19: Manifestation Is Cute, But Let’s Talk Quantum

Summary

Podcast Summary: UNRULY WITH SHELAH MARIE

Episode 19: Manifestation Is Cute, But Let’s Talk Quantum

Release Date: February 11, 2025
Host: Shelah Marie
Guest: Deanna Chambers

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Introduction

In Episode 19 of Unruly with Shelah Marie, host Shelah Marie delves deep into the intricacies of the quantum field, moving beyond conventional ideas of manifestation. Joining her is Deanna Chambers, a visionary, intuitive business coach, strategist, professional speaker, and thought leader. Together, they explore how understanding the quantum field can transform personal growth and holistic wellness.

Icebreakers: Surprising Insights and Movie Comparisons

The episode kicks off with Shelah engaging Deanna in light-hearted icebreaker questions to set the tone for their in-depth discussion:

• Surprising Revelation: Deanna shares, “That everything exists all at once” (03:12).

• Quantum Field as a Movie: When asked to compare the quantum field to a movie, Deanna aptly chooses The Matrix, highlighting her affinity for complex, transformative narratives (03:23).

Understanding the Quantum Field

Shelah asks Deanna to explain the quantum field in simple terms, to which Deanna responds:

“The quantum field is like a big container of space where everything, everyone, and every possibility are connected. From a scientific perspective, nothing is actually solid and everything is just energy. This field is where infinite possibilities exist, and we can align ourselves with the reality we desire” (05:20).

Deanna emphasizes that the quantum field bridges both scientific principles and soulful intentions, offering limitless possibilities for personal and professional aspirations.

Personal Journeys and Quantum Discoveries

Discussing her journey, Deanna reveals how her various careers and challenging childhood experiences unknowingly led her to the quantum field:

“I had orchestrated my soul to go through challenging events to show me that I have this advanced soul path, which meant I had already signed up for the quantum work without even knowing it” (10:17).

This profound realization underscores the role of adversity in awakening one's connection to the quantum realm.

Quantum and Black Women: Embracing Infinite Power

Shelah inquires about the significance of the quantum field for Black women. Deanna passionately responds:

“I think that we are the quantum. Women of color have been suppressed because there's something to be afraid of. The quantum has our infinite power” (11:20).

She highlights that embracing the quantum field empowers Black women to reclaim their inherent strengths and possibilities.

Daily Practices for Quantum Alignment

Deanna shares practical routines to align with the quantum field:

1. Mindfulness and Breath Work: “Breath is the gateway to our body and soul. Through mindful breathing, we activate our parasympathetic nervous system, aligning us energetically to infinite possibilities” (12:45).

2. Energy, Strategy, and Action: She outlines a three-step approach:

   • Energy Alignment: Engage in mindfulness practices.
   • Strategy Planning: Define clear intentions and plans.
   • Taking Action: Execute with aligned energy (19:02).

Deanna emphasizes that consistent, simple practices can lead to profound shifts in one's reality.

Manifestation vs. Quantum: A Fundamental Distinction

A significant portion of the discussion contrasts traditional manifestation with quantum alignment. Deanna explains:

“Manifestation is associated with wanting and needing, implying something is lacking. The quantum, however, is about energy alignment with an outcome that already exists within you” (21:39).

Shelah further clarifies:

“Manifestation sends energy out from a place of longing, while quantum alignment tunes your internal frequency to already possess what you seek” (23:13).

This distinction shifts the narrative from seeking external validation to recognizing and embodying one's internal potential.

Addressing Misconceptions and Simplifying Quantum Concepts

Deanna addresses common misunderstandings about the quantum field, advocating for simplicity:

“The biggest misconception is that it needs to be challenging and difficult. It can be as simple as closing your eyes, taking a breath, and feeling grateful” (31:29).

She encourages listeners to adopt straightforward practices like gratitude and mindful breathing to harness the quantum's potential without overcomplicating the process.

Practical Tools and Takeaways

Towards the end of the episode, Shelah and Deanna provide actionable tools for listeners:

1. Create a Quantum Toolkit:

   • Energy Alignment: Practice mindfulness, meditation, or prayer.
   • Strategy Formation: Clearly define daily goals and intentions.
   • Consistent Action: Take aligned steps towards your desires (19:02).

2. Incremental Shifts:

   • Embrace small, consistent changes rather than sweeping overhauls.
   • Example: If desiring a partner, treat yourself as if your partner is already present by planning activities you would do together (24:05).

3. Non-Attachment Practices:

   • Release attachment to specific outcomes by focusing on other positive aspects of life.
   • Example: Shift focus from seeking validation to engaging in activities that bring joy and fulfillment (15:49).

4. Gratitude and Collective Healing:

   • Shift focus outward by meditating on others' well-being or engaging in acts of service to reset personal perspectives (40:29).

5. Affirmations and Ladder Statements:

   • Use broad affirmations like “Everything is always working out for me” instead of specific ones that may not resonate initially.
   • Gradually build towards more specific affirmations as your energy aligns (34:56).

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

As the conversation wraps up, Deanna reinforces the core message:

“You are the creator of your reality. When things feel challenging, shift your mindset to recognize that anything is possible and everything can work out for you” (42:54).

Shelah expresses her gratitude, highlighting the transformative insights gained from Deanna's expertise. She encourages listeners to engage with the content, share it, and apply the quantum principles to enhance their personal and professional lives.

Connecting with Deanna Chambers

For listeners interested in exploring the quantum field further, Deanna shares her contact information:

• Instagram and Threads: @DeannaChambers
• Services: Available on Stan Store at Stan Store/DeannaChambers

Listeners are invited to book a call, explore digital products, or engage in high-ticket coaching to activate their highest potential through Deanna's aligned access toolkit.

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Notable Quotes:

• Deanna Chambers: “The quantum field is like a big container of space where everything, everyone, and every possibility are connected” (05:21).

• Deanna Chambers: “Women of color have been suppressed because there's something to be afraid of. The quantum has our infinite power” (11:38).

• Deanna Chambers: “Manifestation is associated with wanting and needing, implying something is lacking. The quantum, however, is about energy alignment with an outcome that already exists within you” (21:39).

• Deanna Chambers: “You are the creator of your reality. When things feel challenging, shift your mindset to recognize that anything is possible and everything can work out for you” (42:54).

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Key Takeaways:

• Quantum Alignment Over Manifestation: Focus on aligning your internal energy with desired outcomes rather than sending energy outward from a place of lack.

• Simple Daily Practices: Incorporate mindfulness, breath work, and gratitude into daily routines to facilitate energy alignment.

• Non-Attachment and Letting Go: Release attachment to specific outcomes to allow the quantum field to manifest possibilities naturally.

• Empowerment for Black Women: Embracing the quantum field can be a powerful tool for liberation and reclaiming inherent strengths.

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Call to Action:

Listeners are encouraged to implement the discussed quantum practices, seek professional support if needed, and connect with Deanna Chambers for further guidance. Additionally, Shelah invites audience participation by submitting questions via SpeakPipe for future episodes.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Sheila Marie]

Welcome to Unruly. I'm your host, Sheila Marie. I'm an author, a fierce advocate for Black women, and the founder of the curvy curly conscious movement in this space. I'm sharing what I've learned on my own journey while sitting down with some amazing women who are all navigating their own paths to healing. Because there's no better time than now to get a little unruly. Welcome to Unruly, where we are diving into a topic that will absolutely expand how you think about what's possible for you in your life. We're talking quantum field, babes. You don't want to miss this. Okay, stop what you're doing right now, follow the show and share this episode with a friend right now. Because I'm tapping into the quantum field. And what I know to be true in advance is that you are going to love this episode and you're going to feel compelled to share it with someone in your life. So go ahead and do that now in advance. You see me, you see what I'm doing. I'm not tapping in. I am going to be sitting down today and talking with Deanna Chambers. This isn't just manifestation as we've come to know it. It's about working with the limitless possibilities of the universe in a way that's rooted in both science and soul. Joining us is Deonna Chambers, a visionary, intuitive, business coach, strategist, professional speaker and thought leader. Her work spans industries from coaching entrepreneurs to presenting for Fortune 500 companies like Sony, to being unruly with us. So welcome to the stage, Deiona. We are so happy to have you at Unruly.

[Deanna Chambers]

Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here today and get into The Quantum.

[Sheila Marie]

Yes. And for those who can't see, Deanna has amazing hair. It is literally like. This is when we started the natural hair movement. Everybody was trying to get this look right here. It's like the tr. Tracy Ellis Ross style. Beautiful tendrils, and I'm loving it. So I just had to give you that visual. Diana. We'd start with a little icebreakers. So I just want to, you know, break the ice a little bit. So I'm gonna ask you, like, a few fun questions, okay?

[Deanna Chambers]

Okay.

[Sheila Marie]

What's the most surprising or unexpected thing you've learned from your work in the quantum field?

[Deanna Chambers]

That everything exists all at once.

[Sheila Marie]

Okay, we'll talk more about that. And then if the Quantum field were a movie, what would the title be?

[Deanna Chambers]

The Matrix.

[Sheila Marie]

Ah, perfect. It's actually too perfect. Yeah, you're good with that. Okay, so you're a film girly. I love this. I watched your interview with the New York Film Academy, and I was, like, fangirling. I love this. I love how you. You really are the perfect person to speak to things quantum because you are it. You're an actress, a dancer, a host, a coach, et cetera. And I love that about you. And I want to say up front, for artists in particular, your approach is so valuable because a lot of artists are overtrained and underprepared. You know, they can sing opera, they know how to act, they know how to dance, they can dance on point. They can do all these things, but they have no idea what it takes to monetize those talents or to turn those talents into a business. And that can be very hard for creatives. So up front, I want to say thank you for the work that you're doing.

[Deanna Chambers]

Thank you. Yeah, I. All that work led me to be a coach, to be honest. It's how I landed here. So without that, I wouldn't be here. And I find that creatives, especially spiritual entrepreneurs, are underpaid because there's a consciousness of scarcity and poverty embedded in what we do. And that gets into a more macro conversation. But I am here to completely disrupt that and support people in making a lot of money, being creative and being spiritual.

[Sheila Marie]

Okay. Yeah, I need this. I. I am the one who needs this conversation too. I always find that I feel so guilty for charging for spiritual or healing work. And it's like this weird assumption, like, why should that be free? Why should you not be compensated for your labor? If you have to pay people to clean your house or pay people to provide any service, how is that any Different. So, yes, one more question for you. Oh, actually, no, let's dive into the quantum. Let's start here. Can you. What is it? Okay, we're bringing it up. We're talking about it. Can you explain the quantum field to me? Like, I'm five.

[Deanna Chambers]

Yes.

[Sheila Marie]

Six, seven, eight.

[Deanna Chambers]

Yeah, I was like, maybe eight.

[Sheila Marie]

Maybe eight, nine.

[Deanna Chambers]

So the quantum field is. Think of it as a big container of space and where everything and everyone and every possibility are connected. They're all together like one big family. From a scientific perspective and a subatomic perspective, nothing's actually solid and everything is just energy. And energy is intangible and tangible at the same time. Meaning it's real, but it's also not real. And this field is also a field where anything can happen. Infinite possibilities. Anything you can think of is possible. And what we learn in quantum healing is that we can actually align ourselves with. With that exact reality or outcome that we really, really, really desire or want.

[Sheila Marie]

I love that. I first heard of Quantum by the idea of quantum jumping. Are you familiar with that? Yes, of course you are. And I was. Somebody had recommended this book by Bert Goldman called Quantum Jumping. And in it he was saying exactly what you're saying, that if you can think it, it can exist. And that all of these things. He was basically saying, like, in a certain reality, I'm an opera singer. In another reality, I am a New York Times bestseller. In another reality, I'm like an expert gardener. And he was saying how he had played with these ideas throughout his life. And he was like, I. I recorded an album. I'm not the best singer. I wrote, obviously, these books. I mean, I'm not the best writer. And it really inspired me. And from there, I started quantum jumping. And that's how I created my company. That's how I met my husband that I'm married to now. Like, it was in these moments of going, I was. So when I started quantum jumping, I was so depressed. Didn't think there was a lot of things possible for me. And I would go into these daydreams in meditation. Well, I call them serious daydreaming. That's what I write them in my book. Because it just feels like daydreaming with, like, kind of a little purpose in there. But when I would go into these meditations, I'm like, I would see her so clearly and I memorized her energy and her feeling to the point that when circumstances would show up in my real third dimensional light that I needed to follow, that feeling would come up and I would Know, I don't know why, I don't know how, but I'm supposed to go this direction. So for you, what was like, was there a moment in your life where you realized that this quantum field, this working with these energetics was a game changer for your life and work?

[Deanna Chambers]

That's a really great question. Was there a point? Was there, like, a moment? I think at the heart, I'm a hopeless romantic. And so I think my access to the quantum has been through unconditional love. It's been when I've had these dynamic connections with individuals, mainly men, but even just the great conversation with a woman on the plane, right? Like, this has been my introduction to anything happening at any point. And that's how I got into this work, actually, was through deep soul connections. And I'm like, what? Because I wanted to understand, what is this? How could I meet someone and feel like I've already known them? And that is that question is what threw me into this work.

[Sheila Marie]

And so this wasn't a question I'd planned on asking you, but, guys, before we started recording, I was talking to Deanna, and she mentioned, is it okay for me to mention the soulmate comment?

[Deanna Chambers]

Totally. Okay.

[Sheila Marie]

I'm sorry I didn't ask you in advance, but she mentioned that she feels like she attracts soulmates all the time. And I would love if you could share a little bit more about this perspective, because so many women might find this really comforting. Because I don't know about you, but I don't like the idea that some people think we only have one soulmate. And so if you miss it, if you don't get them, if it doesn't work. You know what I mean?

[Deanna Chambers]

Firstly, and this I believe, is more mainstream knowledge now, soulmates can be anything and anyone, right? So a soulmate, it doesn't have to be romantic. A soulmate could be your twin sister, brother. A soulmate could be your dog. A soulmate could be a teacher that expanded your consciousness in the quantum, right? And from college. I actually have a teacher like that that I can think of right now. And it could be a lover. We were taught through mainstream media that a soulmate is typically attached to romanticism. And it can be, but that actually isn't the core frequency of what a soulmate is. I know for me, a lot of my lessons have been through that angle of romanticism and love. However, what I'm realizing now as I work in the quantum and being a coach, is that really, it's just the frequency that makes it a soulmate because there's a soul connection. There's a soul contract that exists with you and another soul that draws you to each other, which it feels like, oh my God, I feel like I've known you forever. Because you have, you have known them. You didn't just meet them in this incarnation. You have history.

[Sheila Marie]

I feel that all the time. All the time. I'm like, wait a minute, I don't know you, but I do. And okay, so for you, how has your personal journey shaped the way you approach the quantum field? And like, all of the possibilities that.

[Deanna Chambers]

Could exist with my personal journey, definitely, as I was mentioning, being an artist, right? Having had so many different careers already, being in my mid-30s, I've already been a professional cheerleader. I was a dancer, I worked in the. I've worked in the startup space. I still do actually. I became a coach. I've had like five lifetimes already. And I feel like that without knowing it, as even a young girl. That was the start of it, if you think about it, right. I lived in Nairobi, Kenya for two years as a, as a kid. How many Americans do you know have done that? So without knowing it, I had orchestrated my soul, had orchestrated these series of events and very, very challenging childhood and adversity in order to show me that I have this advanced soul path, which meant I had already signed up for the quantum work without even knowing it. So it was through actually pain and adversity and trauma that I actually was introduced to the quantum.

[Sheila Marie]

Wow. Do you think that it's important specifically for black women to be interested in the quantum field?

[Deanna Chambers]

I think that we are the quantum. Tell me specifically, I think that women of color mean. Why do you think that we're suppressed? Because there's something to be afraid of.

[Sheila Marie]

And what's in the quantum that could assist us?

[Deanna Chambers]

Your infinite power.

[Sheila Marie]

Okay. And so what would you say to the person? Because I feel like I can hear them now. The people are like, I don't know, I guess it's too woo woo. Like, yeah, yeah, there's all these realities, but this is the one I'm in right now and this is the one I'm experiencing.

[Deanna Chambers]

And that's true, that this is the only reality, the one right now. It's just that when you desire something, you are tuning your frequency internally to then see the physical results of that. Evidence. Right? You want evidence? But what we were taught is evidence first, then change. What we're teaching is energy first, alignment first, then you see it. And great examples of that. If you don't believe in all this is when you just show up and there's parking or someone offers to pay for your coffee or some bill you thought you had. You don't have these random little coincidences that you think are just chance or not. It's you having already, on a subconscious level, attuning your frequency to that thing happening before it did.

[Sheila Marie]

Mm. And so for you, like, on a daily basis, is there. Are there any specific practices or routines that you use to align yourself to the quantum field?

[Deanna Chambers]

Yes, and I love that question. This is a lot simpler than I think people want to make it. Uh, it actually just starts with mindfulness. That is literally the gateway in is through breath. It's. It's actually simple. So breath. Yeah. So breath is the gateway to our body, but also our soul. So think of the breath. If it right. If as you breathe in and as you exhale, you're aligning all aspects of yourself, what happens is we hold our breath. We oftentimes are operating in a survival state. Right. We are in survival node mode. When we breathe, we activate our parasympathetic nervous system, and that activation in itself begins to align us on an energetic level to infinite possibilities. If you're operating in survival mode, then you're operating in lower frequencies. You're not going to see the evidence of the thing you desire. So that's. That's why you feel stuck every day is the evidence.

[Sheila Marie]

Are you arguing that the evidence is there and that you don't see it, or that the actual evidence is always.

[Deanna Chambers]

There, but are you paying attention to it, or are you paying attention to what isn't there and what isn't working? Because that's also just the mindset Chef, too, right?

[Sheila Marie]

Yeah. You know what this really makes me think of? Marianne Williamson's A Return to Love. She has a quote in there. Like, sometimes the miracle is just a shift in perspective. And I still pray. I keep that in my prayers all the time. Like, when I'm asking for miracles, I include in there, hey, even if it's just me seeing things in a new way, that is a miracle.

[Deanna Chambers]

That is a miracle. I was stuck in the twin flame universe, like, not the show and the conspiracy on Netflix, not the cult, just to be clear. But I was stuck in this labeling for so long that I allowed it to rob me of everything that I wanted. Everything that I wanted was right here. It was me. I was searching for me all along. And that shift in itself for me, was a miracle, because now I had. And then I woke up, and I Was like, oh, I have peace now. After three years of being imprisoning myself in something that is still real. I still. Of course it's real. We're talking quantum. I was looking for me the whole time. And that shift in perspective in itself changed my life. It's why I'm on this podcast right now. It's why I'm speaking the way that I am, because I still believe it's real. It's just I was attached. And if you're attached to something, you push it away.

[Sheila Marie]

Oof. Wait, wait, what was. What was that? I need you to say that again.

[Deanna Chambers]

When you're attached to something, you push it away.

[Sheila Marie]

Tell me more.

[Deanna Chambers]

So energetically. When I release something and let it go. This is like ancient, right? This is like Buddhist practice. When you release something and let go of it, only then would you truly know if it's for you. And it will come to you. You don't have to do anything.

[Sheila Marie]

How do you think. How. This is just a maybe a selfish question. How do you practice your. Because I know I have my ideas. But how would you practice non attachment with, like, children, with husbands, wives, like the people that are very close to you on a daily basis?

[Deanna Chambers]

Well, our children are the embodiment of the quantum. They are the embodiment of detachment. They shift through things almost instantly. They could be in something for 20 minutes, but that's the maximum. If you really watch them, maybe 45. But the moment that a child, a young child, let's say under 8 years old, lets go of something that we would deem as negative or, you know, making them difficult, they are immediately shifted into something else. They show us this every day. They are the teachers. They are the gurus.

[Sheila Marie]

You know what? I am a bonus mom. So I don't have children of my own, but my husband has two children. And I feel like the most supreme lesson I learned from being a bonus mom is non attachment is the dance between holding them so closely, loving them so much, and then understanding. I actually don't have authority over you. Like, you know, you're not. I don't own you. You're not mine. Like, I have to release. And I'm like, wow, that is. I'm sure that's a parent thing in general. Like, when I become a mom, I'm sure I still have to deal with that. You can love a child closely, dearly, and they can grow up and say, I want to go join the circus. You know, you never know. So these ideas of non attachment are always interesting to me and I think that I've been. I don't know about you guys listening, but I know me, it's been a struggle sometimes to work through it. To me, it almost feels like it oscillates like a pendulum. Like, I get. I get moments of really being attached, and then I go, oh, I'm too attached. I need to go the other way.

[Deanna Chambers]

And I think also, like, what I'm learning is, let's remove. I need to do this, or I should be doing this, or this should have happened by now. Right. Because a lot of what detachment is, it's also just accepting everything all at once. Detachment can just be the art of saying, okay, I see that this is here. I'm noticing this is here. That in itself is the first step to actually detaching, is letting it exist.

[Sheila Marie]

Ooh.

[Deanna Chambers]

If you feel like you need to detach, you're not detaching. You're. You're still holding on. Still.

[Sheila Marie]

There's still a. There's still. You're. What is. You're attached to a specific outcome.

[Deanna Chambers]

Correct.

[Sheila Marie]

Still. Right.

[Deanna Chambers]

And oftentimes, one of the easiest tools to detach is to just focus on something else that you actually want to be doing. That's.

[Sheila Marie]

Can you give us an example?

[Deanna Chambers]

Yeah. So I was so attached to this whole concept of twin flames and twin flame union that it drove me mad. And then In November of 2024, I had this crazy spiritual activation, and I just decided to reshift my focus back to my business. Go all the way in.

[Sheila Marie]

Okay.

[Deanna Chambers]

And I noticed as I've been doing that with physical action steps every day, non. Woo, woo. But just taking action on my business every single day that I've been. I've given myself. I have gifted myself detachment through refocusing my energy to something that I really enjoy, to something that's lighting me up, and to something that's changing the world.

[Sheila Marie]

That is so empowering and freeing. A big part of why I wrote the book Unruly and why I started this podcast. Unruly is liberation for women. I just want women to be more liberated. And I think that piece of information that you just shared right there could provide so much liberation. I think it would be like a daily practice. Right. How do you. How do you put it into practice?

[Deanna Chambers]

Yeah. I would love to go over what a soft routine might look like, because I think that that would be supportive. Right. When we. We have these podcasts, we listen and we're inspired. We're like, okay, but what do I do about it? And part of what I Coach on is it's energy, strategy and action. Because when they're all three aligned, that's when we're going to see actual evidence in our 3D reality that something is working. So one of the first thing, energy is in my case, right? Mindfulness, breathing, breath work, meditation. And I, I'm not going to tell you to pick one or the other. I would just say explore what mindfulness looks like for you, which is stillness. It's not being on your phone, it's not being on screens. Right. It's sitting in stillness. And you can use music if you want, or binaural beats, things of that nature. Stillness. If you like prayer, you can be praying as well. Stillness, right? That's energy alignment. And then specifically, like in business, right, like, then we're talking about strategy. What is the plan for today? And if you're not, you know, working on a business, that's also fine. But I'm still talking about shifting the focus to something else. What's the plan for today? How am I going about doing what I'm doing and being clear about that, having crystal clear intention. Even if you're planning a beautiful meal for your partner, Right. It still takes a plan. What is that plan? What is the energy I'm bringing to the plan? And then the third step is then, okay, what are the actions that are associated with that? As women, we wake up and we go through the to do list right away, but we're not aligned. We haven't done any practice to pour into ourselves first. And so then you get this like scattered, chaotic energy and you're wondering why things aren't changing. Well, this is why. So for me, it's about energy. Energy alignment. Right through mindfulness. Then we're reviewing what, what we'd like to see happen. We're reviewing the strategy, we are reviewing the plan. And then third, from that space of alignment and crystal clear focus, we're taking action.

[Sheila Marie]

Yeah, it's almost like it sounds like the difference between like laser energy and leaf blower energy. When I don't take that moment to center myself. In the beginning of my day, I'm doing things, I'm spending a lot of energy. But at the end of the day I'm like, what did I even do? Like what? You know, I'm just chaotic, like busy for the sake of being busy, where I find that if I center myself and I'm more centered, I might not even work as many hours. It might not even seem like I did a lot. And then I look back and I'm like, wow, oh, I did this. I made this call. But the call didn't feel like a big call versus if I didn't meditate, it might take up all of this energy in my mind. And so I love that note. I want to actually talk about the difference between manifestation and the quantum field.

[Deanna Chambers]

Yes. I think manifestation is associated with wanting and this kind of ongoing wanting and needing a lot of the time. And I think where the quantum is different is tapping into. The quantum is about energy alignment with an outcome that already exists. And while manifestation is the foundational block to that, I think where we get stuck in the community of manifesting is we're constantly still wanting something. And if you're constantly still wanting something, it means you don't have it. When I tap into the quantum and I tap into the field of infinite possibilities, I'm only just shifting my energetic alignment to then see that play out of my 3D reality. Big difference. And I can use tools for manifestation. I can use affirmations to support the energy alignment. But those on their own, those practices on their own, in my opinion, aren't enough. And it will still lead you around the cycle. And this dance of trying to get something outside of you that already exists in you because it is you. Everything is you, just projected outwardly. Your partner is a version of you just in another body and possibly a different gender.

[Sheila Marie]

I, I do this all the time. I talk to women all the time. I know these concepts in and out, I practice them. And every time I hear it articulated again in a different way, my mind is just like fireworks. Like neurons are firing, wiring together. Because I'm over here. Like, she's so right. Everybody is you and everything is you. So I guess what to reiterate, I just want to make sure I get this. So manifestation is different because it's sending energy out. Right. Like I want, like it's a longing.

[Deanna Chambers]

Well, I think it's not technically the, the, the teachings of manifestation is not a longing. But I think where we're. I'm kind of addressing the problem with the community. I think what people start assuming or where it can become a roadblock for you is it's about something outside of you. I'm trying to manifest something. Well, if you're trying to manifesting something.

[Sheila Marie]

Then you're saying you don't have it.

[Deanna Chambers]

Yeah. And from an energy standpoint, you do actually already contain inside of your soul the, the frequency of that desire. So if it already exists in you, why would you be trying to get something?

[Sheila Marie]

Okay, so let's take a hypothetical. I am. Let's say I'm. I'm a single woman and I really desire a partner, a romantic partner. What would you tell me to do? Like, I'm just. I'm tired of. I'm so lonely. My career is doing well, but I just really want someone to share my life with.

[Deanna Chambers]

Well, number one, there's nothing wrong to identify something that you're desiring, Right? So, like, I want to also clarify. It's okay to identify a desire because the desire has been put on your heart by the creator, by God, whatever you believe, because you are meant to experience it in some capacity. Where we get stuck really quick is the attachment piece. The desire in itself is pure because it was given to you. It was put on your heart from a pure space of connection to the source, to God. So there's nothing wrong with the desire itself. It's what we do with the desire that becomes challenging or creates.

[Sheila Marie]

What should we do with the desire?

[Deanna Chambers]

Once you recognize this is something I desire, it's attuning into the internal state that it already exists. Meaning you almost treat yourself like your partner. You're like, okay, well, what it would be like if I assume the reality. I take myself out on dates.

[Sheila Marie]

This is exactly what I did.

[Deanna Chambers]

I plan out dinners that I would be cooking for my partner. For me. I set up a movie that I really want to watch with my partner, but I watch it by myself. And I don't feel. And I'm tapping into it already being here, not into the lack of him not sitting next to me, but like, oh, I can feel his energy. Like, it's here. It's here right now.

[Sheila Marie]

I love that you're just doing.

[Deanna Chambers]

You're taking the action steps that you would normally take, but in the energy of, like, yeah, I can feel him because, like, right now, when I smile, I can feel the energy of him.

[Sheila Marie]

I can see it on you.

[Deanna Chambers]

I see right here. Yeah, but that's it. Because that means it's what? It's here inside of me already. And like, a face came to mind just now, right. Because there's someone that I, you know, love. But, like, because he's here. Does that make sense? Like, I can really see him right now. I can feel his energy even though his body isn't here. Right. So that is number one. And that's the same thing. If you want to buy a Porsche, go test drive one so you can memorize.

[Sheila Marie]

Yep.

[Deanna Chambers]

What that little clock looks like on the dashboard in Porsches. And then the emblem on the steering wheel, right? And so then you're looking down and.

[Sheila Marie]

You'Re like, like, okay, well, I love one thing, I love to remind my audience is tapping into that sensory experience of something that you are seeking to have in your life. Like that though we, we over prioritize doing things through the mind and the logical brain, which I think is great. But like that smelling, like you said, smelling the scent of that car, you know, touching it. How does it, how does the leather feel? Or imagine yourself walking through the house and you got to make a. A left turn because there's a corner there. Like all of that, you know what I mean? It activates so much reality in your mind and helps you. To me, it. It two things. One, I feel like it helps you. Like, I feel like it helps you recognize. That's the word, not resonate. Recognize when you find it. Like, it's almost like a piano key. Like thing. It's the same key.

[Deanna Chambers]

Oh, I know that exactly. Because then your brain doesn't know the difference between it being not real and real. Because you're literally, you're. You are saturating yourself with the frequency of that thing. And then you do that enough, eventually it will show up in your reality. But this is another thing we need to talk about is you need to consistently do it. It's like going to the gym. You're not going to become toner and all of a sudden have a six pack. If you go to the gym once a week, that's not going to.

[Sheila Marie]

Boo.

[Deanna Chambers]

I know.

[Sheila Marie]

Kidding. Just kidding. That's me. I go to the gym once. I'm like, do I have abs yet?

[Deanna Chambers]

You're like, why aren't they here? Why isn't my booty bigger? I've been doing all the hip thrusts that I saw the girls do on TikTok and IG. Like, hello, I love this.

[Sheila Marie]

I really want to emphasize here. One thing I think that goes a long way is small consistent changes over big sweeping ones that you can't keep up. Guys, I'm guilty of this because I do, like, just do it all and I'm going to eat only vegan. And like, you know, like, the small changes add up as well. I do want to bring up the double slit experiment. I feel that whenever we're talking about quantum field, this is like the Canon experiment. Experiment that everyone will bring up. And I'm. You probably may have heard this. If you're listening to me, you probably already know it, but I feel like I should say it just in case. And Diana, if I get anything wrong, just cut me off and interrupt me and just correct me, because you're the expert on this. But basically, the scientists sent these light particles through these slits, and they were expecting that the light would go through the slits and come out in, like, two neat piles on the other side. And then they didn't. They were like, breaking up. It was like these interference patterns. So, like, they were turning into light, was turning into waves and moving around. And the scientists were like, hold on, hold on, hold on. The light is not doing what we expected it to do. It's supposed to just go into these slits and then come out on the other side in these neat piles. And it's breaking up and doing all these waves and crazy stuff. Let's just observe it. I'm just gonna look at it, and we're gonna see at what point they break into waves just so we can, you know, see what's going on. And when they observe the waves. Well, when they observed the light particles, there was no waves. They acted differently. They did not split up into waves. And they went through on the other side into those two little neat piles that they were expecting. So this is the observer effect. And it's basically the argument that these subatomic particles behave differently depending on how they're being observed. And so this is the link between, like, law of Attraction and manifestation that it says, like, reality doesn't exist until it's observed. Or it depends on the observer. And your relationship to observing things around you changes it. Did I. How did I do that?

[Deanna Chambers]

Yeah, that was perfect. And also. No, that was beautiful. And. Exactly. Because it depends on who's looking at the mirror.

[Sheila Marie]

So. So how do you. Yeah, tell us.

[Deanna Chambers]

The universe is. The universe is only giving back to you what you're. What you're putting out. So if you're expecting. Let's give a tangible example. If you're expecting this guy, he's not going to text you back. He is not going to text you back.

[Sheila Marie]

But what if I expect him to text. What if I expect him to text me back and he doesn't?

[Deanna Chambers]

Then on a subconscious level, there's a mismatch again, right? Your subconscious is its own entity. So on a subconscious level, because of unhealed trauma. Right? Because that's what it comes down to in the human experience. Something's unhealed, something's blocking it consciously. You could be like, oh, no, he's gonna text me. I got this. But subconsciously, if all of your past wounds and trauma, not just in the human experience. But on a soul level have not been healed. And they're saying, no, he's not. Because also your grandma, great grandma and all them also have that same shared experience that they've passed down that you have not worked on yet. He's not going to. Or maybe it will be delayed. Right. So if we are majority, we are, we are majority subconscious thought. We're only about 5%. And this, this research is always changing. So don't, don't, you know, don't take this as fact, but about 5% is conscious thought. We have over 70,000 plus thoughts per day. So if, if at the, in the end of the day you believe he's not going to majority, right. Let's just call it 90%. But 10% does. He won't or it will take a while. Right. So this is the observer effect. Right? So if I'm observing and this is what's running in the background, this is my core processing says I'm not actually worthy to be chosen. I'm not worthy to have a man prioritize me. I'm not worthy to have that job. I'm not actually worthy to drive that car because blank, blank, blank, blank, then that's going to be the outcome that you continue to observe and witness and see in your reality.

[Sheila Marie]

Do you feel like there's any big misconceptions about manifestation or quantum that you like that just bugs you and you're like, I want to set the record straight about this.

[Deanna Chambers]

I really believe the biggest thing that I also did and the kind of not. I don't want to call it a mistake because again, everything is divine reassignment. I really believe that we always adequate where we're meant to be is I think that we still come from it from an angle of like, I have to do something. That's the biggest misconception. Step one is always the energy. It's the alignment of feeling the thing. Like I'm smiling because I'm just feeling just the energy of potential right now. And I think if we could, if we could allow it to be that simple, then the quantum and manifesting would be we. I think that's the miss. The biggest thing that irks me is like it doesn't need to be challenging, it doesn't need to be difficult. Sometimes it might be sure, because life is full of contrast. And Abraham Hicks talks a lot about contrast, which is contrast is a gift because it allows us to understand where we need to shift our frequency. But if we would stop making it so damn difficult and realize how can.

[Sheila Marie]

We make it easier? I'm guilty of this.

[Deanna Chambers]

You see how I took a step back and I just like close my eyes and I took a breath and I just think about something that makes me feel good. Like I. My son's smiling. My son listening this morning.

[Sheila Marie]

Aww.

[Deanna Chambers]

Like that makes me smile. It's simple. It's so simple.

[Sheila Marie]

Guys. It's simple. If you, if you are listening, you can take a second. If you're driving, don't close your eyes, but you can take a second and tap into. Well, Diana, you say, I don't want to mess up how you said it.

[Deanna Chambers]

Yeah, just take a second to reconnect back to the breath that's number one all the time. I don't care what your religion is, if you think I'm crazy or not, if you think the quantum is real or not. If something isn't working in your life right now, we get to do a better job of just taking a second to stop every single thing that we're doing in this moment and take a breath and remember that you're living today and that your body is working and supporting your existence. And that in itself is a miracle.

[Sheila Marie]

And I want to say, guys, when I started doing this work, I, it was, I almost see it just like you referenced, like training, like physical, like working out, you know, I had to do it multiple times a day. And as Diana said, it doesn't have to be. You don't have, like I used to be at work. Like, you don't have to go into a full on meditation if you're at work. But taking a second, pausing, resetting that nervous system, tapping into. If your boss is frustrating you, tapping into, oh my gosh, I love my job. I have the most peaceful relationship with my boss. Even if you don't see it reflected in your third dimensional right now, tap into that energy as much as you can. I used to do this all day, all day. I had to realign myself all day until that became the predominant energetic experience that I was having. Yeah, okay. Diana is saying, yes, yes, yes.

[Deanna Chambers]

So beautiful. That was so beautiful. And I also want to add, you might be listening to this right now and things may not be going well. So first and foremost, that's okay. And sometimes the best thing you can repeat to yourself as a mantra is everything is always working out for me. Because then doesn't have to be specific. You don't have to attach something, an affirmation or a mantra that just, just isn't resonating because I know that was where My biggest hang up came personally was I was saying these things. I just didn't.

[Sheila Marie]

And I'm like, I don't think.

[Deanna Chambers]

I don't believe this isn't real, but I can get on board with a ladder, right? A ladder affirmation or a ladder mantra or a ladder statement that I could take a little shift. Okay, you know what? I don't see the plan right now. I don't see how it's working for me, but I'm open. But that right there could be a ladder, right. Because remember, or a step in the ladder. If you're. If the disparity between the outcome that you desire and you are over here, if it's too large, some of these things aren't gonna work. Let's just be honest. Depending on where you're at frequency wise, I know for me, like when I'm on my period, I get very negative. So sometimes things like that don't work. So sometimes I'm like, you know what? I know that right now what would feel really good is if I just take a second, sit down and rest. And then. Okay, I'm starting to feel more relaxed. You know what? Now that I think about it, everything is working out for me. It is working out. I may not see exactly how yet it's working out for me. And then you know what? Yeah. That our relationship is improving, for example. Yep. I believe that it's all working out. We've resolved our conflict. Yeah. It's starting to feel really good. And then it's like this. It's kind of. Abraham Hicks talks a lot about this. Right. It's sort of like you take where you're at and you just take little steps with your words, your self talk. And then you get to the point where it starts to improve little by little. And maybe it's not that same day, but maybe the next morning you're like, you know what? Yeah, my boss and I, we do have a peaceful relationship. It's all working out. The steps are now presenting. The steps are now showing themselves to me. Right.

[Sheila Marie]

Yeah. This like incremental or this. It's incremental.

[Deanna Chambers]

That was perfect. It's incremental.

[Sheila Marie]

Yeah.

[Deanna Chambers]

Criminal shifting with self talk. Right.

[Sheila Marie]

Is.

[Deanna Chambers]

Is really depending on where you're at. I'm just sort of like giving this as an option for those who might be listening that are like this. I don't believe in this, like, for sure. Sorry, Diana. Sorry, Sheila.

[Sheila Marie]

Not feeling it.

[Deanna Chambers]

Not feeling it. So.

[Sheila Marie]

And I respect that.

[Deanna Chambers]

I do too. And I think it's important That I know in this, in this work in manifestation in the quantum, we get excited because we're like, I love this. And depending on where you might be at, which was also me, even like a year ago, six months ago, I was like, I don't, I don't. You know what? I need to take a step back. And I did. I had one of my soulmates pass away actually, and from college. He was one of them and he was so beautiful. And he passed away. And I had, that's what I did. I had to be like, you know what? I just need to take a step back from all this stuff for a second. And I did. And I was traveling and I was going out and I was like doing things that were a little bit more like 3D that I would have judged. But I needed to do that. I needed to just take a step back from all of this and just be human.

[Sheila Marie]

And so what would you say? This is the final thing before we move on to our toolkit. But like, what would you say? Man, It's. We're in 20, 25 is very unstable times. People are feeling really uncertain. I could, I could hear and I could understand how some people could be like, I don't have time to think about all this quantum stuff because the world is crazy right now. And I'm trying. The price of eggs is crazy and I'm trying to keep it together. And what would you say to the discouraged listener right now that is like, I want change. I do desire a different experience and I'm feeling. But I don't know if I have the energy. I kind of don't know if I can find the hope to get into it.

[Deanna Chambers]

I believe that seeking outside support is the first step if you're in that space. I, I still fully believe in old school therapy. And there are so many beautiful modalities now that are actually very similar to the things we're talking about. There's so many beautiful options that are not just talk therapy. So I would just, number one, I would actually seek support, professional support. Right? Because you, you're not supposed to do this alone. We, we did incarnate as humans because we are meant to be doing this together. We're mammals. At the end of the day, we can't. We need co regulation, even with nervous system work. One thing that I love about the experts, I'm not a nervous system expert, but I obviously embed it in a lot of my coaching because it's necessary and it's relevant. And I realized in my own life that CO regulation, CO nervous system regulation is super important. And that can look like a therapist, right? Or a coach or healer or a guide. We all need that. Especially if you're in that space where, like you just said, where you're like, I just don't feel hopeful right now. I'm. I'm frustrated. I don't like the political climate. Economically, things are not working in my favor. I get that. That's real, you know, and for those who are analytical and maybe don't think this way, they might, you know, that's a great next step, I believe.

[Sheila Marie]

I love that. And I also want to add too, I just thought about Elizabeth Gilbert, Eat, Pray, Love, which I know a lot of people might think is cheesy and corny now, but I, I love her. One thing I remember that she wrote in her book was that a tool, one tool that she. That works for her is when you're. I also read this in the book called the Power of Eight. It's like, it's all about how collective healing and power is important. But anyway, she was saying when she's really down, she meditates on someone else. And I. This is such a trick that works for me every time. Like, I remember my nephew was struggling with something one time and he was really young and I was going through a hard time and I just sat every day and I would meditate, like for peace for him or for healing for him. You can also do metta meditation, which includes the Buddhist meditation, but taking the focus off of yourself and actually wishing good for others and. Or go out and helping others. I just take. Joined this agency called Hot Mess Express and we like, clean women's houses. I love cleaning.

[Deanna Chambers]

Wait, what? You'll have to give me the info. I'm like, I know. Where are you based?

[Sheila Marie]

In Atlanta.

[Deanna Chambers]

Oh, wait, we're in la so we can hang out.

[Sheila Marie]

I know, but you know what? My bestie lives in la, so I'm always there. And by the way, sending love and light. I can't.

[Deanna Chambers]

Oh yeah, we didn't even get into that. I have a whole. I. I was pissing a lot of people off with my posts because I was just like, like, yeah, it's so.

[Sheila Marie]

Much we were talking about the other day and I'm like, it's very spiritual.

[Deanna Chambers]

So we were like.

[Sheila Marie]

I'm like, yeah, it's loaded.

[Deanna Chambers]

It is loaded. And I also have a massive empathy and I have friends, my whole community. People lost everything. So it's not like I'm detached. I mean, I'm here Tragic.

[Sheila Marie]

And so we're sending love to LA and beyond. But yeah, just the. If you. If you. If you feel like you can't find it, if you feel like you can't find the hope, always a good. A good reset, a good trick is. Is. Is thinking about for someone else, like, wishing good for someone else, wishing healing for someone else. In a weird way, it can reset you and make you find the silver lining that maybe you can't find for yourself.

[Deanna Chambers]

Absolutely. And that's. That's beautiful. And I also believe it's kind of the same thing with gratitude, right? When we shift our focus to just being grateful for the people in our lives. Right. Or the things that we do actually have. And remember, we're living in a former answered prayer. We're living in a former manifestation right now. That in itself can just shift. Shift your focus to the other thing that you get to focus on so that you can practice detachment every day in your life. And it doesn't need to be. It doesn't have to be complicated. It can just be simple. And it can just be asking someone for a hug. I did that last week on or two weeks ago on a job. I'm a professional speaker for Sony, and I was feeling really lonely, and I was like, can I have a hug? Like, Because I'm like. Because I knew that I needed that. And I'm like, I can hug myself, which I do do. But I realized, like, we are not supposed to do this alone. We're not.

[Sheila Marie]

We're not. And we're not. And that's why we're gonna give you a piece of a tool, a new tool for your toolkit. Okay. Because we are definitely in this together. So we love to end each episode with giving them a practical tool, like a tangible thing that they can. You've actually given many during this interview, so if you want to just reference one that you gave already, you can reiterate it. But what can they do? Like, what. What is one tangible takeaway with this quantum work?

[Deanna Chambers]

A tangible takeaway is just realizing that you are the creator of your reality. So when it feels like things are too difficult or too challenging or that things are just seemingly happening, Happening to you in a way where you're at a loss. The simple shift of, I'm the creator of my reality, anything is possible, and everything can work out for me. That's number one.

[Sheila Marie]

Number one. And there you have it. All right, Deanna. This has been such a transformation. Transformative. I don't know why I can't talk today. It's Friday, guys. By the way, Deanna, this has just been amazing. I found myself having my own aha Moments throughout the whole interview. Thank you for just walking us through the quantum and reminding us of our power to shift our own energy and shift our life. For all of the listeners who are going to want to follow you and find you and work with you, can you please let them know where. Where they can follow up with you?

[Deanna Chambers]

Absolutely. So I primarily, I mean, I'm on everything. My primary platform for those who are interested in kind of like what I post about every day is Instagram and Threads. Threads has been popping off for me. So it's just at Deanna Chambers. And all of my services are actually all on Stan Store. It's very simple. So if you go to Stan's, the Stan Store website and then just slash Deanna Chambers, everything's there. So you can book a call with me. I have digital products starting at $47 to support with activating your highest potential in the quantum through my aligned access toolkit. And then I have high ticket coaching options too. So everything's there.

[Sheila Marie]

Awesome. And say that website one more time.

[Deanna Chambers]

So it's Stan Store, Deanna Chambers.

[Sheila Marie]

So we'll also link that in the description for viewers who want to find you. And Deanna, thank you for taking the time to talk to us. We appreciated having you on Unruly. Stay safe in la and this probably will not be the last time you hear from her. Okay. We'll be probably doing something more in the future. I could see there's so much to talk about.

[Deanna Chambers]

I know.

[Sheila Marie]

I found.

[Deanna Chambers]

Yeah, you're welcome.

[Sheila Marie]

If you have something on your mind, a A question or something you want me to answer, just send in a voice [e-mail] unruly I can't wait to hear from you. Thank you so much for listening. Be sure to follow or subscribe so you never, ever, ever, ever miss an episode of Unruly.

[Deanna Chambers]

Foreign.