last, I kind of had an idea that it was about to happen.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Just couldn't say anything.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

On December 23rd.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Right before 6am so that was probably.

[A]

A week after we recorded, I think.

[B]

Yeah. And it was. It was a week after the episode came out.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Weeks after we recorded.

[A]

Okay. And so tell us how this happened.

[B]

Well, Troy Scott Jordan, who is who we spoke about last time, Donna's boyfriend at the time of her death.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

He was at work at a hospital, and the sheriff's office went in, spoke with security. They went back to the department he works in, and basically said, you're under arrest for second degree murder.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Apparently, he got a little mouthy at first, and then I think it dawned on him, I'm not helping myself. So they.

[A]

Do we know what he allegedly said or how he was responding or.

[B]

This is effing bs. This is all political. Yeah, that's what some of his co workers reported, but.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow. Okay, so he gets arrested and then what happens?

[B]

Well, I got a call from someone at the hospital saying the sheriff's office is here, and they requested to go to radiology. I think it's happening. So I jump out of bed at 5am like, book it into town. And when I pulled in, the sheriff's office had just turned their lights off and they left. So he was in custody when I pulled up.

[A]

And what. In that moment, what were you feeling?

[B]

Excitement. But I've said it several times. It's weird to feel excited, though, because Donna's still gone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, you know, this has been five years of my life, and I knew he was in custody. I immediately called the sheriff, and I was like, hey, did this just happen? This is what I'm hearing. And he said he had some phone calls to make before he would speak to me.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Come to find out, he called Donna's kids and her siblings.

[A]

And what was their reaction?

[B]

I think there were some mixed emotions. Her oldest son, from what I understand, was just very thankful and grateful that it was happening. Her sister Sherry, who you hear in the podcast and Freeze Frame, was ecstatic. And then I think a couple other folks that he spoke to were just kind of like, it's real. Like, I don't know what to believe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because they don't trust the former administration, so.

[A]

Wow. And too, it has to be hard because I feel like after a certain amount of time, you try to put it to rest. Right. Like, whether you know the truth or you don't know the truth, you'll go crazy just living in it. So you have to somehow put it to rest and try to move forward. And now it has to kind of feel like it's all opening back up.

[B]

Right. And I. I think because of the podcast, because of Freeze Frame and it being so public throughout my investigation, I think it did help them a little bit cope with the idea that he's arrested, some of the corruption and allegations have been exposed, and I think they're pretty confident that this is the right guy.

[A]

And so what. Where is he now?

[B]

He's on house arrest now, unfortunately.

[A]

Okay, and how did that occur?

[B]

So when he was arrested, he was given a two million dollar bond, which I believe is the highest in Washington Parish.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

What? I'm told he wasn't able to reach that bond. In Louisiana, you have to pay 12%.

[A]

And so why did he not just stay in jail?

[B]

So his attorney's appeared at his bond hearing and requested a bond reduction. Unfortunately, the judge did give him the reduction to half a million. It was kind of weird, though, because they asked him how much he could afford and he said 500,000.

[A]

Like, so that's not how this works.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You don't. That's like going to. That is the craziest thing I've heard. So, like, now you're not even acting as a judge, you're saying, all right, how much can you afford? And then that's like saying, okay, well, how much time do you think you could serve in prison? Oh, only two years. Okay, I'll give you two years. Like, that's not how this works.

[B]

Exactly. I was blown away by that. But that's not the craziest thing that happened. Scott Jordan's attorney put him on the stand at a bond hearing.

[A]

What? Which is unheard of is unheard of. You don't do. I have spoken to so many criminal defense lawyers, and they have said the only time I put my client, like, on the stand is if there is a photo video of them with a gun in their hand or there's an audio recording of them saying, I did this and that. He said, that's the only time I ever put a defendant on the stand.

[B]

100%. I. I wasn't able to make it to the hearing, but I immediately called the court reporter and got the transcript. And reading that thing is unbelievable.

[A]

What did you say? Do you have a copy of it?

[B]

I do. I have it on my phone.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I should have printed it out for you.

[A]

No, you're not.

[B]

But.

[A]

You want to. If you hand it to me and I can read it out loud.

[B]

You.

[A]

Point to the area that I need to read. I'm still in shock, honestly. It should make you feel good because that tells me that he's got a lawyer who is for shit at what they do.

[B]

His. I don't want to be ugly about the lawyer, but he comes across kind of like the My Cousin Vinny character, at least in the transcript. Okay, so you'll see Mr. Burns is his attorney.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And that's when Mr. Burns puts him on the stand.

[A]

So the lawyer tells him, go take the stand. Troy Scott Jordan. He was sworn in. Let's see. Would you give the court a narrative of your life from the time that you were born here until the time you were arrested? Are you married? Do you have children? The court. I do not have time for his life story. Mr. Burns, I've got a Zoom conference with doctors in 10 minutes, so wrap it up, Mr. Burns. Well, I think we can do this. The court, that would be great. If not, we're going to have to recess this while I handle the other matter. Bye, Mr. Burns. All right, so give us five minutes worth of you. I was born here. The court. No, his direct testimony. I don't want to hear an open narrative. How old are you? 59. Where do you reside, Isabel? Let's see where. Where's a.

[B]

Where it gets really juicy. This is. He put him on the stand to, I guess, be his own character witness. Yeah, but obviously, then he is cross examined by the prosecution. And that entire piece is.

[A]

This entire piece fascinating.

[B]

Where it says cross examination.

[A]

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[B]

They know the answer.

[A]

Show? Not that I'm aware of. Have you ever called her a. Not that I'm aware of, no. Specifically, while Ms. Arsenault was still alive, did you abuse your child in those ways? No. Were you arrested for domestic abuse, battery with child endangerment upon Ms. Arsenault approximately a year before her death? Yes. In that case, you were prosecuted and that case was dismissed at her request, Is that correct? Right. Were you abusive in your relationship with Ms. Arsenault? Clearly, it got silent maybe. And he said, sir, were you abusive in your relationship with Ms. Arsenault no. Did you ever strike her? No. Did you ever threaten her? No. Did you impose rules upon her that she must live by in terms of who she could speak to or how she may dress? No. We wrote a list, maybe of things that might help our relationship. And did you instruct her that she was not allowed to talk to her ex husband unless you were able to monitor the conversation? No. Clearly he's lying.

[B]

Right? Well, we read the list of rules last time I was here.

[A]

We read the list of rules. Did you ever follow her as she brought her daughter to her ex husband? I drove by there. Drove by? I didn't follow her. To a place where you knew that a child exchange was going to take place. But I wasn't following her. So you just coincidentally drove by? Yes. Were you present in the house on the night that she was killed? No. Is it your testimony that you were not there at the time that a bullet entered her body and killed her? No. Is it your testimony. Excuse me. Did you enter the house with another person and find her body? Yes. Who was that other person? Michelle. Michelle Thomas. And why did you and Michelle enter the house? We went to check on her. And why did you go to check on her? Because we were worried about her. I hadn't heard anything from her all day and we were worried after the threat she had made. What threat? What threat had she made? She was sending text messages late that night, threatening suicide. And we referenced that last podcast. How we didn't really.

[B]

Was she really sending those messages?

[A]

Yes. Are you referring to somewhere between midnight and 4:00am? Yes. And you went to that residence just before midnight, correct. Roughly 20 hours after 4am? Correct. The next night. So was it 20 hours later or was it a day and 20 hours later that you went by the house? It was the next day, the next night, again, 20 hours later, or a full day plus 20 hours later, the next night? While I understand you're saying the next night, I'm trying to clarify. Are you talking about more than one full day or less than one full day? Probably less than one full day. And you did not elect to go and check on her yourself at any time since you had last communicated with her some 20 hours earlier, is that correct? Right. You had a key to that residence, correct? Yes. You use the key to enter the residence, correct? Yes. You could have checked on her at any time after you say that she made that threat, correct? Yes. But I went to the next day, after I brought the kids to school, I. I went and brought daughter. I just don't like saying names of people who are, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I went and brought the daughter to get pants or something that day. And then not hearing from her that evening, I started getting worried at that point. Is your testimony here today? You did not become worried until someone much close, until sometime much closer to the hour that you went to the house and entered with Michelle later that evening. So it was not until after you had taken the child shopping at some point during the daytime that you became concerned for her? His answer was that evening. Because I didn't see her on messenger. She was usually always on Facebook messenger. And I didn't see her on that. And, you know, I figured she'd be sleeping until late. It was late phone calls. And so later that evening, I started getting worried about her. Holy cow.

[B]

So they take a brief recess, and then they come back, and the prosecutor asks a very interesting question about a jail phone call.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Yeah. So do you want me to read it? Yeah. The judge goes to a zoom call, comes back, and the prosecutor says, just one more line of questioning. Mr. Jordan, where currently is the cell phone that you had at the time that Mrs. Arseneaux was killed? I'm not sure. Well, let me be clear. What I'm talking about is the cell phone that your girlfriend Suzette told you during a jail phone call that police were looking for, for which a warrant. And looking for with a warrant. And she did not want to. She did not want you to tell them or her where it is. Where is that phone? I'm not 100% sure where it's at. Well, why are you not certain as to where it is? I would have to look for it. Is it in your house right now? Possibly. Have you instructed anyone to remove it? No. If it is not in your house, where would it be? It used to be in my truck. Is that cell phone that you are. Is that the cell phone you're still using? No, it has been placed. Sorry. It has been replaced by a newer version of a phone. Right. But you never got rid of it? No, I kept it. So that phone, to the best of your knowledge, is currently in your house or in your vehicle? Yes. Okay. And then back to his attorney, just point blank. Did you kill Donna Arsenault? No. And that's all the questions he had.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So basically a mini murder trial at a bond hearing.

[A]

That is insane.

[B]

And he's locked himself into a timeline now.

[A]

Yeah, he's locked himself into a timeline. He has also answered questions, and he could have possibly lied in the. In that line of Questioning. So when it comes time for a trial, they will bring this back up 100%.

[B]

Yeah, I'm told. I haven't spoken to the prosecutor, but I'm told that he left there just ecstatic. He couldn't believe what had just happened.

[A]

Wow. Who left ecstatic?

[B]

The prosecutor.

[A]

Prosecutor. So when they reduced his bond, he clearly made it, I guess.

[B]

I'm told he got a bail bondsman and he had to pay 40,000 in order for the bondsman to put up his bond. And he's on house arrest. I believe he has a 300 foot geofencing.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

On his ankle monitor. He can go to work, church, or to meet his attorney, I believe.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I found out a couple days ago that the hospital he worked at terminated him. I haven't spoken to, I haven't gotten an official report on that, but all of his co workers say, wow. Like door codes were changed when he was arrested and some people had to like swap out their badges and.

[A]

Holy cow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So now he is currently on house arrest. And what are the next steps?

[B]

April 1st, there's another hearing. Where? In. In that transcript. The prosecutor says they're going to request April 1st to decide if they can start the trial, the trial, on April 6, the following week.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Which is highly unlikely.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Mr. Jordan's attorney said last week on a news interview they were shooting for late 2027 to go to trial, which I'm told is not going to happen. It's going to happen much sooner than that.

[A]

Well, also, you have a right to a speedy trial. And why are you wanting to push it to 2027?

[B]

My guess would be just work every possible angle to get evidence thrown out or just drag it out as long as they possibly can.

[A]

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[B]

It's hard for me to take credit, honestly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you know, I obviously know that the podcast is the only reason that the new sheriff looked into the case because there's so much pressure. But it feels good that all the hard work finally paid off. And obviously he'll have his day in court, but innocent until proven guilty. But I firmly believe that they have the right person.

[A]

Holy cow. And what did you bring here?

[B]

So this is the sheriff's press release, and these are a few of the articles that were written.

[A]

So the press release was. Sheriff Jason Smith announces arrest and the homicide of Donna Arseneau, December 23, 2025. Today, Troy Scott Jordan of Franklinton was arrested and booked into the Washington Parish Jail on the charge of second degree murder in connection with Donna Arsenault's death in 2017, almost 10 years later.

[B]

Eight. Almost 10. Yeah.

[A]

Holy cow. The arrest of Mr. Jordan marks a significant development in our ongoing effort to ensure accountability for this murder. I extend my sincere appreciation to the Louisiana State Police not only for the technical assistance of their crime lab, but also for the efforts of their investigative team to rescue this case from dormancy. The assistance of the Saint Saint Tammany. Saint Tammany Parish Coroner's Office was also particularly beneficial to the investigation, and I appreciate their support on this case. I want to thank Colin Sims, our District Attorney, for the legal guidance of his staff and their cooperation throughout this investigation. His partnership was essential in advancing this case to its current stage, and we will continue to work closely with the District Attorney's office to ensure that this case proceeds appropriately through the judicial process. Fred Oswald and Jimmy Richard, our investigators on this case, were firmly committed to pursuing justice on behalf of Ms. Arsenault and her loved ones. Their experience and perspective were instrumental to the process, to the progress that we've made, and they remain disciplined and persistent throughout this process. I commend their Ability to handle this case with the utmost diligence, professionalism, and respect for the victim and her family. This matter remains an act of criminal investigation, but members of the media will be given an opportunity to ask questions at a press conference to be announced separately.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow. And those are some of the articles.

[B]

These are just some of the articles. Yeah. And I don't think we showed a picture of him last time I was here, but.

[A]

Well, I mean, it's now public records, so here it is. And. Wow. So what. What was the status of his life when he was arrested?

[B]

He was working his job. He worked night shifts at the hospital. I. I'm told he had just purchased a tiny home type house on some new land that he bought outside of town, which, you know, I hate to laugh at someone's misfortune, but he's on house arrest in a 400 square foot tiny house.

[A]

He's gonna drive himself crazy. And he rightfully deserves it. Holy cow. And what happened with his girlfriend?

[B]

She's living with him.

[A]

Oh, so they are still together.

[B]

They are still together.

[A]

I mean, is there a chance that she could also get charged with destroying evidence? Or. I mean, cause that jail call, what. What exactly did it say?

[B]

From what I understand, they were talking about the cell phone and they issued a search warrant. And I'm guessing she knew what they were looking for or they told her.

[A]

And when was this phone call?

[B]

It had to have been maybe the first week of January.

[A]

Oh, so of this year.

[B]

Of this year.

[A]

Okay, so they. So going back, they actually issued.

[B]

A search warrant.

[A]

A search warrant to find more evidence.

[B]

Exactly. And I haven't verified this, so I'll say allegedly, reportedly. But I believe one of the co prosecutors actually got up from the bond hearing and immediately went out and started working on a search warrant. When they started talking about the phone, I'm not sure why they waited. That could just be someone trying to make up an interesting story. Yeah, but his girlfriend was in the gallery at the bond hearing and was called out a couple times for like, mouthing things to him while he was on the stand, trying to encourage him what to say. And. Wow. And she made a couple outbursts and the bailiff finally told her, one more outburst and you're gone.

[A]

Yeah, she better be careful because, I mean, if she interferes with a criminal investigation, especially for homicide.

[B]

Right. It's not a good look.

[A]

Not. Not a good look. And it makes it look like her hands aren't clean either. Yeah, because were they together? I forgot. Were they together at the time?

[B]

They Got together about a year after Donna's death.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And they've been on and off again since then.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I've actually spent a lot of time on the phone with Suzette and meeting with her, actually.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She now claims that she was only meeting with me because she was trying to find out what I was actually doing, and she and Scott were working together to fool me. But some of the things that she told me are absolutely horrific things that she's been through with him.

[A]

So that's not someone trying to work.

[B]

I'm like, why would you tell me all this really terrible stuff if you think I'm, like, looking into the story? Like, you would just be telling me how amazing he is.

[A]

Exactly. And she would be trying to get information out of you.

[B]

Right. So she's very vocal on social media now. Not so much after the arrest, but has called me every name in the book and.

[A]

Well, of course, because that's all they have to resort to.

[B]

But I have everything. Every conversation I've ever had with her is recorded. Like, she claims I told her I was state police. Like, I'm not a law enforcement officer.

[A]

First off, why would you ever say that?

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's public knowledge. I mean, it's not hard to figure out.

[B]

It's also illegal to.

[A]

Illegal. That's what I was about to say. To impersonate a federal official. So let's. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So I just. I. I try not to respond because I can get kind of mouthy when after a while, it's just like, I got to shut this shit down.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

And I'm like, if you want me to just clip the audio of the first time I rolled up on you at the bank and introduced myself, you know, clear as day, told you what I was doing, and I'm not police now. Are.

[A]

Are you opposed to doing that? Like, have you put all the audio recordings out today?

[B]

I have not put any recordings of my conversations with the girlfriend out in the public yet.

[A]

Now, are you planning on it?

[B]

I'm deciding how to address it in part two. I mean, she was a source, but she outed herself on social media. So I feel like my moral obligation to keep that secret. I mean, she. Yeah, it's gone. So at this point, I. I don't feel bad about releasing it.

[A]

And there is a way, because this. I mean, this now is very public in that small town, so putting the truth out there could only help the case even further.

[B]

Exactly. And law enforcement is aware of a lot of the things that she and I Discussed. And they seem to be very interested in. And some things. So.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Holy cow. I cannot believe this. I mean, the fact that he has been arrested and I am praying that this trial happens in April.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Praying. I mean, it's a small town. How backed after the court.

[B]

I know. Well, that's the other thing. They filed for a change of venue, and I'm told they're trying to get it sent to New Orleans.

[A]

What? Why?

[B]

Just.

[A]

Well, they're trying to get it sent to New Orleans because they're going to say that they can't get a fair trial.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Because of how small the town is and all the people that know about it.

[B]

It's so public.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I'm. I can kind of see it both ways. If he does get convicted in Washington parish or the 22nd Judicial District, I'm sure they would immediately file an appeal for, you know, unfair venue or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So it might be better to move it and just let it play out.

[A]

Gosh, that is insane. I can't believe this.

[B]

It actually happened.

[A]

It actually.

[B]

I still. When I'm, you know, working on part two of Freeze Frame, it's like, I can't believe. And it's also kind of a. A strange feeling because my identity has become this case.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that wasn't my plan to begin with.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, you know, I love my work and obviously want to see him behind bars. But it's also kind of a strange feeling, like. Yeah, it's coming to a close.

[A]

Have you had any communication with the rest of the family?

[B]

I have. I speak to her sister very frequently. Her daughter, we. We speak all the time. Her oldest son, he's a great guy. Really proud of him. And they've all been through a lot in their lives, and I just hope that they have a little hope that, you know, the justice system isn't all bad.

[A]

Yeah. That there can be justice.

[B]

In the end. It doesn't bring their mom back, but.

[A]

It doesn't bring their mom back, but it can give some a little bit of closure.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

And where's the house that she was murdered in?

[B]

It's about or just less than a mile from the hospital.

[A]

But who owns it now?

[B]

He still owns it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I believe he's trying to sell it, but we'll see.

[A]

Did he go in and just redo everything or.

[B]

Well, I had. I would say, six months ago, maybe three months ago, people would pass by and there were, you know, like, work trucks outside and lumber and all kind of stuff and redoing the floors or something, it looked like, so people would like pull over and take pictures and send it to me. So he, he was doing some sort of construction or updating, but he moved. He moved way, way, way out of town.

[A]

I mean, I probably would too, if I was him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So as of today's day, he has been arrested. Here is the photo, which looks scary in itself, honestly. And this is. This happened in 2017.

[B]

I will, I will say, just for Donna's sake, he did not look like that when they were together.

[A]

He did not look like.

[B]

He did not look like that when they were together. Holy. She would probably want me to say that.

[A]

Good. Yeah, I'm glad you set the record straight on that one. So as of today, Troy Scott Jordan has been arrested for the murder for second degree murder. And what is if convicted? What. What kind of time is he looking at in the state?

[B]

In Louisiana, it's mandatory life.

[A]

Wow. Mandatory life.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Holy cow.

[B]

And a lot of people were mad that it wasn't first degree, but that's such a high bar and this is a eight year old case. It wasn't handled properly to begin with. And yeah, so I, I understand why it's second degree for sure.

[A]

Because. And can you explain to people difference, first degree versus second degree?

[B]

So first degree, I mean, the simplest way is you commit the murder while also committing and associate, you know, a connected crime or there's evidence of, like, thorough planning.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And this. I still have several theories about how it all came to be, but I do think second degree is a fair charge.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Because first degree murder is more of, all right, you have a gun, you shoot someone in the back, it's on video. Or you have this whole plan of what you're gonna do.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so you, you think it's fair that it's second degree murder?

[B]

I do.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I also understand some of the family members who are like, wtf?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like just, you know, death row, but nobody's on death row is like actually getting put to death.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. It's. It's one of those things that. You know what, in my opinion, you deserve to sit there for the rest of your life and sit there with your decisions and your own thoughts instead of getting the easy way out. I completely agree because I believe getting put to death, that's just the easy way out.

[B]

And not to mention, it drags the family through years and sometimes decades of the legal system just constantly setting roadblocks and keeping people in court forever.

[A]

Now, is there any other updates or anything that you feel like people would want to know.

[B]

There are a few. I'm trying to be careful. I did call the sheriff and I told him I would be here again and asked if he had anything to say about the case or him getting out on house arrest. And he said anything I would say right now wouldn't necessarily be helpful. He said, but he'll have his day in court. And I believe in the case that we put together and a grand jury indicted him. So I think he's right where he needs to be.

[A]

And I think that's something extremely important to point out is a grand jury and indicted him.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

That is a group of individuals who have been brought in basically on jury duty to indict this man.

[B]

Correct. And that's something I didn't share. The way he was arrested was probable cause. So the sheriff's office believed in their investigation. They took it to a judge, and the judge signed an arrest affidavit. Arrest warrant.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And so he was arrested with a judge's support. To just strengthen the case, though, the DA's office then put it before the grand jury and they indicted. So obviously, there's a lot of evidence that even. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because they feel very, very strongly that.

[A]

They have a solid case and that evidence will not come out until they're at trial.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

And so we don't even know because there still hasn't been. I guess. I mean, I would be shocked if the trial happened in April because you still have to have discovery. They have to turn over things. The government has to turn over things.

[B]

I don't think April's gonna happen. I don't know if it's just a technicality where they just wanna say, we're gonna do this as soon as possible.

[A]

Well, they'll have a status hearing, I guess, at the first of April. It'll be their status hearing. And then they'll start setting the guidelines of. We have this date for discovery. This date. I mean, I wish it would happen in April, but chances are it's not.

[B]

No, I think it'll be early next year at the latest.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

My prediction.

[A]

And where can people find updates on this?

[B]

You can find updates on my social media, Tucker Simmons or Freeze Frame podcast on Instagram, Tick Tock, Facebook.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And part two of Freeze Frame is coming out. I know everyone's, like, freaking out. Yes, I made them wait a year, but I stayed quiet on purpose.

[A]

Well, because you don't. It wasn't. It was never about money or notoriety. It was about solving this case. So you knew you had to wait until there was progress. Progress made in the court system.

[B]

Exactly. And I didn't want to screw that up. I mean, I knew that this was coming. Yeah, but.

[A]

And his kids, how have his kids reacted to this?

[B]

I know someone who knows his children pretty well, but I've just. Out of respect for them, I haven't even asked. Yeah, I don't.

[A]

Because it's still.

[B]

I do feel for them.

[A]

Yes, of course you feel for them, because this is still their father.

[B]

Right.

[A]

They did not ask for this. I mean, my heart goes out to them, but it just goes to show that children have to suffer the consequences of their parents actions. So before you do something, look at your child and ask yourself, how much do I really love this kid?

[B]

Yeah. And they've got to be humiliated.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I will say I've seen like some social media people screenshot some of their social media and send it to me and they seem happy and fine.

[A]

Okay, well, maybe. And who knows what that relationship was like before this happened.

[B]

Maybe it's a relief. That's kind of what I'm thinking. Like finally it's over and we can just have our day in court and.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I'll say his girlfriend, though, is standing by him tooth and nail.

[A]

Well, yeah. Because God only knows what he has on her. Or God only knows how she participated in it. Not saying that she did, but if, you know, she did participate, it's probably in her best interest to. To turn quick because she will get an out if she gives the government what they need in order to see this through.

[B]

Right? Yeah, like. Like you said, I don't know if she participated in covering up evidence or hiding things or whatever, but it would behoove her to tell the truth. Tell the truth?

[A]

Yeah, to tell the truth and come out and tell anything that you know. I mean, again, I don't wish that on anyone, but at the same time, what's wrong is wrong.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Holy cow.

[B]

It's exciting though. I'm. Yeah, I'm really happy for her family and really her kids. I mean, when I spoke to her daughter, she was like, holy, Evan, we finally did it. So that was really sweet.

[A]

That has to be just. It has to make all of it worth it, you know, all the time and energy and money that you spent on this and to now see it to where it's at, it has to be just like a sense of relief.

[B]

It is. It's a relief. And I know I'm going to be dragged and dragged to the mud.

[A]

Well, you're already. Chances are you're probably going to be called to testify.

[B]

I've been told that's a high likelihood.

[A]

And are you prepared for that?

[B]

I am. I mean I have everything documented and a lot of people out there think that it's all entertainment and made up his attorney even, you know, he kind of trashed me in the podcast on the local news last week that I'm like slanderous and only doing this for entertainment and.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. So that's kind of the line they're going to go with.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I mean, I'll testify if I'm called.

[A]

Good. That. Wow. I. So. And even if you don't testify, will you be at the trial?

[B]

Oh, of course I'll be there April 1st.

[A]

It wouldn't shock me if they didn't try to have you removed from the trial.

[B]

I guess I'm media, so if they. If they want to say no media, but I'm not really sure how that works to be honest. Yeah, might have to check in.

[A]

Wow. Okay. Well, you're gonna have to keep us updated on all.

[B]

Absolutely will.

[A]

Because as of today he has been arrested. He is on house arrest. Five hundred thousand dollar bond. Which is crazy that it goes from 2 million to 500, 000, but okay. I mean.

[B]

And that's all. That's one thing I'll say is that's all up to the judge. A lot of folks were really upset with the sheriff, but I mean he did his job.

[A]

Yeah. Now it's up to the judge.

[B]

Yeah. The judge decides if he wants to reduce bond. And I thought it was nice of the sheriff though at the press conference he shouted out the podcast and myself.

[A]

That's awesome.

[B]

Um, because a lot of times law enforcement just won't even acknowledge no.

[A]

How they got.

[B]

Yeah, but people were really upset that he didn't mention me in the press release. And then about an hour later he did at the press conference. So it wasn't necessary. But you know, it's nice to get recognition and you know, people know that at least some of my work was very helpful.

[A]

Yes. Well, I'm super proud of you and this is amazing. I'm so happy we can give people an update on who actually killed Donna because that's what everyone has been asking. Who did it? Who did it? And now we can finally share that he has been indicted and charged and arrested. So one step closer. But as it gets closer to the trial, we will give updates and I definitely want to know what happens in April And I can even put in a few of my episodes. When we get those, text them to me and I will let people know. But this is absolutely insane. And who knows? I may even come. I love. I will go to aisle and like that would be.

[B]

I can tell you, you would be mobbed because after the first episode, everyone's texting me and DMing me like, oh my God, Savannah knows about our tiny little town.

[A]

And I'm like, yeah, that is hilarious.

[B]

So they're big fans of you.

[A]

While I almost went to a very high profile trial in New York and just from the media side of things and wanting to see and I like so badly wanted to report on it because I'm looking at it from more of a legal stance than like public perception and the view of things. But I decided not to go because I felt like I would. It would have just turned into a absolute shit show. But who knows?

[B]

Well, you're more than welcome.

[A]

Thank you. All right, guys. Well, there is your update on who killed Donna. So someone has been arrested and charged and now we are waiting on the trial.

[B]

If you haven't listened to Freeze Frame, check it out anywhere. You get podcasts.

[A]

And when does part two come out?

[B]

Everyone wants to know. I can't say because then I'm gonna lock myself into it.

[A]

Is there a timeline?

[B]

Yes, it is very close. And I'm deciding if I'm gonna do weekly episodes or just release all of part two at one time.

[A]

Okay, do I would do all part two at one time?

[B]

That's what I'm thinking.

[A]

Yeah. All part two at one time. So like within the next 30 days, 60 days, 90 days.

[B]

It's a selfish suggestion because you want to listen to it?

[A]

Yeah, I do.

[B]

So we're in the next couple months. I'll say that.

[A]

All right, I'm gonna. Guys, I'm gonna push him for you. Thank you for listening to this week's episode and I will keep you updated as I know more.

[B]

Thank you so much.

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