Will Savannah Ever Get Married? (feat. Todd Chrisley)

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Unlocked with Savannah Chrisley – "Will Savannah Ever Get Married?" (feat. Todd Chrisley)
Date: November 25, 2025
Host: Savannah Chrisley
Guest: Todd Chrisley
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Overview: Main Theme & Purpose

This candid, laughter-filled episode features Savannah and her father, Todd Chrisley, diving deep into topics of personal growth, family dynamics, independence, and Savannah’s outlook on relationships and potential marriage. Against the backdrop of Todd returning home from prison, the two reflect honestly on transformative life experiences—including public scrutiny, resilience after family challenges, and real talk about Savannah’s future. As always, warmth and playful banter set the tone, with memorable quips that reveal both vulnerability and humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Savannah’s Solo Travel and the Value of Independence

• Travel Experiences: Savannah shares stories from her recent European solo trip, from visiting historic sites in Paris to navigating concerts and casinos in London. (00:07–02:54)
  • She emphasizes how traveling alone built her confidence and sense of security.
  • Savannah: “Traveling by yourself...it gives you just a sense of security and confidence.” (02:21)
• Perspective Shift: Todd applauds her bravery, while admitting he doesn’t have the same travel bug but is proud of her independence.
• Practical Tip: Savannah humorously warns against traveling with too much luggage, drawing on her own struggles. (38:27–39:05)

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2. Possibility of Running for Public Office

• Public Interest: Todd shares that people often ask if Savannah will run for office due to her strong voice and following. (03:01–03:35)
  • Todd: “People message me every day...Please tell me that Savannah is going to run because we need someone of her caliber in office.” (03:08)
• Savannah’s Response: She says “never say never,” but her current focus is on her business, Good Girl Rx.
  • She weighs the pros and cons of running for office versus influencing from outside politics.
  • Emphasizes wanting to do it the “right way” if she ever runs—not for the money or notoriety. (04:48–05:14)
  • Inspired by female leaders like Linda McMahon, she stresses the need for more women in politics.
  • Savannah: “We need more women like that in politics.” (05:53)

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3. Family Transitions and Shifting Responsibilities

• From Caretaker to Independence: With Todd and her mother now home, Savannah describes the relief and liberation she feels going from caretaker mode to focusing on herself. (06:00–07:25)
  • Todd: “Now you get to just focus on you...So what does that feel like?” (07:25)
• Backlash & Advocacy: Savannah recounts standing up for Chloe at school and how she handles public backlash, underscoring her commitment to doing the right thing. (07:28–08:27)
  • Savannah: “Whether I've gotten backlash or not...I know I'm doing the right thing.”
• Helping Others: She discusses finding fulfillment in criminal justice advocacy, helping bring innocent people home from wrongful sentences. (08:27–08:43)
  • Todd: “As of this morning, the number is now 64 men that have come home.” (08:38)

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4. Reflections on Prison, Public Scrutiny, and Family’s Reality TV Experience

• Both agree that their prison experience, though difficult, was transformative and necessary for personal growth and awareness.
  • Todd: “No, I wouldn’t change it because God has shown me a purpose I never knew...” (14:37)
  • Savannah: “As hard as they were, they were necessary, I would not change [those years] for the world.” (13:57)
• Impact of Reality TV: They note that while “Chrisley Knows Best” opened them up to public opinion, their televised struggles might have helped others in similar situations. (16:23–17:27)
• Todd reflects on regret, growth from mistakes, and changing family relationships.

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5. Family Dynamics & Addiction: Multiple Perspectives

• Addiction and Sibling Relationships: The two discuss how addiction in a family member affects the whole family, not just the individual with the addiction. Savannah feels there’s often too much sympathy for the addict and not enough for those who bear the consequences. (19:05–21:04)
  • Savannah: “The people that have to deal with the person who has been addicted, they get overlooked...But what about everybody else dealing with that?”
• Todd’s Guidance: He reflects on emotional resilience, teaching Savannah to appear strong, and the downside to hiding real struggles—a mix that led Savannah to have “resentment.” (20:30–21:12)
  • Todd: “You’ve painted this beautiful picture of this very self-confident, secure young woman...and inside that really was not what was going on.”

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6. The Role of Boundaries and Learning Compassion

• Boundaries & Self-Care: Todd, after years of being a “people pleaser,” now prioritizes self-respect and reciprocal relationships. He advises Savannah to learn this earlier than he did. (30:31–33:00)
  • Todd: “I’m going to meet you where you show up...If you don’t want to invest in me, you’re going to walk away with less from me.”
• On Compassion and Resentment: Todd cautions that always giving yourself away fosters resentment. Savannah defends her compassion but Todd says it’s most powerful when others notice it, not when you claim it. (36:01–36:36)
  • Todd: “You have to decide when is your time to have someone to hold the door for you.”
• Resilience: Discussion about building emotional “walls” from childhood pain and how this influenced their respective personalities and parenting styles. (27:26–29:22)

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7. Playful Banter: Will Savannah Ever Get Married?

• The Central Question: The episode climaxes with Todd grilling Savannah on her relationship plans, future marriage, and fears around commitment. (39:27–42:37)
  • Todd: “Do you have a desire to get married at some point?” (39:31)
  • Savannah: “Yeah...eventually.” (39:34)
  • Todd: “Do you think that it will be before I draw Social Security?” (39:36)
  • Savannah: “I don’t know.” (39:41)
  • Todd jokes Savannah’s standards might doom her to waiting for a husband on Social Security, and threatens to choose her spouse in old-fashioned style for a “decent young man.”
  • Savannah: “This is not the 1800s, okay? This is 2020-almost six.” (41:16)
  • Todd: “I don’t want some old fart trying to raise my grandchildren. That’s my job.” (40:03)
  • Savannah admits marriage scares her more than having kids, possibly linked to the fear of “losing control” in a partnership.
• Underlying Insight: Savannah is not in a rush, choosing to let life unfold, while Todd—half-teasing and half-serious—hopes for grandkids and a strong son-in-law.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Traveling Solo:

  • “Traveling by yourself...gives you just a sense of security and confidence.” – Savannah (02:21)

• On the Possibility of Running for Office:

  • “If my companies go as I hope ... why wouldn’t I run for public office?” – Savannah (04:39)
  • “We need more women like that in politics.” – Savannah (05:53)

• On Overcoming Hardship:

  • “As hard as [the past two and a half years] were, they were necessary, I would not change it for the world.” – Savannah (13:57)
  • “God has shown me a purpose that I never knew I had or wanted.” – Todd (14:37)

• On Public and Private Struggles:

  • “You’ve painted this beautiful picture of ... a very self-confident, secure young woman...and inside that really was not what was going on.” – Todd (21:03)

• On Boundaries:

  • “I’m going to meet you where you show up...If you don’t want to invest in me, you’re going to walk away with less from me.” – Todd (33:00)

• On Picking a Husband:

  • “Can you please try to focus on finding you a decent young man ... I don’t want no ugly grandkids.” – Todd (40:39)
  • “I’m not going to have ugly grandkids.” – Savannah (40:51)

• On Marriage Anxiety:

  • “The thoughts of getting married scares me more than the thoughts of having kids.” – Savannah (41:44)
  • “Do you think it will be before I draw Social Security?” – Todd (39:36)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | Description | |-----------|------------------------------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:07 | Travel Stories | Savannah’s solo trips and personal growth | | 03:01 | Political Ambitions | Will Savannah run for office? | | 06:00 | Transition from Family Caretaker | Newfound independence, emotional relief | | 08:27 | Helping Others & Advocacy | Savannah on wrongful convictions and fulfillment in advocacy | | 13:57 | Prison Reflections | Todd and Savannah on personal growth from adversity | | 16:23 | Reality TV Public Scrutiny | Discussing “Chrisley Knows Best” impact | | 19:05 | Family, Addiction, and Overlooked Voices | The nuanced impact of addiction on the whole family | | 27:26 | Boundaries & Emotional Walls | Building resilience and learning from pain | | 30:31 | Setting Boundaries | Todd’s newfound clarity on personal investments and relationships | | 36:01 | Compassion vs. Resentment | The power of being seen as compassionate by others | | 39:27 | Marriage & Dating Banter | Savannah’s fear of marriage, Todd’s jests about grandkids & picking spouses |

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Final Thoughts

This episode blends heartfelt reflection and classic Chrisley humor, offering insight into Savannah’s journey as an empowered woman shaped by both adversity and opportunity. Listeners get an honest look at her inner world—her fears, her independence, and her goals—while Todd oscillates between doting, honest parent and comedic provocateur. The discussion on marriage, boundaries, and compassion is both relatable and revealing, making it valuable listening for anyone navigating change, family, or the search for self.

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For listeners who missed it, this episode is a rich tapestry of growth, laughter, and Southern straight talk about life, love, and finding your path.

Transcript

[A]

Welcome back to this week's episode of Unlocked. We have part two of dad.

[B]

So you love Italy?

[A]

Yes. I'm going back.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I'm going back, but I'm going to the Amalfi coast. I'm doing all that next. But this is after. I traveled to more countries, so I gotta get my 30 by 30.

[B]

So where are you going next?

[A]

I don't know. I don't know where I'm going next because I'm only at. Hold on. Got my apple. I've only been to 12 countries. I've only been to 6% of the world.

[B]

That's four and a half percent more than I've been. I'm good with it.

[A]

Well, 12 countries, so I've got a lot.

[B]

I just don't have that desire. And you know that.

[A]

Oh, I do. I like.

[B]

I am gonna go to Italy. Cause your mother wants to go there. Amsterdam, I'll probably skip because I don't care about all that.

[A]

No. Amsterdam, I loved. I loved Amsterdam.

[B]

And then Switzerland's gonna be cold.

[A]

Yes. But I think traveling, because you get to see other cultures, you get to see the history. I mean, going to Paris and seeing buildings, like before Christ, and then 1500s, and you see buildings here, we don't. We don't have the beauty that they have.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Or so I. I thought it was great. But also traveling by yourself. Because I also went to. Who's Our Girl? We love this.

[B]

The Jessie Murph.

[A]

Yes. So Jesse Murph.

[B]

I love Jessie Murph.

[A]

When I was in London, Jessie Murph was performing. So I bought me a ticket and I was going to go. And then I'd had a long day, so I was like, all right, I'm not going to go. And then I sat down at a pub and it was started in like 20 minutes. And I go, you know what? I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go. And it said. It was like, right by my hotel. So I went. I walked there. Come to find out there was two places named this. The place I had to go was across town. So I had to go and get on the tube. And I went and did it. I had no problems.

[B]

She videoed the performance and sent it to me.

[A]

It was so good. Traveling by yourself. I mean, I used to not be able to, like, eat by myself. I didn't want to.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And now it's just. Traveling by yourself. Going to a concert by yourself. It gives you just a sense of security and confidence.

[B]

Freedom also.

[A]

Yes, it does. I mean, granite. Be safe as A female doing it. I did get off the wrong station on my train ride back, but. But I made it, we were good and I went to the casino in London. Had a great time. So traveling by yourself I think everyone should do at some point in their life.

[B]

So what else is next for you?

[A]

I don't know what's. You know me, I just.

[B]

Cuz so many people message me every day on DMS or whatever.

[A]

Yeah, you look at it, it's crazy.

[B]

Well, I don't look at all of them. I just look at one. Like if I'm scrolling and bored when I'm in the bed, then I'll look. But a lot of people message me about is, is she or is she not going to run for a public office? Like I had a message last night from someone that you know that said please tell me that Savannah is going to run because we need someone of her caliber in office.

[A]

I mean, I appreciate and love comments like that that come from people. And you know what I say, never say never. Who knows what's going to happen. I knew that right now in my life it was not the time. Because when you run for public office and you do it the right way, you're divesting from everything.

[B]

Right?

[A]

I'm not doing that right now with Good Girl Rx. We're about to be relaunching any day now with over 15 different products. I, I know where I want to see that go. And I've had a lot of people and people within the administration say, hey, with the following that you have and the voice that you have, you could be just as effective on the outside and not have to give up your life. But also I have a voice that 95% of the politicians don't have.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So I can use my voice. I could go on a Fox, a news nation, whatever it may be, and, and use my voice that way. Now I've said that if my companies go as I hope they go and I can sell, then why wouldn't I run for public office?

[B]

Right? But you could be like Nancy Pelosi. You could walk out with $300 million.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Right.

[A]

If only it worked that way, right?

[B]

Well, it did work that way.

[A]

It did for her, but for most it doesn't. So. And if I do it, I want to do it the right way. I'm not looking to be another Nancy Pelosi. I'm not looking. I, I want known for all the good things I've done and not cheating the system or if I'm going to Be a politician. I'm going to challenge people, and I'm going to do it the right way.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And you have to be a voice for the people that are looking at you to be a voice for them. Right. And we need more women. I mean, when I was sitting next to Linda McMahon at. On a panel, just sitting next to her and feeling. Not just feeling the power that she has that radiates off of her and her confidence and. But. And she's a woman. And to see. She built an insane company. She's now in the administration. She. Everything that she does, you're just like, wow. And we need more women like that in politics.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So who knows what could happen? You know me. Crazy stuff happens to me. Stuff will fall.

[B]

That is not a lie.

[A]

It. It just the craziest stuff happens. So if something falls in my lap or I feel. If I feel like it's the right time, the right place, then, you know, of course I would do it, because I feel like I have a calling to do something in the political realm, whether it's in public office or it's using my public platform to promote someone else. Who knows? But you don't know what I'm doing today.

[B]

No. Well, I know what you're doing right now, but after this. After that, I have no idea. So how does it feel knowing that? Because it has been a. It has been a transition, you know, of us coming home and you going from having to. For 28 months, go non stop trying with your mind never shutting off of what is your next step going to be.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that. That shift of control has changed.

[A]

Oh, I love it.

[B]

And. But I'm asking you. But it has. It has been a change because you're not. Now you're just having to control you and what you want to do to. Where before it was Grayson and Chloe and mama and, you know, whatever had to be done with Chase and, you know, and so many other things and your businesses and whatever. So now you get to just focus on you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so what does that feel like?

[A]

Well, I mean, I absolutely love it, but it's still. It's just. Even with Chloe, you know, like me seeing the stuff that's gone on at her school and speaking out about it and whether I've gotten backlash or not.

[B]

You have.

[A]

Oh, trust me, I know I have. But I know I'm doing the right thing, so I. I will always find somewhere to. I don't want control of things. Believe it or not, it feels great to not have to take a kid to school, to not have to worry about food, to not have to worry about a gazillion other things. And now I can pick and choose what I want to do when I want to do it. Helping other individuals where I look at their case and have seen that there've been, you know, corruption or they were wrongfully convicted. And being able to help these individuals and put my time and effort into it because I do love the sense of, like any person, you love the sense of accomplishment when you succeed at a task.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So getting y' all home was me succeeding at that task. So now I find the next people to help and.

[B]

And you're doing that through a lot of different angles because as of this morning, which you don't even know this number yet, the number is now 64 men that have come home.

[A]

That's amazing.

[B]

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[B]

Hmm. It's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient.

[A]

Could you be more specific?

[B]

When it's cravinient.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter, available right down the street at am, pm. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a second at am, pm. I'm seeing a pattern here. Well, yeah, we're talking about what I.

[A]

Crave, which is anything from am, pm.

[B]

What more could you want? Stop by ampm where the snacks and drinks are perfectly craveable and convenient. That's cravenience ampm. Too much good stuff. You know, I was asked last week, you know, if Todd, if you could change going to prison, would you do that? And I. And I said no, because that's what I've said.

[A]

I said if I say the past two and a half years, as hard as they were, they were necessary, I would not change it for the world.

[B]

No, they were necessary because it opened our eyes to. To so much pain and heartache that was going on throughout the world and certainly in our own country. But I look at how much stronger and more independent you have become through that. I look at areas where I know that I still need to work on in our family. I look at how we survived the toughest time of our life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And no, I wouldn't change it because I just feel like that God has shown me a purpose that I never knew that I had or that I wanted. And just like you said, there's a satisfaction in knowing that you accomplish this. So every time I wake up and I get something on my phone and it says, this individual's going home six months earlier, this one's going home 14 months earlier, this one's doing this. You know, that is a sense of accomplishment. Yeah. And. And it's almost like I don't. I don't know how to word it. It's. There's such a gratification.

[A]

Well, yeah, because a lot of. If we're being honest, what we've done for 10 years of our life with TV, we. At least I can say for me, it wasn't this huge giving back to people.

[B]

No, I think that we gave back to people because, I mean, when you. When you hear the people that you meet and that talk about to them, it meant something to them, our life. Yes. To us, it was just living our lives. But I'm I'm proud and grateful, you know, for Chrisley knows best. There's nothing in my life that I want to go back, you know, and really, I look back across my life and, you know, yes, there's mistakes that I've made, and some of I was getting ready to lie and say there was some things I wouldn't change, but they are. Yeah, but I would have never gotten married the first time, and I damn sure would have never hired Mark Braddock. So those two things I can definitely say I would have redone. But, you know, for the most part, I'm kind of good with the mistakes that I've made because I have learned from.

[A]

Well, it makes you who you are. And that's like with chasing that and fighting and on TV and whatever. Our stuff was just put out there for the world to see.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Every other big family or every other sibling, you have riffs with your siblings. You may not talk for a few months. You may not like something you. But of course, everyone's gonna have their opinions on things.

[B]

And we give. We. We put ourselves in a position for so many to have an opinion because we are on television.

[A]

Yeah. But we also, in a way, hope that it helps other individual going through something similar, because even with Chase and I, yes, people can say I was a stone cold and I was this, that, whatever, but Chase went on your podcast. He talked about his story and addiction. He. He talked from it. About it from his perspective. And then. So you all. You have two perspectives when it comes to addiction. The person struggling with addiction and then the other individuals who have to be subjected to it with the person who is addicted. So it's two. There's two different.

[B]

Well, I think that, you know, I.

[A]

Wish we could have been more honest and shown throughout the series was that. Or had a converse and had a conversation.

[B]

I think that you people have to be in the right kind of headspace in order to give you what needs to be given. And I think that, you know, listen, as a parent, you know how I feel about it. You know, it was heartbreaking for me to watch it and to see it, but not as shocking. It was not as shocking to me as it was to the world to see it, because the world wasn't living it. Yeah, we were living it. And, you know, I look at where Chase is today, and. And there's joy in his life. He's not drinking. He's, you know, he's put on £40 and he's working out every. You know, those videos.

[A]

Oh, yeah. No, he looks so good.

[B]

He looks so good. And he's so. You know. And you know yourself, you are the beauty, but Chase is television gold.

[A]

I've always said Chase has a great personality. He. But all of that has ceased to exist up until.

[B]

Up until we came home. And he is now back and better than he's ever been. And he's 29, and he's. And he knows that he's 29 and that it's time. That it's time to get your shit together. And so. But I do think that you had to go through that. Y' all had to go through that for sure, because it's going to give y' all a greater appreciation for each other in the years to come.

[A]

Yeah. I think for me, what the hard part was, and I would be interested to hear other people's opinions that are listening, who have dealt with family members that have addiction is because one of the things that came back on the show was how bad people felt for Chase. And it was so frustrating because, yes, you do feel bad for anyone struggling with addiction, but you dealt with this our whole childhood with the oldest.

[B]

Not.

[A]

You know what I mean? But the people that have to deal with the person who has been addicted, they get overlooked. You know what I mean? So it's like, oh, I feel so bad for the addict.

[B]

But what about the person dealing with you?

[A]

What about everybody else dealing with that?

[B]

Well, I think that you have, you.

[A]

Know, what you went through.

[B]

Well, I think that mine is going to be at. My response is going to be different because I'm a parent.

[A]

Yeah. So do you get what I'm saying?

[B]

I do understand what you're saying. That from the standpoint of that, you know, the whole. You know, because for the most part, the world did adopt him at that point because they could see the hurt in this young kid. And you had such a bitterness because you're like, wait a minute. I suffered through this whole process.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And here I am being made out to be the villain, but when I was merely calling out the truth. So there is no right and no wrong in that. But I do believe that so many people, Savannah, have gone through with a child or a sibling or themselves what Chase has gone through. So there was a relatability factor there with you. You have kind of put yourself in this gilded cage because I have raised you that way. You know, I have. I've always said, growing up that, you know, you don't let them see you sweat.

[A]

You don't let them break you don't.

[B]

Let them see you cry. You don't let them break you. So, you know, you've painted this beautiful picture of this very self confident, secure young woman who every hair is in place and her makeup's flawless and her life is beautiful, and inside that really was not what was going on. There was a lot of struggle there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. But because I had raised you to never allow anyone to see that, you literally took it literally.

[A]

But not really. Aaron can attest to that, because even on the podcast for people who have been watching for a while, there was a lot of times that I would be crying. I would break down. I would.

[B]

Yeah, but not the kind of crying and breaking down that caused you to have resentment.

[A]

The.

[B]

The resentment that you had is a. You know, you should have never been in the position that you were in to begin with. And so there's got to be some resentment from that because you were thrust into this, and then you're being thrust into it because you were the one that we trusted the most and. And the most capable, you know, out of my children. And then in your mind, you. You felt that people were going to be as you are and that people were going to respond as you respond. And you, as you and I have discussed, that's where we get in trouble, because we expect from others what we expect of ourself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And not everyone is capable of giving you what you can give to others, and a lot of people are just not willing.

[A]

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[B]

That's not true.

[A]

If we choose.

[B]

No, I don't. I think that you. You know, I would have said that probably 15 years ago, but now I'm smarter and I've read so much, and I have. I've truly just dug so deep into who I am and the mistakes that I've made.

[A]

But you are. Like, if you're capable of coming in, picking me up or you're capable of.

[B]

Yes, but you have to.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yes, but it's deeper than that. You need to understand that not everyone has the same tools to be. To be as capable at certain things as what you are or what I am or whatever. Some people emotionally are just not as strong when it comes to dealing with certain things as you and I are. You and I have have gotten to this point of being strong because we've had so much hurt in our life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we've had so much damage done to us early on in our childhood that that caused us to toughen up because we felt like at that point that, okay, well, this happened to me and no one. I'm the child. It should. Things should not have happened to me or things should not have been done to me because someone should have been paying attention. Someone should have been watching. Someone should have had this protective hedge around me because I was a child. Well, then at that point, when we realized that that protective hedge was not there, we start building it ourself. And that protective hedge that we build is walls. It's not hedges, it's walls. And we eventually. For me. I'm speaking for me. I'm not going to speak for you. I can speak for me from the standpoint of what the things that have happened to me in my life. I built walls that were so thick and so high that no one was getting to me because that's the only way that I felt safe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And because I did that, that affected the way that I raised y'.

[A]

All.

[B]

Because I didn't want you around anyone. I didn't want you to. I didn't want anyone to be able to harm you. And so I felt like that if I kept you at home, then that was never going to happen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I Think that you and I have been forced to become who we are. And once you realize who you have become and you truly can intellectualize who you have become, and you won't do that now at 28, because I'm 57, and I'm just now starting to be able to intellectually understand who I actually am.

[A]

I'm grateful for everything that I've gone through and everything that has happened to me because I have said that if it wasn't for certain things happening to me, I would not have been able to deal with you and mom leaving.

[B]

But that's God. That is God.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Because everything that happens to us is preparation for what lies ahead.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday. It was a. It was a little bit of an uncomfortable conversation. And. And we're fine. But I said. They said something to me that was a trigger for me. And I said, no, I don't agree with that. Now. I would have never said that before.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I said, no, I don't agree with that. I said, I'm going to invest in those that take the time to invest in me. If you show up for me, I'm going to show up for you. I'm going to meet you where you show up, and I'm going to give you the same energy that you give to me. To where before I would let you just shit all over me and just keep dumping and dumping and dumping and dumping. And I'd keep doing and doing and doing because I felt like that if I would, that eventually they'll see that the way they're doing it is not right. And the way that I'm doing it is that I'm still giving from it. From an open heart.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm not in that place anymore for me. And so I feel like that we. And I want you to learn this because you're my daughter and I love you with every part of my being. You do have to create boundaries. And that was something that I was not. That I have never been capable of doing. You could hurt me. And then 20 minutes later, I was still coming back because that was the wounded child in me that just wanted to be accepted. So I just kept coming back. So therefore I was saying to you what? Their fault, the person who had hurt me or offended me, it wasn't their fault at that point, because they rightfully so could understand, could say to themselves that, well, I wouldn't. I didn't offend him. I mean, we were talking 20 minutes later.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now I Don't do that now. I'm not doing that anymore. No, if you offend me, I'm going to say. Let me stop you for a second. I'm not good with what you just said. I find it offensive and it's degrading. So I'm not gonna do this with you. So I'm gonna meet you where you show up. And if you show up with good energy and you show up with pure intent and you want to be kind and you want to be loyal, if you're loyal to me, I'm gonna give you loyalty like you've never seen. If you are kind to me, I'm going to be overly kind to you. So I'm a good investment. If you want to invest in me, I'm a great investment for you. But if you don't want to invest in me, you're going to walk away with less from me.

[A]

Without a doubt. And that I have learned that I've, you know, good and well with me.

[B]

Yeah. But I think that with you. And again, you're 28. I can say this at 57 and not even have any anger, not even have the. The least amount of being antagonistic with it, because I'm just done.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you still have that fight in you.

[A]

Yeah, I do.

[B]

And. And I had that. I. Hell, I had that.

[A]

I do. Because you and I started conversations and I'm like, nah, what this person said was not true. I'm fighting back. I've got the receipts. I've got this, I've got that. And you're like, why? I'm like, because. Yeah, because the truth.

[B]

I know, but, you know, I think that. I think that you have to get to a place to where sometimes in life, people, when they. They will keep lying and hoping that that's going to be the last lie, and it's going to be the. It's going to be kind of like the nail in the coffin. And until you finally realize that. That this person are people that's in your lives, that. That do this. When you stop responding, that is your response. It's just not worth it anymore. Because at the end of the day, you're going to have a group of people over here on this. In this. In these bleachers, and you're going to have a group of people in these bleachers, and this one's going to root for this team, and this one's going to root for this team, and you have to get to a place to where you can play on the same field. And Block out the noise from the people from the fans on this side that are not rooting for you to cross that finish line.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I just don't know.

[A]

I think I will probably die with the fight on me.

[B]

You won't.

[A]

I just will.

[B]

It's not that you lose your fight. You learn to fight more.

[A]

You know me, though, when I fight, I want to take you out.

[B]

Well, you get that from me. But I'm telling you, learn from me now, from my mistakes. I have fought my whole life, and I've lost so much of my life for that fighting. And I don't want to do it anymore. I'm not going to fight with you. I'm not going to argue with you. Go. If you are determined to make an ass out of yourself, all I can do is stand on the sideline, let you make an ass out of yourself. But I'm going to still love you. But you got to make an ass out of yourself so many times before you realize, I don't want to be an ass anymore. And I think for us. When I say us, I'm talking about me and you. I think that. What I hope that in these next 10 years, I hope that I bestow upon you the understanding of having a more compassionate heart towards certain things.

[A]

I am very compassionate.

[B]

But listen, it's. Listen to me. It's one thing to say you. To say to acknowledge yourself, that you're compassionate, but it's a whole other thing for the world to say, oh, my God, she's so compassionate.

[A]

Anyone who. I guarantee you that's something I've like, I pride myself.

[B]

I'm not saying that you're not. I'm just saying that sometimes it's better most of the time to let someone else say it about you. No, but that's when it's most powerful.

[A]

Pride myself on being a good person and showing up for people.

[B]

That's like.

[A]

That's what I tried myself.

[B]

That's where the anger comes from in you. Because you just did exactly what I told you I did my whole life. You keep being this person that shows up. You keep being this person that gives. You keep being this person that puts yourself on the back burner and lets everyone else. You hold the door while everyone else walks through. And if you keep doing that, you will have a resentful heart. You have to decide when is your time to have someone to hold the door for you. And you can't be that person, Savannah, that is constantly doing for everyone else and forgetting who you are, because that Builds resentment.

[A]

Well, yeah, I think that was a big part of me going on my trip.

[B]

It was one of the. Now, folks, again, I don't want to travel, but I lived, and your mother lived vicariously through you in this trip. Now I worried myself to death. What did your mother say? Did I sleep at all?

[A]

No, she said, hopefully he can finally sleep.

[B]

I slept maybe four hours a night because your time difference was so far different than mine. And so I would be laying there and I'd be like, okay, she should be texting me right about night. She should be texting me. And then when you would text me that morning at about, like, 4 o' clock my time, then I could finally get my three hours from 4 to 7 before I had to get up and go to the gym.

[A]

Yeah, go to the gym and get his content.

[B]

And so, you know, we lived vicariously through your independence and your bravery of being able as a young woman to go and do all this stuff on your own. And it helped me as a dad to be able to know that you can be in another country and you can still survive.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that made me so proud.

[A]

And I will say, y', all, if you are going on a little world tour like I did, or European tour, don't carry multiple bags. Just do one if you can. Because getting on and off these trips, hypocrisy.

[B]

Because you had me to send you two more suitcases so you could bring all the stuff you bought.

[A]

Yes, because I knew. But just don't do it. Okay, that was on the final stop, so it made sense. But just don't do it. Because me getting on and off of these trains with three bags. If you could have seen it, it was it. It did me in. It did, but I enjoyed.

[B]

But you survived it. You had a great time and you have great memories for that. And you. If you do ever have a child, you will be able to have these videos and these moments. Oh, I can't wait for them to see that. And that excites me so much. Let's talk about how I feel about certain things.

[A]

Oh, yeah, let's.

[B]

Let's make it a little bit more.

[A]

Valid if we have time for that.

[B]

Do you have a desire to get married at some point?

[A]

I mean, yeah, eventually.

[B]

Do you think that it will be before I draw Social Security?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Well, if you're gonna wait that damn long, don't get married. You might as well shack up because he'll be on Social Security. Well, that's in your dating pool. He'll be dating.

[A]

I was about to say. Well, but when you're on Social Security or him, which one?

[B]

Well, I hope that you ain't got a husband on Social Security because I don't want some old fart trying to raise my grandchildren. That's my job.

[A]

There is just whatever happens is going to happen. Okay?

[B]

That's not true. What happens in life, we have a certain amount of control over. I could have not hired that thieving ass Mark Braddock and my ass wouldn't miss sitting in a camp. But I didn't pay attention. You get to pay attention. You look like this. Like this. You can go out here and pick and choose. You just don't know how to properly pick and choose.

[A]

To each their own. To each their own. Who knows?

[B]

Can you please try to focus on finding you a decent young man that is going to be a good father to my grandchildren and that's going to be good looking. I don't want no ugly grandkids.

[A]

I'm not going to have ugly grandkids.

[B]

My kids, my DNA can only carry you so far. So now you've had some sketchy ass looking people and that would have pulled my DNA down to a five.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

So you don't need to do that. You need to do what I tell you to do. Let me and your mama pick out who you're going to be with.

[A]

Like, what is this?

[B]

Like, I'm. It's the way it was done back in the 1800s.

[A]

This is not the 1800s, okay? This is 2020. Almost six.

[B]

So do you understand, back in the day, I could have married you off just by the promise of two mules and a wagon.

[A]

Okay, well, that's two mules and a wagon.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

If the mules. I need to see a Ferrari, maybe. Is that. If that can be a mule, then maybe we'll talk.

[B]

But do you. Do you see yourself, like, having a desire to be married?

[A]

Yes, I do. But like the thoughts of getting married scares me more than the thoughts of having kids.

[B]

I think that that's. And your mother and I have discussed that.

[A]

This.

[B]

I think that you view marriage as losing control.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know. I think I have a little bit of a fear.

[B]

Of what?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Listen, Savannah, at the end of the day, if you love someone, if you truly love them, you will ride with them. Well, like your mama to a prison. But you know, when you love someone.

[A]

I know, I know. I'll get there. But I don't know, I just think whenever it happens, it happens, but I'm, like, not in a rush.

[B]

We are.

[A]

Okay, well, as this episode is concluding, I don't know when I'm getting married or having children. They may be on Social Security or he may be on Social Security. Who knows? You can both share your benefits with me.

[B]

No, no, no. That's why she can't find no decent man. She's batshit crazy.

[A]

All right, well, thank you for coming on the podcast.

[B]

Well, I appreciate you having me. Now, where do I pick up my check? Should have Known. Freebies again.

[A]

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[B]

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