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Chase
this week's episode of Unlocked. Normally you will see either Just mom with me on the podcast or just dad, but today we have them both. So pray for me. Welcome, mom and dad.
Mom
Thank you. Thank you.
Chase
So we just came up on a year since you both got full presidential pardons from President Trump. It's been a year.
Dad
Yes.
Chase
It's kind of insane to look back and think, you know, we just had Mother's Day last. Mother's Day was a little different than this Mother's Day, so we're definitely gonna dive deep into all of those things. We're also gonna talk about dad's new business venture, Good guy rx, and also Good girl rx, to where they both are now coexisting under one roof. But his is for all things. You know, for your husband, your son, your boyfriend, your friend, whoever it is. So when we talk about that, all things guys. Yes. So when we talk about that, you'll definitely want to listen if you want to help him. But going into things. Oh, and too, it's not all going to be serious because we are going to have you rate Some of that Met Gala looks okay.
Dad
But don't be asking me nothing about people that I don't know, because I just talked shit last week and said about Megan the Stallion.
Chase
Megan the Stallion.
Dad
Megan thee stallion. Getting her toe blowed off. And. And then I find out because my friend Chaplain Dixon sends me this whole thing, and she said, you understand that Megan wants to do an assisted living. She wants to do this on open trust. She says she's really got a lot going on. So, Megan, let me say to you that due to my ignorance of not knowing who you are, I may have made light of the fact that you only have nine toes. I did not mean it that way. I think that's a horrific situation. But you hand it well, you got a Bentley out of it. So I apologize. Okay. Go ahead.
Chase
So, look, we're already off to a hot start. Making wrongs. Right. This is great.
Dad
Right?
Chase
So it's been a year.
Mom
Yes.
Chase
What does a year out actually feel like?
Dad
I mean, certainly you are appreciative that you're home and that. And I'm speaking for me, I'm grateful that I'm home and that I can go and do everything that I've always done and that I can work every day and be productive. But I'm not going to lie, some of the shit that y' all put us through, still, my camp had a little bit less stress at times.
Chase
There's no way. First off, I dealt with that camp, too. There was a lot of stress.
Mom
A lot.
Dad
Yeah. And y' all are a lot of stress, too. But go ahead.
Chase
Excuse me.
Mom
Well, I'm going to say that, yes, I am so appreciative of it. I am also. I. I stop and think every day how, you know, so many people that come out of prison, you know, they have to fight to even get more freedoms. You know, whether it's at a halfway house or home confinement, which is so confining, you know, I mean, it. It really is a lot. And so I don't take that for granted because we were able to come home and step right back into our lives.
Dad
Right.
Mom
And I think that's. That's definitely something that I think about more and more every day, especially when I talk to people who are just getting out or who are struggling in this, trying to get out of halfway house, trying to, you know, find their way and trying to make it work. You know, you try to rebuild relationships, but you're on home confinement and you can't leave your house.
Chase
Yeah.
Mom
You know, and so it's Just, it's so crazy. The system still is just so broken because a lot of these people have way more freedom in a halfway house than they do in home confinement. And it should be the other way around, you know, it should be this tear down process, you know, prison, halfway house, home confinement. But it's not. They have way more freedoms in the halfway houses than you do when you get to home confinement. So that's definitely something that we need
Dad
to work on, I think. Yes. And I mean, I agree 100% on that also too.
Chase
But as we're going throughout this podcast, when I ask you questions about you, I want you to keep it focused on you.
Mom
Well, it's hard to do.
Dad
Well, I can get the hell up, walk out, shut up. I have quit better jobs than this.
Mom
No, but I'm saying I am super grateful to be have been able to celebrate Mother's Day because last Mother's Day, I wasn't home, you know, and that is a hard day. You know, any holiday is a hard day when you're not with your family and the people that you love.
Dad
So, yeah, I was working out this morning with someone who's in the entertainment industry, and he asked me in the gym, he said, how are you doing? And I says, I am better than I deserve. And he said, well, I don't know about that. He says, I think that we're all supposed to be blessed.
Chase
I love that.
Dad
And I literally had my trainer to send me a text with that quote, because, you know, who's there with me when I go work out. And, you know, he. He's very quiet, doesn't talk a lot. And when he said, I don't know about that, he says, I think that we're all meant to be blessed.
Chase
I love that.
Dad
And I thought, wow. And I came home and I told your mom, I said, this is what he said. And it truly resonated with me because really, we should all be blessed.
Chase
Well, I just had a woman come on my podcast and she was. She got lung cancer in her 40s, never smoked a cigarette in her life, but she started up an organization to where cancer doesn't care. Like cancer doesn't care if you're rich, if you're poor, if you're Democrat, Republican. Cancer does not care.
Dad
Neither does prison.
Chase
Exactly. So what did you feel like? Or what did you think the first year out was going to look like? And what was the most wrong version of that that you had in your head?
Mom
Well, you know, for me, I thought that I would be coming out of Prison by myself. Like, your dad would not be with me because his sentence was longer than mine. So in my mind, I had already, like, played this. This whole scenario out that, okay, I got to get out. You know, of course, I will be able to talk to him, so I'll be able to kind of follow his lead on the plan that we set forth so that I'm ready when he gets out, that, you know, I will try to get things going however I can. And so it was just so different because we were able to. To be out at the same time. So I guess that was the biggest thing for me.
Chase
Yeah, well, because before we ever were on the pardon route, all she would ever talk about was, well, when I get out, then I can go visit him, and then I can do this, and I can do that. And she. That was the only image of life that she had when she got out was, all right, well, then I can go visit. I can do these things that you're doing.
Dad
I think that the biggest thing for
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Dad
is that how real it is, how we really have just jumped back into our life. You know, we're really back in the same thick of things and, you know, negotiating shows and doing all that kind of stuff, you know, which I had said, no.
Chase
You literally just said, no, I'm not coming back to tv because he wants to act like he's too cool.
Dad
What I said on Two Sons and Me was exactly what you and I had discussed, that television was not my priority and that I did not want to do what we had already done.
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Dad
And so when I said, I'm not ready to come back to television yet, I'm not ready because it's not laid out the right way yet.
Chase
Yeah. So it's definitely very different than it used to be.
Dad
Yes. And I want it to be. I want to be able to give the folks that tune into us a true glimpse into our everyday life. I want them to. I want to carry them along or.
Mom
I don't know about that now what?
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Chase
That's a lot.
Dad
If I've got to see it, they need to see it. Maybe that'll cause y' all to be on better behavior, y'.
Mom
All.
Dad
Well, they get it from somewhere.
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
The. I want what the content that we create going forward to be truly 100% authentic. You know, when you are. When you get married, I want to be able for that to be authentic. When you have a child, I want that to be an authentic moment, and I don't want it staged And I don't want, you know, go stand over here and go do that. Let's just capture it the way that it is.
Chase
Exactly.
Dad
And so that's what I meant when I said I'm not coming back to television. I'm not coming back to television now
Mom
in the same format.
Dad
Same format. So what we're doing, what I'm working on now, is a different format.
Mom
Yep.
Dad
So I think for me, stepping back into our life, and I just said this to your person yesterday, we were talking that there are still moments for me that I believe it's ptsd, because I will. Things will be going so, so good, and then I'll remember a situation, and then it causes me to, like, really take a deep breath and be like, but that's not going to happen.
Mom
That's.
Dad
That's over.
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Dad
So I do still have those moments, and they hit me at the most inopportune times. But I think that another thing was that I wasn't prepared to come home and everyone be doing their own thing.
Julie (Hospice Nurse)
Yeah.
Dad
That was a big change for me.
Mom
Yeah.
Chase
When you left, we were all still doing everything together.
Dad
Yeah. So that was a big. That was a big change for me. But now I look at that, and we've talked about this, at what a blessing it is, because now your mother and I are at an age and at a space in our life to where y' all are grown. If you want to be on the COVID of a tabloid for doing stupid shit, that's on you. Because all I'm going to say is, I tried to raise them right, and if they step out of that, then that's on y'.
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Dad
But your mother and I, we have plans for us.
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Dad
And I look forward to implementing those plans. I want to be a wonderful, you know, grandparent. I want to help take care of my grandchildren, and I want to have a wonderful relationship with them. But I also want to have a wonderful marriage. I want to have a wonderful friendship with my wife. I want us to. Because that's my person.
Julie (Hospice Nurse)
Yeah.
Dad
And I want to be able to know. I know that I can trust this one. I mean, this one went. No offense, Megan, but she went 10 toes down. But, you know, I'm just saying. So that's my person, and, you know, I want to respect that, and I want us to go and do the things that she and I, when we were young and that we always talked about one day. One day. Well, our days are running out.
Mom
And I think people, you know, listen. Decisions we make, we made them Right. So we're not saying that we, we didn't make these decisions and we've lived them, but we had children so young that. And we have been raising children for so long that, you know, I mean, I was 21 when we met and you were 21 when you had your first child. So for 30 something years, we've been raising kids and still raising them. Like, Chloe's just 13. And I mean, so we have, we have done our time.
Dad
Don't you think, though, we've done our time. You know, from my. And this is strictly from my perspective, don't you feel like that you and I are seeing different sides of each other that we've never seen?
Chase
Yeah.
Mom
I mean, I think as you age and you evolve and you just start seeing things differently, and I think for you, there's been some letting go of some control from, like, the kids and just what you just said, that they're older and they're. They're adults, and that's good. Bad or indifferent, you know, whether they make good decisions or bad decisions, they aren't ours to carry anymore.
Julie (Hospice Nurse)
Right.
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Chase
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Chase
And this is obviously coming from the outside looking, but would you say that y' all went through kind of a rough patch once Chase and I like moved out. Right. And like you're saying your identity's always been in having your children and investing in your children and what we're doing and you never missed an event or so?
Mom
I don't think so because we were still working together every day, you know, so it wasn't the traditional family, you know, progression how most people go away to college. You know, I'm really experiencing it more with Grayson because, you know, when I left. No, but when we left, he was 16. You know, he was still at home. I was still doing everything for him with him. And then we come back and he's in college.
Dad
You know, you're still doing everything, and he won't.
Mom
I don't see Grayson ever, like, living permanently with us again.
Dad
As he put you in your place, you know, like three weeks ago with the house in Texas, she said, we don't. I was looking at one property, and I said, this one, I think would be great because Savannah would have her space. Great. She said, we don't need to be buying a house for them to have their space.
Chase
She says again, that's. That's Harvey.
Dad
And I said, how did I respond?
Mom
That's not true. That's not what I said. I didn't say that. I didn't say it that way.
Dad
Did you? Come on.
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Mom
And I'm not lying. You clearly did. I'm not lying, but we don't have to have. You don't have to have your own room. You have a guest room. You're 30 years old.
Dad
I don't care. You're still my child.
Chase
I want to be able to leave my stuff and know nobody's gonna take it.
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Dad
And what if she gets pissed off at her person? Then she. I'm siding with her no matter what it is. So then she needs to come to her room.
Mom
I want to have a place. We need more bedrooms now than we
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Dad
Grayson calls in the midst of us looking, and I said, I found this one house, which would be great. It gives you a whole suite for you. I says, but your mom says that you're not going to be moving back in with us after you finish. He said, what is wrong with her? Where does she think I'm going? I mean, yeah, I'm probably going to have another place, too, but, I mean, I'm going to have a home with y'.
Mom
All.
Dad
And I turned, looked her, and I said, we're going with the bigger one.
Chase
It's like Spanky's dad.
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Dad
I literally said to her the other day, I said, spanky dad. She did some dumb shit. And I said, spanky dad. I mean, literally.
Chase
Do the listeners know the Spanky dad story?
Dad
No, we're not going to get that.
Chase
You have to for them to understand it.
Dad
I have a cousin who she. My mother took her when it was her. My mother's brother's child, and took her when she was, like, 3 years old. And she had a speech impediment, and we had this little dog, and his name was Spanky from the Little Rascals. And her job every day was to go feed Spanky. Well, one morning she gets up and goes at you to feed him, and he's dead as a doornail. And she just comes back in, no emotion, nothing. She said, spanky, dead. Don't feed him no more.
Mom
And it's not funny.
Dad
That's the Spanky story.
Chase
That's the second. But that's literally.
Dad
She has a Stanky moment at least three times a day.
Chase
Like, just because we're older, it's like we have no ties to her.
Mom
That's not.
Dad
That's all right. You're tied to me.
Mom
That is not true.
Dad
Now, you do sometimes come across that way.
Mom
I went in this morning, separated her laundry, did. Folded a load.
Dad
We're not talking about that. You don't do. No, we're talking about that you have emotionally.
Mom
Yeah, that's not true. That's not true.
Dad
Because you say to me, todd, let them go.
Chase
Do you think she's always been this way or that it was after prison that she emotionally detached?
Dad
Well, I think that to know none of. I don't think that any of her. Any of our children know their mother the way that I know her. And you're not supposed to. Yeah, but I think that your mother became a mother at a time in her life to where she had emotionally detached from things in her own life of growing up. And so it took a long time. And. And I say this because, you know, I talked about it with Nick. I talked about it several times. Because you're a little bit lippy like you. You today are very much mouthy like your mother used to be.
Chase
No, I'm a lot better.
Dad
You're a lot better, but you still not. You still got a ways to go. But your mother, when we first got married, she was. I am woman. Hear me roar.
Chase
Hold on. You know what my therapist said about that, by the way, the other day? You'll love this saying. Hold on, I wrote it down.
Dad
If she wrote it down, it's gonna be something in her favor. And then she forgot the other part.
Chase
If not as bad as I used to be, is still unhealthy. I'm not there yet.
Dad
I love that.
Chase
And then the devil that I know is better than the heaven I don't issue is, is you're still dancing with the devil.
Dad
I love those. I love those. I think for your mother, the question was, do I think she's always been this detached? I don't think Your mother's detached. I think that she views it as if she puts this here and closes it up, then it can't hurt her anymore. She doesn't have to feel that loss. She doesn't have to feel separated, that. But because she's still got it over here in this box. I have compartmentalized everything in my life, my whole life. You do the same thing.
Chase
Well, I look at what serves me and what doesn't.
Dad
But you got to make sure that before you pack it up that you've unpacked it.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
And I don't think. I think there's still things that you haven't unpacked correctly. I mean, it's a prime example of what you just went through last week when you were so offended by something. Right. So that's not been properly unpacked.
Mom
Right.
Dad
And so you. She packs things up in her heart and. And that's it.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
I can tell you that I felt like that she was one of the toughest eggs to crack when I first got with her, because there was this situation with this Susan Smith or whatever who had these kids that she drowned her kids in South Carolina.
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Dad
This woman, she drunk a long time ago.
Chase
This just went in a totally different kid.
Dad
But I'm going to tell you, she. This woman, her name was Susan Smith, and she drowned her, put her children in a car, drove the car off a landing and let them drown. And I remember sitting in a room and we were all weeping about this because we're watching it on the news, and it was a spanky moment. And it was a spanky moment, and everyone. Everyone was crying. And she goes, y' all don't even know that woman. Are we going to eat, Mom? And I. And I was. And I'm already in this. Right? And I went,
Mom
well, they were just, like, taking it to. I mean, how do you say you
Chase
take that Kid's died, Mom, I would.
Mom
Now, I didn't have children then, but today I have children. But if I. Today I would be, like, weeping on the floor. Yes, but then he already had kids, so he knew, like, I never had
Dad
kids, but I was kind of like, I need to sleep with one eye open. And. But when she had Chase, when she. The moment she found out that when you were pregnant. She got pregnant before we were married, change things. And she came to me and said, I have something to tell you. She says, I don't expect you to do anything more than what you want to do, because I know you've already been thrown in this situation. That I'm getting ready to tell you. She says, but I'm pregnant. And she says, and before we even have a conversation, I'm keeping my baby. That was straightforward.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
And I looked at you and said, then we're going to get married. Because I wanted to marry her anyway. And because when I tell you it was the. She's the only woman I've ever been in love with in my life. Best sex I've ever had.
Chase
Oh, my God.
Dad
Best emotional attachment that I've ever had.
Chase
I'm all set. Thank you.
Dad
You need to know that. You need to know mom and daddy's had a life.
Chase
Okay.
Dad
And so when she became pregnant, there was a softening even. Even after she became pregnant. But when she had him, it was like the evil side of her had kind of been turned to about a 70, 70%. And then when she had you not, it didn't change a whole lot because, you know, you've always been, you know, I had you. And she. With each birth, though, don't you think it changed for you?
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
Because then she became more emotional.
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
You know, she was more sensitive to things with children. And like when you do something and I go the hell off and I'm freaking out about it or whatever. If you notice, she's calm.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
The reason for that doesn't mean that I love you more. It just means she understands your situation from a female perspective.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
To where I can't. I look at you, say, how stupid are you? You are this. You are the superior sex. How can you be this dumb?
Chase
Yeah. Real, real healthy way of communicating.
Dad
She looks at it and says,
Julie (Hospice Nurse)
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Dad
you now know, so you know you won't do that again. That's her way.
Chase
Yeah. But a lot healthier.
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Dad
I do think that. That she has changed and she has mellowed and she has softened. But I don't think that she is detached because she worries about y' all not being around. She worries about how often are we going to see you. So she.
Chase
You worry about that more.
Dad
Tell her, no, I don't. I don't have that as much as I used to. Not that you ask about what has changed. That is the one thing that I don't think would have ever happened had I not been unfortunately incarcerated. That forced me to have to. To understand how I was going to have to live without you. And now I'm okay with it. I'm okay with, like, do you think
Chase
that she's more worried about it? But I'm trying to figure out the best way to put this.
Dad
She's getting ready to assume.
Chase
Just say no. That she's more worried about it for those that would maybe struggle more than the ones that wouldn't. Like, she's more. She's not as worried about being close to me as she would be maybe some others.
Dad
Well, now, again.
Mom
Okay, well, y' all are having this conversation as if I'm not sitting here. So I am sitting here. So let me just speak. You know what? I think it's twofold. Yes. I worry about being away from you. Not worry. It's different. And which is a good thing because I don't have to worry about you. Yeah, I know.
Dad
I'm going to say something that I grew up resenting.
Mom
I know I'm going to miss being with you. That's the thing. Like, I'm going to miss being able to just walk into your house and start doing laundry or drop something off for you.
Julie (Hospice Nurse)
That.
Mom
Or drop something off for you or pick something up or meet at the mall. That's what I'm going to miss. Yes. I worry about the others not being close to them if they need me. Yes. So there is that.
Chase
Because why do you look like you're going to cry?
Mom
I don't know. See, I'm getting emotional.
Dad
Told you there was a heart under that.
Mom
Still, it's different. It's for different reasons, you know, like you. It's just because you're not going to be here.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
And. And don't.
Mom
I mean. Because I'm not going to be here.
Dad
Right. But don't you. I think that. I think it's a healthier place for us to be in.
Chase
Oh, yeah.
Dad
Because now when you say I'm going so and so. Okay. Send me a text. Let me know that you're okay.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
I'll check in with you at night.
Mom
Does that mean we don't still worry about you? Because, yeah, I worry about you when you're all over the world and.
Dad
Right.
Mom
Doing whatever. Like, oh, my God, does she know she's. You know, is she paying attention to. I mean, I text you those things. Pay attention to your surroundings. Look, don't be out at night, blah, blah, blah.
Dad
You know, that's just spanky moments, too.
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
You ain't the only one that cornered.
Mom
Spanking. Right.
Dad
She's got a lot of spanky moments.
Mom
And you will understand that when you become a parent. Like, you never stop worrying.
Dad
I think that because what she was getting ready to say, and I said, here comes something that I grew up with that I resented. I don't have to worry about you, Ty, because you're always going to do the right thing. Yeah, well, because I do the right thing doesn't mean that you don't still have to worry about me. It doesn't mean that you don't. That you shouldn't be thinking, well, wonder how he's feeling today or wonder how she's feeling there.
Mom
You're right.
Dad
I wonder how you're right.
Mom
You're right. You're 100% right.
Dad
I will say that you focus your energies on the lost sheep. It's just like the shepherd.
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
When all of them are going in one direction, but the one that was lost is the one that he goes looking for. So I think that you still, as a. As a parent, you are a form of a shepherd. You're looking for that lost child. But that doesn't mean that you love that lost child more than you love the one that's like me and you, you know, achievers.
Chase
But I also feel like before, it definitely affected me more versus now. And I think maybe that's because I do have my own life and I am happy in my own personal relationship that I'm not looking for that validation. Validation right from you.
Mom
Yeah. I think it's Just growing up.
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Mom
I think you're just growing up and I think maturing.
Chase
No, it does piss me off at times. So I'm like.
Dad
But where you are in your life, you know, I don't agree with everything that you say and I'm never going to agree with everything that you say because I think you're full of shit on some things and in other things, I'll ride with you.
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Dad
But I think that where you are in your life, this is the high season.
Chase
Yeah.
Mom
Right, Right.
Dad
But darling, you ain't going to have high season for the rest of your life.
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Dad
So my hopes for you is that you know what the low season looks like.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
So you've lived it. So that's going to prepare you. Because God says that everything that he puts in front of you is preparation for what's coming.
Mom
Right.
Dad
So you need to know that high season is not, is not lasting for any. For anyone.
Mom
Right.
Chase
I'm gonna make my high season last as long as I possibly can.
Mom
And I.
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Mom
And when you have more than one child, you will see that. That.
Dad
Yeah. Cuz we don't ever get a high season. Soon as we start thinking we getting a high season, they get a low season.
Mom
We always in the rice fields where
Dad
it's just water ditch with all of them.
Mom
Yeah.
Chase
Tell us how you really feel.
Dad
Well, I'm just. I'm just saying that as parents, there's never a time.
Mom
I say this all the time. There's never a time when y', all, everybody's doing good and there's never a time when everybody's getting along with.
Dad
No.
Chase
Ever.
Mom
Never. There is never a time when he, y', all, him and his children, everybody's getting along. Never. No, it's never happened. We know we are. If we are all getting short lived,
Chase
we're anxious because we're not sure if we're the next one.
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
Well, let's. Let's unpack that. Oh God. Let's unpack that. Because I'm not. I'm not going to take that. I am loyal to all of you.
Mom
Yeah.
Chase
100.
Dad
Which ultimately puts me in the middle of all the shit.
Chase
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Mom
So I'm not.
Dad
We're not saying that when something, when you tell me something, does anything you ever tell me come back to bite you?
Mom
No.
Dad
When Chase tells me something, nothing's going to come back to bite him or.
Chase
No, it does come back to bite him because unfortunately he doesn't just tell you. He tells the world.
Dad
He needs to go to work for tmz. But at any rate, at the end of the day, I love all of y'. All. I don't love any of y' all more than I do the others.
Julie (Hospice Nurse)
I like.
Dad
No, I don't. I like y'.
Mom
All.
Dad
I have different seasons with y'.
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Chase
He would save my life over the rest of them.
Dad
I taught you how to swim. The. For me, each of y' all give me something extra.
Mom
Like, I don't like something different.
Dad
Yes. Yes. Because Chase is funnier than you are. Chase has a great personality that is just, like, sucks the air of the room when he's on top of his game name. You are absolutely gorgeous. You can carry your. You can walk into any room and speak to anyone and speak intelligent, intelligently on what it is that you're talking.
Chase
You literally just told me, like, a day or two ago that I'm constantly making you laugh, so I would say that I'm funny.
Dad
See? See, I gave her five things, folks, that she was great at, but the one thing that I said her brother was better I at is the one she heard.
Mom
Yeah, you.
Dad
Grayson is just the sweetest child in the world.
Chase
Oh, he is.
Dad
And he worries about everyone's feelings, and he does not want to be drugged up in no drama. And Grayson will tell you straight up, keep me out of this.
Chase
Yeah. Because, like, we'll be talking about drama that's going on, and he goes, don't come to me. Don't tell me.
Mom
Yeah, he doesn't want it.
Dad
And I love that about him because he's literally protecting his peace.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
So I think that, again, each and every one of y' all have given me something special in my life, and I think that where I am right now. Where you are in your life. I'm grateful that you're where you are in your life, because it's. It's your life is what I prayed for. I prayed for you to have this life that you have right now, and I pray for you every day and give God the glory that he has, elevated you to this point, to where you have this life.
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Dad
What I would caution you on is that getting too comfortable in a life to where you believe that nothing can go wrong, because there's always something that can go wrong.
Chase
Yeah.
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Chase
Well, that's the thing. I was having a conversation the other day, and I said, you know, I'm just so excited to get in this house and it to be furnished, and, like, I feel like I'll just be at ease because the last Time that I was in a house that was furnished and this and that. And then I was told, I get where you're coming from, because I feel the same way. But I would caution you on thinking that a furnished house is going to, you know, cause you to be at ease or.
Mom
Yeah, just.
Chase
And I was like, no, you know what?
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Dad
If you are you. If you're anxious about something and you're anxious sitting here right now, but you go to your beautiful home that is furnished, I mean, and everything's perfect, you're now taking all of this anxiety from that chair into another chair in your beautifully furnished home.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
Until you properly unpack it, you're just moving your shit from one location to the next.
Chase
Yeah.
Mom
So true.
Chase
But don't you feel like. Like if you have your space that you're comfortable in and you feel at ease in that, that will give you the time and the tools to then deal with things when they do explode or that.
Mom
I do think that a peaceful surrounding does help.
Dad
It helps to keep your anxiety at bay.
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
It's almost like self soothing.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
But again, another thing that helped me in my 21, 28 months, extended summer was that I didn't have a place to hide. I didn't have that comfortable area. And I was forced to deal with the things that caused me to have anxiety. I was forced to unpack them and say, that has no place in my life anymore. Right now. I can go anywhere. And I do still have certain levels of anxiety, which is one of the reasons that I work out so much, because it helps me so much with that. But I don't have it near like I used to. And I can tell you, you, according to you and your brothers, y' all were raised in a museum. You know, you lived in a home that was meticulous.
Chase
You had old plaque that says, please remove shoes before.
Dad
The rugs were very expensive.
Chase
But if it tells you anything, I told my designer I really wanted that.
Dad
See, but I'm not having that in my new house because I'm having grandchildren. And what did I say?
Chase
Yeah, but still remove your shoes.
Dad
Yes. It's okay for that. But what I'm saying is that where your mother and I are now, my grandchildren are going to be able to come in and lay down. They're going to be able to do whatever they want to do within reason. And I'm not going to freak out on it, because at the end of the day, they are what's precious to me, not the rug.
Mom
Yeah. So, okay. Let's remind him of that.
Dad
I didn't say we're not going to
Mom
have housekeepers when we had slime on the carpet.
Chase
Let's remind him of that whenever we've got one and they come in the house. Remember Mallory posted about hers on her brand new wall. You remember, Marker?
Dad
Just Mallory's a saint, bless her heart. I want whatever, Mallory, whatever you're taking, I want some. I'm coming by today and get me three or four of them. But I don't want that life anymore. And I mean, you and I, you know that. Because of the things that we've looked at for this next round of houses.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
And have I not walked away from the ones that were so glamorous?
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
It just doesn't fit me anymore. So what I would say to you is, is that your house being furnished beautifully, if you're still empty inside, the house is furnished. You're not. So you got to figure out how you're going to furnish your insides.
Chase
Well, I didn't know I was going to therapy today.
Dad
Well, I didn't mean.
Chase
Just don't charge me.
Dad
Well, you wouldn't pay me. No way. I don't ever get paid a dime to come on this show to raise these ratings.
Chase
Oh, yeah. Huh. Now, speaking of new things in life, Good Guy RX is something now that you have started, and I love that I have. I'm focusing on all things female. You are focusing on all things male.
Dad
Well, you kind of laid the groundwork for that because I started reading the testimonials for Good Girl and I am a testimonial.
Mom
What do you mean? People see me all the time and they're like, oh, my gosh, you look so good.
Dad
She's a good girl. So is our friend Terrence. He's a good girl. Yeah.
Mom
Good girl rx.
Chase
Terrence.
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Chase
Dad told Terrence he would have to be.
Dad
I said, you're gonna have to now have to be a good guy. He said, I'm a good girl for anyone.
Chase
That's catching up. You know, obviously, you announced Good Guy R. Now tell us what it is, the mission behind it.
Dad
For me, I want Good Guy to be all about things that are male focused and male driven. Things that guys will not talk about to other guys. Things that they're certainly not going to talk about to their wife or to their girlfriend or whatever.
Mom
Their partner.
Dad
Yes. Because guys don't tell all their medical stuff. They don't talk about, you know, if you've got a low libido, if Your testosterone is high. Not. You know, I never realized that. And my doctor said that a lot of the reason that mine is so high is because I've never smoked or drank or ever done any. Anything. But when I started doing the research, I realized I would talk to other guys that's my age and they'd be like, you know, my Testosterone is like 300. And I'd go to your mom and I'd say, that seems weird, doesn't it? So then I started doing the research on.
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
And I realized that your testosterone level drives so much of being healthy as a man.
Chase
Well, yeah, you're.
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Chase
Right. It deals with anxiety, depression.
Dad
Right.
Mom
So I think good guy too is not just for men your age, but I think it is for all men and for young men to get started on a regimen early so that they aren't faced with these issues when they get to be 50 years old.
Dad
I fortunately, thank God, have never had to take a testosterone replacement. But my doctor informed me when I was doing this research that 35 or 40% of his patients are 25 to 35 with low testosterone.
Chase
Testosterone. Men's testosterone is at an all time low.
Dad
And it's, it's absolutely.
Mom
That's crazy.
Dad
It's insane to me because, you know, as, as I think I talked about this on, on two sons and me, that the difference in generations is that, that if I lay down with you, you got pregnant today. You know, everyone's having trouble getting pregnant. And I do believe it's because of all the hormones and stuff that's in our food and the pesticides and stuff. But going back to good Guy Rx, I want people to live a good, happy, healthy life. And I believe that your happiness, a large portion of that is derived from how healthy you are and how, and how you look and how you feel about yourself. Yourself. And when I started working out, you know, three and four days a week, I felt better.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
And when I had my blood work done, everything was perfect. Thank you, God. But I wanted to bulk up. I wanted to have a healthier. I didn't want to look frail as I aged. And so I got with, you know, Dr. Wade out in Dallas and he gave me, put me on this, he did my blood work, a huge panel. I think there was 13 or 18 tubes of blood that was done. And he said, you need to be on this and this and whatever. And when I saw the results of these peptides, I came to you and I said, is this what good Girl does. You said, daddy, yeah, we do it for women. I said that I need to do it for men. Can you help me do this? And so that's really how Good Guy RX came about.
Mom
So I think you have a lot of, you know, with the GLP ones, women talk about it all the time, but. But there's men that need it and want to be on it and they're. Whether shame or whatever, there's a stigma
Dad
to guys doing what girls do.
Chase
Right.
Mom
And I think this is going to give them a place to go and feel safe and know that they're doing it the right way, an easy way, which I've told you many, many times before with Good Girl Rx, because before Good Girl, I had, you know, gotten it from somewhere else and I had to worry about, literally, I had to get a nurse friend of mine of ours to come and reconstitute it. She couldn't figure it out with Good Girl and Good Guy now it already comes. It already comes. It's self explanatory. You get your bottles, they're labeled. Everything is already. It's so easy.
Dad
And I think that from a, from a personal perspective, from a man's perspective, guys want to perform. They want to perform in the boardroom, the bedroom, and their children's lives. And in order for you to be there for every asp that a man has the responsibility for being, you have to be at the top of your game.
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
And I have. You have said that my whole life has changed. I mean, my whole perspective has changed on health now. And I believe and I, and I've said this now for six weeks. In order to find a good girl, you got to be a good guy.
Chase
Amen.
Dad
And so I want all of the guys to be good guys so that they can be a good guy. For a good girl, you can use my code founders15@goodguyrx.com for 15% off.
Chase
All right, now that we have touched on all things prison, coming home, I think we did a little therapy session in the midst of it and we spoke about Good Guy Rx, which I'm so excited about. You'll have all the hormone replacement therapy as well as GLP1s and then things for males that women don't need that are not on Good Girl rx. But with that being said, we are going to go into Q and A that listeners have asked.
Dad
This is how I got in trouble with that Megan girl.
Chase
Oh, God. Okay, what is. These are questions that people have asked. Let's start out with what advice would you give to someone going through a similar situation and to their family?
Dad
We're talking about extended stay.
Chase
Yeah, Your extended, say, maybe legal issues or.
Dad
Make sure you have the right attorneys. Make sure your attorneys are focused on what they're supposed to be doing. Cling closer together, because the tighter you are, the better it is, because the government's goal is to destroy everything about you. And as our prosecutors said before they ever took this case on, if we get. If we get taught, the rest of the family will fall. That was their statement. So you didn't let that happen. Neither did God. But I would say that, you know, just know that the prosecutors do not care about destroying your family. They do not care about any. They don't care about the truth. They care about one thing, and that's a conviction, Right?
Mom
Absolutely.
Chase
What would you tell the man on day one inside.
Dad
That you're going to be okay, Mom.
Mom
Yes. That you're going to be okay. That. For. For me, I would say stay busy, stay focused, cling to your faith, because at the end of the day, you walk in there by yourself and you're going to walk out by yourself.
Chase
How has your marriage evolved in the past year?
Dad
I think we're. I think it's funnier. I think there's more humor involved in it. I think that.
Mom
I think it was so heavy for literally, like, 10 years or more leading up to us going away, because we dealt with it every day. It was something new or. Or, you know, it was a thing. It wasn't a thing. It was a thing. It wasn't a thing. Yes. I think there's just a lightness.
Dad
I agree. I think that there's a lightness to it. And I have a whole new. I always viewed my marriage as not just me and your mom, but all of our kids. And I think for the first time in my life, I view our marriage as singular. Just me and her.
Mom
Yeah, we kind of meshed marriage and family at all. It all the lines got very blurred.
Dad
And I think for now, I mean, at this point in my life, I'm probably more clear on what that. What our marriage is and what it looks like and what it needs to be from my perspective. And. And that. That this is the person that I'm going to die with. This is the person that I'm going to be with for the rest of my life.
Chase
Okay, next question. What are your future goals, hopes and dreams for yourselves and for each other? So I guess for you individually, what is the dream that came back online this Year.
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Mom
For me, specifically, just me. You know, there's still so much that I want to do. You know, I want to do my cooking. You know, I want to do a cooking show or something. Something related to food, whatever that looks like a restaurant. I don't. I don't really know exactly what it looks like, but I know it involves food in some way. That is my love language. I love to feed people. But I also, of course, I want my marriage to be better. You know, I don't think you ever stop. I don't want to ever stop working toward that. You know, not. I think we have a great marriage, but I think there's always room for improvement. I want to be a better mother. There's always room for improvement. I want to be a better grandmother. All those things, you know? So I think it's just that. To know that. That there's always room for improvement. And I don't ever want to just stop. I don't ever want to be like, okay, this is as good as it gets. You know? Like, this is good. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I don't want to put any more work in.
Chase
Like, I know for me, if I were answering that, I would say, when y' all went away, especially geared more towards you. You know, one of the things that I came to terms with was, like, I'm never gonna have. Have a wedding. I'm not gonna celebrate that. If I do get married, I'm just gonna go get married legally and call it a day. Cause my dad's not gonna be here to walk me down the aisle, or mom's not gonna be here to go dress shopping with me. So I had just come to the realization that, all right, I'm just never doing it. And so now I'm in a place in my life to where. Okay, that dream's come back online. Because I'm so excited. I now can be so excited. Cause I know y' all are here to be a part of something like that.
Mom
Right.
Dad
That certainly
Julie (Hospice Nurse)
my.
Dad
One of my dreams. Because I did worry about that. And you and I actually talked about that.
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
And I said, do not put it on hold for me. Because with that time, we didn't know what was going to happen.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
I think that my dream that has come back online is just that I'm back. I have my life back.
Chase
Yeah.
Dad
And as long as you have. As long as you have life, you have endless opportunities. There's so many different things that happen every day, and so many things you know, I had. I never stopped dreaming the whole time that I was gone.
Chase
No, you didn't. You definitely didn't live there. You're. You were somewhere else.
Dad
No, I lived there. I never lived at that place. But I always. I've always been a dreamer, and so I never stopped dreaming. And I kept putting things in perspective, and I sent you things and, you know, that we were going to do, and we're actually doing those things, and I made commitments to you that was going to happen, that those things have. Those commitments have now been kept.
Mom
Absolutely.
Dad
And I think the dream that matters, that is the biggest thing for me is that I'm back with your mom and with my kids and with my mother, because I had. My biggest fear was that something would happen to my mother while I was gone.
Julie (Hospice Nurse)
Yeah.
Dad
So now she's back with me. She. And I get to fight every day, and so I don't. My dream is still to create. I still want to create beautiful things, and I want to create joy and happiness for so many people. But I also. My dream is to also. For your mother and I to have a beautiful home, to be at peace, and to be great, wonderful grandparents. That is. That's probably. That is my biggest dream.
Chase
I love that. I think that's a good place to stop. And before we move, before we wrap up the episode, the Met gal that just happened. So I'm gonna give you some cards, and we're going to rate the looks. We can either do it 1 to 10 or yes or hard no, whichever you prefer. All right, here's yours. Here is yours, Mom. Okay. All right. So look, one Beyonce.
Dad
Well, you know how I feel about.
Mom
Oh, I think she looks great.
Dad
I think she's gorgeous.
Chase
So, yeah, let's. So as we go through, just say yes or no. Hard no.
Mom
Okay. Yes.
Dad
Yes.
Chase
Okay. Beyonce. Janelle Monae.
Dad
And I love her so much, but it's a no for me.
Mom
It's a no for me, too. She looks like a tree trunk.
Chase
She does.
Dad
I think that's the goal. I think that's the look that she was out after. But I still think she's beautiful, and I love her.
Chase
Blake Lively.
Dad
You know, I just don't have anything good to say about, like.
Chase
See, even I know that's what's hard is does she look good? Yeah. But after the whole scandal that just went on.
Mom
Yeah.
Dad
Her manipulation. Yeah. And that dress looks like love. Love Shack. Fancy.
Chase
Yeah.
Mom
Well, we're not going to shoot fancy. I'm not.
Dad
I'm just saying that, you know, it's the mat. And. And it looks like.
Chase
It looks. It does look like a tablecloth.
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Mom
I don't.
Chase
But also, I just can't like.
Dad
No. Cuz I think that she lied.
Chase
Yeah, you and me both.
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Chase
Katy Perry.
Dad
You know they said that girl said she's got a stanky puss.
Chase
Daddy.
Mom
What?
Dad
That's what now in the prayers.
Mom
I never heard that. What?
Dad
Yeah, this girl suing her for said her that she drug her cat, kitty cat across her face and it stunk. She threw up.
Mom
You're lying.
Dad
No. So I'm gonna have to say no because she got a stanky kitty.
Chase
Bad bunny.
Mom
A bad bunny. I don't know why he wanted to make himself look old because he's not. And he's a good looking kid.
Chase
And he made himself look like a white guy.
Dad
That's bad bunny.
Mom
Yeah. And he's young.
Dad
That's the one. Did the Super Bowl.
Chase
Yeah, that huge scandal around the super bowl and the FCC and.
Mom
Right. But I just don't understand.
Dad
I think he looks pretty. Damn.
Mom
But he's young. He's made himself look old. He's a good looking kid.
Dad
Just letting you know what he's gonna be when he gets that.
Chase
That's the whole point of the Met Gala. So this was a performance art piece. Aged silver fox process.
Dad
I think he looks good.
Mom
He'll be a good looking older guy.
Julie (Hospice Nurse)
Yeah.
Chase
And then last but not least, we have Kylie Jenner.
Mom
Oh, no. I saw her on Real Time and she looked good.
Chase
She looked phenomenal.
Mom
She looked really.
Dad
I love her looks phenomenal.
Chase
She looks phenomenal. Do I love the dress? No, not so much.
Dad
Well, she's done better, but, you know, it is the match. I like Kendall's dress, but Kendall's just.
Mom
Yeah, but she looks really good, Kylie in her dress.
Chase
There were 10,000 pearls and 7,000 fish scales in her dress. And I thought it was hilarious because after the Met, she's trying to dye her eyebrows back.
Mom
Back.
Chase
Because she bleached them out and they were not going back to normal.
Mom
Yeah.
Chase
Yeah. She said I.
Dad
She's got cosmetics that'll fix that.
Mom
Yes. Yes, she does.
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Chase
She's gorgeous.
Dad
Yes. I think it's precious.
Chase
Well, some of those. Katy Perry clearly did not hit the mark with you, so.
Dad
No, I don't even. I don't even know a whole lot about her. I just was on the Instagram.
Mom
That just triggered you when you saw her.
Dad
Yeah. That she had a stanky cat.
Chase
Oh, okay. Well, let's hope that's not the case. And if so, maybe we can help you.
Dad
It's a lawsuit. I didn't make it up. The girl's suing her and saying that she drug her cat across her face and she threw up.
Chase
Okay, well, Katy Perry is.
Dad
That's not true.
Chase
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Dad
something that helps with root rot.
Chase
On that note, we are going to wrap it up for the day. Thank you so much for listening. And don't forget to go and check out goodguyrx.com and you can use code founders15for15off of your entire order. And if you're a female, good girlrx.com is always there for you.
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Hi, everyone. I'm hospice nurse Julie and I have some bad news, but also some good news.
Dad
News?
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Podcast: Unlocked with Savannah Chrisley
Episode: One Year Later (feat. Todd and Julie Chrisley)
Release Date: July 7, 2026
This episode marks a significant milestone for the Chrisley family: one year since Todd and Julie Chrisley received full presidential pardons and returned home after their highly publicized legal ordeal. Hosted by Savannah Chrisley, with parents Todd and Julie joining as the main guests, the conversation dives deeply into the emotional, relational, and practical realities of their “year out”—including marriage, family dynamics, recovery from trauma, and new business ventures like Good Guy Rx and Good Girl Rx. The episode balances vulnerability, humor, and candid storytelling, capped off with a lighthearted review of recent Met Gala looks.
What does a year out feel like?
Todd and Julie express immense appreciation for being home, conscious that their return to normalcy is a privilege many do not get.
Both acknowledge the imperfections and hardships within the reentry process, particularly contrasting halfway houses and home confinement.
Todd reflects on moments of PTSD, including how unexpected reminders can still bring back difficult memories.
Family Dynamics Shift
Marriage as a Partnership
Julie and Todd reflect on raising kids from a young age and now rediscovering their relationship as a couple.
Both discuss that parenting adult children means letting go of needing to manage their decisions.
Navigating Emotional Detachment & Growth
Notable Vulnerability
Parent Preferences & Sibling Dynamics
Advice for Challenging Times
The Chrisleys offer advice for families facing legal troubles, emphasizing sticking together, finding the right legal support, and maintaining faith.
Julie adds the importance of staying busy, focused, and connected to faith during hardship.
Rethinking Reality TV
Todd expresses reluctance to return to television in the old format, emphasizing a desire for authenticity over staged moments.
Julie voices skepticism, but acknowledges the appeal of “real” moments being shared. [09:34]
Processing Trauma and Moving Forward
Therapy Talk & Coping Skills
Family members swap therapeutic wisdom and self-reflection.
Todd emphasizes the danger of tying one's sense of peace or self-worth to external possessions or perfectionism.
Launching Good Guy Rx
Todd introduces his new business focused on men’s health: hormone balancing, testosterone optimization, and self-confidence.
Inspired by the success of Julie’s Good Girl Rx, Todd seeks to provide a safe, straightforward resource for men’s health—free from shame or stigma.
Reclaiming Dreams
Julie and Todd articulate newly revived dreams for themselves—Julie wants to do a cooking show or open a restaurant, Todd wants peace and purpose in family and creativity.
Savannah reflects that she had put her own dreaming “on hold” during her parents’ prison stint and now feels able to imagine important milestones, like a wedding, again.
Fashion Review
Todd to Megan Thee Stallion:
“Due to my ignorance of not knowing who you are...I may have made light of the fact that you only have nine toes. I did not mean it that way. …But you handled it well. You got a Bentley out of it.” [02:56]
Julie on post-prison gratitude:
“I stop and think every day how so many people that come out of prison, you know, they have to fight to even get more freedoms.” [04:16]
Todd on authenticity:
“I want what the content that we create going forward to be truly 100% authentic…Let’s just capture it the way that it is.” [09:47]
Todd on his marriage:
“This is the person I’m going to die with...the rest of my life.” [49:51]
Julie on worries as a mom:
“You never stop worrying.” [31:39]
Todd on self-worth and possessions:
“If you’re still empty inside, the house is furnished, you’re not. So you got to figure out how you’re going to furnish your insides.” [41:04]
Todd on Good Guy Rx:
“I want all of the guys to be good guys so that they can be a good guy for a good girl.” [46:43]
Direct, humorous, heartfelt, and frequently self-deprecating. The Chrisleys blend vulnerability about painful experiences with family banter and candid assessments, toggling between heaviness and levity naturally throughout the episode.
This episode provides a raw and real window into the unique challenges and growth experienced by a high-profile family coming through adversity. Whether you’re interested in family psychology, personal reinvention, or just enjoy a hearty dose of reality TV-level banter with genuine warmth, “Unlocked” delivers a balanced mix of introspection and entertainment.