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Savannah Chrisley
I don't know if I'm prepared for the full send I'm about to do, honestly. Welcome back to this week's episode of Unlocked. I'm doing a solo because I feel like there's elephants in the room that clearly need to be addressed. I have allowed you guys in on my life, and that comes with all the highs and all the lows. I've been figuring out how to navigate this stage of my life because it sucks. It hurts. It's been about a month and a half since Robert and I broke up. So there it is. Robert and I broke up on March 6th. Not that I'm keeping track of dates or anything, but I have taken a lot of time to process things and truly grieve the loss of the relationship that I thought was gonna be where I was for the rest of my life. And I think what sucks that people really don't prepare you for, too, is when kids are involved, not only are you grieving the loss of the person you were in relationship with, but you're also grieving the loss of that relationship that you have with those children. All the times that you've shown up for them and birthdays and holidays and all the phone calls you got when they were sick and wanted you to show up and just all of those things. It really sucks. Fortunately, the conversations with the kids haven't stopped, which is such a weird place to be in. But when I got into a relationship with Robert, I also got into a relationship with his kids. And I vowed to always show up. Always, always be there. And I was not going to be another disappointment for them because they've had a lot. And I'm going to keep that promise. When they call, I'm going to answer. If they need me to show up, I will be there. Because regardless of me and Robert's relationship, I still love them. And I love them more than I dislike where Robert and I are at. I'm trying to navigate this in the best adult way possible. And that's why I'm starting out slow, because I'm trying to bite my tongue. And you all know that I am not a master at that. Over the past year and a half, I have gotten to sit and watch Robert truly show up. I saw him be one heck of a dad and show up for these children and show up for people in his life. Life, despite everything that was going on with him and his ex. I would love to say I don't want to give her the notoriety that she has so badly been seeking, but I feel like that's the only way to go. I will never. I don't think I will ever forgive her for what she has put Robert and the boys through. I don't believe that Robert and I would be where we were at today if she wouldn't have caused so much mass destruction. And it's really caused me to sit back and I feel like men always get the bad rap in relationships. It's always men do this, that whatever. Well, we as women can also cause a lot of destruction along the way. Way. It's just the truth of the matter. And that's what she did. She caused a lot of destruction and she absolutely destroyed a great man when it comes to his heart and his life, just all of it. She destroyed him. And he should have done a lot of work on himself before he and I met. He deserved to get to work through all of that pain and trauma so that he could move on with his life in a healthy manner. But unfortunately, I feel like, I don't know, we all serve our purpose in each other's lives, whether that's for a time, a season, a reason, whatever it may be. And I think I came along at a time in Robert's life to where he needed a little bit of hope. He needed some excitement, a sense of renewal, and he needed to be reminded that there can be love after chaos and after heartbreak and after destruction. And I believe that I showed that. I think I showed him that not only can there be love, but there can also be consistency, stability, and someone who's going to be by your side through it all. Because I was. I was by his side through every single thing. He and I had our little things here or there, but for the majority of our relationship, honestly, it. It was great. It was perfect. We were best friends. We had the best time. We laughed, we. We trusted each other, we loved each other. We. I'm. I try to sit here and pinpoint where it all went wrong. And in the midst of his ex's legal battle, there would be, you know, she had to stay in the Bahamas for a while. And so while she was there, life was great. It was. We were in our routines with not only Robert and I, but also the kids. And there was no drama. It was a drama free zone. And then when she would come back to the U.S. not only did she come back, but the chaos came back with her. And it's like she wanted to destroy everything in his path, her path, everyone. There was never any sense of care for another individual other than herself. And I say that because throughout a year and a half, I did everything in my power to protect those boys and to love on them and shield them. I never one time spoke poorly about her, ever, ever. I always sang her praises, and I always had hoped that she would do the work so that she could show up as the mother that those boys deserved. That was always my prayer for her. But I wouldn't say my prayer. My prayer never changed in that aspect because I always wanted them to have the love of their mother in a healthy way. I will. I still want that for them to this day. But I think a lot of. Like I said, I stay quiet. But if you guys remember, there was a Daily Mail article that caught all of us getting off of a plane in Key west for the kids spring break. And I knew I've been in this game for far too long. I knew where that had to have come from. The boys had just visited their mother. They, the youngest, told her what we were doing for spring break, which is fine. No kid should ever have to be held to saying something or not saying something. All that should ever be told is the truth. And so the little one let her know where we were going. And then the Daily Mail just happened to show up. And now she has admitted to being the one behind the Daily Mail article and them showing up on our vacation. And that is not protective, your children. That is once again causing chaos. And she didn't want me in the picture. There was a time to where she tried to get the courts to say I wasn't allowed around the children. There's just. I. I will never understand being the victim in circumstances that you created. So it sucks. It really, really sucks. Because when she was in the Bahamas, life was good. It was. And then when she came back to the U.S. it was turmoil. And I think with all the chaos that she brought her way or she brought our way, it was too much for Robert to handle. I know it was too much for him to handle. And so she got what she wanted. So you got what you wanted. It's that simple. You once again destroyed another thing in your life and other people's lives. And I will say one thing that I've learned throughout this process. Am I a saint? No, I'm not. I've known that. Have I made my mistakes? Most certainly I have. But in the midst of raising two children, the one thing I've learned is how grateful I am for the people that show up for them and for the people that love them. Because you can never have too many people in your children's lives that love them and care for them and show up for them. And that's what I've been in these three boys lives. And I don't get how as a mother you wouldn't want that for your children. You wouldn't want another individual to pour into them and love them and treat them with nothing but love. And that's mind boggling to me. I also, like I said, there's so many things I could say that I'm just trying to bite my tongue on. I have been telling you about how incredible Sono Bello is. 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He offered to say a prayer for Nick and his family and I was like, this is the type of person you want to spend the rest of your life with. Savannah says her boyfriend, 39, has stuff to work through before marriage. In fact, Robert's estranged wife is currently awaiting trial for allegedly plotting his murder. For now, Savannah and Robert are focused on their kids and get to be a good escape for each other, she says. A true gift. Robert told me after a few weeks, you weren't my first love and I wasn't yours, but we can be each other's last. So it definitely again this came out March 3rd and I got broken up with three days later, March 6th. So that was great ironic timing. And then so that was really hard for me because I'm going through this breakup. This is all over newsstands. Articles are being written online about me and Robert's plans for marriage and I mean he and I were full force in it, like seeing fertility doctors and talking about the future, our plans, all of these things. And he just realized, I think that there was a lot that he needed to work on. And he stated that he felt so much guilt for pulling me along throughout all of his chaos because he wasn't sure when it was going to end. And for anyone that's in his life to have to deal with his ex for the rest of their life is going to be a lot. So he says he did it because he loves me. I, I do know and believe that he loves me. It's just a hard pill to swallow. So this article came out. I got broken up with three days later. Then all the online articles are coming out and it was really hard for me. It was also hard for me to not just yell and be like hey, we're broken up now. This isn't true. Well, everything I said in the article is true, but we're just not together at this point in time, so that sucked. And I will never forget driving away from Robert's house, just sobbing hysterically in tears. I cried the whole way home. Seven, eight hours home. I just cried. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to say. None of it makes sense. Like, how can you say you love someone, you're in love with someone, but you can't be with them? Just all of was heartbreaking for me. And then I got home, I immediately text my therapist and was like, hey, I need to get in. I need to be in on the regular, please. And I start going to therapy. And I also. I think it was on the tail end of my ride home. I was on the phone with. Because I talked to Aaron at the very beginning. And then towards the end, I talked to Brittany Aldean. And because she had kind of. It's so funny how things happen, but she kind of been a part of our relationship from like the very beginning when we first started dating. And I told her what happened, she was like, savannah, you gotta change your number or block him, whatever. There can be no contact whatsoever. He has to realize how life is without you. And I have failed at that massively. Only because the middle one's birthday just came up and I do these big, like, balloons extravaganzas for their birthdays and Abidam. I was not going to let a birthday pass to her. I did not do it for him. I had just done it for the first two. So I'm gonna do it for him too. And I did it. I did his birthday celebration like I always would have. Chances are I'll probably do Easter celebrations too. Against everyone's advice to me, therapist, friends, whatever, just because I love them. And it's so hard for me to fathom not showing up for them. So, yeah, Brittany told me to cut all ties. Haven't done a great job at that. Robert and I, I mean, we've gone a while without speaking, but something will pop up and we'll check in or some odd reason. But we're not talking every day. We're not doing all of that. I think the hard part was him telling the boys that we broke up. It was honestly heartbreaking when it comes to the boys. Like the oldest. When he found out Robert and I broke up, oh my gosh, it was like heartbreaking to me. When I received messages that he Sent. And I'm like, oh, my God. Like, my anger immediately kicked in at being pissed off at Robert, because I'm like, how could you take them away from me? Me away from them? Like, it was just so hard to try to navigate. And like I said, they've gone through so much. I didn't want them to think I was just one more person walking away in their life, One more person disappointing them. I, over the past two and a half years, have suffered so much abandonment. I have two kids who have suffered so much abandonment. This was also another loss. So this was just, like, icing on the cake. Another person. Now we're at four. How many more do we have to go? And it was really, really tough. And I'm still trying to figure out how to navigate it. And I wrote Robert a bunch of letters, and I was gonna write them for longer than I actually did. And then something clicked in me. Something clicked. And part of me realized that I don't know if he ever had the mental or emotional capacity to truly worry about how certain things in his life were affecting me. And we're all. We're only capable of so much as human beings. So I don't fault him for that. But something clicked in me one day, and it was like, you know what? I want my feelings to matter. I want to be a priority. I want to be a thought. And I'm going to need to end these letters right here where I'm at. And I wrote one final goodbye letter. And I. Yeah, when I wrote it, I felt like, all right, this is my closure. Do I. I don't know what the future holds. Honestly, it's a tough one to swallow because it's not like either of us did anything wrong. It's outward influences that have affected our relationship so poorly. And then, of course, once we break up, I get noticed we'd been broken up for, I guess, a month. And then I get notified that there's going to be another People magazine article come out. This time, it's a cover all about her and this fiasco. But. And I don't even know why I'm doing this to try to protect her, but, you know, but of course. Who's on the COVID Me. Me and Robert. All about our relationship and inside Robert's new life with girlfriend, Savannah Chrisley. And I will never forget. I was coming back from D.C. when I get the call from my publicist that was like, savannah, there's gonna be a People magazine cover coming out. You're gonna be on it. It's going into all of her mess. But. But they're also mentioning you. And I was like, you have got to be kidding me. And when that happened, I reached out to Robert. Cause he and I had not been talking, and I was like, a little heads up would have been great. I don't think he actually knew it was happening at that point in time. And so this has been really hard for me just seeing that, all right, people are still thinking we're together. They're still, you know, writing stories as if we are and we're not. We're not together. We barely speak.
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Robert Shiver
We.
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Savannah Chrisley
Like I said, I'm grieving the loss of what I thought the rest of my life was going to look like. And in the midst of healing from all of this, I've learned a lot of things myself. I have learned that little comments do leave a mark. Whether that was me saying, oh, I'm never going to move to Thomasville, or I'm never going to do this or never going to do that. I allowed my fear to speak through the words that I was saying because I was afraid of what the future was going to hold. I didn't know how things were going to play out with his divorce. I. I was scared. I was. And that was never, of course, if it meant like living in Thomasville, everyone being under one roof, I can do that. But I said a lot of things out of fear. And when I said those things, those caught, that caused him to close off a little bit each time as well. So I have learned now to watch my words more carefully and never say never. So this whole thing sucks. It really does. I've been so heartbroken trying to figure out how I get through to the other side of it. But I'm handling it like I handle everything else with a little grit and strength. And I'm learning to have more forgiveness for myself. And no more dating men who aren't officially divorced yet. I will give you that little piece of advice because again, for people that don't know the backstory, Robert filed for divorce. You know, it's weird. He filed for divorce April 6th of April 6th or 7th of 2023. And this article, this magazine came out April 7th. Yeah, she. He filed the six, she filed the seventh. Yeah, right. So he filed for divorce April of 23. We met August of 23. And so he had already been filed for divorce. And he's no further along in his divorce today than he was the day that I met him. Which is absolutely insane. And that's whole other thing. Yeah, I know as Nevermind. I'm not gonna say that. See, look. Look at Jesus coming through me and cutting that tongue off. But as of today, I'm doing pretty good. Like it sucks. I miss the boys. I am still grieving the loss of the life I thought I was gonna live, trying to figure out how to navigate all of this and just be a better version of myself. I'm really proud of myself for how I've handled it because I'm not jumping from one relationship to the next. I'm truly taking time to grieve and figure out like what I want differently next go round. If you're running a business, then you know that every time you miss a call, you're leaving money on the table. When every customer conversation matters, you need a phone system that keeps up and helps you stay connected. That's why you need OpenPhone. OpenPhone is the number one business phone system that streamlines and scales your customers communications. It works through an app on your phone or computer, so no more carrying two phones or using a landline. 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With the name your price tool from Progressive, you can be a better budgeter and potentially lower your insurance bill too. You tell Progressive how much you want to pay for car insurance and they'll help find you options within your budget. Try it today at progressive.com, progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates Price and Coverage Match Limited by state law not available in all states. I'm in such an odd place in life right now and I think a lot of this too is with like therapy and things coming up and but there can at times there can be a harshness about me just due to life circumstances and the crap that happens. And throughout this breakup with Robert, I've realized I'm a lot softer than I thought maybe I ever was. And it does feel really good to feel vulnerable. It feels good to feel vulnerable. And as much as it sucks that he broke my heart, I'm so happy that I felt a love that was so amazing that it could break me. And that feeling is scary for a lot of people. But for me, I welcome that now because it was so amazing. And obviously, all my friends are like, yep, get back in the dating world. Like, go. Just. Just go have a drink with someone or just go have dinner, whatever. And their. I have. But it hadn't done anything for me. Hadn't, like, you know, got me excited or. Cause I feel like I just need to be alone for a little while. I mean, it's been a month and a half, like, and I'm still trying to go through the motions. I will say that there was one instance to where I met someone just, like, randomly, and I was so, Like, I just wasn't looking for it, but, like, it renewed my hope in my future again. I'm gonna be single for a little while. I need that. I want to focus on my work. I want to focus on filming this new show, real estate, getting mom and dad home, paving my way in the political field. There's so many things I want to do, so I need to be single. But it did make me feel good to feel like, just hope restored that there will be light at the end of this heartbreak. And what I've realized is I'm a sucker for love. Like, I love love. I love being in love. I love having someone to share all these moments with and have fun with and just live life with. Life is so short. Over the past two years, I have realized how short it really is. And I want to be in love. I want to get married. I want to have kids. Like, I close my eyes at night. Like, I want that life. I want my own little family unit, and I want my best friend. So that's really the update. There is no. I think what's so crazy about the whole thing with Robert and I is there is no hatred for each other or it's like all the outside noise that I'm so frustrated with. And I feel like I'm in that anger phase of this breakup now. And I'm trying so hard not to be because I do love Robert. I love the boys. I will always love them. I will always show up for them. I'm not going to be another disappointment. I just. Unfortunately, circumstances are what dictated the rise and fall of me and Robert's relationship. It's that simple. So to all the magazines not together, it's over, it's done. So. And yeah, I was petty on this bachelorette trip I went on and I posted Mystery Man. That was just really me being petty. So I will address that too. It's. I'm always gonna be me. Petty party of one will always be very much present. So that's really where we're at. Over the past two and a half years, I feel like I've put everyone else first. So in the midst of me and my therapy with working through Robert and I breaking up, I think I'm also working on a lot of anger and resentment that I have just towards life as a whole, our situation as a whole. I have been fighting for my parents, fighting for children, fighting for justice. I've been doing all of these things. And I think what was the most heartbreaking thing about me and Robert's breakup was I just wanted someone to fight for me. And I didn't get that. And that's okay. It could have been maybe he didn't want to. Maybe he wasn't capable of it. Maybe. I don't know. But I think that's what I've realized is, like, I want someone who's gonna fight for me. I want to be a priority, and I just want to be happy. Like, I want to get my laugh back and myself smile back and just I want to feel like I'm walking on clouds. And I feel like I deserve that after the past two and a half years of my life. So now we just stay open. What I was not going to do was allow this to harden me. Going through life like I'm enjoying right now, going to dc, Being involved in the political world. I was in DC and it was for a women's event at the White House. And afterwards, there's this restaurant across the street called Old Ebbott's Grill. Amazing. Love it. It's like a staple in D.C. they're open, I think, to like 4am But I went for like a late lunch, early dinner, cocktail hour, whatever you want to call it. And I was sitting up at the bar because it was just me. And there were these three guys sitting next to me. And the one on the very end was a doctor. And so you know me, I'll talk to anyone. So we're talking and the doctor just keeps, like, making eye contact, talking. And his Name's Nick. And he looked so much like Nick. It was weird. Like, just that same dark complexion. Like, I feel like I've seen Nick show up my neck show up, like, so many times. Like, just in weird ways in my life recently. Like, it's kind of like he's like, huh. Like, jokes on you. Like, just funny, messing with me. But I was talking to this guy probably for, like, an hour. Like, we were all just shooting the, like, having fun. I was. Had my champagne and oysters. Great afternoon, if you ask me. And then he leaves. And he was like, it was so nice meeting you. And when I say he's a doctor, he's like. Does, like, he's doctor, but, like, runs some kind of stuff for the Chicago Fire Department, New York Fire Department. Like, he's. You can tell, pretty brilliant. And so I go. After he leaves, the server comes up to me and says, because I asked for the bill. And they just hand me this note from this guy, and it just says, Nick puts his phone number and says. And the note says, make your own luck. And I was like, okay. Like, this is. I mean, okay, I like this. Like, But I text him, and I was like, thank you so much. Like, you did not have to pay for my bill. Can I please send you my. Like, I just felt bad, but, like, I really did enjoy my conversation with him, but I was so wrapped up in, like, me and Robert's breakup that I didn't really give him the time of day. And so now that I'm sitting here, I'm like, all right, I need to make that right. Like, I need to reach out and say, hey, X, Y, and Z was going on in my life. And I'm so sorry if I came across as rude, because I don't want to come across that way. I was just so caught up in it. And then I got that. I was like, wait. People can be sweet and nice and, like, I haven't lost my touch. I'm getting close to 30, and I'm still, like, someone stole across from the bar, wants to buy me a drink. Like, great. So I don't know. I think I'm just in my me era. These little things along the way are just giving me hope of, like, go have a drink with someone. Like, enjoy your life. You can be about you a little bit. You don't have to be about everyone else. So throughout it, I've realized I can be more vulnerable, and I actually enjoy it. Vulnerability is kind of hot, I think. And I've become a little more self Aware, learning to give myself some grace. And I just realized I love love. I want to be married, I want to have kids. I want to have my own little life. So Robert and I are broken up. It's been a sad month and a half. Not gonna lie. I think I'm gonna take down the photos of my in my house now. So that's where we're at. They're still up. See, old me would have destroyed everything. Like destroyed. But I didn't. So we're making progress. So we gotta take photos down and just start moving on and living life. And that's where we're at. So until next time, I'm probably gonna get a wrath honestly after doing this podcast. But I didn't say anything that was not true, that was not factual, that I did not have documentation to back it up with. So, yeah, until next time, who knows, maybe I'll have a love life update. No, I'm totally kidding. Definitely not doing that anymore. Next time I saw a quote and it's like the next time you realize I'm dating someone, you're going to see me walk down the aisle. I'm going to try to stick to that. But we know I probably won't. No. Well, now I think next podcast we need to do like a friends of talking about all the my dating fiascos and stuff because I think that would be really funny. Oh, I had update on mom and dad real quick. Just so you guys hear what's going on, I posted on my Instagram and tick tock a video of Alex explaining to you all the recent discovery that the prosecutors have spoken to the judge, which cannot happen. That is ex parte communication. So I will play it just so you guys can get a feel of what's actually going on. All right, Alex, so what is this?
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Robert Shiver
So even now we're two years after your parents were sentenced, there's more examples of the government doing things they just absolutely shouldn't be doing. We have an email here from the court clerk that explains that the assistant U.S. attorneys, the prosecutors on this case, reached out to Judge Ross. And what that means is they literally individually called the court's chambers without us involved to have a conversation about one of the issues we raised on appeal. That's called an ex party contact. It is prohibited by ethical rules. It's prohibited by the court's rules. But apparently the folks in Atlanta just, you know, apparently that's not something they abide by.
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Savannah Chrisley
And what do we plan to do with this?
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Robert Shiver
Well, after the current appeal, we're going to have to raise this again as another issue where the prosecutors have committed misconduct.
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Savannah Chrisley
All right, well, here we go. It's right here. You can see. So there we are. As I put on my Instagram caption. So let's get this straight. Judge Eleanor Ross increased Julie Chrisley supervised release from three years to five years at resentencing. And a few weeks back we were copied on an email that there has been ex parte communication with the ausa. That's a blatant ethical violation and a text textbook example of prosecutorial misconduct. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. Under Rule 43 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, a defendant has the right to be present in sentencing and any material modification to sentence it post judgment, especially one that increases punishment, requires notice, a hearing. Any communication outside the presence of the defense ex parte is a violation of Canon 3A4 of the Code of Conduct for US Judges, which explicitly prohibits judges from engaging in off the record conversations with one party about a pending matter. The fact that the AUSA had to reach out to Judge Ross to clarify this only exposes the irregularity. This isn't a clerical error error. It's an illegal retroactive enhancement done in the shadows with zero transparency. Welcome to Fulton county, where the Constitution goes to die in silence and judges legislate from the bench. So there's that. We've got the email to where it says the AUSA has reached out to Judge Ross regarding the amount of time Julie Chrisley was sentenced to supervised release right there from the judge's clerk. So there's that update again. Fulton county, where the Constitution goes to die. So not only has my relationship died in this episode of Unlocked with Savannah, but clearly the Constitution has died in Fulton county on this episode too. So until next time, hopefully I have a better update for you. But now we're in my me era, so let's go and we'll choose maybe someone who's divorced next.
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Robert Shiver
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