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A
Man, what the fuck going on?
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B
Audio.
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A
We're in person and we're gonna be honest about something. This was recorded one day before my little hissy.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So, yeah, this was filmed really early a week ago. But we're doing the best we can and we're gonna be honest about it.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. And I appreciate that about us.
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A
Me too.
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B
So therefore, y' all need to appreciate that about us.
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A
And I'm really glad I got that off my chest.
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B
I'm so glad you did. I think it was weighing you down, girl.
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A
And now I'm getting it off my U wrist.
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B
Idiot. So how I even got here? Y' all went to sleep late last night, cuz why? I was watching the crash and that did it for sure. When I'm watching the crash, I'm like, all right, S, you need. You can be watching the crash and start packing your bag. I'm like, nah, not get it. Multitasking.
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A
No, I'm just going to TP's house. It shouldn't be much.
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B
Yeah, I don't need much. I really don't need much. So I don't finish the. The. The documentary. And I also don't start packing. I go get in bed. Cuz you know me, when I'm tired, I'm of use to no one, even myself. So I gotta go lay down.
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A
So I need to, you know yourself, though.
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B
I know myself. And I said, all right, I'm gonna go to sleep. I probably added one too many things on my plate. I told my mom, I said, look, I'mma wake up. My flight's at 9:51, so I'm gonna wake up. We're gonna go to early voting at seven. We're gonna be there at seven. I'll get back home. Daddy will take me to the airport at like 8.
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A
That's what you told me.
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B
So. Yep, yep, yep. So I was like, yeah, we're gonna early vote. No. Woke up at 702, so shout out to 702. First of all, can we get it together where my girl's at? So I immediately start panicking, and when I wake up late, I start doing everything but what I really need to be doing. So I'm kind of just moving from place to place, thinking that I'm accomplishing things, but I'm just taking clothes from here to there and never putting them in the bag.
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A
Also, like, you made sure you folded like a shirt, so you're like, I forgot to put this away. And then you, like, put something away that's your ADD brain.
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B
You can't help it stop.
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A
Because when I started doing dishes, when I'm like, I need to be on a flight in 20 minutes, I'm like, it's so scary. I know.
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B
So I start packing the bag. I'm like, I'm not gonna call the car too soon. Because every time I do that, I'm like, please, I'm coming. Like, give me. Except for that one time that I told y', all I got to that man's car a minute before. He shouldn't have given me any attitude. If you have to wait 10 minutes for a black, then. Not a black as in me before, in Uber black or lip bag, whatever, then wait. By the time I call the car, I'm still not ready on time. It started to rain. I'm on my way to the airport, and I'm on.
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A
I get a phone call from you. I answer the phone. I'm like, hey, what's up? She goes, hey. I mean, hey.
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B
Yep, I'm on my way to the airport.
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A
Running a little late, but you know me, like, yeah, Honestly, I expected this.
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B
Said I'm going to probably be pushing it. I may not make the cutoff for my bag.
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A
Matter of fact. She said, matter of fact.
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B
Excuse me.
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A
Like, you lean clearly away from, like, where the phone mic was so audio. I hope it, like, does sound the same for me like it did for me.
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B
Cindy said, can you actually speed up a little bit?
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A
I'm right.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So I really hope they don't tell you this at the airport, but if you make it by 45, your bag's good. They say it may or may not make it, but, yeah, once they started
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B
telling me that, that it may or may not make it. Baby, I don't give a fuck about that bag. I'm about to be here for a week. If that bag gets here at some point, cool. I just need to be on the flight.
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A
And what really resounded in my head is that you felt that in your heart when you were then telling me the facts. You're running late for the airport now, telling me the guidelines of airports. I'm like, it doesn't. I don't. I'm not getting on the flight today. This is only for you. I get a phone call after she gets the bag checked in.
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B
No, no, no. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
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A
You're happy as a clam.
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B
I made it.
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A
Oh, again. Leans away from the phone.
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B
It's 9:21. It's about 9:21. At this point, I think I remember looking at my phone. It's 9:21. And my plane, it takes off at 9:51. So that means the doors are closing at 36. Okay? So this is the time. This is the time that I have left.
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A
So again, leans away from the phone, like, do you have this in a giraffe? Do you have an eight? I'm like, oh. I'm like. Cindy said, hey, let me get off the phone with you so I'm not late to this flight. She was in the middle of something, me being on the phone. I was just. I was actually put on hold so she could have this.
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B
Y', all. My time management is scary. I was in James Avery.
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A
It's scary that you always make it, though.
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B
Look, I love rings. And I said, you know what? Actually, let me get Marty a ring for her birthday. Because it just caught my eye. I was like, oh, let me go in there and get a ring. I shouldn't have done that. I was pushing it, and I was far from my gate.
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A
That was the ADD Brain.
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B
It was.
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A
Yeah. You're in Houston as well. Like, you probably have to track about 74 gates to make it to be 87.
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B
But I'm here.
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A
You are here. Which when you got here, I get a phone call. Shocked, she landed. I was like, wow. Also, New Orleans. I love you guys. The death of New Orleans Airport. You guys have taken care of me so many times. Not quickly, though. It takes forever for that luggage to come out. We're not JFK. We're not Atlanta. We're not LAX. Where New Orleans is little. It takes about 76 minutes for those bags to come out Anyway, I time it perfectly. I know exactly when I need to leave my house to get to the airport.
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B
You did tell me.
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A
And I pull. I pulled up, you know?
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I'm on the phone with Sid and they're, like, super strict, too. You can't idle or park when you're picking somebody up. They have to be outside waiting on you or you have to loop. You know what? I was going to, like, I told Sid, test out my acting skills. I was like, this is when I like to really like to practice my acting in real life. And this is when you just have to fake it till you make it. So I get out the car, and I pop my hood. I mean, I pop my trunk, and I'm like, yeah, I'm just.
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B
The hood is crazy now. You just start working on your car.
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A
So I change my oil. I pull out the jack. I'm, like, cranking it up. No, I popped my hood truck. I bought my Trunk. And the lady comes up to me. I was like, yeah, my friend's coming out right now. She said, right now? I said, right now. She was like.
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B
And I'm on the phone. I was like, tp, I'm not right now. I can see.
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A
She was like, nobody's back.
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B
Yeah. Like, I'm. It's not here yet.
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A
It's, like, right now. And she was like, all right. And so I look towards the door as if Sid's coming out. Also, I hear nothing going on in my phone. Like, nothing's going on. There's no movement. But I'm confidently staring at the door. And she was like, right now? I was like, any second. She was like, you gotta make a circle. And I was like, come on. She was like, it's just a circle. I was like, oh, I have to tie my shoe. I have on a slip on van. And I go to the curb, and I pretend like I'm about to tie my shoe. This girl busts out laughing. She said, girl, just take a circle.
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B
I said, and I'm listening.
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A
I said, okay. No. She called me baby was the most New Orleans take a circle I've ever heard in my life. Baby, take a circle.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So as I take off of my circle, sis, like, I'm coming out now.
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B
I'm like, who is she? Because I see you pulling off. You like, she got the long hair, she got the shirt and the yellow vest. So the lady's coming in. So I'm getting off the phone. I said, oh. I said, you the one that stopped my friend from waiting for me. You told her she had to make the loop. I said, she was just trying to tie her shoe. She said, yep, that was me. I was like, not. You're proud of it.
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A
Proud of it.
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B
So it was a very funny experience. We got outside, she ended up taking a picture with us because one other person did. She was like, wait, y' all famous? I was like, my answer to that is, if you don't know who I am, then no. I think the way fame works is that, you know, before having to ask
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A
if Cardi B walked through that, you wouldn't have to ask her if she was famous.
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B
But so I made it. We're on time and we're at the pod so take us to the beer song
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C
Unsupervised Unsupervised Unsupervised yeah yes, yes yeah, we say what we want and yeah, we say what we fit Sitting tmp of the mix and they be keeping you real on brand off topic out of pocket. Anything you need, they got it. Why don't you shout when you know they going to block up? When it's game time and you know I'm on blocking. We cover everything like harder than us and yeah, we looking down on haters. Cause they smaller than us and yeah, my flow is so dep. I be coughing it up. You said that we going flat. Well then I'm calling your blood.
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B
Okay, so y' all heard me mention it earlier. We watched the crash. I think a lot of you have. That was nuts. And actually I was like, I don't like watching something called the crash. I was watching on the plane and it like occurred to me. I was like, I don't feel great about this. And we had turbulence.
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A
No.
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B
Yeah. Sometimes when there's turbulence I want to just be like slow down.
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A
Like yeah, I'm like slow down. You're like going a different road.
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B
Switch.
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A
So much open space.
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B
So much. But okay. So for those of y' all that haven't seen the crash, this I think 17 year old girl at the time McKenzie wrecks her car and kills her boyfriend and his friend is suspected to just be an accident.
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A
And because she was also in critical condition immediately following the crash, the other two boys were found deceased. At the scene.
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B
At the scene. So this is the story we're watching. The summary kind of gives, you know, like you already know something. Like there's a twist in this.
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A
And this is two weeks later, you guys, for sure. A week after the fact. You guys have had to have watched
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B
it, but had to have.
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A
This is mind boggling actually.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And also with their ages.
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B
With their ages.
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A
So 17, 20 and 18 and 18
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B
maybe cuz he was two years younger. So let's paint like we can just paint a picture of I think Mackenzie first. Like Mackenzie and Dom, who was her boyfriend. Mackenzie and Dominic were in a relationship since I think they said like freshman year or something like that.
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A
And he was like a junior seniors, a little bit older.
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B
He was a little bit older than her. They were like connected at the hip as far as everybody else described it. They were always together. They had a little bit of a. Not a little bit. They had a toxic relationship, but kind
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A
of like high school definitely towards like the end of their relationship. Seemingly toxic.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And a lot of it was like high school stuff and social media based like just tiffs and they were a
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part of a bigger friend group where everybody hung out with one another all the time. So they could see if there was fighting. They could see, you know, Just what the dynamic was like.
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A
Right.
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Mackenzie herself, one of her friends said that she wanted to be a model. She liked having a social media presence. It looked like she wanted fame and attention very much so. She. She. She would make a lot of, like, post of her outfits. She would smoke weed. Like, she was, like, taking hits of her bong on there.
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A
Yeah. Like, they said that, like, every day she took a different video of, like, a bong hit in her closet or something.
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B
Yeah. So. And that doesn't make her, like, a bad person. She's just a high schooler smoking weed.
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A
But a lot of it, like, what we're trying to, I guess, paint is that everything was kind of performative to the. To the audience, Tailored to the audience. Yeah. Like what was portrayed as cool. I think one of her friends even said, like, they were cool because they were the kids that did drugs or something along those lines. Yeah, they were just the cool kids that did more drugs than you or something.
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B
Yeah, yeah, the stoners. And so it got to a point in their relationship where they started living together. I think she was. After she graduated high school, after she graduated high school. And her parents were completely cool with it, which was odd. They also just. They didn't care that she smoked weed. They don't feel like it's a gateway drug. They didn't feel like it leads to other stuff. Mind you, she was also doing shrooms, so. Yeah, I think that kind of like, debunks their thought right there.
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A
Amount that they had.
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The amount that they had was crazy.
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A
Crazy.
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Like, I don't. I wonder if it's a world where Dom could get her off of their hands. Like, I wonder if she was actually a lot to deal with. And they're like, long as she's out of our house, like, no problem.
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A
But he loves her.
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He loves her. But they were living together when things would get rocky. They were threatening text messages from her to him. She was, like, saying she would make his life hard, she would hurt him
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A
or end his life. Like, just different. Like really aggressive, classic and, like, repetitive things. Like, it was never just one, which
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B
was, to me, wasn't normal for, like, a normal little, like, high school tiff or, like, fight. I don't think people are usually threatening death. I don't think that's normal. Also, when you just look at the girl, I think her eyes certainly hope
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A
that it's not normal. Yeah, her eyes are.
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B
You gotta look at people's eyes. Some people's eyes don't have a lot going on behind them. And she had a little bit of a look to her. I think it was also kind of clear. They talked about her being super healthy and stuff. It looked like she was probably suffering from an eating disorder.
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A
Certainly suffering from an eating disorder. Certainly found her, found her confidence and image. And also just seemingly you could just tell that she had her parents wrapped around her fingers and she could pretty much do anything she wanted. And her parents even went on the record stating that they felt like she was mature enough. They use the word mature enough to describe when she moved in with her boyfriend. And also I guess you have to be mature enough to do these other things that they were allowing as well.
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B
Yeah.
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But I'm not looking at a child that was even mature enough to be doing lesser things than what she was allowed to do.
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And they said she was hell at school. She would talk crazy to teachers and anybody in a position of authority when
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she was fighting for her life.
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B
Yeah.
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A
They put it on Facebook and people were slamming her or something on social.
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B
Yeah.
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When it came to these topics and I'm like, you have to really do something awful for you to be fighting for your life. And people are like, best wishes, hope to see you come out. What if you're saying anything?
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B
I don't even think they were saying.
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A
No, they weren't. They were like, she's the worst. Yeah, she's. They were like, yeah, she should like wishing it on her. I'm like, this is, this is you. You must have done something really, really bad. This is what the response to you being in critical condition is. Goodness gracious.
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People are like showing up to the hospital just to like bend down and be like, I genuinely do hope you die. Yeah, it would be better. Like that's you've done wishing for your life. You, you had to have done some crazy stuff.
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A
But also the videos that she was showing of herself, like the self filmed videos are actually really.
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B
Yeah. Okay, so let's get to the crash. So the crash happens. What we we find out in the documentary that there's a thing called a black box in a car.
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A
Who knew? Show of hands if you knew.
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B
Right. You know about like in a plane.
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A
Yeah. Certainly you hear about that.
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B
I didn't know about it in cars.
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A
Me neither.
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B
She was pushing a hundred down this stretch of road.
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A
It also seemed like residential area. Not like back road or highway. Residential areas.
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B
Residential. And it's not a straight, it's not a straight shot. It curves a little bit. Yeah. So she's going 100. And what they said in the black box for the live last five seconds before the crash, you can see that she was consistently putting 100% of pressure
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A
on the gas and going 100 and no break. Either said yes or no. It wasn't even like, percentage of breaking. It was, did you touch the brake or not? And there was no no, no, no, no for every second of the last five seconds of this black box.
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B
So her and Dom. Dom had threatened to leave her before this happened. She told him she would end his life, like, two weeks prior. When they're on this stretch, the black box can also tell you that the gear move from drive to neutral, back to drive without her ever taking her foot off the gas. The explanation by the. The defense attorney and her. Her parents was that she suffers from something called pots, which is not related to weed, you would think, but it's just something that makes her black out times. And they were saying she could have had an incident where she blacked out. And people were like, well, how would Dominic's sister. Dominic's sister was like, well, how would that make sense? And she was still applying a hundred percent of force.
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A
Like, maybe she blacked out and caught a cramp. The terrible joke people done. But there's no way to really explain it.
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B
No, they got me. People did. So rest in peace to Dominic. No. And Davion.
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A
Davion.
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B
So she also, like I said, it was a winding road. So she blacked out, but also was able to steer.
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A
Right. Like you stayed on the trajectory of
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B
the road that whole time. That whole time. That doesn't make sense. So they're looking at the black box. They're trying to give an explanation. They crash into the wall. So once, once cops got to the scene of the accident, they saw that there was, I think, marijuana in the car. There were shrooms in the car.
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A
In her purse.
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B
In her purse. But it showed that she didn't have alcohol in her system.
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A
She didn't have psychedelics.
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B
Psychedelics in her system.
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A
There was weed, but also there's numerous videos that they actually showed within the documentary. And I'm sure there's more that show her smoking under the influence of marijuana, which wouldn't now make that something that would make her severely impaired driving because it's something that she was shown to clearly be doing very often.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
And some of those blunts, whatever that was, it looked like a whole, like person.
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B
It was fat. A doobie. Your mom. Ew. They were huge, though. So, yeah, like, she clearly had driven under the influence before. So why did she just crash all of A sudden. So in the courtroom, she or her mom, like, reads a. A statement. And mind you, earlier in the episode,
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before we move on to the courtroom.
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B
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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A
At the crash, when the cops show up. I don't know. It doesn't. It isn't clear if somebody called. They called the cops to the scene or if they just saw it. But the guy. The cop has the body cam on.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And you hear him say, like, oh, yeah. And then he gets out and he says, this is the worst car crash I've ever seen in my entire life. And the way that they were also in the car and the way that that car looked.
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B
Mm. You wouldn't think anybody survived.
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A
You wouldn't also think that somebody was willing or capable of driving yourself to do that.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But the majority of the impact was on the passenger side. The driver's side did not look good by any means.
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B
Right.
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By any.
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B
Look like the passenger side.
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A
But the passenger side was unrecognizable to be a car to me.
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B
Yeah.
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A
It really was.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Outside of there being seats there, that did not look like. Car looked like shredded metal.
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B
The mom in the courtroom was. She was pleading for a lesser. For there to be mercy on her daughter. You know, on the sentence. She's like. You know, she doesn't even probably understand emotionally and physically, like, how changed she's gonna be. Like, this has done so much to her. And the judge was like, all I hear you talking about is your daughter. You haven't said anything about the two. Two boys who are now dead. And she was like, no, well, Dom, I just. You know, I want for her to just be able to not spend the rest of her life thinking about this and. And. And David or Demerius Demetri.
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A
He's a new friend.
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B
Sorry. He's a new friend. I don't know what's his name. And she kind of, like, turned to look at the. I'm. I'm so sorry. And so the judge was just, like, disgusted, like the rest of us watching, because it makes perfect sense where the daughter gets her selfishness from. Because how you could even fix your mouth to get up there. I understand how a parent can ask for a lesser sentence. Let's say they really don't know if their daughter did this intentionally.
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Yeah.
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You don't want to believe that as a parent. So I am asking. Look, she made a terrible, terrible mistake. She doesn't need to spend the rest of her life in jail. But to spend all the time talking
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A
about her and not recognizing why they're even on trial in the first place.
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B
Because then you have what Mackenzie stood up and said to the court. Now usually when people address the court, I'm thinking, listen, if I kill somebody on accident, people believe his accident. I'm on trial, cuz it's an accident. That will be the best performance that I ever put on for an apology for sure. You're not able to maybe do that if you're so selfish and out of touch with the consequences of your actions. Because that girl got up there and gave four lines. Sorry. She made her hands start shaking. She said, I am so sorry. I. You could just see her constantly trying to force tears all the time. And I was like, this is such caring behavior. Like this is such. What are like the crocodile tears? Cut it off.
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A
Karen and training. Yeah.
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B
Like how, how you don't take time, take most of that time to address the fact that I'm remorseful for killing,
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A
for taking away two young lives. What.
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B
Whether I mean it or not, I'm trying to.
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A
You knew that you dated one and friends with the other one.
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B
But I think you could see in the messages that were exchanged between them and what people said. She talked to him in a very reckless way. I don't remember if it was sound from one of the videos or something somebody said, but he. Dom may have sold drugs. It appears so. He had bank or maybe his family did, but like they all had drugs and whatever. So he had money, he would buy her, you know, designer stuff, expensive stuff. And during one of the, one of the arguments she had told him to like, like, you know, shut the up and buy me something like, something like that. You don't talk like that to a person that you love, you care about. And there were multiple instances throughout the show of her talking crazy to him. Even his friend that came in and said, you know, she would be pretty abusive.
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A
Yeah. And don't want to like leave. Leave her for a while. According to like his friends. And also this wasn't a girl that just had this track record of like not even being neutral. Like she had a negative track record.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And she's coming into court. And also like I don't understand how even a part of her in this apology doesn't speak to the people that have dealt with the most loss. How do you not address the parents, the people you dated this guy for three, four years, whatever it was. And you've been friends with Dom for however long you've been in high school with him for, and you don't directly talk to them. And tell them how sorry. Because at the end of the day, you lost something and you were involved in something that you created. But also there was loss that they had no idea. The dom texted his dad at like, 2:53am saying, Love you, dad.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And he didn't know that was gonna be the last text message he received from his son.
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B
But I think you're expecting. You're expecting, or people might be emotion and remorse from a person that's incapable of feeling it. Because. Go ahead.
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A
Because I'm. Yeah, I am expecting that. I'm expecting that. But we're dealing with somebody that doesn't encompass that. So what I'm expecting is at least you fake that. If you don't want to be in jail that bad, you can't even acknowledge anyone else other than yourself.
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B
I think that's how deep the selfishness in sociopathic or psychopathic behavior is. I don't think that this girl has a lens to. Just like, we saw she wanted to be popular. Her friend had a ton of, like, social media followers. I think she had a couple thousand she was trying to model. Oh, how do we forget?
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A
Wait, hold on. Before we get to this. The girl. The way that her and this girl met.
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B
Yeah.
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A
The friend described it as this. She said, you're cute. And I'm like, you're cute. And she's like, now we're friends. That shouldn't be the premise of a friendship.
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B
I can't stand bitches like that. I don't like to call women bitches, but I hate bird bitches like that.
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A
Oh, God.
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B
What? Zero foundation on a relationship at all. And y' all are surprised when the friends.
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A
My favorite color jello.
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B
That's better than cuteness. I mean, I guess. I don't know. But the post, the girl. The girl had one of those, like, spam pages that if you post something here in New Orleans or I posted in Houston, a Houston. Houston follows page will be like, hey, I love this post. Can I use this? Nobody usually answers those two days after the accident. The girl's mom has now responded to this company. Oh, Such and Such has been trying to reach out. She would love to be featured. Blah, blah, blah.
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A
It would be such a good opportunity.
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B
It would be such a good opportunity. Thanks. Then Mackenzie, the girl follows up, like, responds to that as well. And it's like, oh, I've been so excited to hear from y' all and work with y'. All. Like, very excited for the opportunity and for your support. How insane do you and your mother have to Be. To be. To even be online. If I accidentally kill someone, I probably would just become a hermit.
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A
You would never see me again. You would never, ever.
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B
The guilt, especially when it's an accident. I think the guilt would be so tremendous that I would try to move on with my life, but it would be very. It would be difficult.
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A
I'm very. I'm very fortunate that I don't have to experience what that would feel like.
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B
I never have to feel the same.
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A
Same.
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B
But this goes to also the mom's state of mind and how this girl is raised. So I don't. The apple don't fall far from the tree, because that was nuts. But then we get to Mackenzie in prison. So about 45 minutes, maybe, like, halfway through the dock. Mackenzie, who was a white girl, a white suburban girl, has now morphed into a bone Queeque type chola with a black scent. So she's mixing so many different things, but I'm like, okay, where did the. Where did the. She got a spray tan or something? First of all, you got a side. Bang.
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A
That gel down. Bang.
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B
With a high bun. You're talking like you hadn't been talking for the show. And y'. All. The girl turns. You can see her forcing tears once again throughout this conversation. And she keeps mentioning, like, you know, I just wanted to be, you know, clear that there was no intent. Like, everything was accidental. She turned and, like, looked to her lawyer who was on the side. She was like, was that good?
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A
Am I good?
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B
Am I good? What? I just want to make sure nothing looks. I don't want anything to view. Like, I don't want to be seen in a bad light, basically.
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A
I don't want to do too much.
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B
I don't want to do too much. You need to do more, and you
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A
need to be more to reconcile.
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B
This girl, she's nuts. But she got, what, 30 to life?
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A
Fifteen. Yeah.
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B
Two.
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A
Two sentences of 15 to, like, current citizen in her first. In her first appeal has been declined. But Davion's dad was, like, speaking throughout this whole process, and I didn't know how I felt about the dad at first. Especially at first when you don't know what the story is going to be.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Then the dad comes through more and more, and he was just hitting with some, like, real points. He's like, if this girl doesn't come to her senses, if this girl keeps getting babied by her parents for the next 35 years, her psyche is going to be so twisted because they just keep saying, like, oh, you didn't do anything wrong. You don't have to take accountability for anything. This, this and that. No, you need to come to your senses and what you did and also take some accountability. And maybe also if you want to get out of jail so bad, these are the things that we need to see from you. You don't need to keep pleading that you didn't do anything. If anything, that makes us hate you a lot more than if you were to be like, I really messed up. I am sorry. This is what happened. And I'm looking to make it right now that you can. Not that anybody would accept you more, but at least we, like. I don't know.
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B
I just think that she's incapable. The parents are not capable. Because they said earlier in the show when they were talking about the drugs and other stuff, they were like, he said, you know, am I the best parent? No. Like, they'll make some mistakes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'd say depending, like, you know, like, with the evidence of the child that you raised and what. How she behaves and what she does, and not just in this incident that got her the doc, but everything else that we learned about her behavior at school and towards other people, she sounds like an absolute piece of shit. So I don't think that she just became that out of nowhere. It looks like based on what we saw out of y' all in this, y' all are not good people either. So there's no way that in those 30 years, she probably don't respect y'.
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C
All.
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B
So y' all aren't going to be able to be the ones that go into prison and try to make her see her wrong. Y' all don't even see the wrong.
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A
But she's definitely counting you guys for commissary.
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B
Right?
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A
Like, y' all will be forever filling that up.
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B
She'll have money, they'll have money, her books, forever. But yeah, if y' all haven't watched
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A
this, like, check it out also. And we're. The show came out, what, two days ago?
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B
Yeah. Or something. Something like that.
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A
Something like that. MacKenzie's father was just placed on paid leave.
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B
Oh, I bet. Yeah.
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A
I bet this following this documentary, cuz he's, I guess, a school teacher.
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B
This has got to be. Yeah. A crazy amount of attention. Attention and not. Not good attention, I would imagine. And I wonder if they still live in the same place, but
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A
wild, wild situation.
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B
Oh, is there. Her dad was wearing a boom shirt to discuss a fatal crash. That's absolutely nuts. I didn't even read.
- [32:42]
A
Yeah, the Lack of awareness. The lack of awareness that this family has for the losses that were had is disgusting.
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B
I don't even want. I would say lack of care. I just don't think that. I don't think that you care. So they're stupid. So let's make sure that we're not stupid. CP we're gonna do a little brain exercise. Okay. I need it.
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A
After that.
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B
No facts. I got it offline. So this lady, her name's Dr. Ren on social media, and she does like these brain challenges to just help your Help you stimulate your brain. Because we just people. We scroll so much. We don't do a lot. So.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So I'm gonna do this challenge with you. Okay. And what it works on. Okay. So you gotta quickly switch between categories without slowing down. So try to keep up the pace. I'm giving you like five seconds between each one.
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A
Okay?
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B
Okay. So you got a name and babysitters. Feel free to do this.
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A
Yeah. Play along. Actually, I don't want to do this by myself.
- [33:48]
B
All right. Okay. Name five car brands.
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A
Toyota, Lexus, Ford, mitSubishi, Ferrari.
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B
Okay. Five things you wear.
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A
Hat, T shirt, shorts, underwear, tennis shoes.
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B
Five cities.
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A
New Orleans, Atlanta, Houston, Louisiana. New York City.
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B
Five things that are cold.
- [34:16]
A
Trump. Trump's legs. Antarctica. Snowballs. Ice cubes.
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B
You only have my brain, but you're an idiot. So hopefully y' all have fun with that. She just has, like, a bunch of those on her page, and so I'm gonna just start coming at you with them. But what she said is that this works on. This is working. Processing speed, attention, memory recall, and cognitive flexibility.
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A
Hey, so don't hit him with that. Yeah, because I killed that. I did really well.
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B
You did do well.
- [34:50]
A
You said I got four on the last one and we're have to count that back.
- [34:53]
B
Yeah, they can count it on screen because I was so. I was too caught up. I can't multitask.
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A
Trumpet. Trump's legs were two separate ones.
- [34:58]
B
Sure. I'll give you that.
- [34:59]
A
Those things look cool because it's hard. Stop pumping all the way down there. Those things look stagnant, man. Those things look like they've been just sitting that. That blood hasn't circulated in years. It looks like it's just down there. Sorry about that. Back to other unfortunate news. So in the hell we're hitting that in the headlines, y'.
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B
All.
- [35:22]
A
We also need to come clean about something else.
- [35:24]
B
Yeah.
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A
We've called this segment so many different things. So comment below what you prefer best. It's been called off the bench. Trending headlines in the headlines. Off of the bench. This is the bench, and we're getting off of it. But anyway, in the headlines, we have Waymo.
- [35:49]
B
Yeah.
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A
First of all, the first time I ever saw this, I took a trip to Vegas recently, and there were cars that looked like a bug. Like a bug. Stink bugs. Do you know what a stink bug looks like? If a stink bug had wheels, it looked like that. And these things were just, like, driving around, I'm like, whoa. I look inside, there's nothing in there. I was like, whoa, what is that? Okay. So then I'm like, this seems not safe. This is the first time I ever saw this off rip. I'm like, terrible idea. Who's driving this? Okay, so here we are.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And there's been a lot of way mo's in the news lately, and way
- [36:29]
B
more than they should be.
- [36:36]
A
Shit, you're funny. So there is a. There's a neighborhood in Atlanta that has been recently dealing with a bunch of Waymos.
- [36:49]
B
Atl. Ho Atl. Ho Atl. Hoe Atl. Ho Atl. Ho Atl dot Ho Atl. Ho Atl. Okay, go ahead. That's not even a song.
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A
Also, we're also just gonna put out there that we're not searching for a Waymo sponsorship with this. Certainly not. So there's a residential neighborhood in Atlanta that have been dealing with a Waymo issue. There's just been random wayos with zero people in the car. Keep in mind, no one's driving it. And also, there's no passengers that purchase this Waymo to use as a service. Yeah, they're just circulating in these Atlanta neighborhoods that just so happens to be a majority black neighborhood.
- [37:45]
B
Yeah.
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A
And the residents of the neighborhood have been complaining about this for a while, and nothing's been done about this. So they started to put out different cones and, like, just different things to make the waymos deter their route into their neighborhood. And what that has done is actually caused the waymos to get stuck within themselves. And if you pull up the video online, there's probably about 15 to 20 waymos within a. I would say like a 50 by 50 box. Like 50 by 50 by 50 by 50 box. There's about 15 to 20 waymos just stuck looking dumb, just being way more done than they have to be done. And what that has done is actually drawn warm it way more. Drawn more waymos to the area.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it just kind of like, why is this happening here? Yeah, what's the deal? Because I'm like, when are we gonna have, like, a Major issue like this in a wealthy, white elite neighborhood. Because Lord knows we would definitely have heard about it by now if they were dealing with a waymo issue. Because we hear about issues that nobody actually cares about that they need done. Like, we just hear about like, oh, my God, mine. My cat didn't get their pedicure this weekend.
- [39:02]
B
No, it's. It's actually very frightening. It's like similar to. Did you ever see Leave the World Behind?
- [39:10]
A
No.
- [39:11]
B
Okay. So it was executive produced by the Obamas. And so people speculated like, okay, are they trying to tell us something with making a movie like this? Because while other presidents were like EPN
- [39:24]
A
films or shows and what a great place to get content.
- [39:31]
B
So Leave the World Behind. They had a scene in that movie where a bunch of Teslas were just crashing into each other. Like, the cars were just doing their own thing and all of them were crashing in the same. In this same area. And so when I saw this, I was like, okay, this looks awfully familiar. And what I picture, I'm like, all right, if these are self driving car, they're not self driving. Somebody is somewhere controlling this. So I'm just like, okay. Or some are people like having sex on a motherboard and they're just like pressing a bunch of stuff and making the car. You're yelling. You think so too?
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A
I don't know. Because I'm like, after the Pokemon Go scandal, I'm like, who knows what's going on? So Pokemon Go was created from a company that just wanted to geo map everything. And boy, did they. People lost their lives trying to catch Pokemon. Yeah, that was in this app. And what they did was actually like, place like more desired Pokemon or like harder to get Pokemon like rare in places that like they've never seen before. So, like, if no one's ever been the inside of my house, they would place like the most extravagant Pokemon in that place.
- [40:49]
B
Yeah.
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A
And so people would. But this was happening on like the top of cliffs online. And so people were using their lives for them to get geo mapping. Come to find out, they have so much geo mapping by people just playing a game. They didn't tell you what the objective of the app was. They just. They just made a surface level game for you and you did the rest of the work for them for free, actually. And some of you guys probably actually spend money to get extra pokeballs or like whatever the situation was that goes on within the app.
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B
Well, that, that's like similar to. Okay, I saw this video and this girl was talking about how like us living in a surveillance state is not necessarily just top down. It's not just Big Brother watching everything that is part of it. But with social media, with our phones, with the drones that people fly with these automated like. No, not the automated vehicle vehicles with the things that we control. We film, we film strangers in public.
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A
Right.
- [41:47]
B
We show everywhere we are, we're filming our house. People are giving tours of their homes on the inside. They don't have to do the work anymore because we film everything. So it's gotten to the point where it's not top down. We're giving them all the data and the information that they need to successfully know everywhere you are, what you have going on, what the inside of your house looks like. It's like it should be way more concerning to people. And honestly, if one of those self driving like food delivery vehicles ever walks by me again, I'm gonna kick the out of it. I'm just start being rude as to AI.
- [42:29]
A
Just lay in front of it and like run it. Let it run you over. Just take a picture as it's doing it.
- [42:35]
B
No, people have to start treating AI like I think like start definitely.
- [42:39]
A
No, I was just saying that so we could sue them for hurting you.
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B
Thank you.
- [42:42]
A
Yeah, you're welcome.
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B
Thank you so much. But that, that, that scene definitely reminded me of that. But there was another way mo incident they had. There were three lanes on like it wasn't a hop on a road in Atlanta, so three lanes at the stoplight. But the light has turned green several times because these way mo's are just stuck. And there are people. I don't know if there are people in all three of them, but definitely in the lane that's closest to the person filming. And they turn to show the length of the road and it's like, like I said, it's like five football fields or traffic.
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A
Of traffic or parking lot actually.
- [43:21]
B
Yeah. And they're like the ability to get this many people into like a small area like this. It should.
- [43:29]
A
It's very scary.
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B
It's very scary. If they just decided at some point that they were going to have cars just block a road and trap people in.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You don't know what kind of situation,
- [43:40]
A
if anything were to happen in that area.
- [43:42]
B
Yeah.
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C
Whoa.
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B
Yeah. So that video was scary. And there have been so many other ones. There was like one of the food delivery, one delivery ones going into this area like in the hood and black people were like, you know, the. Is this like what you doing over here?
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A
What is Wally doing Over here.
- [43:59]
B
What are you doing over here? But surveillance. Y' all want to get in these places, People, already we already know how they've surveilled black neighborhoods and areas over the years since America's been able to do so. They've been doing it. Which takes us to our next announcement. Y', all, our team and us, we've decided it's time for the babysitters to have a talent show.
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A
Yeah, we need it.
- [44:37]
B
It's time for a talent show, y'. All. We want to see how funny you are, how good you are, whatever you can do.
- [44:43]
A
Like if there were a talent, hypothetically
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B
speaking, if there were a talent. So we want y' all to let us know if we happen to host the talent show summer camp edition in New York sometime in July, would y' all show up to show us your hidden talents? Or maybe not so hidden. If you would, what is that talent? Let us know what you would do. We feel like this can be so fun. Like some of y' all are so just like funny in, in the comments and in person.
- [45:19]
A
Meet the meet and greets and in person.
- [45:21]
B
And we've got such a diverse demographic of listeners and a diverse. What it does. Races, gender, age. There's just so much. We got a full spectrum and we love it. Of everything. And we. And we do love it. So, yeah, if that's something that y' all would be down to attend, please let us know.
- [45:44]
A
Please.
- [45:44]
B
We wanna. We wanna make this happen. We want to make this happen. And we want, you know, y' all to have fun and there will be a cool prize. So.
- [45:55]
A
Yeah, I mean, I would do it.
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B
Then do it.
- [45:59]
A
I have to think of what I would do though.
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B
Okay.
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A
I'm not going to tell you right now, cuz I don't want everyone to take mine.
- [46:04]
B
Okay. I'll probably do. Maybe I would do like a stand up set. Just do like a.
- [46:10]
A
What if we open stand up?
- [46:12]
B
Okay. We could.
- [46:13]
A
Would y' all show up to watch that though?
- [46:15]
B
They're like, yeah. I mean, that's kind of just like watching the pod.
- [46:18]
A
Yeah. We show up every week to listen to you guys ramble.
- [46:26]
B
Right? No, for real.
- [46:27]
A
Well, looky there.
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B
We're all on time.
- [46:31]
A
It is tempered down in the dm. It go down. It go down in the dm. It go down, it go. This DM is not sponsored by Waymo.
- [46:49]
B
Oh my gosh. All right. We got a DM from Alaska. It says, hey, Sid, I'm 10 months post ACL up. What are the biggest things? Absolutely. What are the biggest things you've learned through your journey? And would you do it again if you got a choice on that point with tp? Would you go through your medical issues again if you got a choice? Another point. I'm Australian. Would y' all ever consider coming out and playing in the wnbl? I love this show. Big fan. That's hilarious, because we actually have mentioned. Right. Oi, oi, oi.
- [47:28]
A
Yeah, we love Australia. Or we want to go. We don't. We've never been, but we love the idea of Australia.
- [47:33]
B
Yeah. I want to go to Sydney, obviously.
- [47:35]
A
Yeah.
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B
I used to love seeing my name, like, in books, when they had, like, at the bottom, like, all the. All the, like, major cities are, like, a big deal. Young. Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah. Okay. So to answer your question, Alaska. I. No, I don't. I wouldn't go through it again. Like, I wouldn't want to tear my eco.
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A
Yeah.
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B
What I have learned since going through it, though, and what. What has come of it, like, whether it was through the recovery process, through having more time at home, like, because I wasn't picked up by a team, like, I am grateful for where it has me. And I always believe that, like, wherever you are in your journey is where you're supposed to be, whether it seems good or bad to you. It might be a struggle season. It might, you know, might be a time to, like, be dormant. And for me, with our job, like, it's a very public job. Go to work, people. Thousands of people are seeing you even more if it's a televised game. The WNBA is bigger now. It's just like a very in your face kind of job. I've enjoyed just, you know, actually being home, chilling, not being involved in nothing, not having to manage the things we gotta manage during the season. I'm like, yes, good. I needed this time. So I think for me, I would just tell you to, you know, work hard to get your body back. Right. But also appreciate where you are in your journey. And don't look at anything as a negative, even if it feels like a negative. Understand that it's producing something in you.
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A
Yeah. Just be mindful of your growth. Like, I wouldn't want to go through this again. And luckily, I don't have to. I'm having a little hissies, so this is the last day I'll ever be on my period again.
- [49:34]
B
Yeah. What if you got your uterus taken out and then next week you had a uterus again? How scared would you be?
- [49:39]
A
I'd be like, oh, My God.
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B
That's it.
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A
Like, not this again. But I will say that, like, kind of like to piggyback off of Sid. Whenever you go through something
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B
that's.
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A
That's tough in your life, whenever you deal with some kind of adversity, you really want to note all the things that you feel, because the growth that you feel, the next time something like this crosses your plate, you'll see how far you've come from this moment. And not everything, not all growth is physical. Not all growth is what you can do on the basketball court. What I've taken from my injuries, a lot of it was mental. A lot of it was learning how to love myself better, learning how to care for myself better, both mentally and physically, and getting to a place where, you know, I wouldn't want to go back. But I'm happy that it happened, and I'm happy that I experienced this experience so that I'm on the other side of it.
- [50:39]
B
Yeah.
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A
Because if you don't have a life with struggle, if you don't know what it feels like to have to take a step back, you don't know really what it feels like to be on the other side of that. And I think that is the greatest thing that can come from adversity, is to know that you made it to the other side of that finally.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And Alaska, you being 10 months out of surgery is so awesome. I said, and I both continue your prayed and full recovery.
- [51:02]
B
Yeah.
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A
And we want. We want to see you back on the court. We're excited to see. Please let us know, you know, what this looks like for you in the future, and we'd like to keep up with, you know, your progress, but huge congrats to you for. For getting this far.
- [51:16]
B
Keep it up.
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A
Also, we do love Australia. Just tapping back into that. We are.
- [51:21]
B
I don't know that I love it, but I want to go.
- [51:23]
A
Yeah. No, we haven't been there, so we can't fairly say.
- [51:25]
B
Yeah, they got to. They got to make sure they treating indigenous people right.
- [51:29]
A
Right.
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B
So I don't want to go there and have to slap the piss out of nobody, you know?
- [51:34]
A
Yeah. I wonder what they're saying about us.
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B
Facts. They're like, aren't you from America?
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A
Yeah. Coming from you guys.
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B
A blueprint. But tp so nice to be with you in person. My dog.
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A
And don't worry, you guys, when you're listening to this episode, I will be in recovery and hopefully in a much better place than where I am today.
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B
You will be in a better place.
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A
I will be. We're gonna speak it up.
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B
Well, we love y' all babysitters. We hope you enjoyed the episode. Hope you enjoyed the brain exercises.
- [52:09]
A
Yeah, thank you for that.
- [52:11]
B
And we look forward to, you know, next episode. But in the meantime, y' all know what to do. If you got any problems you want to tell us about. If you need some advice, you want to give us some, because Lord knows we probably need it, then just DM us at unsupervised tp. Oh, no. Then just DM us at unsupervised.
- [52:33]
A
You love me.
- [52:35]
B
Actually, I got it wrong again. Just DM us at unsupervised ctp.
- [52:40]
A
What did you say the second time?
- [52:41]
B
I said unsupervised tp, I think the first time. And then unsupervised sit in tp and then eventually unsupervised sit tp.
- [52:51]
A
Nice.
- [52:52]
B
Thank you.
- [52:52]
A
Never give up. And as always, you guys, don't forget to throw kindness around my Kim.
- [52:58]
B
Betty.
- [52:59]
A
Until next time.
- [53:00]
B
You said confetti. That's what you get. Confetti. Good. Betty.
- [53:24]
C
We say what we want and yeah, we say what we feel Sitting tmp in a mix and they be keeping it real on brand, off topic, out of pocket anything you need, they got it why don't you shout when you know they going to block it? When it's game time then you know who block it but cover everything like who harder than us and yeah we looking down on haters cuz they smaller than us and yeah my flow is so damn sick I be coughing it up. You said that we going flat well then I'm calling your blood unsupervised. Unsupervised. Unsupervised.
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B
Sam.