Why Is Roblox Protecting Child Predators? | Unsubscribe Podcast Ep 229

Summary

Unsubscribe Podcast Ep. 229: "Why Is Roblox Protecting Child Predators?"

Date: September 8, 2025
Host: Donut Operator
Guests: Eli Doubletap, Brandon Herrera, The Fat Electrician (Eli Cuevas), JD Delay

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Episode Overview

This intense episode of the Unsubscribe Podcast dives deep into the disturbing realities of private prisons, criminal justice reform, life after incarceration, and, centrally, the shocking prevalence of child predators using the Roblox platform. The crew, joined by recovery coach and ex-felon JD Delay, balances humor with hard truths while discussing institutional failures, law enforcement experiences, and alarming stories of criminal exploitation online and offline.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. From Felony Charges to Recovery (05:13–21:00)

• JD Delay shares his personal journey:
  • Faced a 12-year-old marijuana DUI charge, narrowly avoided jail due to a prosecutor familiar with his content and letters of support from notable personalities (e.g., Chris Hansen, Jelly Roll).
  • Emphasizes the importance of accountability and using second chances responsibly to help others in recovery.
  • Highlights the impact of peer-led counseling in prison vs. traditional approaches, especially for those with trauma/addiction backgrounds.
• Memorable Quote:
  • “Anytime you get a blessing in life, the blessing comes with a responsibility inherently. And every time I've disrespected a blessing … God got hands, bro.” — JD Delay [11:33]

Timestamps:

• [05:13] JD's old charge; accountability: “I’m all about accountability these days…”
• [11:29] On second chances and giving back
• [13:43] The turning point in a cell, facing his own beliefs and future

2. The Reality of Prison Culture and Reform (32:18–55:55)

• Insider view:
  • The need for practical reform—teaching life skills to inmates, not just warehousing them.
  • The psychological effects of incarceration and the Stanford Prison Experiment's lessons.
  • Stories of institutionalization and the difficulty of re-entering society.
  • Reflections on “good” and “bad” correctional officers, the value of respect, and the importance of consistency from authority figures.
• Discussion on private prisons (33:10–38:36):
  • Incentivization for high inmate populations; problems with slave labor and contracts with corporations.
  • Only 18% of federal and 7% of state prisons are private, but concerns remain strong.
• Memorable Quotes:
  • “If you reach one person, dude… win.” — JD Delay [32:48]
  • “If you treat people like an animal… they tend to act like animals, you know. Stanford prison.” — JD Delay [49:39]

Timestamps:

• [32:18] Table manners and prison reform
• [33:10] The problem with private prisons and slave labor
• [49:39] Effects of institutionalization

3. Law Enforcement, Officer Discretion, and Accountability (40:15–48:54)

• Cop stories:
  • Officers discuss “bad apples” in both police and correctional systems, addressing the phenomenon of “hall monitor” behavior and the impact of officer discretion on people’s lives.
  • Frustration at systemic injustices where low-level, nonviolent crimes receive harsher penalties than violent or sexual offenses against children.

Timestamps:

• [40:15] Why “good cops” never make headlines
• [42:02] Officer discretion, weed charges, and inconsistency
• [48:54] Need for life skills education for inmates

4. True Tales of Violence, Trauma, and Evil (71:45–83:15)

• First-responder and prison stories:
  • Officers discuss traumatic incidents involving fatal car crashes by addicts, body cam footage of gruesome scenes, and the toll of handling cases involving child death and sexual assault.
  • The group expresses a shared disgust at child predators and a call for harsher punishments.
• Memorable Quote:
  • “Can we please say bring back public hangings?... That used to be a big thing back in the, like, cowboy days. The dude that had killed someone that week would get hung from the town square.” — Donut Operator [82:20]

Timestamps:

• [71:45] Car accident stories—coping with trauma
• [79:15] Encountering abusers and the emotional fallout
• [82:20] Discussion on extreme punishments for child predators

5. Predators on Roblox & Institutional Inaction (115:44–124:45)

• Main theme:
  • The episode’s most urgent focus: Roblox’s failure to address rampant child predation on its platform, despite possessing the technological ability to do so.
  • Noted predator hunters (Schlep, Reuben Sim) are harassed with bans and lawsuits for exposing the issue, rather than being aided.
  • Roblox has implemented a “no vigilante” clause instead of prioritizing child safety.
  • FBI has labeled Roblox the nation’s #1 child safety issue, yet media coverage remains scant.
  • The platform’s active user base: nearly 40 million under 13.
  • Some “game rooms” in Roblox simulate explicit, groomer-friendly scenarios (e.g., Epstein Island, “Diddy Party Simulator,” public bathroom simulators).
• Memorable Quotes:
  • “They are an $89 billion corporation that is prioritizing their profit margins over the safety of the children they sell their product to.” — JD Delay [118:09]
  • “The sheer fact they put in a vigilante clause is wild.” — Eli Doubletap [120:06]
  • “Last year, the FBI released a study saying that Roblox is the number one child safety issue in the country. But… only predator catchers are doing anything about it.” — JD Delay [123:53]

Timestamps:

• [115:44] Roblox predator rooms, lawsuits, and willful neglect
• [117:16] Roblox currency used to buy child nudes, “sextortion”
• [122:07] Roblox’s staggering youth user base
• [123:53] FBI study: Roblox as top child safety threat

6. Vigilante Justice & Systemic Failure (97:18–103:48)

• Vigilante stories:
  • The “Alaskan Avenger” (Jason Vukovich), who used the sex offender registry to target and attack child predators. He’s now adjusted his message to focus on child safety after legal trouble for inciting violence.
  • Cases of repeat offenders like “Mr. Swirl” demonstrate how international and national legal systems fail to protect children and deal out grossly insufficient punishments.

Timestamps:

• [97:18] The case of Mr. Swirl, shocking leniency in Canada
• [98:35] Jason Vukovich’s "Alaskan Avenger" vigilante acts

7. Why the System Is Broken (105:32–109:42)

• Legal disparities:
  • Penalties for minor firearms infractions in some US states can exceed those for child molestation.
  • Police frustration at watching predators receive “slaps on the wrist” while victims and society bear the burden.
• Memorable Quotes:
  • “That thing that I just did that hurts nobody will get you more jail time in some states than doing that to a child.” — Brandon Herrera [108:13]
  • “How soul crushing must that be when you had to go in and see that actually happen, and then you see the justice system fail and let these predators back out with just a slap on the wrist?” — JD Delay [109:13]

Timestamps:

• [105:32] Comparisons of justice system failures and gun laws
• [108:16] Donut on why he left policing
• [109:13] The psychological toll on police

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On redemption:
  “Anytime you get a blessing in life, the blessing comes with a responsibility inherently.” — JD Delay [11:33]

• On Roblox's negligence:
  “They are an $89 billion corporation that is prioritizing their profit margins over the safety of the children they sell their product to.” — JD Delay [118:09]

• On failed justice:
  “That thing that I just did [gun law technicality] will get you more jail time in some states than doing that to a child.” — Brandon Herrera [108:13]

• Vigilante justice:
  “He used the sex offender registry to locate child offenders. … He would go to their houses and go in and smash them up with a hammer.” — JD Delay, on the Alaskan Avenger [99:15]

• The bottom line:
  “There are people who deserve second chances, and there are people who are just inherently evil. ... Those people need to be taken off the planet.” — JD Delay [89:54]

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Conclusion

Final Thoughts ([126:13–end])

The group wraps up by reaffirming a core message: some people can, and should, be rehabilitated—but predators, especially those who target children, deserve only permanent removal from society. The Roblox issue looms large—a symptom of a broken system where corporate profit is prioritized over child safety. The hosts call for public awareness and real action rather than lawsuits against whistleblowers.

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This episode balances dark humor, blunt candor, and hard-earned wisdom as the guests dissect failures in criminal justice, law enforcement, and corporate responsibility. The stakes, as they remind listeners, couldn’t be higher for our most vulnerable.

Transcript

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[JD Delay]

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[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

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[Donut Operator]

Welcome to the unsubscribed podcast. I'm joined today by Eli Double Tap, once again, JD Delay, Brandon Herrera, myself, donut operator. We really appreciate you guys for being here.

[Brandon Herrera]

This is actually my first time on a podcast with you.

[JD Delay]

It is. Last time you skirted out and I understood.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, I was afraid to be seen on camera.

[JD Delay]

That's what I thought, man.

[Brandon Herrera]

I had to wait until I was running for Congress again.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, that. I'm actually quite surprised that you're taking the risk of sitting next to me while running for an office.

[Eli Double Tap]

I ain't worried about it.

[Brandon Herrera]

Unless the felonies are gonna rub off. I mean, like an osmosis thing.

[JD Delay]

It's a little like dandruff. They just get everywhere.

[Donut Operator]

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[JD Delay]

I, you know, I really appreciate that. That's a friendly term. It's. And I'm barely. I barely qualify as a felon, bro.

[Eli Double Tap]

Only 58.

[JD Delay]

58. Only 58.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. What's a number?

[JD Delay]

I haven't caught a felony in like six years, which is good.

[Donut Operator]

Pretty good.

[Eli Double Tap]

Baby steps.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

You know, I haven't caught a felony in the last six years either.

[JD Delay]

Nice. Twinsies.

[Eli Double Tap]

We have so much in common.

[JD Delay]

The last six years.

[Eli Double Tap]

I don't think any of us caught felons.

[JD Delay]

That's great. You know, once. Once you catch the first one anyway, it's. It's like, okay, so the government just took away my inalienable God given rights to be able to defend myself and my family. And I have to check that box forever. So, you know, it's 1 or 58. It's all the same.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it's still the biggest surprise.

[Brandon Herrera]

Kind of like getting an STD.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't matter how many STDs you have. Once you get one, you know, you're. You're dirty inside, you're infected.

[Eli Double Tap]

Brandon Herrera.

[JD Delay]

Felons are.

[Brandon Herrera]

Felonies are like STDs.

[Eli Double Tap]

The first one, does it really count?

[JD Delay]

Felonies? Pokemon.

[Brandon Herrera]

After your first felony, you became a bug chaser.

[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, those are the worst.

[JD Delay]

Like the ones that live under my skin.

[Brandon Herrera]

How are you doing?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, welcome.

[JD Delay]

What's up, buddy? It's been.

[Eli Double Tap]

Man 6. It's been a while since you were online.

[JD Delay]

Something like that. And I have been like just non stop harassed about when are you going back on unsub? When are you going back on? When they invite me. When I was stoked they invited me once and now you guys have allowed me to come back twice. So for everybody who's asked right now. Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, you were supposed to come back earlier and we talked about it a little bit, but you had to put everything on hold for a little bit because you didn't know if you're going to J again or prison again.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. So there was a, there was a almost 12 year old charge. I had gotten a DUI for marijuana and I didn't handle my probation correctly. Like, I didn't handle it like an adult. I actually got almost immediately violated. But I moved to the state of Florida and it stewed for 10, 12 years, something like that.

[Donut Operator]

This is a DUI from like 12 years?

[JD Delay]

Yeah, bro. Like it was at the end of 2013 when I caught it. So I, it, it was the last thing that I had to do to make things right and to, you know, fulfill my obligations. And so I hired an attorney and was like, how do we do this? Like, there's a way to avoid incarceration here. Right? And he's like, well, with the prosecutor that you're going to have, probably not. She's going to want you to do some time on this because it was a probation revoke and you know, know it, it was anything up to a year. So there was a year cap on it. And it was what I just needed to do to take account for the things that I had done in my past was the last thing that I needed to clean up. And so, you know, I, I'm all about accountability these days. Accountability is like one of the most key things that has enabled me to become a better person to have the life that I have today. So I just dealt with it head on and was ready to go in. You know, the day that we walked into court, on the way in, my attorney said, you're ready to go to jail today? And I said, I'm ready to go, let's do this. You know, my wife was ready for me to go. We walk in there and he goes, hold on, that's a different prosecutor. And he walks up to him and talks to him for a minute and comes back and he goes, you're never going to believe this, but that prosecutor actually knows you from your content. And he said putting you in jail would be a waste of time. And he wants to offer you community service. I think it also probably helped that I had, like, letters of recommendation from Chris Hansen. Amazing dude. Great friend. Rich. Rich Angry cops letter was actually the one that the judge read in the courtroom. Jelly Roll and Bunny wrote me a letter. Sheriffs from multiple different counties across the.

[Donut Operator]

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[JD Delay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, speaking of things that dropped, I actually made you this, Cody, because you have incarcerated a lot of people. And I just wanted you to see what their girlfriends are because I know a lot of them have given you shit. So just so you know, this is what a prison girlfriend is. It's called a fifi. It's actually a glove rolled up into a towel. And you would squirt lotion on the end of that, like inside a little bit. And that is the female companion of the people who gave you shit. Resisted arrest. Whatever the case may be, that's what they have to look forward to. I wanted you to just bask in that for a moment. Don't go in it. Literally. Unsub.

[Eli Double Tap]

Communal fifi.

[Donut Operator]

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[JD Delay]

Oh, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

In the background. That's great.

[Donut Operator]

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[JD Delay]

Oh, he's getting the titties out. Oh, no, here we go.

[Brandon Herrera]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

I just like. It's a blurred out thing right now.

[JD Delay]

Oh, my God.

[Eli Double Tap]

A vote for Brandon is a vote for Fifi.

[Donut Operator]

Thank you so much.

[JD Delay]

Yes, sir.

[Brandon Herrera]

What a lovely man.

[JD Delay]

I started this. I'm sorry, Brandon. I'm sorry.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was just thinking about the poor bastards on the prison fucking laundry duty.

[Eli Double Tap]

Is the tits in the white.

[JD Delay]

Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Brandon Herrera]

There's no way that glove holds up.

[JD Delay]

I don't know. It depends on how gentle you are with it.

[Eli Double Tap]

I don't plop them on the ground.

[JD Delay]

Jesus.

[Eli Double Tap]

Bags of sand, that noise.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, the plop, you would say.

[JD Delay]

As one would say, this prosecutor was such a cool guy that he actually went harder for me when talking to the judge to recommend community service as opposed to incarceration, because it was ultimately up to the judge. He went harder for me than paid attorneys that I've paid in the past. It was really incredible. And one thing that he really wanted, he asked me specifically, was to continue to make content based upon what happens when you are accountable and you own your and you handle things head on. And, you know, that's something that's been so quintessential in My life that I was like, yeah, let's run that, bro. Especially if it means that I get to do community. So. Which I. My life is community service. I do community service all the time. So be cool.

[Brandon Herrera]

If they counted your videos as community.

[JD Delay]

Service service, that would be sweet. I'm actually doing my community service through the Salvation Army. I have a. A buddy who works at the Salvation army, and where I'm at, they do a lot of stuff for the homeless population and people that are struggling with substances. So we've been doing that. And he's great. He did like, 10 years in the feds. He's like 6 inches taller than me. So big old, swollen up cracker. And we've been doing community service together.

[Donut Operator]

JD if no one knows you, why are you friends with us? Like, what is your background? Why?

[JD Delay]

Why, like, hi, everybody.

[Donut Operator]

You the coolest guy ever.

[JD Delay]

My name is jd. I was a career criminal and a drug addict for 20 years. I came to a point where I was granted the desperation to turn my life around by the Secret Service and the SWAT team in Florida for organized fraud and counterfeiting. I've done 39 months in state prison, and I ended up getting granted a second chance at life. I 100% did not deserve. I had not earned it. But it was grace that was given to me. And since then, I've become a recovery coach, a peer support recovery specialist, a smart recovery facilitator. I've started community outreach for distributing Narcan and for raising funds for mental health services for people in early recovery. And my life basically these days is based on trying to help other people get second chances, get the same type of grace and life that I have today.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's not every day you see somebody who takes a second chance at life and takes it as seriously as you have.

[JD Delay]

So that's.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's awesome.

[JD Delay]

Well, anytime you get a blessing, and this is from my personal experience, anytime that you get a blessing in life, the blessing comes with a responsibility inherently. And every time I've disrespected a blessing, God, universe, whatever you want to call it, slaps the out of me if I disrespect my blessings. And God got hands, bro. So I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to play around, man, you know? And honestly, it's a huge honor to me to be allowed to go into, like, prisons today and to be able to speak to people that are incarcerated and give them a little bit of hope, because I never had that when I was in prison. We never had Anybody who came in and the classes that we had nothing against the people who ran them. But, you know, it's people that have never struggled a day in their life the way that people in there that are doing time had. So it didn't hit the same when they would talk to us, but if someone like me had walked in and talked to me and told me, I don't have to do this, there's a better way, there's a better future, I think that it might have had a real, actual effect. So you mean that you look a.

[Brandon Herrera]

Little different than the typical prison counselor?

[JD Delay]

Well, you know, I look a little different, but also there's something about people that have had extreme trauma or substance use issues or incarceration where we can hear from somebody who's been in the gutter or the prison yard or, you know, been to the bottom in a way that we can't hear it from somebody who has the classical type of training. Like, somebody can have every degree on their wall to give me necessary information to save my own life. And I won't hear it on the same level as I would from somebody who has, you know, been gone to prison or, you know, been desperate and, you know, strung out on the streets. There's just something about it, and I'm not sure entirely what it is, but somebody who's lived that life and found a way out is what it took for me to be able to find my way out. I needed men to guide me who had been there, and so I get to do the same and turn around and do that for other people today.

[Brandon Herrera]

Is that what you found? Like, what. What really was it once you had that second chance? Like, what really made you turn it around.

[JD Delay]

Man? You know, to be honest with you, I was in a seven man, six man cell, and I was the seventh man. And I was like the token white dude on this unit. Everybody else was either Hispanic or Haitian. I was in a heavy Haitian unit. And one of the dudes in my cell, I'm sleeping in a boat on the floor. One of the dudes in my cell was a shot caller from the Zogang and really cool dude. But me and him had some issues. And we were. We were about to fight, and he looked at me and instead of fighting me, he said, dude, where are you at with God? And I said, there's no God, bro. Get the out of here. Are we fighting or what's going on? He goes, no, man, let me. Let me talk to you. We talked all night long and. And I grew up In a very church driven household. But he presented things in a way that was non intrusive and that made sense to me and just sort of opened up a door for me. And I saw a life for myself and a possibility for myself that I hadn't seen before. And I woke up the next morning and there was just a voice in my head that said, get up, you're going home today. I had like $56,000 bond at this point, and nobody wanted to really like put up money to bond out the dude who just got caught with an ID printer and printing out checks. You know, I'm like the biggest flight risk. I'm already a fugitive in the state of Oregon with 10 years hanging over his head. So I didn't really think much of it. But I got on the phone, I called the bondsman and like within eight hours I was walking out of the jail. Oh, and I, I went home and ended up getting raided by the SWAT team again. More charges. They had been investigating me for like a year. And.

[Brandon Herrera]

Wait, hold on. So you got out of prison just for them as soon as you got home to raid you again? Like, what was the time lapse on that? Was it like right after?

[JD Delay]

Yeah, so it was jail and I was just on bond, so I still had to face those charges. And so because I had stopped committing crimes, the investigation that they had been running on me, like, I think they had been trying to stack as many charges on me as they could is kind of my general understanding on it. And I'm not sure, you being law enforcement, I don't know if that's something they actually do or if it was just the timing, but it seemed like they had been trying to stack charges on me since I was inactive. They started dropping indictments on me. Like I got three indictments within three months for old stuff after I actually stopped committing crimes. And they kept coming and looking for me and not catching me. But then I'd go and turn myself in. I'd hit up my bondsman, have them all ready to pay my bond as soon as I went in. So I had a judge that offered me treatment and I really wanted to go to this treatment center. And this judge changed my life. His name's Judge Foxman. I appreciate you, dude. He saw something in me and gave me an opportunity to, to go to a treatment center. And he told me, if you go and make it through treatment, we'll figure all this other stuff out. But if you don't go to treatment or you buck treatment, I'm gonna Bury you under a prison. Do you understand me? And I was like, yeah, absolutely.

[Eli Double Tap]

Brandon, do you need.

[Brandon Herrera]

Not one more time. You got this, buddy.

[JD Delay]

Can you. Brandon, do you.

[Brandon Herrera]

Almost there, bud.

[JD Delay]

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[Brandon Herrera]

All over my house, in every crevice.

[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

You selling me what's in the box?

[JD Delay]

You have to open it and find out.

[Brandon Herrera]

All right, well, let's see if I can do this. Oh, wow, look at that. Oh, it didn't stop you.

[Donut Operator]

Can I hide my goop in that?

[JD Delay]

You can hide your goop in that.

[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

Why?

[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

Gun not included.

[Brandon Herrera]

Cody, you've got multiple cats in your house, including Squirt, who's quite the scrapper. Would you want Squirt to have access to your firearms?

[Donut Operator]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[JD Delay]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[JD Delay]

Exactly.

[Donut Operator]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[JD Delay]

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[Donut Operator]

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[JD Delay]

StopBox USA. Com use code unsubscribe. So he gave me the opportunity and then Covid hit it. Gave me 20 months to be able to prove myself. By the time I went back in, I was a recovery coach, peer support recovery specialist, smart recovery facilitator. I had Graduated that treatment center. I was a manager at that treatment center. I was a class facilitator at a outpatient facility. And I had just done some stuff to be able to show that I was serious about the changes I made in my life.

[Donut Operator]

That sounds like a awesome judge, man. That's the same. That's the same thing. I would. I would tell someone if I was a judge. It's like, you fucked this up. You're going under, and you proved yourself to be like.

[Brandon Herrera]

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[JD Delay]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[JD Delay]

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[Donut Operator]

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[JD Delay]

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[Donut Operator]

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[JD Delay]

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[JD Delay]

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[Donut Operator]

You turned your life around.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. Yeah. And you know, it's funny because the other day I was in Florida, and you know who Sheriff Grady Judd is.

[Donut Operator]

I know, I know. Judd.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was interviewing Sheriff Grady Judd. Super cool guy. And we were talking about it because the. The media always likes to portray. Yeah, the media always likes to get those clips where he's talking about shooting people dead and like that. Which you pull a gun on the cops, bro, you should get murked. I'm sorry. Like, if you pull a gun on. On a police officer, I don't care if you're. Or what you're going through. I don't care if you're underprivileged. You pull a gun on a cop, the cop has the right to defend himself. But those clips pop for the media, but they never show the other side of Judd where he's talking about how he believes in recovery. He believes in pre trial diversion. He believes in second chances. So I thought it was really cool that I was able to sit down as somebody on a second chance and talk to him about all that stuff.

[Donut Operator]

That's awesome, man.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

So that talk was really good with Judd.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, dude, he's a really good guy. He's a really cool dude.

[Donut Operator]

Dude, he seems cool as. Yeah, I wanted to get him on, so.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yep.

[Brandon Herrera]

I have seen those clips do kind of.

[JD Delay]

Dude, those clips are sick as. Dude.

[Brandon Herrera]

It goes hard. It's not just the normal, like, Press conference, like, we're investigating such and such. There's a disturbance. Two o', clock, sick. I'm gonna find you.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. He's like, you come to my county and you up. You up, buddy.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. And dude, he takes it seriously. He has a responsibility to his constituents to keep a safe community and to do everything they can to make an environment that's conducive to law abiding citizens, not these criminals. And if the people that you elect are failing to do that, it's directly spitting in the faces of the people who put them in their position. And I live in a state where they do that. They bend over backwards and suck criminals off to protect them over protecting law abiding citizens. And as an ex criminal, that's never. You're never gonna like hug a thug your way into a situation where people aren't committing horrible crimes against law abiding citizens.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, exactly.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's not even just his constituents either, because it's, it's not, it's. There's his constituents, yes, that's important. But also his officers, the people that are under him. Being under somebody like him has to be what it's like being under like General Mattis or something like that. They're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, Top's got us covered.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, we're.

[Brandon Herrera]

Hell yeah, well.

[JD Delay]

And I asked him, I asked him specifically, I was like, do you think that you could do the same job that you do here in Polk county in a state like California or New York or Oregon? And he's like, absolutely not. No 0.0% chance. I was like, yeah, that makes sense.

[Donut Operator]

It makes me think of the, the days when like my grandfather, like my grandfather, he was a. He was a law enforcement officer for 35 years and small town Georgia. And it's like if someone comes into your town and they up, you beat the out of them, you take them to the edge of town, you say, don't come back to our town anymore. And that's how Judd, like, that's, that's what that feels like to me, like actual law enforcement.

[JD Delay]

You know, I actually, my grandfather on my mom's side was a big old Irish cop and sort of the same type of dude cut from the same cloth. I was telling Judd that and he's like, you would have made a great Polk county sheriff's deputy if you hadn't got those felonies. I'm like, yeah.

[Donut Operator]

My grandfather also, at the same time, like, you know, he'd drive you to the edge of town and throw you out if you're a piece of. But he would also be kind to you and be like, do you want a meal to eat? Like, like people that actually deserved it. He'd be like, do you want to be able to eat?

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, he wanted to serve and protect.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you're a. He would take it to the edge of town. Yeah, but like, if people were cool like you, like, he. He would. He would take it down to the diner and he would give you a meal to eat.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's funny though. You're like, he would. He said you would have made a great Polk county deputy, right?

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

He's like, yeah, it would have been great if you didn't have a rap sheet longer than a CVS receipt.

[JD Delay]

For real, bro. For real. And I actually got to do a tick tock trend with Sheriff Grady Judd, which was super cool. Yeah. He's got a. A media person who's really up on the trends. And like we did this trending song and like it's me and him shaking hands, smiling at each other really big. And like, it popped off on our. Our Tik toks and a bunch of people called me a bootlicker and they were already trying to cancel me for my Florida round and find out shirt. So they're like, look at this Nazi shaking hands with a Nazi. I'm like, yeah, you'd call him if. If somebody looked at you wrong, though. If you lived in Polk county and somebody looked at your ass wrong, you'd call. You got 911 on speed dial. Ho ass.

[Brandon Herrera]

Look at this clear Nazi shaking hands.

[JD Delay]

With a local cop.

[Eli Double Tap]

Nazi. Both clear Nazis.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, law enforcement.

[JD Delay]

It's great. It's. It still helped me sell more of those shirts. Thank you guys for canceling me and selling shitloads of shirts and getting me thousands more followers a day. Appreciate you.

[Brandon Herrera]

Pinkies up every time you post it to your shitty little subreddits. We make more money, so it's pretty cool.

[JD Delay]

Free advertising with your fucking self righteous indignance advertising.

[Eli Double Tap]

Expensive too. So lots of money.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, I know, bro. I know.

[Eli Double Tap]

Lots of money when you do that.

[JD Delay]

My haters are my biggest fans and they make me money. I'm like, yes, this is fantastic.

[Eli Double Tap]

When you go back to, as you said it was, you wish you had individuals like yourself speaking when you were in prison because then you would actually connect with them. Because then it's. I'm assuming it's kind of like the idea of doing therapy or group therapy with veterans that have been in the Shit, you connect with them versus a random therapist or psychologist that you have no connection to? And it's like that human connection. Oh, you. You've experienced this. Okay, I want to listen to you. How did you get to where you are? Yeah, kind of the same thing. And then on top of that, are you seeing that when you go to these meetings and people get out after being in one of your classes, do you see that?

[JD Delay]

Positive. Look, man, relate it to this. If you go to the gym and you're trying to lose weight, are you going to go to somebody who's morbidly obese and ask him, hey, how do I lose weight? Or are you going to go to somebody who's fit, that used to be, you know, on the. On the plus size, and be like, hey, man, can you just show me what you did? Because I'm trying to do what you did every single time, bro. You know what I'm saying? If you're skinny and you want to get, like, bigorexic, you're gonna go to one of the big dudes and be like, hey, man, how the do I do that?

[Brandon Herrera]

It's like, you. You were where I am.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

And I want to be where you are.

[JD Delay]

Exactly. Exactly. So, you know, that's. That's what it relates to. To me. And it's funny that you would ask about, you know, running into people that I used to teach classes to, because while I was in Florida just recently, man, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna. Not gonna dox you, bro. And. But one of my guys that I. I had in my class for a good long while, he works for ups, bro. And I got a package delivered to the Airbnb, and it was this dude. And as soon as I saw him, he was like, hey, J.D. and I was like, what's up? Gave him a big hug. He's doing incredible. He's like, the life is in his eyes, you know? I remember his first day coming in, and he was head down and downtrodden and everything. And that means the entire world to me. But when it comes to, like, guys who are able to go back into prison, I look at, like, dudes like my buddy Jelly Roll Struggle Jennings, Waylon Jennings grandson.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dropped it.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, the name got dropped.

[JD Delay]

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Well, here's the thing, bro, is that, like, they get access in ways that I can't. Like, I get access. Well, so they don't want to let me back into prison to talk to people in very many places. I've Been able to do it seven or eight times now. But, like, when I try to do it in Oregon, all I get is roadblocks. And it seems like, like, this is where I come from. And I'm out here and I do this work. I literally fly across the country to go to prisons in Nashville and prisons in Arkansas and speak to. To men when they're at a low point and I can offer them something that might help them change the trajectory of their life. And Oregon's like, no, no. And it's just. It's crazy to me. But, you know, Jelly, both times he's come through Oregon, has gone into my home institution, Oregon State Penitentiary, which is incredible. He's. He's literally spoken to people that I know that I still am in contact with. You know, since 2006, I've known him and I'm still in contact with him. He's still in there. He's on double life sentences for killing his uncle because his uncle was doing shady to his little sister. And he got to meet Jelly and I'm like, talking to him about it. And, and it's. It's great, man. Like, the dudes who are out there doing that type of work change lives in ways that I don't think we're ever going to see the end of because it's like a ripple effect. It's like dropping water, you know, a drop into a still water. The. You change somebody's life for the better, they change somebody's life for the better. Those people change somebody's life for the better, and it just, it multiplies. You never fully see the fruits of what some of these guys are out there doing, and they're doing it on a more mass scale than I'm able to because I'm. I'm we little fish. But eventually I'm hoping that I'll be able to get more access to be able to go in, because addressing these people, you know, a lot of these people grew up with really fucked up home lives. And you'll see people that come into prison. And one thing in prison is at least where I was. And I know that cultures are different, different states, but, you know, table manners are pretty important. It's a respect thing. You know, don't talk with your mouth full, eating at the table type of thing. But a lot of these people just, they never had parents teach them a literal thing. So they're learning some of this for the first time in prison. So you have somebody who has that life experience and then somebody who's Been where they are, comes in and talks to them and tells them, you don't have to do this forever. There's a way out. Let me explain some to you. And it just hits different.

[Brandon Herrera]

And that's one thing I will say. So we, I, at least I know I've never met Jelly Roll or anything, but like, I've seen him perform before and that's one thing that, like, he'll stop and like pretty much every show, like offer that message of, of redemption. Yeah, not. And it's one of, you know, a lot of artists will do stuff like that. But for him, it's the first time I've ever listened to something like that. And like, oh, this guy's 100% genuine. Like, it's just. This actually strikes me as something that's.

[JD Delay]

Important to this guy more in person. More so in person, dude. Like, he's, he's really about that. I like my friend Struggle just got put on the board for Send Musicians to Prison, which is literally, marketing wise.

[Eli Double Tap]

Not the best name.

[JD Delay]

Hey, you're going to prison, dog.

[Eli Double Tap]

To help others.

[JD Delay]

It's a little clunky. It's a little clunky.

[Brandon Herrera]

But that sounds funny though, from a marketing arm. That's a very funny group name.

[JD Delay]

It's very straightforward. That's what they do. They send musicians into prison to go and just speak to these men. And a lot of them are dudes who come from rocky backgrounds and like that. So the fact that we have people out there actually actively doing that and you have a lot of musicians that are, you know, volunteering to go and give their time to these people, I don't see when I walk in there, I know that a lot of these people statistically are going to fail. The recidivism rates are crazy, but not a single one of them has to. So when I walk in there, the first thing I do is I thank them for their time. I tell them, I know that it feels like you're drowning in time. All you have is time. But your time is still valuable because what you do right now is going to determine the trajectory of the rest of your life. And I want to thank you for your time because it's valuable. I don't see convicts and felons and losers and degenerates here. I see possible, I see the potential for future leaders, leaders of your community, leaders of your home, leaders that can go out there and make a difference in the world. But you have to choose that and you have to keep choosing it every single day. It's It's a, it's an active lifestyle to choose something different. And you're going to have to change everything that you've ever known. And it's not going to be easy, but it's going to be fucking worth it.

[Eli Double Tap]

Set proper reform and proper reform through prison. Because I think that's where your largest failure is coming from. It's like, hey, we're going to put everyone together and then you're going to have your little race wars inside of prison.

[JD Delay]

Oh, they love that shit in there.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, you're going to fight, you're going to do all of that and then when you get out, hey, you have learned nothing. You haven't been educated. You're still, as you said, don't know how to have table manners. You're thrown right back in the world and now you can't get a job on top of everything else. So failure, failure. Failure versus true reform.

[JD Delay]

And if you reach one person, dude, if I. If I fly from Oregon to fucking Arkansas and one person gets out and changes their life, win, win.

[Donut Operator]

Bro, I have a question I've never been able to ask like a felon, someone who's been prison before, do it. How do you feel about prisons being private businesses?

[JD Delay]

I hate that shit, bro.

[Donut Operator]

Because the majority of prisons are private businesses, Correct?

[JD Delay]

Yeah. Well, so there's, there's a lot of them that are. I don't know if it's the majority. I don't know what the statistic on that is. I know that there's like I think 20% of them in the state of Florida. Prisons. Prisons are private businesses. I haven't looked up the national averages or anything like that, but I don't like it because in the contracts that they have with the government, the government gives them a percent that they're going to keep that prison full.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[JD Delay]

So it's, you know, like hitting a quota of, of people and put a.

[Brandon Herrera]

Monetary incentive on making sure people go to prison.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I think that that's really dangerous.

[Brandon Herrera]

Or stay in prison or go back.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. And here's the thing is that like I 1000% believe that if you are in prison and you know you up, you owe a debt to society, you're getting free room and board and food and, you know, the shittiest health care you could possibly imagine. I do believe that inmates should have responsibilities. They should have to work, they should have to do things to give back to the community to earn their keep. However, there is a very prevalent slave labor industry that is, you Know, being run through prisons in every single state in this country and. Wild. Yeah. So, I mean, like, states like Florida, they don't pay inmates anything, and they have literal contracts with companies where they will be making, you know, clothes or whatever it is. In Oregon, they have a furniture shop at OSP and then they have a sprint or AT&T call center at Snake River. Um, but at least out there, they pay you, like, $3 a day, which, for prison money. $3 a day? Fuck, yeah. But, you know, they're contracting each person out for, you know, at minimum. Minimum wage to. To these companies, which really quick.

[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, Brandon, show you have a degree in hr, right?

[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

It's actually private. Way less than I thought.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, I would figure 40%, but it's a lot less. But as you're saying with that you can turn into a indentured servitude, essentially where you're like, hey, you don't get paid and we're going to keep you as long as possible.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm curious if there's ever been a court case about the constitutionality of that.

[Eli Double Tap]

Tyler what's his name just did a video on it. He got ran out. He wasn't even allowed to stand outside the prison and do a video. Is a private prison and he was just recording a video.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oliveira?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yes.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh, no.

[Eli Double Tap]

And the. The sheriff, the local town cops showed up and like, hey, you gotta leave. And he's like, wait, this public claim. You better leave. I'm going to ask you one more time. You need to leave.

[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

He's like, I'm on public land. What the are you talking about? And as he's talking, the prison is shuttling people in and out, not in the cattle cars. And they're having to sit down and squat and they're not handcuffed or anything. And like, where are they taking those prisoners? And then they're willing them back into like don't just stop recording, stop recording. Cops made them leave and then they escorted them out of town. And this is all. All the local town sheriffs and police officers escorted them out.

[JD Delay]

Wow. Where was this?

[Brandon Herrera]

Tyler Olivera Oliveira Olivier or something like that. But yeah, No, I like his stuff, dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah. Yeah. That video is wild. And it is a massive video. And you see the corruption at that level and that is. They go deep into it and then they. He interviews prisoners at that swan and it was female and male prisoners. The females were like, yeah. We would have to be outside in the cold and doing gardening for just the local sheriff. Like, yeah, yeah.

[JD Delay]

Jesus. Oh, yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Well, that. That's like a lot of the cop hate that. I get where it's like, oh, cops are bad. They might see something like that where it's like maybe the sheriff. There's like a trickle down thing.

[Eli Double Tap]

Those shipbags are bad.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, like those guys, like the prison's making money because it's a Privatized prison. And then the sheriff's probably not helping out, arresting more people to get them into that prison. But like I said, it's like, 18. But I get this all the time where it's like, all cops are bad. It's like, nah, there's. There's some bad out there. But, like, not all cops are bad.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's. You just will not see headlines about the good ones. It's for anything.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

The good ones will never make the headlines. The bad ones, really fast. All the headlines, it's like, see, all cops are pieces of shit. And you're like, whoa. Acorn Cop versus a dude that saved a whole bunch of people.

[Brandon Herrera]

We see more. I'm sorry.

[Eli Double Tap]

I was gonna say it's like, Acorn Cop got way more attention than. What's the. Who's the guy that just saved, like, 200 people from the flood?

[Brandon Herrera]

The Kerbal floods? Yeah, the. The guy was, like, the emergency swimmer or whatever. Like National Guard.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, it was National Guard. That dude was a gangster dog. That was his first mission, too.

[Eli Double Tap]

Barely any coverage compared to Acorn Cop. Acorn copy all over social media. Bad cop, Witch. Terrible cop.

[JD Delay]

What? That's why.

[Donut Operator]

You going to talk about George Floyd real quick.

[JD Delay]

Jesus. That's why every time I get the opportunity and. And they don't get media coverage. But anytime that I hear about a good cop doing something good, I cover it on my channel. Because I'm known as being the ex prison guy. You know what I'm saying? And I want to put more light on that now. I'll also hold bad cops accountable.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[JD Delay]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I know there was the. The case out there in Volusia county where the cop was in his car, in his uniform, going around and extorting prostitutes into doing favors for him. And Sheriff Chitwood, gangster. I love Sheriff Chitwood, bro. Like, and. And I know him personally on a certain level. Not, like, super well, but, like, that dude's a gangster. He. He ended up taking the dudes. He prosecuted the dude to the full extent. He took the dude's badge and had the dude's badge melted down in front of all of his new recruits and said, this is what the. Happens when you disrespect our badges here. You go to prison, and we melt the badge. The badge never gets used again.

[Brandon Herrera]

See, that's dope.

[JD Delay]

The.

[Brandon Herrera]

I don't know. It's marketing 101 when it comes to, like, you're talking about, like, the. The good cops versus the bad Cops like why the good cops never get any, any publicity outside of like maybe a feel good story in your local news is because like Marketing 101 is the things that get shared. The things that people show to other people, the things that people click on which therefore makes those media outlets money is things that make you laugh or things that make you angry. They are monetizing things that piss you off because the things that are feel good stuff, they don't get fucking views, they don't get fucking clicks. The only things that you click on. They're fucking. Tell me I'm wrong. Are the things that make you laugh or the things that piss you off. And that's what they're banking on.

[Donut Operator]

You know what drove me crazy about cops, dude? Officer Discretion. Like I knew cops that would like, like sweep the weed flakes out of a carpet of a car just so they could get a weed charge on them. Where on the other hand I would find some weed and I'd be like all right. Like I would stomp it out on the side of the road and be like just don't do that again.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, I've had both. I've had both of those types of cops man.

[Donut Operator]

You know, and, and it just those. There's shitty cops. That it up for all of like the rest of the cops, Captain Boy scout that just. Yeah, there are. I think it's like 700000 police officers in the United States right now. And there's always those guys that want to scrape the weed flakes out of the carpet and. And then just get a weed charge on it. And that would always drive me crazy as a cop.

[Eli Double Tap]

You're not liked at your.

[Donut Operator]

No, we all hate you fucking too.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

It'S like bad military leadership. You owe shitbags, dude, the shitbags especially if they fell upwards. We hated that leadership and we knew you were a shitbag and we despised you or watched your entire squad and team despise you. And we felt bad for the people that were part of that squad.

[JD Delay]

Cuz you're like dude, they're in the.

[Eli Double Tap]

Day room at 5pm cleaning weapons every day of the week because homeboy hates going home and he wants to make his soldiers exactly.

[Donut Operator]

Miserable discretion.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, yeah man, just cuz your wife's a and you don't want to go home.

[Eli Double Tap]

Like, yeah, I'm going to make everyone's life suck.

[JD Delay]

Let me ask you a question. So from your experience it does. Is that like a rookie trait? Like is that something that. Because it always seemed to me like it, it was more the rookies that were doing that type of. They're trying to make a name for themselves. They want to be Billy Badass. And the dudes who've like, really seen some and been around for a while are like, yeah, that Petty dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

Can I, can you, can I do a guess really fast? Just from a psychological standpoint, I think those individuals will stay rookies but then continue that process no matter what. So they will stay shit birds from rookie tell senior leadership and with police, especially recently, because a lot of good ones will get out because social media and the presence, those shipbags will stay in. They won't get in trouble. They will be covered. They might be hated, but they're like, well, I'm still getting paychecks and they will still make everyone's life miserable.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, so it starts off as a rookie thing where you want to make a name for yourself. And so you're gonna like, find this weed here and there and like him someone up on some fucking stupid weed. Like when I, when I started off as a police officer, I would find some weed and I'm like, ah, you know, I don't care about it. Stomp it out on the ground. Like, don't do that again. Or I would, or I would tell people like, hey, I'm gonna write you a ticket for this weed. If you don't commit a crime for the next six months until your court date, I'm gonna just cancel that entire charge. And so they, they, they would go into court with me six months later, not committed any, any crimes, and I would just. Noel Pross. Hey, Judge Noel Pross. Just cancel that out.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's weird. Instead of trying to ruin their life, you were giving them an incentive to not commit crime.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, and I, like, I did that sometimes, but there were, there were cops, especially the new guys that would come in and be like, be like, oh, we charge, we charge. I want to be a narcotics officer or someone to get this weed charge. And it was gay. But then there were, there were some cops that had been there for like years who were still doing the same. Like, oh, no, no, this is, this is a, this is bad. So we gotta, we gotta arrest them for this, for this little weed thing.

[Eli Double Tap]

See, if I was a cop, I just make every amount of drug they had.

[Donut Operator]

It's the, I'm like, yeah, all of.

[Eli Double Tap]

It has to be done right in front of me.

[JD Delay]

They're like, it's the bag of fentanyl. I usually swallow it before they get up to my car. Just helping Bags of meth down my throat.

[Donut Operator]

Like, bro, it's. It's like. It's like the hall monitors, the boy Scouts. And, like, all the other cops were just like, why do you have to keep doing this? Like, it doesn't matter.

[JD Delay]

It's funny because you find those people, like, in literally every aspect of society. Society. Like, they call them the treatment job.

[Donut Operator]

Any job you go to, you're gonna find those people.

[JD Delay]

When you go to treatment, bro, there's always at least one, if not multiple, treatment Nazis. And they're like, that. That person. It's like, everything's completely, totally by the book. And I'm gonna tell on you for if. If you look at me sideways, I'm gonna you up. I'm gonna tell on you. The. These counselors love me. And then the counselors pull you aside, and they're like, bro, like, I hate that dude. That dude is such a dick. He's not gonna make it. He's way too high strung, like, watching. They always end up up, bro. Like, they lose their. And they up and they relapse, but they think that they're just absolutely God's gift to, like, recovery. And. And you'll find that in any type of situation, dog. The hall monitor, the. The anal retentive cop, the treatment Nazi.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hall monitor cops is a perfect statement that represents everything.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, dude. Going back to Grady's Judd, he's like, you up. You're. You're done.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, like, that's.

[Donut Operator]

That's what I would do with people who I found with weed charges. Like, hey, just don't commit a crime for, like, six months. Easy day.

[JD Delay]

Well, and he. Specifically, when I interviewed him, he was like, you know, I've had a reporter be like, yeah, you hate those people you put in jail. And he's like, I don't hate them. They committed a crime, and they have. They have to be held accountable for that. I have no hate for that. I hope they get out and they do better. That's why I have programs in my county jail to help people do better when they get out. I want to see them become productive members of my community. And to me, what it always comes down to is when you lock someone up, the majority of them are coming back out. Who do you want as a neighbor, bro? Who do you want your kid to pass on the sidewalk on their way to school? Do you want somebody that you locked in a cage and you kicked them for 10 years? Or do you want somebody that, while they were in there, you gave them a job so they Learned a routine, they learn some skills, they now have something they can take out of there. And some of the things that we're lacking in there are just simple that I don't even think the prisons are really thinking about. Like you need a class before people get out to teach them how to fill out job applications, file their taxes, bro. Like these simple things that, that normal people are just like, oh, that's just common sense. You don't understand where these people are coming from, man. Like, if they knew how to fill out a job application and they could sit in front of somebody and interview, they might not have committed those crimes. I'm not saying it's anybody else's fault. It's their fault for not seeking those types of services and getting that education. But a lot of these people weren't afforded the opportunity. And I'm not the big like, oh, we need to feel sympathy for all of these criminals type of dude. Like, no two things can be true.

[Brandon Herrera]

At the same time.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, exactly.

[Brandon Herrera]

It can be true that it is their fault, but also be true that they didn't have the resources and that we can fix that.

[JD Delay]

These people are up. These people need help. If they get out before they get help, they're more than likely going to damage the community again and we're going to have to pay for their existence in prison again. And isn't it better if we just get them the nominal amount of they need to be successful and reintegrate into society?

[Brandon Herrera]

And that's where I think the, the concern with private prisons comes back into play. Because it's like, okay, well now just like anything else in life, you follow the money. Where's the financial incentive for them? Is it to make good neighbors that when they're released, become actual productive members of society? Or is the financial incentive to make sure they end back up there?

[JD Delay]

Yeah, well, the thing is, is that when you treat people like an animal, bro, they, Stanford prison, they tend to act like animals, you know. And you know, being institutionalized is a real life thing. Being institutionalized is like you get caught in this pattern and it's what you know. And to be honest, another thing that I've seen a lot with institutionalization is that in prison, to be respected, to be respected, bro, like you have very, it's bottom of the barrel basement ethics. It's, you know, don't snitch, don't ever back down from a fight. It. I don't know how progressive and woke prisons are now, but it was, it used to be, don't do no, gay. You know what I'm saying? Don't. Don't get a throat full of dick while you're in there. And you're a good dude. And so dudes will be respected in there because they'll fight each other and. And they don't snitch and, you know, they carry themselves that way. But then they get out and they're looked at like complete and total pieces of. And they have to tell everybody that they're a felon if they want a job. And like, there's just so much stacked up against you. Let's at least get these dudes the basic. That they need to be able to like, get employment and pay taxes. Because if they're paying taxes that ostensibly that helps the whole community, right? If they're working, that's way better than them stealing your catalytic converter. I don't know about you guys, but I think Cadillac converters are pretty cool when they're on cars, not when they're in a tweaker's backpack.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's a hard one. It is. Because it's so many layers. That's a. As I said, the Stanford prison experiment was. Hey, look, this is an experiment with people from Stanford, both on different sides. Males, just males, I want to say. And it was the. The 20. How many people.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, you're talking about where they put some people as guards and they put some people as prisoners.

[Eli Double Tap]

And it's a thought experiment. And they still literally. It was 20. 24 male undergraduate students were selected randomly assigned to either prisoner or guards in a mock prison set up in a basement. Stanford University. University findings. The guards quickly adopted just authoritarian behavior, abusive behavior, literally instant. Just signs of psychological distress and learned helplessness. They displayed that instantly with friends, like going into this thought experiment and they immediately like, oh, I'm in control. You. We're going to restrict showers. We're going to make you feel like pieces of shit to make you do what we want you to do. And it got out of control really fast. And that's Stanford graduate, like, you know what I'm saying?

[Donut Operator]

To be fair, they were a bunch of queers, probably.

[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[JD Delay]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[JD Delay]

That is how long that fucking lasted.

[Eli Double Tap]

And these are Stanford undergrads. And all it lasted was six days of like, whoa, this got really out of control.

[Brandon Herrera]

You're like, let's do that with YouTubers and like, I'm just seeing like the next Mr.

[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

I turned 50 of my friends into.

[JD Delay]

Psychopaths for a million dollars.

[Donut Operator]

JD did the guards not do better when they were nicer to them, though?

[JD Delay]

I'm telling you this right now. Like, if you. It depends on whether it is a minimum security or a maximum security. I liked max security because the guards were chill, bro. They were not up your ass. They were not disrespectful. They were not trying to like, Billy Badass you all the time. Because they knew these people have nothing to lose and they will run a piece of steel in me. The. The minimum security, everybody was like, concerned about staying there and like, oh, I don't want to go to osp. It's scary as shit there because people get stabbed and butt fucked. I liked osp. I never got stabbed or butt fucked there. You know what I'm saying? But the cops in the maximum security that are like, they're mainly like more veteran CEOs. They were chilling. They did great. Like, they. Some of them respected. I know a CO who got a whole sleeve done in there by one of the best artists in there. Like, his whole sleeve is just prison work. And you know, he brought in professional street ink, and dude slung him down while he was working his shifts.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's kind of cool.

[JD Delay]

That is hard, bro. That is hard. And everybody respected that co. He was super cool.

[Brandon Herrera]

So where'd you get that? In prison. Oh, you went to prison? Not really.

[JD Delay]

I worked there. Yeah, I worked there. There were. There were captains that came up from being, you know, just a regular officer that could come and sit at every gang table because they were respectful. And, like, they would come during meals every once in a while, and they'd come sit at my Irish pride table and be like, what's up, you guys? Everything going good? Like, what's going on? And, you know, it's the same dude that you could go to if you needed a cell move. Be like, hey, man, I'm thinking about killing my celli. I'm having intrusive thoughts about stabbing him in his face 38 times. And I'd like to move. Move this other dude into my cell. And he'd be like, yep, it's done. You're good. You know, like.

[Donut Operator]

And it's like, the Green Mile, that little sucker. Yeah, they brought in. They. They brought the. The governor's son.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

And he was such a. But then, like. Like Tom Hanks. All the time, he's like, no, we got to treat them with respect.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, they're nice.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah. They're just, here, be nice. And then they brought that kid in. He's just such a. And everyone ate him. That's why the entire prison blog, like, blew up and started being angry at everyone.

[JD Delay]

Well, there was a female. God, was she a sergeant? I think she was a sergeant. A female sergeant at Snake river that got put on the gang task force because there were so many gang members out at Snake River. They had their own gang task force out there, and she was in charge of the gang task force, and she loved to. To do cell searches, and she'd go into your cell and she'd tear all your apart, you know, your private.

[Donut Operator]

Unnecessary, unnecessary.

[JD Delay]

You would go back into your cell, and you would find pictures of your kids in your toilet.

[Brandon Herrera]

Oh.

[JD Delay]

And, like, you've got dudes in there doing life who are never going to see their kids again. You know, they haven't seen their kids. And that picture of their kid is. That is their child to them. That's all they have of their child. And this just goes in and throws them in the toilet. And she's doing this to gang members. So, like, three of the gangs got together, and they're like, we need to do something about this broad. And like in prison we don't like woman beaters. So understand that like she pushed the wrong buttons so many times that they got together and they're like, well none of us want to like catch extra time for this. So they extorted a child to go beat the brakes off this broad. And she was like 5 foot 2 and like got her ass beat in the hallway. Like all the getting beat up by a cold work, they found the toughest on that yard. And they were like, hey, check it out. This is all three of us, all three of our gangs telling you we're gonna stab you into non existence every time you get out of the hole and we're gonna let you live and just keep stabbing you for the rest of your life unless you go beat this up. And that's exactly what happened. She got up, bro. I don't think she did any cell searches after that though.

[Eli Double Tap]

No.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, that's a, that was, that was the cop I was talking about. That scrapes. Weed flakes. I was out of the carpet just to get a weed charge.

[Eli Double Tap]

Did she quit after that?

[JD Delay]

I never saw her again. I assumed that. I. I don't know, bro. They might have, they might have shipped her out to another institution because they'll do that when there's like crazy assaults like that. And. But we had one dude named Officer Bennett, right? And when you're walking down. So Snake river is nice and it's newish looking and it looks like a college campus, lots of long corridors and you're walking from your unit to Chow and there will be just a bunch of cosos lining the walls and they have these little closets and they'll be like, inmate, get over here, get in here. And they'll like just pull you over on your way to Chow and they'll strip search you, make you bend over, squat and cough and everything. Just on your way to breakfast at 5:30 in the morning and then on your way back they'll pull you over again and do that. And one dude really loved doing it. It was like his whole get down he was enthusiastic about this. His name was Officer Bennett. We called him Officer Benefits because we said his benefits package was looking up dudes. Like there's some strange dudes that end up being cos, man. Like I, I would love to see their hard drive and a psychological workup on some of these dudes.

[Brandon Herrera]

So I, I just actually got reminded. Like it's, I. It hit me like a ton of bricks. I, I had a Prison story, obviously, I've never been to prison. I saw Eli got very concerned on that. It's like, two what now?

[JD Delay]

This is. This is going to come out during the election anyway, so we're just going to clear the air.

[Brandon Herrera]

So my. My grandparents actually met in prison because they both work for the prison system.

[JD Delay]

Okay.

[Brandon Herrera]

So, yeah, one was a prison guard. My grandmother was a prison psychologist. And that was actually one story that she had where it was like, this is the one thing that she remembers and like, still has nightmares about, not because something went wrong, but because of what could have. Where there was this dude that just went. It was one of her patients, I guess one of the people that she had been talking to for quite some time, you know, trying to work through some stuff. Just went on a stabbing spree one day. Like, I don't know, it was like a shard of glass or whatever it was. Just started these people up and they cornered him in a cell and he still had whatever object, a shank, a shiv, piece of glass, whatever it ended up being. And they kind of were at that catch 22 where, like, nobody wants to go in there and take it, but obviously, like, this guy just shanked four people, you know, that sort of thing. And she goes up, she's like five foot nothing, just absolutely not imposing woman of any kind. And she goes in and he's still like, you know, I'm gonna. You up. Don't come near me.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, no, not today.

[Brandon Herrera]

She reaches through the bars and just holds her hand out and says, give it to me. And he does and gives it to her, and she pulled it back in.

[JD Delay]

Treated him like a human.

[Brandon Herrera]

And then after that, she just like. She's like, why the did I do that? And had like nightmares about it afterward of just getting her wrists ripped the.

[JD Delay]

And everything, but like with a bunch of other people's blood on it.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, yeah.

[JD Delay]

Gnarly, dude. That's one of the worst things about prison is that. So in prison, if there's a fight or a stabbing, you're not. You don't look. Everybody like turning and looking and going, oh, there's a fight over there that lets the cops know that people are fighting. And you. It's basically dry snitching, you know. So I'm in. I'm in the canteen line at osp and it's. Yes.

[Eli Double Tap]

A term we learned today.

[JD Delay]

There's like a lot.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's very funny.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, there's a huge line to canteen and it'll. There's like four rows going so it's, you know, I'm standing there and my back is to the, the canteen wall, but there's tons of people and I'm just. It's. You're in a big crowd, and all of a sudden I feel wet on my neck, which is never a good feeling when you're just randomly like, there's some wet. So I go like this, and it's blood. And I look behind me and this dude's just getting stuck over and over and over again. And I'm like, turn my back to the dude with the knife. Doesn't feel good. I have, I already have ptsd. This doesn't feel good. And I'm like, God, it's. There's more wet. There's more wet. You know what I'm saying? And then you have to, like, step around the dude to get past him when you, when the line starts moving. And it took him a while to find the dude, he was up and moaning and like that. But that's the type of stuff that happens in prison. And it's one of the hardest parts is, you know, shit'll crack off next to you. I, I am hyper vigilant because I went in with, you know, ptsd. So not looking when there's combative going on is counterintuitive to, like, my, my mental weirdness to everybody, I'm sure, like.

[Brandon Herrera]

To some degree, but especially in your case.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, especially this.

[JD Delay]

The thing is, you know, potatoes, please. You know what's cool is that I.

[Eli Double Tap]

Walk down the aisle, do not look.

[Brandon Herrera]

So Jeopardy at 4.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. I have tons of people in my community that watch me that are correctional officers, and they never get mad when you talk about correctional officers that suck, they're always like, most of them suck. That's why I quit that job. Like, they're like, I trusted the inmates more than I trusted my co workers. You know what I'm saying? And so it's like, I can talk about the bad co workers, about the bad COs, without the COs in my community going, hey, you're talking bad about us, because they understand. I'm not, I'm not talking bad about you. There were some rad cos, and I'm friends with cosos to this day. I'm, I was friends in Volusia county with a dude because I, I, I would bar back and do security at the, the biker events, like bike week in Daytona beach at the biggest bars. And so one of the dudes that I just knew, before I'd even been to jail, there was a CEO. And then he sees me come in and he's like, delay. What the. And I'm like, it's all bad. And he's like, all right, cool. What do you need? You want some? Have you eaten? You don't look like you've eaten in like a week. Yeah, can I get some extra sandwiches? He's like, yeah, you're good, bro. And you know, he'd like, look out for me. And, And I had, There were, there were ex military correctional officers that were cool. They'd like, you're not allowed to work out in there. But they, they're. They're meatheads, bro. They're like, me, they're meatheads. And they'd see me in there working out and they'd be like, hey, I'm on shift till 4, but after that, probably don't do it because the next guy's gonna be a dick. And like, I'd have him like, dude, like every once in a while slide me a protein shake and shit like that out of his lunch. Like, there's good ass people that work in that profession. Just like there's good ass cops and there's ones that, you know, probably should eat a dick and fall off a ledge. They can eat dirty dog and die twice. And I wouldn't cry.

[Brandon Herrera]

I had a, There was a summer camp that I went to when I was in like high school, you know, whatever. Like one of those where one of the coolest counselors we had, his name was Uncle John, but he was a South Carolina correctional officer. So he was a. He worked in the prison system there. And he was always just like, very stern but very fair. And he'd joke around. He treat everybody like fucking adults, which is the cool part. And basically at one point he had mentioned that, like, oh, yeah, my treat, My trick is like to be in a cool counselor is I treat you all like fucking inmates.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

He's like, that's. I treat you exactly the way I treat my inmates. It's like stern, fair, joke around. But like, these are the fucking rules and this is this. And I have to make sure that all, you know, 40, 50 of you are in this place at this time, in that place, at that time, and anything in between. Like, this is just like prison.

[JD Delay]

I have a lot of people ask me, tell me, like, yo, I'm going up for a job for a correctional officer. What advice can you give me? And it's ffc. Be firm, fair and consistent. Don't let anybody push you around at all. Do not give an Inch. But be fair and be consistent. If you joke around with somebody one day and then they joke around with you the next day, and then you, like, are in a bad mood because you didn't get your duck sick, you know, the night before or something, don't go and wrap them up and throw them in the hole, because when they come out, you're gonna have issues with them. Just be consistent across the board. Try to leave that at home. At home. And try to leave your job in that prison before you go home to. To your family. You know, it's just. It's basic.

[Donut Operator]

But ask, tell, mate. Ask, tell, make.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, like, I don't.

[Donut Operator]

I don't know that easy.

[Brandon Herrera]

Ask, tell, make. Yeah, ask somebody to do something.

[Donut Operator]

To do something. If they don't do that, you tell them to do something and then you make them do it.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Like, you don't have to start off with make.

[JD Delay]

You.

[Donut Operator]

You do. Ask, tell, make. Like, you don't have to be a sucker at the beginning of the conversation.

[Brandon Herrera]

So baton is step three, not step one.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, it's ask, tell me.

[JD Delay]

I know this is no fun. We had an incident. Give me the one you call riding. Yes, Make. I live, Daddy.

[Eli Double Tap]

No.

[Donut Operator]

I gotta get out of here.

[JD Delay]

I gotta get out of here. I live about seven miles outside of the city limits where I live. And the street that we live on, the road we live on is people just gun it. It's a 55, but people do 80, 90 out there all the time. We had a dude that I was literally on a live stream, and I thought there was thunder. This dude was driving, and apparently he. He had just gotten in a fight with his wife. He had had mental health issues and addiction issues. And he had been in prison before, and this fight with his wife was really bad. And he sped up. The drivers behind him said he sped up to well over a hundred, and he just swerved off the road straight into a tree in our front yard, right at the front of our property. Hit the tree, the tree snapped in half. His truck went flying, tumbling through the front of our property and didn't stop till it hit BlackBerry bushes. Like, this dude willingly did this. Like, this dude decided to do this. So it was really tragic. Like, at first, I ran out as soon as I realized it wasn't thunder, and ran over. And the first thing I saw was there was a car seat in the truck. And I was like, holy, no. So we were out looking in the BlackBerry bushes to see if we could find a baby bro. Like, it was. It was up. There was no baby with him that day, though. We found that out when his wife eventually showed up because she was driving around looking for him and she just lost her. But almost every sheriff's deputy that we had out there showed up. And where I live, the deputies work in the jail. And so a lot of them had graduated from working in the jail to being field officers. And I knew at least like 3/4 of them from being a frequent flyer in that jail 10 years before.

[Brandon Herrera]

And all the flyers, wild work.

[JD Delay]

Delay. What's up? So one of the last times that I went in there. Officer Simpson, you're rad. By the way, thank you for always getting me to the kitchen where I can eat good and use bags of beans to do curls. But she said, delay. Do you know how many times you've been here? Just for reference? She's like, I'm telling you this because I don't think you're a piece of shit, but I do think you're fucking. You've been here 42 times.

[Eli Double Tap]

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[Brandon Herrera]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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[Donut Operator]

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[Eli Double Tap]

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Book today on the site or the app.

[JD Delay]

Do you understand how bad that is? And I'm like, yeah, that's. That's pretty fucking bad. But almost every, like, deputy that was out in my front yard, we own a big chunk of property. They knew me. So I'm out there talking with them, and a lot of them are like, I see you on YouTube all the time, bro. I'm like, hey, that's what's up. That's cool. And all of them, super cool, super chill, super respectful. Just, you Know, nice people met seeing him again under horrific circumstances. The poor wife was just broke down like laid out on the street, obviously.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm assuming the guy didn't make it.

[JD Delay]

Oh, no. Yeah. No, not at all. He was, he was. So when the first person arrived on scene, they said he was still breathing, but barely.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[JD Delay]

So it was.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's rough.

[JD Delay]

It was super tragic. His family was showing up to our. Our front of our property for weeks after that and everything. And I think they've still got a cross out there and some flowers. Things they update every once in a while.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, doing 100. We'll do that real fast, bro.

[JD Delay]

He snapped. He snapped a tree that was probably three and a half feet wide with his truck. He hit it so hard, thing just went. And then he went airborne and hit another tree about six feet up in the air with his truck. It. It was crazy, dude.

[Eli Double Tap]

Wild.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. Jesus. Jesus.

[Brandon Herrera]

There's a buddy of mine recently that just, just, it was probably a couple months ago, ended up getting a real bad wreck. Like him and his employee were just on the way back from. Back from the shop and they're going around a couple corners. They're in like, I don't know, my F1 F150 or something like that. Oh, like older, older school truck go around a corner and there's just some fucking drug dealer is like whipping a hundred. 100 miles an hour, 80 miles an hour around a corner, head on collision.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Thankfully my. My buddy and his friend both survived, but the drug dealer was like just instantly dead.

[JD Delay]

Well, I could say this. It's. That doesn't make me racist because I used to be a drug dealer. But yeah, I'll put it this way.

[Brandon Herrera]

If I had to, which one would I rather have survived? I'm glad my buddies.

[JD Delay]

Your friends, you're. I don't even know them. Your friends all day, bro.

[Brandon Herrera]

But I mean, looking at the, looking at the, the pictures from the crash, I'm shocked anybody survived because you do the mental math, adding those numbers together, that's insane.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Not a. Going fast in a car unless you know what you're doing, don't go fast in a car.

[Donut Operator]

What sucks about like some of the worst shit I ever saw as a cop. Like a police officer will get into a wreck and like they'll be going 30 miles an hour and die. But drunks, when fucking drunks get into wrecks, they'll kill a family of four and the drunk will survive like a lot of the time because they're like, yeah, they bounce around in the car. And it just sucks, like, seeing a family with like two, three, four, like, like, kids and stuff dead. But this stupid drunk is still, like, wakes up and it's like, whoa.

[Brandon Herrera]

What I do, dude, I've seen body cam footage that has pissed me the off where it's. I think it was. The one I'm thinking of right now is it was the female. I don't know if you've seen that one.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hospital.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, yeah. The one at the hospital where she's. She just killed, I think, multiple people.

[JD Delay]

Oh, my God, that chick.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Can I call my dad?

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

You're going to jail for murder. Like, you killed someone.

[JD Delay]

You're gonna go to prison. You're not. You're not going to school.

[Brandon Herrera]

But it's just the lack of. Of, like, the lack of empathy, awareness, accountability.

[JD Delay]

Do you think she was just drunk or do you think. And not being able to wrap her mind around it? Because I know that when you go into shock after a situation like that, your mind doesn't allow you. Like, I know that, like, when I found out that one of my kids had died, like, I was in shock and it wasn't real, and I couldn't really grasp anything. It was like the world wasn't real for a little bit. Do you think she was in shock or do you think it was just truly just her being a piece of.

[Eli Double Tap]

I think she blacked out and, like, just being a piece of shit. Because they had also.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, they kept telling her, though.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

Telling her, like, you fucking killed someone. You're not going anywhere.

[Eli Double Tap]

What? What? And they just had. Man, this is a couple of months ago. A kid who's 19, 20, drunk with his girlfriend, hit another car, didn't realize it, and smashed into a car in a parking lot. So cops, everyone show up. They don't realize there's this family over here with the dead dad and a little girl that is a parking lot away. And the cops are interviewing him. He's like, oh, sorry. I don't know what happened. I did have a drink or two, blah, blah, blah.

[JD Delay]

She's fine.

[Eli Double Tap]

We're fine.

[JD Delay]

That the car?

[Eli Double Tap]

Thank God there's no one in there. Yeah, I'm good. I. I'm gonna be a lawyer.

[JD Delay]

So what's your name, officer?

[Donut Operator]

And he's like, no, no, I. I just. I just did that one.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, okay.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah. So the. Yeah. And then he goes into, you're just racist. Why. Why are you trying to take me into custody? Was like.

[Brandon Herrera]

Wait, like what? He was claiming racist.

[Donut Operator]

He Was the passenger, and he was claiming racism. And yeah, he was like, I'm. I'm. I'm an attorney. I'm going to be an attorney. I'm going to do all this stuff.

[JD Delay]

Hold on. Let Eli say it. What. What ethnicity was he.

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, this one I made. Which one was this one? Because I had a white kid. This one's a white kid.

[JD Delay]

That.

[Donut Operator]

This is a black kid.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, so this is a different story. Oh, so this is a white kid who's like, oh, blah, blah, blah. He's asking the customer their badge numbers. And all the cops are being very cool because they just think, oh, this guy's pretty chill. 20 and this. Okay, one cop was at the other wreck with the dead dad and a little baby. Baby's alive, dad's not. Cop walks over and he's like, hey, officer, can I get your badge? Sorry about this. He's like, you fucking piece of shit.

[JD Delay]

Don't.

[Eli Double Tap]

I will fucking hit you right now. And the other cops like, yo, what's going on? He's like, he killed the family over there. Instantly switches, like. And all the cops are no longer this dude's friend. And his face goes, oh, I up. Didn't realize he hit a family's car on the other side to get where they are. I haven't seen that one. Holy.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, the one I'm talking about. It's like a black kid that starts saying racism because he was with a girl. And the girl hit two pedestrians, like they were driving down the road drunk and just fucking. Just mammered. These two chicks walking down the road.

[Brandon Herrera]

The one I. The one I sent you on that you apparently had already done on stream. That one kind of like, that one was really hard to watch because the full body cam is a lot of it. Focused a lot on the officers afterward and, like, their mental health and them talking to each other, like, processing what they saw. But it was pulling over. That one. It was like some black chick. I don't remember what state it was in, but she had. Had the bodies of her kids in the back. The trunk of her car decaying.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, that was her sister's kids.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, she had, like. Because they kept asking her, what is that smell? She's like, oh, it's meat or it's this, or whatever the fuck she said.

[Eli Double Tap]

She was driving around with it in.

[Brandon Herrera]

In trash bags in the trunk.

[Donut Operator]

She was living out of her car, and the two kids were in the trunk of the car. And she had been telling her sister for months that, like, yeah, I'm Taking care of your kids? I'm taking care of, taking care of them. They're fine. And she had let them starve to death and they were just dead in the trunk of her car.

[Brandon Herrera]

And it was like, it was in.

[Eli Double Tap]

Trash bags in like, this is like Florida summer heat.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, they, they were, they were.

[Brandon Herrera]

In luggage bags or whatever. And as soon as like the cops just like, what, what is that? They're like pushing, pushing, pushing.

[JD Delay]

She's like, I'm homeless. My PH is a little off.

[Donut Operator]

Well, no, that's what she was saying. She was like, I was home. I'm homeless, I'm living in my, my car. Like, I don't know what that smells like.

[Brandon Herrera]

That smells bad. And we need to look into it. They open the trunk, they unzip it and you could see the cop immediately draws just. It's a switch that, that flips and he just.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, I could like get the.

[Brandon Herrera]

On the ground. There's kids, there's kids in that trunk.

[JD Delay]

I don't, I don't know.

[Donut Operator]

I couldn't finish that video.

[JD Delay]

I would either.

[Brandon Herrera]

I haven't finished it to this day.

[Donut Operator]

Like it was, I was watching it on stream cuz someone said, watch this traffic stop. And I was like, all right, I'll watch this silly traffic stop. And I started watching that like I couldn't finish it.

[JD Delay]

I don't know how cops don't just end them. Just like I, I would not be a good cop because I find dead kids. Bro, you're, you're not going to jail, bro, you're going to the morgue. I find dead kids. Like I don't have it in me.

[Brandon Herrera]

And it was, it was up because this particular video again, which I, I liked this element of it, but it's still, it's very hard. Like there's, there's very few, few things. Like we watch death on the Internet all day long. There's very few things that you could say are just genuinely hard to stomach. And just the way the cops are talking to each other afterward and, and you could tell, they're like. You can watch someone process having experienced that in real time. It's just very, it's difficult.

[Donut Operator]

That was one of the things that made me not want to police anymore. Yeah, I ran into a dude who ran a local church in Spartanburg and he had just been like, the kids? No, it was, it was. Yeah, it wasn't like, I didn't find a dead kid, but we figured out this guy was like, actually just like with kids the whole time.

[Brandon Herrera]

You Took him in or like, what. What was.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, the. The investigators that was with. Took him in, but I had to take a step back from there and be like, I don't know if I want to do this anymore. I'd rather make YouTube videos.

[JD Delay]

Cody, coming from a situation where you were an officer and you were exposed to that type of stuff, how often do you find stories or videos that you have to just tap and go, no, I'm not. I'm not doing this?

[Donut Operator]

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[JD Delay]

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[JD Delay]

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[Donut Operator]

Like, when it comes to my YouTube content. Yeah, yeah, there's. There's a lot of stuff I don't fucking touch, man.

[JD Delay]

Like, there's the. The bunker situation in Alabama. Are you hip to the. The bunker that they found in Alabama where they'd been taking kids?

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm not.

[Donut Operator]

And I grew up, like, I was raised. Now, what. What part are you talking about?

[JD Delay]

God, I forget the. I forget the name of the. The county, bro. But it was a big story. They've been. For over a year, they've been taking kids down to this. It was a. It was a storm shelter, underground storm shelter, and they were taking kids down there, drugging them. They were tying them to a bed and having people. Bibb County. That's it. That I've tried four different times to sit down and record full length on that. And it triggers me out so bad, bro. I. I can't do it. It's a story that's like, my community keeps asking me to do it, and every time I do, I start getting into the details of what they were doing to these kids. I. I can't do it, bro.

[Donut Operator]

What? Yeah, that. That was the one that I couldn't finish on stream the other day, watching. And the. The kids. But, like, what ended up happening with the one Alabama you're talking about?

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, so they've got, like, just southwest of Birmingham, Alabama.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, they've got six or eight people in custody right now. And more and more details keep unfolding about it. They were charging, like, $200 a pop for people to come and just kids While they were drugged and tied to a filthy mattress.

[Brandon Herrera]

Jesus.

[JD Delay]

They were keeping kids down there for months at a time. Just cycling through these kids, and it had been going on for over a year.

[Brandon Herrera]

And there's a ton of people. It looks like they said that as many as 20. 20 more suspects wanted.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Can we. Can we please say bring back public hangings? Like, you sit in a town square.

[JD Delay]

Just talking about this on say hi.

[Donut Operator]

It was just like, that used to be a big thing back in the, like, cowboy days.

[Eli Double Tap]

Of course, like, everyone chippers live and you just chuck them in or just.

[Donut Operator]

Like, the town hang. Like, people would come from miles around and you would have, like, a picnic and you would have fun.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

The dude that had killed someone that week would get hung from the town square. Like, you can see them. The. They were like. Like what they did.

[Brandon Herrera]

I feel like that's.

[Donut Operator]

They get hung.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's like, the one thing we can all agree on is, like, all right, if we know for a fact that you've been doing that to children, that's. That's pretty universally agreed, no matter where you are on the political spectrum, I would think, anyway. No, that is cause for a. For a public hanging.

[JD Delay]

Trump is a businessman, and there's a way to sell this, and there's a way to pay off our national White. That's what I was about to say. Partner with Dana White, bro. Bring back gladiators. You know what I'm saying? Build a coliseum. Chomo battles, bro. Like, Cho battles. Chos battle each other. Chomos battle like a gorilla on bath salts, wearing armor and armed, you know, just.

[Brandon Herrera]

And whoever wins gets the right to a quick and easy hanging.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, well, I mean, you can even tell them you're going to let him go and then just execute him and. And everybody laughs. He sucker.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dude, if I got pay per view.

[JD Delay]

Bro, imagine the contract. Imagine the contract you could get on having that. Like, didn't he just contract out UFC.

[Eli Double Tap]

For, like, oh, Hulu?

[JD Delay]

Yeah. Paramount just paid, bro. I mean, if. If you're talking billions, you can get Trump on board with killing chomos. I. I just think that you can.

[Donut Operator]

Is that what a chomo is?

[JD Delay]

A chomo is a child? Yeah. Yeah, dog.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah.

[JD Delay]

So there's. There's like. So since, you know, YouTube is so. I. Since I do a lot of shorts, I have to. I can't. They don't like me to use the word pedophile or, you know, child, anything like that. So we use a lot of euphemisms like chomo slides Some of the times. Kindergarten commando. Playground extraction specialist. Diaper sniffer.

[Brandon Herrera]

Dear God. Those are. Those are far worse, in my opinion.

[JD Delay]

Rock spider, which is what the Australians call them because rock spiders are spiders that crawl into very small crevices. Oh, goofs is what they call them in Canada. Nonces with what they call them in the UK with goofs.

[Eli Double Tap]

How is that? Because ever so, you big goof. That's what's.

[JD Delay]

Bro. The thing is, is if you call somebody from Canada a goof, they're on and cracking, bro. They're fighting. They go from. Really.

[Eli Double Tap]

Not your pal.

[JD Delay]

What are you.

[Donut Operator]

Friend, pal.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. You call him a goof. And that's. That's on in fighting words because you're calling them a pillow.

[Donut Operator]

Okay, so. So we take the chomos. Obviously we hate them, but we take the dudes who are on death row for like, murder. They still suck.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

We have them fight the chomos. And so the dudes on death row, maybe they can like get some canteen.

[JD Delay]

A bucket of KFC dog.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah.

[JD Delay]

They would do it for a bucket of cave. They would do it just to do it, to be honest with you. But like, in incentivize it, give them, you know, like, you get a two for ten, dog.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, I mean, the easy one, the like the free space in Bingo is to take these, the violent illegals that have, you know, committed murder or something like that while they're here in the United States and then just put them up against each other pay per view style with Alien versus Predator.

[Donut Operator]

Alien versus.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. That's like. That's the free space.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, absolutely. You know, we could do like. And it could be. You could keep it interesting. Like versus Steamroller. That's a win versus car.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, Car wins again.

[JD Delay]

There's so much different belt sander.

[Brandon Herrera]

I just.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh, my God.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, dude. Like, so, like, we have a. You know, I have a huge wood shop. My. My dad's a professional stair builder and has been for, you know, 30, 40 years. So we've got a huge belt sander. And I've often just thought, like, we could just take some off the top. We could just slide them through there. Take some off the top. It's, you know, all you have to do is just get them on there and they'll just. It'll just suck them in and just, Just take. Take a nice little. Take a nice little half inch off that with some 80 grit.

[Brandon Herrera]

If I did a video where it was. We took one of these, like the human ballistic dummies and just shoved it into a wood chipper. Would you want to collab on that?

[JD Delay]

So very much, bro. So very much. I've been. Been thinking about that. I've been thinking about things that I could do with a wood chipper. Once I finally attain a wood chipper of my own. I know that pigs are the closest thing to a human body. And I was thinking like, you know, YouTube monetized. Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna myself on YouTube on that. Huh?

[Eli Double Tap]

Maybe ballistic dummy, though.

[JD Delay]

Maybe.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah. No, YouTube's never had a problem with ballistic dummies because it's all just like, it's for science. It's. You know what would happen.

[JD Delay]

I want to. It has to be feet first. It. That's.

[Brandon Herrera]

They're very expensive, I think for the full. For the full body. I want to say it's like seven grand or whatever.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, we can.

[Brandon Herrera]

For the sake of science.

[JD Delay]

I think we'll figure something out, bro. Yeah, we'll collab on that. We'll figure that out for sure.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'll get on the horn with ballistic dummy labs later. We'll see if we can figure this out.

[JD Delay]

You let me know.

[Brandon Herrera]

I need to buy a wood chipper too, though. Yeah, like I said, we need to. We need to get you chippy.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, I need to. I need to have a Mr. Chippy. I'm loving the AI videos of me that are coming out with me and Bigfoot and Yeti and like the three of us are like hunting and Bigfoot and Yeti are feeding them into Mr. Chippy and like the dude who's doing it, his name's Big True and he does great AI videos. Like, they even nailed my tattoos and shit.

[Brandon Herrera]

Really? I was actually, when you were telling me that earlier, I was wondering how they do the tattoos. If they just do generic tattoos or like uses yours.

[JD Delay]

Nailed it so well. Like, Big True is so good at this and be weird. Like, it's super weird, bro. I've done reaction lives to them and it's just. It's crazy watching myself hanging out with Bigfoot, who's. I mean, we're basically kin folk anyway. And then yeti and like, they're rolling up to, you know, chomo's houses and kicking their doors in and grabbing them and bringing them and dog walking them on a leash down the street and to take them to the. The wood chipper. And the wood chipper has. The wood Chipper has JD Delay 5150 painted on the side in blood, and they're just feeding chomos into it and it's wild. So I made a Mr. Chippy shirt that's available on BunkerBranding.com. hey, it's super cool that I. I got to get in with you guys on that. This is actually the Bunker Branding make afraid again shirt with the wood chipper. The bloody wood chipper in the middle of the woods on it. It comes with sleeves if you buy it. And I like it.

[Eli Double Tap]

The horse.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. You can take the sleeves off if you want. I did.

[Brandon Herrera]

Hell, yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

It's fucking great. I've not seen that one.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, man. Yeah. This is. So the make freight, again is something we've been doing for a while. The hat, too, is available at Bunker Branding. But this was, you know, we needed to mix the wood chipper in with that, and I felt like this just worked.

[Eli Double Tap]

You killed that one. Holy.

[JD Delay]

Oh, my God.

[Eli Double Tap]

What a positive episode.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, right?

[JD Delay]

Yeah, I think it's positive.

[Eli Double Tap]

I know.

[JD Delay]

We're getting that. Make sure your kids watch this.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, I think it's positive as, like, talking about second chances and how to make the most out of, you know, life and all these opportunities that are given before you. Awesome. And also, if you kids, then we'll. We'll kill you.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, absolutely. Well, here's the thing, bro, is that there are people who deserve second chances, and there are people who are just inherently evil.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[JD Delay]

And I think that all of us at this table, I think that the majority of people have never had to actually look into the eyes of someone who is inherently fucking evil. But I think that all of us probably have at some point in our life. And those people don't need a second chance. They don't need to be paroled. They need to be taken off the planet.

[Brandon Herrera]

Well, because there's certain things, like, you know, for killing someone, you can at least have a reason. Like half the. Half the people I know have killed someone at one point or the other. There's no reason for the other thing.

[JD Delay]

No, there's.

[Brandon Herrera]

There's not a single one.

[JD Delay]

There are justifiable reasons to kill somebody. There's never a justifiable reason to. Or assault somebody. A justifiable reason to kill somebody could be that they assaulted somebody. It's. It's pretty simple. There's. But there's also, you know, you. You get to talking about child killers. Baby killers, people who kill innocent women or innocent men. You know, that definitely needs to be dealt with. But I just. There's something different about taking a life as opposed to getting aroused and taking the innocence from a child. It's not Even full we were talking about it. I don't even think that it's fully a sexual thing. I think it's about power, it's about control. And I think that they get off from taking, stripping the innocence from something innocent. Because even if you castrate these people, they're still going to reoffend. And the studies show that category across the board.

[Brandon Herrera]

They used to chemically castrate people.

[JD Delay]

Well and they're trying to bring that back, but even that is ineffective because people, even if they can't get bricked up, they're going to use fingers, mouths, objects. Like the stuff that's in every single drawer in this kitchen, for God's sake.

[Brandon Herrera]

Is it there, I guess the recidivism rate on that, Is it lowered if you chemically castrate them? Or like what is it literally just that they're that up that it doesn't even bother them?

[Eli Double Tap]

Well, as we. Again, it's no difference in trying to cure a serial killer. It is so far gone on their psyche. I truly believe there's like most serial killers, at least the smart ones are like, but not Ed Gein, who's the tall one, the really high IQ one. Kemp Camp. Yeah, Edward Kemp. Ed Kemp, he was the first to say, he's like, how do you cure this? What do you do? He's like, oh, you have to kill us. Yeah, that's it. There's the only way to cure us. There is no curing us. This is a dude that has a hundred and sixty iq, highly intelligent, hunted. This is what he did. He truly believes, he's like, there is no curing us. There is not a possible way to do that. You have to end our lives.

[Brandon Herrera]

And I'm, I'm sure that's true for again the majority of them, but I'm, I'm just out of curiosity, like does the chemical castration have any statistical effect on whether or not they are likely to reoffend?

[Donut Operator]

Why should we even explore that?

[JD Delay]

Other than.

[Donut Operator]

Yes, that's why I shoot them in the head.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's why I said out of curiosity. Cuz I like don't get me wrong, I'm on the wood chipper train. Like if you, I'm sorry, if you are, if you're willing to do that to a fucking 12 year old, you're beyond dead to me. Like I. The faster we can get you off the fucking planet, the better.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, but well, here's the thing is you cannot fix it, bro. Like, I assume that both of you men have a certain proclivity towards women. Is that a fair assumption?

[Brandon Herrera]

I think that's pretty fair.

[JD Delay]

So is there anything I can say.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like it's in this context.

[JD Delay]

Is there, is there anything that women.

[Donut Operator]

Who are of age, that are women.

[JD Delay]

Who are of age. Is there anything I could say to you that would entice you to switch that up? Not like women anymore and just want to have the back of your esophagus ruined by a purple pipe? No, you can't fix child. They have this thing. They want children. And I don't think it's. Like I said, I don't think it's purely sexual. So I don't think it's something we should classify as a sexuality like a lot of the left wants to do. I think it's something we should just fucking eradicate.

[Brandon Herrera]

You.

[JD Delay]

You see a child, you want to take their innocence for sexual gratification.

[Brandon Herrera]

There's nothing we can do to make you not want that kind of thing.

[JD Delay]

No, there's not. It's like it's, you know, their entire.

[Brandon Herrera]

Life they are always going to want to do the one thing that.

[Eli Double Tap]

Okay, so from it, from this article, you're looking at a. Compared to the expected rates of 50% of reoffending, which is wild. This goes to 5% from that. But this is again a reduced, reduced rate to 5% for the study as of right now.

[Brandon Herrera]

Okay, so they, the, the, the reoffender rate goes from 50 to 5.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yes, as of now. But then how many people don't get caught? Because that's when it's think it's.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, that is the, the thing is that they get more adapt and they. I think it's, it's just, it's there. It's an opportunistic crime. I think that they're just waiting for a situation. I think given an opportunity where they know they're not going to get caught, 100% of them reoffend. So it's a ticking time bomb that's going to go off on a child. Is there any reason to leave that sitting around? Nope.

[Brandon Herrera]

Especially if you've already proven one time. Yeah, they're like, oh, wow. Yeah, your, your impulse control is so bad that you're willing to do like the most despicable thing you can do to a child.

[Eli Double Tap]

Mr. Swirly. Okay, that's the part. Yeah, we've talked about Mr. Swirl before. You know this one? No, Mr. Swirl, like, this is a dude that would travel. He was famous in the Chomo community, and he would post pictures.

[Brandon Herrera]

Horrible sentence.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, he would post Pictures with kids after abuse. But his face was swirled. So they called him Mr. Swirls. And he was known for this. And after a decade, two decades, the FBI. And again, this is famous within that community. FBI. One guy was like, wait, I have an idea. Photoshop Unswirl. He literally just went reverse swirl and it reconstructed the dude's face. And they're like, oh, fuck, that's. That's our guy. He was a Canadian. He was traveling to Thailand or Cambodia. Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand and doing this. And at least 12 young boys. He was part of that. They actually charged him with. He was more. He was in more than 300 photographs depicting him with these kids now.

[Brandon Herrera]

300.

[Eli Double Tap]

300 kids. That's why he was famous. This is fucking widely shared of how many images he was with kids. And he was. Oh, my God, look. This dude actually showed his body, not his face, but he showed the evidence. He would just swirl his face. So he became famous in that ring. Now the fucking. This is why I hate Canada. For this one reason. He went back to. He got arrested in Thailand. He did five years in Thailand. So he did five years in Thailand from. Or four years, 2008 to 2012, and then he was released to Canada. Once he got to Canada, what year? 2012. He was released immediately because he didn't do it in Canada.2013, though. Breach of.

[Brandon Herrera]

He did it again.

[Eli Double Tap]

He did it again. More photos of him with kiddos. So he was arrested at his home and pleaded guilty. In October of 2000, 2013. They found a child on his laptop and mobile phone. And in 2014, he was sentenced to prison for three months.

[JD Delay]

Jesus.

[Eli Double Tap]

And three years of probation.

[JD Delay]

Boom.

[Eli Double Tap]

Then released in December 15th, he was sentenced to five years because he got. After three months, sentenced to five years, five and a half years and prison by British Columbia court and was later reduced down to 15 months. He was released in March of 2017 and is currently living in Vancouver.

[Brandon Herrera]

Does he have an address?

[Eli Double Tap]

No, but I'm sure the Internet.

[Donut Operator]

I've just got a curiosity.

[Eli Double Tap]

Christopher Paul Neil, like. But that is the thing.

[JD Delay]

He is.

[Eli Double Tap]

He has been a repeat of repeat offender each and every time. And Canada did. They're like, oh, you did this. This is documented. The guy who didn't do it.

[Brandon Herrera]

Here it. Yeah. The guy who's responsible for ruining children's lives in the hundreds.

[Eli Double Tap]

Hundreds.

[JD Delay]

And that's how you end up with people like my friend, the Alaskan avenger. Yeah, that's exactly how you end up with people like Jason Vukovich.

[Brandon Herrera]

Who the coolest name drop you've done so far, actually, bro.

[JD Delay]

He's. He's the bro. That's my guy.

[Donut Operator]

Who. Who is that?

[Brandon Herrera]

The Alaskan avenger.

[JD Delay]

The Alaskan avenger.

[Donut Operator]

The hammer guy?

[JD Delay]

Yes. Yes.

[Donut Operator]

And he's in prison right now.

[JD Delay]

No, he's not, actually. So we. He had a parole hearing coming up, and me and him had been talking for a couple years, and I worked up a action plan where he was going to be working for my recovery coaching company, and we're gonna have community support and, you know, I'm pretty decent at making these action plans for parole.

[Donut Operator]

Wait, the. Take a step back. Is he the guy that hit.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

With a hammer?

[JD Delay]

Yeah. He used the sex offender registry to locate child offenders.

[Brandon Herrera]

People is a wild word.

[JD Delay]

It is. It really is. Let's show the sexuals. Pederists. Convicted pederus. And so he would go to their houses and go in and smash them up with a hammer. Now, he didn't kill anybody and he.

[Donut Operator]

Used the sex offender registry to go in and.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, I used it like a to do list, bro. It was great.

[Donut Operator]

Sounds like a cool guy.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. So. But he did it because it happened to him as a kid. And so, you know, he.

[Brandon Herrera]

His brother too, or something like that.

[JD Delay]

It happened to his brother as well. And his brother ended up getting out of the situation and they sent him home with his dad, who had just been convicted of doing that to his brother and given probation. So he was finding these dudes, mashing them out. We got him when he went to the parole board, mashing them out.

[Donut Operator]

It's wild.

[JD Delay]

Hey, strike him a whole bunch.

[Brandon Herrera]

The last thing you hear on this earth is it's clobbering time.

[JD Delay]

He had bonk. He had 10 years left to do. Potato.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, it's potato time. We're mashing them out.

[JD Delay]

He had 10 years left to do. The parole board gave him back five years, and that put him eligible for house arrest. So he ended up. We talked to the house arrest people, let him know what he was going to be doing. He was going to be working as a recovery coach, yada, yada, yada. They let him out, and me and my wife flew out to Alaska and I taught him how to use an iPhone because he'd been locked up for so long. Long. He didn't know how to use an iPhone. Taught him how to make content. He's a YouTuber. He's approaching a hundred thousand on YouTube.

[Donut Operator]

You. You did your research with this guy too? Like, he. He didn't do, like, really up. He Just wanted to kill pedophiles, right?

[JD Delay]

Yeah. No, he was just hunting, bro. He has a criminal record where, like, you know, like petty. Petty theft.

[Donut Operator]

Say, like, yeah, he probably.

[JD Delay]

Stuff like this.

[Donut Operator]

He didn't have any up in his background. No, nothing gnarly.

[JD Delay]

No, nothing at all.

[Donut Operator]

He just went back to his childhood and was like, no, these people are going to get up.

[JD Delay]

Yep. And he's doing really, really incredibly well. He works construction and does his YouTube thing and does recovery coaching.

[Eli Double Tap]

Go, Brandon, go.

[Brandon Herrera]

You saw the smile. It's got to be very. That was my second thought.

[JD Delay]

Yes, he does have a hammer.

[Brandon Herrera]

My first thought was, it's got to be really, really hard. As a recovery coach for most of the time with what you say is like, look, don't go back to a life of drugs. Don't go back to the things that put you in prison to this guy. You're like, well, you'll go back to jail.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

He has a Bible with a hammer.

[Brandon Herrera]

He opens it up. He's. He's doing the. Dude, he's doing the John Wick in.

[Eli Double Tap]

His basement with a sledgehammer to block.

[Brandon Herrera]

Breaking up the concrete to break. Break out the smaller hammers.

[JD Delay]

He's actually already gone back to jail since they let him out.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's amazing. Sorry, that was.

[Brandon Herrera]

That was burning a hole in my brain. What was that?

[JD Delay]

That's your friend. Your friend find a sledgehammer to pull out little hammers is great.

[Eli Double Tap]

Your buddy's about to have a whole.

[JD Delay]

Bunch of artwork sitting his way.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[JD Delay]

The wild is. He's already been back to jail since they let him out on house arrest for that. He said on YouTube what? Yeah. So he was out on house arrest.

[Donut Operator]

And Kanata.

[JD Delay]

Well, he was. He was maybe getting dangerously close to inciting people to violence towards on YouTube and he needed to be reigned in a little bit by. Because legally, he was getting close. And so he's. He's straightened that out and he's readjusted his approach. And so he's doing really, incredibly well now. I'm really proud of him after spending, you know, over a decade in prison and having a lifetime of trauma. And, like, he used his time in prison to. To address his traumas and to get clean and to find recovery and to, like, this dude is like, theologically. This dude has read, like, every religious book out there, and he's, like, explored and educated himself. And, you know, he's out and he's really helping his community now. And he's also reaching people on a global level through social Media.

[Brandon Herrera]

What's his, his major, like outreach? Like what, what's his, what's his thing? What does he do?

[JD Delay]

So his thing is he, he speaks a lot on child endangerment and you know, on how to protect your kids. And he does a lot of the same type of stories that, that I do. He'll do some of those stories, you know about. But he comes at it from a less let's throw them in the wood chipper approach and more like parents. This is what you can do to try to keep your kids safe.

[Brandon Herrera]

Right, right.

[JD Delay]

That type of a thing. Because he definitely can't encourage wood chipper or hammer behavior. He had to get rid of some merch too, that had hammers on it.

[Brandon Herrera]

I was just gonna say because when you were talking about like, oh, he had to change his approach quite a bit and like, yeah, just change the verbiage. You just have a T shirt that's says hug your local. That just has a hammer below it.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, he's not allowed to. He's actually not allowed to make merch that has hammers on it.

[Brandon Herrera]

Really?

[JD Delay]

Yeah, that's.

[Brandon Herrera]

Is that an official judgment?

[JD Delay]

It's kind of a thing.

[Donut Operator]

Also, you can't trace shotgun shells.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, I, I love, I love how my friend who's ex law enforcement keeps encouraging me towards firearms.

[Brandon Herrera]

There's no ballistic data available because you can't trace rifling. Because there is none.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, that's.

[Brandon Herrera]

I mean I'm. I'm not encouraging anything.

[Donut Operator]

I'm just telling you the subjective is rifling. Make sure you wear gloves because you're not putting your thumbprints on the shells. But whatever.

[JD Delay]

You know, this is just nuggets of wisdom. Just golden nuggets of wisdom.

[Donut Operator]

I don't know what you guys do out there. Pedophiles aren't people.

[Eli Double Tap]

I even know this.

[JD Delay]

I. That was one of my favorite shirts that I made when I was with convict clothing before I jumped to Bunker.

[Brandon Herrera]

Clothing is wild too.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's no longer in existence, but we had the aren't people shirt that was just great. I think I'm gonna bring it back with Bunker.

[Donut Operator]

We're best friends, buddy.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. Yeah, that's something I've been, I've been saying that for long before I was on the Internet. You aren't people. In fact, I think, I think it was something that I started saying after when I got sentenced to prison. The guy who got sentenced before me got sentenced for two on a minor charges and it was four year old boys and he got six months in county jail and six months probation. I went in for stealing three Hondas and I got 39 months in prison. I deserve that time. I'm not bitching about the time that I got. I probably should have got more time for that, but that should have got a shitload more time than me.

[Donut Operator]

Wait, so wait, you stole a couple of cars and you got what, 30, what'd you say?

[JD Delay]

39 months. It was three cars.

[Donut Operator]

He fucked around with four year olds.

[JD Delay]

Four year old boys.

[Donut Operator]

How long did he get?

[JD Delay]

Six months in county and six months probation.

[Brandon Herrera]

So the thing that I was just in Massachusetts for an event that was for a, like a pro gun. Cause Right. Just maybe a couple days ago. And that was one, one thing I did want us to film is we, we 3D printed a fin grip because now they, they have the featureless thing up there too where you can't have, you know, an AR15 that has access to a pistol grip.

[Eli Double Tap]

Oh yeah.

[Brandon Herrera]

And so we had 3D printed a fin grip for it and install it in the gun. And I need it in the video. Like I, I need it to where it broke the fin grip off. And I'm like, what I just did will get you more, more jail time in the state of Massachusetts or can give you more jail time in the state of Massachusetts than raise a child.

[JD Delay]

Holy.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like that is. Talk about how fucked our laws are. That's absurd.

[Eli Double Tap]

Dude. It's the idea. Even the other day it is having a pistol ar, which means it just has the loop back. Then the brace. Yeah, the brace. Bus stock. Putting a vertical foreground. It's an instant 5, 10 year felony.

[Brandon Herrera]

10. According to the NFA, that is 10 years in prison and or $250,000 fine.

[Eli Double Tap]

Front for grip.

[Brandon Herrera]

Just a vertical.

[Eli Double Tap]

As vertical though. If it's angled, you're fine. If it's a front vertical, instantly that. And that's where. What the fuck? Yeah, on those laws I do. That's actually really good. Breaking the fin and you're like. And you're a fucking felon.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, which. That, that thing that I just did. That hurts. Nobody will get you more jail time in some states than doing that to a child. Which is to me that is just the, just the biggest miscalculation of justice you could possibly have.

[JD Delay]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[Donut Operator]

It's why you think I got out of policing, buddy.

[Brandon Herrera]

I'm like, I'm feeling like my blood pressure in my temples right now talking about it.

[Donut Operator]

I couldn't stand it anymore. I keep saying like I got out of it because I, I made more money doing YouTube. I got out of it because I couldn't stand what the people were getting charged over. Other people.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, well.

[JD Delay]

And. And so police officers are out there doing this work and clearly like they're human beings. Many of them are fathers or mothers, and they're out there doing this work because they believe in it, because they want to keep their community safe. And they, they are restricted by the laws that they have. But they still go out and they catch these predators and then they see these predators get a slap on the wrist. How soul crushing must that be when you had to go in and you had to see that actually happen, and then you see the justice system fail and let these predators back out with just a slap on the wrist? That's so insulting.

[Donut Operator]

It's horrific, man, because like, I'm in the fortunate position where I am right now, like, or back in the day where I'm. I'm a good storyteller and so I went the YouTube route and I was able to make a career off of that. But like there's so like so many police officers to see the same thing. Like you're talking about just soul crushing and they, they have to see that every day and there's nothing they can do about it.

[Brandon Herrera]

That's why you got to give shouts out to guys like Colazzo or guys like rich angry cops who. Yeah, you know, the shit he has to deal with on the day to day. Just in his job that I think very clearly mentally affects him like as.

[Eli Double Tap]

A svu, as a person.

[JD Delay]

Bro, SVU is crazy. Have to do it like financially, he doesn't have to be there. He does that because he gives a bro. And then he has the media come after him because he gives a. And he's trying to make his community safer and he's trying to get justice for victims. He could literally just do his YouTube and probably make more money than he's making right now, but he chooses to do the right thing.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, so.

[Donut Operator]

So my, My sister, she's a child crimes investigator and I wanted to get her out of doing that. And. And so she worked with me for a while and I paid her more than she was making as a child crowns investigator. And she had to go back to like helping kids after. Like, like she, she left my company and went back to helping kids after that because she's just like had to help the kids and she's one of the type of people like she was doing. She was, She's. She does this stuff where she acts like she's a like little girl.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Like she, she uses the, the filters and stuff to make to look like a 13 year old girl to catch these predators. And she worked with me for a while and then she went back to that just to keep catching child predators.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, there's. And you know, like, I have a lot of friends that are doing that and I would really, really like to do some catches. I would really like to do some catches somewhere where they actually give enough of a. Like, like I did it with Chris Hansen in the Blunt County Sheriff's Office and the things that they have set up in Alabama with. God, what is that law? You, I'm sure you know the law. It's the, the law where they don't let people out on bond. It's named after Anaya. Anaya's Law. They have Anaya's Law. So by the time they show up, they've already got them just them showing up. They don't even have to come into the house. They're already going to get arrested. They're going to get charged. They already know exactly what their charges are going to be. They're going to face about 15 years. They're not going to get out on bond because they're going to Anais Law them. And the way that the Blount County Sheriff's office had it set up was just, it was beautiful. And Hanson does his thing. My friend who runs the X5 podcast, Charlie Reese, he's a country musician and he, he donates a lot of money to the sheriff's department to be able to fund it so that they can do these things that they don't have funds for because it's a tiny sheriff's department in a big county.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[JD Delay]

And like he got him a Belgian Malinois. This fur missile. That's just savage. I was like, oh, the dog. They're like, don't go near that thing. That is not a dog. That is a weapon. Because I'm retarded. And I like dogs, bro. Like, I like all dogs. And I'm convinced that every dog will like me. Not this dog.

[Eli Double Tap]

I'll use a light voice and it.

[JD Delay]

Will fall in love with. We almost got to see this dog take flight on a bro like this dude. Like, it was just because it was raining and they didn't have the dog quite ready yet. But this dude shows up. Of course he's. Of course he's a high school gym teacher because of course he is trying to meet up with a 15 year old and he shows up at the house. Chris walks out and he goes running out, makes it to his car. They did a high speed chase. Got his ass. He had two pistols on him. Oh, he had a pistol on him. To meet up with a 15 year old girl, to her for money. And he's a high school gym teacher.

[Brandon Herrera]

Was it one of his students?

[JD Delay]

It was not one of his students. It was, it was, it was a bait thing where they had somebody that was over 18 pretending to be 15 now while I was there, it was two days and they got six of these dudes. Three of these dudes that came, came armed with guns. One pulled the gun out of his waistband. They didn't even know he had it. He's. Here's the counter. Chris Hansen's right here. He pulls it out and puts it down on the counter. And the cops were about to tackle him before he put it down. They thought they were going to shoot. They thought he was going to shoot. Chris Hansen. Chris Hansen barely flinched, man. That dude is ice cold. He's ice cold with it, bro. Like, and then when you get in the car with him after these super high adrenaline busts and stuff, he puts on Tom Petty and drums on the steering wheel as he drives and he's just super calm like. Dude's a G for.

[Donut Operator]

So like the first time you met him, did he ever say, have a seat right here, J.D.

[JD Delay]

No, actually.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's really good to talk to you, actually.

[Donut Operator]

I mean I've see and you're like, what the, Did I do what the.

[JD Delay]

No, it was, it was kind of like with, with Rich. The first time I met him, he was, he was kind of chill, you know, Kind of chill. Rich, Rich could have cavity searched me. I kind of regret that he didn't. But maybe under different circumstances, I'll always have Paris. I'd been on his, his podcast a couple times before I flew out there to go do that. And he's just, he's super chill. He's actually working on. I know that you covered the Schlep Roblox situation. Yes, sir. Thank you so much. Much for granting your voice to that and putting more, more voice to that man. Because that situation is. So Schlep's working with Chris on this thing. I, I had Schlep and Reuben Sim on Roblox. Actually. Reuben Sim was exposing how many predators were on there. They sued, tried to sue him for $1.6 million. He's a YouTuber, a youngster with over a million followers. And he was just talking about like hey, we need to stop. There's a lot of predators on this. And they're like, yeah, we're suing you. But he whooped their ass in court. So, yeah, it was really cool in the Blount County Sheriff's office were so professional and so cool with it. We spent two days doing that with them. And that was an amazing thing. I think it would be really cool to have a predator catcher pepper box show. I'm just saying. I think it would be great.

[Brandon Herrera]

Can I.

[Donut Operator]

Can I talk about Roblox for a minute?

[JD Delay]

Yes, please.

[Donut Operator]

You're okay with me talking about this? Yeah, go for them.

[Brandon Herrera]

But it.

[Donut Operator]

If you have a room, like, because Roblox is divided into rooms where like, multiple, like, children can go into those rooms.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like servers?

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, yeah, like servers. They're. They're servers. If you can go into these rooms and there's obviously like CP stuff going in there, how can the people that own this platform not go in for three seconds and just delete all these rooms and ban everyone in there?

[JD Delay]

They can, but they'll lose money.

[Donut Operator]

Ex.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's what's.

[JD Delay]

They can, but they'll lose and I don't care. Sue me. I've been talking cash. I don't give a. I'll win. Just like Ruben Sims. Punch your ass. They. They. So they have rooms. Some of these rooms, like escape to. To Epstein Island.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah.

[JD Delay]

And the, the COVID for this is a screaming child running from Jeffrey Epstein or Diddy Party Simulator.

[Brandon Herrera]

So like when, when you get in the server, like, what is the. Is there like actual sexual content in the.

[JD Delay]

They're. Yeah, they're actually totally behind on this. Actual adults having simulated sex with kids in here. And also, so to get new stuff in there, you. You spend. They have their own currency. Roblox.

[Brandon Herrera]

John knows all about the.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, I've spent a lot of money on Robux for my kids. And that's part of why I'm so pissed off about this because there are people out there. There are out there who are offering kids actively openly holding like their, their sign above their head is. Is saying. Signaling that they'll give you Robux to meet them on Snap and give them pictures nudes. So they're buying child with their currency. And then these kids are getting sextorted where they're. They're telling them, hey, I have this picture of you and what you did is illegal and I'll report you to the police unless you give me more. More images of you. And didn't you say you have a younger sister? And they'll get, they'll sex stored them into doing other with siblings or the household pet. Like that is happening on a daily basis. Kids are getting kidnapped and killed off of Roblox. And they are an $89 billion corporation that is prioritizing their profit margins over the safety of the children they sell their product to.

[Brandon Herrera]

Is there any way for them, this company to have like IP addresses and whatnot of the users? Like can. If, if someone was to do some exploration in the actual like the back channels of the company? Like do they have the information of these people that are performing these actions or.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, 100. Yeah, I'm sure they would.

[JD Delay]

Absolutely. Why.

[Brandon Herrera]

Why the aren't we doing?

[Donut Operator]

The ones that I was exploring in the video that I did, they were like, it's a public bathroom.

[JD Delay]

Public bathroom simulator.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, public bathroom simulator. And there were so many of those rooms where it's like. Public bathrooms where it's like that's where you're gonna like if.

[Brandon Herrera]

Did you go into them?

[Donut Operator]

No, I, I didn't go into them. I was just exploring Schlep's things that he was doing. And like there are so many public bathroom simulators, which is where you would find a vulnerable child. And they have those simulators all over Roblox and all Roblox has to do is go in and just delete them.

[JD Delay]

There's club simulators where there's private rooms with beds. There is so much sick going on inside of Roblox. And instead of like, instead of addressing it, they're banning people who are exposing it, like Schlep and Reuben Sim and they're suing them. Or since it didn't work with Reuben Sim, they sent Schlep a cease and desist order instead.

[Brandon Herrera]

For what? On what grounds?

[JD Delay]

He was, he was catching off of their platform and they made a, a, they changed their terms of service and put in a vigilante clause. No vigilante clause.

[Donut Operator]

So they said he was revealing personal information, which I don't think he was doing that. He was just showing what was happening on the platform.

[Eli Double Tap]

The sheer fact they put in a vigilante clause is wild.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, that's how they addressed it.

[Eli Double Tap]

No, this is illegal.

[JD Delay]

They don't have a no clause, but they have a no vigilante clause. Yeah.

[Donut Operator]

Eli, think about it. We, we start a gaming platform and we, we figure out there's on our gaming platform. What would we do? Just ban them? Yeah, announce it. Ban them. Like, show them to the public. Like these are. This is what's happening. They Don't. They just don't do it. They. They go after the people like that, like Schlep and people like that.

[JD Delay]

Schlepp grew up playing roblox and at 12 years old he was groomed by someone on it. So that's why it's his passion. And he went on to work with Alex Rossin and he did some of his bus with Gideon and they're attacking him for getting six dudes off of their app arrested and charged for what they were doing to children. And they're going after Schlep. It's insanity.

[Eli Double Tap]

Wild.

[JD Delay]

Yeah.

[Eli Double Tap]

Especially if that's your product.

[JD Delay]

Well, now the state of Louisiana, the, the Attorney General of the state of Louisiana is suing them.

[Brandon Herrera]

Good.

[JD Delay]

Representative Ro Khanna is trying to get Congress to act on this. Which. What are they trying to do, Row man? Like I, I know that I don't agree with Roe on a lot of. But the. I agree with Row on is I agree with him. He wanted the Epstein revealed. He wants Roblox shut the down.

[Brandon Herrera]

Like, you know, I mean, what, what, what exactly. What specific things are they pushing for?

[Eli Double Tap]

Just really quick when you have a fight. Under 13, approximately 39.7 million daily active users under that age.

[Donut Operator]

Every. I think, I think the one that I read was Every child under 16 in the United States. Half of them are playing Roblox.

[Eli Double Tap]

I mean when you're looking at that number, that is a staggering number for active users. 49 million is.

[Donut Operator]

And also like 39 mil. It's fucking, it's.

[JD Delay]

It's a.

[Donut Operator]

It's a fun thing to play. It's really cool. But like, how can you not go in like Schlepp and those guys did and see, okay, this room is. Why can't we ban them? And they're, they're just not doing that.

[JD Delay]

I forget the name of the YouTuber but he's got like 13.3 million and his whole. He's built his whole channel off of. He's a Roblox player and it's his whole thing. He's been doing it for years and he just quit. He actually gets paid by Roblox to be a player and he just quit. And he did an A video where he showed people, I'm gonna go in with a fresh account and I'm going to show you how long it takes to see something inappropriate for children. Within 10 seconds of starting a fresh account, he saw a penis.

[Donut Operator]

Oh, yeah, yeah, the. Yeah, I know what you're talking.

[JD Delay]

He's got the, the, the kid that Was Penny. And the hair.

[Donut Operator]

The hair.

[JD Delay]

It's not a face, dad. Yeah, yeah. No, but he props to him because he's got over 13 million followers or subs on YouTube and he just gave up what his whole genre is.

[Donut Operator]

Yeah, like, like blew his money right there.

[JD Delay]

Absolutely. I honestly, I think that, like, people that follow him should follow him wherever the he goes and whatever the he does. Just off the integrity of going, you know what? I'm standing with child safety here.

[Eli Double Tap]

That's wild. Also a problem when it's to that degree. That is a massive issue.

[JD Delay]

Well, so last year, the FBI released a study saying that Roblox is the number one child safety issue in the country. But who. Who the has done anything about it since then? Only predator catchers are doing anything about it. And the predator catchers are getting attacked by Roblox and getting sued by them. Yeah, imagine going up and they're a billion dollar. Reuben Sim is just a dude with like 1.1 million on YouTube, bro. And he went up against a $89 billion corporation in court and won. How bad does that have to be for. For you to go up against an $89 billion corporation and all their lawyers and they're like, no, we're siding with him. Like, that's crazy. And no media coverage. Media silence.

[Eli Double Tap]

Zero media, dude.

[Donut Operator]

I just. I just want to see Gladiator return.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, bro. Like, hey, could we get Luigi Mangioni out for just a minute? He just got one last thing to do real quick.

[Donut Operator]

Just want to see those go up against, like, people that have been in there for life. Like lifers go up against those dudes.

[Eli Double Tap]

Yeah, large cats, like lions. This is make it fun.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah, you just have Trump at the very top. Just like.

[JD Delay]

Oh, are you not entertained? You just triggered a lot of people, dog.

[Eli Double Tap]

I think on that note, Cody, we.

[JD Delay]

Can move to the after show.

[Brandon Herrera]

On that note.

[Donut Operator]

Bye, everyone. Thank you for joining the unsubscribe show today. We were joined by Eli Double Tap, JD delay, Brandon Rowe, myself self donut operator. We're going to be on Patreon. We're going to be doing the after show here soon. Where can we find you at JD.

[JD Delay]

You guys can find me. YouTube, JD Delay 5150. Currently banned on my 1.7 million tick tock account. But I have my backup, JD Delay. 1017. It's my eighth band. It's fine. They'll give it back. They're just with me because I won't stop talking about putting some wood chippers. They'll give it back, and they'll ban me again. It'll be fine.

[Brandon Herrera]

Until the next time you threaten the three gorgeous dam. Then they'll. They'll ban you again.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. Yeah. It's just gonna. It's just gonna happen. And hopefully you can find me again on the unsubscribe podcast at some point in the near future.

[Brandon Herrera]

It's a pleasure to have you, man. It's good to actually be on. Be on a show with you.

[JD Delay]

Yeah, man. Absolutely.

[Brandon Herrera]

Yeah.

[JD Delay]

I. I'm really stoked that the four of us got to sit down. This was cool. We did it.

[Eli Double Tap]

We did it.

[JD Delay]

Sorry. We stepped into some heavy topics and everything. I hope it's okay.

[Donut Operator]

We should kill them all.

[JD Delay]

Yeah. That's really what it comes down to, is they all need to die here. Sam.