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Amy Nicholson
Welcome to Unspoiled's Real Confessions, the show where we dim the lights and ask our guests to bare their cinematic souls. We're talking about the movies they love, the ones they hate, the films they're embarrassed to admit they own, and the reasons you might not want to sit next to them in a dark theater. Today, stepping into the confessional, we've got Lauren the Lapkis.
Paul Scheer
Lauren, how are you?
Lauren Lapkus
I'm so good. I'm so excited.
Paul Scheer
I. You know, I'm such a fan of everything that you do. Besides being a fantastically funny actress, a comedian, you also, I think, come to movies. When you and Nicole did your series and you went through a bunch of different genres, the way that you both approached them was one of my favorite things, because, you know, whether it was Lord of the Rings or Fast and the Furious, like, you came in very, like, with, I think, observations that I would. That don't normally hear on movie podcasts, that made me laugh so hard.
Lauren Lapkus
Thank you so much. Yeah, it was really fun. That podcast newcomers that we did, like, we had, you know, we were watching movies that we never thought we would watch.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Lauren Lapkus
So, like, I thought I was gonna avoid Star wars my entire life, but. And I think Nicole did, too. We just didn't think about it. And then, you know, getting to sit down with her and watch it was so great, because it's, like, it's the perfect context to get to talk about it, where you just. You can explore all the things that people don't talk about, which is, like, how sexy some of the alien characters are.
Paul Scheer
I mean, that's finally right. I do think that there is something about seeing a classic film with some distance. Like, my wife June just watched the Godfather for the first time.
Lauren Lapkus
I saw it for the first time a few years ago. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
And it was like. And it was so funny because she was addressing it, like, well, this is all in the conversation. Like, we were out at dinner, and she's like, now, let me ask you a question. Now, why does Michael, when he's insisting, like, wait, what are you talking about? Yeah.
Lauren Lapkus
Like, we're, like, questioning things that everyone's just taken for granted for, like, 50 million years. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Books have been written on it.
Lauren Lapkus
Yeah. It's so true.
Amy Nicholson
No, but it's astonishing, like, how much there is left to learn. Like, I watch movies all day, every day, and it wasn't until I went on Newcomers that I realized the Aviator was not about Amelia Earhart.
Lauren Lapkus
I just never bothered to watch it.
Amy Nicholson
I always thought it was Amelia Earhart.
Lauren Lapkus
Movie. That movie was mind blowing to me because I didn't know anything. I don't even think I had that in my head. So it was.
Paul Scheer
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Paul Scheer
Unschooled well, we are gonna get into your cinematic soul here, and I wanted to start out with an easy question. There are movies that we love, movies that defined us as a child. But I know for me, I have a few that I refuse to ever watch again because I'm afraid that if I watch them now, they will be ruined. I can think of a handful in my head like I never wanted to watch Dumb and Dumber again because I enjoyed it so much that I was like, it will never make me laugh as hard as this, so I must
Lauren Lapkus
block it off yeah, well, you know, I have. I. I kind of my whole life. There are only a few movies I would watch over and over again. Besides, like, as a kid we had vhs and so you would just watch those over and over. But, like, if I saw something and loved it into my adulthood, I just, like, wouldn't watch it again. I would just be like, that's my favorite movie. And then I wouldn't watch it again. Like, Children of Men randomly is one that I'm thinking of that I was like, that's my favorite movie. And then I've only seen it once. I love that. Yeah. But I like, I was like, that's the best. And then. So, like, I have a lot of movies that I've re. That I have rewatched. Like, Big is my. Is like my favorite movie. I've seen that a million times. I even watched it when I was in labor at the hospital. Oh, wow. I love 13 on 30.
Paul Scheer
Does that, like, affect it in a way? Like, I remember one time when I was a kid, I drank mint tea and then I vomited very badly. And the smell of mint tea, even to this day, I'm like, oh, I can't do minty.
Lauren Lapkus
It did change it a little bit for me because I have put it on since then and it's a little like, oh, my God. Now the memories are about giving birth. Like, it's like, it's a. Like, I. I considered that a very happy experience. So it's all very. And like, my. And when I was in labor and watching it, I was like, super happy. So it was like, it was still fit into my category of like, I like this.
Paul Scheer
Okay.
Lauren Lapkus
But yeah, 13 going on 30. I love movies. I love body switching and I love body aging or de. Aging. I love that when an actor has to play a younger age. I just love that. I think it's really funny and like, I just enjoy it. And Big is like, Big is such a classic. But for movies that I got away from, your question that I won't watch again, well, these are good.
Paul Scheer
You have it? Yeah, yeah. If you have any. Unless there's one that you're afraid of
Lauren Lapkus
that you know, there's a. I mean, there's so much that I loved as a kid that I'm sure, like, doesn't hold up that you just. I mean, you know what? I was afraid to watch for a long time, but then I did watch it again, and it kills. It's Tommy boy. I was always like, that one's so good. I don't even need to see, you know, I don't wanna watch it as an adult. I'm like, no, it's fucking hilarious. So there's some that you're just like, you should watch em again. Cause they're really funny.
Paul Scheer
It's good to go back. I've been having a great time recently watching movies that I loved as a kid with my kids. Like, I'm trying to select and then seeing if they find it funny too. And that is really like showing my kids Happy Gilmore.
Lauren Lapkus
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
I still think is one of my like best like dad film watching moments of the kids. Cause like their minds were blown, like.
Lauren Lapkus
And it was. This is what we had with ET this summer. We watched my daughter's four. Well now she's gonna be five. But we last summer watched ET Like a hundred times. And she loved it. And she loves Hocus Pocus, which is another one of my favorites from growing up. And I've now seen them. See, that's the thing with anything like that. I would watch it maybe once every many years. Now with her, I'm watching these movies like 10 times in a row and then it starts. So because I never did that myself, it kind of becomes like this new joy where I now can quote movies. I've never been like a movie quoter.
Paul Scheer
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lauren Lapkus
And so I'm like, oh, wait, I'm like quoting E.T. i'm like quoting Homie.
Amy Nicholson
Wait, wait, wait. How would you have handled it if you showed her ET for the first time and she didn't like it?
Lauren Lapkus
I mean, I was afraid that she wouldn't like it because it's creepy. And I was afraid because she likes scary stuff. You know, One of her favorite movies when she was first watching movies was Frankenweenie, which is like the Tim Burton animated. Yeah, it's awesome. It's like claymation. It's so good. But she loved that it's all black and white and it's like weird and creepy. And she loved that. So I was like, okay, I think ET Might fall into this category. And she loves him. But one side note is that we got her a bunch of ET Stuff. Cause at that time it was around her birthday and so everyone was giving her ET Presents. And then she got given like the ET Stuff doll. And then she got the one where he's dressed like a lady.
Paul Scheer
Oh.
Lauren Lapkus
And she did not like that. And it has been like. It's been like I just donated it because she was. She's been so creeped out by it.
Paul Scheer
Is, by the way, an Odd choice. And it is creep. Like, when you see E.T. in that wig, in the hat, it's odd. It is very disturbing.
Amy Nicholson
But it is really weird how much that anecdote leads into the question that I already had in mind that I wanted to ask you. I want you to play Fuck, marry, kill for us, and I'm gonna give you Gizmo Falkor, ET
Lauren Lapkus
Okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, my God, I love these guys. These are the guys.
Paul Scheer
And just for people who don't know, I will say Gizmo's from Gremlins. He's the cute furry one. And then Falkor is from the Neverending Story, the big flying dog. Melekta. Yeah. You know, just in case people didn't know. I know that, you know, I mean,
Lauren Lapkus
it's hard because I don't really want to kill any of them. Gizmo walks the line because you might have to kill him, because he could turn bad really easily. But I don't want to kill him because he's so cute. So I think I want to marry him. Wow.
Paul Scheer
He really jumped up so quickly.
Lauren Lapkus
I think I marry him. I think I fuck Falkor because he looks comfortable. And then I kill ET because ultimately, he's giving me the least in a relationship. Like, I'm not getting. I'm not getting romance from this. I'm not getting, like, even conversation. And then on top of it, like, he just kind of mirrors what you do. So, like, then you're kind of like, are we ever really communicating? Are you just, like, mirroring what I'm putting out there?
Amy Nicholson
I was embarrassed by how hard I nodded with, yeah, I think you do fuck Falkor.
Lauren Lapkus
Yeah, right? You don't marry.
Paul Scheer
I mean, choice.
Lauren Lapkus
If you marry him, you can fuck him all the time. So I don't know. That's also. That's where it gets tricky in that
Paul Scheer
game, because marriage is too big to bring around. I mean.
Lauren Lapkus
Yeah, get him fits in my purse. We can go to all the parties. Everyone wants to talk to him.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Oh, he's going to be. Yeah. He's the hit. Always.
Amy Nicholson
Yeah, I think something about killing E.T. now, as you were describing it, I started to picture in my head, for some reason, Anna Nicole Smith and her billionaire.
Lauren Lapkus
And I was like, there could be
Amy Nicholson
an advantage to, like, marrying him if he had any wealth, but I'm not seeing it.
Lauren Lapkus
We don't know. Maybe he does. We haven't explored his planet.
Paul Scheer
His wealth is plants. Oh, boy. Come on.
Lauren Lapkus
Bullshit.
Paul Scheer
Is there a movie that you find yourself recommending the Most. Or, like, as you are, you know, when you want to share something, like, you know, maybe some.
Lauren Lapkus
Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Is there one that you go to, you know, to share with other people?
Lauren Lapkus
Absolutely. The before trilogy.
Paul Scheer
Oh, really?
Lauren Lapkus
Yes. Those are Before Sunrise, Before Sunset. Wait, Before Sunset, Before Sunrise, and After Midnight. Midnight.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Lauren Lapkus
I love those movies so much. I. I saw the first one when I was in college, and it was like, oh, my God, this speaks to me. This is like everything, you know, it's like it was about my age, you know, like, it was just perfect.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Lauren Lapkus
And then, you know, then I saw the next one years later when that came out and loved it. And then I saw After Midnight and hated it. And I was like, oh, my God, this one's so boring. Blah, blah, blah. And now I'm the age that they are in the movie, and I'm like, that's the best one, by the way.
Paul Scheer
Yes, I am. So on your page, I saw that. That. I just watched it recently. We did it here on the podcast. Or maybe I just watched them all
Amy Nicholson
back then I ran off this. We technically only did Before Sunrise, and Paul was so hopped up that he, like, stayed awake all night and watched all three of them in a row.
Paul Scheer
It was amazing because it was like,
Lauren Lapkus
oh, I just had. You never seen it?
Paul Scheer
I had. But here's the thing. And I don't know if this is a Covid thing. I watched Before Midnight, but. But I never saw the final scene. I saw the scene where they're fighting in the room. And here's what could have happened. Very truly based on me, I could have fallen asleep, and I thought, oh, what a bummer. Way to end the movie. And then I really think. I really do think it's beautiful. And I actually see it moving in a very different light. And I love it now. Really, really love it.
Lauren Lapkus
It is so interesting how they change when you rewatch them, too, and you have different life experiences that you're putting onto it. And I recently was working with someone who was. I don't know, she's probably, like, 25 or something. And so I was like, she'd never seen them. And I was like, you have. I was like, you have to watch these movies. So I was really, like, going off about it, but I was like, please tell me you'll watch it. Because I just, like, needed to know. Like, I just feel like when you're that age, watching something like that, it can really move you. And then, like, each. And then each one, like, the way that they grow. And I also just think, like, Richard Linklater is so cool for, like, the way he's so patient to make movies over time. Like Boyhood, obviously. What that. I mean, how many years that take 12 years or something?
Paul Scheer
Like, you don't even know what he's working on. He could be working on something right now.
Lauren Lapkus
He literally is doing something with Ethan Hawke or. No, the movie that they just did. He said that he wanted to wait until he was old enough to portray this character who is going through this. And I was like, you just waited till he got older. That's like, kind of awesome. I don't know. Like, I just like that.
Paul Scheer
I love it because I also feel like he put out two movies this year that are kind of an awards conversation. It's like, that's amazing, the fact that he is. It feels like he makes movies that are so free and like, yeah, I'll just make this. There's no pressure to it. And there's something really beautiful about that. And the conversations are so interesting. And the way he approached it by having them improvise, but then taking it and then rewriting it. And I feel like it also is a reflection of who they are as
Lauren Lapkus
people at those times. Yeah, totally.
Amy Nicholson
Very much. But I mean, I love that he uses time as a special effect, you know?
Lauren Lapkus
Yes. Like, Josh is like letting it like, Boyhood is amazing. I've also only seen it once, but I loved it. I was thinking I should rewatch it, but he just like, the fact that that kid is growing up on screen and you're not. Like, of course we can all suspend our disbelief if it's another actor who's portraying this person at different ages. When have we ever had the opportunity to just watch an actor grow up? Like, that's so fucking cool.
Amy Nicholson
Like, I don't know.
Lauren Lapkus
I just think, yeah, so cool.
Amy Nicholson
And I couldn't have guessed, like, what he would look like as a kid.
Lauren Lapkus
You know, he ended up being so
Amy Nicholson
much taller than I thought he would be.
Lauren Lapkus
Yeah. Yeah. Good for you.
Paul Scheer
I also, like, there's something that I feel like is very universal, especially about that trilogy. And I'm wondering, did you know that the 25 year old that you told to watch it, did they like it or did have you not known? Because I'm.
Lauren Lapkus
I don't know.
Paul Scheer
See, because I'm very curious.
Lauren Lapkus
I don't have her number.
Paul Scheer
Yeah, I'm so. I just want to know if it holds that same weight. I think it should because it's pretty timeless.
Lauren Lapkus
Ultimately, I think it is too, because it's just Two people walking around and talking. Like, they're not. It's not even like, I don't know. I think technology can be so frustrating in storytelling.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Lauren Lapkus
And, like, it's kind of nice that they're in Europe. So, like, you kind of take away the, like, communicating with anyone, you know, like, you take away a lot of, like, things that are. That get in the way of, like, just two people connecting. And like, obviously the phone element that we have now where it's like you're getting texts during this conversation that you're looking at, like. And it's like, oh, I have a side problem. I'm dealing. You know, they would totally put that in now where it's like, well, yeah, yeah.
Amy Nicholson
That scene we were talking about it where he's like, let me take a picture of you. And he doesn't bring out a phone or even a camera. He just stares at her with his eyeballs.
Lauren Lapkus
I know. Now I'm horny.
Amy Nicholson
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Lauren Lapkus
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Lauren Lapkus
Unschooled.
Paul Scheer
I would really love to see someone break down every movie that could be easily solved by a phone. Because I think that I feel like I'm gonna say boldly 90% of films before cell phones could all be solved with one phone.
Lauren Lapkus
Oh, it's always that. Yeah, yeah, we've taken away from the one. She could find him easily even if they didn't give each other their name, you know what I mean? Like whatever. She'd be able to figure out who he was like yeah, yeah.
Paul Scheer
And it kind of sucks. It's like it almost like we lose like great premises because it's like well yeah, just. Yeah, just Google or just pay for like an identity search.
Lauren Lapkus
It's annoying. Well, and I love that too. Was like the second movie or is it yeah. Where he has written the book and she kind of comes to like see him at his reading and stuff and it's like, it's just like we kind of are missing like she did see. That's not something that was like public knowledge that he's having this book reading or whatever and then whatever. I don't know what year it was. And if the Internet was I think
Paul Scheer
by that point, I think it was up and running. I mean, to a certain extent.
Lauren Lapkus
Yeah. So. But it's. Yeah, but it's still kind of, like, mysterious. Like, she's still kind of like, oh, here I am. And now we're walking around again, and like, whatever. I got just. There's some romance there that we can't.
Amy Nicholson
Yeah. You wouldn't even necessarily know what he's going to look like.
Lauren Lapkus
Right, Right. You haven't seen him.
Amy Nicholson
Could have changed.
Lauren Lapkus
You haven't been stalking his Instagram for the last 10 years while you watched his life. Exactly.
Amy Nicholson
Like, I'm going to do something really embarrassing, which is, like, paraphrase an Instagram story. That was somebody else screenshotting a tweet. But I saw it today, and it was somebody saying, like, that they saw a dad videotaping or on his cell phone, his kid's first steps, and that he was watching the first steps through the screen and the kid was approaching him, but he wasn't paying attention to her. And the end line was just, we are making a perfect record of a life that nobody actually lived.
Paul Scheer
Oh.
Lauren Lapkus
I was like, now I'm really gonna cry. Not. Okay.
Paul Scheer
I know.
Amy Nicholson
Anyway, that's gonna go in the nose.
Lauren Lapkus
Well, when I film my kids, I try to look at them as I'm filming.
Paul Scheer
Yes. Sometimes I get that video. But yeah, or I try to get. I try to get it when they're doing something with my wife. I can. I try to be more of a voyeur.
Lauren Lapkus
I don't.
Paul Scheer
Because when you're in the moment, you are. I try to be in the moment. You know, it's nice to also film
Lauren Lapkus
your partner so that there's a record of them doing something with their child, too, because it's like, those are special things to have, like, a video.
Paul Scheer
I do believe that there's not many videos or pictures of me. I like, Like, I'm like. I've looked through. I'm like, oh, it's so hard to find me and everybody else.
Lauren Lapkus
My husband is, like, the photographer in the family, too. So I. It's like, all the pictures are, like, amazing of, like, me and my kids, which, I mean, thank God. But also, I'm like, oh, I need to, like, turn this around once in a while and hope it's not blurry, because he uses, like, real cameras.
Paul Scheer
And I love it.
Amy Nicholson
I mean, this makes me wonder, though, what would be the title of the biopic of your life?
Lauren Lapkus
Oh, my God.
Paul Scheer
It's a tricky one. It's a hard one to kind of come up with right away.
Lauren Lapkus
Oh, my God.
Amy Nicholson
I mean, the aviator's taken. It's a little bit. I know.
Lauren Lapkus
That was hooked. Anyway, aviator's good for most people. Um. Oh, God, this is hard.
Paul Scheer
You know, this is.
Lauren Lapkus
Well, do you have one of yours? I kind of want to hear if
Paul Scheer
you do have one, because I don't know how I would answer it. I always look at this question on our sheet, and I go, if I can't answer it, I'm. I'm. But, like, there might be something. Oh, gosh. Now I'm like, I'm trying to think about.
Amy Nicholson
I don't know. Last night I was taking my boyfriend to a mystery play. Like, I didn't tell him what we were going to go see until we got there.
Lauren Lapkus
Fun.
Amy Nicholson
And he was like, is it called the Agony of Adam, Egypt, Mortimer, and how he's ruining his own life day by day, and time is ticking past, And I was like, yes.
Lauren Lapkus
Wow.
Amy Nicholson
Except that was all sold out, so we're seeing something else.
Paul Scheer
That's a fun. Oh, that's a fun.
Lauren Lapkus
Yeah, I mean, I think I guess I'll call it. I'll just. I'll just give it a name for fun. Trying not to think.
Paul Scheer
Ooh. Ooh, I like that. That's a tough.
Lauren Lapkus
I'm gonna stick with that.
Paul Scheer
I like that.
Amy Nicholson
You know, I'm not even gonna ask you to explain it, because I think
Lauren Lapkus
it's in the title.
Paul Scheer
I'm all on board. All right, so let's talk movie theater behavior. Yeah. How do you like to sit in a theater? Are you a person that, like, puts your foot up on the armrest in front of you? Are you, like, you know, what is your posture like, if, you know, without upsetting anyone else? I'm not saying that you're annoying people, but if you have an empty theater, how are you gonna be enjoying?
Lauren Lapkus
So I think my ideal scenario, if it's. So if it's empty, I want to be in the back because I want to keep eyes on the situation. I just like to. I want to feel like I'm aware of what's happening at all times. And I'm also a little paranoid in movie theaters, but I. I. With friends, I like to sit. I like to get that seat where there's that bar in front of you. You're at the front of the.
Paul Scheer
Before the back. That's a good one. Yes.
Lauren Lapkus
Put your feet on the bar. I want to be totally comfortable. I like to bring a sweatshirt and kind of, like, get all cozy. I bring snacks If I. I went to see movies.
Paul Scheer
Well, you bring snacks.
Lauren Lapkus
I bring snacks. I bring candy. I bring sparkling water or bottle of water. I bring. I might bring some, like, chips or something. Whatever. If I. Because I sometimes don't want to get popcorn. If I want to get popcorn, I go the whole way. I'll buy M and Ms. I'll do the whole thing.
Paul Scheer
Right?
Lauren Lapkus
But I went to see a movie last weekend or two weekends ago, and it's a new favorite, and I was so happy to be at the movie theater, I went to see Send Help. Have you seen this?
Paul Scheer
Ooh, no, I haven't seen that. I saw that. It's Amy.
Lauren Lapkus
I can't wait. Oh, my God.
Amy Nicholson
Sometimes when I missed it and I'm
Lauren Lapkus
just so good, right, Paul?
Paul Scheer
It's so good.
Lauren Lapkus
I don't know anything.
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Lauren Lapkus
Don't know anything. I mean, I had seen a little. I had seen enough of the trailer to know that it was the. But I didn't even. I couldn't have even gone, well, that's what I.
Paul Scheer
Like, I didn't really know. And I knew, like, all I knew was a little bloody and Sam Raimi. I was like, oh, that'll be interesting. But I got there. I was completely. I kept on, like, I kept on thinking to myself, I don't know where this movie is going.
Lauren Lapkus
I never knew. Every time I thought I was making a prediction or guess about it, like, I was wrong or it was just something, or I was just totally surprised by the next thing that happened that I was like, I can't even think about that thing I was thinking about. Like, it was just. I don't even know Sam Raimi. I'm not familiar. So my husband is familiar and was, like, excited for that reason. And he was like, oh, he did Evil Dead. I was like, this feels irrelevant because Rachel McAdams and by the way, she's, like, one of my favorites. She's in so many movies. I mean, About Time is another favorite. That's another time travel movie. Time travel, body switch, whatever. Whatever type. That's, like, one of the best movies I've ever seen. But she's amazing in this movie. She's mind blowing. I, like, I don't want to give anything away to anyone who hasn't seen it. I just feel like everyone has to see it. But I just have to say, like, she. She deserves, like, everything.
Paul Scheer
Like, she's just, like, unbelievable.
Lauren Lapkus
Incredible.
Paul Scheer
I fully agree. It is a. Like, a. Just a brilliant performance. It's such a good, good movie.
Lauren Lapkus
It was so much Fun. And we went out. It was like a birthday date for my husband's birthday, and we went out with another couple. And we never do that. We never, like, go see a movie because you get to a babysitter and do the whole thing. I'm like, I'm gonna see a movie. I wanna, like, talk or something. But, like, no, it was the best. And just, like, eating all the food and, oh, my God, I had the best time. And it was a packed theater and everyone was, like, screaming and laughing and, like, that's my favorite. I would so much rather be in a room full of people watching a comedy. Like, Naked Gun, like, blew my mind. And I was like. I truly was. Like, this is the best feeling in the world to all be laughing at a movie together again. And, like, I don't know. I mean, of course, the pandemic took away so much of that. But also, just, like, the way that we all stream everything and everything is put on streamers immediately. It's like, I just really enjoy sitting down and laughing with people.
Paul Scheer
Well, I mean, like, you know, like, we do comedy. And now there is such a movement to, I think, release comedies direct to streaming. Right? Like, that's where they live. And, like, when the wrong Missy came out, were you able to see that with a crowd at a time?
Lauren Lapkus
It was literally like a month into the pandemic.
Paul Scheer
Okay, that's. Okay.
Lauren Lapkus
That's crazy. I never got to have, like, a premiere with that, which I would have really enjoyed because it's a silly laugh out loud movie. And it's just like. Yeah, I. And so I do. I feel sad about that. But no, I mean, that's the thing. These things just. You never get a chance to, like, be together and laugh.
Paul Scheer
And I know. It's like, it's. It. I feel like it's such a cry. Like, I feel like a theater should just almost have, like, a courtesy slot for, like, any comedy that comes out. Like, just go see it. I just saw Nirvana, the band, the movie.
Lauren Lapkus
I have to see this.
Paul Scheer
So again, I will not say a thing about it that should not be
Amy Nicholson
spoiled in the slightest.
Lauren Lapkus
I don't know anything at all. And everyone's just like, you got to see it. So I have to go see it.
Paul Scheer
And don't. And be vigilant in finding out nothing.
Lauren Lapkus
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Paul Scheer
And I will say, based on conversations that we've had in this moment, in this episode, you will love it.
Lauren Lapkus
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Paul Scheer
But, yeah, it is such.
Lauren Lapkus
Oh, my God.
Amy Nicholson
So specifically. Sorry. I just realized all the levels of watch. I love it.
Lauren Lapkus
Oh, I can't wait. Oh, no. I have to go. Oh, my God.
Paul Scheer
And. And I just feel like it's such an important thing because I do believe that, like, a communal experience, a horror movie, a comedy movie. It. I think it. I've read this quote. I may have said this before. So we can edit it out or keep it in. It was. Sorry. Ryan Coogler had this quote.
Lauren Lapkus
Be or not to be.
Paul Scheer
Ryan Coogler had this quote that I thought was so interesting. He said that he hates watching movies at home because when it gets too stressful, he can check out.
Lauren Lapkus
Yes.
Paul Scheer
And that's the thing. It's tension across the board. Even if it's like, Marty Supreme. It's. Whatever. It's like you're wrecking the flow. Yes.
Lauren Lapkus
It's true.
Amy Nicholson
People always talk about how movie theaters are disruptive. People might be talking. People might be on their phone. I'm like, you know where people are on their phone on your couch, and it's you.
Lauren Lapkus
And it's so annoying, too. Like, to each other. Like, Mike and I will totally be like, can you just put your phone down? Like, I just want you to watch this with me. You know what I mean?
Paul Scheer
Yes.
Lauren Lapkus
We do it. We both do it all the time. Because it's also very easy to just be like, oh, I got a text. Oh, yeah. And then suddenly you're looking at something on Instagram and you forgot what's even happening, and you're.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. You've gone three steps down. Like, it's like you start researching the movie.
Lauren Lapkus
Of course, we always look people up, like, yeah, stuff like that. And you're like, I just want to be taken away by this. And with send help. I was not familiar with the other lead actor.
Paul Scheer
No.
Lauren Lapkus
And then I was so happy that I did. He was wonderful. And I was like, I'm happy. I can't Google, because I don't. Maybe I'll go, oh, yeah, I did see him in that thing.
Amy Nicholson
Oh.
Lauren Lapkus
And like, no, no, no, no. I want to just, like, watch this performance and be taken away by far.
Paul Scheer
Right home. Yeah. It's so good. All right, so we have. This is another kind of a tricky question. I know that you have. You've been on panels, right? You have been in front of people after a screening of it. Like, what do you. If a. Do you have a worst question you were ever asked or what's like.
Lauren Lapkus
Like.
Paul Scheer
Because it's like. I'm like. It's such an interesting thing when people get up there to ask a question. Do you remember? It doesn't have to be awful, but it's just like an embarrassing or weird, you know, I always think, like, the actor studio, like, I'm on the acting track, you know, or whatever it is. You know, but, like, people, you know, who get up there and try to, like, does anyone ever. Anyone ever tried to pitch you anything? Has anyone tried to give you anything, you know.
Lauren Lapkus
You know what stands out to me? This is just the only thing I can think of, which is the first panel I was ever on was for a sitcom that I did the fir. It was my first job. It was like, I. It got picked up. It was like a very. For me, like, very lucky, exciting thing.
Paul Scheer
Yeah.
Lauren Lapkus
And I had never been on TV before. I had done, like, a couple commercials, whatever. So. Excuse me. It was at the TCAs, like, the upfront. Yes.
Paul Scheer
The worst.
Lauren Lapkus
And like, I don't know anything. Okay. So you're putting me out there and I don't know anything. And I don't even know what's about to happen. I also feel like I'm a side character. Like, I feel like kind of like I'm just excited to be here. Yay. And a reporter asked me a question that, like, insulted my performance. It was. He basically was like, so we did a pilot, and then we ended up reshooting it and doing the whole season, you know, together. Yeah. And so he had watched the pilot. And. And by the way, I just want to preface this by saying all of my experience acting was on stage doing improv, whatever.
Paul Scheer
Sure.
Lauren Lapkus
It's coming. Coming to TV with this, like, bigger performance. And it was a multicam show. And he was like, why did you have your eyes open so wide in the pilot?
Paul Scheer
And I was like.
Lauren Lapkus
I was like, oh, I don't know, like. And I was. And it truly had something that I'm like, oh, I did see that later and understand what he meant. And, like, I've never forgotten it. It was like 15 years ago. But, like, I was like, so taken off. I don't even know what to say. I don't even know what I did say. But I was like. I think someone else kind of stepped in and was like, she's great, like. Or whatever, you know, like. Like, let me off the hook. But, like, it was so uncomfortable. And I've since been, like, kind of put on the spot by people like that a few times where they're kind of trying to, like, I don't know, make you uncomfortable or, like, get something out of you or.
Paul Scheer
Like, dig at you and just, like, kind of. It's a real tough spot to be in, especially in a room where there's. It really can be anything. And I'll just tell you, like, that I was on a panel with Regina hall, who is. I love Regina. She's one of the funniest people. And this same thing. Tca, they go, so you're doing Watchmen. You've done Beale Street. Like, what brings you this comedy? And then we realized, oh, she's talking about Regina King.
Lauren Lapkus
And I was like, what?
Paul Scheer
And it's like.
Lauren Lapkus
And then you have to be, like, so uncomfortable.
Paul Scheer
And then we're like, no, no, no. That's Regina King. And she's like, oh, right, right. What brought you to comedy? And then you. What brought you to comedy?
Lauren Lapkus
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Paul Scheer
She's like, oh, it's just.
Lauren Lapkus
Oh, my God.
Paul Scheer
And you. And it's an irrecoverable.
Lauren Lapkus
Yeah, no, you can't, because you're just like, well, now you don't know what you're talking about at all. And you insulted me, and it's racist and weird, and it's like. It's like everything. It's like everything in one. You're like, just stop.
Paul Scheer
Oh, God.
Lauren Lapkus
Oh, my God.
Paul Scheer
It's a dangerous. It's a dangerous place to be. Sometimes when you have, like, questions from the crowd.
Lauren Lapkus
It is. And it's like. It's very, like, unsettling when you also. Like, especially at that point in my life, I had, like, no idea what I was even expected to do in that situation. Like, with any question. Like, I don't know, like, how to answer anything. I've never been.
Paul Scheer
I wouldn't know how to answer that question now.
Lauren Lapkus
It would be like. I mean, now I might be like, that's kind of rude. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. But, like, it's just so weird. I mean, even. Still, no, I wouldn't know how to answer because I think I've. I've even more recently had weird questions where I'm like, I feel like a defensive. And then I'm like, I. I wish I had said that differently or I don't know what I said or, you know, like, people. I don't. And I don't know what the goal is with a weird question to somebody. But.
Paul Scheer
No, it's. It's. I always find it's like people are trying to get, like, something interesting out of you. But it's the same thing when people ask you, like. And for the most part, like, what brought you to this part? Well, I auditioned, and with a million other things, it's like Paul Giamatti or whatever. If it's like Susan Sarandon, it's like, oh, yeah, I like this. But it's like, most of us.
Lauren Lapkus
What made you choose this? Well, I like working, and then this was an opportunity that came in, and I got to do it and get money and support my family. And it was also fun. Like, you know, I don't know, like, what to tell you.
Paul Scheer
Like, like, everyone, like, we're just all just tossing scripts left and right like garbage.
Lauren Lapkus
I would never.
Paul Scheer
Ye. All right, so this might be an
Amy Nicholson
awkward question, but you can tell me anything. I will. Yes. Whatever your answer is, we're cool. This is a safe place. Should actors read reviews?
Lauren Lapkus
Oh, wow, that's a fun question from you. I mean, I think, first of all, I can't help but read everything that is. Like, I read reviews, I read all that shit. I wouldn't say it's helpful to me necessarily, because it usually just kind of supports what I might already think. If it's negative, you know, I'm like. I'm like, oh, I know, I know. And if it. But then I feel worse, and if it's positive, it's like, yay. But then, like, I still believe the negative stuff, so, like, it doesn't really balance out. Like, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I don't think it's. It's probably spiritually not good, but I don't know that I would ever stop doing it. It's very hard not to. Like, I often think about, like, people who are not in the entertainment, who aren't being reviewed publicly. Like, if you were being talked about online, wouldn't you want to know what people were saying? Like, I mean, like, it's. It's kind of, like, a hard thing to stop looking at. Like, I. I've stopped, like, searching myself in any way. I don't ever do that. I did that years ago when it was, like, kind of exciting to, like, be in things. And you're like, oh, there's topics and, like, things about me. And then you start going, like, I simply don't. It's not my business. But I often think, like, if. If you're someone who's like, just kind of, like, doing your life, and then you found out there was a whole Reddit thread about you, you might be curious what they said. So, like, it's a weird. Like, it's that part of your body that's like, I kind of Want to know, but I know you kick yourself later.
Amy Nicholson
It's so scary to me. Like, I can't imagine. Yeah, honestly, like, sometimes I come across Reddit threads about other people I know, and I'm. And it almost is like. It almost is like a vaccine against.
Lauren Lapkus
No, it really is. I've done that too. I've seen. Just not even on purpose. Like, something like, where people are talking about someone who appeared on a podcast that I like or something, whatever, and then I'm like, oh, they're being so nasty. And it's like, know you. Yeah, that's how they are. Like, it's like, anything that's not true about my friend. And, like, it's not true about me when you say the mean thing about me. And like, whatever. Like, right. It's so you. When you see it. It's kind of helpful to just see it and go like, oh, my God, it's just a toxic place. Like, this is not. Even if it's positive, it's like, it's just not good for you.
Amy Nicholson
I read comments on other people's reviews to be like, never read comments on my own reviews.
Lauren Lapkus
Oh, there's comments on your reviews. Right. I wasn't even thinking of that. Like, there's so. There's a whole world where people are just ripping apart your review.
Amy Nicholson
I want them to get rid of the comments on the LA Times in general, because they should. I don't think there should be comments on these comments. Yeah, it's old people comments, and it just makes all of us look embarrassing. It's like 50 angry trolls. And I'm like, why do we even let these people say that every article we write is wrong? It doesn't.
Paul Scheer
If you want to enjoy great reviews from a bitter community deadline. The deadline review. Like, the deadline comments under it. They're always so angry.
Lauren Lapkus
They're like, he's always like, that guy's so washed up. And nothing's ever gonna come from this. It's like, whoa.
Paul Scheer
Whoa.
Amy Nicholson
Rough.
Paul Scheer
I will say, as I made agreement, Chelsea DeVontes and I both. She said it to me and I said, I'm going to do the same thing. I did not read a single review of my book unless it was somehow given to me as a nice review. But I didn't go in Goodreads. I didn't do anything. And I will say it was lovely because it was nice to be like, I know that exists. I know it's there, and I'm going to just push. By the way, sometimes they're sending you reviews too. And you got to look at them. But it was nice to not get involved because I do think, ideally, what we're trying to do, everybody is trying to, like, work without the voice. We already have our own voice in our head.
Lauren Lapkus
Right.
Paul Scheer
We don't need somebody that we don't know or respect whose voice is in our head.
Lauren Lapkus
No, especially with, like, your book, which I loved. I think that, like, it's. That's such a good point. With something like that, that's so personal, you're like, I really don't need to hear what you thought. Like, I don't really need to hear what didn't work for you. It's like your story. You know what I mean?
Paul Scheer
Yes. And it's like. And whatever you're coming to, like, Ian Roberts had this really funny joke. He had this show called Players with Matt Walsh for a while, and I always remember this one scene from it. It is just this moment where a person's ordering some food, and he goes, well, what would you recommend? And Ian's like, well, what does that make a difference? He's like, I could like something that you hate. What I recommend means nothing to you?
Lauren Lapkus
No, it's so true. I was actually just watching this new show last night, this new game show called, like, the Average American Something by.
Paul Scheer
Yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, yes. I saw the ad for that.
Lauren Lapkus
The questions, it's. It's arbitrary. Like, you're voting on something that simply doesn't matter. So it'll say, like, we've surveyed a hundred average Americans. Which. Which let me think of one that was, like, driving me crazy last night. It was like, well, there was one that was like, which potato form can they not live without? Or something. And that one, you're kind of like, okay, that's. Maybe fries are more popular than hash browns. Like, sure. But then it would be like. It would be like, more. Fuck. I wish I could remember the exact things. I was. I was stoned, so it's hard for me, but I.
Paul Scheer
Like, but, yeah. But it means nothing, right?
Lauren Lapkus
It's like, so. Because how am I wrong? Because you guessed that. Like, it doesn't matter. That's. There's no right answer. Like, so a hundred people said, like, five people said fries, and six people said chips. And, like, I'm wrong now because I said fries or whatever. You know, you're like, that's not right or wrong. Like, it's just random. So, like, what does it matter what you think?
Paul Scheer
Well, that's.
Lauren Lapkus
I don't even know.
Amy Nicholson
Right? It's like, what if it was like a stealth thing being like, we should just get rid of all opinions about Americans? Like, I'm done with polls. I'm done with average voters. To be like, you don't need to hear what anybody made.
Lauren Lapkus
If it had layers going on there,
Paul Scheer
I mean, to me, I would imagine sushi would be eradicated if the general population was like, would you eat raw fish? People like, nope. And it would be gone.
Lauren Lapkus
That's what I do.
Paul Scheer
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Lauren Lapkus
Just, you know, can I pick a man and a woman?
Paul Scheer
Yeah, let's do that.
Lauren Lapkus
I think that that's fair because I've got my immediate answer. Okay, well, God, I could go. Oh, no, that opens it up so much more. Well, I'm gonna. You know what my first answer is? Donald Gleason. That's my answer.
Paul Scheer
Wow.
Lauren Lapkus
That's my hero from aftertime.
Amy Nicholson
I love this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lauren Lapkus
I love him. I love everything he does. I enjoy watching him. He was also in Star Wars. Yes, that was unexpected, but a pleasant surprise for me as someone who didn't want to be watching it. And I love him. I also want to say Rachel McAdams and of course, yes, they do both star in About Time, but she's amazing in everything. So I think the two of them together are like a perfect. Oh, it's everything I want.
Amy Nicholson
I love this for gender representation. We don't have enough redheaded male actors anyways, like, period. So we can just have all redheaded actors.
Lauren Lapkus
He's very charming. He's a delight. He played a creep on a TV show with Steve Carelli. I also liked that. I like all the range.
Paul Scheer
I am so I love that you had it right there. I feel like we can't get any better than that. Lauren, thank you so much.
Amy Nicholson
Well, we do close with something that we call the cinema repentance booth. And this is where you have a chance to make amends to anything in the world of cinema that you need to formally apologize to. It could be a film, a director, a theater, anything.
Paul Scheer
Like some people have said I want to apologize to. You know, like, it could be an actor or a movie that I went out and, like, I talked so much on X and I didn't see it and now I saw it and I actually realized it was good or I changed my opinion, you know, like, whatever it is. Yeah.
Lauren Lapkus
Newcomers, in some ways is my repentance for, like, everything, because I'm like, I. And I still. We still on some stuff, but, like, I did find so much to love and appreciate that I didn't expect in everything that we watched. And I wanna issue my formal apology to Lord of the Rings, because I can't say I'm sitting down to, like, put it on, but my husband does love it and he put it on for our daughter and she's enjoying it. And I'm just like, you know what? There's something really sweet, especially the first one. There's something really sweet about the movie and the sort of the way that everyone gives themselves so fully to this world. And I think that's something I can really appreciate about these movies and, like, think other styles of movie that I don't necessarily gravitate towards. Like, Star wars or, like, Marvel or whatever, where I'm like, oh, it's not like, what I would. Or even Fast and Furious, that kind of stuff. I'm like, I wouldn't go out of my way to see it, but everyone's putting their heart and soul into telling this story. And I find that very endearing. I think I almost want to cry. Like, it's like, if you're gonna, like, really hardcore, perform Fast and Furious, you know what I mean? Like, there's something about it that's like, very. Like, it's, like, it's hopeful. And Lord of the Rings, I think, fits this category where, like, people love it. There's so much. Like, one of my best friends, Mary Holland, loves those movies, and I think there's something very sweet about that. So I'm gonna issue an apology.
Paul Scheer
I love that. She loves that. I gotta ask about that. That's amazing. Wow. Okay. I love that. That's great. And I love that reasoning, too. I think you're so right. Like, there is a joy there that is. Like, they don't. Like, I feel like when you look at Star wars and you talk to those actors, there's a fatigue there where they're like, ah, yeah, well, I'll do it again. Like, it doesn't feel like. But this. It felt like a summer camp that went on for, like, five years, and everyone was like, it's totally.
Lauren Lapkus
We love it. And I just saw Elijah Wood say that he doesn't want anyone else to play Frodo as long as he's alive and able to play him. And I was like, that's very moving. Yeah.
Paul Scheer
Oh, wow.
Amy Nicholson
That's so sweet.
Lauren Lapkus
Well, I know.
Amy Nicholson
I mean, Lauren, this has been magical, and I have loved all of your answers for this week. We appreciate you being on the show so much. I really believe the only formal amends I'm gonna need you to make beyond this as your penance is if you have not yet shown your children a neverending story. I think it is time.
Lauren Lapkus
I haven't. Okay. Yes. And I haven't seen it since I was a kid, so that.
Paul Scheer
Actually, I know it might be tricky,
Lauren Lapkus
but let's do it.
Amy Nicholson
Let's do it during the horse scene. You do remember the horse scene? Be there.
Lauren Lapkus
I do. I just felt like something that was like, AI and I don't love this, but it was like, AI remaking moments that were hard. And it was like the horse getting pulled out of the water, and it's like, fine. Oh, that's like.
Paul Scheer
So I love it.
Lauren Lapkus
But no, no, I know that's. It's. There's scary stuff in all of these things. We were like, oh, no. Now you have to. Well, ET Dies. You know, she's dying.
Paul Scheer
That destroyed my kids. And then they kind of loved it. And there's this idea, like, I think seeing things like that are really good for them, like, to kind of, like, sympathize, emote, have feelings. It's like, I think that that's good. I think it gives them empathy.
Lauren Lapkus
That's true. I think it is good. And he also. Then they rescue him and it's really exciting. It's like you have to have those sad moments to get the joy, too.
Paul Scheer
So this was great. I love it. This is perfect.
Lauren Lapkus
Thanks, guys. It was blessed.
Paul Scheer
And make sure you check out our substack each and every week to go a little bit deeper on the movies that we talk about here. It's always free, so join in the conversation. Unspooled is produced by Amy Nicholson, Paul Scheer, Molly Reynolds and Harry Nelson. Sound engineered by Cory Barton, music by Devin Bryant. Episode art by Kim Troxall, show art by Lee Jamison and social media production by Zoe Applebaum. This is a Rome production. See you next week. Bye for now.
Lauren Lapkus
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No photos, please. I'm just a regular dad who happens to have a stylist.
Lauren Lapkus
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In this lively episode of Reel Confessions, Paul and Amy welcome actor and comedian Lauren Lapkus to share her "cinematic soul"—the films she adores, those that defined her childhood, the guilty pleasures she can't resist, and the movies she's reluctant to revisit. Together, they explore the evolution of taste, the unique experience of watching films with children, rewatching classics, and the pure joy (and anxiety) of communal cinema. Lauren also unpacks her love for movies about body-switching, time travel, and Richard Linklater, and turns reflective in the Cinema Repentance confessional.
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“There are only a few movies I would watch over and over again… If I saw something and loved it into my adulthood, I just wouldn’t watch it again. I would just be like, that’s my favorite movie. And then I wouldn’t watch it again.”
– Lauren Lapkus (04:59)
“We are making a perfect record of a life that nobody actually lived.”
– Amy Nicholson, paraphrasing a viral story (20:49)
“Should actors read reviews? …It’s probably spiritually not good, but I don’t know that I would ever stop doing it.”
– Lauren Lapkus (34:01)
“I want to issue my formal apology to Lord of the Rings…There’s something really sweet about the movie.”
– Lauren Lapkus (42:41)
The episode is playful, insightful, and heartfelt—a blend of reflective parenthood, cinephile nostalgia, and good-natured self-deprecation. Lauren’s candid admissions and the trio’s camaraderie create a warm, open confessional atmosphere where loving movies and wrestling with their quirks go hand-in-hand.
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